Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 39: Magic Giant

Episode Date: March 19, 2019

While on tour thru the northwest, the U.N. and Wild Adriatic make a pit stop in Buffalo, NY. A few days off spent in seclusion naturally leads to us to some sticky situations. Travis from Wild Adriatic and Andy recap the last few days on the road and discuss mental health. With all this excitement, let's not forget about the interview hour wherein Andy sits down with Magic Giant. We get to hear about the band's plans, aspirations, and a story about a festival when things went wrong. This is Episode 39. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Keep up with our buddies, Magic Giant at magicgiant.com Check out Andy's new album, "Change Of Pace" on iTunes and Spotify Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Travis Gray Scott Hannay Andee Avila Shawn Eckels   Ahri Findling Hannah Reese  

Hey Andy, this is Hannah. Sorry, I thought this might just be the best way to talk to you about this. You know, we are so happy you guys are staying with us. We love hosting you, as you know. But I got a call from Jack's principal today, and apparently he was so excited about hearing your guys rehearsal that he taught his his friends some of the lyrics and they've been singing baby we were born to come which you know considering they're in first grade has just brought up some tough questions so you know just wanted to ask if is maybe for the rest of your visit you could you know just cut to ask if maybe for the rest of your visit you could you know just cut back

on the come lyrics a little bit that would be great again you know we love hosting you guys it's not a huge deal just you want to avoid the kids talking about come too much but yeah well anyway that's it thanks a lot I'll see you

later tonight. Take care. Bye. Hiding in the bathroom with some shady dude that I've never met. He makes hat pins and wears drug rugs He's a flow artist, I've never heard of that Hands me key bumps He's got an LLC Heavy hat pins

Just one bump and I swear I will go to bed Line after line It's the most poignant thing that I've ever said Line after line Just one bump then I swear I will go to bed Line after line. Line after line. Line after line after line after line after line after line after line after line after line.

There's got to be more, right? It's gone? It's gone? It's gone? And we're here. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. We are on a day off in Buffalo, New York. I have my co-host, our opening band for the tour,

Wild Adriotics, front man, lead guy. What do you like calling yourself? You're like a guitar player. We got Travis Gray on the building. What's up, Travis? What's up, man? It's great to be here. You like our studio?

Yeah, the studio is dope. You know how we just take over everyone's house? We're sleeping at our friend's house today and we're like, nope, we're taking this room over. This is probably the nicest podcast studio ever. Honestly, we're staring at a ping pong table and all these super fancy chairs. Expensive furniture. Expensive.

Yeah. It feels like a very Wes Anderson style podcast today. Yes. Which brings me to what this episode is all about. First off, we have Magic Giant on the show tonight. You know Magic Giant because we played with them together. We did. We spent some time together. Yes, but this is for everyone.

This is going to be... So we had this idea. We took a bunch of mushrooms last night and we decided to go fucking into the podcast level. We're going to be doing Two episodes At once So First off

You're going to hear like The regular interviews and stuff But inside That Epicness of interview We are having A rock opera It's next level

It's next level We made a rock opera Unfortunately It's next level. It's next level. We made a rock opera. Unfortunately, all the songs are about cum. Unfortunately? For all the people who are new to this podcast, who don't understand our humor. Most people know about and have some kind of relationship with cum. It's true.

It's true. So we took a bunch of mushrooms and started writing all... Let's show them a quick peek of one of the songs that made the rock opera. Try it out. Try it out. I'm on cocaine, you're on psilocybin I've been hard for hours You want to talk science, baby I'll fuck you if you suck me Please God, don't you tell me that this squirted is pee

Let's come together right now. All over me. Wow. We need to start taking more mushrooms on our days off. I really do like mushrooms though, do you? I took them now three days in a row. We killed Buffalo We just blew it out of the water

On a Sunday night It was just fucking mayhem It was absolute mayhem Those people Buffalo goes harder than most people Why do you think that is? There's something about the passion in Buffalo I don't know if it's because of the bills

And all the frustration And the sports frustration. The pent-up frustration for all their teams sucking ass. Yeah. And I think they got to jump on a table here and there just to get that out. They went crazy when we did Shout. Is that like the Buffalo drinking theme song?

I feel like it's like the Buffalo version of Sweet Caroline for Boston Red Sox fans. No, it's also bad. Not bad. It's actually wonderful. Because when we have days off, normally we never have an opener. So we're normally just us hanging out. Boring.

Yeah, we bring the band. So we have 10 people living at someone's house right now. We got Wild Adriotics band. We got our band. They've been so sweet to us. They've been feeding us. We've had like family dinners and I feel like this is how you really bond with your opening

bands. You know? Spending time together and also not being in a hotel, being in a home setting and having a home cooked meal that's delicious doesn't hurt either. Drinking and you know bonding over the mushrooms and hanging out. Oh, my God.

I'm telling you, man. I feel like I really get to know you because I get off my phone a lot. You know, when you're on the mushrooms. You don't want to be on the phone. You know, because we talked about this. Frasca, you're always on your fucking phone. You're always looking at your stats. And it's true.

Yeah. I get it. You know, it's true like yeah and like i get it you know it's just my business yeah you know i see you're not the guy who does that in your band mateo does that in your band he's like fucking just looking at analytics and looking at fucking spreadsheet i'm like he's real good man we had i ate a bunch of mushrooms in the last night and you know i went to bed early i had to take a xanax my guy got a podcast episode to drop and i got we got to do all this work for the podcast To make our rock opera

Come musical And finish everything up Important stuff for our day off But I wake up I thought I'd be the first one up Motherfucker's up before me Now it's a competition I want to be up before him

No matter what time you go to bed Mateo will always be up first You can go to bed at 6am He'll be up at me. And that's a competition. I want to be up before him working on shit. No matter what time you go to bed, Mateo will always be up first. You can go to bed at 6 a.m. He'll be up at 7.30. That's how I am too. That guy can't, he can't sleep in.

He doesn't seem that happy about it though. But like, you think, I got to fucking work on this bullshit. No, not even that. He's just like, oh, I guess I'm fucking awake now.

Is it just getting older that we... I mean, I think you get set up on a schedule your home your home he's home with his girl and she gets up early for work and uh he just wakes up with her and he sits on that schedule and then we get out of the road and it's opposite life yeah opposite schedule but he's still hanging on to that schedule maybe his subconscious is like man i miss my girl for dear life i gotta hang on to my schedule you know how let's talk about that

our schedules are different when we're at home we're not taking mushrooms on our days off no my nephew's four so like how do we are we like misidentifying what a day off is?

So maybe this is not really a day off. This is just part of our circus, our everyday circus. Yeah. And we just kind of like have to mentally just like decompress. It's mental decompression. We can't get a true day off not being home. Yeah. Even if you're in a hotel just chilling, that's not a day off.

So why? Because you just don't have the, you're not emotionally in your most relaxed spot. I only get real rest. Is that what technically a day off is? No, because this is technically a touring band's day off. No, but mentally. Mentally, the day off, I don't feel rested until I get home home, and I can really

Just mentally relax But I'm I get enough rest I'm in a zone Especially after a week of tour Yeah I have this adrenaline build up Do you get anxious

When you're home too long now? Because you've been on the road So many years Not anymore But I'm on like a plethora Of Of A cocktail

Of Antidepressants And Anti-anxiety drugs Yeah Are you and anti-anxiety drugs. Are you on anti-anxiety? Yeah, I take 20 milligrams of Prozac every day and 0.5 Klonopin every day. Why? Because I had crippling anxiety.

From what? Genetic. Completely genetic. Same here, but what do you think triggers it when it comes? Nothing triggers it anymore. It's totally random. And it's not like, oh, this thing is happening and I'm getting super anxious about it. It's just like, oh, I randomly can't breathe right now.

That's my kind of anxiety. You ever have that happen in a show? When Mateo and I were little kids kids in our teens, that shit would happen to me. I thought I was dying at the time. I didn't know what was happening. What was the worst? I didn't think I was going to be able to breathe anymore. Anyone who's ever had an anxiety attack

knows exactly what I'm talking about. You think you're dying when you have a panic attack, especially if you don't know what it is yet. Then, after you have that panic attack though, the first time it's a little comforting to know, oh, at least that's what that is. And I'm not having a heart attack and I'm not dying.

Yeah. I didn't find that out. I didn't find out what a panic attack was until I was 29. And I was having them. Yeah. I would have them. Didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was.

I thought I was dying. Yeah. Or like I thought I was having a heart attack. Or I'm like, why am I I didn't know what it was. I thought I was dying. Yeah. Or like I thought I was having a heart attack. Or I'm like, why am I getting so angry? Why am I? I thought I was bipolar. You know? And your understanding is just anxiety.

These things aren't talked about. What do you think is triggering anxiety attacks nowadays? Because I feel like anxiety attacks. I had this conversation with this European. They're like, oh, Americans. You know, anxiety doesn't exist. that's just part of your everyday that just sounds like something that somebody has never who's never experienced anxiety would say well yeah like like socialism socialists don't have too many stresses as much as it's because everything's taking care of their health care

and i'm not trying to like it doesn't have stereotype social but it doesn't help. It doesn't help to have to worry about extra stuff but if you have that underlying anxiety. Maybe it's anxiety is cause of this American dream mentality where it's like you know like they,

it's a lot of pressure. Europeans work to live and we live to work. Absolutely. Maybe that's what's causing this anxiety. This mind state And the aliens work to live and we live to work. Absolutely. We work way too much. So maybe that's what's causing this anxiety, this mind state that, you know, we always have to be out there fucking, you know, entertaining. Even if we're tired or if we're fucking, we always have to be on the road. You know, we just like. No, it's really sad, man, because I see a lot of my friends and a lot of people our age who are out there and

they're working a job they're just depressed you know and they but they have to that's just life and they're they're living to work everybody's working for the weekend you know are you depressed that you're on the road too much i'm not no i i actually love touring and i love being on the road i had this thing mostly what's called dysthymic depression, which is an underlying depression you feel. You're basically in a bad mood all the time. I'm not truly anymore. It's really helped me a lot.

But I was wondering why I was so grumpy and I was just irritable and fucking like an asshole. For like days on end? All the time since I was like a kid till I was like... Were you a bitter kid? And you didn't know why you were bitter? Well I was just an asshole

You know not like I was nice But I would be I was an asshole kid Yeah me too Yeah I don't know dude Jewish kids

Growing up So I'm an Ashkenazi Jewish Which is more prone to like a lot of things Like what? Genetically like the anxiety Like my whole family is like this Oh European Jews? Why? Because you think Which is more prone to a lot of things. Like what? Genetically, like the anxiety. My whole family is like this. Oh, European Jews? Why?

Because you think because of the hot... No, no. It's just like... Deeper? It's deep. Yeah, it's nothing to do with... It's not environment. I mean, it probably was at some point environmental.

I'm not a scientist. They're not fact-checking. Yeah. No one's fact-checking this shit. But Ashkenazi Jews are more prone to some stuff like anxiety, some skin diseases and stuff like that. You can check that out on your 23andMe, Ancestry.com shit. Yeah, I'm Sephardic Jew.

I'm like 100% Sephardic Spaniard. So I got that. I've heard about this heavy anxiety, but I think Jews are just prone to have heavy, heavy anxiety. What about your depression pills? Do those fuck you up? They don't fuck me up at all. You have to try different stuff.

I heard people, it fucks some people up. It does, and I've tried ones that, like, I tried Cymbalta before I tried Prozac, and, like, that didn't work for me. That made me feel wicked fucked up. But everybody's different. Like what kind of fucked up uh totally foggy out of it couldn't get a boner uh that's what i was gonna get yeah that that this is why we run the this is why you wrote this come on bro but it's so happy you know when you can come again you just

get so happy about it you can't stop and fucking stop writing songs why do why why does depression anti-depression pills can't make you like feel shit oh because you can't fucking stop writing songs. Why does antidepressant pills can't make you feel shit? Oh, because you can't feel shit. Duh. Well, the dick stuff is separate, I think. No, but you're not attracted. When you're on those pills, are you attracted to your girlfriend?

Oh, yeah. You can still be attracted, but the problem is it's more of like a lot of people can get... You can still get a boner, but it's more of like a lot of people you can still get a boner but there's like a delayed ejaculation with antidepressants. So it's good if people who are like. If you're coming really fast

hop on some antidepressants. Rachel will you buy me some antidepressants please for my next. No I'm just kidding. Everyone should know you know you shouldn't just give up if you try one thing and you're still feeling depressed And fucked up there's so much shit out there

Cause you feel a lot better I feel like I honestly What was the lowest point in your That you said I have to take antidepressants So what started me on antidepressants Is it was right before actually Our first rock boat in 2016 Damn

So I had just gotten out of a really bad or I was getting out of a really bad relationship. So that set it off and it was just like it made no sense and this girl was just like, well, I don't know what the fuck this is. It's crazy. I just got divorced. I just got separated and I got into this horrible relationship.

I got super depressed. Had to cancel some tour because it was so bad. What? Yeah. How many days? Like almost like a month. Did you have a meltdown at a stage? No, I had a meltdown on the phone.

I just called Mateo and I was like, I can't, dude, I can't do it right now. Was the tour already booked? Yeah. There was a show with The Revivalists on the tour. Oh my. I know, dude. Mateo wanted to fucking. Oh, my. I know, dude. Mateo wanted to fucking kill you, dude. I mean, no, dude.

He was the most supportive guy ever. My band is those guys. They got your back, dude. They fucking helped me. And I feel so much better these days. So sometimes I got to humble myself and remember how I felt then and be grateful. I'm super grateful all the time. What were you saying during this fucking depression?

You want to quit? I didn't want to quit music, but I was so distracted by my mind and by this horrible relationship that I was in that I couldn't focus on being on the road. I felt like it was going to drive me further into

a depression. We'd just gotten back from Europe. And was the shows good? The shows were good. It was a bad timing. Because you were just waking up with your girl. Yeah, it was some of that shit. But I've been depressed much longer than that.

So that just set me off. So you go through these phases in your life. Never heavy phases of depression. Just this underlying dysthymic depression all the time. Wow. And it really just popped that shit, popped the lid off that shit. Damn. That sucks.

Yeah. Travis. Damn, so you had to live like that? Keep telling yourself that, oh, this is just depression. This isn't how I really feel right now in the moment. Like when you're a kid. I didn't know that. I thought I was like, oh, I'm an irritable asshole.

That's what I thought. Oh, when you were a kid. No, until I started these antidepressants, I was like, oh my God, that's gone. So. That's gone. And you're just, oh, that's just in your genetics. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, dude's just in your genetics. Yeah. Damn.

Yeah, dude. That sucks, dude. So you found music to like kind of heal it? Yeah. Well, music, I've always loved music. And it didn't heal it, but it helped me cope through the years, I guess. I had a great, like, my mom's great. I love my mom.

Yeah, isn't that funny? I had a great, like, my mom's great. I love my mom. Yeah, like, isn't that funny? Like, even when you have this, like, great bring up from your parents and you're still depressed. Like, I felt that way, too. When I was a kid, I had all this angst. I didn't know that I was fucking depressed.

Yeah. Dude, that's the thing is, like, it's so common, though. Everybody's a little depressed. Well, not everybody. I shouldn't say that. Do you think it's because of social media? No I think that it's really hard for kids

And it creates more anxiety Or like TV generation where we're just like Oh when we're bored Look at this screen And then like if we're This is why our attention spans are so The attention span thing is really bad And that makes you depressed too

If you can't find your niche after eight seconds of looking at 25 different things. You know, and I've noticed that even to myself, dude, I can barely watch a show. I can barely get into a new show on Netflix. When I used to go to the video store, rent a movie, that's the movie you fucking get. Yeah. You know, you can't flip through a billion titles on Netflix. a billion titles on Netflix. Do you think this is why when people make records,

you only get two weeks of really longevity listening to the album? Yeah, absolutely. I think that it all ties in. I think people's attention span is much less. No one's putting... I mean, actually, it's coming back, but people used to put on records and they would listen for the

experience. That's why you got to release EPs now. Yeah. They say. It's fucking stupid. Yeah. It's music industry. You know,

it's not, it's not the music industry itself. It's just the evolution of people. It is. And it all, it's just, everything is constantly evolving. We are becoming cyborgs,

dude. Do you ever, did you, you listen to that Alex Jones thing? Oh yeah. I mean, I mean, I, you know,, did you, you listened to that Alex Jones thing? Oh, yeah. I mean. I mean, I, you know, he's like, he's like a crazy uncle. We're like, all right.

Be yelling. You got to listen to this Alex Jones, Joe Rogan podcast. I know you guys are like, oh, fuck that guy, Alex Jones. Just listen to it and just, just be open-minded. That's all. You know, like, you don't have to fucking like it. I think he's crazy as fuck too. But he opened my eyes a little bit.

I mean, we're becoming cyborgs, dude. I will say some of the stuff. Let me just say he is crazy. But some of the stuff he said is not 100% wrong. No. That's the thing. You can call somebody crazy, but not everything they say is going to be wrong. I want to get him on

the show. Oh my god. Alex Jones. I think he'd do it. I don't think he'd let you talk. It's fine. I just gotta kind of like, it's like leading a sheep into the pasture. Just let him talk. It's kind of like just guide

the thing. I did Chuck Morris. He's like the head of AEG, and he basically built Colorado. He's Don Strasberg's. He taught everything to Don. Oh, shit. And he just built everything, built the film wars. He worked for Bill Graham Presents. So he's up next week.

Hard worker. But he talks an hour and a half, and you just kind of go along with the ride. And then let the listeners observe. That's very true. Except his thing, I think, would be he would rant a bunch of conspiracy theories straight in a row. You fucking cyborgs!

They're out there! They're gonna fucking kill you! I don't care! I'm standing up! Don't fucking laugh right now! I'm serious! I'm serious, Andy Frasco. I'm serious. Oh, it's so true. What if Alex Jones was in a punk band and that was his voice? I think they would fucking slay it and sell a ton of records. I really think he should do a comedy.

Kind of like a... Who's that guy? Who's that comedian? Long blonde hair. He always used to scream. Oh, Sam Kinison. Oh, yeah. We got to make a Sam Kinison

style fucking cum song. By the way, Magic Giant's on the show. Oh, yeah. Magic Giant. You know anything about Magic Giant or did you meet them? I met them on the rock boat this year and they were really nice guys and they're fun. They climb all over shit. You know anything about Magic the Giant Or did you meet them? I met them on the rock boat this year And you know

They were really nice guys And they're fun They climb all over shit Yeah And I love that Yeah What do you think it is? Like you know

Like that guy was an American Idol right? Yeah man That's crazy The lead singer was an American Idol And did he go far? Do you know if he was? You know I'm not really sure I never

I watched the first season of American Idol And that's it Yeah But I've seen the look I've seen the pictures? You know, I'm not really sure. I never, I watched the first season of American Idol and that's it. Yeah. But I've seen the look. I've seen the pictures. Yeah. You know, it's... The bass players are the, he's acoustic time. He was my first ever bass player. Oh, wow. Brian Zoggy. That's such a small world, man. Dude, he

he watched me not like physically watched me, but we were at the same party where I lost my virginity. But we got Mad Giant on the show We got Travis and Sean's rock opera It's gonna be a heavy hit in show So we're basically gonna be a little different There's gonna be like maybe four halftimes

We're just gonna pause the interview So you can hear what Travis and Sean Have been writing at 4 o'clock in the morning last night. So what kind of themes we got? Do we have a couple songs from the 80s or the 90s? What is this opera

consisting of? Really just songs that we felt connected with the come theme. We just had to find songs that really encapsulated come. Yeah. And we found them. You did.

We found magic. I am. Should we hear one more before the interview? I think, hey, Chris, play one more. I don't wanna be a dad You depend on me when times get bad But I wanna fuck if you're still down And a river will cum About to drown Jump off Cause I'm coming

Jump off Cause I'm coming I don't wanna be a dime Jump off Cause I'm coming Jump off Cause I'm coming I'm gonna fly

Travis, thanks for being on the show. Thanks for being on the tour. Thanks for having me. Wild Adriatic, guys. These guys are dope. Go and see this tour. This is the longest I've ever had a band open for us. This is the longest I've opened for a band.

I know, dude. How is that? Is that hard? This has been pretty awesome, honestly. But like, say like if you didn't like the band and like you're on a month tour, like you don't have to name names or anything. Is that hard? Is it hard to like be on tour with a band that might be a bunch of fucking assholes?

That would be hard. If the hang sucked, it would be hard. Because you're not making that much money. I know how much you're making. Yeah, exactly. And it's opening hard. Because you're not making that much money. I know how much you're making. Yeah, exactly. And it's opening money. And like, you know. Yeah, everybody check out my GoFundMe at www.

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, I would be blasting. I would be selling drugs. That's why we open for fucking Galactic or, you know, and all the other bands. You know, it's like, you know, it's opening money. And a band can't live off opening money. You know what, man?

Though, it's worth it. And this, the exposure, I know, it's opening money. And a band can't live off opening money. You know what, man? Though it's worth it. And the exposure, I know it's bullshit. Musicians are going to hate me for saying it, but it is worth the money. People pay to get on tours. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, it's true. You got to look at it a different way.

No, totally. And other than not making money, I mean, you're playing for a thousand people every night. Exactly. Or for our case, you know, a couple hundred. Great crowds, though. We've had almost all sellouts. All sellouts.

Yeah. It's crazy. This is the first time that's ever happened, really. That's what I was saying last night. We only sell out once every couple weeks. Give me those coattails, baby. Give them to me. I'm going to grab right on.

I'm going to hang on for dear life. We're on for a big adventure. We just take mushrooms every day. I love this. I mean, there's something to the mushrooms That beyond Oh let's get fucked up And trippy

We barely didn't even drink last night No yeah We didn't really We just ate mushrooms And drank those Fucking What are they called? Bear claws

Spike seltzers Yeah White claws White claw Bear claws Fucking donuts So I mean We weren't getting fucked up

We were just Writing songs about cum I mean you can On mushrooms Yeah weren't getting fucked up We were just writing songs about cum I mean you can On mushrooms Yeah that's not fucked up It's not fucked up I think it's great Yeah it's normal

Travi you ready to listen to Magic Giant? Let's do it Are you ready to show the world What the rock opera via cum Sounds like to you and Sean? We're in for a roller coaster here. Enjoy, guys. See you on the tail end.

All right. Next up on the interview hour, we are going to take a step back from the jam scene for a second while I interviewed these dudes from Los Angeles called Magic Giant. They're really cool. They're really blowing up They're selling a shit ton of tickets The people and the kids are hyped on them They're really doing some dope things

Hey Chris, why don't you drop some Magic Giant While I'm hyping them up They got a new record coming out They're playing at fucking Disney World At Epcot That's huge March 23rd or 24th Grab tickets They're on their way up at fucking Disney World at Epcot. That's huge. March 23rd or 24th, grab tickets.

They're on their way up. I really like this band. I'm proud of Zhang for sticking with music, and now he's in a really successful band. We talk about he had a death in the family and touring through mourning. That's pretty fucking hard trying to stay happy when deep down you're sad.

But anyway, check it out. Hope you enjoy it. More cum rock opera as well. We're just going to splash some more cum songs throughout the episode. But for now, enjoy Magic Giant. And we're fucking here, guys.

We're with Magic Giant. Boys. Tell you what, brother. Dudes. Okay, let's backtrack this. For some of my fans who don't know who Magic Giant is. Zoggy.

What's your new name? Zang. No, that's my name name. Name. Zang. Zoggy's my last name. You know me as last name only. I know.

In high school, I went by Zoggy. That was just my last name. Really? So Zang was my first bass player ever. He's the reason why I got pussy

in life in high school. It's true. We were on the swim team. And I remember just like I needed a bass player bad and I didn't know how to play an instrument. And you were always so fucking talented at the upright bass. And you're just like an all time fucking musician.

That's really sweet. I did not... I was a big fan of you, man. And then you were in that pop band. What was it called? Outlier. Outlier. Yeah. And you guys took the shit real sick.

We were a pop band. You were a pop band. What? You weren't a pop band? He thinks that was his indie band, and now he's in a pop band. Really? Now he's in an indie band,

and now he's a pop band. We cleared it up officially for the record today. Okay, let's talk about that now. What do you consider pop? What do you consider indie? I consider pop music that a lot of people can connect to, right? And indie is like trying to be pop but doesn't want to be that obvious about it.

But there are some, but I think there's production differences, right? When it's pop, a lot of times it's like shinier, glossier, cleaner. You know, it feels like a little, it's like when it's pop a lot of times it's like shinier glossier cleaner you know it feels like a little it's like just you know palatable it feels like you can just stick it in your mouth yeah it goes that smooth cotton candy yeah kinda give everyone's names tell the jury who the fuck you are let's do this one hey yo this is zhang this is austin this is zambriki lee we're with magic giant yeah collectively we're magic giant and um yeah our writing process is,

I can't imagine it's different from other people. We just kind of like, we bring in ideas and kind of like dish them around to each other and see how they flow. Who writes most songs? Everyone brings a piece to it? Everyone brings a piece.

Some people are better at closing. Some people are just more often bring the starters. Dan Brinkley's a good starter. He's got cool concepts. And we all just kind of close them up together. And one thing I want to say about songwriting, you know, we're trying to write songs like stories kind of from our heart. And, you know, there's some people out there that are like hit whores.

This is a new term we learned where they sit down and they're trying to write a hit. They sit down and say, all right, today I'm going to write a hit. And they write a song and they're trying to write what's kind of popular, right? So it depends what kind of EDM beats popular, that's the beats they're going to use. Taylor Swift songs popular, that's what they're going to do. Hit horse. So they're basically just trying to follow the rabbit's tail. Yeah, exactly. They're chasing the dragon. You know, we've met some people that are like that and it's kind of cool but for us, when we're... Talk that shit. I think when we're being

our best though, that's not what we're doing. We're just telling a small story that the three of us believe in. Yeah. And then I feel like that's the purest thing. I think if you're trying to make something beautiful, then it might just be your ego or something,

you know, trying to create it. What's beautiful to you? I mean, what's beautiful to me is like, is just a simple, simple melody and story that people can interpret in different ways, depending on how they're feeling. But it also means like something specific to you. So it's like if it means something to us, then we hope that it will mean something to other people. to you. So it's like, if it means something to us, then we hope that it'll mean something to other people. Amen to that. So like, when you're trying to write authenticity songs, like, are you

trying to think about like, oh, my fans might like this? Or is this like, this is what I like. This is what I want to do. Like, how... Once you get further on into a song, then it's like, if we're getting excited and we're like, taking a break, then it's like, oh, fans are going to like like yeah but i think when it's in the incubation period

we try not to get into the editing you know you're not editing at that point i think it could be kind of crazy if like when you start writing a song you're already thinking about like what chart is it going to be on or who's gonna like it yeah you're kind of stopping yourself up but if you just write the best song you can, write the best story you can, then when you're taking a break, getting some lunch, you can be like, yo, that song's dope. People are going to dig that. And then you can kind of reflect on it.

Is the plan touring or is the plan making records and making hits? That's the big question. Yeah, I mean, ideally we want to do both because part of the reason why we started the band is we wanted to play live. We were working in music. We were kind of working in studio situations, but we wanted to get out in the world and meet crazy sons of bitches like you. Yeah, because look, you're all from different parts of the world. Or not the world, but

country. So when you guys are trying to build this brand, whose idea was it to build this band? Was it you? I mean, yes, I wanted to do that. These guys also had their own ideas. Like, how did you audition? How did y'all meet? He definitely... Yeah, so Austin kind of initiated this band.

We all had... Sam Bricky wants his own. He's got a blues band. He doesn't tell anybody about it. We're fucking tight, dude. So it's tighter in this little shit. It's all in us that we all wanted to be a big part of something that eventually

affected a lot of people. I think Austin had this idea and he had the drive to find these guys and make this band work out. He brought me on and I don't even think he wanted a band. I think he was looking to be more of like a...

Solo. Yeah. No. Tell me how you feel. Like I definitely... I saw my brother. He was like... He's not in a band

but he just had partners at his company and I loved how he was just like... It was... He had that camaraderie and once I saw that, I never wanted to be a solo artist. I was just like,

what's the point? So like when you're writing a record how many songs are you bringing to the record process before all right we're picking 12 or we're picking 11 or picking that's kind of changed a little bit on this track on the record we're working on right now we're writing a big batch on our first album in the wind we were just writing as we went because we just needed songs to play yeah like for live so we just kind of built our way to 15 and then kind of put out 12 that kind of thing but now we're writing like a larger batch of songs and then we're going to kind of like do the whole picking thing yeah so that's a new sauce for us so so how do you explain that uh process you stressed out like you have to like split the songs between Zang's songs. No, we split everything.

We split everything. We think sometimes in bands, it gets a little kind of crazy where it's like, oh, okay, this guy maybe came up with this song first, right? But then, like, let's say I bring a song to the band and I got a cool idea for a version of chorus. Well, if it wasn't for this band, like it wouldn't matter. I would just be some jackass with a song with a version of chorus. Well, if it wasn't for this band, like it wouldn't matter. I would just be some jackass with a song

with a version of chorus. Like good for me. I'd be trying to pitch it to you to get the Andy Frasco cut or whatever. I'm from Asbury Park, New Jersey originally. You're in the scene. You're in that East Coast scene. I'm in the East Coast scene.

I'm in the West Coast scene. So like songs are, songs are king. Songs are king, man. Yeah, songs are king. So it king, man. Oh, yeah. You said that. Yeah, songs are king. So, it's like, but it's like, it's like, you know, 60% of zero is zero, you know? So, it's like, the way we do it is we just kind of split everything up equally as far

as, like, you know, just the way the back end of the stuff works, even when it comes into, like, nitty gritty publishing. Oh, so you guys share the publishing? Yeah, we share the publishing. One third. One third. Fucking socialism, boys. I like that. Yeah, one third.

And even like, so when, and even when people are trying to ask us like, oh, who writes the song? I feel like, you know, it's just like, we're all writing the songs. Like, it doesn't fucking matter, you know? And that's one of the reasons it doesn't matter. It's just because like, on the back end, we're like, it doesn't fucking matter who writes it. We're all going to be creating this thing. So no one's trying to think like, I'm going to bring in most of the songs and I'm not going to take these other

songs. It's kind of like, let's just write the best songs we can. Yeah. Whereas if there was like some weird splits, like if whoever brought the song, got, got all the,

the pub or whatever, or got all of the love, then maybe it wouldn't be as the best song wouldn't win. It would just be whoever was better at, you know, getting their songs in the fold, you know, sending it to whomever getting it and we also know that uh everyone the three of us are talented and are working as hard as we can and at at forwarding this dream of ours and and even talented within songwriting production and also outside of it and whatever

other other facets of the band so So we're all doing stuff. We're all pushing it forward. And so it doesn't, it just like, it's just way cleaner. And then when the dust settles, it doesn't matter who came up with that word or who changed that groove or whatever, which made the song tighter, which made it translate. When the dust settles and the song's finished,

it just matters that we did it. Can we go back to what the dream is you guys what's that you talked about move bodies and souls more than that like what is like the big 20 year picture you know we're like we're you know we're figuring it out man you know we we're really motivated and dedicated and i think we definitely think in like one year kind of increments like we know where we want to be like in the next year i mean in 20 years i mean in 50 years we want to be next year so i mean next year we want to be you know we want to have our our next album out we want to be at a place where we can tour and you know play the kind of rooms that we want to play, play, collaborate with other bands and like, you know, and just, you know, be able to make our own choices, you know, and not have to say yes to everything so we want to be able to like be more selective and and design

our kind of lifestyles and careers in a way where we can you know live our fullest life yeah i think in a big picture like we were talking about before there is this sort of like we want to foster and create uh events like beyond just touring beyond just doing the uh you know show every night in a different city. We're throwing a camp. We threw a camp last year. We're throwing another camp this year. It's called Camp Misfits.

It's basically like a micro festival in the middle of the Redwoods in Northern California. It's epic. We bring a bunch of different artists, comedians, writers. Yeah, this year we were the only band on the bill. And then we had Zach, the singer for American Authors, came and did a solo set. We had another friend do like a DJ set.

But we were the only kind of artists on the bill. And then, you know, as the years go on, we might grow it and have other artists and everything. But it was like, the point was it was our event. We got to create it and kind of design it. So the feel and the vibe and everything there was something that we were able to control. So I think fostering the experiential festivals

is something we definitely have. So what's that theme? What's the theme of your event? So the theme of Camp Misfits is the reckless. It's like an adult camp. Camp for kids. Like a stay away. The reckless abandon of like,

just be yourself out in the middle of the woods. And one of the coolest things about that specific festival is like, you can, it's similar to the rock boat, but it's, it's even more integrated with artists. Like you'll go and watch your favorite artists play on stage in front of hundreds of people. And then 20 minutes later, you can go and play volleyball with him or her, or then you can go and take their songwriting class or things like that where it's really integrated. You can really hang out. I feel like when I was a kid, I used to watch these artists on stage and be like, man, I feel like we can be close friends, but I'll never be able to touch that. I'll never be able to get there. And some of these artists that we hope to have at our festivals, it's like, it'd be so cool to have fans be able to connect with them and do things like that.

How important is community to your fan base? Well, it's like fans are cool, community's better. So sometimes that's the choice right there. It's like you can make a decision based on building a community rather than just gaining a fan. And then that can kind of lead you. So I think that's where the camp comes from and just how we operate yeah the the they call it's called camp misfits because magic misfits are our fans and and and yeah like the community has been so vital for us yeah you guys are doing really good i know they're like propelling

us forward it's it's really yeah so what what are they doing to compel you forward uh they're they're like propelling us forward. It's really, yeah. So what, what are they doing to compel you forward? Uh, they're, they're like, there's, there's, I mean,

they're just spreading like the word. They're at every show. Like they travel. More than every show. They come like, there's like 50 shows a year. Like, yeah,

they do things where they come and they're, and they're becoming friends with each other. They stay at each other's house. They road trip together. They, you know,

it's almost like we have a traveling, like we're almost fostering the traveling circus sort of thing. Well, let's talk about that. So they're coming to 50 shows a year. How important is the change of set? Change of set? Yeah, change of set. Every night.

All the time, yeah. And it's not only just changing the set in the song. You want to change the feel of the show. It's almost like if every show is kind of like a play, you want to have like an arc. You almost need a third act. So we almost want to change the feel of the show. It's almost like if every show is kind of like a play, you want to have like an arc, you know, you almost need a third act. So we almost want to build it. So you can't walk away from the show because you'll like actually miss something, you know, it's actually. Can we talk about that?

So what's your game plan of how you change sets every night? If you have these people like, you know, you're kind of like a, you know, it's like not, not calling you a jam band, but like jam band scene follows the band they follow you around the country so like what's your game plan about changing i don't know how much i don't know if we've necessarily yet because we haven't really played too much in the actual like fruit jam band scene it's more like people that have found our music end up coming with following with us i don't know that like we're getting fish fans necessarily that's not what i'm trying to say i'm talking about like when you're like you

know it's the same mentality like if people are following you around the country how are you making the show a different ambiance so they keep coming back that's the question yeah it's like what we we say okay if we're playing in tampa orlando we know people are going to go to both so let's you, make them different. Start with different songs. And then, yeah, what's the last time we played? Yeah, I think. There's that, but it's also like we're never trying to have a perfect show.

We're just trying to kind of connect. So it's like it'll feel different. Even if you're playing the same collection of songs, a show can kind of feel different. The jams are different by the way the jams are different and the solos are different

and also now that we have this this second album that we're working on we have like we have more songs than we can play every night and so

that's made it easier I think do you have like pressure to play new songs like do you have to play like like when you're making a new record, how do you know what's going to stick?

It's perfect when you're on touring. Exactly. You get that opportunity. You don't want to blow your load too quickly and not play all the new songs. And then when you have a fucking two-year album campaign, you have to play all those songs. How do you really say,

okay, let's try this song out on the set. Let's try this song out in this set let's try this song out so do you guys have that yeah we definitely do i think we value like first of all on our first album we we basically wrote the whole album on the road and recorded it on the road and that's a whole nother story but um but we really enjoy like like you said sampling testing a song on the road, seeing how people connect. And it's almost working our kinks out as well. Like we get to play it so much that we find different ways to play it, different groups and different things that may connect more. And we kind of think nothing's really precious.

Like we don't hold onto it too much. We don't mind if people hear it. It's always going to feel fresh and new. And there's always more people that will hear it. I don't think we have any songs that we're going to not like playing because we're vetting the songs as we're writing them. So it's not like there's nothing from the album In the Wind that like I don't want to play. Are you bored of any songs? No, I mean, there's a couple of songs that were our first songs that we wrote that we feel like we've kind of evolved past them.

That we were maybe just like doing a thing that we're not doing anymore um so there's certain there's a couple songs that were like you know it's just from when we first started we also play those songs differently live we're like now that we've realized that we just kind of like changed the live production on it we have fun with it yeah of course i i'm more interested i'm more excited by playing the new songs that are like, woo, like we're still right in the bridge on this. Fresh blood, you know, it's like anything. It is halftime at the Andy Fresco interview hour. I need to be a bit more careful than a young adult. Cool, here's some more cum songs.

I wake up with cum on my dick Cause I just had a wet dream At night I have to release all the cum All the cum inside of me I've been unable to cum on time My dreams are the only thing keeping my dick alive Oh, baby, it rips the cum from my sack Whether it's nighttime or during a nap that's in the sun My pants are up, baby, we were born to come

Baby, we were born to come So I want to hear, what's the biggest bomb? Any bombs? What do you mean? Like, you tried a new song and like, fuck, that did not work. Well, I mean, honestly, the biggest bomb any bombs what do you mean like what's the like you tried a new song like fuck that did not work well i mean honestly the biggest bomb the biggest bomb we ever had it wasn't over a song it was one of the first festivals that we ever played and uh wine and wine amplified yeah it was like unless i was supposed to give that a secret yeah i don't know. It doesn't matter. It was in Vegas. It was at beep amplified. And, and like, you know, we didn't know we were so new as a band, you know, we didn't know that like about the whole like set time thing. So they were like, Alright, so you got like, you know, whatever, 40 minutes, right? Alright, cool. That's like six matter. The guy side stage was like, he was telling me, yo, one more song. I was like, yep, perfect.

And then we have a song that goes into that. We just had a song that goes right into another song. So I was like, to me, it's one more song. So we played like a 10 minute song and they literally turned us off. They turned the fucking PA off. They turned the fucking PA off. That's great promotion though.

Like you fuck, no, they pissed, they're pissed. And then we're like festival promoters watching us, scouting us for another big festival. And then, like, they just saw... And then, like, the lights, the sound, all the audio just... Were you the last band? No, and then Train starts on the main stage. And it's like... Dude.

Hey, so... And it's just like... And we're just... Dude, I had the same experience and we're still shredding yeah oh tell them to go fuck you train

took a minute to realize but you know that was just we were green and we didn't know and we're lucky that we got to play a music festival

in the first three months that we were together as a band so we got to kind of learn that how long have you been a band? it's almost five years now I feel like

you guys have both the live show which is amazing and you also have like good streams and you have a good social presence where it's like you don't have to do as many shows and you can just do the smart shows like let's talk about that like yeah let's talk about that so like as a band you're five years in now so not used to like in the, like before you had a big manager, big agent, you had to like play fucking everything. So what,

how important is it to like not oversaturate yourself and basically play the song or play the shows that are, that are right for you? Yeah. I mean, it's still a struggle. It's still a struggle because there's pressure from, you know, the, I mean, it's still a struggle because there's pressure from, you know,

you have a bigger agent or your agent wants you to play a show and you want to make them happy. Right? So it's like, I feel that pressure when they're like,

I want you to do it. And why do they want you to do it? Because they think it leads to something. And it probably will. But like, we also feel the pressure of we need to release new music.

Like, I kind of feel like a jerk going to these shows and like playing the same 20 songs when like I know we have these other songs that maybe even connect more. We just like and the more time we spend on the road, the less time we get to work on these records and really kind of. Yeah. And then there's and then, you know, by the time we we can write it, we wrote some songs in the last few months that we're playing on this tour. We wrote some songs in the last few months that we're playing on this tour. But by the time the slow-moving machine kind of happens, I mean, these songs could be out in like two years, dude. It's crazy.

And you think like, yeah, one show, one day. It ends up like you fly out one day. You do the show one day. You sleep and then you come back the next day. And then you need another day to recoup because you just had a crazy, like weird hour change. It's just like it all delays it. And that's a whole week. When you think one show is one day it's not it's like a whole week so it's so you have to kind of be selective but at the same time you can't because because that's all

we have right now keeping our momentum moving it's like our touring right we need to we need to work on the record but we can't release it until we finish it's just a whole it's a cycle what you got what you got oh and and also i mean part of it's like financially you know you got to figure that out because sometimes you gotta you gotta live yeah and then and then just lifestyle not getting burnt burnt from just being sick all the time or whatever and yeah and then yeah we just had like a big discussion of should we do this you know tour because and then because like what tour oh well that tour we did we talked about doing an opening tour. And it's like, you can make one of these decisions, you know,

one fly date, yeah, sure, three days. But one, like, opening tour, that's like a month, you know? Yeah. And that's just one quick, like, you can email your agent, yes or no. And that's a month of your life right there. Yeah. So how important is that month of your life? What else do you like to do?

For right now, it's important because we're trying to write this record that we're really excited about. We have this momentum and it feels really good. And we're all inspired right now. So that's why this is the music video. And then with every song comes a music video. It's like that whole game. So definitely right now, it's been a balance it's been like

trying to find that balance of how many shows can we say yes to and how many days can we take to record and then you know our power team or whatever at 7S you know tell us like you guys are not we're not really in the place yet

where we can be a just a band that like takes two years to make a record and then does Are you guys on a label? Yeah we're with Concord Conc Oh no shit Shit

No shit Are they Okay let's Yes Yes shit Alright so they're not telling you they're not giving you

like album money to like or like a record advance to like say alright here's six months of your time Yeah I mean

it's like no I think maybe it was in the 70s when they delivered you a suitcase of cocaine and a bunch of money. But I just think those days are over. 90s too. It's a leaner business. I think people are a little gun-shy about...

So is it more of a development deal that Concord has going on? No, that's a deal. It's a real deal. We're in the fam, dude. Real deal. They're great. We love them.

We're at the second option. It's a real deal. We're in the fam, dude. Real deal. They're great. We love them. We're at the second album option. It's like we're about to either take a second album or not. So it's like this is the part of where we show them what we have. So we still have to write it ourselves and show them. Which we like doing. We like doing, yeah. And we're realizing that we have to kind of produce stuff out and make it sound really good before we show it.

Even to our team because, you know, it's like people react emotionally with the first time they hear a song. And it's like, and not everyone, some people can, you know, hear a song on acoustic guitar and be like, oh, I'll envision that. But most people just, you can't get past,

like you can't get past the first time you meet somebody, you know, you'll always remember them that way. First impressions are like the most important. So we're starting to hold our songs a little closer to our chest and not really share them with... I mean, yeah, don't blow your load too quickly. I mean, that's...

If we're in this for the long haul, why are we trying to like show everything? That's why I think it's smart for you guys to like be selective about what shows you do, what markets you hit, you know? Like don't blow your load. How important is it to find healing for yourselves when you're feeling shitty? Like, you know, that you might be dealing with some cold or stuff like

you guys are always on. Sometimes we'll be like depleted before we go on. But I always feel like once we hit stage, like halfway through the first song, at least if not right at the beginning, the interaction itself just brings you to life yeah it's like you're saying the people want it so bad that they're like so ready and they're giving it back in that way it's like they're reflecting it's like they're self yeah they're kind of given given that energy back just as much yeah and so and some of the some of our music is is uplifting right and we wrote it like in the spirit of you you know, of the triumph of the human soul. So we're playing these songs.

So it's like, we can't really play these songs all bummed out. It just doesn't work. So even if you're bummed out when you get up there, you know, when you're playing a song, it's about overcoming adversity in yourself. And you're playing it. Seriously, that's why we're doing it though, right?

So it's like literally the song's about it. I'm literally playing it. So it's like you have to, you're just, that's the only way to play. You can't play it. Let's talk about that. What is the triumph of your souls? Yeah.

You going through zing? I haven't talked to you since high school. Come on, tell me. Well, yeah, you haven't talked to me. My dad passed away a couple years ago yeah so I mean like what?

tell me about this yeah my dad passed away from a mental illness what happened? like what kind? like it started as depression? yeah depression was one of the big ones

from it but it was like it was more of a psychosis like an anxiety that turned into schizophrenia not like he saw or heard things, but his like logic and his sort of, yeah, just the way he saw things was a little skewed.

Did you know that growing up? No, no, it wasn't. It came out later in your life. So how important is mental health to you? Yeah, it's huge. It totally shifted the way I feel, like the things I talk about, and like, yeah, the way we write. It's a big part of it. It's like, you know, kind of,

you can't be too precious with those sort of like emotions. And you just have to, yeah, it's... How are you holding up? Are you suppressing your feelings? No, not at all. Not at all. I think that's why this is good. This band is good for you.

Yeah. And the positivity and the stress. I think stress is such a useless emotion that we kind of put on ourselves. Man, I didn't know that. I'm sorry, Zach. Yeah, no, that's all right. Thank you. Are you feeling good?

Absolutely. How are you feeling? I feel like I've grown a lot. I feel like through all that, my father's taught me so much. Yeah. And I feel like I've really come... How important is it through all that, my father's taught me so much. Yeah. And I feel like I've made him. How important is it to have a base like this? Like, have a family?

Because, like, you know, like, once you start getting famous and shit, like, you guys are on your way. You guys, the path is there now. Like, how hard is it to, like, say, okay, this is us. This is the three people. Like, no matter what outside sources, new new fucking agents new publicists like yeah deep down it's you three and like how do you guys like maybe like you know zhang was going through two years of his dad dying like how do you guys all lift each other up i mean that was this is part of all of it like my dad passed away and um right yeah yeah and he and he had been sick for like five years so

and like i had friends and even friends before i met them my dad was sick so but it was a big process and when he passed away like we had a tour set up and my dad passed away suddenly um like a week before we had to go out on tour and the the day we went out, like the bus drove up to the, to the funeral. We like laid my dad in a coffin into the ground. All my best friends came help, helped us bury him with like, you know, all of our family. And then we just went off and like did a tour. And that was like, that's probably one of the, that was one of the biggest ways I could have connected with like these, my boys, you know, my closest friends. Like, we went out and they helped me with one of, like, the most touching moments of my life. Yeah. And then.

That's some heavy shit, dude. And we went out and, like, fucking, it felt like we conquered the world, you know. It felt like we traveled the U.S. and, like, changed things, you know, and, like, did things. That was a tour that we were recording and writing the record. And it was that. We were out for a while. It wasn't like we were there and writing the record and it was that we were out for a while it wasn't like we were there and then went out for a weekend or something it's like we had everything packed up and like yeah it's like sometimes it feels like we've never like we're still on that

tour that was the start of the journey of our lives yeah that first show specifically, Lightning in a Bottle was, we had to go camping. We packed a van. Camping was like- That was the first gig? Lightning in a Bottle? But camping is like what Zang's family, that's what his dad would just take him to lakes

and pack the van and go camping. And that's literally from the funeral, went camping. Man, dude, from the funeral, went camping. Man, dude, this makes me want to cry. This is crazy, man. So this is what it's about. Brotherhood. That's what it's about.

But you're making it seem like he needed us. I feel like I've learned more from these guys than just about anyone. It's amazing because do you guys have relationships are you guys all married or anything you are you are the lead guy yeah so do you all have relationships so how hard does that have to be on the road and like have this other life this stable life and then like going through this wildness and then coming back to it. Yeah. I mean, it can be tricky. I think it depends. Like if everything's going kind of smooth, like then, you know, then it's smooth. But if, if things, if things at home, if things at home are not right and that's not even like necessarily like the relationship you're not getting along, but like whatever, something's happening, you know, your,

your house is all, your house is crumbling. Your, your dog ate a poisonous mushroom, anything happens. And then you're, you're so far away. You can't, you can't help. You can't fix it. You're just like, you're just, yeah. You know, you're kind of leaving your partner, you know, like almost like I leave and she's like single again for like six weeks you know and like she'll be calling she'll be like calling friends like hey you want to go uh get some you know brunch you know and like just trying to keep it rolling but luckily for me like my wife is like has her own life she always has yeah so she's fulfilled let's talk about that so is it is it really like when you're support you're basically supporting two people or six people

because you all have relationships so how hard is it when you're fucking tired it's tuesday you know you're you know maybe the show didn't sell as well as it did and you're just pissed off. You drove eight hours. How do you get through those humps? Is it being with you guys and having your dad pass away and stuff and having relationships? You're married. I just watched your wife do some crazy-ass yoga while you're singing. You guys have this love, man.

Do you take her on the road or is it hard to take your wives or girlfriends on the road? Oh yeah, we all have different situations. Zang's fresh in a relationship. I'm in the middle and Zanbricky's been the longest. But yeah, mine is the only one

who comes out with us and she helps us and does a bunch of creative stuff with us. She's on the road with you guys? She comes like, I don't know, half the time or something. Yeah. Yeah, it's really nice when, you know, I enjoy it. He's in a way better mood when his lady's there. A lot of attention.

Depressing those balls, dude. Just let them go, dude. I mean, it's important. I mean, like, when we're on the road. Sorry, dude. Just let them go, dude. I mean, it's important. I mean, like, when we're on the road... Sorry, guys. I know you might have young kids. It's your fan base. My fan base, they hear this shit all the time.

If you could tell yourselves, if you could tell your 18-year-old self the advice after, you know, 15 years of this music industry through the fucking solo stuff, through the band stuff, what advice would you give yourself?

Yeah, I think the biggest one for me is just don't stress. Don't stress out. Whatever the fuck it is, whatever the fuck happens or whatever the fuck doesn't happen, whatever the fuck people tell you should or shouldn't happen,

just don't stress because it's literally unprodu happen, just don't stress. Cause it's like, it's literally unproductive. It doesn't help. It's cool to like, to be inspired and motivated. I think those are two different things that people kind of confuse the two often.

Like, Oh my God, I got to feel this pressure and I got to use this and I got to be angry and I got to use that and direct it towards my career. But I think it can come from somewhere else. It doesn't have to come from stress. It can come from like motivation and inspiration instead.

I would say if you have a vision, pursue it. Like do whatever it takes to make it come true. What about you, Bo? So if I could tell myself

Say it one more time. If you could tell your 18-year-old self something that you've learned now as 35 years old, what would you tell them? Yeah, I would say just kind of just start. You know, I feel like for me, I did like when i was 18 i was doing music i was writing and then i was but i was also like kind of gypsy traveling you know and it took a couple years for me to kind of get focused and understand the actual building of it you know and there's that kind of there's that theory of the 10 000 hours right before you become 100 an expert and then and then by my early 20s i I had started that 10,000 hour

process. I moved to Nashville and I really dove in and that was my big moment to get all the, learn how to write and to get everything to the next level. But yeah, I just slapped myself in the face and just started those 10,000 hours early, man.

Magic Giant, thanks for being on the show, guys. And Zang, you're the reason why I got pussy in the swim league. So thank you, dog. I love you, dog. I love you. I'm rooting for you. Keep going. Fucking kill this shit. Thanks for being on the show, guys.

Thanks. Woo! Hey, Andy, it's Mike. Listen, you know I love you guys. I love having you stay with us, but I can't listen to Hannah bitch anymore about this stuff. The kids are just asking about cum, you know, every hour of the day. You know, they're screaming at the dinner table,

baby, I was born to cum. I want to know what cum is. There's six and seven. I can't deal with this stuff right now Hannah and I haven't had sex in like Six months I'm filled to my fucking eyeballs with cum Please just

Just Just the last night you're here Just don't Don't say anything about cum No more fucking songs Just watch it Watch Netflix and go to sleep Please

I don't want to put my whole marriage on you, but I'm fucked, man. One, two, three. In my life, there's been hard dicks and pain. I've tried porn and I've tried going gay. Can't stop now I've waited so long To pass this line of mine

I wanna know what come is I want you to blow me. I want to feel what come is. I know you can show me. I want to know what come is. I want you to blow me I want to feel what come is I know you can show me Show me the come

And there you have it Magic Giant The Rock Come Opera Oh yeah Travis, great songs Thank you Really brilliant, really smart

You know, like it's hard When you're singing Someone else's songs And you have to have that melody to keep it, you know, to keep it their song. Trying to figure out words. One of the most fun things to do, though. Destroy somebody's song.

Yeah. With cum. Just cum all over that fucking masterpiece. Oh, you want to write a serious song? Oh, this was a hit. Let me put some cum on there. Nah, man, it's great. You're a great dude.

I love you. I love you, buddy. You're a great dude. Can we talk a little bit more about these antidepressants? Absolutely. And they're like a statistic that there's like a lot of people on these things. Yeah. They're afraid to talk about them.

So, yeah, a lot of people don't want to talk about it. a lot of people on these things. Yeah. They're afraid to talk about it. So yeah, a lot of people don't want to talk about it, but the fact is one in six Americans are on some kind of psychiatric drug. One of, one out of six people?

One out of six. Yep. One out of six Americans. Are medicated? Are medicated. With, okay. What kind of medicated?

Like is Xanax included that? Yes, but legitimately like one in six people who get, who have like a Xanax prescription Not like oh I'm popping some Xanis tonight Do you think it's like This is why we have mental health Because we rely on Pills

Sometimes yeah Or you know Why can't people just take psychedelics Honestly Dude psychedelics do help a lot I can't people just take psychedelics? Honestly, dude, psychedelics do help a lot. Dude. Well, depending. I can't say for everyone.

Did it help your depression a little bit? They absolutely did. I had one specific trip. It wasn't mushrooms, but it was LSD. Oh, shit. It was an acid trip. It was my first mountain jam. I'd never tried acid before.

It was 2016. Tell me about it. Right after I was depressed, I started to feel better. I was on antidepressants already. What made you start feeling better? What did you realize? How much bigger the world was than me. How much this shit didn't matter that I was depressed about.

And I was like, oh, wait, I need to be happy. I'm living for, I have like, you know, only a limited time to live my life. I'm not going to spend it being depressed. Fuck. Yeah, dude. It's powerful. Who told you this? Your brain or was it like a hallucination?

No, just my acid brain. It wasn't like I was having... That's how mushroom did to me last night. Yeah. It's like live in this moment, Andy. Yeah. This is a good moment. Don't get on your phone.

Stop texting other people that aren't in this room. Exactly. And it's nice. And we all miss our friends back home and shit. And it's hard to keep in contact. But we don't need to be scrolling through Instagram. Maybe that's our anxiety too. Yeah.

FOMO. I think especially for people that are younger, a little bit younger than us. I feel like it's really bad for late teens and early 20s. For us, travelers, we are in a van or a bus or a fucking minivan or whatever you're traveling, all these bands that are on

listening to this podcast. And we are traveling eight hours by ourselves. We're not really talking to each other. Only like in spurts. Just a little spurts. You're by yourself. Even though you really talking to each other. Only in spurts. You're by yourself. Even though you have everyone here, you're by yourself. It's easier to look at your phone

and look at what everyone else is doing. It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. I used to call the van the tin can of rumination. Why? Because all you do is sit in there and you think about everything. Oh, God. And you just think about your life. Have you ever tried to do a long van drive on hallucinogen?

The closest thing we did to that is we just drank. We each had a 100 milligram can of punches. What's that? Oh, like weed drink? Yeah, 100 milligrams each and in the van and that was that drive it was one of the best drives ever i would say was it yeah dude i freak out when i drink too much or eat more than like 10 milligrams of weed yeah it's just uh you could do it i could do it unfortunately all those antidepressants, dude It's like, nope

This brain is fine It won't let the THC affect me Halt, THC We got it from here You know what's true about Klonopin and shit like that? You gotta be careful drinking Because it almost doubles the effects of alcohol So if I have a beer

And I take Klonopin, it feels like I had two beers. You can't drink on that stuff? You're really not supposed to. Yeah. But everybody does. Yeah. Damn. Yeah.

I don't really drink, though. Yeah, I never see you drink, really. You had a couple beers every now and then. Or if I force you to take a shot with me. I'll do a shot, you know. I'll do shots. Fans run up to me when I'm by myself because I'm trying to be an alcoholic.

I'm like, please sit here in this bar with me, Travis. I don't want my fans to see me just pounding fucking shots of Jameson. No, we're doing this together. God damn it. If you're the opening, you're fucking doing this. You want to be on this tour,

you're doing these shots. But Travis, thanks for being on the show, man. We got another week left. At least We have two weeks Oh my god It's like every middle Once you get to the middle point of the tour

It just goes by so quickly It's that first couple weeks You're getting to the start The groove Gotta get in there I just want to say thank you I know you guys deserve more money than I could pay you right now. Stop it.

Really. And you're an amazing band. And the more I get to hang out with you, because we never get to do this. No. This is great. Do a real hang. And like hang out for like 48 hours and like.

It's like real world. In our pajamas. Yeah. Real world fucking MTV. Yeah. Eat mushrooms. And, you know, smoke a bowl and have a cup of coffee and talk about the night. That's great, man.

I love it. Thanks so much for having us. I love you, man. So you got a new record coming out? Anything going on? We'll have a new record out in July. Right now we did one with Dan Rodriguez. Yeah, that's dope.

It's called Adriatic Rodriguez. Check that shit out. I couldn't believe you guys sold a shit ton of those at the Rock Boat. Yeah, man. The Rock Boat's dope rock boat the rock boat is dope they built your career a lot of it they did and they helped me actually 2016 was my first rock boat

it came at the time I fucking needed it rock boat is the reason why I got on JM Cruise hell yeah man those people will fucking help your career subscribe to the podcast everyone rate it let's be friends I normally do this your career. Subscribe to the podcast, everyone. Rate it. Let's be friends.

I normally do this kind of like calling end sermon thing at the end of the show. Would you like to say something inspiring to the lovely people, the bands, the people out there maybe fighting depression?

What do you got for us? If you're struggling in silence which a lot of people are because a lot of people don't want to talk about it and I know a lot of guys are embarrassed about feeling down or depressed but man we're all feeling that shit especially us dudes out here on the road traveling who are away from our

families and our girlfriends and our nephews and nieces and shit but take care of yourself first and then take care of yourself first And then Take care of your band And then write songs about cum And cum And you can write songs about cum too

When you're happy Stay happy guys We're in this together Thanks for being on board with us We got Chuck Morris Coming up next week from AEG. And then we got Dopapod,

my boy Neil, my other fro brother. Love Dopapod, dude. Dopapod's dope. Dope as hell. Yeah, they got some very exciting news that they're about to announce

that I can't talk about or Kunj will beat the shit out of me. All right, guys. Love you. Be safe. Comb your hair. Wear condoms.

And don't forget to know that you are not alone in this fucking fight. Right, Travi? Fuck yes, dude. Let's fucking fight and eat some more mushroom to go to a Buffalo Sabres game tonight. Fuck yes. Yes. Well, thank you for listening to episode 39 of Andy Fresco's World Saving Podcast. Produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angelhow and Chris Lawrence.

Please subscribe and rate the show on iTunes and Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon. For info on the show, please head to our Instagram at worldsavingpodcast. For more info on the blog and tour dates, head to andyfresco.com. Did you check out our new album, Change of Pace? It's everywhere you can stream music. For more information on our guest, Magic Giant, please head to magicgiant.com. And our special co-host for this week is Travis Gray from Wild Adriatic. Yeah, find him on from Wild Adriatic.

Yeah, find him on wildadriatic.com. Come, a rock opera, was written by Sean Eccles, Travis Gray, Andy Avila, Scott Hennay, and the rest of the band. This week's special guests are Sean Eccles, Andy Avila, Wild Adriatic, Arno Bakker, Air Refindlings and Hannah Rees. I often record these line and notes way across the big pond and that is where I am now. Andy Fresco tours with Wild Aid Vietic as I speak. And that is a great bunch of idiots.

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