Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 62: Vince Herman and Friends (Leftover Salmon)

Episode Date: October 15, 2019

Andy and the band visit Charleston, SC and have a little get together with some friends: Vince Herman, Rev. Jeff Moiser, and an assortment of other characters. Todd Glass tells us just what he would do if elected president. Dolav introduces us to Frasco's Fantasy Basketball League. And a very happy birthday to the Voice of voices, our very own: Arno Bakker. We love you, buddy. This is EP 62. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Keep up with our pal, Vince Herman at leftoversalmon.com and the inimitable, Todd Glass at toddglass.com Check out Andy's new album, "Change Of Pace" on iTunes and Spotify Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Shawn Eckels Travis Gray Andee Avila Todd Glass Ahri Findling Arno Bakker 

Good afternoon Mr. Fresco, this is Michael Bryan, I'm the tour manager for the F***ing Revolution. We have used Slate as the opening act on the last leg of the 2019 tour and I just wanted to go through some of the rules that we have for our openers. No drugs or women backstage. No crowd surfing. No spraying the crowd with booze of any kind. No liquid on the stage except water. Please try and keep all liquid away from the equipment. If you break it, you buy it policy. You can curse on stage, but you can only use words like shit and bitch. No fucks, cocks, pussies, anals, that kind of stuff you get to drift.

Let's see, what else? Oh, yeah, don't use the band's bathroom to take any shits. There'll be a port-a-potty out back from your dressing room you guys can use for that kind of stuff. Okay, we're excited to have you. All right, boys, let's show them who we are. We're in the opening band. We're in the opening band.

They gave us too many rules. They think we're fucking fools. We're in the opening band We're in the opening band We're in the opening band Our monitors have no bass, we get no parking space We're in the opening band We get no artist pass, bartender serves us last, we're in the opening band.

Can't get in VIP, cause nobody knows me, we're in the opening band. Won't let me bring in my sister, or use the headliner's pisser, we're in the opening band. Let's start the show. All right. Another day alive. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's everyone doing?

How's your heads? How's your minds? Your hearts? I hope you're all kicking fucking ass this week. Special guest. Our guest, our interviewer bailed on us this week, but it was perfect because I have Vince Herman with me today. Back again. Back again. Vinny.

In the Frasco zone. Oh, man. Every time I see you, I smile. Well, you know, I mean, it's important to have friends out here on the highway, you know, to make you feel good. And brother, every time I see you, I grin. Yeah. It's important to keep your head on straight out here on the road. How fucking hard is that? Man, it's a challenge.

Do you have to check yourself every day? Well, I go home every week. So that helps, you know. I want to talk about your new Denver life, too. It's exciting. You're like a... It is, man. You're vibrant. You're, that helps, you know, talk about your new Denver life too. It's exciting. You're like a, it is man. You're vibrant.

You're glowing. Yeah. Last time I saw you and we talked, you know, in Europe going through, you know, whatever you're going through, it's,

it's good to see you glowing or getting, trying to get back to that, you know? Oh yeah. We all need to realign sometime, you know? And, uh,

do you feel like you're on the path to realigning? Absolutely. Absolutely. How do you do that? How do you, do you well number one you get a good community yeah you get in a good community you know that's that's that's the number one you know is is you gotta you gotta have friends and and and things that you do like make music or you know or or uh go get firewood or something yeah that kind of thing around this time of year. But yeah, it's important to have an extended clan that you fit yourself into so that all those things, those voices going around in their head,

have some other things to entertain your brain. I know, right? Other than just the voices in your own head telling yourself you're fucked or whatever. What do you normally get anxious about? You know, money. Money. money's probably the biggest one you know do you spend a lot of money yeah i like to spend money me too yeah you know my my son no man you know i mean proof of evolution you know he's an amazing musician uh you know both my boys are amazing with colin and silas silas is is you know, he's making shit for money a year. And he's got a savings account, man.

He's got a good credit score and stuff like that. You know, like, man, I don't have either of them. Oh, my God. So where'd he learn it from? Seeing me run around and spend all my money, I guess. I don't know. What's the dumbest thing you spent your money on? Dumbest thing I spent my money on.

Oh, this weekend. Yeah. Yeah, man. We were checking in, checking bags. And Greg Garrison, our bass player, as it sends me a text as I'm getting the thing. Hey, there are two bag tags for you under Allison's name. So we had, you know, so in case there were extra bags we'd have two more so i get my two bags on there uh silas checks in with no bags i never did check in to get bags and the dude says okay so you're

checking three well that'll be you know they're gonna have to be a charge for the bag and i didn't even realize that you know silas had two bags to check I had two bags I could check And I checked these under Allison And we still ended up paying for a third bag That was the stupidest thing I spent money on Most recently It's crazy because

When you're on the road I think I spend more money when I'm on the road Than off the road Why do you think we're doing that? Because it's fake money? If you like to eat like i do and you know you you can you can eat three meals a day on the road and you know yeah you know blow it off and if they're good meals which i like to have yeah uh you know oh fucking vince it's so good to see you man so what's tell me are you feeling good absolutely yeah you know you know. Oh, fucking Vince. It's so good to see you, man. So what's, tell me, are you feeling good?

Absolutely. Yeah. You know, you know, I mean, this old, this old truck is getting pretty banged up after lots of mileage on it, but you know, I wouldn't say I'm physically the healthiest specimen on the planet earth, but I'm mentally, I'm, I'm doing pretty damn good. Do you still love playing music? Absolutely. absolutely absolutely i mean that you know i play music for free they just pay me to travel yeah you know it's the travel that really eats you up you know but man for that time you get on stage man that that's what it still makes it worthwhile for me you know that that bit of time still makes it worth doing all the other crazy shit you ever been so down and you know i feel like you just feel like shit and then right when you get on that stage it's like you it's like dopamine right or have you ever been like so yeah you know i don't know what it is that

but man yeah it's a switch it's a switch you definitely turn on and off and and and you know i think you know those times that you go into the show feeling, you know, that existential, what are we doing here? Why are we doing this? And, you know, but I think that's... Why do you think that is? I think that's like an earth rhythm. I think there are some nights

when, like, the whole planet just shouldn't be playing music. Yeah. You know, it's just like everybody's just standing there looking at each other like, what are we doing here? How did you get, really? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm like, there's not that momentum in the crowd. There's not, you know, a feeling of celebration. It's weird when you get existential on. That's why I don't use in-ear monitors. Dude, me too. It hurts. I put those things in my ears and all of a sudden I'm all internal

and I'm like... Yeah, because you don't... You hear... You're overthinking. Is that life too when we overthink things? Like, you know, going back to... I know it's a fucking skipping record

on this podcast, but like I'm trying to figure out mental health and how people are afraid to talk about, like you said, it could be something that we have no control over. It could be the fucking moon day or whatever the fuck, the third eye woke.

It's like we don't know. How do we fight that stigma? You've had some people pass away that were really close to you over not communication, right? Not knowing or did you feel like you knew that they were going through a rough patch? I had a friend who committed suicide a little over a year ago. And yeah, he was talking about it. You know, I'm going to do this.

And for like a few months. And everybody talked to him and tried to get him into a thing. They were like, you know, but it was like eventually he did. Yeah. No one believed it? Yeah. Because he kept on saying it? Yeah, he did, man.

And he did check in for a little while, came back out. The math just wasn't adding up for him. You can't watch your friends constantly. It's tough to even bring up because we're scared to ask for help.

Yeah, especially as musicians, we're scared to ask for help yeah especially you know as as musicians we're supposed to be the guys you know uh being the life of the party and yeah and uh you know getting this thing going does that drain you sometimes when when you're not feeling like getting it going uh it's tough but so yeah somewhere between that magic of stepping on the stage and the button being pushed to go you know sometimes that works most of the times that works i said 95 of the time it works but there's sometimes man when you're just struggling to get through you know i i i'd listened to jeff austin's last show and and he was having a hard time saying anything between songs. I could hear it

in his voice. And you know him personally where you wouldn't understand his show when he's on. His banter. That must have been fucking tough, dude. Yeah, it was. You know, but

I think Jeff was really particularly burdened with having to be that life of the party guy. You know, so you have to somehow be yourself and that stage person. Hopefully that stage person can incorporate all these feels. Yeah. You know, like i was thinking about you guys i heard you were doing a two-hour set today yeah i mean i played last night how could you keep up that frasco dude for two hours i mean i mean at what point in the set do you bring

it down and when when do you when do you bring it on down and outgreen them? You taught me this. You're a band. I listen to Southern Bell. Yeah. And I'm so in love with that song right now. And how you put that song in the... It's the arc. It's a wave.

And I'm learning that. I can't just go full frasco. I just spoke myself in third person. Sorry about that. But you know what i mean donald trump does it too man don't worry oh geez no but it's true like we can't i can't sustain that and i learned that and like how do you sustain because you're you were the party man when you're in in your younger your younger youth years youthful years and you still have the stigma, like we do,

that we are a good time. So how do you get out of that in your head saying, oh, the people just want me to have a good time and really break it down and really do the songs you want to do or play the music you want to play? Has that been a hard thing for you? I guess over the years,

I've become more comfortable with the idea that people don't just want to have has that been a hard thing for you know i guess over over the years i've become more comfortable with the idea that people don't just want to have a good time you know they they want to interact with me yeah and and i'm allowed to be more than just the big happy boy now because i've become more and more comfortable with all that i go through and not necessarily needing to push the big party button but maybe talk about the house of cards talk about trump talk about woody guthrie talk about about depression talk about hard times doing doing those kind of things and i think you think bluegrass music certainly has always had plenty of room to talk about gloom and doom and despair and all that stuff. So bluegrass is, being in the bluegrass genre,

leaves a little more room for that. So bluegrass, I'm sorry that I'm playing, I'm dumb about this, but bluegrass is like the blues. You're singing about hardship? Absolutely. Absolutely. Bluegrass is Appalachian music combined with the blues and this blue yodel that this guy used to sing on the railroad tracks

when Bill Monroe was growing up. He got some of his blues into the old-timey music and created bluegrass music as a combination of genres that allowed more feeling into old-timey music. What made you fall in love with that type of music? Man, you know, I was at a festival in Pittsburgh, I think I was in seventh grade, maybe eighth grade, and took a bus into town and saw these cats at this festival, like 40 people standing around in a circle, all playing tunes.

And it occurred to me, like, they might have just met each other at this thing. And here are 40 people playing this tune together. And they just kept on playing other tunes and stuff. And I was like, whoa, that's what you can do with music? How old were you? At that point, I was in seventh or eighth grade. And I realized, wow, if I learn this stuff, I've been playing music three or four years already at that point.

You started in fourth grade? What the fuck? Well, actually, I just always did. No, I just started to learn how to play guitar officially. But, I mean, I played piano as a kid. I first auditioned for my first band. I think I'm maybe like four years old. I had a drum kit.

And I played the audition. There's a song called Wendy. Who's peeking out from under the stairway. Everyone knows it's Wendy. And I remember playing the You're just playing the melody? Yeah, on the drums, yeah And I got in, man

You got in the band? Yeah, man Hal Barber, Pete Zinski, man All the guys, yeah Do you like drums? Neighborhood band Do you like drums? I love drums

Yeah There's Cyrus Oh, there's Cyrus Oh, I want to talk to him, too Yo, talk to me Have you ever tried to commit suicide? No I had one dark night

What happened? I was just I was just freshly divorced Made it clear That my second divorce was going to be happening Hold on Explain, made it clear It was a very ugly situation

i yeah i uh i walked into and and uh had to leave the next morning to to go on the road and and uh you know got to the place that night wasn't playing till the next day and just uh got to stay on on site at the festival promoter's house. And it was just torture sitting in there by myself. Couldn't sleep. I was just too absolutely distraught to do anything but hope for daylight to come back and start another round. You know, that's about as dark as I've ever seen it. What were you thinking about in that dark time? Oh, man.

Failed marriage, you know, a loss of my family kind of situation. You know, my life was going to be changing immensely. And I wasn't too psyched about it yeah you know um but but it was going to happen anyways are you scared to change yeah yeah i guess uh yeah i have been at times you know yeah you know i am too yeah like i don, I, that's my biggest fear is changing. And, but I have to. We all evolve. Yeah.

You know, I get anxious. I've been super anxious the last couple months. And, you know, just with everything going on and how I'm portrayed and how, you know, I don't want to be just the party guy. You know, I want to, I want to have, I want to talk about things, you know? And it was just, it's been been like, as I'm getting more successful and more successful, you don't have time to think about how you're feeling.

Do you think a lot of these guys have too much time thinking about how they're feeling that they start overthinking about the life that they have and how when you take a step back it's it's kind of a gift that we get to do this every day right well man you just need

to remember man you're you're you're creating this this andy frasco persona yeah and live while living it yeah and you know remember you include all in that i mean you talk about some crazy stuff in your podcast you get in deep emotional. You could do that on stage, too. Yeah. They're coming to see Andy Frasco and all of his dimensions. Yeah. Yeah.

You can do this. You can bring more to that chaos. Yeah. Because we're all living in chaos at all times man you know yeah and sure there's a role to be played coming out and freaking fasco raging you know and and you will continue to do that and and you can express the angst and the and the anxiety that you have, and people are going to be right there with you because we all swim in the same pool, man.

That's what I'm saying. So why are we afraid to talk about it? If we're all feeling these fucking weird feelings, why are we so scared to be vulnerable about those things? Well, right now we're in Charleston, South Carolina. And now say you're at a cocktail party in Charleston. You know? Yeah.

Sunset and you're looking at the nice, beautiful waves upon the back sound there. People are wearing nice white cotton garments, clean shoes and stuff like that. And, you know, you get a cocktail party, you don't bring up the fact that your third cousin's fucking your ex. You know, and then, you know, you don't talk about stuff like that. You talk about proper cocktail things. Yeah.

And you don't even bring up Trump. Yeah. You know? Yeah. proper cocktail things yeah and you don't even bring up trump yeah you know yeah so you know people uh there are are cultures in which things remain unexpressed and and and it's not polite to bring up politics religion on that fucking third cousin of yours yeah you know i mean you know so so i think it's some residual manners that involve not bringing up emotional turmoil in public. Well, it's like the same thing. Like, can you be vulnerable with someone you love?

Absolutely. Yeah? Is that one thing you're strong at? Yeah. Being completely, like, communicative? I think so. what about with your band yeah maybe a little less so yeah why do you think we because we plow ahead we plow ahead you know yeah you know somebody somebody uh you know does this thing that bugs you

but it ain't gonna change change. Yeah. Fuck it. Live with it. Yeah. You know? Don't let it get you. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, it's like, it's hard to keep a band together, man. Oh, man.

Is that one of the hardest things you ever had to do? Yeah, you know, but you can't be afraid to change either. Yeah. You know, I mean, yeah, you try to create an environment where everybody is able to express themselves. I view my job as a harvester of the people in my band. I could never pass an audition to get into this band. So my job is to make sure that the people that are in it get to express themselves fully. And that's what I aim at delivering when I get up there, aside from...

The glue. Yeah. That's how I feel. If I auditioned for my band, I would never get in it. I mean, that's why I think we're kindred spirits in a way where we understand our role in a group. What do you think your role is in this thing?

What do you think your role is in life? Wow. A reminder to hold on to that which is good and celebrate it. to hold on to that which is good and celebrate it and also to delve deep into what can make our society and our country, our world better and maybe try to sing about that a little bit while talking about drinking and dancing and having a good time. Let's talk about that.

What do you think we could do to make this world better? Well, one of the things we could do is we could rebuild this theater in Martinsville, Virginia. Yeah. That Johnny Buck, our buddy Johnny Buck,

has been doing shows down there in Martinsville, Virginia. Hey, Johnny, welcome to the show. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Oh, excellent. Thank, Johnny, welcome to the show. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Oh, excellent. Thank you.

Weed beer. Wicked weed. Excellent. You know, we've been talking about Johnny Buck here, who runs the Rooster Walk Festival and all kind of good things. And I was just saying, you know, Andy was asking, how do we make the world a better place? And the first thing I said was, well,

there's this theater in Martinsville, Virginia that burnt burnt down and there's this town that needs a music venue and johnny buck's been filling that role the place burns down so now what do you do yeah i mean we're working on that we're a non-profit uh and we turned the old theater about 10 years ago into a live music venue. It's a small town, Martinsville, Virginia, about 14,000 people. And September the 8th, it caught fire and burned down. Did you buy it? No. So we were renting it. It was built in 1928.

And a family, the Brown family, had been the owners for decades. And so they were the owners, but it looks like we're going to have to rally the community and hopefully pursue some grant funding in order to create a new music venue. How hard is it to run a fucking venue, dude? So I will say in our town, it's a small town, and we can't do like alex

and vanessa at the poorhouse and have like eight and ten bands a week which is amazing it blows my mind charleston's pretty amazing charleston poorhouse doing doing multiple bands almost every single day of the week we do a couple shows a month because it's a small town does it do you think it really relies on the community though absolutely? Absolutely. To be full in on making music a part of their everyday life? Absolutely. I mean, you need the community support. And then when you bring in nationally touring acts that have devoted fan bases, you'll get some of those out-of-town people who come in.

Yeah. But you got to have that base with you from the local music fans. Because you do Rooster Walk, too, right? That's right. The festival. Where's that at? That's right. The festival. Where's that at? That's in Martinsville as well. It's at Pops Farm,

which is a beautiful outdoor music venue in the county. Have you done Rooster Walk? Absolutely. Beautiful place, man. Yeah. How important is live music to you then? If you lose your ass.

Do you lose your ass on shit? We've taken our share of hits. But it's really important to me. And, you know, we have a pretty unique story. What is it? Rooster Walk is named after, well, first of all, William Baptist and I are the co-founders of Rooster Walk. We grew up together in Martinsville.

We had a really tight group of friends from kindergarten on because it's a small town. So you go to the same elementary school, you go to the same middle school, same high school with all your buddies. Two of them passed away within about two years of each other. Oh, shit. From what? When we were 24 and 25 years old. Edwin Penn, whose nickname was The Rooster, died in a dirt bike accident.

Oh, shit. And then about 13 months later, Walker passed away from an undiagnosed heart condition in his sleep in his own bed on a sunday night you know wake up how old were they they were uh about mid-20s 24 25 years old 25 26 what do you think you learned from that i mean well number one you learned that um you need to appreciate the present which is our the motto of our festival and our non-profit company the need to appreciate the present which is our the motto of our festival and our non-profit company the motto is appreciate the present because there's no such thing as a guarantee in life you know as far as tomorrow may not come and even when you're having a bad day

at least you're having a day yeah you're fucking right man we're just talking about this it's so important like i feel like venue owners and festival owners don't get enough credit for what they're doing because they're putting their blood, sweat, and tears into a space for people that can create art. Here these guys are. They've been renting this place.

It burns down. They've got shows on the books and they're trying to figure out where to do the shows now because the community needs it. Right? you know you know speaking about being happy though festival can go good things are going great but what does that have to do with your inner happiness that you know this this is one of the things you know uh when speaking about neil casal he had a great weekend at bonnaroo at lockett you know had a great weekend at Bonnaroo, at Lockett. You know, had a great weekend. And it was like, wow, what could, you know, how, it seems to be a disconnect between

your internal happiness and what happens to you externally, whether you're doing a festival or your theater burns down or, you know, how you handle that is more than just the situation you find yourself in. How can you bring yourself to these situations as a stronger being? What do you feel, Johnny? You're dealing with your theater burnt down. How do you? I think on that mental health stuff, and Andy, props. I'm a big fan of the pod, and this is pretty surreal for me to be on it right now.

But you talk a lot about mental health, and I think it's something that makes people uncomfortable. But that's also one of the reasons, in my opinion, that it's such a big problem, because people are uncomfortable talking about it when they have an issue. I think, like you're hitting on, Vince, folks feel like, hey, I have a successful job. I'm doing great. I should be happy. I'm supposed to be happy. So I'm going to put on a show for people that I am happy and just try to shove all this sadness and depression down inside me

and ball it up and shove it in a little box. That's not healthy. And that eventually will erupt know erupt and and and cause big problems for people yeah it's about how folks deal with their emotions and especially the negative emotions it's like it's like that it's like the task or the goal thing where it's like oh once i get once i play 500 for 500 people i'm gonna be. Or once I get on fucking Bonnaroo, I'm going to be happy. Or once I play the fucking Opry, I'm going to be happy.

And then you play the Opry and you play Bonnaroo and you're still not fucking happy. And then it goes down to figuring out what your inner happiness is. Because you love this venue so much that it burned down.

You're figuring out every way to make it work so the inner happiness of what you're bringing to the community defeats any fucking fire or any thing that's going to be a hardship right it you know it's it's got to that's the only option right otherwise there's no long-term venue and um and a little town in southwest virginia loses its its musical home yeah it's fucking honorable man the um the other thing i do want to mention um i'd be remiss if i didn't is that um with our non-profit you know it's in memory of walker shank and edwin penn and so i'm very proud to say that uh we've done uh about 120 000 to the scholarship fund at martin's hill high school that's named after walker and ed say that we've done about $120,000 to the scholarship fund at Martinsville High School that's named after Walker Nablin.

We've also started a music instrument program for the city and county school band programs where folks donate the old saxophone that's been in the closet since Marching Band. We pay to fix it up. We pay to fix it up. We donate it to the band director so that the idea is that no kid in entry-level band who wants to try out band but maybe can't afford an instrument, no kid gets turned away who has an interest in joining band because the band program now owns instruments that they can loan to a kid the first two years. Wow. Dude, fuck yes, dude. That's what I'm talking about. Doing things with intention, like Brucey says, dude. That's what I'm talking about. Doing things with intention, like Bruce, he says, right?

That's right. Man, thanks for being on the show. We should get Alex in here, too. You got to get Alex. This is like a real talk show, Vince. We're in a bus. We're talking to festival promoters. Let's get him. Get in here.

Alex. Hey, Alex. You're up next. You're up next. Get in there. Next contestant.. Hey, Alex. You're up next. You're up next. Get in there. Next contestant here. Come on, Alex. On Asda.

Alex ran this festival. Give Alex an intro. Ladies and gentlemen, from Charleston, South Carolina, Alex and Vanessa Harris, owners of the Charleston Poorhouse, an iconic music venue that's been going 17 years strong and does literally more than one show a day. They have more than seven shows a week every week.

What's up, dude? What's up, man? How you doing? I'm great. We're at your festival. Thanks for paying Vince and I to be here, dude. I know. It's crazy. I appreciate it, man. I think I pre-paid you. Yeah, dude. Bon Jovi is a fucking shark, dude. to be here dude I know it's crazy I appreciate it man I think I pre-paid you yeah dude Bon Jovi was a fucking shark

I don't usually do that shit my agent will say hey man what the fuck oh yeah yeah it's a month out yep we need to be paid in full

I'm like well they haven't done shit yet they're not even here what if they don't show up how hard is that when you have like when you're like taking a risk

on a big band and you have to pay the deposit before even tickets are sold I mean that's like you're it's risky doing music five days a week and having guarantees and how is that tough yeah it is no i was saying close the door cool close it all the way there sorry uh yeah it's risky there risk involved. Do you love it still? Yeah, I love it a lot. Is it hard to do something that was a hobby and that you loved and turn it into a business? I don't know if it was ever a hobby for me. Well, I played in a band.

Yeah. But, I mean, I haven't really thought about it that way. I kind of just did something I loved and then it turned into being able to make a living at it. It wasn't like I set out for, do you feel that over that time that you've been doing, how many years have the poor house been there? 17,

2020 will be 18. I was 23 and we've been vanessa and i have been doing it the whole time it's been us it's not like me alone it's been us you know many incarnations man the cuban restaurant that like all these great great different restaurants you've had over there but my question is do you feel like in those 17 years you've been doing the poor house, you've created a community that wouldn't exist otherwise in Charleston? Well. I think you have.

You said it right. I mean. I do too. I don't. It was there. The people are there. A place for them to gather. Yes, we created.

We didn't create what it is. We created the place they could all come and do their thing. Is that important to you? Oh my God, it's my life. Tell me about that. What do you love about it? Everything. Yeah.

I love live music i love music i love connecting with human beings like the you guys vince mosier bruce yeah they're my people they're the people that we think about all the time. It's like, I love you. I love all of this. I mean, we, you know. It's pretty amazing, man, because you could tell when, because every time I come to the poor house, your staff is the same philosophy. They love their bands. They love the support.

I see, I see even people that your bartenders will come and if we're playing two hours away in Savannah and they show up to fucking Savannah, dude! That's good. That's respect. I mean, that's like you love this scene and you're trying to help it.

How do you think we could keep growing this scene, this festival scene, this live music scene, and just in general, just music? You're a help to this. Well, I think that just having more people like us doing it, people that aren't just in it for financial gain, people that are in it for the soul gain. People like Jeff Mosier. Like Bruce Hampton. What did Bruce teach you?

Oh my God. What a loaded question. I'm going to try and keep it together because I'm a little emotional. I'm a little tired. Just to have no ego. Bruce Hampton. Bruce Hampton. For the audience. Oh, I'm sorry. Colonel Bruce Hampton. Bruce Hampton. For the audience.

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, Colonel Bruce Hampton. He played at my place annually at least two times a year until he died. Yeah. What do you guys, I don't know much about Bruce, only from the stories Vinny tells me and the stories

that Dave Schools tells me. What do you... What was his philosophy, guys? Why does everyone love this man so much? I don't think he... You go ahead, Vince. Because he was present. He was absolutely present in the

moment every time you saw him. Bruce wasn't concerned about that thing that's happening next week or last week. He wasn't a planner that thing that's happening next week or last week. No, he wasn't a planner. Yeah, and objects fled from his body. Like, Bruce, I've been saving this for you for three years. I finally get to give this to you. Oh, thank you.

And it would float away. I mean, no attachments. No attachments at all, both in the physical and spiritual realms. He was just a special magnetic person. I think Bruce's philosophy is, let's talk about you. Definitely. That's basically what his philosophy was. Was he like a therapist to you guys, you think?

Not like in a way, just like a life coach? Not at all, no. It's like holding up an empty mirror, you know? And, you know, he holds up a mirror to you, and you're not there either. Yeah. He used to tell me every time I saw him, as soon as I saw him, he would say, what are you, getting younger? Like he was,

like you said, always complimenting you. One time at the poorhouse, we were sitting in the back and I said, I had one of his paintings that I bought from ColonelBruce.com. A print of his painting not a

painting i didn't know that bruce painted he bruce pampton painted i've got one of his a print one time randomly on his website there was a print of his painting i bought one and wasn't expensive could you tell me what that painting looks like by making a sound? I think you did it. I know. I can't. I can't. Yeah, exactly. It was.

But here's the funny thing. When I said, I pointed to it, I said, he said, how'd you get that? I said, ColonelBruce.com. He said, he said, how'd you get that? I said, Colonel Bruce.com. He said, I didn't even know they did that. He said, my wife must've done that.

Wow. Yeah. Do you think, uh, do you think if Bruce got to talk to Jeff or Neil during that time of dark times, do you think, uh,

do you think he could, he could have talked some sense into them? You know, I don't know. You know, Bruce dealt with his own mental health difficulties by concentrating on others. He really did. I didn't know until after Bruce passed that he was manic depressive. Had no inclination because, you know, you'd walk in anywhere and see him. He was all about you.

And I had dinner with Bruce, you know, a couple months before he passed. And for the first time ever, I heard him saying, you know, I'm sore. It hurts. It hurts to get up. It hurts to walk. The gigs aren't as good. Any time I ever heard Bruce saying anything negative, I think it was him prepping me, you know, saying, hey, I'm taking the exit,

and here's why. You knew it was real, too, you know? Like, he wasn't going to say it if he wasn't doing it it begs the question of suicide because I totally believe that Bruce decided to leave the planet when he did in that moment

he looked at his watch did he? that's what Derek said on the way down. Well, Bruce looked at his watch, and then he bowed, and he said as he was going down, he looked up at Derek and went. Jeez. Time's right.

Wild. On stage? Yeah, he died on stage at the Fox theater in may 1st yeah yeah with taz taz is right next to him yeah and so is willing yourself to leave the planet different than suicide that's a question willing because i believe he's a master and totally able to say okay here's where I'm stepping off do you I mean

it didn't feel like suicide to me you know but it felt like he was ready I mean like how else would be better for him than on stage? Yeah. At a celebration with everyone he loves playing.

I don't know. Anyways, these are the things we discuss here in Frasco World. Saving the world. You got to save the world. I'm just trying to understand it. I'm trying to understand mental loneliness. I'm trying to understand it. I'm trying to understand mental loneliness. I'm trying to understand loneliness, I think.

You guys have been doing this thing for 17 years, raising kids, raising a staff. I mean, does it ever become overwhelming to you and you need to find some sort of other way to come back to base? Yes, it gets overwhelming, but this is base right here. I mean, that's all we come back to is each other. As lame as that sounds. No, that's not lame.

That's fucking beautiful. That's love, right? It's like this community. When we're feeling down, I know Vince is going to have my back. Exactly. You know, it's the same. I know, too. We see each other.

We don't have to talk about it. I know. Same here. I see him, and we already know. We could just lock eyes. I was feeling tired last night, and all this is overwhelming. I just called Mosher. I wanted to hear him.

I want to meet this guy mosher what's his story like what is he's bruce's boy well bruce was his mentor yeah bruce was his daddy you know as he was all of our daddies you know but uh jeff i think absorbed the lessons and the language of bruce probably deeper deeper than just about anyone. You know, he knows all the lines and he knows the emptiness that it comes from. He carries on the message very well. Yeah. What's that message?

You're all good enough being exactly who you are. And trying to be good or trying to be something you aren't is just ridiculous you know yeah taking the ego out of everything do it for you know authenticity and not anything else but that intention yes and and he he said earlier this morning he said take care of the person in the mirror you know because that person's not going to go away you know he was it was his 10 a.m set was like it was like yoga and and music set you know, like not actual yoga. Yoga was happening, but it was, he was just,

his, his, have you ever listened to blue ground undergrass? No, just tell me about it. Yeah. I'll tell you something about Jeff Mosher. When,

when Mark van passed and we needed a banjo player and we knew it was going to be harder than hell to go out there and do it again. Mosher was the guy we knew he'd be sensitive enough to be harder than hell to go out there and do it again. Mosher was the guy. We knew he'd be sensitive enough to be in that spot because he's so aware and present. And, man, he was. He was perfect for it, but he also pushed us. We're doing this improv, and he's singing, Who's Going to play the banjo? He addresses it in a deep and loving manner and also aware that it's all fine, it's all good,

and we're all in good shape because Bruce has us. Yeah. I don't know how to say it better than that, but he's a very present fella. And he's still in all of us. Like is Neil, like is Jeff. Like, that's the big thing. And it's an amazing thing to play music when you go through that, you know.

And it's fucking honorable to you and to the band to really still give the people the love that you have in your heart throughout something so heavy as a death in your band, dude. Life happens around music. And that's why musicians shouldn't be afraid to be emotionally expressive on stage when they're supposed to be the party guy you know it's okay to express all these things and we all have to become more yeah allowing of ourselves to be to be more than that yeah because life's not just a party for sure yeah i have to get up at 5 45 to take my three kids to school five days a week. After you just had a show until 3 a.m. maybe. Well, I mean, I don't have to stay there late anymore, which is amazing. But for the first 14 years, I did.

Yeah, but how often do you stay there anyways? I stay there to see music when I can. After working in the industry, Do you still love music? Very much Enough to Start doing our own radio show Where I'm Going and listening to shows

And picking out Shows from the poorhouse Picking out Tracks that I like And editing it And like What's it called? Plug It

What's the show called? It's called The Harris Family Happy Hour I love it I love Where can you find it. What's it called? Plug It. What's the show called? It's called The Harris Family Happy Hour. I love it. I love it. Where can you find it? It's on OM Radio. Well, I mean,

we've taken a break from doing it. It's on OM Radio. OMradio.org. It's a local nonprofit. It's like, it wants to be like WNCW, just independent,

listener supported, but it's only three years old and it's Charleston based and they had to take a pause from doing their radio show because they run a restaurant and they have three kids and they have this thing and all this stuff and they launched into this festival the first year out here into the woods

and man what a beautiful sight and what a great gift to your community to say, hey, come on out and have a weekend out here. We don't have to be in the parking lot all weekend. Come on out and look at this joint. Charleston is a super supportive community

and I think you're one of the guys that really, and you, you're a couple. Power couple Oh my gosh Fuck it I don't know about that

Fuck it But I really I just want to say Thank you for this guys Cause I This is the exact type Of conversation I want Talking to not just musicians

But we're talking to venue owners We're talking to festival owners That are giving Their blood sweat and tears To fucking give people an experience. And I just want to – if people don't thank you enough, they should because you're doing something beautiful for people. And you're getting people present off their phones to be in the woods to connect. Connect with nature and other people. Yeah.

And family. And you're letting me get to see one of my best friends. Exactly. That's part of it. I mean, I wanted to get a bunch of people that I love together. It was planned. You heard that. Vince is going to crowd surf tonight.

That's the big news. We're going to put him in the chair for the horror. He's my honorary Jew. West Virginian Jew over here. My favorite. He's Jew honorary Jew West Virginian Jew He's Jew-ish Whatever hangs out with Frasco I just did it again Third person

I keep on fucking doing that Guys thanks so much for being part of this And thank you for everything And I can't wait Thank you for having me for two nights And this is beautiful And I can tell you guys love it And you don't wait thank you for having me for two nights and and this is beautiful and I can tell you guys love it

and you don't just do it for money and that's why we all that's why all these musicians support you so thank you

I love you guys Vanessa and Alex Harris right here thank you for being on the show guys thank you for being on this show god this is like a talk show Vinny it's like who's the band

us okay thanks guys so much like a talk show. Who's the band? Us. Okay. Thanks, guys, so much. I appreciate it. I kick ass today in the festival, and we're going to play in an hour. Let's go find Jeff Mosier. I called him. Let's go find Jeff Mosier right now.

He was napping at the hotel. He went to take a nap. Let's take a pause. Later, you should get him home. We'll was napping at the hotel. He went to take a nap. All right, so let's take a pause. We'll take a pause. But later you should get him home. We'll get Jeff on

for the show. We're just going to do this. It's going to be family hour. No guests, just me and Vinny talking to all the people

that we love. Deal? Yeah. You got to tell your chef. All right, guys. We'll be back. Love you. It is halftime

at the Ennefresco interview hour. Andy, it's Todd. I just made you the little recording if I was the President of the United States. Now, I'm on the treadmill right now. Now I'm thinking, should I send it? That's the problem, I think.

Every time I make something, I overthink it. I said some words wrong, but I'm sending, should I send it? That's the problem. I think every time I make something, I overthink it. I said some words wrong, but I'm sending it to you. So play this one first, and please follow my cues for music to a T. Please, thank you. Hi, this is Todd Glass. And if I was the President of the United States, what would I do? Cue the music. I don't like that music. It was too loud, and it got in the way of what I was going to say.

I could tell the minute it came on. Come on. When I say cue the music, it means you bring in some tasteful music. Maybe trumpets, but not too loud. There you go. Well, I'll tell you what I would do if I was the president of the United States. Some older people, mostly all, they think, oh, young people don't buy our bullshit because they're getting dumber and dumber. Why aren't these young people buying what we're saying? Oh my God, are they getting smarter than us? So would I say this? If you're older, if I was the president of the United States and you're older and you weren't helping with whatever the new cause was, recycling of the environment,

a certain kindness that we're trying to treat other people with. If you weren't helping, you're not doing anything. You're fine. You're fine. But if you fight, fight it, we euthanize you. Yeah, that's what we got to do. You go, oh, I don't know about this new thing that's come along. Okay, that's fine. Can you just sit back and not get in our way?

Now, or put them, maybe drown them. I don't know, something painless. Is that the joking part of what I said or is that the serious part of what I said? I don't know. But I know if there was a fire, a big raging fire, and all the neighbors were helping trying to put it out before the

fire department got there. And there was five people not doing anything. Nah, they'd probably be, all right, I wish they'd help, but they're just sitting on their porch watching, sitting on their porch watching. But if they came over to where the fire was and tried to take the hoses out of people's hands and block people from trying to stop the fire. Yeah. Euthanize them. And you know what else I'd do if I was a president of the United States? All right, folks.

Here we are back at Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast with our buddy Jeff Mosier. I'm Vince Herman. Andy Frasco and the boys are on stage right now. Jeff Moser, I'm Vince Herman. Andy Frasco and the boys are on stage right now. And we just decided to consider this a little surprise podcast that you'll find when he reviews this stuff in a little while. Jeff Moser, we want to talk to you about how you keep your head together, be a musician, and live the lessons of Bruce Hampton every day? Well, he said to do is to be.

And I think you have to be moving. Right now, the answer to that question is I started driving a school bus in the neighborhood that my kids went to school at the exact schools they went to and it's changed everything because for a while I was like you know I felt like I was becoming a mouth-breathing old man you know that whole thing the couch is a coffin without a lid it is couch is a coffin without a lid. It is. Couch is a coffin without a lid. And even though they're fun to be on, you can, you know, one day they'll just come put that lid on it. And I don't want that. So music requires energy and being an entertainer requires energy.

And so I just took matters into my own hand. After Bruce died, I was really hanging my head my head you know because he was it was like a giant barge moved out of my soul that i had lived on i didn't know that i lived on the barge and then it moved away and i'm out there like paddling we're all like that with with how it felt that way didn't it i mean yeah it did you were there um but honestly when i look in there i look in the rearview mirror in that bus in the morning the little kids i get a lump in my throat every time because i'm looking at the future i'm taking them down the road I'm taking them to be educated or indoctrinated, a little of both, lots of lies, lots of truth, but they're going to school. And it feels like a noble profession.

I love buses. You know that. I love the fact that you're smiling at those kids when they get on the bus. You know, being in the presence of people has a strong effect, whether, you know, you spend a lot of time with them or not, or whether you just drive them down the road on the bus. You know, the Wavy Gravy used to have this old guy come around when he grew up there in Princeton, New Jersey.

And he'd have this guy come by, take him for walks in the morning. He'd just like to take walks with him and really this weird old guy smelled kind of funny and stuff and but yeah he'd come by and asked you asked uh my buddy's parents if he could take him out for a walk and he did it and said he had this peculiar smell and still remember what that smell was really and i'm talking about wavy gravy yeah and he used to walk around the corner with albert einstein you know so what did what effect did i have on wavy gravy don't go on give me a minute. Do you have to go on? Just think of Albert Einstein.

I just can't imagine. Walking down the street. I can't imagine. I'm not talking about anything in particular. Just Albert liked Wavy's energy. They're being together. Being together. Yeah.

Being there. So there you are are you're being there on the school bus man and and you're you're transferring that energy man that's perfect for you jeff it's just it's the same i just don't have a banjo strapped on me and i don't have to go to sound check but i play the spoons for him and we do hot cross buns together and i do you know we had a picnic we had buns we had wieners big fat ones we had wieners on a stick mother told us don't be quick turn your wieners front and back cook them slowly till they crack we had cookies and lemonade jane saw b and got afraid i dropped my pickle in the dirt. I washed it off so it wouldn't hurt. We had a picnic. We had fun. Now all we want is another one. And their eyes get as big as moon pies.

Because I sing that to them sometimes with the spoons. And I'm Mr. Jeff. That's my new name. I'm Mr. Jeff. That's my new name. They don't know about Reverend or anything. Mr. Jeff. And it's been really a great thing so far. And I'm really, really grateful. You know, it takes a lot of positions within a community to bring up kids that feel part of a network and things.

You know, music provides this great community for us. We've been talking on this podcast about festival promoters and venue owners who are doing this thing. Why they do it, why they keep it going. The community keeps coming back up. It builds. And, you know, the folks here at the Poor House

who are doing this festival have created this community in Charleston. It's a barge of which everybody can hang on. If that barge disappears, man, you know. It's heavy. It's not just a bar. And that's what I said this morning. You know, there's some places you play, you know it's a liquor store with a PA. And there's not much beyond that.

But when you go to the poorhouse, it's like a church with liquor and a really good PA and music. Everybody, it's just a vibe. It feels, I've just always loved it. So how's the vibe in Atlanta these days, man? What's happening in Atlanta? Lots of young new players coming out all over the joint, man. Yeah, Sweetwater 420's really grown and gotten big, and they're bringing music midtown back quietly.

Nice. They kind of brought that back. I will never forget playing music midtown, and Bruce sat in with us. He had on this pair of shorts with his balls hanging out. I was there. Y'all played, and then we played. Sitting on that bench, man, with his leg kind of up and balls hanging down. Under that big tent, remember?

It was like 99 or something like that. Oh, that was special. Yes, sir. Yeah, that was really good. So now, how many squares were on the waffle-shaped UFO again? It went between 6 and 13? I think it was between 6 and 13. Yeah.

Yeah. Now, getting back to how it is that you let the effect of that barge we were on for so long, what other ways do you find the knowledge you gained on that barge that is Bruce Hampton guiding decisions in your daily life? I think many of the things he did for me, he did for you. life? I think many of the things he did for me, he did for you. We might communicate them differently, but the effects were the same on our, on who we are and as artists and musicians, band people, human beings, fathers, whatever, husbands. Um, Bruce was a great permission giver and he gave you permission to only do one thing. And that was to be yourself and that you're, you're in a better position doing that than

anything else. You're kind of wasting your time off the grid, wandering around, looking up in the sky, trying to be somebody else. You're wasting your it's in time you know it's an illusion but not really and uh so i uh finally have grasped the fact that he's not coming back we're not going to be eating chinese food and i had to it took me a while but um right now I'm at peace knowing that I was one of the lucky people to have met him, played with him, and considered him my friend. You know, Bruce put out a lot of joy on stage. And we're in the audio shadow of Andy Frasco whipping out piles of joy on stage. Yeah. How is it, as a musician, that you can become comfortable

with things other than joy being expressed on stage? Sorrow, grief, anxiety about the shape we're in. anxiety about the shape we're in you know like how how do we how do we keep that balance as musicians between wanting to lead a party and wanting to talk what's really on our brains wow that's uh that's the question i wake up with every day dude this is yeah this is it especially right now and uh all that's going on we're in a shift where language is at risk epistemology's changing yes it is yeah green's not green anymore you know apples are bananas the apples are the new bananas and so we're just, you know, we're being hit at our most vulnerable because language is an agreement, consensus agreement of symbols. And then we call it a tree. And so

it's a tree. We name it, we claim it. Everybody agrees it's a tree. And to us, it's a tree. Everybody agrees it's a tree. And to us, it's a tree. Right now, it's a beautiful thing that we've done creating language through memory and pattern recognition and all that. But right now, we're almost looking into a new kind of technological dark ages when it comes to an epistemological understanding of what's real. Yes. dark ages when it comes to an epistemological understanding of what's real yes because if we lose a consensus agreement about what truth is we really we we knock thousands of years off of the progress we've made and virtually overnight and at high speed and in high definition. And I have to be honest with you. I'm really, I'm very scared. I'm very scared.

I don't want to be bringing everybody down. You know. But I am very scared. Language is an attempt to get at feeling. And we still have feeling. And we know what's right. Right. And we know that even though there's layers of gobbledygook.

And the gut's still processed. We can still count on that to get us through this. Yeah. You know? To know that we're enough, we're good enough because we're being ourselves. Right. And you follow that path and we're going to end up on the other side. You know?

And true, it is more than just the orange one laying this upon us. But, you know, like today's move was to, you know, oh, yeah, OK, I guess I'm busted asking for foreign help. Let me do it in public. Right. Yeah. Right. So then it's not a problem. Right.

Because I was obvious about it. Right. So. Right. Sure. The whole thing is wrong. But. Yeah. right so then it's not a problem right because i was obvious about it right so right sure the whole thing is wrong but yeah let's frame it in some other thing and it the key word is frame yeah and i'm just amazed that only 46 percent of people uh support his impeachment. Right today. It'll get there. But the rule of law is what makes it safe for us to sit here on this bus with two microphones and talk like old friends.

We don't really have to worry right now. We're probably not going to get mowed down for being hippies. Mosiers, they're going to be a civil war. Wow. Are we in one now? Well, the only thing I can't get past

is that there's that many, nobody has that many assault weapons unless they're going to use them. I can't get that thought out of my mind. And I'm really nervous about that. Because once it starts, it's like that Coke fizzing, you know, it barely comes out first and then, and I hope that's not the case.

But my hope along those lines is this. Once the economy tanks and people have sat around in their house, scared shitless for a few weeks, and there's no cable, they can't binge watch anything, they're going to be crawling out looking for answers new a new way of life because all of a sudden everything they thought that was important isn't important because they become that person trapped in the earthquake that's been down there for two weeks just focused on their breath till somebody came and got them. And that way they can skip the yoga retreat. They go right to spirituality. And that's my hope is that we'll be pressured so hard

and miss America and freedom and safety and security so much that we can skip the yoga retreat and we'll go right to spirituality. We'll have anything to do with religion. We'll be Bob and the little birds. Every little thing is going to be all right. And I really, that's my hope. That's the hope of Jeff Moser right here on Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast, live from the school bus here at Into the Woods,

Charleston, West Virginia. West Virginia? In your mind, we're in West Virginia? Yeah, Charleston, West Virginia. Yeah. In my mind, it's all how you frame it, Moser. Good Lord, thener. Good Lord. Then came the sixes.

Look at all those coal miners out there walking around. They got cold miners, man, over at the ice truck. All right. Well, folks, I see a panda out the window, so we better get to see what sort of charismatic megaphone is walking around in this piece. All right, motor. You know I love you. Let's go catch some Frasco on stage.

Let's do. Can't wait till he hears what we've been up to. Peace out, y'all. Hello, Andy. Hi, it's Brian, your manager. I'm listening to your show, and between me and you, Todd Glass is doing anything to get the word out there about his new Netflix special, Act Happy. But, quite frankly, I'd watch The Great Depression by Gary Goldman.

Now, Todd Glass wants you to eat everybody's pussy and suck everybody's cock? Is that just vulgar to be vulgar, Andy? Vulgarity is funny, yes, but just for no reason? No, it doesn't stand the test of time very well. Andy, go write songs. Write songs, Andy. That's what I ought to do, write songs. You shouldn't be doing mushrooms, you should be writing songs. When you're crowd surfing, why don't you take a little notebook out there with you, and while you're going through the crowd, you should be writing songs. When you're crowd surfing, why don't you take a little notebook out there with you, and while you're going through the crowd, you can write a song. Blow your nose, write a song.

Take a shit, write a song. Think of things nobody ever wrote a song about. Why can't you suck pussy? Andy, I'll tell you, I love you to death, but I can't go on. I do not get in your creative way. I let you be who you are, but you can't be sucking everybody's pussy and eating everybody's cock.

No one ever eats anybody's cock, but everybody's eating pussy, but nobody's eating cock. This is what you want to do when you shop? I can't take it no more. I can't take it. All right. There you have it.

Fucking star-studded episode. Thanks, Todd, for your nomination for president. Vince, taking over the show, getting that fucking core from Mr. Mosier himself. We learned a lot about Colonel Bruce. We learned a lot about venue promoters and festival promoters like Johnny Buck from Rooster Walk. How fucking crazy it is watching your venue just burn down and you're still trying to figure out how to do live music.

So shout out to Johnny. Shout out to Alex from The Poor House and Into the Woods. You know, festivals are fucking hard. And for y'all to still, with there being and Into the Woods. You know, festivals are fucking hard. And for y'all to still, with there being 20,000 fucking festivals out there, for you still give another one in there, shout out to you for keeping live music around. But, yeah, it was great.

It was great to hear Vince. Great to see Vince. We just made it our own show. I like Vince as my co-host. What do y'all think? It's been a blast. But, ladies and gentlemen, wow, what a fucking week it was for me. The Great Depression came out on HBO.

We're getting so much love for it. It's been fucking awesome. I had to go to the fucking movie premiere. The week before, when I recorded the other one, we did a live show with Judd Apatow, Patton Oswalt, fucking Gary Goldman, and others, and it was just so cool to do those songs live. So I got the text from Mike Bonfiglio,

the director, like, hey, come to the premiere, come to the premiere. So I had to cancel my show in Wilmington because they wanted me there to discuss mental health and stuff. So I was like, fuck yeah, I'm fucking down. No disrespect to Wilmington. I'll be back November 3rd. But I'm promoting the mental

health thing. It's really important to me. So shout out to Wilmington for being cool about me canceling and rescheduling. But I went to the Great Depression premiere. I was in New York. I brought a date hot date it was just i felt like a rock star people loving it um i i was like i took some fucking

mushrooms i was like i want to watch this without overthinking it and just be present so i took a little too much and but i was laughing so hard and it was just such a great to see gary on the big screen see my music up there was fucking tight dudes so shout out to mike and judd and gary for getting me giving me an experience i'll remember for the rest of my life because uh not only is that song mean a lot to me and i'm glad that that song is bringing a purpose to uh you know the stigma so shout out um other mental health talks uh we we started i didn't start it uh the people at relics and a group of people started this backline.care music industry uh dealing with mental health and stuff and it gives you just all these platforms for you to talk to people and it's fucking awesome

i got to write a testimonial and uh it was just rocking and i hope you um take a look at that backline.care um if you need help i know a lot of musicians uh you know a lot of musicians are on this podcast and whatnot um but that was awesome. Great depression was so tired, man. Did some mushrooms. I had some sex. It was awesome. And it was just like, you know, the type of sex where it's just like, all right, no expectations.

We're just going to have sex because we're celebrating. I felt like a fucking rock star, y'all. Okay, enough about my escapades. What else is going on? I got courted by a company to be a sponsor for the podcast. And I wasn't going to pitch anything unless I believe in it. So I told the company, all right, send me one line pitch

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So, like, one time I was, like, kind of half naked and, oh, dude, it got my dick. And like one time I was like kind of half naked. And oh dude it got my dick. And I felt it was this excruciating pain. So shout out to Manscaped. Welcome to the World Saving Podcast. All the fans. They said they'll hook you up.

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In other news, oh my god, I'm so excited to announce this. We started, me and Jack Brown from Syista Funk started a jam band fantasy basketball league. You know what? I'm going to let Dolav introduce this. Dolav, our sports commentator. Dolav, introduce the jam band fantasy basketball league. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Dolav Sportscast.

This week, we're going to be talking some NBA fantasy basketball, baby! Jam-band style! It's fucking time! The Jam-band Fantasy Basketball League is here. Who's going to win? Who's going to lose? Who's going to be sucking dick at the end of the season? Let's get into it. Starting lineups right here. Who's gonna win? Who's gonna lose? Who's gonna be sucking dick at the end of the season? Let's get into it. Starting lineups right here. We got

Matt from Tuck. We got Lyle from the Motet. We got the homie Jack and E-Man from Sophistafarm. We got Craig from Turquoise. We got the little homie Taz. We got Nick from Big Something. Nick Greeley, Scientific. We've got Mr. Frasco and Ernie from the UN. and last but not

least, you got me, and the homegirl, T-Killa, aka T-Nasty, holding it down for the OGs. But the truth is, I don't really care about this league, I just want to see Andy be embarrassed and lose in front of all of his jam band fucking friends, so I hope you guys all kick his fucking ass down

every week. I know I'm coming for it. Fuck you, fuck LeBron, fuck lebron fuck anthony davis fuck the lakers and lakers ain't shit fucking band ain't shit nah you guys are all right but fuck you jazz we're gonna win just like i'm gonna win they're going down utah jazz all day all night fuck everyone in this league fuck you andy it's sports with don'toff I love you, Chris. Woo-hoo! Wow. Fucking excited.

It's going down. We got the talk boys, some motet people, Turquoise, Sophistafung, me and Ernie in it. We got little homie Taz, my son. We got Nick from Big Something. We got Funky Dog Brass Band. We got a bunch of people in this league, 16 people who think they know basketball, all ready to talk shit on each other. And we will be commentating throughout the whole season. Dolov is going to be shit talking his ass off.

Anyone does a fuck up move, anyone tries to, you know, cheat, Jack Brown, we're watching you. We are fucking watching you. So get ready for that. It's going to be blood, cheat, Jack Brown, we're watching you. We are fucking watching you. So get ready for that. It's going to be blood, sweat, and tears on the stage and through the Fantasy Basketball League. I'm getting some Lakers. You already know that. All you New Yorkers, talk. I'm talking to you.

Motet, Lyle, Davinsky, I know you're a baller. Don't be trying to get all Denver on me So holler at me Let's go, let's do this So it's gonna be fun Fantasy Basketball League is here The Lakers are back It's all, this is, I love fall

It's the best time to tour On that note, everyone, be safe out there Thanks Vinny For just always being a close fucking friend Always when I feel shitty Vince Herman is there To fucking pump me up And you know to cry together

Man we cried this weekend Talking about Mojere and how And how Vince had his One of his band members pass It's just so sweet talking about Colonel Bruce And talking about Neil and talking about mental health passed It's just so sweet Talking about Colonel Bruce And talking about Neil And talking about mental health It's so important for us to fucking get through this stigma

So you guys are not alone If you're feeling like shit, holler at us We are in this fight together You know Know that you're not alone You're not fucking alone So ladies and gentlemen, I'm taking a week off My tour dates I got some tour dates going gentlemen, I'm taking a week off. What are my tour dates?

I got some tour dates going on here. I'm playing in Covington tomorrow at the Madison Live. Lexington, Kentucky. Playing with Pittsburgh with Turquoise. Oh, dude. Yeah, Craig. Craig's in the league. Craig, I'm coming for that ass.

I hope I play you the first week. I hope I play you during this tour, Ron. So shout out to Turquoise. We're going to Roanoke with Southern Ave. You just heard them on the pod. Then we're doing Huluween. I got some dope podcasts. I think cross your fingers, but I think I got Tom Borrello, which should

be fucking tight. Then we're on tour with Pigeons. Pigeons playing ping pong for Halloween. We got some dope shit going on. And then I don't know when we're going to announce this tour we're going on in the wintertime with this killer band. We're doing a co-headline with somebody, but I'll leave you in suspense for that until I get the okay to announce because, you know, they sometimes say, what the fuck are you doing? Stop announcing shit before everyone wants to do it professionally. So, Mayenta sometimes

because my people, you know, you're my people. I want you to know first. But other than that, Glen Falls on November 8th and 9th for Wild Age Geotics Music Festival. You heard all the boys on the show today. Just star-studded event.

We had singing. We had Todd Glass. We had Vince. We had concert promoters festival buyers we had it all today so thanks for being there for us um and i'll leave you with this you know be safe stay humble stay focused on your dreams if you hear any outside clutter of why uh from maybe your fucking family or why are you still fucking doing this You make no money, fuck them

No disrespect to your mom or whatever But fuck that You're doing this because you love it You're doing it because this is what makes you happy What are you gonna do if you got off the road What? I don't know what the fuck to do if I got off the road I'm sitting at an empty bar right now

There's one hour before a show And the piece Listen to this calm before the storm I love this Because I know we're about to rock this shit And you guys are too So keep fighting the good fight Let's keep these musicians on tour

Let's keep them healthy Fans Give a musician a fucking hug You never know who's having a bad day It doesn't have to be a musician Give your friend a hug It looks lonely I saw the Joker

That shit was fucked up Everyone take care of everyone You don't want crazy people Rolling around because they're lonely You're not alone Alright guys Be safe And I will catch you

In a week or two Yeah Alright love you Arno Give me something sweet. Bye. Well, thank you for listening to episode 62 of Andy Fresco's World Saving Podcast. Produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angelhow, and Chris Lawrence. Please subscribe and rate the show on iTunes and Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon.

For info on the show, please head to our Instagram at world-savingpodcast. For more info on the blog and tour dates, head to andyfresco.com. Change of pace, change of pace, change of pace. Available on streaming media. This week's guest is Vince Herman. Find him online at leftoversalmon.com. Mind you, there is a leftover L in salmon.

A L. This week's special guests were Travis Gray, Todd Glass, Ari Findlings, Andy Avila, Sean Eccles, Jeff Mosier and Alex Williams. If you want to learn more about the Rooster Walk

Music and Arts Festival or the effort to rebuild the Rives Theatre, visit roosterwalk.com and rivestheatre.org. All donations are tax-deductible. And no politics. No politics, no politics. It's just friggin' impossible, Andy. It is Saturday. I think I will walk down the market,

find me a leftover salmon somewhere, fry the living daylights out of it and release all my frustrations on the poor thing. The lies, the lack of love, the loopholes, the lost and the losers, the loneliness and the lawlessness, the betrayal of allies and them lousy lurks. Salmon with an L. open and bad we play the smallest stage and no sit-ins with Trey we're in the open and bad

don't get to talk to the fans, rewrite our set listen cramps, we're in the open and bad they said we overplayed now get your shit off our stage we're in the open and bad brought my girlfriend

to the show and now she's doing blow With the headlining band We'll see you next week. Thank you.