Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 314: Doug Benson

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Andy Frasco is BACK from his various cruise obligations and high sea follies (hard life, I know) and ready to motivate YOU. Does he have stories that'll make your head spin? Duh. Is the band touring again soon? You betcha. But does he even miss his life back in Denver with his best friend & co-host, Nick?! Well, dear listener, tune in and find out... But most importantly, on the Interview Hour we welcome comedian extraordinaire, Doug Benson! Doug is a legend in so many pockets of entertainment: podcasting, stand up comedy, television, and of course: getting high. Teach us your ways, oh wise sage of bespoke stoner humor...  Now you can see these rock n' roll ding-dongs in color, should you choose to watch this episode *exclusively* on Volume.com We're psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us who you think the essential American rock band is today: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Nick Gerlach, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Mara Davis

Alright, and we're live. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. Hey, guys. It feels like I haven't talked to you guys in a long time. How's your heads? How's your minds? Are you feeling good?

Are you doing things? Not because you have to, but because you want to. That's the hardest part about just living you know and you know I know you're gonna say oh sometimes you don't have a choice for Asko you don't have a choice of course you don't have a choice but there's sometimes where you're gonna get that one minute or even like an hour or even like 30 minutes where you get some time to yourself and you realize you know I should take advantage of this time and

truly ask myself what do I want to do at this time. I'll take a deep breath and find that right now even if you're driving in your car even if you're listening to this on the subway or just on a long drive or just during work so you're distracting yourself from whatever shitty situation you're in. Just take a second and ask yourself, when you do have that little moment of time, what do you want to do with it?

Yeah, we forget to ask ourselves that. That's why I'm in Miami, baby. Let's go. Woo! I skipped my flight. I got a hotel for five days. I've been Miami, baby. Let's go. I skipped my flight. I got a hotel for five days. I've been eating good food. I've been I'm into watches now.

I'll tell you the whole story. I took some time off. I'm like, fuck, I'm going to go back to Denver. I go back to fucking work. My my manager is going to throw me on every interview and throw me on all this stuff I have to do to promote the record and I just wasn't. My mind was not there yet to to just like give another day. So I said fuck it. I'm going to take four days

off. I'm downtown Miami. I fucking love it here. Miami is not a real place. This is not a real place. I've seen the craziest shit here. First of all, Miami's way cooler than I thought it'd be. I'm going to give it that. I thought this place was going to be a fucking shithole, an overpriced shithole, but it actually has a lot of character, it's got a lot of different pockets,

and it's got a really great metropolitan city, and I'm really impressed with it. So shout out to Miami, but you know, going back to what I was first saying. By the way, we have Doug Benson, comedian Doug Benson. We brode out on the 311 cruise. We'll talk a little more about that. I'm going to keep this one short,

but if Doug Benson's on the show, you're going to love him. Comedian, you might know him from that documentary, Super High Me. Great podcast, Getting Doug with High, Super High Me. Great podcast, getting Doug with high and he does a movie podcast, but he's just a great comedian and we broed out a lot. But getting back to what I said, you got to listen to yourself. When you need a break, take a break. When you need some time for yourself, go for a walk. I'm not saying do anything extravian like fly to Miami.

for a walk, I'm not saying do anything extravian like fly to Miami. All I'm saying is listen to your gut, you know, this is a marathon, not a race. This life thing, you know, we don't have a lot of time with it, so if we're just gonna keep working and working and working, we might as well, those little times where we could just go fucking sit at the park, go fucking hang out at the fucking to the library go read a book fuck it who cares go fuck whatever you like porn go beat off go go home and go jerk one out whatever whatever you have time for whatever a way for you to have some me time definitely do it because at the end of day we always just give so much to everyone every day we're're just giving giving giving

You know I was on a six week tour Playing every single day just given giving giving all my energy all my love and not saying I'm like not Fortune enough to do that I am but sometimes when you give too much and you give give give you have to save a little for yourself Hence why I'm in Miami I was supposed to fly to Denver and realized a fuck it. I'm already on the east coast. We're playing a Rhode Island this weekend, pot tuck it. People tell me pot tuck it is like there's like hippie this fuck it. Everyone's like, oh my God, you're

playing pot tuck it. That's like the work like work central of Rhode Island. I'm like, I don't, I don't believe it, but I'll let you know next week how crazy it was. But I thought I'd give myself some me time. We all need to do it. Denver is a lot for me. And flying straight back to Denver and going into the riff raff of trying to connect with everyone

and going to everyone's shows and whatnot, I just needed another couple days. So I apologize, Dinder, if I bailed, any of my friends I bailed on this week. I love you very much, but I'm trying to think of myself as well. You know, that's hard to do. Like I said before, it is hard, very fucking hard

to do things for yourself. And we have to take initiative and actually do it because life will keep on making you busy for other people's bullshit and other people's bullshit until you have to say, not today. Even though I love to give, even though we love to give love, and even though we love, you know,

you listen to this podcast because you are a giver and you give love a lot like I do and we're all in this together of giving love. But sometimes you gotta say, not today. You're not draining my energy for a little bit more so I can recharge it because you can't, you can't fill up a cup that's already empty. And if you're feeling empty,

figure out a way to refill that cup. It could be fucking knitting. It could be fucking whatever. It could be fucking whatever. It doesn't matter what. Whatever makes you happy. Like I've been having this fucking, I've had this like three week ear infection. My ear smells like a dog.

It smells so bad. And I'm like, I'm just like fucking just grinding it out and I can't go to an urgent care and go to a doctor because I'm just always moving to the next city and I finally said, nope, I'm stopping everything. I'm going to take care of this year. So shout out to Miami doctors for fixing my ear. Baby, they got me on antibiotics, got me some drops, so I don't fucking smell like a dog. I feel do where I'm going to these like nice ass

restaurants. We went to I'm like fuck. I'm going to treat myself. I'm making some money now and I'm like, I'm going to go do it. I'm going to go into these nice ass restaurants. We went to, I'm like fuck it, I'm going to treat myself. I'm making some money now, and I'm like, I'm going to go do it. I'm going to go to Stone, we went to Joe's Stone Crab, and we went to South Beach, and I'm like dressing up, dressing up all nicely and stuff. And I just feel, you know, I'm eating food.

Some nights I'm doing it by myself, and then sometimes I'm meeting up with people, and'm just trying to treat myself and then the waiter, I could tell when the waiter starts smelling my ear, I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, so I'm so sorry it's an ear infection, but I got it figured out. But that was hard. Man, it was smelling for a couple weeks. Anyway, shout out to the 311 crews for putting up with my smelly ass ear for, for six days. Cause I couldn't even get it to a doctor then, you know, it's like, I tried to get to the doctor on the boat, but they have weird hours and I was,

you know, as like any boat, any festival on a boat, I'm on weird hours too. I'm seeing the morning more than I'm seeing the daytime. That was such a great experience too. Fucking A311 Cruise. That was the nicest, that was the nicest fan base of all the cruises I've ever been on. You know I like Jand Cruise. Jand Cruise is a lot, but they're great people. But these fucking 311, I thought it was gonna be a little more edgier to be honest. I thought it was gonna be fucking Tribal edgier to be honest I thought I was gonna be fucking tribal tats on the back of their backs and you know just like fuck it was such amazing fan base and fucking three those guys

are so open arms and let me go Hank Nick Hexham god damn that guy is hot that was the first time I saw that dude in person felt like I asked him if I could touch his muscle I'm like holy shit this guy's got some muscles. And everyone was just so nice. And shout out to Mike Simon, shout out to Six Man. You guys really know how to take care of your artists and I just can't thank you enough for the hospitality. You guys set me up. You guys got me some fucking massages and fucking certificates of this. I really felt like a rock star. So one more clap up to Six Man at 311. Thank you so much. But then next week I fly home after this Rhode Island thing.

I'll finally get to see Nick. I haven't seen Nick for a long time. We're going to catch up and we're back to our regular schedule programming. It was, I was just six weeks on the tour guys and It's all it's you know, I'm trying to juggle so many fucking things And I'm like I'm really trying hard to give keep keeping this show up for every week But I'm just getting busier and busier it's fucking crazy, so I'm working on it, but now everything is gonna slow down I'm only playing every I fly I do fly ins now every weekend So I'll be home and I'll be back. We'll be back to our regular scheduled programming speaking of that

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I will be updating a lot of the stuff on only frasco so head to volume comm and sign up Okay, we'll talk more about the tour. We'll talk more about the three eleven crews. We'll talk all about that when I'm with Nick and when I'm finally at home. Like I said, I've just been a vagabond. I haven't. I haven't been to Denver in like a month and a half, two months. I've been on the fucking road living in a bus with the boys. Surprisingly, the band's not. We fucking still like each other after six weeks, so I'm gonna clap it up one more time. That's we have. We are figuring out how to do this touring thing and not burning We fucking still like each other after six weeks, so I'm gonna clap it up one more time. That's

we have. We are figuring out how to do this touring thing and not burning ourselves out, which is fucking great, but we got Doug Benson on the show, comedian Doug Benson. He's the man he's Todd. He's one of Todd Glass's close friends, huge stoner, super funny. You definitely, if you see a Google Doug Benson, you'll know who he is. If you don't know who he is comedian, he was, he directed super high me and he's just a funny guy. So I think you're gonna really love this, this interview we did in my, in my room and at the three eleven crews. I got a couple of interviews done. I got the tropadelic

too. I was excited to get tropadelic, so I'll post that one too and then full steam ahead next week. I got a bunch of interviews, very big interviews, very big. I'll keep them. I'll keep you guessing, so you get excited about every week, but alright guys, like I said in the beginning, take care of yourself, take care of your mentals, take care of anything that you feel when you're getting burnt out, take a beat. That's why I'm in Miami. I knew I wasn't, that's why I'm like sleeping in Miami.

Oh man, it's been great. I'm getting sleep, I'm taking care of my ear. I'm just focusing on recovery. And sometimes as we get older, you have to focus on recovery. You can't just say, oh, I'll just get better. You really have to take initiative and take care of yourself. So, um, lead by example, you know, I could talk all this shit and I could talk about how we could figure out our mental health. But if I

don't lead by example, you're going to think I'm full of shit. So I got to take care of myself too. All right, all right guys, um, enjoy Doug Benson. Also, uh, tour dates while we're at it because I haven't really pushed the tour dates at all. Next week, we're in Brooksville. I'm back in Florida next week. He's this fucking Christ, the eleven to twelve Brooksville, Florida with oh, that's a cool festival pigeons playing ping pong and dogs in a pile and then the following weekend for twenty fast in Alana April, eighteen and 19th. So head over there. That's a

really good line up to and then the twenty six weekend. I'm back in Denver area, Copper Mountain. I only got three shows in fucking a month. I am fucking jacked up. Um, copper mountain shows gonna be fun to be a little party to celebrate copper man, copper mountain in Colorado's anniversary party. And then we are going back to Goose. Viva el gando. Ooh, I can't wait to go check out what the fucking drama is like for the fucking situation.

Ooh, it's getting spicy on the internet for the Goose world. Can't wait to hear what's going on. Finally talk to my friends over there, Ricky and Peter and the whole crew, and see what's going on. Um, finally talks to my friends over there, Ricky and Peter and the whole crew and see what's going down. All right, guys, I love you. Stay safe and, uh, be the best, be the best you can be. And if that's means take a little break, take a beat. All right. Love you. Doug motherfucking Benson. That's what they named me. What's up, buddy?

I'm good. That wasn't the question. You said, what's up? Not much. How about you? Nothing like shouts paradise when seeing big two diesel engines blowing fucking exhaust all over the ozone to know. I mean, every time I take a shit on this boat, I think about the ocean and how much it's

going to appreciate my dookie. Yeah. You're edible dookie. Yeah. Cause that's gotta be what they do with all of it. Right. Right. Where else would they put it? I watched the video where they dump. No, they fucking dump it like Dave Matthews does on that Fuck the turtles they're gonna get shit. Yeah, it's I can't Understand why they get away with it. It's like a shitty bukkake like I really like going on cruises, but if they ended to stop Pouring shit into the ocean. I'd be like, okay,ises, but if they ended to stop pouring shit into the ocean, I'd be like, okay, that's probably a good reason to quit that. And the number of people that, you know, fall overboard mysteriously, you know, like the

weird part, if you want like just saying, Hey babe, do you want to go on a cruise is like saying murder might be on your mind. I wonder, you know, it's like, damn, how'd she go? I don't know. She just fell off. Oh, are there any witnesses? No, just the guy who pushed, I mean, watched her. Have you ever gotten trouble smuggling weed onto the boats?

No, I mean. Like on your way back. That's the thing is that's my message to everybody's learn from my mistakes. You got your shit has to be so cleaned out like you have to if you brought stuff on the boat finish it on the boat, right? Don't throw it over the side cuz that makes him mad too. But like or or try to flush it, you know Just put it in a you know in a trash can or give it to somebody Yeah, I don't know.

Most of the people that work on this ship, I think, would be like, no, thank you if you tried to give them drugs. But yeah, just don't get it. Because one time I got off a cruise and there was enough going on with my, you know, like there was some resin in a pipe bowl, you know, and I had some non prescription pills that somebody gave me along the way that I just didn't think much of. Cause you know, traveling at the TSA, you know, they're not looking for a bag of pills. They don't care.

Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. It was some sort of painkiller that I never even used. Cause I don't, you know, I don't want to get hooked on pills But I just happen to have in the bag There's just enough stuff in the bag for them to give me and my buddy like like dogs the dog got excited It was the only time in my life. I wasn't happy to meet a dog Because he just like jumped up on me and my bags

I'm like and you're so embarrassed because you're the entertainment like just take me to the back fucking room I don't want anyone to fucking know only a few people saw me being taken aside But it was the people who saw it must have been like holy shit They got Doug Benson and and it was cliche thing ever But it was also the other cliche was good cop bad cop Yeah, you guys going through my thing this one guy he'd like pull out He pulled out the pipe and was like, what's this? The other guy goes, oh, that's a, you know, that's a pipe for smoking out of the guy goes

smoking what? And the guy goes, whatever you're smoking. Like he, there was a cop that was being nice to me. And even at one point said, I'm, you know, I'm familiar with your work or whatever. I'm sorry about this. You know, like he was kind of felt bad that I was being detained. But they held me for a long time and asked me a lot of stuff. And it's like 600 bucks or something.

No, finally just okay, you can go because I just didn't have like any, like, like if I'd had some actual weed, they, I probably would have gone to jail. They, I've gotten pulled out three times. Cause I talk about drugs on stage. I'm like, you know, I didn't realize how much ketamine gets smuggled into the Gulf of America, you know?

It's like, these fucking wooks. And then I got, because they tag me, and they strip every time they strip me. And one time I had a little nug, I had to go to the cash, they had wanted $600 in cash, I had to go to the ATM, and it felt like a fucking drug deal, dude. Like mafia style.

And I had to go have my tour manager get me $600 to give the guys, and they gave me a receipt with a smiley face on it. Whoa. Fucking, it's Florida, dude. I don't, Florida's like. Right, no that's the thing, is I just, that's why I'm just like, when you come back into Florida,

don't have any reason for them to ever get a jacket. No, but you know, like real close calls, like what, like another night, one time I was, you know, I'd done a show in New York and I was just walking through like the East village and this group of, you know, they were probably too young for me to be standing around smoking weed with them. But like, I just used to always be like, anybody says, Hey, do you want to smoke with us and be like, yeah, sure. Look around, see if there's any cops, whatever. Let's smoke a little bit. So I was smoking

with these, like, you know, a couple of them were probably in the 1416 range and a couple of them were a little older, but it was still like, I shouldn't even have been doing it really. But uncle Doug, then these cops on like, you know was still like, I shouldn't even have been doing it really. But uncle Doug and these cops on like, uh, you know, and like a little golf cart kind of thing roll up on us and like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here? And they were like, really kind of giving me a hard time. Like, what are you even talking to these, you know, these children? Why are you even hanging out with them? And, uh, you know, and one of them

was like, he's Doug Benson. We saw him in a play and, uh, you know, and the cops were like, what? And, and then, um, their little radio went off. It's something important that they had to go do came up and they just left. Oh my God. That was before anything happened. But like those that and getting off the boat here one time are like my two biggest incidents where I thought, Oh, I might, you know, actually go to jail and this might be serious. But normally, you know, it's so weird because being sort of known for being a pot smoker, I get TSA people when, you know, people are like, well, if they recognize you aren't you, aren't they

going to put extra scrutiny on you? No, they're gonna like amuse themselves. They got they recognize me say like wink at me and you know say I know they're the key. They make weird jokes. You know and like and but then I go and then I sail right through Yeah, you know hey Doug smuggling a couple edibles, huh? Yeah You're like blow it's like not today like Johnny Deffer, yeah, good one. You're like, blow. It's like... Or not today. It's like Johnny Deffer Blow, where he's holding those two bags of cocaine.

Yeah, yeah. That's what you should do, is just fucking start smuggling coke. Really take advantage of the situation. They won't know that you're smuggling coke. It's just me and my famous fake coke that I travel around with. You ever get into like coke or any of that stuff

when you're a kid? Nothing? Nothing. I never got into anything except for weed and you know probably have had too much alcohol in my life. I wish I had cut that back a little sooner than I did but yeah like when do we get a downfall or something? Just you know you just at a point where the hangovers are just excruciating right like and I'm just like as much as I like having a buzz from drinking, I can get a buzz from being high and have like a silly drink just because I still like it. So how much intake of weed do you do before a show?

Oh, I mean, if I can, I take a few big hits right before going on on because I do like Being high the whole time. I'm out there, but you know sometimes it's a timing issue Yeah, I'll take an edible that'll kick in during a set. That's always a crazy feeling Yeah, but I'll just tell the audience. Oh edible just kicked in so it's like a joke to them So when you're getting sober, are you more insecure? I don't think so. Yeah. But I just don't, I rarely, I rarely go on stage without, you know, doing something first. Yeah. You know, some sort of edible or dab or vape or something.

I used to eat mushrooms every day before shows. Just to have some fun. Did that go badly ever? No, cause adrenaline, you know, it's like when you're gigging, you get this adrenaline where you don't really feel the buzz until you have the come down. I think that's a lot of problem with addiction with musicians, comedians, is that come up when you're on stage and you just want to stay up there. Like I used to love Coke.

I still kind of love Coke. That's fair. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I feel for the people who can't come down. Yeah, it's, I mean that's also with comedians. I'm not one of those comics that like runs from club to club all night doing spots. Like if I, if I perform one, some good, you know, and

I'll even have some, you know, nights off here and there, like here on the cruise, I'm only doing two shows. So I'm like kind of forced to not do standup comedy for a few nights and it's not, it's not bad. You know, I, I love doing it and also love not do, you know, I still have a good time when I'm not doing it. You know, I I love doing it and also love not do you know? I still have a good time when I'm not doing it You know a lot of comics like like if a joke fails They can't wait to do another set as soon as possible because they'll just kick themselves About it until they can try it again and fix it right or or not say it again if they thought it tank their whole set You know, yeah

So yeah, that's actually a good point. Like I don't understand these New York comedians who do like four sets. It's like beating off and coming four times. Yeah. And it's like, but it's like, they're tweaking it. You know, they're tweaking things each time. You know? But to me, it's like, I got to talk for 15 minutes just because I changed, you know, an adverb in one joke, you know, like they got to do all this other stuff just to find out if that one thing I changed worked, you know, right. But also just, you know, if they're really good at what they do and they're pretty known for it, it's easy to, it's easy to just go around and kill. And that's the, you know,

that's the adrenaline you're talking about like it's just fun To just walk into a place destroy leave do the same thing somewhere else Yeah, but with my luck if I do more than one set in a night one of them will ruin it for him You know one set will be the chatty crowd that sucked and the other set I'll kill but it's like that's not the one that Stays with you. Yeah I'll kill but it's like that's not the one that stays with you. Yeah Pella paramount and in Denver and the first show Everyone was quiet, but the ten o'clock crowd fucking everyone's wasted. He's wasted. It was like a completely different

I don't know. I'd be intimidated to like once I blow my load and feel like I fucking had that show I got to redo it. Yeah, no I Headliners the headlining thing of like having to do like that's the other thing is if you're a band And you're playing like more than one set in a night in at a place Yeah, you just play different stuff each time right, but when you're a comic they you know reload the house So you know you could change it up as much as you want, but a lot of comics are working on like an hour to do a special or something.

So it's just reset, do the whole thing again. It started feeling to me more like I was in a play than doing stand-up. So I haven't really played into the whole, you know, throw out all your material every time you make a special and then start from scratch and come up with a whole new hour. Yeah. I don't really like that. That style does that too.

He's like kind of has his jokes. He kind of plays around a little bit, but he goes to his go tos. Yeah. So I, you know, I think it's like whatever's more fun for the performer, hopefully it'll be more fun for the audience. Because I don't like doing straight improvisation. I like to have some sort of plan, some sort of structure. But then I also like to be able to improvise

as much as I feel like it, or as much as the audience is liking it. Yeah, what's the worst gig you ever done? Just just like... Well, one time with 311, I had done The Cruise and was so well received on The Cruise by the 311 fans that it was just sort of like, so you could just open for us at like a regular show. Like they had this three day festival

that they were headlining in Florida somewhere. I can't even remember where it was. It was somewhere we're driving there. We were like driving through, like it felt like a rainforest and it was actually raining. Like the weather was terrible just getting to the gig. But by the time we got there, it cleared up. It was an outdoor show, you know, a festival show

with a field and the stage is like a conch shell. And I was like, there's no way I'm going to go out there and stand there and say jokes to these people. Like, sure, the people on the boat liked me, but you know, there's probably like 10% of this crowd was on the boat and the other 90% are going to be like, why is a comedian? Why is somebody trying to tell jokes before 311? Right.

You know, I was just like, they're going to hate me. And they had booked me and another guy that we'd both been on the cruise together. And so we got the idea like, this crowd's not going to pay attention to just straight jokes. So let's go out there together and sort of banter back and forth and fuck around. And they hated us from jump. They started booing and screaming shit. And we never, never recovered.

Still had to stay out there for like 15 minutes or however long. Is it intimidating to open for a band? It sucks. It's generally just something you don't want to do. Unless there's some sort of, some sort of compatibility. I've had situations where I've opened for a band, but that's what I love about rock cruises is they just put this comedy in a room somewhere.

You guys go over there- That's your music night and that's your comedy night. Go over there and do your show. It's not, it's not like, OK, one more time. Let's hear it for 311. That was amazing. Now here's Doug Benson. You know, like, or even having to open for them and make the audience.

That's the problem is just there has to be an expectation that there's going to be a comedian. Yeah. Before music. Then you can then you can get away with it. There's some bands that are like kind of quirky that would have a quirky comedian before them. But like, did you ever hear about the tour, the in utero tour that Nirvana did where Bobcat Goldthwaite was the opening act? No, the bottom and, and a butthole surfers. Oh my God. And Nirvana. And so of course everyone was there for Nirvana. Some were there for butthole servers and nobody was there for Bobcat. And so of course, everyone was there for Nirvana. And some were there for But Whole Surfers and nobody was there for Bobcat. And the reason that he did the whole tour without getting fired, even though his whole set was

just pacing around saying, fuck you to the audience while they say, fuck you back. He's just like, fuck you. And they're like, fuck you. And it's just, I got to see one of the shows and it was amazing how disrespected he was. And then he's like the host. Like then he- You got to see one of the shows and it was amazing how disrespected he was. And then he's like the host. Like then he... You got to watch it? Yeah, I got to see it. I got to see it when they did it at the San Diego Sports Arena. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, because I was friends with Bobcat. He's like, you want to come?

Like, and I was already a huge Nirvana fan. So he's like, do you want to come, you know, watch me open? So like, I got to meet all of them and like Bobcat is very close to them. And the reason was because Kurt Cobain, you know, living a life of absolute agony and pain. A thing that brought him joy was watching Bobcat bomb every night. Like that made him happy. Oh, and then they did a New Year's Eve show where they made him wear angel wings, like baby new year, hit it where baby new year diaper and wings. And they put him hoisting him up on like a, a zip line, a zip line over the audience. And just because Kurt thought, you know, it's just funny to make him do something humiliating.

He's the best. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he had a great time. I mean, I assume that's how he, you know, how he seemed at the time. He was just like, well, I go out there and bomb every night, but I'm opening for fucking Nirvana, you know, like at their, their, their, unfortunately their peak because they didn't last much longer. But, but, uh, yeah, peak because they didn't last much longer. But yeah, it was...

Fucking crazy. It was amazing. Dude, I'd love that. I take Todd Glass on tour with me. And I'll have them open for me. And then I've done like Kyle Ayres. But your act, you know, you don't ever act serious. Like your fun act.

But does he still get a little resistance from... Oh, he fucking hates it. He fucking hates it. He fucking hates... Well, because he wants everyone to pay attention. He's very focused on... The lighting, the fucking perfectionist. Everything.

It's like... Even in his house, dude. Like, if I put... He puts trash in places just to make it feel like ambience. Yeah But like he's very particular he's he made me like and it worked he told he's fucking he's Mike fucking one of my best friends. He's like Andy you need to introduce me and say everyone needs to shut the fuck up We have something special going on. He makes me set up there. I'm like, I don't want to go out on stage. I get seven 30. You have to tell them this is something different. You got it. They don't, they're not expecting what I want to do. And does he have a band? Does

he do that band? I'm his house band. So you're out there with him. I'm out here working two fucking shows to make fucking my hero fucking happy on this one like so funny I'm like never fucking again, dude For you guys banter back and forth. Oh, yeah, I tried to but he just shuts it down. Okay. He's like so funny He's so he's a ridiculous person. He's my he's great. What did you know who I used to date the girl from Bird Cloud? Oh, yeah, Jasmine. What's the other one? That's my favorite. Dude, that was girls. Your podcast with them, to see the look on your eyes when she's eating her out with the harmonica. Yeah, yeah.

Or who was the other girl that was on that show with her? It was like another comedian. But anyway, she was so freaked out. And I'm like, that's the love of my life. I saw her doing a harmonica solo in a diaper, eating her out, like, let me eat you. Yeah, that was interesting. Dude, it's crazy. I mean, like, that type of show can have a comedian.

If you're going to have a songbird roll in there, then you're going to have old Todd Glass with Woody Guthrie coming down to it. It's fucking insane, dude. What's Bird Cloud up to? Dude, they broke up. They broke up a little bit, and then they... But Jasmine's like the Nashville songwriter.

It's like, they do that whole fucking thing. I was thinking about that. Those are the people who inspired me when I was a kid. Who was inspiring you when you were a kid? Well, without knowing that I wanted to be a stand-up comic, I just gravitated towards it. I liked watching Johnny Carson and David Letterman and SNL, all this SNL 50 talk makes me feel so old

because I've watched it from the very beginning. Right. I remember staying up on Saturday night to see the first one with George Carlin, because I was already a fan of George Carlin. Because any kid that stumbles onto his seven words you can't see on television, it's going to be hooked on it because it's just,

it's just all these dirty words, but he's also saying these smart, funny jokes about them. And so that was like something I really was into. But other hand I was into like, you know some of the cleaner comics too and then Steve Martin was a big big influence when he was a stand-up and Yeah, I've never meet your here's and they said you suck nobody's Nobody I like said I suck, but you know... It's funny. I get very excited when I know a famous or influential or someone I'm a fan of is in the audience.

Yeah. And I will force that moment. I will get that moment. I won't just be like, oh, so-and-so is at my show. No, I will have some sort of walk away. You know, I'll have something to say about what they said to me or what they didn't say to me. Uh, you know, and, uh, uh, you know, I'll stand by the exit while people, while they're leaving, you know, just to make sure I get some feedback. Yeah. Cause it's, what was the best one that was really disappointing for me is a couple of years ago, a couple of years ago, Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz came to this outdoor comedy shows like kind of just after COVID. So like outdoor comedy was still big in LA and they came to the show, but they brought their kids and the guy, but I knew they were there and I knew they were there

with their kids. And I thought I made some adjustments in my head. Like I'll be a little less dirty cause Javier Bardem and the LB Cruz's kids are here. And the guy before me was so filthy, he walked them. And so like that's the only time I've ever known there was a famous person there excited to perform for them. And then they walked out before you could even be like, God, but at that same venue, like within days of that, Gene Simmons came to a show and he and Shannon tweed sat very close. And even, I think I even like sort of looked at them and made comments about them and She got up to go to the restroom after my set

I didn't want to wait around all night to you know talk to them but she went to the restroom after my set and I just sort of stood in the right place so that She'd see me when she was going back to her seat and she stopped and told me how funny I was and it was like Fucking Shannon tweet. Oh and to get that behind Gene's back, you know, like Gene doesn't know this is happening. It's like, come in the bathroom, I'll give you a hand job. Yeah, but his, you know, their son is a pretty cool dude. I've sort of struck up a friendship with him.

And I did a Douglas Movies podcast taping at Dynasty Typewriter in LA, where Nick Simmons was a guest on the show and Gene came and sat in the front row like with his arms crossed and really, really looked like he wanted to, you know, answer some of the movie trivia questions like he wanted to like wanted to jump in and at some point he even did like speak and get sort of get involved The rest of the family sat back in a normal place and he was right in the front row center in an empty front row So it's just Gene Simmons the whole time. I'm doing this thing. Like he's just right there. Okay, Gene

He talked to him because he's so menacing looking. Yeah, I mean he didn't act too many times when he did is always a villain It looks like a Viking villain Yeah, like like Did you talk to him? Well, I did in the sense that you know He sort of chimed in during the show and so I kind of you know talked to him a little bit and then You know afterwards, you know, he was you know, he was nice. Yeah, it was pleasant. What's that? That's fucking so funny, dude. I'm by that motherfucker if I saw him on the street I wouldn't he just like like he'd punch you or something if you talk to him, you know, it's fucking crazy

Yeah, no, he just seemed like he could just lash out But um the the other thing that I do though at the very least if I don't think I can you know Get a face-to-face compliment or response from somebody is, I'll just ask somebody, because I don't want to stare at the famous person in the audience, but I'll ask somebody, watch, you know, like one time I went up at the San Francisco punchline and Al Gore was in the audience. So I was like, watch Al Gore and tell me if he was laughing.

And then I went up and did a set entirely all about weed and how high I was. And the people I said to watch him said he was laughing. And then I went up and did a set entirely all about weed and how high I was. And they, you know, the people I said to watch him said he was laughing. When you do corporate gigs, can you do the weed stuff? Corporate gig wouldn't ask me if they were, if they were against weed stuff or, or just somebody misguided. Cause you, a lot of times, you know, somebody will go, Oh, I've seen that guy on VH1. He'll be great to come talk to our group. And not realizing, well, on VH1, I'm censored.

I'm limited to what I could say and what you can get away with. And so the live thing might be a little different. But colleges and corporates and all that kind of stuff just sort of fell by the wayside at one point in my career. And I just became more strictly, uh, you know, clubs and theaters. Who's like the rock star of the comedian? Who's the guys ripping blow having sex? Oh,

partying. I don't know. Cause some of these guys that are really huge right now are, you know, at least to the public I happily marry. Come on, spill the tea, we'll bleep it out. No, I'm saying like, you know, your Bert Kreischer's and your Bill Burrs and your Tom Segura's all have wives and also seem to have filed back the drug thing too. What about like, there's no like Sam kinesons of the comedy world? I mean, I don't think I know any any maniacs in comedy anymore because it's like It's it's hard to you know hard to pull off

Yeah, you know because It's becoming even more like you have to be your own like business manager and publicist and all this other shit And you know or at least go off and create other things that aren't just stand up. Do you like that part that the industry's kind of saving you that 15%? You know, it's just a tricky time to be, you know, Um, you know, it's, it's just a tricky time to be, you know, I'm, I am grateful every day that I have enough of a toehold, you know, I have enough of a following, uh, that I can

sort of not, not coast on it. I still want to, you know, be as funny as possible, but I'm, you know, feel like if I were starting now, it would be so much more daunting than when I did start. Because the numbers are just insane, and podcasts, anybody can make a podcast. And anybody can go up in an open mic. So it's really like an insanely crowded field. Yeah, I was thinking about that.

I mean, I'm year 15. We've been doing 250 shows a year for 15 years and think about the new bands. How you can't survive out there, dude. You can't survive off 300 bucks a night at the fucking opening playing 30 minutes to open for a band anymore. Yeah, they might not buy your merch

until you've worked your way up to like, you know, a slot later in the show or you know, get some radio play or something, you know, a slot later in the show or get some radio play or something, you know, but especially like one of four, it's rough. Like, oh, we got on this big tour. We're the fifth band. We're opening at six. Like everyone's like still getting their beer.

Yeah. And their coats. That was the other thing about those Bobcat shows is like the it's one third full, you know, so every person can yell stuff and kind of be heard Right, right. I mean you get hecklers a lot. I Don't think so. No, I'm not really Yeah, it's it's weird when you just get to a point where you're doing shows or mostly like you're the Headline headliner everyone's there for you that they paid to see so it's kind of weird for it to get heckled.

But you know, it does happen. But also, I can't say I love heckling, but I like it in that. You can get them. It's usually not you suck or boo. It's usually something a little bit more that I can do something with. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, why did you say that? You know, and then they've got some drunken dumb explanation. And next thing you know, I mean, like, why did you, why did you say that? You know, and then they've got some drunken dumb explanation and next thing you know, you know, you're getting the laughs and they're not, you know, so, but, you know, it's always a risk, but that's, that's why, since I'm not worried about getting heckled, that's why I get to be a professional comedian because people that would worry about being heckled there too. They're not going to do it. You know, like why would you, you know, or they're going to do it and they're going to

just be nervous the whole time. You know, I, that's part of why I like to smoke a bunch of weed before I go on stages. Even if something like that does happen, I don't want to be stressed by it. I just want to react to it. Phil Handy is pretty good at crowd work like that. You know, I don't know. I'm grateful that he's like a New Handy's pretty good at crowd work like that. You know Phil Handy? Yeah, I don't know. I'm grateful that he's like a New York guy,

but I was thinking like, I don't understand why comedians like, everyone's just doing, putting out crowd work bit. It's like- Because they don't want to burn their material that they're working on for a special. You know, you can't burn their written jokes. No. Because fans will really will show up at your show and go, You know, you can't burn their written jokes. No. You wouldn't want to fake on it.

Because fans will really will show up at your show and go, heard it. You know, they will have that attitude if they've been exposed to it too much. But I don't care for that system. When did you like stop giving a shit about them saying, heard it? You know, as I've become more open with the audience about how high I am because you know, that's the other thing is like, you're heckling somebody is too high to get you back. Yeah.

You know, where's this going? You know, I mean, it's just funny. It's like two idiots talking to each other. Is that what we all really came here for? You know, I just try to have fun with it and whatever's happening, you know, or, you know, or get sincerely mad. But the crowd work videos, I don't, I don't do them because then you have to plan to do crowd work.

And to me, the best time to do crowd work is when something just arises that's worth talking about, you know's like a great solo. You know, something that should be explored. That usually starts with somebody heckling or somebody, you know, a lot of people do helpful heckles, you know, where they yell out asking for something, you know, almost like, you know, how they'll ask for a song at a concert, you know, you know, fishing for it. Yeah.

And, and a lot of times that you know that works out Okay, but I also like tend to pick somebody to have a little bit of a rapport with During my set. Yeah, so that it sort of becomes sort of like well That's the person in the audience that gets to talk to me right everyone else just Enjoy the ride. Yeah Shut the fuck up St. Louis I designated my second banana and the rest of you are fucking kumquats. Are you married or anything?

No, girlfriend of almost seven years now. So, uh... About seven years. What's, uh, you know, it's like as a musician, you know, I have a bunch of people with me on the road. You're by yourself a lot of times when you're traveling. How lonely does it get out there? Well that's the thing about my current girlfriend is that you know unless I have to go somewhere

awful she goes with me most of the time. She's like she's not going to Kansas? I do a lot of shit like this like where it's just a great vacation for both of us. Oh she's on the trip? Yeah yeah yeah she's here. I want to meet her. I saw you last night. You were like with one other person oh, yeah, and then I Was gonna go over and say hi and but then became a group of like there was like ten of you Yeah, yeah, it's like I don't know if I know Me and you're gonna have a hang we're gonna have a hang but I was like I'm gonna see I'm gonna see him tomorrow Anyway, and I didn't have anything I needed to talk to you about like well

What's gonna you know, some people want to know what the podcast is going to be. Like, what do I have to, what do I have to worry about? But you're a fuck hookers that kind of thing. Yeah. But, you know, as soon as I saw your show yesterday, I was just like, and the Todd glass thing was another important piece of information. I was like fully in, you know, I appreciate it. I mean, as soon as it was like, Oh, a guy in another band on the cruise has a podcast. Will you go talk to it? Shoot me. Fuck it. Another fucking podcast. Shoot me in the fucking mouth. But I don't, that's the thing is they don't ask me to come on your, maybe I'd have to think really hard about it, but you might be my first musician

podcast. I'll clap to that. I think so. Yeah. Let's go Doug. So let's talk about the hookers then. This is a rock and roll podcast. Well, that's what I mean by when I saw your show, I was just sort of like, Oh, well, this

is a, you know, this is going to be all silliness. Yeah. What, what about, what about earlier in your career? Would you ever get like, we were super sad, lonely, just grinding it out, grinding it out. I knew that I didn't. Here's why I've never owned a dog. Even though I love dogs, is because since my early 20s I've been a comedian, and then by my early 30s I was on the road a lot. And so especially in the early days I was out in clubs every night trying to get on stage, and then once I started touring, you know,

I'd be gone for like, especially like, when I first started doing the road, there was like a comedy boom. So like clubs were like open six nights a week and they would like have a headliner in a middle and an opener for that whole six weeks. So I'd go away for like a week at a time and sometimes back to back.

But anyway, I was just on the road a lot and I've just always liked the road enough that I've never, I've never really been like on tours where I go town to town. You know, I've done a couple of those that were kind of short, but like for the most part, I go to a place one weekend, maybe the next weekend I don't go anywhere. Then the next weekend I go somewhere. Like it's, you know, my schedule is also built around, you know, I like going to, I like performing since I have a movie podcast, I like doing it at film festivals. Oh yeah. So that's a big part of my travel. Now I was just going to a film festival that I would already want to go to and have a great

time at. And then I'm also getting paid to do my podcast. So you know, my interests kind of come together nicely. So what's your favorite film festival? It's a thing that they do in Austin every September called Fantastic Fest. It's a genre festival. So it's all the most horrifying, wish you never saw it kind of movies. I love that. You know, it's all horror and

fantasy and sci-fi but of a very adult like most of us very are, you know, hard are And it's just it's just a fucked up festival because they'd also just try to do the stage events that are like, you know, like Yeah, they'll take people out to like a you know, like a shooting gallery are like, you know, like they'll take people out to like a, you know, like a shooting gallery or something, you know, I've never done that, but like, that's the most Texas shit I've ever seen. Yeah, no, it's very, a lot of it's very, very Texas, but like in a very charming way at the same time, just a very liberal approach to like, you know, this, that's part of the thing is women and members

of LGBTQ community are getting more and more into horror. Yeah. So, and they're sort of the, over the years, like it started off as sort of a boys club, but now it's like more open and diverse. And so like it's, I feel like there's more women there than men in the last couple years. Why do you think all the comedians have moved to Austin?

Do you think they're just trying to suck the rogue in Cigur-a-Dick or what? Well, because it's such a... I've been going to Austin for years, for like 20 years. I've been going like two, three, maybe four times a year. Because I go to South by Southwest in the spring and Fantastic Fest in the fall. And then maybe a couple other visits just to do standup or whatever.

And I have always just loved that place. Cool city. But I think part of what I love about it is it's just like other LA. You know, it's kind of got the same weather. Yeah. You know, it's kind of got the same, like just sort of now a lot of comedians running around. So there's a community, you know, and I've always had a great time there, so.

It's like an oasis in Texas. It really is. It really, it is the oasis of Texas. I'll go, I'll have a great time in other cities. Like that's the thing about being open pothead is that people are always like, why would you perform in states where it's illegal still or places, you know, cities

where they haven't decriminalized it? And it's just like, well, cause everyone's smoking in those places too. Yeah, exactly. So why would I not want to go there? And it's me. So like, I'm not saying because of my fame, I could smoke wherever I go. I'm saying because I'm just, I'm an average white guy.

You know what I mean? Like there's that white dude, Doug smoking weed again. I never been hassled by cops as much as you would expect considering how much time I spend in places where it's not legal. And I just, you know, do a quick bowl on a corner and don't blow it in a baby's face and move on with, move on with my day. But you just get away. You know, I just feel bad for like, you know, I try to mention the last prisoner project as much as I can, because they're trying to get everybody that's in prison because of weed offenses are trying to get them all

out. Oh, wow. And because that's like the biggest thing in my whole weed comedy career is just marveling at how I could be what I'm doing and succeeding at it or it could be in jail. Yeah. You know what I mean? Those are the those are the things that can happen to you if you're a big weed smoker. So I feel so grateful and lucky and like so, you know, if I can, you know, whenever they ask me to tweet about stuff, I like to help them.

Our bus driver was in jail for 400 pounds of weed. Oh, goodness. He was our first bus driver. When we're driving the van, he was on the Statue of Liberation or limitation, so he was going to get popped. He's just driving us around. Oh my God. And then he went to jail for four years,

and now he came back, Gondo, shout out to Gondo, now he's our bus driver of our tour bus. That's amazing. Come back story, baby. He can't come to Canada. We couldn't, we had to keep his ass. What did we do, Bo? We just kept them.

You've drove the bus into Canada. Our fucking tour manager Buffalo is so close. I know, but it's scary dude. Cause Canada, they pulled her ass over. They had three dogs on us. They fucking strip. It was, they, they, one dog was a little too friendly. They're like, we're getting the fucking vet dog in these. It was like the day that they did the tear the first day they did the tariffs. So like they wanted to prove a point and they found weed, but they didn't do anything.

I drove into Canada and or was driven in a stretch limousine, a white stretch limousine with me and another buddy and Tommy Chong. And you know, they just hold on. What are you serious? Yeah. So they, so as soon as they recognize Tommy Chong, they're just like pull over and they got us out and the entire entire and they took us inside the station and they were never threatening because the entire time they just kept

talking to Tommy Chong about how much they love him yeah but while they were doing that there were other people outside searching the entire vehicle that's exactly I was like so you're the band they googled our band smoking dope and rock and roll is the first song on Google. They're like, hey guys, we're going to pull you over. They took a sick band photo of us in the police station. But you didn't have anything that they could charge you with? They found a jar of weed, but they just said, what'd they do? It was like one little, somebody had clearly gifted it to us

and they saw that and less basically said, yeah, we got lucky. That's I like that jar return though. The game was a jar. Shout out to Canada for giving us the jar back. They're so nice. They're so nice even when they're... But that was my only issue with Canada.

And of course Canada is like, I've enjoyed going there for a long time. Because even before it was considered legal there, it was just again, just super easy to get away with in places like Vancouver and Toronto. So what's it like hanging out, like when you're hanging out with potheads, it's like kind of like this like steer down

who's like the more of the pothead. Like Tommy Chong or stick is like, you know, you know, I got to spend a pretty good amount of time with Tom and he was just more like, it was just more like talking to another comedian, you know, and, and, but just as a person who And, but just as a person who puts smoking weed out there, it's frustrating that people get like, you know, much like with alcohol, there's just a real, there's this contingent of I'll smoke you under the table. And I'm like, I'll not accept that challenge. Like I smoke until I'm really high.

And then maybe I take a break for a few minutes then I get back at it again later. But like just seeing like how much you can smoke. There's just a point where I'm not going to get any higher. I'm just going to get more, you know, uh, tired and you know, scratchy throat and coughing and all of that. I never understood like the thousand milligram edibles. Like, what the fuck? You're trying to have a panic attack. I'm like, I don't want to see my body lift up, you know? Edibles are tough for me now because it's like, you know, I tease people in the audience all the time because I'll be like,

I'll say, you know, who thinks they're higher than me right now and be able to raise their hand and I go, okay, how many milligrams of THC are coursing through your body? And they'll be like, I took an edible with 10 in it, you know, and I'm just like, an edible with 10 in it is just like eating, you know, it's just eating a piece of candy.

You know, like, it's not even that, it doesn't even have the sugar rush. How much do you smoke a day? I don't know, cause I do switch it up with, you know, vapes, dabs, edibles and and grass, you know, actual flower. I change it up between all those things. All day you wake up and get high. But pretty much.

Yeah. Sick. Yeah, I'm pretty much on it all the time. But you know, like, I can go hours without it. I when I see a movie in a cinema. Yeah. Especially something like The Brutalist. I mean, that had an intermission. So I did smoke hours without it. When I see a movie in a cinema, especially something like The Brutalist, I mean that had an intermission,

so I did smoke at intermission. But, you know, these long ass movies they make these days, I have to just sit there the whole time, and if I didn't time the edible right, I'm probably sober by the end of it. What about like busy work, taxes and shit? You know, I feel like it helps me to concentrate. It doesn't necessarily improve my math skills, but when I've got something I don't want to

do, smoking before it can be very helpful. I find that like in my day to day life, I've determined that if you make a plan, like going on this cruise, for instance, like on the morning of this cruise, I knew I was going on this cruise. There's no, there's no getting around it. That's what I'm going to do. Right. So then I can get really high and then do it. Right. But if I wake up one day and don't have any plans and get really high, then the whole day is not being able to decide what to do. Right. You know, a hundred percent. I'm great on weed if I have a plan, but if I don't have a plan, it might be, Oh, let's just take a nap or whatever. You know, I could see, you know, that's the biggest drawback to me when, when it comes to like

a weed is the lifestyle or especially young people doing it. you know, it's a lot of people get mad, you know, people are too young for it. And I sort of get that because they go, it makes them lazy. And I go, my feeling is it doesn't, the weeds not making them lazy is that they're lazy. And so they're smoking weed. Yeah, it's true.

You know what I mean? They're like, I don't want to do this today. So I'm going to smoke some weed. Like it's kind of like, it works that way. So I feel like, you some weed. Like it's it's kind of like it works that way so I I feel like you know, but It's tough. It's a tough thing because they also say that your brain isn't fully formed till you're 25. Oh, so I'm I'm very weird case too as a pot smoker is that I didn't start until my late 20s

Yeah, so your so theoretically I don't know how much I believe this when you read about it, but the people under 25 that are smoking a lot, like hitting the dab rig hard, I do kind of worry that there might be some truth to that. Oh, 100%. And a lot of people aren't drinking as much anymore, too. No, that's a thing that I think, especially, I've talked to a lot of people who get hooked

on some sort of pill, some sort of painkiller, and weed was a thing to help wean them off of it. You know, because they could still be getting a high. Like an alteration. Even if it's a different high, they're still getting something. It's also not going to be addictive. What about fucking?

When you're sober, do you come quicker when you're sober versus when you're high and kind of in this alternative state? That's a great question. I don't think, I don't think it affects it one way or the other. Really? yeah, I mean I'm usually I I'm coming so quick. I'm so very high but Sober sex I'm coming like this. I

Mean I know that's the thing that happens To a lot of people, but I'm more like you know I'm the guy that like takes You know so long that everybody loses interest. You know, like, hurry up. Yeah. If you're not going to live, it's on a 20. Yeah. We can't, uh, can't do this. Can't get this done properly because, but you know, the, the being high thing though,

also, I probably don't have a ton of sex well high because I do get more like into more of a sleepy, you know, that's my favorite thing about smoking weed is I'm not a fan of dreams. Yeah. I'm not a, you know, I don't like, I don't wanna wake up and think about what I just dreamt and tell other people about it, pour the shit out of them.

I, I know that fucking person. I just don't want it. I don't want it as a part of my life. So I You know if you get you know if you get like I'll wake up in the morning after like having a really weird annoying dream Yeah, like damn it. I should have smoked one more bowl Before bed because if I smoke enough and the people say you're still having dreams. You're just not remembering them like well, okay Are you getting good sleep? I still getting REM sleep from being this high?

I think so, but they that's the other thing where like I don't drink before bed anymore. Oh, you know, I don't like have a Any kind of drink and then go to sleep like booze you don't drink a night. No booze No booze like you drink during the day within a few hours of going to bed. Yeah, that's what this is No booze like you drink during the day within a few hours of going to bed. Yeah, that's what this is Oh, you can't all apparel spritz. I like that. Yeah, it's it's really refreshing like a little day drunk Yeah, and I but this will be like, you know, I'll have this one and then maybe at dinner Maybe I'll split a my girlfriend and I would like to split a drink So you don't get a cocktail after your show like fucking like a wine down? No, I don't don't anymore

I don't and I also don't drink at the club anymore because that was my thing is I'd show up, they'd give me a drink. They know what my drink is. Every time it's empty for the whole night, you keep getting reloaded. Then you get so drunk by the end of it that now I just have water in the club. And then that way, if they bring me more water, I can't get, you know, I're growing up, you're growing up in front of our eyes. No, it took forever, took forever. I was really like, I was a Tito's and soda man for a while where I would have eight or ten of them a night, you know. And you can still feel like you're crushing?

Well, you know, by the end of the night, like you were saying, like I'll have a lot after the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, just keep drinking, you know, just social drinking. Yeah. But now it's just like, I'm also less interested in hanging out all night. Yeah. So that's, it makes it easier to not drink as much. Isn't it awesome getting older?

Uh, I kind of like it's got some good, like for career, for your career wise, like you don't have to like, you have to entertain the whole city of Milwaukee after the show anymore. You just like do your show and get the fuck out. Yeah. You know, but people like that, uh, you know, they're into that interactive experience, even if it's sort of a stage door sort of situation. So I try to interact when I can, but that's also a great thing about, uh crews 311 crews is you know, you're you're hanging out with them for several days. Yeah, like there's a certain amount of hiding you can do in your room. You know, especially if you want to have fun, you got to go out there.

Exactly. There's Benson in the corner getting high over there with the Cougar lady with the tattoo on her back. Have you been up to the Haven? Oh yeah. That's nice. I got to stay in the Haven once, me and my girlfriend. Oh my God.

You know, they got like a bathtub with a big glass window right there. You're just looking out at the view while you're in the bathtub. Look at you, just having sex up there. It was so great. It was so great, but you know, a band like 311 they take all the

peanuts like We'll put Doug with the peasants. I think there's like 12 rooms up there peanuts dad comes every every cruise I love I want it that guy is such a mystery to me How long have you known 311 I interviewed Nick last year, but I mean I grew up in the valley I'm from West Hills. Oh my goodness. So like I'm like a valley kid. Just listen to them on K-Rock dude all the fucking time I saw them at so many acoustic Christmas and Barbecue we need we need roast dude. I saw ice I must have seen like there's a few bands like 311 and he's still hot He's still a good-looking man. Yes. He's very I was thinking yesterday. He's very Timothy Ola fan. Yes

We're like how great he's getting great. He's still I was thinking yesterday. He's very Timothy Ola fan. Yes, we're like how great he's getting great He's still fucking handsome silver Fox. Yes, I keep he takes off his shirt and he's like kind of got the old man muscle Oh my god, but it's still kind of ripped. No, I mean they all just like Energy and the moving the way they move around and everything. With the show, like 10 minutes into it, my girlfriend goes, how long are they going to play for? And I go 90 minutes. She goes, they're going to do this for 90 minutes. They're going to jump around that much.

You know, I know they have like, they have a ballad or two. They might play, who's got the herb or Amber. What if they're like, like, like drops at Jupiter, they play Amber at the end last song. Oh my god. They fucking... Everybody's just asleep on their feet. My favorite part... Because it's a very soothing song.

My favorite part for these bands who've been together for like 30 years is watching the wives and the kids all at the soundboard. They're all sleeping. Their wives are like... Yeah. I love it. Yeah, you know, it's better, like, for them, that's another thing, is I think a lot of musicians and comics agree to these cruises because it's just, they can take the family and sort of give them something more fun to do

than hang around in a stadium somewhere. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's a little bit more, and this has been a great one as far as, so how many cruises have you been on? Ten. You've done ten cruises? I've done the Jam Cruise, I've done the Burr Crasher Cruise,

yeah, I'm the boat guy. And they all just keep asking for you. Yeah, cause I can entertain any crowd. And Six Man is so great to work with. Six Man's great and then Cloud Nine's another one. They know I could just be entertaining for four days. You know? It's like a lot of these bands just play the same fuckin' set.

You're not doing enough sets, is my opinion. Dude, do you want to crowd surf tomorrow? I don't, but I... Okay. I want to watch you do it. Tomorrow at 10.30. I want to watch you do it and see if the pants go even further down. Oh my God.

I'm crouched all the way at the top of the theater. No but like we just watched Red Gold Green from like the Wings in the theater. So like... What? Just before this? Yeah, just before I came here. They're badass. That was the first time hearing them.

They're so fun. They're so fun. They're the second most fun band on this cruise. That's what I like to fucking hear. Thank you. Thank you, Doug. After 311. Fuck you, Doug. I could talk to you forever. No, this is super fun. Like, it's very comfortable immediately. Todd always thought we were gonna be friends. I'm like, yo, what's the deal with Benson? I've always wanted to hang out with him. I see him at his pod.

I love your podcast. I would love to be on it one time. I just think you're just a fucking rad dude. And you're just a really nice person and everyone who has interactions with you has always spoke highly of you. I was just like, it's my type of motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Well, I appreciate it. Well, I got one more question. I like okay you go. Uh, you take acid

I've never done acid. I've never done a lot of things. I've done some mushroom. You want a mushroom? No, I'm good I've done some mushroom. Oh, but if it's in your if it's in your pocket and not in a bag, I'll take it Just a loose mushroom But if it's in your if it's in your pocket and not in a bag, I'll take it You sure that's not from the pizza at the Garden cafe Just scare you to take like acid and shit. I don't know scared is the right word for it as much as just I Just haven't felt compelled to get that Yeah, you know, I feel like I've done enough things that, you know, can get you really fucked up that...

I don't feel like I miss... It's like, there's some things I hated as a child that are like, that are a lot of calories. So as an adult, I can still, like, no thank you to that. I could just spend my whole life never even trying it. Like, just thinking I don't like it. Because if I think I don't like it, then I don't have it and I don't end up having those calories. I do that too. I love that. You know? And so that's how I feel about hard drugs or other drugs is I'm like, well, the ones I'm taking, I'm enjoying. Yeah. I don't feel like I need to, I don't think it's a gateway. Like, I always like to say that I'm like a poster child

for the gateway drug being a ridiculous concept. Because I haven't done any other drugs, just weed. Right. Well, it's getting back to getting older and knowing who you are and knowing what you like, right? I think so, and also, yeah, and now it's also a point where it's like, wow, do I want to discover that I love cocaine at this point? Doug Benson. How old are you Doug? I am. This

is a tricky time of year because I'm a summer baby. So I think I'm still 62. I think I'm about to be 63. Doug Benson is golden years. Yes. Tries cocaine and loves it. Oh, hey man. You usually go to bed early. I'll send like you're up now. You're bit of just like just chilling. Like everyone's fine.

Everybody's three level cruising. I love it. All right, buddy. I'll let you go. You're the best. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thanks for having me. Let's when you're done with your show, let's, let's go hang out this week and like, let's

go to the show. I'm going to go to the show. I'm going to go to the show. I'm going to go to the show. I'll let you go. You're the best. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thanks for having me. When you're done with your show, let's go hang out this week and let's just smoke some weed and giggle. Oh, for sure, for sure. My final, final question is, when it's all said and done,

what do you want to be remembered by? Oof. Dang. I guess maybe that, you know, at a point where I was doing pretty well and was approached about making a documentary that was kind of inspired by one of the things I'd say on stage where I'd say, you know, there's that movie Super High Me, I mean, Super Size Me, and then I'd say, you know, if that guy can, you know, rest in peace,

if he could eat McDonald's for like 30 days and make a movie about it, why don't we make a movie where I smoke weed for 30 days, you know? And so we made Super High Me, me and some people got together and made it, and then it's just sort of You know now less and less people see it or aware of it And you know which you know makes sense because it was sort of a parody of a thing that people are also not Talking about anymore now that you know Morgan Spurlock's no longer with us. I don't know. He died. He died. He died. Yeah from that shit

No, just well that was part of what came out is that apparently like in the movie, the doctor that he has in Super Size Me is like, your liver is fucked. And then he sort of, just sort of let the movie kind of give you the conclusion that eating McDonald's was fucking up his liver, but no, he was an alcoholic.

Oh, wow. And so I think that, you know, I mean, it's probably not good of him to just keep doing these things where like he would like abuses himself by, you know, eating something gross or something. But yeah, so he's gone. And so people don't really talk about his movie that much anymore. And then my movie movie sort of a parody of that but

it's the one thing I point to is like You know, I just agreed to just go go be filmed going around to states where we marijuana is not legal just smoking everywhere Yeah, you know getting high and going out on stage and doing my shows Like I was just very open about all of that and you know, you constantly have these people in your ear going, aren't you worried about like you're going to get arrested or trouble or, you know, the FBI or somebody's going to come after you. And I was like, well, like, you know, I don't, I don't think any of that's going to happen. Yeah. I can't be sure, but you know, here it goes. And so the movie, it just hit a bunch of college students all at the same

time. So like I meet a lot of people that like made shifts in their lives. Most specifically, people say to me, I told my parents, I watched the movie with my parents and then told them that I smoke pot, like his way they came out to their parents by showing them me and how, you know, I'm just going through life, you know, high as fuck. And it seems to be, you know, it doesn't seem to be hurting anybody. You are their titty magazine. I kind of am. Yeah, I kind of am. And, but also, you know, I'm just getting more of, you know, like I met a guy, I was just walking down the street in Miami the other day and a guy like waved and I was like,

oh, he must be going on the 311 cruise. And he's like, hey, how's it going, Doug? And I was like, I'm good. He goes, you know, I wanted to tell you that you inspired me during the pandemic. That's when I started like letting my hair grow out was during the pandemic and I've just never cut it since. And he had long hair and he goes,

during the pandemic you inspired me to grow my hair long. And you know what I mean? That sort of shit, like, you know, okay, it's just a silly thing that he has long hair because of me, but it's still just always, I never get tired of hearing stuff like that. And also just feeling like what I'm doing, that what I do could inspire anybody to do anything is amazing to me. That's why you keep, keep the dream alive, baby. Yeah. It's fun to, you know, maybe someday someday like some of the coach me you go, you know, you really inspired me

I thought what is like a shit old comedian if he could do it I can do it. Yeah Like y'all customer not for whatever Old Doug Benson out here on the 311 cruise year 40. I love it. You're the man. Be safe. You too. Keep smuggling. Keep smuggling weed into the Gulf of America. It's my favorite Gulf.

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