Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 54: Marcus King and Andrew Campanelli (The Revivalists)

Episode Date: August 7, 2019

Another episode, blazin' out the gates. Andrew from The Revivalists joins Andy as a co-host with a conversation amongst friends... for everyone to hear. They talk about their bands and songs; with a modicum of conversational detour. Marcus King joins us for the interview hour. Marcus was our first guest....and we've all come so very far. Andy & him catch up and talk about changes in their lives...all for the better. EP 54 LIVE NOW EVERYWHERE. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Treat yourself and catch Marcus on tour: www.marcuskingband.com Check out Andy's new album, "Change Of Pace" on iTunes and Spotify Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Andee Avila  Shawn Eckels Arno Bakker  Bratty children of the internet

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He's hoping his dick will get wet Fucking two hippies rubbing some rugs Fucking they're on a whole lot of drugs Together, yeah, they're having some fun Just keep fucking on Let's start the show. start the show. We're here, alive, fucking hungover. I drink too much. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast.

We got a special guest, my boy, brother from another mother. We got Andrew from The Revival is with me as my special co-host. What's up, Andrizzle? What's up, man? How you doing? What a nice surprise. Thanks for the text. You're like, are you in L.A.? I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm in L.A. Let's talk about songs. How important are they to you?

They're everything. I mean, you hear it in bands like, say, The Beatles. You have a great song that can be interpreted by Stevie Wonder and be original and unique. That is a good example of how the arrangement and the performance can bring a song to life. But a great song can be played in any different kind of style. And it's still there. It makes you feel something.

It's connected to something deeper that may be you know inexplicable what was the first song of your guys's band that you felt like wow we're writing fucking songs well it's interesting because like when i met dave uh when zach zach and i met dave he already had soul fight that was the first song that he had ever written. Brought to the table. Yeah. And so we were, I think that's one of the reasons why, like, we are the band we are is because when, like, Zach and I, we loved songs too. So when we heard that song, we were like, this guy's pretty good. You know? You know, Zach called me and was like, you know, I found the singer. Let's do it.

You were in New Orleans too at this time? I was in New Orleans, yeah. I moved to New Orleans two days before Katrina. What? Yeah, it was my... Where are you from? Right outside D.C., the Virginia side of D.C. So yeah, I grew up two blocks away from a venue that I worked at,

and I knew nothing about New Orleans. And while I was working at this venue, they used to play the meters in the kitchen that I worked at and I knew nothing about New Orleans and while I was working at this venue they like they used to play the meters in the kitchen where I worked and then like within one month Dumps to Funk and uh Dirty Dozen and Papa Grows Funk came through and I was like you mean all this music comes from one place and so that I moved there to go to college the next year. Where'd you go Tulane? Loyola. Loy loyal oh yeah yeah i was studying music industry because i very smartly knew that that's why we're fucking kindred spirit because because i very i was i knew that basically being a musician was a pipe dream that you know i would never be able to do

so you thought like might as well just figure out what area of music? Yeah, I wanted to be in music somewhere, yeah. So it could be A&R to – Yeah. Well, I thought I wanted to be an engineer, but I quickly found out that's not where my skill set lies. Why? I just – you know, if somebody hears like a bass drum sound, they're like this could be 10% better.

I'm like, sounds like a bass drum. I think it's because I'm all about the song, you know? Like in – I was reading Jeff Tweedy's book, and he talks about how'm all about the song you know like in uh i was reading jeff tweedy's book and he talks about how like if you have you know spend a whole day trying to get the hi-hat sound and like you don't have something that you're happy with maybe it's not the sound it's maybe it's what is being played you know it's like at a certain point um it's it's the song you have you listen to like the kinks um strangers it's like that that's that rack tom that is throughout the whole song it's just like it sounds terrible but

it's a great song and it adds to the character of the song even that it sounds so terrible i know like if you know the kinks are really good about that then it doesn't't, it's like, you know, Tweety's good at that. Like, you know, the songs are everything, and then they bring it to the band to deconstruct it. Have you ever gave up on a song? Oh, yeah. Yeah? In the studio?

When you felt like, oh, shit, I want this song to work, and, you know, what song? Yeah. Well, I don't actually look at it as, like, giving up if you really love the song it's sort of like not now yeah you know we actually we had a song on the on the take good care record called hate to love you that we um had scrapped from the previous record and the version of it on the previous record is kind of more bouncy and jumpy and i really loved that version too

um but it didn't make the record. It wasn't up to par for that record. And then we brought it into David Cobb and we changed the chords, changed the vibe, and now the song is this kind of haunting, slow thing where it wasn't before. And I think that really suits the vibe of the song better than the original version, which I really liked.

But yeah, we also have a song called Wait for the Sun that hopefully will be on the next record. It was written in like maybe 2008. And I think it's one of these just great songs that Dave and Zach wrote together. That you're just figuring out how. I have, I can't, like sometimes I remember that song and I'm like, how is this not already on a record?

It's crazy, you know? But yeah. Yeah, i go through that too or i've been writing this one song since i was 19 and like i just don't you know it's like you don't want to put it out until you think it's yeah what you think but like going through different producers and moving on with songs maybe that's the help let's talk about that producers like you can work with one producer and a song might not work. Then you put Dave on a song.

So, yeah, that's a really interesting point. Dave Cobb, when we went in with him, when we went in to make Take Good Care, we had 60 songs. And so we were just choosing. 60? Yeah. Because we're all writing all the time. Because you're writing too, Andrew.

You've sent me some of your tunes too. You have really nice songs. Thank you. Yeah, I have a lot of fun writing tunes. Yeah. Well're writing too, Andrew. You've sent me some of your tunes too. You have really nice songs. Thank you. I have a lot of fun writing tunes. We had this... We would come in every day and he would say, let's do one of these five and we would do that. Then we would come in the next day and say, let's do one of these five.

It wasn't the four from yesterday we didn't do. It was just another five. One of the songs he was talking about doing was the first song that we did put on the record other side of paradise and he wanted to do it but he kind of wanted to give it like a bill withers vibe and i wrote that song um a few years ago with a certain kind of vibe in mind that was not bill withers and i had never fully demoed it out yet so but i i knew that making it kind of like a soul song was not really what i wanted to do with it um and so we we ended up we didn't get to it with dave and then we went

in with andrew dawson and we went to record that and he really made that song come to life and in exactly the way that i heard it when i was writing it yeah which is great because it's so, you know, working with multiple producers, this is the first time we've worked with multiple producers on this record. On this record? Yeah. So how many songs per producer? Dave did, so I don't remember. We did like nine or ten with Dave, but not all of those are on the record.

And then we had Andrew Dawson did two. What's he done? He's a longtime producer for Kanye. And Bon Iver, James Blake. How exciting, dude. Andrew, this is a fucking trip, right? Yeah, it's crazy to be in the room. And it was great to be in the room with these different people

and see how they work and kind of bring a lot of the same songs to them and then have them bring them to life in different ways than each other. Like, um, so yeah, Andrew, and it was cool. Cause like Andrew came to the studio,

Andrew Dawson came to the studio to work with us from the Montana mansion where he was with James Blake and Bon Iver working on stuff for Kanye. The fuck? And then he came to the studio with us and it was sort of like when we were working with Ben Ellman, a friend, another person in the room that just gets what we're going for,

can help us get it there. Has he always been your homie? Ben? No, no. Andrew? Yeah. No, this was just... It just felt like he was an always been your homie or this ben oh no no andrew yeah no this was this was just it just felt like he was like an old-time homie yeah he just really cool really easy to get along with classically trained musician can do like the quickest person i've seen in the studio in terms of like making sounds and having having the stuff like pretty ready to go um but it was

yeah and then the working with dave cobb was different because he was more like it's more like um he's the like he's playing the band right he's saying he's standing in the middle of the room playing shaker and we're playing everybody together everything bleeding into mike's dave's voice, blasting through a speaker in the room. So like, you're married to the take. We did that. That's how he does it? We did that for a celebration.

We did that for, I think we did that for Got Love too, but we didn't do that for every song on the record that he did. So like he understand the vibe of the songs. Like, oh, this feels like a live vibe. So we'll do this. And he really gets the like, he really gets that for various songs, like what to do with them. He can do a lot of different stuff, but he loves to do the live thing.

And yeah, so then what was Kanye's boy more like? That was more like working, like I said, like working with Ben. Well, I guess what I was saying was Dave was more like he's playing the band. Hands on. Yeah, he's the the band. Yeah. He's like, he's the painter and we're the color palette, you know?

Um, but we've also, you know, it's our song. And then, and then Dawson was more like, you know, a collaborative, almost like a band member where he's like,

what do you think? Should we do it this way? You know, do you guys like that? What do you want to, you know, what do you want to do? And then he'd help that help us bring it to life as a drummer what do you think of drum machines

in the recording process they can be great yeah i mean it depends on how they're used just like any instrument any tool a lot of those kanye records were did they have a lot of live drums and stuff no no it's all process i mean i didn't ask, but it doesn't sound like it. It doesn't sound like it. Yeah, but no, I think that that can be great. I mean, you're using, it's a new tool. It's like a different kind of art to make something great with a drum machine. And to combine those two things, electronic drums with live drums, can be awesome. What's the new guy's name again?

Oh, new drummer? Oh, PJ. PJ. He's cool. So was this the first record recording with him? Yes. What was that again? Oh, PJ. He's cool. So was this the first record recording with him? Yes. What was that like? Two drummers. Yeah. Alvin Brothers style, dude. It was interesting because we didn't really plan it

out. We just kind of brought him into the studio. That was one of the pre-production sessions, like October of whatever year it was. It was kind of the first stuff he did with us so we were like working on tunes together and then we went on tour and then we like and then you know six months later we went and recorded the record with it was a different process with

each producer like Dave had us set up two feet away from each other and no sound baffles in between and like we were just playing together. And then we were more separated in the other sessions. And that, but that process is great. I mean, it's all about the synergy of whatever you're creating with whoever you're creating it with, no matter what they play.

And PJ, you know, was just a great addition to the energy of the whole project. So yeah, I mean, we were able to also work things out and do things in just a different way than recording them all individually. We were able to do more things like him playing percussion while I'm playing drums, so that vibe is a little more kind of married together.

Has he made you a better drummer definitely yeah yeah all right can i ask something personal yeah okay um i don't know how you are and how your personality is i'm super sensitive and i think you are too and as we are friends how is it like to to have someone, another person, another drummer in the band when this is your fucking rhythm baby? I would first take it as offense. What, do you think I'm not good enough? Yeah, well, it's interesting because I had to have surgery a few years ago and PJ actually filled in for me while I was out.

I had hernias from 10 years of touring. Where? In the hernia area. Oh, fuck, dude. Yeah. Really? Yeah, so I actually, he filled in for me on Jam Cruise.

Those were like the only shows I had to miss. They were already booked and I had to get surgery. And so he filled in for me. And we've known him for a really long time time so we could have gotten a lot of people to be that guy but PJ was just the guy that fit the bill we knew that he got in with you know the band and so when the when it came up after I came back that maybe like as we're going to this next record maybe we'll maybe we'll like bring in another drummer I was you know at first I was sort of like what um you know how is this gonna look not like to other people but like how are we gonna go about doing this I don't I had no

real idea but because you've been the drummer since the beginning right yeah but not I don't mean and when I say how's this gonna look I, I just mean how are we going to do this? Yeah. And so actually the night before we went into the studio for the pre-production sessions, Radiohead was in New Orleans. And we all separately went to go see them. And it was like, okay, they have two drummers. There was one guy that was there for a long time,

and then the other guy came in, and he does different stuff, and they played together. They switch off. But it kind of dawned on me that night, the guy who had been there for years was already a huge rock star, and he could have been like, fuck y'all, I don't need this. I'm just going to, if you want a new drummer, then he could have taken it personally and been like, I'm out.

But instead he's still the drummer in Radiohead. And embraced it. Yeah. So it's like, so that was, you know, that was one thing. Plus also, I mean, Zach, in talking about this idea, Zach was like, we had to do this when Ed joined the band. You know, like I had to figure out how are we going to play together. ed joined the band you know like i had to figure out how how are we gonna play together and um you know to pj's credit like he's not typically been like a percussion player in the past he plays

drum set like i do so he was but he's so musical and intelligent and just in tune together is fucking tight that he was able to add in elements to songs that we, you know, that were missing before. And we would have, like, we had Mike Dillon on Men Amongst Mountains all over the place. So we had tambourine parts, bongo parts, all that stuff that we were just not doing live. So as we were growing into this new space of bigger venues and bigger shows, kind of to fill that out more, it made sense to have somebody that can do that and then we also have at our disposal this guy who's a great at drum sets so we said let's give him a kit too yeah dude it's kind of like almond brothers bro well you can say that

no but really man like you're listening that must be so hard for you bro like i have a hard time listening to fucking everyone else and trying to build this thing you're back and forth and trying to stay a consistent breathing pattern with the drummer while focusing in on the band and the cues and stuff well it's it's interesting because in a lot of ways it's like it's easier you know you're like you're a you're a two-man team pulling a sled instead of just like one guy out front you know you're like you're a you're a two-man team pulling a sled instead of just like one guy out front you know not like like one dog out front pulling the sled you know you're you're two people together so your groove is thicker so everybody falls into it you know fairly easily

and one of my favorite shows i've ever played from before pj was in the band was on Jam Cruise. Mike Dillon, Weedy, and Nate Wirth all set up in a line behind me. And the three of them just played whatever they felt like for the whole set. I fucking love it. And I physically felt like I was lifted up by a wave during that show. And it makes you play better when you have this synergy. physically felt like I was lifted up by a wave that during that show and it you know make it

makes you play better when you have like this synergy the connect live music is the connection of people on stage like people in the crowd that's what they're responding to one guy standing on stage shredding can be very interesting if you're into if you're into that guy or you want to see some really talented musician but like four people playing simply but together their energies combine and become exponentially more powerful and that's what i think people are responding to in a live show plus pj is three days older than me so we're connected cosmic bro honestly like it really works well and like you know like and like to take your ego out of it and to say this is for better for the band is why you're my homie thanks you're a fucking humble guy you can't bring ego into the into the studio into the room what about

when you get more successful um and people are kissing your ass now. Because people are kissing your ass. You're a big band. Not me. I just play the drums. Oh. Come on, Ed. Y'all are killing it. So, like, how do you stay humble

through this process? I mean, I think as a group, we've been, we've kind of maintained that aspect of it ourselves. Like, we call each other,

we keep each other normal we're everybody's pretty much the same as they were when we started because like if anybody starts getting one way and the other people in the band will be like this guy's acting like an asshole now yeah and then you kind of come back down to real life you think new orleans uh oh definitely definitely i mean look Oh, definitely. Definitely. I mean, you look at George Porter or Ivan or Dr. John or any of these people. Alan Toussaint. You used to see Alan Toussaint rolling around town in his rolls with the songs license plate.

But he was just... Really? Yeah. He had a license plate that said songs? Yeah. I fucking love him, dude. The song is king. The song is king. The song is king.

Yeah. So he like, so, you know, you see these people rolling around town, living normal lives, just like normal people. And you're like, who am I? Who am I to act, you know, high and mighty when I run into Alan at the grocery store? Yeah. It's unbelievable, man. New Orleans is a very special place.

And it makes, I mean and it makes i mean it makes men out of boys yeah in in a lot of different ways you know it could be the controlling substance abuse it could be feeling like you're you're you're this small little fucking peanut of a musician compared to the dr johns who fucking are at the grocery store yeah and i think that that's part of the really like cool thing about it is because you have all these people like like you in nashville or la or new york like these are music cities where they're known like you go and you do your thing and some manager producer and you can get famous people don't move to new orleans to get famous they They move to New Orleans to get good at playing music.

And when you can go down the street and see somebody that inspires you or embarrasses you or whatever, and they're playing on a random night in a small, small club, it keeps you inspired to work. Yeah, dude. Like seeing fucking George Porter at the Maple Leaf on a Tuesday for, you know,

175 people. Yeah, right. This is the dude that like – Wrote all the fucking songs. Yeah, the bass player on all that stuff. If you've heard music, you've heard George. New Orleans. God bless it. Thanks for being on the show, Andrew. Yeah, you've heard George. New Orleans. God bless it.

Thanks for being on the show, Andrew. Yeah. Thanks for having me. And thanks for being my friend, dude. Hey, you too. Me and you, we text a lot. And I don't keep up with a lot of people, but I keep up with you. And I just think you're a good dude.

And I'm proud of you, bro. I appreciate it, man. You too. I was actually just talking about this the other night. We were talking about how as you get older, it can be harder to make friends. And I was saying, yeah, with me, it's different because I'll meet people, and I'll be like, man, I'm going to be really good friends with that person, and then I see them twice a year. Yeah.

Exactly. And so, yeah, it's good to have that connection and to be able to say, oh, I'm flying into LA. You want to stop in on your way from San Diego to LA and hang out for 20 minutes? Yeah. And I'm here. Yeah. I'll always be there for you, buddy.

Right back at you. So keep writing great songs. Kick ass. Tell Fred Durst I say what up. Oh, no doubt. I can't believe that, dude. My boy. Love you, Andrew. You too. See you soon, pal. Alright, absolutely. Alright,

next up on the interview hour, we got Marcus motherfucking King. Our boy. Come in for a second round of me analyzing the fuck out of him. He's a great guy. I really love getting to know Marcus every day. Hey, Chris, why don't you put on some Marcus King while I pimp him out a little bit. Marcus is the man. He's an incredible songwriter. He's an incredible band leader, boss and uh i just can't say enough about

him he just moved to nashville with his girlfriend and billy strings is out there and they're just riding songs they're kicking ass they're bringing some fresh blood into nashville and we can't ask for much more um really special interview we talk a lot of things, living on a bus now, and all the things that come with the territory of being in a more popular band. So ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back to the show, Mr. Marcus King.

Goodbye. So goodbye, Carolina. Serves my whole life to find you. I hate to leave you, but I hope you know that I'm going out to see you. So hold my hand as I'm leaving. God, my pain within the breathing I'll see you on the other side of the moon in style Now I'm going, I hate to take it back

And we're here, fucking still breathing. Barely. Andy Frasco's World Savick Podcast. I have a very nice guest with me. Mr. Marcus King. How you doing, buddy? I'm doing fine. How you doing, sir?

I'm sitting in your tour bus right now. Who ever thought, you always thought that thought that but like it happened so quickly but well not really quickly you've been doing this a long time though right i mean it's always like a look at the grand scheme of it you know in the grand scheme of things you know we've only been a group for six years yeah but you know we've been really busting our asses. And now the bus is really gratifying. We had the opportunity, like I always wanted to do as a kid, was bring the bus down the street I grew up on. One of my dad's old places.

I saw that picture on Instagram. So I went down that street. But it was taken away from me kind of because I got off the bus and my whole family was there cheering me on. They were like on this is great and then a school bus pulled up and we were blocking the whole street and these poor kids like ah what the fuck so she's the bus driver she's laying on the horn and then i'm just confused it's early it's like six in the morning you know we're picking up the rest of the band so i just like shot this lady driver a bus or a bird finger and uh i didn't think about it so we

started going somebody's like you just slipped off a bus of kids i didn't think about the kids behind just the lady blowing the horn, really. Oh, my God. Isn't it funny how we visualize those moments in life? When we're a kid, perfect day, no one's on the road, just the bus coming in and then the family. And all of a sudden we get ruined by a bunch of fucking kids in a school bus. That's usually what it is. No, no, I had this conversation with Dave Shaw.

He's always wanted a bus. And now that he has a bus, he can't sleep in it because it's hard for him to sleep. And he's sleep deprived. We think about these things when we're a kid. And all of a sudden, we get them. And they're not what it's all imagined. Or is it? I mean, the bus for me is the best sleep I've ever gotten.

Yeah. Because you get cocooned up in the middle there. Yeah. And you shut both doors. You're isolated. Dim lights. And you have to keep it really cold to keep the germs from going because you've got 10 sweaty people on a small thing.

Oh, is that true yeah oh i didn't know that that's why they're always cold oh nice you're learning things you're learning bus etiquette we're learning bus etiquette so can you like take shits in it or no shit no shits just pisses yeah we get personally fined if we if we take a dump on the bus finds you oh the driver okay if you take shit if they they see shit, it's in the stool. Because the driver has to clean it. And, you know, nobody wants that. Were you traveling?

Like, were you driving yourselves a lot? Who was the driver in your band? There was a moment where we took shifts. I didn't really drive a lot. No? I think that was more so because at first they were all like this is horseshit you know he should be driving too but i think it kind of shifted to like maybe it's not the best idea if we have this dude driving because i was not the same driver no never wore my glasses that i should be wearing yeah and uh driver no never wore my glasses that i should be wearing yeah and uh would always take the 4 or 5 a.m shift and just why are you doing that to yourself i thought i could sleep and then i'll

do it and i'll drop but now jack ended up driving a lot and then we brought in dave good old dave he came in to uh work for us for a while I think we just pretty much drove him crazy. I don't know where he is, just staring at a wall somewhere. You think, well, when you're at that point in your career where you only can hire one guy to do everything, that's Dave. For me, it's Joe. My TM does fucking everything. We burn them fucking down.

I think that's one of the hardest gigs, man. Like, now with the buzz, it's a little bit easier. You don't have to drive. You got kind of like this routine you always have to do. But it's exciting. Are you tired? What's going on? Are you, like, how long have you been doing, like, you felt like you've been on the road constantly for a couple years.

It's been kind of like that. And I think that's another reason you kind of kindred spirits in that sense because you know and there's there's other cats out there like billy strings that are doing it the same way yeah and we can all kind of look up and see each other like all right there we go we're the front runners as far as what like we're gonna be on the road the most days this year. It's like, yeah. How many shows are you doing still? A couple hundred? A couple hundred.

Close to it. And if we're not at a couple hundred, we're at least out on the road 200 days a year. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because it's hard to think about how many birthdays and whatever you miss while you're, you know, out on the road. And then you look and they're like, yeah, you pulled in 175 shows this year. I'm like, no, it had to be more.

Yeah. You don't realize all the travel days and stuff. All the travel days, yeah. You been taking your girl with you on the tour? She's been coming with me a lot. I've been seeing that a lot. She's keeping you healthy too. I've been seeing all the diet stuff or the detox stuff.

Yeah. And it made me want to do it. healthy too. I've been seeing all like the diet stuff and like, or like the detox stuff. Yeah. And it made me want to do it. Like how is, how is detoxing on the road? Is that hard? That one detox I did was at home and it was okay. What was it like a cleanse? It was a cleanse thing. And like, we were allowed to have like, I don't know, like five pieces of cauliflower at night and some veggie broth. But during the day it was like just these shakes that are just filled with nutrients. I'm not really sure what it is. Do you make it feel better?

It made me feel great. We actually finished that cleanse, and we woke up that fourth day just like, once you get there, it's like you can keep going. It's those first three are the hardest, they say, in anything. But we went to Arnold's, actually. Yeah. And got some soul food. It just about made us sick.

Because you've been on a cleanse. I mean, yeah, it's like putting poison back into your body. That's exactly what we did. So did you guys order a bunch of food and then realize, I can't even eat any of this shit. We were eating fried catfish and cornbread and all the fictions. And then we're just like, oh, gross. You think she's keeping you alive?

I think it's safe to say that she's helping. Yeah, you know? Because I want to talk about this plant-based diet. Is that hard on the road? I've been a pescatarian for three years so coming to like new orleans and getting like some of the best seafood yeah it's always easy easy you know but you get out in the middle of nowhere america it's easier for me as a pescatarian vegetarian my dietary restrictions aren't as bad as like say a vegan i'm on the road

yeah you know i can go in and get an egg biscuit at the worst you know but like a vegan i don't know what they could do out here yeah so you can at least have like you're not like straight vegan you're like just you don't eat red meat and i don't eat red meat or chicken or pork products or beef. I just eat, you know, like good lean fish. Yeah. And, you know, it works for me. Yeah. I think to each his own, but I've never really fucked with swine anyway.

Really? I had a pet pig when I was a kid. You loved it? His name was Wilbur, and it was me and my sister's pet pig. Or we thought it was a pig. But my stepdad got it in the hopes of, you know, killing it and eating it. And you didn't know that? I didn't really put the two together.

So you became friends with this pig? Yeah. And then one day, he just goes out with his gun and he's like, putting Wilbur down today. I was like, what? Our pet? So he killed the hog. And then he had it like hanging up in the shed, you know.

Chopped all the shit. And I was like, you know, I'm not really a pork fan. Oh, my God. So you didn't eat pork young in life then after that? Well, you know, here and there, you know, and it wasn't until later in life that I kind of realized that all meat, you know, what I grew up eating, like chicken and beef, all of us, you know, eat. Yeah. I ate chicken for like every meal for 20 years. I'm going to take a break.

Same here, dude. I'm getting sick of chicken. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I'm trying. I really want to try that. I'm going to take a break. Same here, dude. I'm getting sick of chicken. Yeah, dude. I'm trying. I really want to try that. I do. And because I'm just trying to stay healthy, man. I quit the Coke.

I quit all the drugs. And I'm just like trying to figure out how to keep myself from, you know, sleep deprivation because I think that's what's going to bring us down quicker than anything else. If we don't get sleep while we travel so much and while everyone's pulling us in every direction, we're going to burn out, dude. We don't want to burn out young, right? Exactly, man. And I tell you, I quit all this stuff, too. I've been telling people.

I saw our good friend Jimmy Herring the other day, and he said, how's the experiment going? And I forgot I'd been referring to this as an experiment, quitting everything, just smoking grass. And it's been going good. But what pisses me off when I'm doing that is when I still have times when I'm tired and still feel like shit and I'm not, you know, doing the fun part of it. So what do you think that is from? I think it's

sleep deprivation. Like you said, you know, I think we have a, you know, a tendency to put a little much on ourselves and the moments that you do have to sleep like today, you know, I slept most of the day away. And, uh, do you feel bad when you of the day away and uh do you feel bad when you sleep the day away yeah and i didn't really think that was a thing until i started waking up early yeah and doing shit yeah like what do you do like what what would like to make you feel like you had a complete day if i just get up a little early and I go somewhere that's not the hotel. Take a walk. Yeah. Yeah.

Like a day off on the road is just like, you know, go see something. I usually like to go see old churches. Yeah? What do you like about them? I don't know, man. Just the intensity of the, you know, structure itself. And I usually mostly do that in like europe yeah because the church is over there like the 11th century cathedrals and stuff like the architecture is really interesting

to me yeah and just to kind of put yourself in the shoes of you know people that may have seen that in the 11th century yeah why they would see that as like a house of a higher deity. Yeah. Because it's so awesome in magnitude. It's beautiful. I mean, like, are you talking to any older musicians telling you like, your star is here. People are pulling you every way. Like, how can you still be cool with self, you know? been musicians in my path that have stepped in as a mentor role without it really being that you know they just are people i obviously look up to but they're never preaching at me you know and those are the mentors i keep because people like eric krasnow and Jimmy Herring and Derek Trucks that you can just hang with, and they're like your brothers, you know?

Yeah. And you just kind of learn from them without them being like, listen here, you little shit, this is what you need to do. Yeah. Well, we're like the rebellious. It's the same thing as the fucking school guard honking at you when you're having your moment. Like, no, fuck you.

This is the moment I've been wanting with my parents to see me walk into the tour bus and start a new part of my life. It's an interesting time, too, because you get to a certain point where it's like you have your mentors to help you with decisions, but at the end of the day, it's your call, and you're the one that decides your fate and i've always said the only people that can stand in front of me and where i want to go is me so that's what's terrifying about it because you don't have anybody to point at if shit goes wrong what do you think it is do you think

you don't like the control the full control of your life you want someone to tell you hey this is the path you want to go or like how do you what do you think like i i mean i love having full control and i like uh i've made some some changes recently you know uh just like what the drugs and well. I made some changes there in my personal life, and it was a very growing experience. I was a yes man. I've just entered into what I call my no phase. Is it empowering to say no now?

Yeah, I mean, I always feel terrible. Yeah, that's just because you're a good guy, you're sensitive. That's when I need the support group, like my girl and everybody else, to be like, no, dude, five gigs is cool for one day. Yeah. They'll be okay. Yeah, everything's going to be fine. You know, it's like I think you're at a point in your career right now

where people are probably giving you different advice, right? And you have to, like like know what you want in life and take the advice of like your girl when she's telling you to be healthy like you got to take all the advice from all these different people and like manage a way to make you still feel like you're in control that's got to be hard yeah it's it's weird out here man because this music industry will eat you up it will and i think that means something different to everybody man because when people say that it'll eat you up i mean it can be one thing or the other you know it could just be the sleep deprivation or the the lack of being at home the lack of schedule you know that could

eat you up or it could be like industry folks like the movies of schedule, you know, that could eat you up. Or it could be, like, industry folks, like the movies portray, that take you down and try to fuck you over. Because that shit happens. But, I mean, I've been blessed with a great team, and I've not witnessed as much as that. But,

you know, I think, again, having the people to look up to is important. It is halftime at the Envy Fresco interview hour. And now, your Planned Parenthood moment of the week. What is wrong with you? Where's the receipt? Go return it.

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You like living in Nashville? I dig it. You're new, right? I'm fresh to town. I saw some Instagram video. I creep you. I got to make sure you're good. We creep each other.

But yeah, you guys are like decorating and shit. I was wondering why you're moving to Nashville. Does this make sense now? You want to be with songwriters. You want to write songs. Yeah. I mean, to me, songwriting can be so many different things, man. What are they?

To you, what are they what to you what are they for me it's i mean it's always been since i started writing just an expression of my innermost self and they used to be really specific but with carolina confessions that was the first record i felt strong as a writer because those songs could be interpreted how you hear them. And that's all I ever say my songs are about now, is whatever you hear, that's what I want it to be about. So what are you talking about? What's going on in your head for this last year, man? It's all just a lot of release.

And the way I've always put it is like i may be telling a story about something that happened four years ago that i didn't have the vocabulary or the writing savvy to put into words you know without it sounding cheesy or something you know what i mean yeah so that was always my thing is i feel like i'm finally catching up with myself as far as i'm writing about things happening currently. Instead of writing what happened three years ago, I can finally put together the right wording. Writing can also be like, you know, it's a skill set, too, you know? Yeah.

Like, I write for my personal reasons. It's all my stuff. But you sit down and write with some other folks too. You can learn how their brains work and kind of learn some new ways to approach a song. And that's what's beautiful about writing is you can keep that muscle strong by writing with other people.

Even if you're writing for someone else's record, you know, it's a beautiful thing. Do you think you use the same part of your brain when you're riding new licks? I think it's different parts. I mean, I think scientifically it's not. But to me, it's just like... What are you thinking about when you're riding a lick

versus when you're riding a line? Hmm. Lately, they've been kind of, you know, similar with each other. Because I've been riding of, you know, similar with each other because I've been writing a little more, uh, progressively, I guess. Um,

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You know, everything that's on your mind is coming out in a melodic way. Yeah, like that's what I'm trying to get. So what's on your mind though, Marcus? Like how are you feeling right now? You're very successful in your career. You're young. You got it all going on. in your career you're young you got it all going on are you trying are you is it a mindset of like maintaining it or is it a mindset of growing as a songwriter like what what's going on it's a

matter of growing as a group right now that's what's going through my mind and what's going through my mind is constantly growing but you start to find this weird place and for me it's like all right we got one bus now we want to get to two when we get it to so on and so forth it's a never ending it's a never anything you want to keep growing but at a certain point you're like i want to keep growing but i don't want to seem greedy but i don't want to be stagnant you know what i mean yeah so what's greedy to you then well i mean if you got four buses and you're like, I want eight buses. Yeah. To me, that seems greedy.

Yeah. But that's my mindset. That's how I work. But don't think of it as the buses. Think about the whole – it's like the project. Like eight buses means you're packing 20,000 seats. And I get that. That's a fucking great vision.

But if you can remain humble, you know, I think that that works, that process. What's going through my mind right now is that I'm happy

and I'm trying to figure out how to write happy songs. Yeah. You know, which is an interesting concept to me. Why? Because you've always been

just fucking sad and self-loathing? Ever since I was 13, when I started writing, it started with a traumatic, tragic thing of a friend of mine passing away in a car crash

when she was 13. It was this girl that I was into. First girl I was ever into. We talked about that before. So I've always written about, you know. Does that really fuck you up, man? Yeah.

Are you still holding on to that? I think it's something you never really let go of. Yeah? Yeah. Damn. Is that hard with your relationship now? I think I'm learning to grow past that.

My relationship now is very very good. How hard is it to keep a band together, dude? You're in love with eight dudes or five dudes. You can't fuck them. You just deal with all the other stuff yeah and it's a marriage it really is and you start to uh you start to understand that

you start to understand each other and it's like oh he's not mad at me he's just grumpy in the morning how hard is it to maintain a marriage with a band and a marriage with your girlfriend? It's funny you should ask. I mean, now that we have a bus and we have space, she's able to come hang out with us more when she's not focusing on her own thing. She's able to come out for runs with us. I've been in New Orleans. We're all at the same hotel together for a week you know we're not really doing the shit travel you know which it's more

comfortable now and it's more comfortable yeah when we were in a van i was like i don't want to bring you in a smelly van yeah with us to go play in these little dungeon-like rooms. I want you to wait until we're a little more comfortably rolling. So she comes out now and visits us more often. I'm so stoned I can't talk. No, but that's good. So I've been seeing her flying in and seeing you and stuff. Does that ruin the chemistry with the band? Is that hard to keep chemistry now that you have to you know you're you're building

attention with your girl and like you're falling in love and you guys are fucking getting you know you're doing all the things that can make you happy so how how do you share time and say hey i need to bond with the band yeah do those do those things? You know, my girl's really understanding of that, man. It's a beautiful thing. I think it's tough to find, but, you know, you build up such this team-like, family-like thing with your group, and that's just from, like, having the flu together in the middle of, like, Ohio in January, you know, sharing beds together.

You grow from those things and nobody's ever really going to reach you on that level. The shit that you guys have seen together. You know, it's almost like, you know, you all witnessed a murder together. It's ride or dies, man. Yeah. Like you said, like you almost died at fucking jam cruise yeah jam cruise who wants to die on jam cruise dude dude but it's like it's the same thing like you guys it's just we're traveling i think of musicians as explorers

yeah you know we are going into the unknown god forbid we're driving through the fucking night. Now we're not relying on our musicians to fucking drive us. We're relying on a stranger to drive us around in this big-ass bus. It's all these different responsibilities, and now you have to take care of the agent and saying no to shows and just it's just more and more on your plate and to see that you're fucking happy and you're fucking staying present you're cleaning up you're in love i'm fuck i'm just i'm fucking proud of you dude thanks man i love it man i appreciate you fucking kicking ass and it makes me proud to be to call

you a friend you know i'm proud to call you my friend man I appreciate you. You're fucking kicking ass, and it makes me proud to call you a friend. I'm proud to call you my friend, man. I appreciate it. You've always wanted to stay on the road? Absolutely. You want to be a songwriter? I mean, I love both, man. I think that's a big reason that I moved to Nashville was when I'm home,

I want to be able to do my second love, which is writing and learning new ideas from people and growing in that way. But when I'm on the road, this is my guys. And like I said, it's my family, and we're growing together. I love all of them. And to have a really understanding partner in life that'll be like, you guys do your thing. My grandma lives down two hours away.

She's going to come visit. Y'all do your thing. I'm going to go do that. It's really great to have someone understanding and to be growing together musically and as human beings. And I'm always encouraging for everybody to bring their lady, their partners. Come on the bus. Let's all hang together. You know, your family.

Strangers on the bus, we're a little stricter about. Yeah. Your family, obviously. But, I mean, just growing musically. Did you just say that? But what if, like, there's a trip where there's fucking 15 people on the bus? So do you share a bed with your girl? Well, right now we have a few junk bunks, as you call them.

So when it's time to sleep, you guys. Yeah. Which, that helps in any relationship, too. Like, how do you... No, I'm not even going to just vocalize. How do you fuck on the bus? Like, they're, like, small. I mean, like...

Yeah. There's rules, man. You can't do that. Not... You don't speak about it. I don't want to blast you. You don't speak about it if you do. You know, I always thought about that.

I'm like, damn, like, people bring the girls cool. But are these, like, what about, like, we're in a lounge area right now. Yeah. This turned into, like, a, like, don't some. Not a sex dungeon. I thought you were going to say sex dungeon. No, but, like, don't they have, like, you know, like, for a one-bedroom. Yeah, no, they do in some stuff.

It's a one-bedroom condos for some stuff. And then they have the bunks, too. Yeah, I mean, I know people that like them and some people that don't they just make they make it a bedroom back here yeah i kind of like the idea that you know you like this lounge area i have kind of a socialist mentality in most ways you know and with my band i'm like i want to be out there in the same bunk area it's not like we're exactly slumming it you know no

if I had a bedroom back here I'd feel like the biggest piece of shit you know I think about that too I'd probably feel like a piece of shit too

I mean if that's your thing that's cool man what about when you share like what if like you get do you guys do you get your own hotel room yeah

that was something that kind of started cause we used to do two rooms and we'd all share a bed. Yeah. Same here. Then everybody was like, we're not going to share a bed with Marcus anymore. Why do you snore? Fuck that.

I snore and I'm an aggressive cuddler. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, so you're just like, you're sleep cuddling. Yeah, I'm a sleep cuddler. And just like grab people and just like throw my leg over them. Yeah. And they're just like, I can't.

This is a hostile sleeping environment. Fucking Mordenwood. You pull up, you pull up trying to get a dangle on the kneecap. You're going to get a fucking kneecap of dick, dude. Shit. That's funny. Oh, so you're like, no. Get your own room. So that's when I started.'re like no right now get your own room so that's when i started

i just started sleeping on the floor and there was a long period of time where i was like you know i like to know that what i like is going to be there wherever we go there's always a floor i'm like carpet no carpet fuck it floor that's go floor? Just give me a blanket and a pillow. I went always floor because wherever we go, people would be like, ah, this mattress is a little firm. Yeah. Or whatever. But I'd always be like- Or this couch is too small.

This floor feels just like the last five floors I slept on. What's the most floors you slept on in a row? That's a tough question to answer. It was a long time there when we were touring we'd share rooms and there was just constant struggles between like you know late night johnnies at hotels

that were like four people to a room if you're putting more people in there it's $20 a person and we were like oh yeah no it's just the four of us and then we'd like wait in the van until he's like away and then we'd sneak two more people up in that room dude i do the same shit yeah so that shit and then me like pretending to be the band's manager phoning in up in the room just like my guys are tired and i hear you're giving them a hard time yeah

and then i love that i had to go downstairs in like a parka and like boxer shorts and boots in in the snow i don't remember where we were but i just go marching down there to talk to the manager that's the shit that i'm talking about you grow grow as a band through that shit. So I went to the floor, and then I went to, I was sharing rooms with people, and then my snoring got to be too much. Then I was finally like, you know what? What I want for this band to grow, because I took the role as leader,

I took the role as the president, quote-unquote, of the LLC that is the Marcus King Band. Look, you're a fucking adult. And King Family Touring. This is great, dude. I'm an adult, man. This makes me so proud, dude. I pay taxes.

So I took on that role. And what I wanted to do was like, you know, I'm going to invest in us. If there's not enough to go around after I get all my guys and my crew paid, then I just won't take on this one. I'm a firm believer in, you know, the boss should eat last, you know. It creates a healthier environment. Yeah. So the only thing I ever asked was, I just want my own room.

So that's what I do. I do my own room, and I think it's better for everybody that way. My snoring, my poor girlfriend has to put up with me, but, you know. Yeah, that's okay. The healthier I get, the less I snore too, so that's good. Yeah? You think so? I think so.

The less you're drinking. Yeah. And less you're like. My drunk snoring was like Gollum, just like. Really? Jack, my drummer, he's got some video of me just like dying. He's like, dude, you quit breathing for like 30 seconds. Dude, you got to look into that.

You think you might have sleep apnea? Yeah, I was sleeping on my back. Oh, okay. So what do you sleep on your? I'm a side sleeper. Yeah, me too. Does that fuck up your back though? No, but sometimes it does fuck with my hands.

Yeah. I always curl my hands in. Do you get numb or like right here? Yeah. I woke up in the morning and my hands weren't working, and I was like, kill me now. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, because I had slept on them for like hours. Oh, my God.

They were coming back awake, and I was like, okay. Dude, that's what happened to my buddy. He was sleeping like this and he spasmed and he couldn't move his arm for like three weeks. Fuck. And it was just like that. Yeah, like watch out for that because he had to get like steroid shots in his like elbows and shit. It was crazy. It's intense. Yeah.

Marcus, thanks for being on the show. Thanks for having me, man. Now, a message from the UN That was it That was good, but one last time Let's do it right now 1, 2, 3, 4 I got drunk and I was an asshole To my friends.

I got drunk again. Goddamn. Even got into it with my mom. Gonna be hearing about this one till she's gone Don't know how I got so fucked up in such a little time Like I was maintaining, but we all know that's a lie Why, why, why? My, my, my I got drunk

Again Why, why, why My, my, my Why, why, why I got drunk Goddamn Drew, uh, for, uh, hanging out, I got to hang out with him when he was in California, we talked about, he's a good guy, I like, I like hanging out with him, he's real, all those revivalist guys are real fucking sweet, and Marcus too, you know, it's, um, it's nice to see all my friends starting to

really take off in the, in their lives, and it's fun, oh, fun oh fuck guys i'm jet lag as fuck it's like six in the morning right now i just got into europe i'm in amsterdam area they call it utrecht it's like um a little college town near amsterdam basically like it looks like amsterdam pretty but less touristy it's real neat but uh fuck dude hung over not even hung over just jet lag dude you think after 15 years of being on the fucking road you'd be over jet lag but i'm not woke up i even try to you know those moments like if you take too much cocaine or if you, or if you're jet lagging, you just start, you know, beating off too much. Just to like relax yourself so you could eventually go to bed. I think that's what happened to me. I looked at my dick and i was like it was like

breathing heavy it looked like it was like stop i couldn't hear my dick just saying please fucking stop please stop but um i'm up i'm having i'm on my second cup of coffee i'm i'm craving like a euro meat i don't know every time i come into europe i always want to eat fucking euro meat but um i had a crazy couple weeks man have anyone has anyone done peach fest before that shit is tight everyone is it's a fucking music festival in like scranton pennsylvania somewhere in pennsylvania we just played it last week and before i had to get to um before i had to fly here for our european tour it's a fucking music festival on a water park guys do you understand that do you get it's so it was so tight it's like i felt like you know like me being a single 30-year-old man,

31-year-old man going to a water park by myself. Pounding 40s isn't a good look, but when you're with a bunch of other people taking drugs and shit and going on water slides. It's fucking awesome. So shout out to Peach Fest. Thanks for having me on the festival. Um, I did, uh, what else? Oh, I went, oh guys. Oh my God. I went on this fucking yacht with my homies and it was, it was a couple's retreat, but I, um, I didn't bring a girl. I brought my piano and I bought a bunch of mushrooms and some L. And I got asked to write music for a new Judd Apatow movie about Gary Goldman, the comedian on the show.

about Gary Goldman, the comedian on the show. And so I went out there, I went to isolate and take some LSD and just fucking look at some fucking stars and shit and try to get inspired to write this music for this movie. And I took DMT. Holy shit. That was, you know, after talking with Billy Strings, you know, I was expecting, like, fucking alien people to, like, come up and be like, what up, homie?

What's going on? How you doing, Frasco? Good to see you. But it wasn't like that at all. I definitely was hallucinating because I took, it was, have you ever guys taken DMmt out of a vaporizer it was it looked like a weed pen but it tastes like shit and um i so i did it i'm like fuck it i'm blasting off let's go so i took too much and i started looking at the stars saying all right when are these aliens

going to come out and then all of a sudden I closed my eyes and I started hallucinating. And I saw this big ass spaceship. It was like a dark, dark metallic black thing like go over me. And I saw a door and I was trying to get in the door or like just not like knock or anything because I wanted to be if these were really aliens i'm not gonna fucking knock on a door like they're either gonna let me in or not because they probably saw me from miles away and um they wouldn't let me in i was just staring and all of a sudden like my subconscious like the person who talks to me in my soul whenever i need to like have a powwow came out like hey'm like, Hey, what are you doing here? Like, what the fuck are you doing? He talked to me. I'm like, I don't know. I, you know, I'm here.

And, um, I was just like asking questions like, am I okay? Am I doing good in life? You know, am, am I on the right path and shit? And I don't, I didn't see anybody, but it was that subconscious you know the soul talking to you kind of feeling and he's like yeah you're fine you're fine you put like new blood in me and shit and he's like the only thing you need to do is stop smoking i'm like that's the only thing i i don't have to do and um i'm like yeah what about like i'm gonna ask this the alien or whatever in my fucking hallucination what would have like um what about my lifestyle is everything okay it's like how am

i am i writing songs am i feeling better about things and he's like yeah everything's fine you just gotta stop smoking and he also said something that really resonated to me. It's like, slow down. Slow life down. I think it's very important because, you know, we go through life like, oh, I just listened to this Chance the Rapper song. It's called Five Year Plan. And he talks about this. I like Chance.

He's got an old soul too. But he talks about just slowing it down like how we are afraid not afraid but like you gotta plan vacations now like two years in advance you gotta like plan to take a break because life will consume you it'll consume and consume and consume you and you're never gonna have time for yourself And I was like burning the candle at both ends. I'm trying to score this movie. I'm trying to make a new record while I'm on tour, and it's festival season, so I'm getting fucked up with my friends.

I want to live too. I don't want to just work my mandirs up my ass about just getting right just staying staying focused staying focused staying focused so i'm i'm staying focused but sometimes you just need a break from real so like this dmt thing ripped me the fuck out but ever since that trip i've been so mellow and i haven't been worried about things as much and I haven't been, I don't know, so anxious. I'm letting life come. I'm letting relationships develop. I'm not forcing anything. And since that, I've been way more happier. It's like that

peace of mind. You're not going to be happy unless you have peace of mind so maybe i don't know maybe it's what's going on with my career that's giving me peace of mind or maybe that alien really said something to me i should i should stop smoking though because ever since that i have been smoking a lot i shouldn't fucking stop smoking but um I shouldn't fucking stop smoking. But yeah, it was just a crazy moment. DMT is, now I get it. The drug is, it's pretty therapeutic. I wouldn't say take it every day.

I don't get why it's in a fucking vaporizer form for people to use on a daily basis. I think that's like a soul-searching thing. It's like, I just took LSD. I don't really take a lot of LSD because I don't like take a lot of LSD. Because I don't like fucking tripping out. I'm like, ah, that was up for like eight hours. That's why I like mushrooms.

Take a couple, you know, eat a couple stems. And fucking relax. A couple, you know, be present. Get off my phone a little bit. But LSD was nice. Like I was just, I took a bunch of L and started, and we had, like, five or four jet skis, and, um, we had this power boat, and we were on a fucking yacht, it was just in, like, the middle of the ocean, it looked like Mars with water, and it was, it was so relaxing to be present, and to write, and not worry about the future, not worry about the shows I have to do

next week, or, or worry about who I haven't text back yet, you know, that's, all that shit is fucking, you know, like, because we are, we're all good people, we all want to take care of what we need to take care of, we're not fucking degenerates, you know, sometimes we just gotta we're not fucking degenerates, you know, sometimes we just gotta get out of our own heads, and like, and take a holiday from real, you know, and LSD was, it was, it was awesome, I loved it, shout out to the homie who hooked me up with that, it was fucking clean, you know, it was scary, you know, you know, flying with all that shit, but sometimes you got to do what you got to do. But it was a great experience.

I would definitely do it again. I don't know if I'm going to take DMT again. That was fucking, well, for a while. I feel good. I feel like you take those drugs when you need to be content with or if you have some questions you need to ask. But I thought it was so crazy. Why did the aliens give me new blood? Maybe they're, I don't know.

It was fucking weird. But also maybe it's because my grandpa's dying and I'm worried about lung cancer and I'm worried about smoking. So I probably should stop smoking as I smoke this joint right now at 6 a.m. But how's everyone doing? Everyone feeling good?

Yeah, I'm sorry I took a week off I've just been so busy But I'm here I'm back in your lives We got a new style of music We got a metal band Called Every Time I Die On the show next week It's gonna be fun I'm in Europe right now Europe is crazy It's festival season We've got a metal band called Every Time I Die on the show next week.

It's going to be fun. I'm in Europe right now. Europe is crazy. It's festival season. So I'm going to be on location asking Europeans what they think of Americans. And I'll sprinkle those in for the next. I'm here for the next, I don't know, two and a half weeks. I got about 10 days in two weeks and then i have five days off i decided to fly to berlin so i'm going to berlin um for like four or

five days i got hooked up um over there so i'm just gonna i'm almost i i've written eight record songs for this record i need five i need like five or six more and then um then i'll pick the best 11 but i'm liking it you know it's like when you are you guys like this too when when you're on a project and you're trying you know you just you know task ahead make songs make songs write songs write songs or you know build spreadsheets or whatever the fuck y'all do and um you know that moment where it's like you just don't think you just do it and then you take a step back for a couple weeks and re-listen to them or re-look at what you think and sometimes like oh damn i was in a weird headspace there or why did i fuck that up or yada yada and i haven't

felt that way towards these songs yet, which is pretty good feeling. Cause I'm normally overanalyze every fucking beat, every note. So I'm really proud of this. And then the, the, the movie I scored for HBO is coming out in October, which is going to be fucking dope.

And, um, yeah, I'm just like, I'm, I'm, I'm pumping through all cylinders right now and it feels good. And, um, yeah, I'm just like, I'm, I'm, I'm pumping through all cylinders right now and it feels good. And, um, the reason why I bring that up is because whatever you want to do in

life, figure out a way to use your full presence. You know, it doesn't, if you're, if something's distracting you and it's, and this is, and the thing that from the thing you absolutely want to do, take a step back. Stay present. We could be in our heads. We could get lost in our fucking heads so much because of other people's opinions over whoever. Sorry, I'm going to have a cup of coffee.

Hold on. Through anybody's opinion, maybe our parents think we're fucking degenerates or our girlfriends or boyfriends, you know, aren't happy with us not talking to them or being vulnerable, whatever the fuck it is. Take a step back. Think about when you're in a situation

where you, this is like your passion. It doesn't matter if it's bike riding or songwriting or whatever, fucking wake surfing. I went wake surfing. That was fucking tight. I learned how to surf. That was tight.

I was in the present because I really wanted to do it. Don't let your mind distract you from the little things you love. Because like I said, there'll be one day you're not going to be able to do that stuff anymore. God forbid you have, you get,

you know, sick or something takes it away. So enjoy the present, be focused with whatever you got to do. And, uh, yeah, that's why I'm going to Berlin and that's why we're going to Sardinia.

So it's like, I am, I'm in Europe for three weeks. I don't have a lot of internet connections. Hopefully this podcast comes out. If it doesn't, you'll get it eventually. That's it, guys.

I'm just jabbering. Like I said before, every time I die on the show, I interviewed Mo, which was fucking tight. That was my first time hanging out with Mo. I didn't know that guy had cancer. Holy fuck. Damn. Think about being in a band with a guy time hanging out with mo and um i didn't know that guy had cancer holy fuck damn think about being in a band with a guy where you are having a band meeting and all of a sudden you're talking about finances and stuff and all of a sudden it's one of the guys time's talking and he's like well

guys i got cancer makes you realize all the other things don't matter. You know? So take care of yourselves. Be present. We never know when it's our turn to leave the party. Shout out to Rob for fucking fighting that shit. It's hard to throw cancer. It's fucked up.

That's it. I love you. Be safe out there. I hope everything is treating you well. I hope life fucking treating you well I hope life Fucking kicks ass for you And We got shows I'm doing Lockin' I'm excited for

Subscribe to the podcast Be our friends on Instagram And shit at World Saving Podcast And what not But most of all take care of yourselves Because What this festival season taught me is we're so much happier

when we're off our fucking phones so stay off your phone for a second and enjoy the outside look at your friends to the left and right of you take care of each other alright guys I'll see you later love ya wear condoms comb your hair

and I will see you next week during the European version or the European episode of the World Saving Podcast. Love you. Bye. Well, thank you for listening to episode 54 of Andy Fresco's World Saving Podcast, produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angel, how and chris lawrence please subscribe and rate the show on itunes and spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon for info on the show please head to our instagram at world saving podcast for more info on the blog and tour dates

head to andy fresco.com you can still listen to our last album Change of Pace on iTunes and Spotify Andy makes me say that every week, so please do it This week's co-host is Andrew Campolani from The Revivalists And this week's guest is Marcus King Find him online at marcuskingband.com And for you to enjoy, we had two songs this week Drunk Again, played by The UN And Andy Arvilland's Sean Eccles sang their romantic masterpiece you to enjoy. We had two songs this week. Drunk Again, played by the UN, and Andy Avalon and Sean Eccles sang their romantic masterpiece entitled Fucking. The captain has reached

the old world. All hands are aboard. We broke through the first surf and we're about to sail some stormy waters to some barren shores. As a cracking thunderstorm unleashes its gushing disapproval, we now anchor down in Hanover, in Germany, not New Hampshire. Because the old hamps just find for us. Anyway, strangely enough, we find ourselves underneath a swimming pool, right in the foxhole,

right in the forecastle, and we're ready to enter the barge about to barge in. Yes, but first, we drink! Yo-ho, and a bottle barge in. Yes, but first we drink. Yo-ho and a bottle of Jägermeister, you land-lubbering pod people. Ha!