Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 32: Todd Glass (comedian)

Episode Date: December 24, 2018

On a very special season finale of the World Saving Podcast, Andy welcomes his father as special guest co-host. You won't want to miss this intergenerational holiday sparring match. And on the intervi...ew hour, we welcome comedian Todd Glass! Arno keeps it positive with some holiday cheer. And we try our hand at a post-credits easter egg. Merry xmas, you filthy animals. This is Episode 32.  To keep up with the podcast, follow us on Instagram @WorldSavingPodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Keep up with Todd Glass at toddglass.com and listen to his podcast, The Todd Glass Show Check out Andy's new single, "Change of Pace" on iTunes and Spotify Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Ahri Findling Shawn Eckels Arno Bakker Floyd Kellogg

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Curtis from the First Methodist Church. I just wanted to let you know I got your email request. We are not going to be able to have your concert, A Jew Who Rocked Christmas, here. Christmas Day is very busy for us. We have three different masses planned. And we don't necessarily think that it is a good idea for you to do your concert in our church. It seems very disrespectful to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So if you do want to come to services, we would love to have you.
Starting point is 00:00:39 But again, you doing your lewd and distasteful music in our church seems like a bad idea. Hope all is well. I want to wish you a Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year. Thank you. And now, a little holiday greeting from the U.N. Jingle bells, frasco smells, echoes drank all day Ernie Chang is gambling, trying to pay our debts away Andy Beats, he digs trees, anything with lights
Starting point is 00:01:16 Christmas is his favorite, he thinks that it's time To run around the world in a blacked out Sprinter van Andy will crowdurf anywhere he can Singin' dirty songs, rockin' all the way Even the atheist Dutch guys are here to celebrate Jingle bells, frasco smells, echoes drank all day Ernie Chang is gamblin', tryin' to pay our debts away All right. We're here. The season one finale of the Andy Frasco World Saving Podcast. It is family week. So I had to bring out my dad. Bruce Frasco is with me on this
Starting point is 00:02:29 is with me on this nothing but family nothing but bangers episode 32 what's up dad i would call you bruno because people that's what i call my dad what's up bruno you can call me bruno you can call me dad the man who inserted his semen into my mom and now now I am here. I'm very happy to have him on the show. Dad, where did I come from? How did I get to... Because I know I didn't get... My mom's pretty prude. So I was wondering, why do I like drugs so much? Why do I like women? Why do I like all this stuff? I don't know. Did you party when you were a kid or what? No, I didn't. I don't know. Did you party when you were a kid or what? No, I didn't. You're not going to talk about it? You're a party animal. Come on, Dad.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Andy, I have no indiscretions in my life. I've been a good adult and a capable father. As to where you came from, you were born from the same method out of bliss and love that most children came from. I heard I was a nooner. Although you were a bit of a surprise. I was. Because you had me. How old were you when you had me? I think I was 36.
Starting point is 00:03:33 36. I thought I was done after two girls. You happy to have me, though? Absolutely. You're a sparkle in my eye. I'm impressed with your success and all of your abilities. And unlike many other people your age, you've been quite successful. And that's as a result of the hard work and the influence that we gave you growing up as a child of the late 80s and early 90s, even though you are a millennial we'll get we'll get to what you really
Starting point is 00:04:07 think about the youth here in a second but i'm just like i just want to say thank you for giving me my work ethic thank you for making me the person i am you know i've i work hard because i looked up to you you worked hard and i just want to say thank you for that. I didn't give you your work ethic. You saw your work ethic, and you earned your work ethic by yourself. I think also, thank you, Pops, and thank you for giving me a little bit of joy in my life through the partying and living vicariously through the things I ingest into my body. So thank you, Pops. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But let's get to the real question. Because my guest on this show, Todd Glass, we have comedian Todd Glass on the show today. Super funny, super passionate. He was on Netflix. He has a Netflix special, Act Happy. And he's been on the Sarah Silverman show and whatnot. But we had this great conversation about the youth.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I have a feeling his interpretation of the youth is a little different than my dad's interpretation. But what do you think of millennials, pops? What do you think of kids between 15 and 30? You're in real estate, commercial real estate. You have a lot of kids that work under you. Do you have any? Yes, I've had many interns over the years, and I want to preface this by saying I started out working hard. I'm not my father's generation. They worked harder, but we were given the opportunity, and I was told that if I want something, I have to go out and earn it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So I did, and I went through my life and I became a success, so to speak. I'm a boomer. I am your generation. I'm not my father's generation. I'm your generation. And I ended up hiring a lot of young men and women over the years. I started my real estate career when I was 24. I was married when I was 26, and I had two children. All right, all right. Let's get to it. Let's get into what you're...
Starting point is 00:06:15 We get it. We get it. You work hard, young kid. What do you think of them now? I think when we were kids, we had many of opportunities that we had to earn. We did not have the technology that today's youth has. Today's youth are extremely bright. They seem to be well-read, although they also seem to be very much self-obsessed.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And I think that's evident when they go out into the workplace. Unfortunately, the work ethic in today's millennial is non-obsessed. And I think that's evident when they go out into the workplace. Unfortunately, the work ethic in today's millennial is non-existent. What? Oh, come on. What do you think? Why? I shouldn't say all of them. I would say a majority of them really expect to be patted on the back merely for showing up to work. And I believe that that's partially due to the fact that when they grew up in sports or other events, that they got participation trophies. There's no such thing as a participation trophy.
Starting point is 00:07:14 You get a trophy when you win, and it's about winning at whatever you do. Okay, but who taught us that? You did. Our parents taught us that. So that's all we know is what our parents taught us. No, they were a group of sociologists. I want to get back to this millennial thing. So you think we're lazy.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You don't have to include me. I know I work hard. I think a lot of your generation is not lazy. They're just self-obsessed with their video games and their personal computers and their iPhones and their lack of communicational skills with one another. They would rather look into a box or an electronic device and answer a text rather than answering somebody to their face or making a phone conversation. I don't think they want the responsibility. I don't think they have the drive and the desire to own material things today. I think a lot of new millennials are fine not looking for a driver's license.
Starting point is 00:08:14 In my case, when I was 15 and a half in one minute, I was at the DMV waiting for my driver's license. That's not the case today. I think a lot of these new kids are happy just living with mom and dad and going about their social experiences and reflecting those on the various social media that they seem to be obsessed. Does that frustrate you? Yes, it frustrates me. Why does it frustrate you? Because I don't think it's good for our future as a, not as a relationship, but our future as a nationality or a nation to go forward where everybody is pretty much stuck in neutral. But who gave us these things? Who gave us all these, invented all this technology, invented all this technology invented all this stuff didn't you guys do that yes so aren't you default to this yes we we invented it our generation
Starting point is 00:09:12 provided you with the tools and fortunately you've become very adept at using them to the point that it's become detrimental to your societal to terence societarial skills so instead of blaming us for it maybe we should blame y'all i don't believe you blame another person for that person's action i think everybody has them their own uh their own desires and their own uh uh enthusiasm in mind and and really uh they decide to move, they have the ability to move forward and not rely on handouts and other items from other people. So you don't think we're evolving. I think we're smarter than we've ever been. Yes, you are very smart. You're the smartest generation to date. And the generation behind you will be taking your jobs if you ever go out and
Starting point is 00:10:05 get one why do you guys feel like a restraint to like let millennials just you know start doing our our job you know like start running this country and stuff why do you feel like you guys still need to run the country well i don't think any millennial at this level has the experience for a government job or even a management or upper management job just based on the fact that- But I'm 30. You started at 24. I mean, when you were 24, you felt like you could- You're right.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I didn't feel like I could run the world. I was always looking up to other people and always felt somewhat insecure that somebody knew more than I did based on knowledge or aptitude. But that didn't stop me, didn't deter me from pursuing my career and my desires. I think that's lacking today with a lot of millennials. I think they are happy with the status quo and not really interested in pursuing their ideals. They may have personal ideals. They want to be vagabonds. They want to go from one place to the other.
Starting point is 00:11:13 They don't want to stay close to home unless, of course, they're still living at home. But yeah, you just said that everyone's not moving out. They're just staying at home. So they're not really doing that. They're staying at home to save money because we have no money well you can have money you have to work for money you have to find a job that you want to do and then find a job that will give you all the things that you want i know but how are we going to get a job when all the baby boomers are still taking all our jobs well we're not taking all your jobs because at the ripe old young age of
Starting point is 00:11:45 66, soon we all die. And there's also a time in our life that we've achieved certain financial status and have material things and decide that we don't want to work anymore. Or we want to go and do something more beneficial, like work in a flower shop or something that you don't have to have utmost responsibility and you can kind of just kick back and pursue your hobbies as opposed to a vocation that's what i'm getting are we are we just afraid to die in a way are we afraid to die i think everybody i think everybody's when you get older i think everybody's afraid to die because sooner or later you come to the realization that you're circling the drain or you're pacing the cage. So is that the reason why we kind of like shoo away the younger generations? Like maybe grandpa did that to you, did that to your generation. And that's just like the cycle when we're about to, like, you know, when we feel like we're getting older and we're losing control, we hold on to every inch that we have left of control.
Starting point is 00:12:53 If it's, you know, teaching the youth or if it's giving them jobs, like not giving them jobs and trying to hold on and grasp those last things of youthfulness. Does that make sense? Well, I think my dad gave me the work ethic skills and was very hard on my performance. And in several cases, I worked for him. And I always thought he was more critical of my work than others. But in retrospect, it turned out that he was doing it for my benefit, and it happened that I greatly admire him and some of his skills and ethics that he brought to me and brought to the table and never really gave me everything
Starting point is 00:13:40 but let me work for it and earn it. So what benefits does this give being pessimistic about younger generations? Well, I think everybody loses the satisfaction of personal pride and achievement. If you just stay in neutral, then you're stuck in neutral, as they say. And at that point. So you think we're stuck in neutral? Our generation. Is that what you're saying? I think a lot of think we're stuck in neutral our generation is that what you're saying
Starting point is 00:14:05 i think a lot of your generation is stuck in neutral i don't believe your generation wants to move forward the way my generation but look at what we did for look at what we're like building for women i mean you guys treated women as a second you know second class people like we're actually our generation is actually coming to the point, like, we're all the same. So in that progress and evolution, aren't we just all humans? Yes, we're all human. But doesn't your generation also want to enjoy
Starting point is 00:14:36 the same things that your previous generations, your father, your grandfather, your great-grandfather have enjoyed? How, though? How? I mean, we're experiencing different things. You said, like, you gave us technology, so now all we know about our generation is what we see digitally. If we didn't have that, then we would have the same, I think it's just evolving, right? But your digital knowledge allows you to research far more things and far more achievements than we ever had the opportunity to do. In our day, we had to take box cameras to thrifty drugstore to develop the film.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You didn't get it instantly. In our day, you also had typewriters that had no memory. And if you made a mistake, you had to type the whole page again. There were no word processors. So the technology that you have today allows you to do things much better, much faster, and I only would like to encourage all of you to take advantage of that situation and the technology available to you rather than looking at a couple of video games or some other useless information but i think we're we're smarter now because you had when
Starting point is 00:15:54 you fucked up you have to start all over again we know we're learning way more things you could put it on a video or you could put it on just like quick. But we're learning things at a faster pace than you guys ever did. And you could call it lazy because you're not seeing us physically doing the work. You have to learn at a faster pace because if you stall, the world will pass you by. Then you're playing catch up. And even with digital capabilities and the technology you have, nobody wants to play catch up. It's much better to lead than to follow. So why don't y'all get on board and instead of playing catch,
Starting point is 00:16:31 why don't you guys play catch up as well? We are. We type one finger at a time and find the same things. It just takes a little slower and a little more time to achieve that. Well, I think I got my point here. Bruno, thanks for being on the show. Andy, I can I got my point here. Um, Bruno, thanks for being on the show. Andy, I can't wait to listen to how this, how this podcast comes out. And I know that you are successful and trying and, and, uh, I'm just trying to get, um, just trying to get an understanding of,
Starting point is 00:16:59 um, of how to get older. That's all. Well, how do you get older without the words of knowledge is they really haven't written very many books on the subject. They don't teach you how to raise kids. They don't teach you how to get old. So some of those things just happen. You use your better instincts and hope that as you get older, you've made good decisions and not suffering the consequences of your indiscretions.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And they don't teach you how to not get addicted to technology either. So for you to say that, you know, we're addicted to these things is because we don't know how to fix that do you know how to fix it i'm i'm addicted to those same technologies that you are and i clearly don't have to know how to fix it because i'll just ask somebody that's 30 years old how to fix it yeah totally but like when i i you know all i know is technology i've known technology since i was in third grade i you know it's like you learn technology when you're 30 you know that's correct so that's 30 years old when i got my first computer so maybe uh and you know instead of being stubborn you could uh learn things too
Starting point is 00:18:18 about technology even at this old age as an old elder elder Medicare card carrying senior citizen adult, there's never time or there's always time to continue learning. You will learn all of your life. And if you do so, you will enjoy many, many happy years. Thanks for having me, dad. Thanks for having sex with mom at noon. I heard I was a nooner. I believe that was a terminology that we use for you at one time or another. Well, thanks for getting that nut in so you could have me because I feel like I'm trying to help the world figure out who they are as well. And I'm very proud of your accomplishments and you are doing well.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Thank you. All my love. All right, let's go eat and go get drunk. It's holidays. All right. Enjoy Todd Glass interview. well thank you all my love all right let's go eat and go get drunk it's holidays all right enjoy todd glass interview all right here we go the final interview of season one we have todd glass comedian fucking hilarious comedian i would consider him a philosopher, too. He's got a Netflix special called Act Happy. Yo, Chris, show them a couple bits.
Starting point is 00:19:30 When I was growing up, I knew it was always hard for my parents because they would compliment my brothers and try to say nice things, and I didn't do well in school, and often that's what you compliment kids about. So they always tried to make things up about me. They'd be like, Spencer's the head of his fraternity, and Michael, he got straight A's. And Corey might skip third grade.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And look at Todd. What an appetite. He ate a whole pizza. And I was like... I thought I got the better compliment. I'm like, oh, they don't have anything nice to say about them. Yep.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Special stuff. You're in for a treat. This interview was like two hours long we cut it as much as we can but there's so much golden gems in here for anyone inspiring to be a comedian or entertainer or he talks about the youth generation as well um let's go you ready for it because i'm ready for it ladies and gentlemen the andy frasco and todd glass interview and we are fucking here with todd motherfucking glass what todd what happened what happened oh my god what happened dude we played your your podcast todd glass show you've been doing a podcast what seven years seven years? About seven years, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And we just met each other. You knew me from YouTube videos. We never met face-to-face until we got into that room together, that barn. Yeah, it's the whole thing is like you feel like you don't ever exaggerate because then when you really need people to believe, like, this is fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It's like, but it's also the way things should be. It all worked out perfectly. Can I back tell my... fucking nuts it's like but it's it's also the way things should be it all worked out perfectly like should can i back tell my yo it's you so you know um uh a friend of mine i say my girlfriend's brother but it's you know you know uh it's it's uh it's the guy i'm seeing yeah but like for not being able to say that for so long i'm like we don't know what to call i'm like oh it's my girlfriend's brother but i thought i wonder if andy knows last night when we were saying well whenever we did the show in the barn like yeah if you knew and i thought he might not have known like but i always think i'm so like my girlfriend's brother no no no i yeah i've listened to the marin uh interview cool so anyway um he saw you in denver and then you know you're trying to make a long
Starting point is 00:21:45 story short it's very hard so he's like oh you got to see this guy i was i was he was going to see um stevie wonder and uh he said then we went in we're like what the fuck is this he goes and i thought i just caught the guy having a good fucking night you know because that's what i thought i thought yeah he was just into it you could tell and then he goes i started looking around his videos he's like looks like he's into it like every fucking night like that so then i started looking at videos i'm like you know because you could catch the wrong one oh don't watch this watch that it was anything we fucking found we loved anyway it's hard to take compliments but just you take it that's so crazy and then then i jokingly said i go i'm gonna i'm I'm going to befriend this guy somehow.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Like, I'm going to befriend this guy. So, and this is only going back, what, like five, six months? Yeah, five months. I got some of your fans. I said, tweet at Andy. Go, Andy, you got to play the barn. So then you pretty quickly were like, I'm in. But, you know, people say that.
Starting point is 00:22:41 But then truth comes a month later when, you know, well, we're not in L.A. that often, but, you know, I certainly would. But you're like, and then finally we, well, you, we get, we direct a tweet back and forth for a little while. And then we finally, at the airport, I talked to you on the phone, and I remember, like, I'm like, this is, I've, like, I built this thing up. Now I'm getting, like, I'm like, I think I've like I built this thing up now I'm getting like I'm like I think I'm nervous there he is calling and then um I said it's my birthday December 16th and you're like let's do it and then but then let I mean the guy should know how I feel like so then you show up I feel like I should
Starting point is 00:23:20 let you lead but if you don't mind me so anyway we we agree on the 16th but the thing is leading up to the 16th i'm like is this gonna happen so i keep watching your video a lot of this stuff on youtube and i to explain to some of my friends who aren't familiar with you um uh i say yeah picture this but in the barn they're like what the fuck like all it took is watching one three minute performance of you and then going that fucking energy is going to be in the barn so i got like this is going to be fucking nuts so and then i and normally we have three or four people sit in as you know when you got there we had five musicians i had you know a trumpet player there for you and a drummer and you had uh andy and uh and then you had ernie
Starting point is 00:24:02 and so and then there was 17 people in there after that. And, you know, they came out. They're like, what the fuck just happened when we took our first break? And we talked and we, you know, you did songs. I fed you mushroom. Oh, that's right. So, you know, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:24:20 what's this guy going to be like when he shows up? You know, is he going to be like, I'll be like afterwards. I swear, I think everything in my to be like when he shows up? You know, is he going to be like, I'll be like afterwards. I swear. I think everything in my head. I'm positive. Crazy positive. But then also I went down these paths. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 What if afterwards we're like, he was fucking weird. Like he was different. Like, no, he was a good guy, but we could then, then not open the door. And then you're standing there with Andy and Ernie, and you have a cake with candles in it. I'm like, shut the fuck up. It was everything I wanted it to be. Yeah, let me know. I need to know about you. Give me some of this.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Look at me. I'm so quick. Well, anyway, I think some of the reason I like the music and the theatrics of it is when I, if I look back, I started comedy at 16 in Philadelphia, you know, real bad in school, didn't know what I was going to do for a living, found out about stand-up comedy, not even just seeing it live at this place called The Comedy Works.
Starting point is 00:25:19 That was the store that gave you the shot? That was the first club that, you know, you would get a Wednesday nights open, Mike night, and then sort of their first way of saying, that, you know, you would get a Wednesday night's open mic night and then sort of their first way of saying, hey, you know, you're funny. They give you a Thursday. That's best to Philly. So open mic nights, 50, 20, 30, 40 people, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Who were you competing with? Who were you in that time? Who were you competing with? Those Philly comedians? You know, there was, who was, you know, Paul F. Tompkins was around that time. And, and, and, you know, you know, I don't remember a lot of names. Does it feel like a competition?
Starting point is 00:25:53 No, no. You know, I always tell people that, that if it does, it, not always, can a person that's not competitive, but loving, get thrown into an isolated situation? Of course, where it doesn't represent who they are. But I always, I think it might be true. I hope it's true, or I'm giving people horrible advice.
Starting point is 00:26:11 But if you think it's a cutthroat business, cutthroat meaning, you know, people say shit, whatever, then it might be you. Because in every scene, there's two groups of people. Some are going, everybody's perception is their reality. So, you know, started philadelphia at the same time as me goes i remember
Starting point is 00:26:29 starting comedy then man it was cutthroat and i'm sitting here thinking i thought it was crazy loving yeah maybe because you got to be a good set type of a guy to get in a return so you know you know what i mean like wait till you see someone if you like them and go hey by the way being genuine i like that stick around maybe yeah just to tell someone hey by the way i thought that was funny then you'll get it in return so i thought it was incredibly nurturing i find the same thing here in los angeles that just just comedians are you know even the quirky ones and whatever i fucking love comedians i really do i think they're i'm proud of my what do you love about them they they give me everything i need like i like crass but i also like silly and i like someone that can like just talk serious about just something so gentle and then be crass and vulgar
Starting point is 00:27:18 and silly and childlike like who are you who are the guys you had looking up like you were looking up to looking up to like like well mostly silly that you wanted to really oh well i mean when i was inspired by super young who would i like super young i mean i liked don rickles wasn't really silly but i'm talking about when i was like like you like the live, he was a living legend even then, you know, but, but now guys, and it could be almost most comedians that you had, like Rory Scovel's a good friend of mine. And, but almost anybody, I'll go to the improv any night and some guys can never think of names. Yeah. Isn't that funny when you're trying to, but almost people,
Starting point is 00:28:01 I don't even see, but when I go to the improv, but I'm friends with them just from bumping into them at the improv and you just know you're going to have a good time. But, uh, so going back to the Philly with the inspiration with the band, like B, being a conductor and seeing that inspiration, what, what brought, did you always have this like dream of, you know, of flipping with a band and making it like a variety show? I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Like the podcast helped because it, it, I started to do things on the podcast that then I would take them over to the act, you know? So, but I always liked the mix and what you could do with the band. Like,
Starting point is 00:28:38 Oh, anyway, going back to Philadelphia. So this has to do with the music. Yeah. Um, so, uh,
Starting point is 00:28:44 you know, do stand up there, 16, 17, start getting Thursdays. You know, that's the best affiliate. Then you get a weekend, and that means you emcee, but with a packed house, 300 people opening for guys like everybody. It was like back then, there was like, and this is probably, I started in 83. This is probably about 84, maybe 83, a year later, a year and a half later.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Started to get weekends and would do shows like, I mean, that club had everybody, like Richard Lewis or Paul Reiser or Jerry Seinfeld, Gary Shandling, Jay Leno, Jerry Seinfeld, Stephen Wright, Gilbert Godfrey. It was like, you know, there were- Were you hanging around with all these cats? I was working there, emceeing shows, which would mean you do like five, six up front.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah, and then you introduce the other acts. Not right away I wasn't, but about two years later I was. And then there was a place in Pennsylvania called the Valley Forge Music Fair. It was, there's still the Westbury in Westbury, New York. 3,000 seat in the round and um i used to work there like uh ushering people and directing in-house traffic when i was like probably 16 i had that job and then so you're hustling comedy in high school i started in in 11th grade
Starting point is 00:30:01 were you doing like regional weekend stuff or were you like on the road for no no just all pretty much for the first year just philadelphia okay you know like and then if you're sort of funny someone goes hey i do a college show once a month it's in a brewery on college you want to do it and then you do that you're not getting paid anything at this point but you're you're you're getting on stage you know you're getting to do time but it's weird because it gets fuzzy but i must have gone from doing open mic night to to because i know i started in 1981 but i know also in 1984 that's when i started to open up for acts at the valley forage music fair because the owner i knew his son and he would always see me at denny's and go because he knew i started doing open mic yeah it's just open mic yeah you know he, Hey, you're ready to open up at the fair yet. It was two years after I'd
Starting point is 00:30:47 been doing it. So I was like, I always joked. I go, not yet, but I hope one day that would be really cool. Cause I would see standup comedians open up for bands there all the time. And then like a month after that, um, or two months after that, Steve goes, Hey, you're, you're, you're going to open up for George Jones at the Valley For forge music fair and then i found out his nickname was no show george i only barely had 10 minutes and jim mccormick the guy uh like the day before he called me he goes you know what you'll do i was told 10 in the beginning you'll do like 10 10 12 minutes up front then it was like you know what you'll do 15 you'll do 15 and then by the day of the show it was like 25 minutes and i'm like have you ever done 25 minutes not no no but the someone gave me really good advice i would only use it in this
Starting point is 00:31:33 situation i'm not i don't not talking anyone into doing crowd work but i just went to the crowd right away you know because dude stretch it out as much and i knew in 20 seconds i was going to be fine so how do you what do you your, what's your approach to the crowd? Like when you're doing crowd bits, like at first, like you trying to find the person who's, you know. There, it was coming in late. If you know, look, I'm not bragging because it was very, you know, anybody could do it.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah, yeah. It's coming in late, walking by. Excuse me, pardon me. Excuse me, pardon me. Excuse me, pardon me. Every time someone did it. Then if someone did it a minute later excuse me pardon me they loved it they ate it up then i got to the material did the show and then after that it went well i did a good
Starting point is 00:32:13 job and i i started opening up like for then i opened up for like patty labelle and i was like i had to be 20 and then i went to broadway with her for a month and it adds the warm-up as the warm-up and she i didn't know anything about her music then at all my my mat the manager of the comedy club told me watch her she's going to be on the tonight show because he thought you should be familiar with who this person is she's a she's a legend even then she again i'm being very honest i it wasn't my type of music then yeah but her performance like it taught me a lot she fucking gives like it's it's not even a hundred percent it's like what the fuck it's past that it's like every fucking show is fucking amazing like what would you do like what's her what was her? Throw the mic into the back of the band
Starting point is 00:33:07 and sing to 1,500 people with no microphone and everybody heard her and kicking her shoes off. And fully, fully in the moment, like no one's talking. Just, yeah, nobody. Pin drop. Pin drop. And then I did like Luther Vandross and George Benson and, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:26 just even other people like Tammy Wynette and Joan Collins and George Benson and Diana Ross. So just some crazy, you know. Is it intimidating or hard to get the crowd, like you said, like get everyone involved into this, into the bit. You know, some of them were great. Like they weren't hard because they weren't like rock and roll bands, you know, you know what I mean? Like whatever. Drunk and rowdy crowd. Drunk and rowdy crowds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they were pretty good. They were pretty good. You know, I learned
Starting point is 00:33:58 what to do. You know, I had a friend that was the owner of the club that was very helpful in giving me some key pieces of advice, watching the first shows I started to do. But then I started to open up for people a lot, and that was, you know. What was the moment? What was the show? Any artist or, like I said, damn, son, you got this. No, it never.
Starting point is 00:34:18 You just grinded it? Oh, what do you mean? Like, was there an artist? Like you said, like Patti LaBelle, who took you and gave you another shot with Broadway and stuff. Were there more acts like that or were you slowly building a fan base like now you're gonna be able to headline no not even close it was it was uh they would bring me but you know uh patty labelle was the only one that thought hey did good here let's let's bring him to uh to broadway let's you know we're doing those shows there were you making money on broadway i made i know exactly what i made my manager when i say my manager i just don't like want to be at
Starting point is 00:34:49 that point he was the owner of the club and he was helping me yeah yeah and he was so yeah in a sense he was playing a role as my manager he was my manager but it was also i looked at it like he was also doing me a favor yeah you know like this guy this kid doesn't have anybody and i and i know everything he needs to yeah i can represent him well you know even though i'm not you know a management company was he like your mentor in a way in the business he taught me a lot of stuff he taught me he he had good taste in comedy so through that how much you make on that oh so he even was honest with me how i got what i ended up getting he was very on he goes i said 500 for the week because it ended up being like seven
Starting point is 00:35:23 eight weeks he was i told them 500 for the week because it ended up being like seven, eight weeks. He goes, I told them $500 for the week. And they thought I said per show. So I just let them, you know. So I got $500 a show. At 19? Yeah, I was, okay, you know. Yeah, I was 20. And how many days?
Starting point is 00:35:37 We ended up doing six weeks on Broadway. What the fuck? I know. So you lived in New York? I did. I lived in a hotel in New York. As a 20 year old kid. I know.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And you know what? I didn't do anything. You didn't do anything? I didn't do anything. I didn't even smoke pot then. You didn't party? No. So you were completely sober.
Starting point is 00:35:55 You were a sober entertainer? I drank. I drank a little. I drank a little. My friends would come up. My comedian friends would come up. And you know, I was in,
Starting point is 00:36:03 and the thing is, it was like crazy because I didn't even understand like that was a really nice hotel room especially for new york because it was big like i had like a big hotel room and i had a very expensive phone bill too back then the phone just went on the hotel room like one week did you have to pay for it i had to pay for it but it was like it was like i think like 290 bucks And I was like I got 500 a day baby You know I didn't blow it on drugs Cause I didn't do drugs then
Starting point is 00:36:30 I didn't blow it on drinking but I spent a lot of that money Just all of it I don't know it was like late at night I would go out with all my friends I was 20 Some of them were 18 The bill would come and I'd be like They didn't have that type of money So you so uh so you live in in new york so did you start doing stand-up i didn't go out to any
Starting point is 00:36:51 clubs and do stand-up ever i know you didn't take advantage i didn't know that i was too nervous and i didn't really know you could do spots i didn't get it then because i think like why wouldn't you be in new york opening up for pat LaBelle and then go around to some of the spots and go but I didn't but you're done by what seven yeah we were done pretty early yeah and then on Sunday anyway it was uh it was what happened on Sunday her son uh Zori would be driven back to Philadelphia because he had to he would spend the weekend with his mom oh so you come back with I would go home with him and in a like it was pimped out yeah just a stupid car it was like a like a whatever it was it was mammoth and then I wouldn't do it now because it would be cheesy but back then they were just me and Zori I was 19 Zori was 13 we got along it was that was the joke they're like
Starting point is 00:37:41 there's no way those two guys should be best friends but we laughing at the same shit what we're doing crazy shit just stupid shit yeah stupid bits doing bits locking him in the uh in the in the crates that the music comes in those big metal things with wheels i'd lock them in there somehow we'd have a bid who knows what no you know i'd be just like well was that your best friend no no no but but but like, he was still a little kid, you know, but still there was like a friendship because we were both silly. And you're working together every day. Yeah, and he was Patty's son, so he would just come up for the weekends and just hang out.
Starting point is 00:38:13 But so anyway, you know, the story is there was a lot of, long story longer, I should say. I think the music, seeing all the music and just the openings of music shows, like you can do so much just while they're walking in the room. Yeah, we were talking about that. Who were you talking to that with the guy, the band walked in one by one with them?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Oh, that's, I was telling you that I'd never seen like an older crooner. Like when I was younger, I didn't go ever see anybody, whoever, who would have been guys that were already older then, but like Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra. So Paul Anka would be the closest I ever got to see that. And we went and it was the opening was, I was telling, I was telling Andy that, you know, it's, it's in like a 2,500 seat theater and all of a sudden pre-recorded, you hear dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. And it's pre-recorded you hear dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun and it's pre-recorded you know christmas music and then the the house goes halfway dark it's like it happens quick and uh one one and one band member goes on stage two member i'm counting because i know it looks like
Starting point is 00:39:16 it's going to be a big band you know because he's in la he brings like extra even two band members three band members 10 dun dun dun dun dun dun dun, 30, 31, 32, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39. We're counting. We're like 40. And then as tight as a fuck, as tight as a fuck, this is just last year when the pre-recorded music hits the last note, every instrument goes a one, you know, like a dunk. A hit. A hit. The left final note.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Boom. Boom. The house goes fucking dark. And then spotlights hit the back of the room. Like three join together and get a tight shot of the door. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome singer, composer, Paul Anka. Comes through that door.
Starting point is 00:40:06 His voice is so loud. It's so clean so clean it's everywhere it's like a trumpet it gets under the seat that voice is not just coming out of the oh the voice is coming out of the speakers no the voice has around you it's everywhere it's under you it's on the side of you his voice and he's fucking sings walks through the crowd gets up on a chair in the middle of the audience does three songs on standing on a chair you know and the guy the reason i say that because people oh he's front man he's and he's also what's he's probably 76 at this point still kicking ass and guess what and fucking not for a second do you think of him go oh he's good but you know you can tell he's getting older and that would have been okay too nope does his thing goes over to the the piano, does two pushups off the piano.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And you know what? It wasn't cheesy. He deserved it. It was like his way of going, that's right. I'm fucking sharp here. Everything's fine. And I'm fucking prepared to do a show. How important is that first?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Is it the same? Like for me, like that fucking hit him in the face on the first hit. That's why I'm always freaking out in the beginning is that important in the in like a committee in your set or somebody's set as a comedian they gotta fucking punch them in the face in the beginning or is it harder to when you're like loosen them no i i when i'm doing just a regular show like you know not la where i'm doing 10 minutes here i always want to do good but you, you're doing a 10 minute set and no one's paying to see you or they're paying five bucks.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But on the road, coming out strong, look, I've made a lot of mistakes. You know, I'm not too many, but a few blackout drunk things have happened in my whole career, maybe three. Like what? You know, getting on stage and drinking too much and 20 minutes later, just saying goodnight.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And they all, and it's crowded and they've come to see you. And it's not working. No, I got too drunk. So 20 minutes in, but that's not happened that often. So, you know, what I'm saying is. What was the craziest moment? What were we just talking about, though, before real quick? Opening with a bang.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Oh, yeah. So I've made mistakes, but overwhelmingly, I do have a major appreciation for people come to see the show. I really do. I get it. They pay to park. That's why I like to go see shows sometimes. Remind you what people do to see you.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And that's helpful. Whenever I go to see a show, you know, I'm like, oh yeah, this is what people do. Oh, I forgot.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Oh, everything's more money than you think it is. Parking is the more than you think it is. So at my best, I try to go out there. That's why the band helps because they and then the show's starting late maybe yeah so for who opens for me it's so important yeah i usually have 10 minutes i like when they go to the mic dude i don't care if you do good or
Starting point is 00:42:36 bad you just do your best however i'm not but just get to the mic and start doing jokes not how you do and they're doing fine the band plays big the house goes dark ladies and gentlemen please welcome your opening act chip chantry goes up to that mic he's a pro he walks to the mic and boom boom boom just start telling and then three minutes later you can tell that whole crowd knows okay we're in we we know what's going to go on here not well this guy's doing all right but todd will be good no boom and he says good night he gets a blackout the bands the band fires up boom ladies and gentlemen please welcome todd glass and then i come out and i just you know along with a lot of pre-recorded trumpets but the drummer just going fucking nuts and the keyboard guy joining in yeah and i get pissed
Starting point is 00:43:21 off very quickly if they don't match it with enthusiasm. And I don't mean screaming enthusiasm. I mean, just sitting up and looking at the stage and go, what the fuck is going on? I can get pissed off so quick. Me too. That's what happens to me when I don't when I feel like I'm losing the crowd in the first three songs. I will jump in them. I will fucking start. I will. I will make you smash it. You're like a punk rock comedian. Because like, dude, did you grow up listening to, like, punk rock or anything? No.
Starting point is 00:43:49 These guys, do you ever watch any punk rock? No. I mean, I would imagine, like, anything there's punk rock that I like. Because, you know, people are going to like punk rock. Just stage presence. Just, like, punching you in the face. So is that the most important? If you're opening and you're, like, be an up and coming comedian and that 10 minutes for you, they need to smash that shit.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah. I mean, you don't have to smash it, though, by energy necessarily, because there's guys that are mellow guys that are still powerhouses. Yeah. But whatever it is that you think, you know, what works within who you are, because, you know, I never I wouldn't want a comedian to think, you know, like, oh, I got to get loud. No, loud doesn't mean, you know, in certain situations for me, I can get pretty loud because you know i never i wouldn't want a comedian to think you know like oh i gotta get no loud doesn't mean you know in certain situations for me i can get pretty loud you know but once they're not there it's funny like i was in irvine this just happened and i walked out and i could see somebody thinking come on todd are you just self-sabotaging no i could tell i just saw people like you know what happens maybe i'm telling you way too much
Starting point is 00:44:47 no keep going i'm in i'm in this because i'm i'm dealing with this pickle sometimes too in stand-up comedy and i'm in a pretty good place like you know i'm not doing like 3 000 seat theaters but i can go to venues like let's say i'll go to philadelphia helium we were talking about how big is that that's about 285 people i'll go go in, I'll do Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. One show a night except Friday and Saturday, two shows. And every show will be nice. Most of the time, every show will be sold out. Pretty close, you know, five seats away from selling out.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Every show will be sold out. And I do very well. Sometimes I can go to a black box theater and do like, it only holds like, you know, 90 people, but I'll go in and do six or seven shows every show sells out yeah and I can and but when I go to a big venue what happens is like in Irvine okay 150 people might have been there just to see me but then they paper it because they're gonna make money on food and drinks so yeah and then that I can never do again I'm not even blaming the venue. I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:45:45 What's the difference? They're not giving a fuck. I can tell. I see 300 people, but they don't sound like what it should be. And you can make people be quiet by overly being strict with it. When I tell the doorman no talk in my pre-show. But I realized something. You can't make them enjoy the show.
Starting point is 00:46:01 So they're quiet because the way the show's structured. They're on date night. Yeah, and you can tell when they're in line, if they're quiet because they the way the show's structured night yeah and you can tell when they're in line if they're there to see comedy doug benson said it like just from in the line you can tell people you're you don't dress if you go to comedy it doesn't mean you want to go see stand-up you can't dress nice maybe you want to dress up and go see stand-up but you dress different guys and girls you're not dressing to get fucked you're not you know it's a very crass way to say it's true but when you look in the line you can see like people that are coming out to see stand-up there's an eclectic you can tell by the line and if they just sort of market
Starting point is 00:46:35 people like oh just come it's saturday night and you're so i'd rather do littler venues and have everyone there to see me so how do you approach it how do you approach a tour then like uh do you hit each like what how many markets are you doing mostly i do clubs it's a little bit so like maybe a weekend in one city fly home i'll maybe i'll connect it matter of fact they're my favorite times on the me and when i'm at my calmest is so i'll take, like, let's say I'll go to the Vermont Comedy Club, which is a great club. That's the good news. There's a lot of these niche little comedy clubs.
Starting point is 00:47:11 They're not $3 million conglomerate chains, but they're still cool looking clubs. And you're proud to work there. And the vibe's good. And it's a comedy club. And the comedy comes first. A well-run comedy club is the best. Because I like,
Starting point is 00:47:26 I don't mind people getting drinks during a show, to be honest. I like a good club where they, you don't see food going out that once the show starts. Pretty much food comes to a halt, you know, to the visible eye. You're building the ambience for you, right?
Starting point is 00:47:38 So the good clubs that do that, I love it. But yeah, so I'll go to Vermont. Let's say that's, let's say that's whatever's say that's uh whatever i think that goes to sunday and then i have two days off or three even do i fly home and then go to me i love to stay in the city i'm in an extra day that's like real relaxing what do you wake up nothing do nothing except at the night i'll by that time know some local comics and i'll smoke
Starting point is 00:48:04 pot at night and and go to dinner. Hi. And just fucking love it. So what about how lonely is this traveling by yourself for the last multiple years? You know, like with my problem is I have too many people everywhere with you. If you're traveling by yourself all the time, is that to like do you feel like depression comes sometimes when you don't i love i know comedians everywhere i go so if i go to a city and i don't know anybody you know i still get a little nervous doing this even now like i'll get nervous but i but i but i
Starting point is 00:48:38 get over it you know um but if i go to a city and i don't know anybody in that more you which is rare usually i'll been there already and i'll know some comedians you know but like you go to a city and I don't know anybody in that, which is rare, usually I'll been there already and I'll know some comedians, you know, but like you go somewhere for the first time I'll go to the, I'll go to the open mic night the night before you're always going to meet some of my best comedian friends. I met by going into town night early. That's the other comedian,
Starting point is 00:49:00 him or him or her come over to you after the show. And Hey, what's up? What are you doing? Oh, nothing much. You know, you want to smoke pot? Yeah. him or him or her come over to you after the show and hey what's up what are you doing oh nothing much you know i'm you want to smoke pot yeah and then the next thing you know you're best friends for life it's killer so you just so so um i don't mind going on the road even by myself now when i
Starting point is 00:49:16 like was going into a city with with uh i you know sometimes i was bringing a comedian with me like i did this thing in san antonio and um it was at a jazz club and i didn't really have an opening act i didn't really need one yeah i didn't really need one the local the owner was the band was his it was crazy it was like they had a 13 piece band oh my god and i went to see them on saturday night i got in a night early yeah because i was starting on Sunday, did Sunday and Monday. And he goes, I, and then I went and saw the band. I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:49:48 He came over to me after the show. He's like, yeah, you're going to have me. I'll be on your baby grand and I'll get you. We have the trumpet and we have the bass. They were all just playing for me, you know? And it was great. I was like, these guys are great. But I didn't want to go myself because I want to hang,
Starting point is 00:50:02 it's hanging out with a comedian. So I really spent money that I didn't really have to spend because he's doing to do 10 minutes up front i could have the band do two songs but i want to hang i i can't do it without another comedian so i just paid to fly another comedian in and paid the comedian yeah to just have him and it was worth every penny yeah do you think do you feel like your shows are different when you have to like when you come in without an opener versus having someone kind of warm up the crowd like do you have a different approach from that so far i've never done it without an opener yet but i'm but i'm thinking about it so i have the band learning a few things like they're going to sort of do like
Starting point is 00:50:39 not just a song but like i'm probably over explaining this no like explain it this is very fascinating like in san diego i'm getting ready like what am i gonna do in a market where i have the band and i just don't have anybody opening you know not even doing a guest spot you know um so i went out there i we have like a pre-recorded arrangement of uh you know it's not unusual that unusual to be loved by anyone and then the band plays along with it the keyboard guy plays along with it the drummer i said just go out there and commit like let's rehearse before the show like it's got to be fucking tight and go blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and then the whole band blah blah blah together all five of them and the crowd you could tell they were like oh that's it's so tight but
Starting point is 00:51:18 and then it ends blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah boom and the lights went out so that was like a little opening it was a cool bit and the crap so stuff like that um but i haven't done it yet i haven't done it yet do you feel when you do you feel like you have you go you're safer to try new shit when you have a band because like i feel when i try new new bits and stuff like i tried to do an exorcism in florida and i got to get a public i had to write a public letter a public apology letter to the church of saint augustine florida because i threw and i put it like i did a fake exorcism and it was an all ages show oh jesus it was crazy but i was like you know i was you know
Starting point is 00:51:56 i was younger it was just you know drunk you don't realize but like yeah it's crazy to think like have you ever pulled like a bill burrr or you just start chewing out the crowd? Like, fuck you. Not only did I... Look, I do want to have control over myself and I've learned ways to deal with crowds better than I've had in the past. And my goal is always to just try to...
Starting point is 00:52:18 But there was a night... It wasn't that long ago. I mean, it was... You know what? I don't even need to say the club no no right whatever it was it was one of those situations i wasn't really uh uh you know cultivate i wasn't cultivated in that market you know and the person that brought me in knew that you know and they're not a bad person the person that brought me in where i went was was not a bad place at all that's not the point of the story. But it was one of those things we talked about before,
Starting point is 00:52:46 about maybe every show, let's say, hypothetically, 100 of the people, 150 were there to see me, 100, whatever. Then they marketed and brought in an extra 150 of people. And they weren't, hey, at my best, I could say they weren't. I wasn't doing it for them. I wasn't engaging them. So I lost them. And what do you do in that moment? You know what? The good news is it doesn't happen that much anymore. It's not like I'm background noise. Most of the clubs I go to, people sit there
Starting point is 00:53:17 and that's the good news. And they do, they watch it like it's the theater. You know, you go to Vermont Comedy Club or the DC Improv or the Heliums that I love, and they're sitting there. They're like, they turn their chairs. It's not a B comedy club where, you know, people, yeah, we're watching. But, you know, then again, if I'm, you know, maybe more into my dinner, because no, no, they're like people. So when I get like nowhere near that, I'll work if they're not perfect.
Starting point is 00:53:40 But when I could see when I walk out on stage and the band's firing away and I walk out and they're like not even engaged, but I I could see, when I walk out on stage, and the band's firing away, and I walk out, and they're like, not even engaged, but I don't give up, I don't give up there, because I'm there all week, and it's a very respected club, and I don't want to, but I'm not, by Saturday night, I thought I figured it out, I'll open up a little like this, and then midway through my show, I go, what the fuck, I go, look, I'm not yelling at everybody, look, there's people here having a good time, and I know it, I just know that everybody. Look, there's people here having a good time. And I know it. I just know that I know that.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Because if you're having a good time and you're like, what's going on? I know it. I'm not, I get it. I get there's people in here that are, but just you will enjoy watching me yell at them. So don't think, oh, this isn't comedy. This is better than comedy. I'm going to break this down. I'm not mad at anybody in here for not getting, liking what I do.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not mad at you. I swear to God, I'm not. Look, this isn't fun for you to do. I'm not mad at you. I swear to God I'm not. Look, this isn't fun for you to go see a comedian. But what do you want me to do? This is what it is. This is what I do. If you're thinking, could it take a drastic change or turn? So if you're not liking it, don't leave and be like, people boo you.
Starting point is 00:54:38 You're not to be booed. You're not having fun. I get it. But I'm going to walk off stage. And if anybody's not engaged, if anybody doesn't go, geez, I'd like to watch that then then you could leave and then i'll go backstage and the band will play and i'll come back in literally three minutes and i'll do this and then i walk off stage i go back and then somebody goes that the people might leave without paying their checks i'm like fuck i get nervous because i can't wait five minutes because so i go back out on stage and i go i don't know what to say folks
Starting point is 00:55:05 and people were were leaving about 50 people were leaving and by that point though you know i i forget who said it the best that like even the people that agree with you let's say there's people that go no you know i thought he handled that that all right like i didn't say it was nice i said don't yell at them as they leave sometimes people will boo people as they're leaving if they if even if it's one couple and i've learned no don't mirror the behavior you don't want and even the people that are getting thrown out even if it's a dick guy but he hears you on stage go no no no don't boo them they're not having a good night either i get it i get it it's cool yeah and then once they leave, then I fucking sleep.
Starting point is 00:55:47 But I don't want them to. But then I was like, fuck. Because they weren't even there. They weren't even engaged. It wasn't like they were. They were just like what I did, it wasn't doing it for them. And I fucking hated it. Do you ever get like times in a tour, like maybe you're like first
Starting point is 00:56:04 three or four days in, you're just not catching your rhythm, not catching your rhythm. What do you do to kind of reset that? I mean, I've been bad with that because if it's a great crowd and then I could just pick and choose from the material I want to do as I go along, which is usually I know my opening, I know my closing and I pick and choose. What I'm in the mood to do. But if they're a great crowd, that's easy,
Starting point is 00:56:24 but sometimes they don't have to be're a great crowd, that's easy. But sometimes they don't have to be from the great crowd to then to the worst crowd in the world. What if they're like the best crowds at 10? What if there are seven? Hey, seven's good. You can work with a seven. Yeah. But even those, if, but if I don't have my material down pat, I get that even those type can make, can make it hard for me. so like currently i'm like putting my set list up on like it's not out now but it's in my room i've been i've been putting it up on the wall because i go i need to work on this list i need to get a new beaten path down to tour with yeah because i've been since my netflix special it's been sloppy and i don't mind if it's sloppy sloppy is i don't know what the fuck i'm doing i don't know what i should let go of what old
Starting point is 00:57:04 material should let go of what do i still want to talk about if i still really care about it and i've been doing the bit for four years i'll keep doing it but i'll go can you hit new beats within that topic can you talk about beats the beats let's say it's a bathroom your things that bother me about bathrooms yeah you know because they constantly the whole design of bathrooms the fact that there's no noise in most bathrooms, it gets crazy to me that they smell, that they smell. I mean, we have the technology, you know, to make bathrooms have no smell.
Starting point is 00:57:33 They're literally, there's things, they're called ozone machines, and they electronically kill a smell in the air. They won't put them in there. I don't get it. I don't get it. The stalls, no noise, bright as can be. People are petrified.
Starting point is 00:57:44 But anyway, the point is, and then, so I thought, well, are there other things that bother me? Maybe I don't need to talk about that bit. And then I was at the supermarket the other day. So normally I wouldn't come home and open up my computer, but when it's on the fucking wall and I see the bathroom jokes, I walk over with a Sharpie, I cross out, and I put in, why do supermarkets not feel it's their job to have the cleanest fucking bathrooms on the planet? What is it with a sharpie i cross out and i put in why do supermarkets not
Starting point is 00:58:05 feel it's their job to have the cleanest fucking bathrooms on the planet what is it with their filth they're filthy oh yeah we're only buying our food here we're buying literally our food here you're touching our groceries you will touch the vegetables i eat if i buy them from the vegetable section and the canned goods or whatever else you're touching the food so am i supposed to think well i'm sure these bathrooms are disgusting but probably everything else is immaculate yeah no who are you crazy is that the way so you think wait you know why the bathroom is because maybe even though topically it looks clean out there maybe this is anyway the point is i wrote the joke down it's not funny yet but i'll do something with it
Starting point is 00:58:40 you know there's always dented up cans in there i used to have a bit about that you know in the suit where you're where you're peeing there's always dented up cans in there i used to have a bit about that you know in the suit where you're where you're peeing there's like cans it's like they're going to return them to the side you have to find different things inside your bathroom joke to like if you still are real strongly about the bathroom joke i'm not going to try too hard but if i still like talking about it i'll just try to change around what i talk about yeah hgtv i'm obsessed with hgtv but i go you know now that it's up on the wall i think well i could get rid of that i don't really care i don't even like
Starting point is 00:59:09 it's boring to talk about now anyway but if there's something and then i'll go well this bothers me and i'll add is there pressure every year to have a new set you know i hope i'm not bullshitting myself i got close to thinking maybe i. That's why my set's up right now. Because I thought, Todd, you need to get rid of some stuff. You know, it doesn't. But I said it like this. I hope at least. And I even asked my close friends.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I'm like, tell me if I'm like, you know, if you go, Todd, I know that's your theory. But I think you're getting a little lax. My theory being, if someone sees me a year later, a year later, I hope that 40% of my material is new. Now, that says a big dose of old material, too, but 40% is also a big dose of new material. Where would you put that new material? Just anywhere? Yeah. It is halftime at the Andy Fresco interview hour.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Well, hello. This is Arno Bakker, sousaphone player with Andy Fresco and the UN. And this is Happy Holiday Spirits with Arno Bakker. Ho, ho, ho, ho. It is the festive season. The season to rejoice and be merry. Ho, ho, ho, ho. Happy holidays, everyone.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Even you! Yes, you! I know you are out there with your Christmas sweater and your holiday slippers, watching Christmas Vacation and Die Hard for the millionth time. That polite smile
Starting point is 01:00:40 while gobbling down your eggnog. Your credit cards all colored Christmassy red. The plastic reindeer's in your garden. Your electricity bill's exploding. Your second wife that should be your third if you could only afford it. Her kids around the fireplace. Your kids with your ex-wife. I gotta break it to you. None of this is real. Not Santa Claus, not the elves, not the reindeer, not the sleigh, not the presents, not the socks, not the festivities, not the nativities, not baby Jesus, not your marriage, not your bought happiness, not your salvation.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Not your bought happiness. Not your salvation. The only two things that are real are the North Pole. But it is melting like crazy. And alcohol. Goddammit, optimism, Arno. Optimism. Happy Christmas, everyone! You know how I know someone doesn't understand the craziness of what they're saying?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Because to get me to come along with you, you'd at least have to start like this. If you understood the magnitude of what you're saying, exactly what every generation says. The comedians in the 60s, the 70s, they thought they were bad. The 70s thought comedians were in their 80s bad. I lived when there were the comedians when podcasting started and all this stuff started. They were saying, what's going on with all this? Every time people think it's the next generation, and it's usually because they don't have a grip on it.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And they just, it's like, I've said this before, but I've never said it on your podcast. I say to any of my friends now, I figured out what's a, maybe a little flippant way to say it, but also loving. I can say to my friend, Jim, I go, Jim, let me tell you something. When you say there's no good music anymore, I'm just telling you this. And I'm not, I'm just telling you, nobody that knows anything about music knows anything about you except this.
Starting point is 01:02:34 They know you don't say there's good music because you're out there sampling it. They know you're, the minute you say there's no good music, they know one thing about you. You don't fucking go out to see new good music. Now you might go, good music they know one thing about you you don't fucking go out to see new good music now you might go how do they know that because if you went out like young kids went out to see new music you went out and you you went out five six nights a week to the places where these new bands are playing when they're fucking you know it's already fucking amazing but you can still go see them in a bar you don't go to see that gym now if you don't tell me I'm wrong I'll shut up in a second you know know, actually, Todd, if you actually me,
Starting point is 01:03:05 I'll reconsider, but be honest with me. You don't, when's the last time you went out to see a band, let alone went early to see the six new bands that open up for them. And even though you went two months ago and saw a band and the six bands before them, three of them sucked, you still thought about the three that you liked or the two that you liked or the one you liked
Starting point is 01:03:23 so that you do the same thing next time. Because maybe you're 21 or 22 or 23 and you can do that stuff they just know that you just listen to the radio and that's the same thing it's like this uh i got a little so what do you but no no we're honest so why are they even making an opinion good what do you mean i feel like if they're they're just one they're just talking to talk they know who the people who are saying oh there's no good new comedians there's no i think people look i know we did merge because you were talking about you can't say anything anymore and we did merge over to here i do want to go back there if you're okay with it because i want to clean it up because i figure if you're going to say you don't agree with it clean it up but i think they say it
Starting point is 01:04:03 my theory is because you know i've obviously discussed this to be funny on stage and then silly i think it really stems back to uh indirectly it's got to tie in somewhere to being afraid of death and maybe wanting to believe that they were here isn't it cool to believe like my friend goes there's no good like remember when we were like in high school there were those garage bands. He wants to believe, oh, he doesn't experience it anymore because it doesn't exist anymore. Oh, no, there's young kids doing exactly what we did pretty much and having a ball. Shit.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And they're not angry at us. No. They're not angry at us. That's the amazing thing. If you could say this, well, look, you get around young kids and they're shitting on all the old music. No, they're not. Not the ones that truly love music.
Starting point is 01:04:46 They know young kids know all the good new music and they know all the old music that was great and they embrace it. Not only do young people embrace the music itself, but what it was played on. They'll bring back records and now see tapes. They're not angry at us. see tapes they're not angry at us so i think it's you don't you want to make pretend when you say the kids today that like and the more you say stuff that's not true you start judging people from afar that's not how you know a group of people the more you say the kids today the kids today the kids today now none of the kids want to be around you so now you're just seeing them from afar and making judgments of we all know how what that's like when we make judgments from people
Starting point is 01:05:23 from afar we don't really know who they are. But I'm around kids all the time. And I fucking notice like just, yeah, they can look at their phones too. And they can take them out while they're in concert. But they are also fucking respectful. And I see it all the time. Super young people just going, what young people are you meeting? And that's when i go they're not just like the music there's no good music anymore oh because you don't go out and
Starting point is 01:05:50 deal with it you have your and then you have an evaluation on kids oh the kids are this today oh another thing you an opinion you made from afar yeah you know so i'm obsessed with it i think the minute you say the kids today you should or the minute you say you can't say anything anymore, you've got to really, you know what I said I was going to do from now on when we talked about this? What? I was going to say, ask somebody sitting across from me this, because I really do think it's probably the better thing to ask, and audiences too, maybe when I talk about it on my podcast, and I would ask myself this too. do you really think you can have an opinion on something and change like let's say there's a comedian that found this podcast and he's a guy that's going oh I don't know what I love Todd but I mean people are PC I haven't changed his opinion
Starting point is 01:06:37 on it you know like and he's going you know wait what are we talking about change oh yeah do you mind being dead wrong? If you ask most people, including me, would you mind? Like, not everything. Maybe some things you're staunch about. Maybe it's an opinion. Maybe whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Would you mind, would you want to think, at least, you're the type of person that could go, for four years, thought something. Maybe eight. But someone shed some light on it. Would you like to believe you're able to go, I was wrong. I was wrong. I was wrong.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Not, I'm going to preface this. Not, well, yeah, on little things here and there. Look, that's easy to go. We all make little mistakes. Yes. But like existential. I'm talking about something you feel so strong about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Would you like to believe that you can, if someone is clean in their point, not everybody that argues it, this person that comes along that you disagree with, but they're so clean in their point, would you like to believe they could change your opinion and if you're saying yes to that be honest with me because i'll be honest with someone else if they go would you debate whether it's right to hit kids or not at all i would be honest with you i would respect you and go oh and with no facetiousness i don't debate that anymore i just don't have the calmness
Starting point is 01:07:42 to abate it i think we're past that you can't hit kids to teach them so no i'll tap out on this instead of exhausting you yeah so do that to me like if you go no you made your opinion on you can't say anything the pc well i'll tap out but if you're like no i'll give you a listen yeah then do you think people aren't hearing people out they're just so one tracked to what they're thinking that it's kind of just like they're trying to stay relevant i see it with my parents and their generation you know like but like they're just stuck in their ways and don't understand they're stuck in their ways and and by the way i should also say it happens with younger people too but older people are supposed to have this wisdom they bring with them and when you don't bring wisdom with you then who wants to
Starting point is 01:08:23 listen to anything else you have to say. But yeah, I just think it's, people are afraid to change. You know what? You know what? I realized we came up with this theory. I won't use the name of the friend of mine,
Starting point is 01:08:34 but I really do think it says everything. And we started calling it beet juice and hamburgers. And it was my friend's mom came home. She goes, did we talk about this in the podcast she goes i can't believe they're putting beet juice in like vegan hamburgers so they'll seem more like meat you know yeah and she goes that's just wrong and my friend goes why it's it is it's just wrong well i should tell you the whole story my friend is is uh hears things he's gay and he hears sometimes
Starting point is 01:09:05 his parents say things about religion that he can't tap in on because he doesn't want them to know you know and if he goes you know that he's paranoid that if he's so he just taps out but with this one he goes maybe i was tapping him because it didn't have to do with like you know what they think of gay marriage or what they think of this but it's just about this thing and she has no reason for what she's thinking so he goes so, so I asked her, like, I didn't argue. I just kept giving her the opportunity to say it. I go, no, no, mom, but what's wrong? Like, why is that wrong?
Starting point is 01:09:32 She goes, I just think it's a beet juice. I mean, come. He goes, no, no, I'm not. I think you think I'm arguing. He goes, I'm just wondering, like, why is that? She didn't have an answer. And you know what? I bet it's the same for gay marriage.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I bet it's the same for recycling. They didn't. It's just new. That's why she doesn't like beet juice and hamburgers, because it's new. It's something she's not used to. And so we call it. So if you're going to sit and think you can find out what certain people are against and use logic to change their opinion, you have to find out if they use logic to get that opinion yeah you should do some homework before you
Starting point is 01:10:09 engage anybody because how did they come to that conclusion and i think it might just be because if you you know what i shouldn't be able to if you're really an individualist on when you change and when you don't when you stand your ground and go, no, I'm sorry, I heard your plight. I heard what you want to be called. I heard you. I shouldn't know your opinion about one thing and then know your opinion on 10 things. You should be embarrassed. So if someone says to me, Red Sox, for instance,
Starting point is 01:10:35 we don't even have to debate now what you think. But if someone goes, yeah, I mean, the Red Sox, I don't know, it's the Redskins. It's all right. I mean, come on. You can't say everyone's so PC. You can't say the Redskins. Now, I shouldn't be able you can't sit everyone's so pc you can't say the redskins now i shouldn't be able to go okay here's your stance on gay marriage here's your stance on
Starting point is 01:10:51 the transgender bathroom issue and that should bother you because you should be able to say wait you think because you know my fucking stance on the on the redskins whether that's right or not you think now you can guess 10 other things about me? No, no, but you should hate that we can. Why the fuck do you know one thing about you and then we bring up anything at hand? And if you're old enough, I can go back to how you reacted to smoking, non-smoking restaurants.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I can, everything that changed recycling. I shouldn't know every fucking thing about you through one thing, unless the only common denominator and all those things are it was different that's the only way that would work and i don't like what i'm smelling and anybody shouldn't like that you know yeah by the way you shouldn't be that music if someone goes what type of music do you like and all you do most well-rounded musicians if you ask them
Starting point is 01:11:42 what type of music they're like they always go so far away from what you thought wait you like some band you're like yeah because i get it it's all you know i shouldn't know one thing about i should you should be just all over the place so anyway i think that should have people's concern do you know what i'm saying i get what you're saying and i want to bring it back to so like say like with your parents and stuff and like were you open did they when did you find out you're you're gay i mean i knew it like a lot of people will tell you the same story you know you're younger but you just try to fight it is it the same thing with your mother my mom what do you know my mom she had the same idea like with the beet juice in the thing she just just didn't know. No, not my mom.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Oh, not your mom. No, my mom, awesome. My parents, yeah, they did it right. But anyway, not to digress too far, but it was a friend of mine's mom this happened with. But no, they're great, my parents. It took a long time for you to open up about it. It did.
Starting point is 01:12:43 It's weird that it did because, you know what, that's what happens a lot. I think sometimes, well, people that really are not, and don't care, you know, they're like, and by the way, saying you don't care about gay marriage or if people are gay, there's a way to say it because sometimes people that do care say they don't care. Like, all right already, why do we have to announce
Starting point is 01:13:02 just because the football player's gay? Like, I don't care. You care. You care because,? Like, I don't care. You care. You care. Because, yeah, if you don't care, part of Carrie is going, well, hopefully we get to a fucking point where a football player doesn't have to, and it doesn't have to be.
Starting point is 01:13:16 But by the way, you should know from some of these football players or baseball players or anybody that's coming out, including me, they're doing it because they want, they don't mind that element of it is that people will talk about it now because it sends a message to especially youth yeah like there's gay this there's gay that there's this but um but uh was it hard so so it was just that you know you look you grow up and i'm not woe is me or anything but for anybody i'll answer the question of like that's so weird that they wouldn't tell me. That's so weird.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I get it. It's a great question to say why in certain situations. Like, why would they hide it from me? Or when people you know they are, maybe because how old they are and who they live with. And you start figuring it out. And you go, come on, they have to know. They know you know. That's how hard it is.
Starting point is 01:14:03 They're not delusional. They might even behind closed doors. I know I did go, oh, this is so know. They know you know. That's how hard it is. They're not delusional. They might even behind closed doors. I know I did go, oh, this is so pathetic. We know they know now. Yeah. We know they know because we were told. But you start hearing that's why people should realize when you are, you know, like if you're anti-gay marriage or you believe in conversion therapy, whatever level, let's not even include conversion therapy. Let's just say you're anti-gay marriage and then you're okay with gay marriage.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I think you should look at any of those things like an alcoholic. First step is to admit you're an alcoholic. Of course, you deserve credit for that. And then you stop drinking. Now, it seems like should it stop there? Just you admitted you're an alcoholic and you stop drinking. But in that world, they have to go back and write letters and call people. And I think it's not to humiliate them.
Starting point is 01:14:50 They already admitted they had a drinking problem or had a drug problem and they stopped drinking. Certainly that path is not to go, yeah, let's make them call everybody. It's so they'll know the destruction they left behind. And I think people that go from anti-gay marriage to pro-gay marriage, yes, that's a start, just like you admitted. But now the reason you should go back and do, think about what your thought process, the destruction it left behind,
Starting point is 01:15:13 that your thought, what you thought and how it made people feel, because that's how, you know, that's, so my point is, so from a young age, that's how deep it gets. When you hear gay used as an adjective from a lot of people that are intelligent and people that don't even care if anybody's gay, they literally, if you gave them a lie detector test
Starting point is 01:15:34 from the heart, they don't give a shit. They convince themselves it took on a new meaning. Know that just from when you're five years old, you start hearing gay, gay, gay, every time something's lame. So just because now you're in a circle of friends that don't care, it doesn't go away overnight. So the next time you have someone that you're in your life and you're like,
Starting point is 01:15:51 how are they? It's scary. And as much progress as we're making, and we are, it's like a different world than it used to be. But don't think it's so different where it puts you out of touch with still there's a shit ton of adults and kids that are afraid for good reason to tell their parents what do you think it's getting better with the youth oh of course but like i heard someone say it he goes whenever anybody says something
Starting point is 01:16:16 like i heard a friend of mine say once uh yeah with kids today they don't even give a shit anymore now i don't want to like shit on someone being excited about progress and also they're but put it into perspective only i think i forget i think maybe jesse jackson said it when you have to do that when you have to say well hold on here no one thinks we should stop and celebrate progress more than me if you don't do it you have to stop and celebrate progress but he's basically saying please don't confuse what i'm about to say with thinking we shouldn't celebrate where we're at because we're but it's not that out of the water yet we're further than we were but you know that's you know the but that's how it is there's still gay kids that are afraid to tell their parents because you know
Starting point is 01:17:00 there's still people it's a big world we live in. And when you get outside of this situation. I got a family member who's like 21 now and she can't come out. And it's hard for him to come out. We all feel that he's gay. But will he hear this on the podcast? I hope so. Oh, okay. Yeah, he knows.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Yeah. I tell him all the time, you know, like just to open up and be vulnerable. You know, like I know the moments and it's. I just think that's especially with art like people are expressing themselves it goes with anything in life when we don't when we're trying to hold this thing this sugar-coated thing say like oh i just want to get famous so i'm just going to play what the record label wants me to play or do the art that the people want me to do you know how do we get out of that mind state to just like just be our authentic selves it if it's coming out if it's playing songs or playing music you want to play or doing art you want to do it not like some people are
Starting point is 01:17:56 just vulgar artists like i i worry about this like i'm going to say something on stage someone might not understand my situation you know and i'm pretty fucking vulgar you know so i stress out about that but like you said i i totally agree with you it's about evolving into the system yeah because you because like i like vulgarity too that's why i always but i always when you ask me what i need in comedians it's vulgarity but your vulgarity can be towards the right things yeah like what like explain like you know i don't want to like like well do we okay well i guess we're yeah okay um we go back you want to go back no no no because because um whenever you say like not you but you the universe um say that like you know like to be to to not punch the wrong people that's what you know a common use phrase
Starting point is 01:18:42 um that doesn't mean you can't be have vulgar, vulgar. You can be vulgar for the right things. You know, you can be, you know, you just, you know, you can be a watch a comedian, be angry, but it's hard to watch a comedian 20 years later, be angry and wrong. You know what I mean? That's the difference. So think about it. I always say, I think about it hopefully, but that's so with vulgar vulgarness, I mean, I love when a comedian, but it is nice when he's being vulgar
Starting point is 01:19:05 and punching verbally the people i feel need to be verbally punched yeah does that make sense so i don't mind offending people i don't want to offend people because i if you think that's cool that's probably not the best creative choice you can make to think it's cool but but i also so i think sometimes people misinterpret that because they'll be like you know you know uh because I'll defend the group that's getting picked on that I don't think should be. I don't think we should marginalize anyone's plight through comedy. But I get satirization and I get we have to defend satirization. But I think no one fucks if satirization had an ass. Explain what satirization is.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Satirization is when you brilliantly. I hope this comes out great and also goes back to answer the question about comedians that say you can't say anything anymore. Satirization needs to be defended because let's say, because it can brilliantly call to the absurdity sometimes. Satirization can also be with silliness and doesn't have to have a message politically or socially. But when it does, at least my lame, my understanding of it,
Starting point is 01:20:03 I was going to say my lame understanding above it but you know because i'll say it all the time but then you go what does that mean and it goes oh i should be able to explain that but like you know you you see good with good sketch or go back to monty python satirization can when the person doing the satirization chooses to use it comedically it can be brilliant and it can tap into very very dark subjects but if it's done right the person that knows should go it doesn't it doesn't mean if some people are upset with it but people that know comedy will watch and go no that was brilliantly just making fun of the right thing so satirization should be defended so that's not what upsets me and i think in defense of
Starting point is 01:20:39 satirization sometimes and this will answer your question about, I think, going back to when comedians say you can't say anything anymore. Satirization in defense of it or defense of even good stand-up comedy, you should be able to cross the line and have a gray area. A gray area that I'd go, oh, right, I probably wouldn't have said that. But to defend just good fucking stand-up comedy and good satirization, there's the gray area. And the gray area means they cross the line, but I'm okay with it. If I'm making the opinion, I'm going, no, I get it. They probably wanted to do this.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I don't like how it ended up looking, but I think I know what their intentions were. And they crossed the gray line and you have to be able to cross it. You have to cross over it. That's not what upsets me. That's good. It's when you cross over it and just blindly walk defiant to change don't act and then you make yourself the victim and that just fucking gets me
Starting point is 01:21:32 when you make yourself the victim you're the bully you're the dick and then you can't say i'm not you can't even discuss anything anymore that's not what you're doing discussing you're using your brilliant turn of phrase when you're a comedian or a podcast and you're saying the wrong thing. You're using your brilliant comedy to change people's opinion and you can do it. And when you say that like, oh, you can't say anything
Starting point is 01:21:56 anymore or you can't, no, no, you you're just defiantly walking against change. That's my point. So when I ask my... Okay, that totally makes sense to me. And to me, I'll give you an example, and we can leave it. That totally makes sense to me.
Starting point is 01:22:09 So will I have work that I look back on, my stand-up comedy? Of course, I'm not looking to judge anybody. I look back at work, and I go, well, that was a little sexist. And you know people that know what sexist means or racist or homophobic? You know how anybody,
Starting point is 01:22:21 you can tell the people that know what that word means because they'll call themselves that. You're not a despicable person if you go, was a little sexist of me it doesn't you so so most people that that argue it go no it doesn't mean your whole being is sexist just that was a little sexist but anyway so hold on i'm almost there i'm sorry no i'm here now that clicked on me so yes well yes. Well, I have work. When you listen to my old work and I'll go, wow, I said that. Okay, that's okay. I changed. I grow.
Starting point is 01:22:50 And, well, I have things even like now. I picture my nieces and nephews when I'm not here anymore. Well, they find work from this era where they go, oh, that was a different time. Things I don't even know that are wrong. You know what I mean? They're not. But they won't be embarrassed of their uncle. They won't be embarrassed because I defiantly am fighting change. And I'll tell you what I mean by that. I don't mean you're last in line, but things come
Starting point is 01:23:14 up, whatever it is, you're always, oh, everything new is bad, vegan hamburgers. But to me, the defiant moment that people, if you look, if you're not going to do it from your heart, I'm just telling you this, you at least know, someone has to know what i'm about to say mathematically if you can take social stats walking defiant against change just going i've heard it and i don't agree if you're still saying retarded as an adjective yeah i don't believe you've heard the stories yeah there's no way if anyone calmly said here's why why we're not doing that, that you wouldn't go. If you were somewhat go, oh, that makes a lot of sense. What don't you? So to me, that's defiant. When you have, for not the people you hurt while you're here, if anything can jar you out of it, picture you're still using that word and you're 30 or 40
Starting point is 01:24:00 and your grandchildren or your nieces or nephews are going to hear that in 25 years there's no way it's not going to be like just go wow they'll know the year it was and someone else will be like what year is that is that like 1980 because you know fairness in 30 years from now they'll be like 1980 people use that word all the time someone that maybe knows the past and go no this is from like 2018 yeah so. So it's evolving. I don't want to be that. Yeah, so it's just evolving. It's just evolving.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And knowing kids' track record, I talk about it on my special, kids doesn't mean we shouldn't question them, but the bottom line is they have an amazing, amazing new track record of being on the social, on the right side of history. And if it doesn't bend your ear, then I don't think you really want the truth.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Anybody that's getting in their ears right now, if you're not going, wait, I should really fucking pay attention to, when I say kids, young adults, the things they march for, the things they defend, the sexual revolution, ending a war. Overwhelmingly, the causes, when young people have a cause, they have an amazing Yelp review. But we don't seem to acknowledge that if you went into if you were a business person and you had the track record of the mass of kids you would fucking be you'd be fucking rich because your resume would say that time after time after time after time again you made great fucking choices and that's how you move into a new company and you make money and then when that you're done fixing that company because your resume doesn't lie you've made good choices a fucking shit ton well that's youth yeah they they're track record it doesn't
Starting point is 01:25:30 mean we shouldn't question them that's not my point they're sure fucking question them but we should know who we're talking to and show them a little fucking respect let alone you say they're the problem yeah let alone you have the i mean you're the bully they're the problem they're the answer you're the problem you're the fucking problem it's so true why they have an amazing track record look at their resume and shit up when they get into a room and show a little fucking respect you old fuck whether you're 30 or 40 look at that resume and you shut the fuck up you shouldn't be leading look at that resume may pretend their track record is a resume and fucking show a little respect, you old fuck. Why do you think they don't respect us?
Starting point is 01:26:13 Um, I think it's, I do. I think it's scared of, scared of dying. Indirectly scared of dying. It's just me pretending, wait, their hair's thicker. They have more time left on the planet. And they're smarter. And by the way, saying they're smarter isn't a fight to the old generation before. They should want it that way.
Starting point is 01:26:35 I hope the kids keep evolving. That's my dream. So when I say they're smart, it's not like shitting on people that are before them. No, hopefully they took everything you did that was great and moved on it's not an argument it's not like a fight it's like anything you're just you're you're passing the torch yeah and by the way you should be careful too you should be careful too because it starts at your age i know if you sit back there to relax just all i know if you don't want to have this happen to you then it should should really bother you. I mean, bother you the first time you say it,
Starting point is 01:27:09 you should pull over on the side of the road and go, God damn it. What? That is not good music today or any. And they think they can preface it. Holy shit. I don't mean to turn into one of those people. Well,
Starting point is 01:27:21 that preface doesn't stop you. So you do that little preface for the next three years where you go, I know I sound like one of those people. No, you are one of those people well that preface doesn't stop you so you do that little preface for the next three years where you go i know i sound like one of those people no you are one of those people they're not one of those people when do they stop listening at 30 i think it can start i think my friend who's 25 just texted me when he was back home and he goes oh my god it happens at 25 because i have people saying already i know i'm'm 25, but the kids, it starts with a preface for the first three years. You go, I can't believe I'm doing it. And then you let go of that like training wheels. By the time you're 28, you're just going. Do you think this philosophy has kept you around this long in standup? I hope that, well, you know, some of the i hope i think most of it your friend yeah most of it comes from
Starting point is 01:28:07 loving being around stand-up comedians so i don't really care their age you know they're some are 60 some are 70 some are 20 yeah so i think like i don't want to say it like i like i thought it out mathematically but you could do something just from your heart and then look back and go wow that's helped my art. That's helped me. I think knowing that it works both ways that like, you know, you can learn from the, like I learned from the new comedians, like there's shit I can learn. What are you learning now?
Starting point is 01:28:36 You know, just to like, sometimes I'll see someone do something so silly on stage and I'll go, or something with music that I thought, oh, I didn't know if I would do that or I didn't know, like, just take it to, you know, like Brett Weinbach, I saw do something. And I was like about, it was like four years ago, but I remember thinking, Oh fuck, that's real funny. Or like, I always mentioned Rory Scoville because you know, just like a silliness or I'll see like, you know, Chelsea Peretti, Chelsea Peretti one night being on stage, just being like, just so comfortable up there and
Starting point is 01:29:06 i was like fuck yeah that's what you know just so you can learn from people where would your dream residency be in in la or new york i always they have it yeah you could i mean you have to be big enough because you know even if you're doing residency let's say it like a cool little jazz type of a club but it's like you know long story very short but like sort of like i has i wanted my special to look but it's like it might hold 90 people but it's fucking nice the vibe's there the vibe is there this is a it's a big deal to be in there you know like a cool jazz club in new york city where you might not it's just but it's 90 people but they run it like taj mahal something like that but even if you're having residency somewhere in la and let's say it's one at 90 100 seat room and you do five six nights a week you still gotta have you gotta
Starting point is 01:29:49 be able to draw that many people i couldn't in la do that no so my fantasy is if i could i would love it yeah you get everything set up the way you want it oh fuck that would be great so what's your dream setup for a residency at this point the band how many video opening here's what i would do i would have two guys always keyboard drums have the have the i thought this through keyboards and drums would be on a piano yeah i mean uh probably keyboards because the room you gotta squish them in keyboards drums hopefully the keyboard guy could play trumpet somebody's got to play trumpet in. Small room. Keyboards, drums. Hopefully the keyboard guy could play trumpet. Somebody's got to play trumpet in the two that's always there. Hopefully both.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Trumpet player, the drummer plays trumpet and drums, the piano player. And then have an iPad. An iPad that in the event that someone can't be there, an iPad and drums can do it. And I've done it on the road. I've done it on the road. Really?
Starting point is 01:30:43 Yeah. You put it on a stand? we we oh god you know what do you fake it does it make it you know what let's maybe maybe we shouldn't talk about it maybe we shouldn't talk about it talk about you talk about well you know what it's fun either way so how many of your people are going to go and know you know what i mean like so yeah so we have nights where we create sometimes it's it's like one night i'll give an example there was you always make do where we look there's a table but that looks too big but there were like beer cases full of beer so he took 12 or 13 of those stacked them up then laid a black tarp on it put the keyboards on that and
Starting point is 01:31:20 then around that he has we have these black pieces of like they're thick and they've been using them for a while and they create a like a wall like if if he had like two keyboards in there but it neatened it up it looks like that's this so in there he just has an ipad there's no and he fake plays and and and and it looks good it looks fucking amazing they have no idea they have no idea the drummer plays along with him he you know so have you ever gotten the drummer and the the track unsynced like the drummer can't really hear no you know what tracked in i know he he that's something it's it's a good question um that's something that i've started noticing and just finally put an end to it in other words now i ask that's important
Starting point is 01:32:02 i ask for a monitor you have to sometimes they could play a good drummer can barely hear but you're still straining his neck all night long even if he's able to pull it off yeah you're a band now bro so i've learned a lot here now i have monitor like i just got off the phone with philly today yeah and i was like because because you know though you know i don't want to hear like well we had it but usually it works i go hey do me a favor like no i know you have a monitor because they could leave it that i could do me a favor you know we don't have a monitor when you're playing you could hear 50 of the clubs don't 50 do i need it more now i hate not having a monitor you need it i go i feel like i get strep throat yeah i also like when musicians tell their tech people what they need i love it yeah like there's times here i need more volume and then
Starting point is 01:32:42 you go back i love it i don't know why i love it it's like i need more volume then just go back but anyway so i love that you see that yeah you look at every i love everything i notice how you go off stage even at the end of one thing i'm like yeah get off that fucking stage yeah you get off like like a stud yeah it's like boom you went i saw look at him to go like you know what i mean it's all about the whole show right you know you got to think about the entry. You have to think about every inch. That's what I get high on, mastering every inch. How about as they leave?
Starting point is 01:33:12 How about as they leave? When you're not at a festival, because you're not in control of everything, but when it's just you, what do you do as they're leaving? I come back and hug people. No, what music do you play as they're leaving? Are you in control of that? Oh, no. See, that's the second step now we're finally having we're in a point where we're headlining now we're doing two to five hundred six hundred every night now and uh i
Starting point is 01:33:34 could do my own opening music i wanted to do like uh rocky it's a great it's a great opportunity to be real expressive yeah so you So you do that? Yes. You focus on that? Oh, I have. What's your go-to end song? I have. Now I change a little. The band stays out there for a little while.
Starting point is 01:33:51 And the last song I'm playing, let's say it's Glory, Glory, Hallelujah, whatever. They stop. And then there's like, I think there's this thing where, you know, then I go back. Then I let them play one song. And by that time, I call out call out depending how many people there i like to wait there's like 25 people left yeah you go deep encore yeah like let them go out like let it just be the so so then uh and i already did a fake encore for the people that were there i always say here's what we're gonna do i'm gonna do this bit i'm gonna walk off stage act like it's an
Starting point is 01:34:19 encore it's just fun to do encore yeah but i'll talk you through it i won't lie to you show me a little love i'm gonna come right back on. So I do one more bit. I say goodnight. I walk up stage. You do that? Yeah. So this really is an absurd encore for the people. So I go back out.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I go, and I walk out on stage. I go, that's right. Let all the bullshit get out of here. And 25 people, and we do Always Look on the Bright Side. Oh, cool. You always do it on your pod. What? The song you always do on your pod.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Yeah, yeah. We just sing it with the crowd. And then all the band has their kazoos. I always do it on your pod. What? The song you always do on your pod. Yeah, yeah. We just sing it with the crowd. And then all the band has their kazoos. I always look at the bride. And then everyone sings it. And then we do a Mr. Rogers song. And then after that, there's the recording of the guy from the Yankee Stadium going, thank you for coming.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Drive safely and good night. And then that goes into put one foot in front of the other. Oh, so you thought about all that all even after we get off because people will still linger so you have to think oh oh my god i need to start thinking like todd you know what else i want to do because i think to bring people as high as you want you got to get them low sometimes yeah now it's a weird place to bring them low but i think you could be happy and cool oh there's some comedians that i like i have great reverence for that have died.
Starting point is 01:35:25 And I thought at the end of the show, put it up on the big screen as people are leaving, you know, don't have to make a, and then just have people be able to, Oh, look, there it is. They, you know, picture of whoever it is that I decided to put up there, but like 10 of maybe comedians, whether it's goes back to like guys like Richard Pryor or Mitch Hedberg, you know, or Joan Rivers, whoever, just to have it as they're leaving with a really cool song about, you know. Who taught you this? Who taught you to think of everything like that? No, just how you structure a form.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Or was it someone you, like, a comedian you really looked up to that you were just, like, seeing? Then you got to be friends with him. Did you see the back end of how he runs the show? I always, like I said, I would always give. You know, the person that owned the Comedy Works, I found this out only like three years ago. And he goes, oh, no wonder.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Not that I wouldn't have innately had it in me anyway, but it probably influenced me or brought out something that was already there. Years later, I found out the first club I started at, the Comedy Works, the owner, his name was Steve Young, but then he also in the beginning was owners with these other guys. They were part owners or something, you know, Meyer and Young. Meyer and Young moved out here.
Starting point is 01:36:31 They, you know, successful producers individually. But back then they had their handprint on the club in the beginning, their creative handprint. And they were from the theater. So they had a lot of theatrics. Like the Comedy Works would start. All of a sudden the lights would go down. They would flicker them and then it would go dark and you would hear that song something familiar something it's just broadway a little campy but it's called comedy tonight yeah and i always remember then the lights would go low and it would be comedy tonight boom boom and
Starting point is 01:37:01 then the lights would go completely out so yeah that was fucking exciting like a 15 year old kid sitting in the audience like just that's what i loved about live theater as well i was that's what i wanted to be i want to be a theater guy before i didn't start playing music till i was 19 so are you really not not anything nothing i was in the music industry i was obsessed with the music industry so at 13 i faked my age so I could play a Capitol record, work at Capitol Records, and just learn everything. I used to book bands. I booked seven bands in high school,
Starting point is 01:37:33 and I would just make calls at lunch and nutrition. And you were 13? I was 13 to 14, 15, yeah. So I booked like 300 shows a year for these bands. And then I started booking the key club, the cobalt cafe, you don't mess around at all anymore. Like you're not really singing by yourself.
Starting point is 01:37:52 I'm not singing. I'm not, I'm, I'm seeing, I'm like hyping up battle the band or how, you know, I'll put five bands on a bill, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:00 capital, you know, just 20 minutes sets. And I would just like introduce you to each band and, you know, pass out flyers i would just like introduce you each band and you know pass out flyers and just get my personality through just word of mouth so it was crazy just learning how to hustle that way and just like obsessed with i was so obsessed with the music industry the back end the percentage and that's why you gotta remember kids like you were 13
Starting point is 01:38:23 yeah so when you look at a 13 year old that's a good thing to remember kids. Like you were 13. Yeah. So when you look at a 13 year old, that's a good thing to remember. Yeah. Cause it puts you in touch with him. Like, don't forget what he's looking. He's 13. You looked as young as he did.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Yeah. Shit going on in their minds. So, Oh, you're right. You're right. We can only, God,
Starting point is 01:38:38 you open my eyes on this. By the way, when you pull that kid up from wherever you're at, the kid at the festival in New Jersey, that little kid, I cried. Really? Yeah. I cried. I bet i'm not the only one it's you don't know why you think why am i crying it was just so everything it was like this kid was his coolest little fucking kid he's also adorable yeah you're so he's so little that you can literally pick him up from under his arms you know like and then you put him on he's fucking rocking out i bet
Starting point is 01:39:03 his parents are pretty cool i'm thinking that they let this little dude express himself and then they bring him to see you and you know what parents that shelter their kids my parents sheltered us not from the stuff we didn't need to be sheltered from i'm saying my parents were good at it like they let us see they brought us to see hair when we were younger so i think if they're there it's the opposite oh why is this kid's parent they're there because they think opposite oh why is this kid they're there because they think creatively this is something he will and and he'll hear a curse word or two but he won't see anything about hate and he and you know and he and he'll be fine he'll hear a curse word and we'll tell him you know these are not words you use in school but he was fucking into it he
Starting point is 01:39:40 was up there jamming with you but anyway zeppelin his name name's Zeppelin He comes to all of my Philly shows I always get him in Even if it's a 21 and up show I'll just pretend he's selling merch That's fucking great That's my guy dude We have these kids who come out now I'm like
Starting point is 01:39:54 Especially in Europe These kids are young 14 He was like I just see your message You know outside the Jagermeister Right Outside of the getting drunk
Starting point is 01:40:03 And just like That message is You know like you said we all relook our bits like when i was 20 like oh yeah i guess i was like a little nauseous with the drinking or fucking drinking it i you know a funnel of six beers i did that before i did the same thing believe me i was 32 and i was still going strong yeah i mean you're in there except you that's the thing. As you get older. Did you ever do blow?
Starting point is 01:40:26 I never did. I never did. That's why on the podcast when you mentioned it, I went, oh. I thought you had a problem. When everyone did that, oh. Oh, no, no, no, no. It was like, oh, Andy does blow.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Oh, excuse me. But back to the kid and that thing. Oh, wait, what were we just saying about that? He comes out. Without the drugs thing, and they're getting the message. They're getting the message. You know, it's like- When you're 32, you're hitting it hard.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Right. Oh, and being, yeah, so- Looking at your bits earlier. But that's so that they see you, and then they're able to like, they just, you know, to you, to them, you're an older guy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:41:04 Oh, yeah. So anybody that's older than you know what i mean oh yeah but so anybody that's older than you that sort of connects oh oh that's what i was saying one of the things that we you know i always say you know how compliments are hard to take yeah i was god you'll just take it you look the other way you know feels good to get it i don't like getting them nobody does but yet i do like them but um the documentary hit on some things that we were talking about as well to To be honest, the, the,
Starting point is 01:41:25 um, you know, I had to really like, when I was trying to introduce people to who you were, I made a conscious choice of who I, what things I showed them. Because if you show them one thing out of thing, like, no,
Starting point is 01:41:35 I don't think, I think this, the, like, you know, smoking dope and rock and roll. And I don't want you to stop there and go, yeah,
Starting point is 01:41:40 he's he, because really getting the crowd going, if you were shitty, it doesn't mean anything to me because bad comedians can get the crowd going yeah but when somebody fucking has talent and they can sing and you fucking love their songs and they can be silly or deep and it's all over the gamut and then that person brings a party to the stage of then that's what fucking intrigued me yeah it's the whole package todd glass thanks for being on the show man it was fun
Starting point is 01:42:05 everything you know what just because I know this is the I'm gonna look at this like the last thing I say before I have to move on with my life but that was that shit was crazy like that was a lot of fun we we had you know follow through we had you know I'll do it next call next call thinking just get ready it It might not happen. And then there you show up at my door, the birthday cake. That was so, that was great. Like that was, I, that I do not have to be sick 20 years from now to look back on that with appreciation. I like, I'm soaked. I just soaked it up even today and yesterday and just going, that was fucking so cool. Well, you're my buddy now man we're gonna be friends
Starting point is 01:42:45 for life yeah and then and then we're gonna go see you in april i like how i say all that and then i you say friends for life i go yeah whatever that's me not being able to accept it yeah exactly right um yeah sure in april where at in april uh lodge room lodge room in la okay downtown april 4th or it could be they might move it to the Echo so if we sell enough tickets so Todd you gotta go see Todd Glass wherever he's at
Starting point is 01:43:14 he's the best I became a new friend and became a fan and now I can see him as a brother so thank you Todd for being cool and listening to me and I'll always be here bud I'm coming back in April I'm doing your show too and now I can see him as a brother. So thank you, Todd, for being cool and listening to me. And I'll always be here, bud. I'm coming back in April.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I'm doing your show too. I'm coming back and doing the band. I have the whole band. I literally have all 10 of us and we're all going to show up. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you better be ready. Now already, you know what I'm doing? Even if it's five, that would be awesome.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I'm already getting it. That's what I do. No, you're going to 10. I'm getting the whole band. This is the next time. Can I tell you something? What? And then I would have just us. Just us.
Starting point is 01:43:49 That's a good one. Like the five of us. That's a good one. You know? And then it just gets just to be just for us. What if we did that? Maybe I do. Maybe I do three other people like Steve Fine Arts.
Starting point is 01:43:59 But nothing near 20. Just like. So we already did the party. What if we did the little intimacy of just us? Yeah. That's what's special too. All right. Todd glass.
Starting point is 01:44:10 Everyone go check out Netflix. Love you. Hey, it's December 20. Last day in the office for us. I wanted to catch you before taking off. Um, to thank you for a killer year.
Starting point is 01:44:26 You did amazing. You're growing. People seem to care about you, which is nice and comforting. We're definitely on the right path. So thank you. Thanks for working hard. Tell the band thanks for working hard. Let's try to get better.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Let's not fuck up as much as we did this year. Try to be nice to people on my team, please. Your team, everyone around you. Don't be a dick to Rachel. Um, don't, uh, don't curse when there are kids around. Um, don't get anybody else pregnant. Try to, try to, you know, try to be an adult. Grow up a little bit.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Um, you know what I mean? Embrace this and, uh and stay alive and drink water. Love you. Bye. Wow. Wasn't that fucking something? Todd Glass, Bruce Frasco,
Starting point is 01:45:17 two different feelings about the generation. There you have it. Season one is over, ladies and gentlemen. It's been a fun year. We've had so many great guests. I'm just thankful that you guys are sticking around hearing me out on all this stuff, trying to get a little inspiration,
Starting point is 01:45:39 get a little information out of people because whatever way we think about it, we are going through the same experiences. You know, it might not be the same cosmetic experience, but if you look deep down in the sitch, we are dealing with a lot of the same things. And it's really makes me happy for people to get vulnerable and tell their stories on this show. But that's it. Season one is over. But don't worry. We're taking two weeks off
Starting point is 01:46:09 and we'll be back in that ass on like January 12th or January 10th. The day I leave for Jam Cruise will be the first episode. It's going to be awesome season two. You guys have been so wonderful to us.
Starting point is 01:46:26 I can't thank you enough. We got a lot of goodies up our sleeves for season two. So please stick around. Please tell your friends. You know, we got two weeks off, so we're going to be doing like some little half episodes or best of just to get people still pumped up while they're dealing through holidays.
Starting point is 01:46:44 But I hope everyone had a great Christmas or if you hear this after or before Christmas, hope you have a great Christmas and Hanukkah. And I hope you have a wonderful new year. 2018 was fucking weird, but we grow. We grow through every year and I can't wait to see what 2019 brings to all of us. Take care of yourselves. This is going to be a fun two weeks. I'm going to miss you. I'm going to China.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Going to Japan. And then I'm off to Jam Cruise and Rock Boat and touring with Carl Denson. And then in February, we are putting out a new record. So we got a lot of stuff we're excited about and I hope you are too. Yes, take care of yourselves, guys. I want to see you soon. I'll see you
Starting point is 01:47:32 on the road. Let me know what you think of the podcast when I see you live. I'm getting some crazy voicemails now. I think the voicemail thing is catching on because now I'm just getting weird-ass voicemails from everybody. So shout out to you. I'll try to get all these voicemails up on the podcast. If you got an weird ass voicemails from everybody. So shout out to you. I'll try to get all these voicemails up on the podcast. If you got an idea for voicemails,
Starting point is 01:47:49 send it over. Hit me up. If you have my number, I'm not going to just blast my number, but I give it to everybody. So you could probably find a way to get ahold of me, but that's it. Season one. In the wrap. Subscribe to the podcast. Rate the podcast. Comment on the podcast. Do whatever you can to take care of yourselves. Because I love doing this and I just want to keep growing this thing and keep smashing through it. So until next time, 2019, let's skull fuck 2019. Love you guys. Be safe. Arno, Chris, Joe, thank you for helping me with this season one. Yeti, thank you, buddy. That's it. Love you.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Talk soon. Comb your hair. Wear condoms. See you in the fucking future. Season two! Well, thank you for listening to episode 32 and the season one finale of Andy Fresco's World Saving Podcast, produced by Andy Fresco,
Starting point is 01:48:58 Joe Angel Howe, and Chris Lawrence. Please subscribe, rate the show on iTunes and Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon. For info on the show, please head to our Instagram at Fresco and Yeti. For more info on the
Starting point is 01:49:12 blog and tour dates, head to andyfresco.com. For more information on our guest, Todd Glass, please head to toddglass.com. That's double D, double S, Todd Glass. Check out Andy's latest singles, Up, Down and Change of Pace on iTunes, Spotify and everywhere else where you can stream your music. This week's special guests are Ari Feindling, Sean Eccles, Arne Bakker and thank you for this wonderful season.
Starting point is 01:49:39 It's been fun getting to know you and we can't wait for you to hear season two. Ernie Chang, Andy Arvilla, Sean Eccles, Niels Kant, Jelmer Olsen, Arno Bakker, the whole band and Andy Fresco are in China now. And we'll have reached 2019 way ahead of you. That is okay, because there is still plenty of time to get wasted for Auld Lang Syne. Cheerio! because there is still plenty of time to get wasted for Auld Lang Syne. Cheerio! And now, attend a moment where Yeti gives Andy a handy...
Starting point is 01:50:17 Yeti, you're a single man. Give me that pipe, I'm not high enough for this. Okay, smoke this. You're half chub going on talking about this thing. We are fucking on to something here. Yeah, you can't have that big of a dick. You've half chub going on talking about this thing. We are fucking on to something here. Yeah. You can't have that big of a dick. You've seen my dick. Just lay down on the ground and just feel what's going on around you. Can you brush your teeth? What do you think?
Starting point is 01:50:35 What are you doing? I have no money. Why are you doing this? Actually, damn. That's a good one. Oh, fuck. Yeah, dude. dude Oh this is good I like this Ooh
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Starting point is 01:50:58 Yeah Okay Ooh Ooh Oh Andy Yes Yes oh andy yes yes it doesn't matter what's in your mind you're just basically going for the feeling of the orgasm maybe you have to close your eyes um and just firmly believe music that the energy that sustains our consciousness you and i being able to connect you and i going through our moments and everything and our emotions and all of that is built off of that
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Starting point is 01:51:45 Yeah this is not This is not about language Yeah But so you've got So I mean do everything Do Just like No no audio
Starting point is 01:51:51 No No Coptic vocalization And it can't have any words It can't have chanting either Okay Okay Well that's why you and I are in love No it's gotta be more primal
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Starting point is 01:52:45 What did we learn today, Yeti? We learned that I firmly believe that that energy is also what causes the waves to move and that it's all connected. Ew. No? Two consenting adults just getting it on. I know. Maybe I'm just getting older and I'm just like, I just don't enjoy it anymore.
Starting point is 01:53:04 I hate the mornings after one night stands. I've got some videos. You will never see them. May God, I hope my parents listen to this. My parents are definitely listening to this. Sorry, Mom. Well, that was great.

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