Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 7: Vince Herman (Leftover Salmon)

Episode Date: May 15, 2018

All hands on deck! Vince Herman from Leftover Salmon steps up to the interview hour and liberates our minds from the bondage of self-doubt and anxiety. Andy and Yeti talk SEX (more so than usual). And making his WSP debut, we have a very special story from our uncle, Mike Dillon... This is Episode 7. To keep up with the podcast, follow us on Instagram @WorldSavingPodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com For more information on our guest, Vince Herman and his band, Leftover Salmon, visit: http://www.leftoversalmon.com/ Produced by Andy Frasco Yeti Chris Lorentz Engineered by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Mike Dillon Shawn Eckels & Andee Avila

And now, let's check in with Andy and the boys and see how the European adventures are going. Goedenavond. Wilt u herhalen? In Fresco, we trust. In Fresco, we trust. In Fresco, we trust. In Fresco, we trust. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Reverend Fresco we trust. In Fresco we trust.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Reverend Fresco. Please take your seats. Please take your seats. Well, shall we get started? Ladies. Well, shall we get started? Ladies and gentlemen, shall we get started? Welcome, my children, to the Church of Fro. My name is Reverend Frasco. I will be your holy leader today. Hold on one second.

Okay, here we go. Can I get a hallelujah? I'm going to do that all fucking night. This is nice. This is a beautiful church. Give it up for the church for letting us do this here. Ladies and gentlemen, very nice. Thank you.

I have to say this because I know my fans. Do not smoke weed in here, ladies and gentlemen. We paid a heavy deposit to be here tonight. So if you're going to smoke, smoke in your car or something. Anyway. Dear friends, there'll be a day in your life when you won't want to wake up. Give up whatever you're fighting for, for a little more sleep, a little more security, maybe a little more companionship. I know you're tired.

I know everyone around you has pissed you off. But you can't complain to anyone because they'll call you selfish. And like pushing a triangle through a square hole, you just don't want to fight. a triangle through a square hole, you just don't want to fight. Well, if there's anyone that could listen to you on your this low, it's got to be that little voice inside of you called your soul. Your soul was the first friend you had when you were six, and you had no one to hang out with, or it's that buddy that got you through your first kiss, or your first shitty breakup, or the first time you maybe premature ejaculated

for a woman. Whatever had happened to you bad in your life, here's the one who turned you from a kid to an adult in the blink of an eye. Now as we get older, collect a few experiences, grow a couple more gray hairs, we seem to forget about that long time pal that used to make us happy over a bowl of cereal or even a swing in the park. Instead, we are so overwhelmed with other people's happiness that we completely forget about our long time friend, our soul. So what I'm trying to get at is don't forget about that guy. Don't forget about yourself. Because when it comes down to it, this is your life. Nobody else's. I know you might not think you're normal. Don't worry, we're not normal either. A majority of us won't understand you.

It's going to get harder before it gets easier and if you choose not to follow the path it's gonna get even harder. But hold this with you it's better to feel pain or loneliness than nothing at all. We won't appreciate the gift of happiness that was just given to us. There are too many other people blocking our way who only half-ass want it. So keep your head up through the struggles and always pick yourselves up even when you're feeling the worst. Because once you remember that this too shall pass, you're going to make it through anything. So stay happy, stay foolish, stay young, and don't let anyone tell you that you can't do something.

Because you are way stronger than you think you are. Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen. Alright. Hallelujah. We are back in the membrane. Insane in the membrane. Insane in the membrane. Insane in the motherfucking membrane. How we doing, people? You are on the Andy Frasco World Saving Podcast with Yeti.

Welcome back. Welcome back, indeed. I hope you're not sick of us yet. I don't think they are because... It's been a handful of episodes. People either... This is like the point in a podcast where you either are addicted to it or you think these guys

fucking suck. Yeah. I think this is make or break. Make or break. So if you don't like us after this, you can find us in the welfare line. Not like we're making any fucking money on this thing anyway. They don't know that. Millions of people listen to this podcast

every day. How you doing, Yeti? I'm great. What's going on in your world? Man, I get to do some cool stuff during the week. We haven't talked about this. I install solar panels on rooftops. Is that your gig?

That's my day job. Is that what pays the bills? That's what pays the bills. What type of people are buying solar panels? Honestly, people people have the money to buy them are they expensive yeah i mean so fucked up why are they expensive it's a lot i mean you got i mean you're paying a crew of you know three to five guys to get on your roof and secure anywhere from eight to 45 panels depending on how much you want and size your roof and everything make sure it doesn't get blown away you know i what I mean? You live in the Kansas city area.

You know what windstorms are like down there. It's fucked up, you know, and you've been around the world and stuff, but yeah, so I, I, it's,

it's great. It's buying solar panels, like buying a Tesla. It's like, Oh yeah, we have solar panels or people really care about the community. There is a status environment. It's both.

There is a status symbol to it. You're right. Yeah. Like having a Teslala right but at the same time like think about it like the late the the latest model of the tesla the 40 came out and um and i mean there's more and more of them i'm seeing more of them in salt lake and stuff yeah that's like the one for the masses right everywhere too right and it's one of the most popular things and i mean like you get the ones that are like the Model X

and the Model S, the big daddies. I mean those are $125,000, $150,000 vehicles. And people are like what in the world? It's like well what happened

is people grew a conscience number one but then they realized they could spend that money and whether you want to call it a midlife crisis or they have the ability to because they've worked

their asses off for 20 years. So they get to go do that instead of buying a Ferrari. They're buying Teslas, which is better for everybody, I think. I think so too. Crazy. This world we live in. Man, we have

Vince Herman on the show tonight. What? Vince Herman, leftover salmon, my boo, my baby boy, my sweet angel child, the sweet dick of the west sweet dick of the west oh man we met on jm cruise and we looked each other in the eye i'm like we knew we're gonna be soulmates you know i'm easily he's like you barry he's like i never wanted to start a religion until i met you frasco i'm like let do one together. We're starting a band together called Fruit Porn.

Fruit Porn? Yeah, we're doing all lyrics that are all sexual innuendos about fruit. We have songs about how kumquats can't cum. What? And how love songs about jackfruit being the substitute. They're the substitute to meat. Are they like the cuckold of the vegetable world? Yeah, it's like jackfruit, you know, being the substitute. You know, they're the substitute to meat. Are they like the cuckold of the vegetable world? Yeah, it's like jackfruit.

We're going to talk about like how I am just your jackfruit, like your substitute for the moment. Oh, you go deep on it. Isn't that cool? That was good. I like that. I like it. Vince is getting shit out of me. I never thought I had in me.

It's festival season now festies wooks the wooks are out oh yeah check out Frasco and Yeti on Instagram

and look for our wooks of the week yeah we got a bunch in the highlights and in the posts yeah this is it's about to start festival season deep and I am about

Coachella kicked it off yeah oh did you yeah we posted it's on there go look for the dude it's in one of the posts i

think we posted it on like the 17th or something like that yeah and around coachella but check it out um it's amazing oh my god the ketamine scene is has reached the pop scene you know you're in trouble when ketamine is hip to like people who dig Britney Spears and fucking Taylor Swift and Beyonce. It went mainstream. It's like, I'm just going to do, you know, I'm just going to ride the K while Bay sings with Jay-Z. Oh, shit.

Unbelievable. Why do people like ketamine? You tell me. Do you know what ketamine is? Yes, it's a horse tranquilizer. I got dosed with ketamine. Ketamine is a, it's a tranquilizer. Fucking guy.

It's like, hey, have some cocaine. And he knew I was performing. This is that electric forest. Yeah. Electric forest. And I had to store ketamine. And then I got on stage. I got so lucky that it was a thunderstorm.

Oh yeah. And they had to call it. They called the whole set because it was kicking in by the second song. Yeah. And I was like, Oh fuck, this isn't good. I've never felt this way before.

Why am i angry and also feel on a cloud you know like i felt like my head i was holding my head like a balloon whoa i hated that shit because i need to be in control when i'm you know entertaining people yeah someone has to be the alpha for this fucking somebody's got a lead drug lord party you know like all right guys calm the fuck, focus it, dial it in. But when I'm on the fucking ride the K-hole too, it's fucked up. You can't do that.

I learned my lesson. Please don't drug me. Don't do that. I'm off the wagon still. You're still not using, you're not doing cocaine, you're not doing speed. No speed, I'm doing good. I've been hiding.

I get in trouble when I just, because I like to walk around festivals and shit. Yeah, yeah. Just like cruise the hood and see what's going, see what type of freaks are in this town. But every time I do that, I'm in someone's tent doing fucking gator lines of cocaine. Jesus.

It's like 2 p.m. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. This isn't good. This ain't good. I can't start like this. Then you start drinking to get out of it. It's 2 p.m. and you woke up

an hour and a half ago. Yeah. That's festival life, man. Thank God we don't have to fucking do that. Like I used to have to like stay at festivals for three days. Just stay.

So now it's like you swoop in, you play your show, you leave? It's like a one-night stand. It's like, did my thing. Out. Peace out. But it's okay. See you next year. It's all good.

Festival seems crazy. I mean, Vince Herman's the king of festivals. What's some crazy stuff? You've seen it all. I mean, you've seen so much stuff. Not a festival story. What's a, from the road,

you know, from the road story. I'm just getting at you off the cuff. We didn't, we didn't really plan it. From the road. Yeah. Oh my God.

I got a, what about somebody? I got chased out of town once. A what? Like literally chased out of, what do you mean? It was Kearney, Nebraska. You know where Kearney, Nebraska is? Yeah. I mean, I don't.

I know where Nebraska is. How about that? This girl came on to me and I was like, oh, you know, fuck yeah. Whatever. I was drunk. Let's go. Let's go back to your place. Whatever. She takes me back to her place. We're doing the business. You know, I was in the middle

inside. And all of a sudden, I hear a knock on the door like like a hard one yeah linda i know you're fucking in there with that band guy i'm like what the fuck you didn't tell me you have a husband who wants to fucking kill me right now Who wants to fucking kill me right now. It's unbelievable. What the fuck? So I dick out. No, it's still hard. Can't find my shoes.

I am in fucking panic mode, dude. Oh my, are you in a trailer? We're in a two-story house. But I was on the top floor. Oh. And he was downstairs. Uh-uh. Yeah, so I...

Oh, he's outside. No, he's at the door because she locked the door. Into the bedroom. Yeah. so I... Oh, he's outside. No, he's at the door because she locked the door. Into the bedroom. Yeah. No, she locked the door to the bedroom, but she also locked the door downstairs. He got in.

He got in. All right. Now he's walking up the stairs. I felt like I was R. Kelly trapped in the fucking closet, dude. It was insane. Now I'm stuck in the closet. So what happened?

With a midget. So I fucking ran, jumped out the window like a dumbass no shirt i'm in nebraska no shirt just jeans fucking fucking it was it wasn't not that tall fucking ate shit fucked up my leg like fucking gimping and he's's out there. He's like, what the fuck? He confronts you? He confronts you. He wasn't mad at me. He was mad at her because I don't fucking know.

These girls don't tell me that they're fucking married. I'm just like a ghost. Somewhat cool about it, I guess. He just felt defeated. That's when I felt mad about it. This chick keeps doing this fucking cheats on me and shit. So now I'm walking.

He's like, do you need a ride home? I'm like, no, man. I'm not getting in a car with you. So I'm like walking, limping down the fucking street. And I'm like shirtless. And I'm like, it was probably like 4.30, 5 in the morning. And these poor, these sweet old women are like, do you need help, honey?

Are you okay? I'm like, yes, I need help. I walked in. They gave me breakfast. Oh, my God. They fed me. At their house? You walked by their house?

Yeah, I wore one of their grandkids' t-shirts and shit. Oh, my God. And they just gave me some coffee. What? And we just waited. Then we watched and like. And we just waited. Then we watched Gold Girls. What? No.

In Kearney, Nebraska. It was amazing. I mean, it wasn't, it was scary. I thought I was going to die, but. But then you. At the end of the day. You ended up having an awesome morning. I met some really sweet grandmas.

So then what, like, did you just like some, the band finally find you and come get you? Yeah. Cause we, they were sleeping in the van and I just left everything at the venue. Like when you're on like, I'm getting laid, as a man, you got a one-track mind. I left everything. It's time for this train to go. We are going.

We are going for lunch. If a girl's like, you want to come to my house? Yes. You're drunk. You're like in fucking Flintstone mode. Oh, yes. Like Neanderthal. Oh, God, me, man, man, man. Yes, come over mode. Oh, yes, like Neanderthal. Oh,

God, me, man, man, man, yes, come over here, yes,

I come there. Oh, it's fucking nuts. This is the mind of men. This is the mind. We are men. It's good to talk as men.

Yeah. Have you seen Big Mouth? I love Big Mouth. Nick Kroll is fucking hilarious. I got to get him on the show. Nick Kroll, be on our show. We'll get y'all,

Nick. We got Vince, we got Vince show. Nick Kroll, be on our show. We'll get you on, Nick. We got Vince. We got Vince up. Vince. Vince Herman's coming in. We talk festivals. We're going to talk love. We're going to talk our bonding and our friendship and what we think life is. But what else you got for me today? Yeti, how are you feeling? We've been talking about me the last couple episodes.

What's going on with you? I'm good. I mentioned I'm doing the solar thing and um it's really good and then on top of that um things are great at home with my partner and love of my life meg and we're you know all right blah blah blah let's hear the dirt i want to hear the juice what what juice what do you want what's happened in your life what's the craziest what's the craziest thing that's ever happened to you in your life craziest thing I want to know church years like did you ever have

like some like pastor try to like fuck you or no I didn't have I didn't have any um molest stories like that

no I didn't I was fortunate and I didn't what's the oldest girl you've been with uh I was in a relationship with a woman

that was 12 and a half years older than me. Wow. So she's turning, I think turning 50 soon. I hooked up with my teacher. What? Yeah. What do you mean you hooked up with your teacher?

Where? In high school? In high school. You hooked up with your teacher in high school? Yeah. Your senior year? Senior year. I was 18.

What type? Was she taught one of your classes can you say the subject I don't want to go that far but I'll tell you the story okay yeah yeah

I was just I grew up really quickly I lost my virginity at like 14 right away right away

like busting out oh I think I should put this in somebody quickly come real quick and I've just been the same height. And I used to manage bands. And I used to fake my age.

You know my story. Yeah. Working at major... Worked at a record label, Capital. And just... My sisters were older. So I was hooking up with my sister's friends and stuff when I was super young.

And... So I was just hanging out with her. And we flirted. When I was flirting with her, I was super young. And so I was just hanging out with her. And we flirted. When I was flirting with her, I was younger. We didn't do anything until I was 18. And blah, blah, blah, yada, yada. One thing led to another. Finally, your senior year.

Senior year. We hook up. Yeah? Yeah. One time? We hooked up like four or five times. Wow. Ever at school? We had... I fucked her in my car. Yeah? Yeah. One time? We hooked up like four or five times. Wow. Ever at school?

We had... I fucked her in my car. Yeah? Parking lot. We had sex in a bathroom. At school? No, no. Okay.

At a Mexican restaurant. Oh, shit. I loved her. That was your with you you fell in love with that's the first girl i ever loved yeah yeah she was 39 what yeah i was into her you had a 21 year age gap yeah is that your biggest age i used to masturbate to older women porn, though. Not like mature. Not like grandma porn, but like milf porn. Yeah. I don't know why. I just always liked older women my whole life.

And then I finally got one in my life, and I was just her rebound, you know? She got out of a relationship. I'm sorry you got heartbroken Andy by your hot teacher. She was hot? Oh she's so hot.

She's so beautiful. I'm a little uncomfortable in here. Then she got pregnant with someone else. Now she's married happily

happy for her. Wow. But it's crazy man. Life you know you never know what's going to happen. But I think that made me a commitment phobe.

That was the first time I really got vulnerable with someone. 18 years old. 18. So you have experienced love? I guess so. Yeah, it's what it is. I think I just suppress it. I suppress the feelings a lot.

Because I got hurt. And I don't like feeling hurt. It's something I always, my whole life, I've been trying to avoid getting hurt. Hence why I stay on the road. Hence why I'm in a happy band. Hence why. Because I don't want to feel that emotion.

And when it comes down to it, I really need to. Well, it's not that pain is a necessary part of human experience. It's that it's inevitable in our human experience. And some people say that's a pessimistic way to look at it. And I disagree.

I just think it's real. But it's what you do in that moment. If you experience pain, do you go inward and then try to limit yourself from experiencing that ever again, which is what you've done? Yeah. Or do you express that emotion and find a way to have, have it exist in your world and accept it? You know, do you reject it or accept it? Like we've talked about before? And I think with you, it's a matter of you rejected it at first and now you're wanting to accept that emotion and what you felt and experience it again in a capacity.

But you can't have the chicken without the egg, right? So your career wouldn't be where it is today if you had been in a relationship yeah you're right hands down because this has been your relationship cheers amigo I love you you always know what to say to make me feel good

and when Andy gets quiet he gets pretty introspective and it's cool that I'm just sitting right across from him and he's just like it's cool a lot of strays man across from him and he's just like, it's cool. Thank you. A lot of restraints, man. You don't realize, you know, you go through these things where you're just always thinking about the next step.

And then right when you stop thinking about the next step and just live in the moment, it's, everything slaps you in the face. It's suddenly, well, in one of two ways, it slaps you in the face that it's like, this was,

this is what I was preparing you for. Or it's like, duh. I mean, they're just like palms of the face things. Like it's every time. You're like, oh, that's it. It could be a moment of joy and it could be a moment of, oh, learning. It makes you stop and think like,

why am I overthinking things? The minute I stop overthinking things, the answers come. Right. So why suppress feelings? As soon as we release that to the universe and our heart's desire goes out, the universe says,

your wish is my command. It says, it brings that back. And oftentimes it's way more than we expected. Same thing with this guy, Vince Herman. Yeah. The man.

This guy's cool. I didn't realize how much we are like he's he's the brother i never had he's a brother from another mother he's great yeah we had such a great interview um we relate in a special way like you and i relate do you feel mentored by him he's older 100 yeah i mean is he old enough to be your dad? Is he your dad's age? No, he's younger than that. Okay. But he could be my father.

Yeah. But he's a leadership role. He's a leadership figure for you. Yeah. He's just the best. He's everything a friend should be. That's dope. Yeah, it's cool. And you guys get a talk.

We get along. We vibe. We get nerdy. Enjoy this Vince Herman interview. If you don't know Vince Herman, he's cool. And you guys get a talk. We get along, we vibe, we get nerdy. Enjoy this Vince Herman interview. If you don't know Vince Herman, he's in Leftover Salmon. Great, great folk band. They've been doing it for 20 years too. Just gigging hard, smashing through it,

and doing it for the purpose. And the purpose is just finding inner happiness. I hope you enjoy the interview. Woo! See any opium? In northern Thailand, I did. Up in the hill tribes there, and the Karen and the Hmong and all that.

Oh, man, it's beautiful. Yeah, it's crazy. Beautiful places up there, man. Yeah, I just went to Thailand. We went to the south. Nice. I took my band. We went on an excursion.

Did you take your band and take mushrooms? I sure did. Ladies and gentlemen, we're with the man, the myth, the sweet, precious angel child. What's up, Vinnie Herman? How you doing, buddy? I'm doing so good, man. You know, I feel more like a dude now than I ever have, Frasco. Tell me about that.

See, I'm just new. See, I'm new to you. Yeah. I have one story with you. You probably don't remember. I played with you before. And we hung out. Oh, yeah.

I remember this one time. But I knew I was going to be friends with you that moment. We didn't even talk. I saw you staying on the side, on the left. And you're just in the moment. And I... Are you talking about way back in Arkansas? Arkansas.

What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vinny. Yeah. I feel like I was crushing on you then. Now our bonding at Jam Cruise just made us brothers. But, you know, for those of you listening, full disclosure, Andy and I have a secret in our relationship.

Finally. This is me and his relationship? Yeah, it's a new relationship and already we have things we're not telling each other. But I have to say. You've been looking at me differently ever since I've seen you. I've been looking at you differently since at the end of a hang on jam cruise. As you were leaving, you turned around and said i'm gonna set you free i'm ready man i because you are the freest being on the planet as far as i can

tell thanks vinnie if it's just a first impression or a second we'll see how good i am on the second day yeah yeah today's a new day the revolution begins today it's nice we're going to spelling be on our second date. I know. It's going to be cute. You better wear that pretty dress I told you. I'm thinking about wearing a onesie. Yeah, I think so. Onesie is the new fashion direction, don't you think? Yeah, I think so. I've seen a lot

and not just unicorn costumes. There's pandas out there. I'm self-conscious. My dick is small. I can't wear a onesie on stage and just have it look like a – like it looks like just like one moose knuckle. Not even like a full moose knuckle. Yeah, but dude, I mean, at least you've got that chiseled six-pack abs, man.

I've got like a 12-pack there, you know? No. And, you know, so – Do you ever – You rock that one – Is it sweaty, though? How do you rock that shit on stage? It's not bad, you know, but yeah. Do you ever, you rock that one, is it sweaty though? How do you rock that shit on stage? It's not bad.

You know, I mean, like, you know, it works good at Wondergrass, Winter Wondergrass and stuff like that, you know, where you're playing out in a snowstorm and stuff, you know. Oh, yeah. But, you know, I saw, you know, your time on stage is your time on stage. And if you've got to be in a sweatsuit, man, you know, rock it. You know, I saw Lenny Kravitz fall down at a racetrack in Dallas one time.

It was like 120 degrees. And we were playing Horde Tour. Horde Tour. 120 degrees, Dallas. Three in the afternoon. Kravitz is on. Comes out in the full

black leather jacket, pants. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Looking freaking good, man. Fell down on the fourth tune. Was that when Benson was in the full black leather jacket, pants. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Looking freaking good, man. Fell down on the fourth tune. Was that when Benson was in the band? Fell over, boom. Yeah, yeah.

Flat out, man. Yeah. Did he pass out or was it just too hot? It was just too hot. Too hot. So, I don't wear leather on stage. That's what I'm saying. Or leather that might...

Did you see his dick pop out? I don't wear leather on stage. That's what I'm saying. Or leather that might. Do you see his dick? Did you see his dick pop out? I don't know. I don't know. You see that video of his dick pop out, though? No. So he was doing a move. He's still wearing the leather pants.

This is two years ago. Really? You know, he did the move like. Yeah. He did one boom. Leather pants. Split. 20,000 people.

Dick out. Huge dick. Huge dick. I was like, what the fuck and the video is just so and he's just he just rocks it so good he's like a pro he's like just like this just like kind of like like puts it under like it looks like a vagina and just keeps rocking tuck the man johnny in there man and uh some guys just know just know they've been in the game so long that they are going to be malfunctions.

What was the craziest malfunction? It's probably going to happen tonight when I put on this onesie and my fucking little needle dick pops out. I'm really excited because you have no idea what I'm about to do to you. Not at all. It's going to be great. That's secrets, man. How many people out there listening

have secrets you know with true things they're about to do to people right now you know we're not the only ones in this position you're right you know you're right sometimes i think that i'm the only one thinking in this position no man you got. You got Robert Mueller feeling that. You got James Comey feeling that. Yeah. You know? I feel that. No, just in general.

This is why people feel you fucking crazy ass. Before we were coming here, he's yelling at the screen. Vinny was yelling at the screen because they were going to have some guy from West Virginia.

Don Blankenship is the... Don Blankenship. He... Don Blankenship. He's the biggest asshole in the whole damn world, man. And he's such an asshole. Trump is telling people not to support him. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. He's beyond fucking crazy.

He killed 29 people in a mining accident because the culture of his mine safety allowed these people to die because he didn't give a shit. He was only worried about running coal and making money. And he went to prison for, what, like six months or something like that? It was all the 29 deaths. And now he has the balls to run for Senate? That's insane. Even Trump thinks it's insane.

If he does, we should really go to West Virginia. Absolutely. What do you want to do? What should we do? I lived in Morgantown, West Virginia for a long time, and I'm a huge West Virginia freak.

And if Don Blankenship starts gaining any support, we're there. We're there. Let's go and clear their shit up i mean i'm down i'll go you know i'll go with you lyndon johnson started the appalachian war on poverty in the 60s we're gonna start the appalachian war on fucking don blank and shit why do you think people aren't protesting like that anymore in this generation? Because they're looking at their cell phones.

And they're seeing something different? We protest by putting articles about things on our Facebook page. That's a little easier than going to the streets as far as people in power. But it sounds a little weak. Has it done anything besides talk? I mean, look what happened with our election. People voted on their Twitter feeds and didn't go out to the polls and actually voted. What's the point? It's not working.

People need to figure out a different way to revolt, I think. Mountaintop removal was a real factor in West Virginia up until a few years ago. And I was involved in a protest march up to a place called Blair Mountain, which was scheduled to be mountaintop removed, and it should be a national historic site because it was the only place in United States history where the U.S. government dropped bombs on American citizens. This is in the 1930s.

There was a coal miner strike, and they actually bombed the miners from stopping their way to getting into Charleston, West Virginia. And this site was going to be mountaintop removed where they just come and take the top of the mountain off, and it should be a national monument. So we had this big march. How many of you? Probably about 3,000, 4,000 people in rural West Virginia. It was a great experience, and a concert that night, and honoring Hazel Dickens. Anyways, we did that, and we felt like we were maybe making a change.

But the change that really happened was fracking took over. And it's not worth it to mountaintop remove anymore. So economics are really what did it. But it felt good to go out and protest anyways. That's amazing. Was that the only protest you've done in your life? Oh, hell no. I need to hear more.

I played at a mountaintop removal festival that happened in D.C. right in front of the White House and doing all that kind of shit. Man, in college, we used to protest every weekend, man. After the bars got out about two in the morning, we'd light campfires in the street and shit, and

the fire department would come and put them out, and we'd rinse, lather, repeat the next weekend. And I got training in social movements so that when I see the kind of things that Andy Frasco does in crowd control, I think, man, fucking Mussolini got nothing on this guy. Man, but I learned from y'all, man. You do it too, man. When you talk, they listen. So how can we make them listen with clear ears?

Man. Because I'm trying to do the same thing. I'm just trying to wake them up. Get them out of their fucking cell phones and fucking live in the moment. They're scared to. How many people are listening to this podcast on their cell phones, though? That's true.

So I thought the revolution won't be tweeted. The revolution has to be tweeted. I think so. It has to be tweeted. It has to be Facebooked. But, you know, I guess the revolution already is being Facebooked and it's Cambridge Analytica, you know,

getting the sum total of information from our cell phone, our tweets, and all that stuff, and figuring out the psychological profiles of how best to manipulate us. How do we fit into that? I have no fucking idea. I think, that's what I'm saying. We need to all get the fuck off these social medias,

and they're manipulating all our analytics anyway. They're getting all our analytics anyway they're getting all our analytics so they know exactly what i want to buy what i want to see so why don't we just all just turn off it brings up this this great book i read way back in college it's called the doll maker and it's about this woman during world war ii is leaving oak ridge tennessee and go she leaves. It's poverty. It's, you know, the war is going on, all these jobs in the factories,

the great Appalachian migration. And she goes to Cleveland and ends up with this root, this big root she takes with her, and she's carving it. And she can't tell if it's the hand of Jesus or Judas coming out of it, you know, and all these horrible things happen, man. But her dream was to go and go to the big city and provide for her family and do all those kind of things. she was sold this dream of having a refrigerator and having electricity and stuff like that. And the question it really asked is, are our dreams our own or are they sold to us? They're sold to us.

Yeah, and that's what we have to... Have they been coming? Because this is what I'm trying to think. How to stay happy through a long period of time if it's through finding your dreams or going dream catching we don't like that joint let's like that absolutely we're gonna get all fucking my dream yeah speaking of that what is the dream oh man one of the most dreamy moments of my life is when I'm in my lives. When I'm playing music with my kids. Yeah.

That's just some of the funner shit you can do. Like what? Like singing with your kids? Do they sing too? Yeah, man. Colin plays bass and Silas plays guitar, mandolin, a bunch of stuff. And we have a little trio, the Herman Clan, THC. No. I fucking love you, man. Now I'm starting to know you. I'm getting all this.

High five. Yeah, man. That's the fun stuff to do, you know? Let's talk about the band a little bit. How long have you been together? 28 years. 28 fucking years? How long gigging? How long you been together? 28 years. 28 fucking years? How long gigging?

How long gigging? Like, how many shows a year hard? Well, you know, back in the early years, we were hitting 230, 240. But we're down to a little over 100 now. You were called the left-hand string band in the Salmonheads? Yep, Drew Emmett, my co-padre here. You guys have been working together the whole time?

Yeah. Yes, sir. Tell me about that dynamic. Is that hard? Because I've been with I'm with my band now 13 years, and there's some days I want to kill the motherfuckers. We've wrestled. We wrestle. It's about 13 years and there's some days i want to kill the motherfuckers oh yeah oh yeah yeah we wrestle

yeah oh yeah i mean it's about and drew and i are born a couple days apart you know we're both gemini so you know between the four of us you know i mean that's what i'm thinking like one you gotta catch him i bet you when you're on your great day he's on his great day fucking that that heaven heaven is on earth that's that's crazy yeah yeah i mean i'm on my third marriage but you know uh you know drew and i are still together yeah i've never had a girlfriend in my life vinny never never man i've i'm in love with my band and it makes me lonely. I'm super fucking lonely. But I'm so goal-driven through my message, my path, that I feel I don't have.

But you are so present. To be able to do what you do to a crowd, you're so present. You may be goal-driven, man, but you were right. You may be looking down the road, but you do to a crowd. You're so present. You may be goal-driven, man, but you were right. Yeah, you may be looking down the road, but you were right here now. Man, you were the master of that. So don't worry about having a goal. That'll be okay.

Okay. That won't ruin you. God, I get so neurotic about it. Like if I stop like thinking about the goal or the dream that it's not,'s gonna just diminish yeah yeah and i gotta think it's not how it is you you're you're on the path regardless you know that that's

uh we just played red rocks this past weekend with congratulations and it felt the 11th time incredibly just comfortable and and on on frantic on you know it was it was just you know we we've been training for this for years you know we just went out and did what we do you know and and it's it's it's cool is that your favorite Yeah, I'd probably have to say that. The Telluride Bluegrass Festival sits in a pretty sweet spot itself. Oh, my God, that view. I think those are the top two for us, for sure. Wow. It's insane, man.

You've been gigging 28 years. So, yeah, I started off. I moved to Colorado from West Virginia in 1985 and we when we first pulled into to boulder colorado yeah uh you know chasing this mythical bluegrass scene that we heard was in colorado pulled up in front of this bar i said bluegrass tonight and like fuck yeah i walked in drew emmett playing with the left hand string band uh a year and a half later, I got the job as a guitar player in the band, played with that for about a year until they fired me.

Yeah? Yeah. What did he do? I'll be completely honest why we had to fire Vince. Because he broke strings so much. And we loved him. We loved playing with him. it was so much fun.

We were like, damn, we got to fire Vince because he spends half the gig on his knees. Fucking. And he, he, he couldn't afford strings. We were all poor as fuck back then.

So Vince would spend like half the time actually not replacing the strings, but tying them off. Yeah. Tie the, tie the, you know, the loop end. You could tie the string replacing the strings, but tying them off. Yeah. I tie the tie that, you know, the little loop end, you can tie the string back around it, you know?

So that's crazy. So like, Dan, we, we got to fire Vince because he spends fucking half the show on his knees and he's not working, man. It is halftime at the Enni Fresco interview hour.

Hi, this is Mike Dillon, and you're listening to Storytime with Uncle Mike. Wow! Storytime with Uncle Mike. Hey, Andy, it's Uncle Mike G. You're not going to believe what happened. I was on tour with Primus doing the Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory tour. The tour manager wakes us up in the middle of the night and says, get out, we've got to move a tree.

So we open the bus door, get out. He's like, be careful. And you can see down a 2,000-foot ledge. Somehow the bus driver had taken a back road and got us on a low-zone restricted road that this giant Fevo tour bus should have never been on. We're on the side of a 2,000-foot cliff. And it's literally a one-lane road. At one point, we had to make this curve.

And we look out the back, and the back of the bus is hanging over. We were all literally ashen white with fear, knowing that there's no cell service. If the Primus tour bus had gone over the side of the mountain, no one would have found us for days. But luckily, the power of the Colonel Les Claypool, Lair, and Herb collectively with that amazing bus driver kept us from going over the fog.

Wow! Story time with Uncle Mike. Hey, you know what? Can I tell you, this is Larry Rust, our road manager Before he worked with us He was Ron Jeremy's road manager What? Sit your ass down in this seat I used to work at a porn house

I lived in a porn house Oh my god, tell me about this I'm curious about Stickmin. Like, this is a thing of, I'm really curious about him. Because I lived in a porn house. I grew up in the valley, like Los Angeles,

but like the, like, Chatsworth area. So like, they'd rent these big houses and basically I would just, I would live there, make sure none of the crackheads or the meth heads would take any of the shit from the house after they'd fuck.

You know, like, because they'd get paid, you know, 500 bucks. But you saw some weird shit, like five people. I'd walk out. I'd walk out to smoke a cigarette and eat some cereal. And I see this little Asian girl in my living room. Oh, OK, cool. They're doing like an Asian porn, whatever. Walk outside.

Six huge fucking black dudes just stroking their dicks like oh the laker game you know the laker game is gonna be cool i think they're gonna win by 10 or something in my pool like i couldn't even bring my mother to those places so like what when when were you as tour manager okay we weren't doing anything graphic and had nothing to do with with porn it was called the two inches from the floor tour so we'd go into like rock clubs like higher ground in burlington or something like that or or Dante's in Portland. What was it like? Well, it was heavily based on comedy and audience participation. So we would have, Ron would come out and he'd tell some jokes. We'd always have a DJ to spend some music and

we'd do banana swallowing contests. Spitter Swallow was always fun where we'd get four or five girls up there and blindfold them and I'd go get a variety of things. Like Lamb's Tongue was one of my favorite things I found in Boston at the, what's the club there? The Middle East we were playing.

And I asked the girl, you're not a vegetarian, I hope. And she said, yeah. And then I licked the side of her face and fed her some tongue. What are you going to do? Where did you come from? Yuba City, California. Born and raised. No, but you know, I'd had a pool and some wife beaters and little stretchy pants. You use the Johnson's baby shampoo in the pool, does not burn the eyes, have a little slippery thing at the end

of the night. And of course, banana swallowing was always one of the popular things. Best orgasm noise. But my favorite, when there was a projector available, I found some of the most wrong scenes that I could find from all of the... We always had a porn shop that sponsored us in all the markets. So I ended up with this amazing collection of nastiness. And so I took the worst that I could find out of that nastiness and I would project it on a screen and we'd have Porto karaoke. What?

And that was always, that was always a good time. You know, what about, tell me about was Ron sticking. Yeah. I'm just like, uh, like girls always want to fuck him. You know, man, what happens on the road? I don't know. I don't know. I just want to hear, I just want to know.

It was like, was he like, like, did women really love Ron? Oh, yeah. Yeah? Oh, yeah. That's so fucking awesome. He's awesome. He's a great guy. He's awesome. I've always seen all these Bax footies.

I grew up in LA. He's around. Oh, yeah. And he always seems like he's the life of the party. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that's what I love. I love those types of people.

Great sense of humor. They're alive. That's what, Vinny, they're alive. I think we need to wake people up. I think it's like, this is the time. Everyone is curious. Everyone's looking for that revolution now. They weren't looking for it a couple years ago.

Now everyone's kind of like, all right, let's see. Do you feel that? I feel that in the streets a little bit more. Well, you know, 2012 was the i feel that in the streets a little bit more well you know uh 2012 was the end of the mayan calendar some say it's not it's not the end of it it's the end of one of the uh the epics of the mayan calendar and another one starts because you know it's not the end of the world when the mayan calendar and it's the end of a mindset that the world functioned by that changed in 2012. Super expanding change.

The rate of change is just speeding up and speeding up and speeding up. And soon we're not going to have to work. We'll be a recreational society. We're going to have to figure out what the hell we want to do to have to work. We'll be a recreational society. We're going to have to figure out what the hell we want to do when we wake up. With our day. And now is the time to start looking at that in a totally different way.

And that's the revolution. Are you fully awake? I don't think I am. I don't think I am either. It's the matrix, man. You know, that kind of keeps us a little bit confused, you know? I mean, I think Trump's technique is to throw a thousand scandals out, you know, a week, so that nobody really knows what's going on because you're trying to catch up. Yeah.

With, oh, and then, like, what's the real because you're trying to catch up yeah with oh and then and then like what's the real narrative winding through it you know that that's what we have to be awake to man and that's boy that takes good journalism first of all yeah seriously yeah because the minutes out there i feel like it's deleted pretty quick yeah yeah yeah we have a short attention absorbed like they just have you know they're pretty masterminds about that. They'll have, like, a thousand publicity companies that all blast the same article. But, like, those two journalists who are really, they only have a certain reach. So when you have to skim through the fat, it's hard to find that shit, I think.

Yeah. Like, there's no reason that you shouldn't be uh you know on right after howard stern yeah you know don't you think i love that i mean yeah i don't think so either i think that this podcast is is you know um you know confined to those that listen to it you know this should be broadcast yeah you know this kind of shit should be broadcast Yeah You know This kind of shit Should be broadcast Loud volume In Times Square

24-7 I agree Let's head over there You want to go over there? Protest a little bit? We got two hours For the show Vinny

A couple things Go on More things I want to know As a songwriter As a musician Are you content With your body of work so far? as a songwriter, as a musician, are you content with your body of work so far?

Or do you feel like you could write better songs? Or do you feel like you could always get better? Have you found your opus yet? I definitely have not watered my inner opus enough by paying attention to it with my time i you know i have friends who wake up every morning and spend two hours writing boom every day you know and and work the craft like that i i never have been a disciplined writer or disciplined anything and and, and, and, and feel that I w I would love to do that. I would love to do more co-writing. Um, I really want to want to work in, in the visual realm and I'd love to do a comedy show. I'd love, you know, to, I'd love to, to make a movies, man. I, you

know, I, you know, me too, you know know i want to be a cartoon you know yeah what would your cartoon name be yeah well uh oh uh cubensis trout beard yeah what's his uh what's his strengths and what's his weaknesses uh cubensis trout beard has psychedelic powers which mostly are visual uh his powers are are not ones that affect other people at all it's just his powers give him a deep understanding of the universe as perceived by trout. It's beautiful, actually. Yeah. Yeah, and all the migration things that fish have and their understanding of the electromagnetic spectrum

provides pretty amazing information that is only accessible through the character of cuban's trout beard what are his weaknesses worms can't stay away from the damn things hungry yeah yeah and you know we we all fall victim to our hungers yeah you know cuban's trout beard is no different than you or I in that sense. What do you think your hungers are? Playing music, connecting with friends, and having people turn up together, you know? And music serves that for me. for me. It's a well, it's an artistic outlet

and that it's for me, I guess, probably primarily a social occurrence in that exchange. You know, I love to play rowdy bluegrass music because what it does to people.

You know? Yeah. And not only is it really fun to do, but for me, it's the overarching goal is, you know, 15,000 people doing a bar mitzvah. You know, I mean, when I saw you play for the first time, it was like, that guy is doing everything I ever wanted to do on stage.

And like within the first five minutes of seeing your your freedom and and and control and not giving a fuck while giving the ultimate fuck you know is is amazing you know and and um yeah you know i i think you know we we step a little bit in in in that direction get it honest but you know we're not we step a little bit in that direction, get it on us. But, you know, we're not free enough in some sense. Yeah. You know, I worked at Capitol Records for six years. You did? Yeah.

I was on the other side. I wanted to be a booking agent. I used to book bands around the country when I was 14. Wow. I used to tell my mom like i'm taking this band on tour i'm going out it's like okay yeah 14 i was djing bar mitzvahs and like just like doing the thing just like learning how to entertain people and then i like 15 i started uh booking Lifeline Promotion. And I used to cold call thousands of venues and book bands for people

and then Capitol and Drive Thru Records heard about me and I started working for them and I had to fake my age because they didn't know I was fucking 15 or 16. So I'm like...

You were 15 or 16 when you went to work for Capitol? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It happened like in the 30s

and stuff like that. Wow. I just say, oh, yeah, I only take calls at noon and 1030. I'm out of school. I'm really busy. I'm really busy. You know, I was. So.

And when did this mythical piano lesson happen with Holly? Her husband was my philosophy teacher at san francisco state in 19 so you were you were 19 years old i was 19 i'm like fuck it i'm done with it was 2006 record label record label business blew up they they they fired all the young cats kept the old guys that's how that's what fucked it up is none of the old guys understood new media, new marketing and new new strategies to promote records. And they just kept on dumping money on stuff that wasn't fucking relevant anymore. But anyway, so I'll go on and rant about that. But regardless, 2006, I quit and then I was on my teacher.

I want to be a third grade teacher. I'm going to go major in philosophy. And Holly's husband was my philosophy teacher. And he's like, oh my God, I love music. I love music. Why don't you take a lesson from my wife, Holly? I'm like, okay. And I took one lesson.

And the next day I saw Damien Rice play in Oakland. And I saw the concert. I just hung out with Holly. I quit school. I knew what I was doing. I bought a van at $9,000 left with my bar mitzvah money. And I fucking bought a van at E350. And I cold called.

I heard, you know, I cold called 2, called 2000 venues just instead of booking for them i just booked myself for five straight years and i would just go drive by myself to each town and hire a band on craigslist and learn how to fucking entertain people did you play enough piano at that point i played enough to show the band what you wanted. Yeah, just three-chord song. But all right, we're playing A, G, and F for 20 minutes. I'm going to jump in the crowd. You fucking keep this going. We're getting paid tonight.

You know, it was only making 300 bucks. I had to play for four fucking hours. I had six songs. Like, we were getting paid tonight. You know, fuck this. I'm going to play disco until you fucking can't stand it no more.

Until you're drunk enough to go fuck someone in the corner. You know, like, I'm going for it. I'm giving to play disco until you fucking can't stand it no more. Until you're drunk enough to go fuck someone in the corner. I'm going for it. I'm giving dance moves. We played drunk-ass college bars. Because I'd have to find Tuesdays in blah, blah, blah state school. And find a gig for the $2 U-Collets. And just get them drunk so people would be there.

And then they'd see me play. And then build my career from there amazing it's crazy amazing i just always wanted to be a front man i didn't care what it was if it was music if it was like comedy or if it you know fucking dj and bar mitzvah i just wanted to entertain people and that's what I'm good at. I'm not the best soloist. I'm not the best... I really want to be a really great songwriter. But I guess my gift is just

waking people up. You are a great songwriter. Blame it on the pussy is brilliant. Yeah? Brilliant. It's not your mother. You know? It's none of that.

You're right. Maybe I'm just overthinking. I'm just judging myself through other people. I don't know. This is crazy. I've been on the road. I've done 250 shows a year for 11 straight years.

I've been hitting it road I've done 250 shows a year for 11 straight years like what do I it's like a damn you know I've been hitting it hard like playing every single place I can from the Netherlands to Germany

like fucking I'll figure it out with my band I'll just we'll break even and we'll just fucking ride or die it you know

and just live on the road cause it's cheaper to live on the road than to go home and get girlfriends and shit and like buy your own beer and fucking have kids and start you know it's cheaper to live on the road than to go home and get girlfriends and shit and like buy your own beer

and fucking have kids and start, you know, it's like, you know what I'm saying? It just starts getting expensive. And then the road is not for,

for you anymore. It's for them. And that's, if it's selfish, it's selfish. But like, this is my baby. This is what gets me.

This is what makes my heart happy. The minute the road feels like a job, I don't want to do it anymore. I want to love it. This is like my release. You know what I'm saying? There are many lives to live, my man. Many lives.

You already had 17 different incarnations, man, from the DJ to the guy at the label. I mean mean you've done all that by the way andy i know i don't know when this would be broadcast but it's 4 20 right now light it up baby okay all right so the thing about writing music and and what i'm hoping will will will be my next round of writing. It's kind of like a homework project or something like that. If I have something to write for, I'll write for it.

So we're going to do this show. We're going to have to do this live. We have a lot to talk about. We're going to continue doing this as our friendship goes. Well, let me just put in a rejoinder here when the secret is revealed tonight we'll talk then by eyes

only eyes we need to stare each other deeply yeah yeah I love you Vin I love you man it's gonna be a great friendship

Vinnie Herman Andy Frasco Frasco and Vinnie out now a message from the UN It's going to be a great friendship. Benny Herman. Andy Frasco. Frasco and Benny. Out. Now, a message from the UN. Say it's a pussy to Corey Montgomery Send him some money for a big bag of blow Just give him one thing for him to talk on to cause fucking in dumpsters

is the wrong thing to do there you have it my dog Vince Herman thank you Papa Vince man I didn't know I can't believe I told you that story about the teacher

we were talking about it should I have said that yeah it's cool yeah I don't want. I can't believe I told you that story about the teacher. We were talking about it. Should I have said that? Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. I don't want to sound like a tool. I really did love her. And that's just it. Like we discussed is that you had, you know,

you experienced something you'd never experienced before. And when it didn't work out the way you wanted it to, you dealt with it I would argue the only way you knew how at the time or the best way you knew how. How about that? And

you wouldn't be where you are today if you'd been chasing skirts instead of chasing microphones. Yeah, you're right. Don't worry about it. Thanks, Yeti. Don't worry about it. I overthink shit. All right, guys.

I hope you had fun today. We had fun. Did you have fun, Yeti? I learned a lot. It was a hootenanny. I'm being more vulnerable on this. I like this. It's good stuff.

I got to stop worrying about if my mother's going to listen to it or not. I did. I stopped. I totally stopped. Yeah, I don't worry about it. I mean, I think on one episode, I admitted to doing cocaine. You did. It's like one stopped. Yeah, I don't worry about it. I mean, I think on one episode I admitted to doing cocaine.

You did. It's like one time. Yeah, I tried it. Well, that's it. That's all we got for you today, guys. Stay tuned next week. We got a lot of great acts coming in. I'm about to go on the road. I'm about to interview a bunch of people, too. So if you don't hear from us,

like if we skip a week, I apologize. Sometimes that happens because we are. 250 days a year. Yeah. And we're, we're not in the same town that often. And so.

But I'll try to get as much content we can and keep this podcast alive. Yeti, love you. Follow us on Instagram. Follow us on Spotify. Follow us on iTunes. Rate us on iTunes. Let's keep this thing going.

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