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Andy Frasco's World Save Podcast.
I'm Andy Frasco, literally on vacation.
Touring is kind of like a vacation.
I am in our bus.
It's our first day back.
We're playing Washington DC
tonight yeah things have been fucking chaotic out here in frasca world but
we're excited we yeah you know with all the all the politics and shit going on
in the world right now we decided to get we tried to lighten the load a little
bit we got an a comedian and he's he's a liberal redneck. We call him Trey Crowder
you're gonna love this one, but
Yeah, it's been insane. I've been
On the road since I got back off tour. It's I've been in Nashville for about ten days and then
Just do impress for growing pains and I just want to say thank you so much
for everyone who's been listening to it. I've been getting a lot of love for it and I just can't
thank you enough. It's been fucking crazy. And then I got off that tour, little run, and then
I got asked to write some music for some country people or with some country people per se and
they've been calling me the kosher cowboy.
I'm really proud where I'm working on a new EP in Nashville and stuff and it's just been a lot
and I was realizing you know I was getting a little burnt out a little bit I'll be honest with you
but you know being burnt out it's okay if you're doing what you love and knowing your body like
burnt out's okay if you're doing what you love and knowing your body like I did I did 10 days I was doing the studio in Nashville and I would I was testing myself to see if I could write a song from
out of nowhere and then produce it and produce so make a whole track in eight hours. And I came out with four songs and just kind of,
I'm putting my shoulders down to know that I'm like,
you know, a songwriter.
So it made me happy that I could do that.
And then I went there and then I went,
I had to do Burr Chrysler's podcast and Leanne,
which was cool.
And now I'm in DC and the Growing Pains tour starts.
And so this is what I'm pretty excited about.
All the shows have been selling incredibly well.
There's a couple of shitty turnouts.
I don't remember what, but just buy some tickets online.
Kind of spaced out today.
I've been, I flew in last night
and sometimes like when I'm flying like longer
than three hours I start getting that anxiety back and stuff. I don't like sin still as
you know for a long time. I woke up in DC. We got the bus now, as you can tell, this is how I live out here on the road.
There's a who's in this bus right now.
Anybody?
No one's in here.
Wow.
First time ever.
No one's in here.
And we're starting our tour.
I'm really excited.
We're playing all the new songs, which is cool.
I'm trying to get to it.
But I promise to give you a new update.
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And get it popping. All right guys. Enjoy Trey Crowder
Next week we have Nick. I'm well, yeah I see Nick next week and we're going we'll do a full update when I'm not so fucking
Scatterbrained and stuff but this interview with Trey is awesome Trey is hilarious
You know, he's got it. He's got a cool take on life where he's from the sticks of Tennessee and he's got a liberal,
not a liberal, but like he understands both sides of the spectrum and especially with what's going on with the deportation and stuff.
I thought this was the perfect time to get Trey on the podcast to kind of line line up
the seriousness of what's going on in the world, but also like
Yeah, some good points because he understands both sides of the coin, you know when we live in this echo chamber
It's hard to see both sides and I feel like we the the the conversation we had
The conversation we had brings light to that.
And I hope you like it, too. And also, he's funny as hell.
And he's just get to know him as a person was really cool.
Because I've been admiring all his Instagram stuff for ever.
And he's blowing up right now.
So it was nice for him to share some time.
All right, guys, I got to go play the 930 club.
But I love you. Stay safe. Stay happy. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do anything
because they're wrong. You could do whatever the fuck you want. Work hard at
your dreams. Stay inspired. Never let anyone tell you you can't do anything
because they're wrong. You could do everything. But save a little energy for
yourself when you're burnt out.
I think that's one thing that I've been realizing.
I've been saving more energy for myself.
That's why I haven't been getting burnt out as much.
Like I'm working more than I ever have.
But when I'm feeling tired, I'm going to bed now.
Or when I'm feeling tired, I'll take, I'll just cancel something.
I never used to do that.
You're in control, people.
And that's all I'm saying. So don't forget that you're in control. All right. I never used to do that. You're in control people and that's all I'm saying so don't forget that you're in control. Alright I love you, enjoy Trey
and I'll see you next week with Nick and I haven't talked to Nick in a while so
I hope he's doing good. I'm kind of worried he's I he's gone rogue on me so
if you're hearing this Nick I love you and I'm not firing you.
All right, bye.
Trey, how you doing?
I'm doing good, what's up fellas?
You are our political advisor for the 2025 year
on the Andy Frasca World Saving Podcast.
We'd like to know what the fuck is going on
with the country right now.
Oh, I mean, shit, I don't know, I can't, uh, I can't, I can't.
I'd sooner last. So the moon and try to appropriate
a lot of, a lot of bullshit, a lot of turbulence, uh, you know, a lot of,
I mean, no calm waters. Everything's fine. Everybody's doing good.
Yeah. Freaking out. Losing any sleep at night or nothing like that. But yeah,
I mean, I don't know. Could be teetering on the brink of complete economic collapse.
Who's to say, you know, we'll just, we'll just all just see how it goes.
Yeah.
Right.
Mosy and on, you know, happens.
Do you have a different sense for the Southern?
Where, where'd you grow up?
Trey?
A town in Tennessee called Salina.
It's, um, I don't know if you, so halfway between Tennessee called Salina. It's I don't know.
So halfway between Nashville and Knoxville.
OK. And up on the Kentucky line.
So yeah, but in the middle, like there's yeah.
Middle Tennessee, Northeast Middle Tennessee.
That's so Tennessee is divided into East, Middle and West.
Yeah, it's the very northeastern part of Middle Tennessee.
And it's there's no traffic lights part of middle Tennessee and it's uh there's no
traffic lights there or McDonald's or Walmarts or hope for the future jobs or anything like that.
There's not even a Walmart. Wow. They haven't come in to destroy the town yet.
Well, that I mean that would be redundant.
We can do that. Bill Clinton destroyed the town.
Bill Clinton and big pharma destroyed the town in the mid nineties. You know, Walmart just, you know, ain't got no interest in it.
How'd you get, how'd you get out there without, uh, being a real redneck?
Um, I was always like, I was like the smart kid in my school.
It was like, I realized looking back is
like being the straightest guy to share concert.
Like, it's not really that impressive. But I thought I was like good will hunting. When
I graduated high school, I thought it was like an act like a literal prodigy. Yeah.
And so and I'm not at all. I'm not even really that smart, but I thought I was growing up.
And so I was always like more in the book.
My dad also owned a video store in the in our small town.
It was just a converted single wide trailer with a bunch of VHS is in it.
They rented. But like, so I was more like well read.
I liked books and I liked, you know, like movies with subtitles and all that gay shit,
you know, all that.
And uh, so I was just always kind of different in that.
Plus I didn't, uh, I didn't grow up in church because my dad was also God, but he was like
a Godless long hair, dope smoking, jean jacket, redneck guy.
And he, um, so I didn't grow up in church.
He was real, you know, rock and roller type dude.
And, um, so I was, I didn't grow up Christian or anything.
And I was into all these other, all this other stuff.
And so I was just kind of different the whole time I was there, you know, I
knew, I knew I was, I was one of those people in whole time I was there, you know, I knew I knew I was I
Was one of those people in a town like that like as a kid like I just was basically counting the days until I could leave
forever
Pretty much. Yeah, I'm from Indiana. I had the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, I grew up in LA the same thing. What's that? What do you?
What are you? Oh really? Yeah, what's a what do you think that is? Why do we always want to leave the hometown?
Uh, I don't know.
Well, in my experience, I think it's something to do with the type of person.
I don't know if it's just how you're wired, but cause like, you know, in my
experience in the small towns, it's there's two types of people, really.
There's the type of people like, I guess we all are the people who can't wait to
leave, but then there's also, there's the people who, you know, never ever leave
and have no intention on leaving. And then, so also, there's the people who, you know, never ever leave and have no
intention on leaving.
And then so, and I don't know what the difference is.
Like my wife is from a different small town in Tennessee.
It's like four hours away, but culturally it's the exact same place.
And we live in Los Angeles actually with our sons, but every she's from a huge redneck
family in Wayne County and every other single member of her
family lives within like a five mile radius of each other.
Oh yeah.
You know, in the town that she grew up in and then she's the lone weirdo out here on
the coast.
But it's like, it's just one or the other.
I feel like you either have no interest in going anywhere.
Somehow you like are possessed of a certain wanderlust or even if it is, even if it's
I don't, I don't even think I have like wander lust necessarily, but I just wanted to get
the hell out of there.
It could be anywhere.
Yeah.
It could have been anywhere.
Yeah.
Just one place.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's like, you know, heads Carolina tails, California.
It's like, like that.
What I am growing up.
Sounds like a Sturgill Simpson.
Yeah, it sounds like a Sturgill Simpson song.
Yeah.
So what's the, what's the difference between like, did you have like, what was your childhood?
Like, was it, was your, any drug problems in the family?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Like what?
Like math or what?
Not great, buddy.
But you know, well, I mean, my dad was my dad, my dad was awesome. Like in terms of
he was a there and he was like a very loving father and all of that. But I mean, we were,
like I said, my, my whole tent, not just my family, my whole community got like absolutely
decimated in the nins because literally I said,
Bill Clinton, but you know,
whoever was the president would have signed NAFTA, but it had to be Bill
Clifton, but Bill Clinton, but then NAFTA it was signed in the factory
in my hometown left in the economy crash and that happened at the
same time that oxycontin got introduced and that was during the
era when doctors were literally telling people because the doctors
were being told by the
Pharmaceutical companies that you know, this is a miracle drug
That's not addictive and all this stuff and it just it was way out of hand before anybody ever really knew what was going on
And all that happened at the same time
There's a perfect whirlwind like my mom my mama got hooked on pills and she also was selling them
She got caught because she wasn't the shrewdest criminal and she went to jail multiple times and I was, she wasn't around really when I
was a kid. And then I had multiple cousins, my aunt, uh, one of my uncles, multiple first
cousins have, you know, died over the years. Um, my mom's still around and out of jail
and clean for now, but she's, she's still wild as hell up in
other ways. But, um, and my dad was great, but he, you know, he liked to party. He was
a drinker and a weed smoker, but he was still a really good dad. But then he got sick and
then he ended up, uh, I mean, he died when I was in my twenties. Uh, but so, you know,
how tough was that? How tough was that as someone like, he was like the father, he was
the family figure in your life.
And at 20, it's a hard time to see your dad pass away.
Yeah, well in my 20s, I was 26, I think specifically.
But yeah, but still, I mean, yeah, it was pretty, you know,
it definitely wasn't a breeze, but I had, you know,
I'm white trash, I had kids early,
so I had two little boys at that time.
I mean, they were lit my oldest.
They're 13 months apart.
So at the time my dad died, my oldest son was like a year and a half.
And the other one was like a little bitty baby, like a newborn.
And so I didn't have kind of the luxury of allowing it to fuck me up too much.
I mean, don't get me wrong. It still fucked me up.
I definitely was like drinking a lot after the kids went to bed and that type of thing. But like, I couldn't,
like it really derailed my little sister for a little while, for sure. When our dad died,
but like I had babies, so I had to keep my shit together at least somewhat, you know, the pills or coke.
No, I mean, I've done at various times, just about everything. Well, I mean, no, that's, I think at all kinds of wild best drugs, but I've done both pills and coke over the years, but not,
not really, honestly, I've always been kind of disappointed in cocaine. I've,
maybe I've only ever gotten bad shit, but I've always found it to be like over hyped in my opinion
but pills are pretty great, but I
But I know but I you know, I've seen enough to know better than to fuck with them
Yeah, I mean so like but but those I get how I get how people lose their teeth and family and everything
Because I mean those are sure do make you feel good.
But yeah.
What do you think people,
what do you think attracts people to pills?
Like they're just trying to get away.
I mean, the story at the time,
like what my mom said,
and again, my mom said there's a lot of shit,
but the way she tells the story is a very common story
that a lot of people have from
that era in that region is that she was working at the factory that was soon to disappear.
And while she was working there, she hurt her back working at the factory.
She went to the doctor with a back problem.
And he said, there's this new miracle drug called OxyContin or whatever.
It's like, we'll treat your pain, but you can't get addicted to it or whatnot.
And he prescribed it to her and then it was off to the races after that.
And so it's like people, a lot of people really did get kind of
tricked into it back then.
Um, now.
Hey, you know, it's also, it's been proven at this point that the
pharmaceutical companies targeted like kind of, uh, you know, it's also it's been proven at this point that the pharmaceutical companies targeted by kind of
You know sort of desperate and yeah low-income sort of area low-income. Yeah areas that are, you know, not
Not possessed of a surplus of hope or anything Yeah, so they're just drugged and yeah
and so
People are you know, they just want any kind of release or something. Even if you do know that it's addictive and bad,
it's like better than this, you know,
when you're in a place like that.
Right.
So, it's a lot of raises.
Plus, I mean, like I said, man,
it makes you, you know, makes you fucking feel good.
It does feel amazing, yeah.
What about the, do you think that same philosophy
is happening with the state of our government right now?
Like people have, like, I'm trying to curious
how we got to this point in our society.
Yeah well kind, I mean I don't know about if it's the same philosophy but I think
there's like a, it's related to all of that because I mean when I like went my
hometown, the county that I'm from, Clay County, Tennessee, in every election, every general election up through
2000, up until 2004, was a blue county. Like it went for Al Gore in 2000. It was always like a
blue county prior to that. Now it's like, you know, one of the most heavily tilted and MAGA's favor,
you know, counties in the state of Tennessee.
And it's, it's because of like, or it's at least in part because of all that shit that
we just talked about that happened there to those people.
They're fucking upset about it.
Like, you know, and I get that now I don't get why they believe Donald Trump is actually
going to do anything to you know, um,
Ameliorate any of that stuff but they you know
He's like they're in desperate need of a champion of any kind and then he showed up and
Pretended to be that and people bought into it. I don't think but you know that I mean there's it's
Very fucking complicated and there's a lot more to it than just that but I think at at least in towns like mine, that's a big element of it.
You know, why do you think Donald Trump specifically was so effective at that
compared to other Republican candidates?
That I, I mean, I was just yesterday, I was talking to another guy about that.
That has confounded me from the very beginning because it's not like Donald
Trump came out of nowhere in 2016.
Donald Trump had been famous for being a rich douchebag
Yes 40 years before that right or 30 years or whatever
So like he was a known thing and I know that none of them would ever admit it now
But I know for a fact that before Donald Trump got really into politics and came after Obama and stuff before that happened
every redneck in my hometown would have classified him as a like
blue blood, silver spooned Yankee who thinks he's better than everybody else.
Which he is.
Everybody else that needs his ass whipped.
I know. But I'm saying they they hate.
He was the exact type of
carpet bagger asshole that like they hated more than anyone on earth.
Right. Like a big city rich guy like that.
And like, he was not, not their type of guy.
And then suddenly he's there, you know, God King.
And I mean, I don't, all I can figure is like I said, he was saying the right
things at the right time and he was the only one saying them, you know?
And also he was, say, where are you going about him?
He fucking broke the mold politically.
No other politician had ever been or has ever been like Donald Trump in that way.
And I guess it was a breath of fresh air to them.
He was talking shit.
He was saying things you're not supposed to say, you know?
And it was just, he was talking shit. He was saying things you're not supposed to say, you know, and it was just, he was
talking shit about the politicians that these people blamed for everything that
happened in their lives and going after them and they were just like, I don't know.
It just, it just worked.
But I, but I still, I, I still think that that's wild that it did work in spite of
all that, but what about, you know, you grew up,
what changed your way of thinking liberally
coming through these, I guess the blue town,
it was a blue town your whole life.
But like, were you getting flack
for like when you started posting those videos about,
oh yeah, fuck, like what was, yeah,
give me some of that heat.
Oh, I mean, I'm, I think mostly a pariah in my hometown.
Interesting.
Cause like if you drive in, you drive into my hometown and it's like, there's a, there's
like a sign on the way in there's two sides.
There's like a big sign when you get into clay county and then there's no sign when
you get into Salina, Tennessee.
And when you get into clay county, it says welcome to clay county, at least it did for
years.
I don't know if they've changed the sign now, but for years it said, welcome to Clay County home of the world record small mouth bass,
right? Which is true, but that was called in Del Hall Lake better. And then that when
you get into the town says, welcome to Salina, Tennessee, home of the 1994 national marbles
champion, right? Yeah. And there's, and my, I got a buddy who's an aspiring actor in LA
and he's been in some like network procedurals
in CIS and that type of thing.
He's like a big expert in guy.
And that anytime he's in something like that, it's like that we have a small newspaper in
my hometown.
It's like front page news.
When we got a subway sandwich shop in my hometown, it was front page above the fold news.
I'm saying all this to say I have have never my existence has never been acknowledged in the newspaper.
I'm like, so I've never wrote good or bad.
They haven't shit talking me either, but they've not even like
I've been on HBO multiple times and all this shit.
And I and I don't care.
I'm just saying there's definitely a reason for it.
Right. Is that like they're not they if they were on board with me,
they would be lauding
me all the time because there's not a lot going on.
Yeah.
You know, you're the most famous.
So like, is that offensive?
So that would be that would be a thing.
Do what?
Does that offend you?
We all want love in our hometown, you know?
Yes, kind of.
It sort of does because it's like because there's a lot of people that I need people.
I grew up with people that I know feel like betrayed by it or whatever.
But the people who know me, like I said earlier, like I was always the kind of
like weirdo sort of, you know, lefty ish kids, even in height.
Like I was always that way.
And they knew that.
And they just sort of like either rolled their eyes out at her shrugged it off.
It's like, Oh, that's just tray for you.
But they were still my friends though.
But I don't know why any of them would ever be surprised by the shit that I say, you know,
and I feel like it's disingenuous when they act surprised by it or upset by it.
But you know, and then like they also like ABC
nightline or one of those shows did a, like a piece, a little segment about
my hometown with, and me and they filmed it in my hometown and everybody
in slant, I got real mad about that because they said it like, uh, it
made that I made the town look bad in that segment.
And I was like, no, I think the cameras made the town look bad
because they captured how it looks.
Yeah. It's the HD of it all.
Yeah. Like I'm not.
That's not my fault.
You know, but anyway, but like some people got upset about shit like that.
So, yeah, it's just, you know, it's a whole thing.
But I don't I mean, since my.
Meemaw dad last year,
I don't really have my sister and my estranged mother,
my sister, who I love very much, lives in a town called Cookville,
45 miles away, which is like, yeah, it's like an actual town.
You know, like it's got like fucking
chain restaurants and a college and shit.
So it's not so bad.
She lives there.
And now that me ma is gone, like I don't really, I, I don't know that I'll, I might not ever
go back to Salina is what I'm saying.
Like it's very possible.
Yeah, really.
I don't really have anybody left there.
Drawing you there.
Do you have friends out there still?
No.
Yeah, I still got some of my best friends in the world still
live in the region. They live in the upper Cumberland, but they don't live in actual
Salina and that's what I mean. So like they all, they all live sort of around Cookville.
Everybody go like you go to the big city. Don't go to like an actual big city off somewhere
like I did, but you still want to get the hell out of Salina. You go to Cookville. And
so that's where most of my good friends and my sister and everybody they live in cook bill actually
And that's where I went to college. So like I um, like I've loved cook bills great
So, I mean I'll definitely you know, go back there and see people Tennessee Tech
So what were Christmas like you started popping off talking your shit about the town and you're like, oh fuck
Here's trade walking this Christmas. Well the thing I mean, you know And you started popping off talking your shit about the town and you're like, Oh, here's, here's Trey.
Christmas.
Well, the thing, I mean, you know, I mean, to get my family has been in shambles
since before, since before I got known or got a following, like I was doing
standup, but like that, first of all, to be clear, if my family had been still
together and everybody was alive and we were having
holidays and stuff, they would have loved it.
My Uncle Tim is still kicking and he's my biggest fan.
My sister loves it.
My family is fully on board with it.
My wife's family, my in-laws, they're great too, but they're more apolitical.
We just don't really talk about politics and that type
of thing when we're at her house on the holidays, she has some extended family
members, her aunt and uncles and stuff like that, who are, you know, they're
not fans of the whole thing, but they don't, they don't get in my face about
it or nothing, cause it's also a small town, Southern shit.
So it's like people aren't nobody's drinking or nothing.
So it's like, yeah, nobody's getting drunk and getting loosened up enough
to start talking shit to the liberal queer nephew.
They don't drink at Christmas in the South, Andy. They don't know.
Is that all?
It's no, it's yeah, it's very much in my experience.
It's very much a thing. I've always like.
Uh, I've always like.
I've always sort of been a little jealous.
I know that sometimes it goes to shit, you know, I've seen the bear, but like,
but I've always been kind of jealous of like families in the Midwest or the Northeast, I guess, maybe out here to do that.
Like, they all get together and they like party and have a good time.
But in the South, I mean, you know, you get together, you watch football
games and everybody loves each other.
If you're lucky, that's all there.
But like, there's no like part and all these dudes, they all do.
Like every man in my family was a borderline fucking drunk, but like, uh, but
you just, you don't do it in front of me, ma or whatever type of thing, you know,
so he's instead.
Sure.
Yeah.
Or it's like, you just drink when like sort of been secret
or with your buddies down at the gas station where you're
hanging out and stuff, but not with the family.
Cause that's like, I don't know, sacred or something.
I don't know what it is, but no, people don't really do it.
It's very funny how Southern culture
is this whole idea of like coming together,
coming together, and then they're all just hiding
their alcoholism, you know?
Oh yeah.
It's like, do you feel like it's fake?
Like people are just-
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It gets the point.
Oh yeah.
You know, when you have conversations around town,
like they're all being so nice to your face face and then you can tell they're talking shit.
The polite.
Oh God.
Yeah, man.
Absolutely.
It's, it's like a known thing.
Everybody knows, you know, bless your heart is really shit talking.
Everybody knows that now the secret is out, but like in my hometown, there
were, um, I remember my mom's friend had this t-shirt that she bought it like a local store in town
That it said it had like two women
Like like sort of like with their hands in front of their mouth like they were whispering behind their hands like to each other
And it says Salina, Tennessee
There ain't much to see but what you hear sure makes up for it
So what that was referencing was that all the gossip, like, it's like they're proud
that they were proud of like, at the time, the level of gossip and backstabbing shit
talk and everything that went on around there.
And it was like part of the culture.
And but again, face to face at the grocery store, it's like all smiles and oh honey,
how are you and all that.
And it's like, very much very, a lot of hypocrisy with, you know, a lot of the church
goers there, that's the known part of it too.
There's like jokes about it.
Like, you know, why do you, uh, why do you only ever go fishing with at least two
Baptists, right?
Because if you go with only one, he'll drink all your beer, right?
So if you have, if there's two, they won't drink in front of
each other. So it's like, this is all like very real stuff. So, um, yeah, it's definitely toxic
in a lot of ways. Is that why you wanted to get the fuck out of there? Cause you've, you're an
honest guy. I just, I mean, I do, I'd like to think that I am an honest guy, but I'll, and so, but I
just, uh, I feel like a lot of, said, you know, I mentioned the church aspect.
I feel like a lot of that comes from the Christianity part.
It's like baked into like being a good Christian means you can't do this shit openly, but then
it's night people just do it anyway, but in sacred.
And I never had any of that because I didn't go to church.
And so I always was bothered by that part of it and I
always thought that it was kind of bullshit but also like I just you know I just thought like I'm
a I'm a I'm not supposed to be I'm a cultured artiste you know I'm a man of the world.
Let's go baby let's go Tennessee Tech graduate you got an MBA.
Yeah right yes that's true yeah but I just you know yeah I Yeah. Right. Yes, that's true. Yeah. But I just, you know,
yeah, I have a LinkedIn.
No, I'm just kidding.
Okay. I used to have a day job at the, when I first started standing up, I worked for the
federal government actually. So even if I stayed at that job, it'd probably be over about right now.
I imagine. But anyway.
What's the difference between fakeness in the south and fakeness in LA?
It's funny you say that I um I tried to do kind of a bit about that
At one point where it's because it is that it is all yet
Yes, no it is but it's like I
Don't know I feel like out here a lot lot of the fake news is more centered on, on like
yourself, like the way people like meaning like who you, what you're doing
and what you got, everybody wants to talk about like some shit that they might do
or hope to do or whatever, you know, and like that type of thing, or like try to
make them out themselves out to be a bigger deal than they are. That kind of fakeness where it's like,
in the South, there's no, I don't know,
it's not really about that, it's just about, you know,
thinking I'm a better person than you.
Oh, right.
Right, right.
Like they wanna stab you and bleed you out.
Not your career.
Not your career.
Not your career, yeah.
It's not a status thing, it's like I'm,
morally speaking, or in the eyes of the Lord, I'm, I'm a morally speaking or in the
eyes of the Lord or whatever. I'm a better, I'm like, I'm a better person than you. And
out here, it's like, I'm doing better than you, you know? Uh, but you know, I don't know.
That's an element. I tried to, I tried to like draw these parallels between the LA and
the South cause I tried to do this whole thing about how, and it's been a long time, so I'm
going to butcher it now, but it was something like in both places, there's huge chunks of people who live their entire lives
under the delusional belief that a higher power is going to select them out of everyone else for,
you know, something more like a, you know, some big, some bigger existence or something like that
is trying to, you know, the whole like show business and Christianity and how they're both bullshit type of thing but
it literally never worked out here because either wasn't that good or also
just too close to home for people I don't know yeah I didn't like being
compared to fucking Baptist you know when they're like right yeah no we're
we're artists yeah people are we're also gonna talk shit behind your back
Or we're also gonna drink a hundred beers at six o'clock when grandma's not looking. Mm-hmm
Mm-hmm, but they're not as concerned with being me most favorite. Yeah, that's true
That's actually true
Yeah, what are you? So you're from here? I grew up in
West Hills, Calabasas. I'm in a band. So we're musicians. We tour 250 shows a year.
We're on the road for like every day. And I left LA. Kind of the reason the passive
aggressiveness was insane. It's like this whole, they're like, they're not, they don't
support you. You know, they come out, you know, they'll, they'll, everyone is not listening to you.
Everyone's one up in each other. It's just kind of, it was kind of, what's your app.
They kind of don't want you to do well. Yeah. They don't want you to really hide it.
Yeah. Like when a dog has like,
doing well, they feel worse about themselves or whatever. Uh, that type of thing.
This is why I'm fucked up, Nick. thing. This is why I'm fucked up Nick. Yeah, this is why I'm fucked up
Yeah, like rising tides do not lift all ships in LA
Yeah, true. No, but but they do haven't said you know, and again you already said your friend you grew up here
You couldn't wait to get out but it's like
You know for me compared to
Salina and everything that happened there whatever like this is fucking Elysium.
Like I, you know, I made it back.
I grew up in my dad's video store and stuff,
like literally dreaming of moving to Los Angeles.
So like-
Yeah, tell me about that.
Like what, when was the first dreams
of you wanting to do this?
I mean, I never really wanted to do anything else.
I didn't know what it meant to do this, but it's like I said,
because I grew up in my dad's video store.
I just always knew that I wanted to do like I'd watch these movies
and stuff.
It's like I wanted to do that whatever that is.
But then and I was like, I mean, I know exactly when it became
like comedy specifically.
I was 12 because that was 1998 because it was
Chris Rock's special Bigger and Blacker came out
and it's got, there's a bit on there.
My dad, my mom was like in jail at the time or whatever,
but dad's raising us and that's the special
where Chris Rock has a bit on it
about how everybody always talks about mom
and how great my mom is and nobody gives a fuck about daddy
and all daddy gets a big piece of chicken and all this stuff. And my dad was just, I mean, loving that shit.
And a lot of comedians have a similar story
about like seeing their dad really crack up at something
or really love some kind of comedy shit.
And that's exactly what happened.
I like that night, I'm watching that.
That's when I was like, okay, that specifically,
I think I could do that or want to do that. So that was sort of the beginning of it. But that was when I was like, okay, that specifically, I think I could do that or want to do that.
So that was sort of the beginning of it.
But that was when I was 12.
And I started from that point on, I started keeping like, notes of ideas that might work
for comedy bits and stuff.
But I didn't actually get around to trying it because I was in the even when I was in
college at Cookville, I was in the middle of fucking nowhere.
There's no comedy club in Cookville.
There wasn't even at that time, there weren't even any like open mics, like for anything, music or poetry or comedy or nothing. So I didn't start until I got out of
grad school and moved to Knoxville for that day job in 2010. And I was 24. And that's when I started.
But by that time, I had a whole big backlog of things I wanted to try. And I'd spent my life
like thinking about it. So I kind of hit the ground running pretty well with it.
So yeah, when you got, when you're holding all these jokes, you don't know if they're
funny or not.
How intimidating was the first time you went into like a comedy store?
Crazy.
Give me that whole situation.
I didn't, I didn't even know, even though I wanted to do comedy since I was a kid and
I was a big comedy nerd and fan, I still didn't know.
I was like, so what?
You just go to the comedy club and it's like, I mean, yeah, you do.
That's how you get there.
Yeah. So I went to the comedy club in Knoxville,
which is no longer there. It's called SideSplitters.
They that.
I just went to a regular weekend of shows there first and just watched it and it was,
you know, great, super funny and all that.
And then I looked around at the club and I saw like a sign or something they had up.
I don't remember exactly where for their open mic night that an open mic night.
It was they only had two a month every other Wednesday.
They had an open mic night and in Knoxville at that time, that was pretty much it.
So like if you were starting, you had two nights a month where you could do it,
but they had an open mic night and I asked the manager, I was like, so did I
just, I just show up that night or what?
And, uh, they, he was like, yeah, you could call and sign up or
whatever you could just come.
And so I signed up for the next one, which was in like that was this was,
I went to like on a Saturday night and it was the following Wednesday and the three,
four days, whatever in between them.
Like I, I don't know that I've slept like three hours total in those three days.
Like I was absolutely nerve wracked because I kept because what you just
said I had more than enough. First of all, the open mics there because it was like a
small scene and everything. If I recall correctly, I think they were like eight minute sets,
which is pretty crazy. That's very long. Yeah. Most like it's Zanies in Nashville, which
is like a much, much better club. If you're like brand new to the open market that there, you get like 90 seconds.
Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. Really?
And then maybe maybe three minutes, eight minutes.
That's fucking insane.
Like a new new company or a brand new person.
Yeah. But I had plenty because I've been thinking about it all for so long.
I had no problem coming up with eight minutes, but I just kept
looking at it all.
And I kept thinking it's like, that's not even that.
Hey, that's not a joke. Like, that's a thinking, it's like, that's not even that ain't, that's not a joke. Like that's a, you know, like that's a thing
that I say that I think might be funny, but it ain't a joke. Are they supposed to be jokes?
You know, like just second guessing all of it. Uh, and nervous as hell got there, pounded like
two whiskeys or whatever. And, uh, went up there and got laughs like the first thing I had actually ended up being something that I used for a long time.
I think the very first joke I believe I ever told on stage that I ended up keeping around for a long time was something like,
it was like this, you know, I know I sound real redneck, you I'm from a real redneck town.
Like y'all don't even know like I I
Can't remember what the first two things were it was something like I can I could drink ranch dressing through a straw and all my
You know my the sleeves fall off of my shirts as soon as I put them on or something like that
Yeah, and then the last and then the last thing was uh and my mama
My mama y'all she cooks the best crystal meth you ever had in your life
and that was the very first like line i had and it uh and it killed like it did really well and
then uh and i mean that was pretty much that for me then you got the confidence yeah then i was
yeah i was hooked like pretty immediate like as as soon as that happened, I was like, yep, this is awesome.
I thought it would be and it is.
And then that, you know, now all these years later, I take a lot of it for granted,
but the that like actually killing in front of like a good crowd still is just the best.
So I'm sure you guys know.
Yeah.
And it's like that high that you keep chasing, right? Yeah, absolutely
Yeah, then I just then I just started after that. I was like, oh I'm definitely and then after that
I don't think I missed an open mic at side splitters for like the next two years or something
Oh really also and also in that time and for like the first year year and a half because at first I thought
Even though I again was had been one business, I still didn't really know shit about it.
I thought this is how it's supposed to go for the first probably year at that open mic
every two weeks.
I did a new eight minutes every time.
Holy shit.
Like I said, I had all this, I had this big backlog of shit I wanted to try, but also
I thought I was like, that's what open mics are for.
That's the whole point.
Like you're there for doing, and that's's not obviously that's not necessarily the case,
especially when you're new, you should be like, you have something that kind of works.
You should be like honing it, but I didn't know that.
So I was just writing new shit every two weeks and like, which ended up helping me a lot also.
But, um, in that first year, right.
I had nothing to do with me.
Coincidentally, this guy moved to Knoxville who started producing like all comedy shows.
So like boat shark shows in bars and things like that.
Yeah.
His name was Matt Ward.
And by, by within a year of when I started, like I said, when I very first started, if
you wanted to try standup comedy, you could go to the side splitters open mic to two Wednesdays a month.
That was it.
And within a year you could get on stat.
You could get stage time as a comedian, uh, six days a week, um, uh, a year
later because of that was actually the beginning of this new comedy boom.
And even in a place like Knoxville, it was just kind of blowing up in that more people
were doing it and more people were booking their own shows.
And don't get me wrong, a lot of those shows were like rough.
There was like, was that a swingers bar?
Oh, Andy's going to be coming.
I'm coming.
I'm coming.
I got two minutes in the swingers bar.
But it was, but it's still like, you know, it was
it was good. It was fun. I was like I was pretty, pretty good, relatively speaking, pretty immediately.
Meaning like, you know, compared to the level I was at, like for a new comic,
I was a really good new comic.
And then when I was like a host, like I was still a host,
I could not have been the headliner, but I was a really good host.
And then it kind of
It just sort of progressed from there, you know as a host, you know, you're kind of curating the night What if like, you know, you're killing it and then you just like have to hand it off to people who just fucking bombed
Then you have is it like is that what's what's your approach on that?
The bake keep keep the vibe going for like when you're hosting or following some of the bombs or following some of that bomb. Well, well, yeah, it's kind of two two
different things. If you're the host. Well, first of all, when I say when I became a host,
I mean, I was mostly I did host shows like you're thinking of and talking about where
it's like a showcase show, a bunch of different comedians doing shorter sets. But I was like
the house emceeing at side splitters. So it was mostly like, I'm the host.
There's a middle act, a feature comedian, and then the headliner.
These two are like professionals here at the club.
And so like they were, they're all, you know, good.
Yeah.
But like, but I have done shows that like you're talking about where to
showcase, there's a bunch of people and I'm hosting it and some of them are
terrible and it's like you try to
Get one quick line in off of something they say or just sort of knowledge what happened and make it funny
but then just keep but then just move on because it's kind of a faux pas in the comedy world to
Still some people do it, but it's kind of a faux pas for the hosts to you do your set up top
But then for the rest of the show you you just get up there, you bring the one guy down, you pretty much bring the next person up.
You just keep the show moving. If a host goes up there and and then just starts doing another five minutes of material in between every comic, the other comics on the show.
What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is this fucking guy doing? So like you don't really do that scenario. You just try to keep the show going.
But following someone who bombs hard,
you know, again, you try to try to make some kind of crack
about something they said without I don't ever want to like shit talk anybody.
Really? Because like we've all bombed before.
But so like if there's something
something you could say that it looks kind of funny that breaks the ice and then just try to just get right into what you do and hopefully get
them back.
And sometimes you can, sometimes you can't, you know?
Yeah.
You ever get booked on the wrong gig and just like your material is just not hitting like
corporate gig or like, Oh yeah.
Oh, play corporate gigs.
What's the worst one?
Here comes the guy that loves taxes.
Yeah.
The what was the worst one?
The first thing that popped in my head was just because I'm just not.
As soon as I got there, I was like, why are you right for this?
Is there I get booked on show?
You probably know the Soho house. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah. I looked at the comedy show at the Soho House.
I looked on so I don't know.
It's like fancy private club.
Yeah. You know, flash hotel.
Yeah. Hollywoody people or whatever.
And it's like, I'm just not.
I'm up there doing my fucking trailer humor or whatever.
And they're just like, they're just confused the whole time.
But yeah. And then
but corporate shows.
The it wasn't the worst because it actually ended up going OK.
But the strangest probably was that I was a I was booked to do
do be the entertainment and a little private party for just the board
of directors of Al Gore's company.
Oh, wow.
And it's like so it's 12 people.
Oh, my God. Long dinner table.
Right. So there's just 12 people sitting at their table
and I'm standing at the head of it telling jokes.
Right. Oh, my really fucking weird.
But just a weird setup.
I mean, but Al Gore, like, introduced me.
So everybody knew what was about to happen.
Oh, and he said, he said, like, I love this guy.
I think he's so great. Whatever.
So I think from that point on, all those people were never going to not laugh at me.
They have to understand I'm saying the guy invented the internet because the boss,
the boss guy was like, signed off on me.
Yeah. Way corporate culture is they were they were always going to be like,
Oh yeah, that guy is great.
Even if they were like, what the fuck is this shit?
So, so that one actually went okay.
But I've done corporates.
Like I did the national trial lawyers convention.
I was entertainment at that.
They could not have given the less of a fuck.
Yeah.
That's usually what happens at the corporate shows is also the people who book them,
they don't know anything about like comedy at all. You're
in like a brightly lit conference room. That's like the PA system is shitty. Like their people
are around round tables. So half of them have their back to you. Like stuff like it's just
not set up right. And also comedy ain't like music and like everybody get down to music, you know,
here, like, like even if it's just a background thing for them, it's like, Oh, that's no one's
like, what the fuck is this? If somebody starts like, you know, giant playing some live music,
you gotta be awful for that to happen. Yeah. Right. But yes, as long as they're good. But
as it is, but for comedy though, it's like, you really gotta sign up for that. Like you
really gotta be, you gotta know that comedy should not happen to a crowd right and sometimes
it kind of does and it's very rare that it works in that scenario because people
you know people have to be in the right mood for it it can't they can't just be
accosted with surprise comedy which is what so many shows used to be I bet and
so watch the game.
Oh that.
Yes.
You do.
Volunteers are on.
They had the damn game on like with the sound on.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
We were watching it while you're up there.
Just start talking about your dick or whatever.
I got a sidebar question, uh, thinking about LA.
Um, do people stereotype you because of your Southern accent
that you're just like a Trumper and you're like.
Yeah, what usually happens,
they're kind of subtle about it,
but I know for a fact that's what's happening.
It's the way it usually goes.
Cause I take a lot of Ubers and shit like to the airport
cause I'll fly out of one and into a different one.
So I can't park or whatever. So I'm like, so I take a lot of Ubers and lifts and shit like to the airport because I'll fly out of one and into a different one so I can't park or whatever so I like so I take a lot of ubers and lifts and shit like that. If people hear
immediately as soon as they hear my accent like where are you from and I was like I'm from Tennessee
originally and then if they then go like oh man I love Tennessee I've actually been I've been
thinking about moving to Tennessee right I, I'm like, oh, yeah
If they say that I'd usually know that they're about to start like testing the waters. Yes
Yeah, exactly they're not
Man all these goddamn homeless around here
I swear to God this video this fucking but ever nobody wants to work anymore. Yeah, I'm all over the place all that time
There's our sailing like I hate the blacks. Yeah
That hardcore with it lady did hit me with that in Denver really the black well
She said black eyes matter was ruining them, which is what she told me. Yeah, but and it was
It's I know that it's because they hear my accents and then I say I'm from Tennessee and they're like this guy's probably cool
Openly racist we actually did a me and the guys I toured with Cory and drew who are also liberal southern comedians
We we did a a series of sketches for Comedy Central digital like I'm new central's online their YouTube channel and
One of the sketches was actually that was like the premise of it was like
people in bars, hearing our accent and taking that as a license to then just,
you know, be racist and funny because it does happen a lot.
Do you get death threats?
Yeah. I mean, I definitely, I mean, I, I'm sure I do.
I stopped like reading most all of that a long time ago because I was
it wasn't just like death threats.
It was also like, you know, shit about my wife and kids or that sort of thing.
Oh, fuck that was way beyond the pale.
You can call me whatever.
Sorry, you want.
I don't really give a fuck.
But like that was too much.
So like I don't
like DMS and shit like if I get like on Instagram DMS and stuff if there's if it's from
Somebody with a check mark or something, you know, yeah, like I'll be like, okay, what's this about her?
It's like you can kind of see the yeah the beginning of the mess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
It's all sort of judging on that if it seems to be some shit talk is a little queer that type of thing
I just don't yeah, I just don't open it
Like a nice greeting. Yeah, that's how we say hi to our friends. That is I mean, yes, that's true, too
But I don't know these exactly exactly. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, no, you say that to your buddy. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah, that's I love you where I come from. Yes
Absolutely. So like when you're touring these southern
these southern markets, do people like that don't know your
comedy? Like are they offended or? Because everyone's so sensitive now when you talk politics
in comedy, right?
Yeah. So mostly, so my, you know, mostly the people who come to my shows are like fans of mine, which means that they're like on board
every now and then
people will show up just to watch a comedy show which to me is crazier than you'd think because
like as a comedian that blows my fucking mind that
Because comedians are so different and comedy so subjective. Mm-hmm. Like I would
Never because they have to buy a ticket, you know, like that. And so I would never buy a ticket for a comedian without at least doing a
cursory Google or whatever, you know, I didn't like to see, cause it's not hard
to do, I mean, you could figure out what I'm about pretty immediately if you look
me up and, but, but people do it. People show just for a date night or
whatever. Just buy it. Let's go see a comedy show. Don't even look up who the
comedian is. It happens to be me. That's insane. And sometimes no, it is. I don't
even feel that bad about it because I'm like, what the fuck? What is wrong with
you? You would do like that's just to me. That's a crazy move. But it um, But it does happen and they you know, sometimes every now and then especially depending on where i'm at
It's like a delightful surprise to this person, you know every now and then like luck of the draw. They're like
They love it. I had no idea you were but that
That was right up my alley and other times. They're, fuck this. I want my money back and relief.
Yeah.
Or they they walk off.
Oh, yeah. It's called walking, walking tables.
Or walking people is what we call it.
Yeah. You can, you know, but you could walk half the crowd sometimes.
But really not just if you're good enough.
Not for I mean, it happens, but not usually on my tour or my show.
Because then there's not that, that, that
most it's a table or two of people like this who don't know who I am. And again, sometimes
they like it. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes even they don't like it. They just, they like
sit there cross armed and which is worse than leaving. I agree. That's why I was about to
pass. Rather you'd leave, just get up and fucking leave. If you're just going to sit
there in the front row staring at me
Giving me the stink. I the whole time, right?
but
Yeah, you never know. It's like I said, I just don't
It's just it's just a wild move to me and this in this era I get like back in the day
I get the expectation let's go to the comedy club and funny stuff will happen first thing
You know, I am saying funny stuff. It's just like you said, people are sensitive to certain things.
And I don't even talk, I don't do just political comedy either, by the way. I'd say only 10, 15%
of my act is political in nature, but I do talk about it a little bit. And the stuff that I talk
is, you know, pretty clear which side I'm on. to some people that's just like a deal breaker.
It's like even if they would be, they would love, I've had people say on the internet and comments
and shit, like not fans, obviously the people see my stuff that say versions of like, I want to like
this guy so bad because I'm from the south and I love his accent. A lot of his like southern references
and that type of thing are just so spot on and
great, but he's just such a fucking idiot or whatever. He's just so wrong about everything,
like that type of thing. That's such a southern post. Yeah. You know, it's like,
oh bless his heart. He's such a sweet guy, but fuck this guy. I've also noticed that people are like,
keep politics out of it,
as long as it's not their politics.
Right.
They don't mind if politics are in it if they agree,
but if they're not in it...
They want the politics to be in it.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, right.
Well, this is the problem with the echo chamber of social media.
You know, I'm glad you're not listening to that shit.
You know, because everyone just listens to what they want to hear
and nothing else, so no one is actually having conversations with how other people who don't agree with you act.
I think that's the problem with society right now is no one's listening to the other side.
Mm hmm.
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
I definitely think the bubbles that people live in are a real big problem and it's not just social media.
I mean, cable news and shit, podcast and all that.
Like schools, people, people curate their own reality now. And it's not just social media. I mean, it's like cable news and shit podcast and all that like schools
People curate their own reality now and then it used to be possible
Really? We all like shared a reality for unless you were right schizophrenic or something
But now your reality can be whatever you want it to be
I mean like whatever you like want to believe you can find sources for that that will like
Back that up for you and will agree with you and that's what people do and yeah, I think it's a huge problem
I try to you know, I follow I don't even get I honestly I don't even really use social media
But that much anymore like I post on it, but I don't
get I don't spend much time on it, but
When I did like I went out of my way to follow people that like I don't spend much time on it, but when I did, like I went out of my way to follow people
that like I don't agree with or like, because to me it's like, hell, you should at least
want to kind of keep tabs on them.
Shouldn't you?
Like, you don't know.
I mean, like, like I want to know what's going on over there.
Keep your enemies close.
Yeah, right.
Your friends close and your enemies closer or whatever they say.
Yeah.
So I don't, I've never really understood the desire to just surround yourself with
like, you know, only shit you agree with all the time, but it's definitely a real thing.
And yeah, I think it's like, I think it's a pretty major problem, really.
But I don't know how to fix it.
I feel like that genie is kind of out of the bottle, you know.
So I don't know.
You keep de-stereotyping Southern culture.
That's what you gotta do.
That's what you're doing, bro.
They think you're like some redneck fucking Republican
and you're throwing it on their face,
like saying, stop judging books by its cover.
We all have different opinions, right?
Yeah, I know that is my kind of,
I don't consider myself as having these kind of real mission,
but a lot of times my more liberal fans and stuff will think
that like what I'm they think that like what I'm trying to do is like
change people's hearts and minds. Right.
And it's like, but they mean
get some other like MAGA redneck to change their way, you know, to see the light.
Yeah. You know, come over here.
The lights that like change their opinions politically.
But that's not I don't I know
I never think about that. That's not my because I know that that's like I know that's a lost cause exactly
And I know that so I don't care about that at all
but what I do kind of care about and I know that happens all the time because people tell me all the time is that I
do change people's opinions of like
Where I'm from or people who sound
like me. Like people, I meet people all the time at like in Portland or in LA or San Francisco
or wherever, just anywhere outside the South who are now fans of mine who say some version
of like, you know, you know, you made me kind of feel like a dick for what I thought about
the South. Cause I thought everybody, you know, I thought everybody like you was a certain
way. I didn't know that there were other types of people which to me is such an insane thing to think.
I understand it's like is everybody important? Yeah yeah yeah right yeah exactly yeah people
people it's also it's like these are always coastal liberals saying this to me they also
are completely oblivious to like how prejudice how like that's a form of prejudice. Yeah, sure
Sure, that's close. That's being closed minded which they hate right, but they don't see it in themselves
when it comes to that version of it, I'm saying I I
Just through being who I am I make some of these people see that and that I do, you know care about that
So yeah. Yeah. Well, you're doing the Lord's work brother
I'm I'm we're huge fans of you I think you're the man and I you're fucking hilarious and just keep
being you and well thanks guys I appreciate that tell those pieces of shit in LA you come to Denver
you come to Denver soon yeah we live in Denver it's weird that my buddy who lives in Denver was
just texting me today asking me when are you coming back to Denver and I told him that that reminded me I had been,
I need to check in with my agent because I've been actively working on figuring out the next
Denver date. So I mean even if we booked it today it wouldn't be until the end of this year probably.
What is it, ComedyWorks? You go to ComedyWorks? Yeah ComedyWorks is maybe the best comedy club
in the country. I agree. I love it. Yeah what's the, you know, I have a couple more questions.
I'll let you go.
I know you're busy.
What's, yeah, what's the deal with Denver Com?
Everyone loves the Denver Comedy Works.
Yeah, we're music-
What do you love about it?
Break it down for the musicians.
Yeah, break it down for musicians.
It, the room is like perfect,
like the makeup of the room and everything
and the acoustics in there.
And also it's just one of those like there's just I'm assuming
because I'm not from Denver and I only came to Comedy Works
for the first time seven, eight years ago when it was already established
as one of the best clubs in the country.
But like I assume they've just cultivated a like
clientele or whatever you want to put it there.
They're just a culture there of like just every crowd is just red fucking hot.
And that club and every comedian says the same thing
It's one of it's a club. That's like very few are like this, but it's like it's almost bomb proof
Yeah, interesting like it's just it's just it's just the atmosphere is just like crackling in there
It's like the crowds are always just great and hot as hell and it's just and the room is great
The club is great. the club is great the staff is great the management like the people that's usually that's the number one thing with
comedy clubs the people that own it and run it if they actually like and care about comedy
which i know you think like why would someone own a comedy club right fuck about comedy but it
happens all the time it's a music yeah i'm sure it does well you know they're just like business
people or whatever they don't give a fuck about the actual thing itself
But like it places like comedy works they do and you can tell and every club
I all of my favorite clubs which like comedy works. Thank you. Xanis in Nashville the DC improv
They're this small club in Burlington, Vermont the Vermont comedy club. They all heard that's great. Really? Yeah, I heard that
It is it's awesome. What about that been in the world. I think it's the only one that's been in the world. I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world.
I think it's the only one that's been in the world. I think it's that one and it's supposed to be real good to LA crowds like for you
Their hit or miss yeah, I'd say that it's actually kind of
Usually it's like it's a little divided. There's a certain so every LA show I start immediately with something about my accent meaning like I basically first thing I said to him is like this is real, right?
Because like in LA specifically on and off stage, people all the time think that this
is I'm doing a fucking character method actor who's getting ready for to, you know, to play
a possum detective or something like that.
I'm making the accent possum Possibly. So like. So.
That's so fucking LA dude.
And that happens in audiences too.
Because the audience are sitting there thinking like, because this is LA shit, like this happens
and they're like, is this like a character thing?
You know what I mean?
Like is he doing some kind of character?
So I just start with like, I'm from here, that's why I sound like this, whatever.
Like I just want you to, this is just how I am.
And then I just get into my stuff and it's like, uh, there's usually a contingent
of people in the crowd who are like, um, and I'm only counting people who don't know who I am,
like her just being introduced to this. It's usually contingent. It was like, oh, I get,
I get what this guy's thing is and I'm on board with that. Right. And they love it.
And then there's an unusually a contingent of a crowd in LA
that's kind of like, what is happening?
You know?
And so, it kind of comes down to what the ratio
of those two contingents is.
You know what I mean?
If it's like a higher level of the first group,
then, you know, it can be great.
And I can absolutely destroy.
If it's a higher ratio of the second group then it's pretty mediocre
You know I've had
Awesome shows that like the Hollywood improv and stuff and I've had real bad ones
And then I've had a lot of in between to it just depends
Yeah, our Mike one of my closest friends Todd glass and I love Todd. he's always funny he's the way he's
incredible he's a stickler about rooms like how light how the lights are I mean
I took him on tour and shit and like he opened our podcast and he did he was
putting tin foil on the lights and shit if you know he's he's like very
meticulous about all that stuff.
He's got the way he likes it for sure.
Well, Drake, thanks so much for being on the show.
I know it's been an hour.
I know you got to do your thing.
It was a good time guys.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
We're big fans.
Keep the dream alive.
I think I said, yeah.
Well, it's, you know, I like it.
So you guys are in Denver.
I don't know if you're touring or whatever, you know,
I'll come out to a show sometime. And likewise, if you want Denver. Yeah, if you're touring or whatever out, you know, I'll come out to show some yeah
and yeah, we're like wise if you go to oh totally like yeah, we're doing we do red rocks and stuff and
La we play like troubadour or love troubadour. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That was southern. So, do you know widespread panic?
Yeah, my dad my you know dad my he rested in peace was a big widespread. Hell yeah. That's our scene.
We're like, following him in the world.
We're jamming. Yeah.
Okay. Right on.
Yeah. My dad, like, you know, I don't know how many shows he went to, but like, it was a lot.
I mean, that's Tennessee and Georgia.
That's Tennessee and Georgia's fucking band.
You know? Yeah.
Yeah.
The fish of the South.
The fish of the South.
Once you get below the Mason Dixon, you're in panic. Yeah, you know, yeah. Yeah, the fish of the south the fish of the south I feel the sound once you get below the Mason Dixon. You're in panic. Yeah, you're paying Yeah, that's just you know catfish. Yeah, also
All right, buddy, thank you guys kicking ass out there. We'll be rooting you on bud
All right, but also just wanted to say cuz I'm so bad at this
I forgot to say I think anybody's listening wants to check me out a new special called trash daddy on YouTube and
I got to say, I think anybody's listening wants to check me out. I have a new special called trash daddy on YouTube.
And also if you want to see me on the road,
Trey Crowder.com is all my dates.
So there he is.
Thank you guys.
Trey.
Good luck out there, buddy.
Have a good day.
Appreciate it.
See y'all later, buddy.
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