Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 80: Laura Lee (Khruangbin)

Episode Date: April 14, 2020

Andy gets reprimanded by his manager for getting *too* into video editing. On the Interview Hour, we welcome Laura Lee, bassist for Khruangbin and textbook definition of Cool. Laura talks staying present on stage, the makeshift summer camp she's made for herself, and the chilly barn that Khruangbin utilizes. Shawn, the Quarantine Bard, soothes us with a song for the era. Dolav yells about sports and then joins Andy to close the show out. Stay inside & reach out if you need a sympathetic ear. This is EP 80. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new album, "Change Of Pace" on iTunes and Spotify Make love to your ear drums & listen to khruangbin.bandcamp.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Brian Schwartz Ahri Findling Shawn Eckels Dolav Cohen Arno Bakker 

Hey, it's short. Listen, you're not responsive. You're you're not delivering on what we need to properly promote this new album. It seems you've sort of pushed your whole career side to make videos. And it's great. You got a lot of views. I love the videos. You're not even using your own music. So I would encourage you to get back in the game, to pull your head out of your ass. But the reality is you're a much better musician than you are an editor.

You're also a much better entertainer than you are an editor. And I'm not going to let you fuck up the last three years of my hard work, my team's hard work. The label's been asking for quotes. The label's been asking for interviews. The label's been asking for interviews. And you're ignoring everything. And you're hurting yourself. You can't survive on making videos with the Upfreeze McGee guys

and the Ghost Light people and whoever. Very fun, great videos. We need them. We need the PSA. But you can't do them at the expense of your career. So please get it together. I'm hoping that this message resonates with you. And by Friday after the next shit show, you are fully focused and back in it with us.

Thanks, dude. Bye. Andy, it's Mike at Cameo. I'm looking at an email that I got complaining about a cameo you sent yesterday where, according to this recipient, you were completely nude chugging a bottle of Jameson. We've gone over this. I called you last month. You can't do stuff like this. You have to adhere to our guidelines.

You can't be nude. You can't curse at the people, calling them racial slurs. You can't do any of that kind of stuff. We're going to remove you if you don't adhere to the guidelines. If you have any questions, go to your page on the site. Everything is there. There's tons of FAQs. There's a lot of rules.

Please just follow them. I don't want to remove you from the site. We have a lot of requests for you. I want you to be able to earn a living, but you just can't be completely naked. Call me if you have any questions. Otherwise, just see the page on the site. All right, we're here.

Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's everyone doing today? How's our heads? How's our quarantine doing? I took a week off from the pod and fucking editing my dick off and trying to build this live stream podcast, the shit show that we're doing. So shout out to everyone who's been watching that. But we're here, guys. Shit's getting a little more realer. New York, fucking 8,000 people dying. California, a lot of people dying. And it's, you know, we don't realize how close to home it is when it finally hits home.

So, you know, I know you guys are probably getting cabin fever. Your fucking girlfriends and boyfriends and roommates probably pissing you off. hits home. So, you know, I know you guys are probably getting cabin fever, your fucking girlfriends and boyfriends and roommates probably pissing you off. Just stay focused. Do this for the people who are, you know, who get sick quick. You know, we got to think of everyone else. This is what the quarantine taught me too. It's, I've been being less selfish with how I live and how I'm focusing my, uh, my path. You know,

we're, we sometimes forget about everyone else cause we're so busy with our own worlds and their jobs and our, you know, our lives. And, uh, to see everyone come together,

like I, it made me almost cry when, um, at eight o'clock in Denver, shout out to Denver, by the way. Like, it made me almost cry when at 8 o'clock in Denver. Shout out to Denver, by the way. And people are hooting and hollering and fucking fireworks are blasting off. Like, it's the motherfucking 4th of July at 8 o'clock because that's when all the workers change shifts that are working at the hospitals. And, you know, the cops.

Shout out to everyone just fucking in the Rona. They're in that Rona so hard. And they just come in and out of that shit. And so shout out to all the nurses and the doctors. Everyone just fucking trying to figure out what the fuck is Gucci. And they're doing a great job. So I just want to give some love to them. Because to see everyone have their back.

And fuck yeah. Fuck yeah, guys. Way to go. Way to be fucking good human beings. But life's crazy, man. You sit here by yourself, you start thinking about everything. Think about your life, think about what I could do to be a better person, you know, because you're with yourself. And these are the important times to find out who the fuck we are. It's crazy. You sit on your couch, you're fucking done with watching Netflix, stared wall for a second. I've been doing the mushrooms only on the shit shows. Because if I do the mushrooms every day when I'm just sitting at this house, I think I'll start becoming schizophrenic. So just be careful with that shit. I know we're drinking a lot. Talk to everybody and everyone's drinking their dicks off or vagines off. And, you know, I get it.

We got to get through it some way. Just be cautious about if you're getting too drunk and you're becoming an asshole, just maybe cut it down a little bit. You know, think about others and whatnot. I've been trying to get wasted after 9 p.m., go work, and then I'm like, ah, yeah, there we go. So it's the beginning of quarantine. I was like, fuck, let's just get fucked up.

So just so I know you, I went on a hike today. It was fucking tight. Go outside. It was nice. Everyone's keeping their distance and shit, just fucking laying low, being humans in a weird society at the point.

But we're going to make it through. That's right. We're going to make it through. Look, I got all these sound effects now. Just in case I can laugh at my own jokes. Podcast is improving, guys. I don't have shows until August or late July. I think a lot of musicians don't have shows till late

July. So I'm going to build this podcast. We're going to make it sweet. We're going to build a talk show, the world-saving shit show. We got all these people coming on the show. We got this week on Thursday, we have Jay Maskis from fucking Dinosaur Junior. We have Dave Schools. My record comes out in two weeks, which I'm fucking excited. It's been a minute and I feel like the world needs these in two weeks, which I'm fucking excited. It's been a minute, and I feel like the world needs these songs right now, and I'm really proud of it, and I think it's relevant to what we're doing.

I'm putting out a documentary on Friday about the Corona V, the Rona, and what's happening in the music industry and how we're trying to give it as much entertainment and try to make you guys as happy as we can all day, every day. So shout out to all the musicians just working fucking hard, working hard trying to figure out their new life, live streaming. Some of these motherfuckers don't even know technology, and they're doing this shit.

They're throwing that motherfucking phone up. It's fucking awesome. Thank you for supporting all these musicians. Everyone's stoked on the tips everyone's been giving them and just supporting the guys. And you guys are the best. Not including my shit show, but all the live streams y'all have been donating to, fuck yeah. That's awesome. Because those guys, musicians are proud. They don't want to admit when they need help. And you guys are helping them out. So shout out to all you motherfuckers right here.

Hold on one second. Oh, no. Yeah, shout out to you. Shout out to you, music listeners. Keeping the fucking dream alive. Ladies and gentlemen, we've got an exciting, exciting show for you tonight. Laura Leasy from Crungbin, y'all. We became homies.

She was in my movie. Which one was she in? I Want to Dance with Somebody. She was killer. She's badass. So we chit-chatted for a bit via quarantine. And it was a great conversation. I think you're going to like it. This is my first one on the phone because

we're in that quarantine life. Excuse the audio if it sucks, but I don't think it will. I think this're going to like it. This is my first one on the phone because we're in that quarantine life. So excuse the audio if it sucks, but I don't think it will. I think this board is getting – I'm becoming a tech guy. It's fucking awesome. I've always wanted to be a tech guy. And, dude, I like it. I'm like OCD, so all this like doing all this mapping and shit is fucking cool. Okay, enough of me chittering away.

Smoked a little joint, went on a hike, so I'm all juiced up. But stay safe out there. We got a great interview for you. I'm going to come back on the show with my boy Dolov. My boy Dolov drove fucking 15 hours to be with me. He heard it in my voice. I used to sound lonely. And so he came out.

So he's been quarantining with me for about, I don't know, nine days now when this episode comes out, and come out for another week or two. It's going to be a blast. We're having fun. And so he's been on my shit show. He's my sidekick. So we're going to do a little convo, because I don't think we haven't

talked in a bit on the podcast. All right, guys. Enjoy Loreleazy. We're going to have a great show for you. Stay positive. I know this shit, we're in the middle of it. We're like, pretend like you're just running through a, you're doing a fucking hike or something like I did today. I'm like, fuck.

I'm walking so much, I'm going to have to walk back down this motherfucker. And I was like, okay. I got blisters on my feet. I was feeling like a fucking Moses through the desert. I was like, yeah, I got this shit. And then was like, okay I got blisters on my feet And I was feeling like a fucking Moses to the desert I was like, yeah, I got this shit And then I realized, fuck, I got two and a half more miles to go And I just fucking rocketed

Chris, play some Rocky music right now Fuck yeah, it was badass I was rocking, I was walking First time I got out So we got this Halfway through, you know, just fucking pretend like you're punching the rocking The punching bag Like fucking Rocky, baby. We got this. All right. Quarantine edition. Lori Leezy. Enjoy the show. I'll see you on the tail end.

All right. Next up on the interview hour, we got Lori Leezy from Krungbin. Chris, play some Krungbin. Yes. got Laura Lacey. And Krungbin. Chris, play some Krungbin. Yes. Yes. These guys are fucking badass. We played with them on the jam cruise. My agent books them. John Bongiorno. Shout out

to John Bond. Our Jerry McGuire. He represents Krungbin as well. And it was a great convo. Badass, dude. She's just got it all going on. You get to hear the story. Now, I was interested in the story, too, because I didn't hear it. I don't know much about the band.

I started listening to the record, and fucking, it's badass. So shout out to the gang. And ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy Miss Laura. I'm going to call you. You're like Miss Hill to me. Miss Laura from Chrome. What's up, Laura? How you doing? Thanks for coming on the show.

Hey. But isn't it amazing, though, how quarantine is really getting people together? Yeah. I mean, big time, I feel more connected in a way. But isn't it amazing, though, how quarantine is really getting people together? Yeah. I mean, big time, I feel more connected in a way to a lot of people than I have in a long time. I've made new friends during quarantine. I've spoken to my family more than I have in a long time. And, you know, that aspect of it's been really lovely.

Can we talk about that a little bit? Like when we're on the road, we're so in our heads about our path. You know, like I know you work hard. We share the same age and you're a hard worker, Laura. Ball buster. Yeah, you fucking be a ball buster. You better fucking get what you need because you're that talented. Like so when we have to take a step back for quarantine and talk to our families again it feels like we're

we're starting to get to know them you know because we only get a couple minutes with them right yeah totally it was weird at the end of last year we worked the last few years have been intense in terms of touring you know we did like around 150 shows a year

for three years and By the end of last year, I was dying to reconnect with the Laura Lee that's not on stage. Who's that girl? Who's that girl? I'm getting to know her very well right now. She's pretty awesome, actually.

It's great. Tell me about her. She loves cooking um i've been into that i mean i'm just sort of i've always been like a jill of all trades master of none and um i've i've considered myself an artist much more than i consider myself a bass player and so like i I was always drawing and cooking and sort of doing a lot of artsy things, but not necessarily always musically inclined. And when the band kicked off, it sort of took over my creative channel. And so it's been nice doing the other stuff. So I've got my laptop and my base and my interface and then I've got my like drawing pencils and stuff in one corner and then I got the kitchen and it's

kind of been nice to rotate you know between um are you ADD yeah no you just like being creative in different things yeah and, and I definitely thrive off of a sense of accomplishment. Whatever that is, if it's organizing my closet, that's also fun for me. But I'm definitely active, even if I'm sedentary.

What are your sets for accomplishment for Krugman? What's your vision for a successful tour, successful show, successful Laura fucking Lisey? Talk to me. I mean, ultimately, it's having a good time.

Having a good time on stage. I think the best shows I have are when I can be present during the show. And it took me a long time to get there. I used to fret during the show and it took me a long time to get there like i used to fret during the show all the time about you know am i going to have a clothing malfunction or you go down this spiral and then once you realize that actually the joy is just thinking about how awesome your fingers feel

playing the bass and how you know how great you look and feel up there. Um, that's the success, you know? And, you know, yeah, we just recorded and now we finished our third album in January. And when we got out and we listened to it for the first time, we went outside, had a drink and like cried a little bit. Um, and we were like, that's the thing like getting to make that is the reward and that's the success and all that stuff and it's making those things together is it is it this uh is it the the seeing the idea and see and having it come true what makes you cry

or is it the i put all my energy into this thing and to see what I put out at the end of the day, that's what makes my heart fulfill? Yeah, I think it's the latter. Because the idea, you know, we don't, none of us in our project kind of set out with a specific intention when it comes to the music or whatever whatever sort of

like you go on the ride and you see what you know what comes out of it and this one in particular because of touring you know we did in chunks um which really worked to our favor so we did the bass guitar and drums in may um because we always start with just the instrumentals and then we had a few months away from it and i decided well i didn't decide the world decided i had a lot to say um and i there's a lot of words on this record and they came from my notepad um what are you talking about you know life love um memories a lot about memories um family things that matter you know as a band you know we want to write stuff that feels universal in general because we want it to be accessible to everyone. But also, because we all sing together, the words have to make sense coming out of all of our mouths.

So it's like we're not going to write about somebody's romantic partner because it wouldn't really make sense for all of us to sing. But we can sing about love as a concept. You know what I concept. Yeah. Are you burnt out? No, I was last year. What happened? For sure.

Um, we did a 10 week tour. Um, I've been nomadic is the other thing. I've been nomadic for about two years and it's been fun, but it's a lot and I think not feeling grounded and having a home space was like caught up to me and so the 10-week tour we did I didn't ever go back anywhere because it wasn't worth it I think we had a couple like two or three days off situations but I just stayed

wherever I was but I was pretty much on at least one flight a day. It was an international thing. We did like three continents, two of them multiple times. And, you know, you lose touch with reality in a way. It is reality, but it's a different kind of reality. It's like our reality. Like a handful of people understand it. So like when you go back to your friends and stuff,

like how hard is it to like explain this world tour and this, I don't know if you get lonely, but I'm the same way. I'm Bill Murray-ing it as well, where I don't go home. I stay in that town for three days until the next show is. Is that, so do you love that part of it or

does that make you more lonely i think it's both i mean i think from a headspace perspective like even when i have had a home base if we've played a show in that town i will not go home because i don't want to get out of touring. Once I'm on the tour, I need to just stay in the headspace of touring before I deal with coming out of it. I have sort of pre and post tour depression. Transitioning is hard. Yeah, it's the come down.

I mean, it's like any addict. It doesn't have to be drugs. It doesn't have to be, it could be really anything. For us, we're addicted to that sensation of living on the road. Because I feel like you're two different people, Laura. When you're on the road, you got your vibe. And when you're off the road, you got your vibe. Is that true?

Or am I just being crazy? No, no, no, 100%. But being crazy yeah no no 100 but it's like you know it's like your your gear your armor like whatever when you're on the road you kind of get geared up and you're like this is what this is what i'm doing and when you settle off the road it's like a different thing and i don't mind it i like having a separation of characters which is why i dress up when i get on stage sort of like i can leave that laura you know up there where do you feel most comfortable um good question in a hammock yeah me too i mean on the road i'm definitely most comfortable on stage now i wouldn't have said that at the beginning but i know on that the 10-week tour it was like

as long as i was on stage i was fine everything else melts melted away but do you suffer with anxiety i mean i think a lot of musicians do yeah um but i've been working on that and uh working on myself and actually after the tour i've been doing a lot of like meditation work and stuff which has been helping me a lot what what what does it help with so in the meditation practices um the awesome doctor i'm working with only works with touring musicians. So he's been a godsend to me. Hook me up. Yeah.

But he, so he's been teaching me sort of philosophy within meditation about why you meditate. Because I think for me, I didn't understand it so much. It's like, okay, cool. People that meditate are like more zen or whatever. But I didn't really, you know, I didn't really get the sort of philosophy behind it so the first point that i worked on like four weeks was being present it's like okay okay that seems obvious but actually if you're not living in the present then you're in one of four places you're either in the negative past which is suffering you're in the negative future which is also suffering uh or you're in the negative past, which is suffering. You're in the negative future, which is also suffering.

Or you're in the positive past, which is also suffering because you're not allowing where you are to be as good as that moment. Or you're in the positive future, which is suffering for the same reason. So it's sort of like, you know, and there's actually, it's so great. Whatever's happening right now is equally great to any other moment. So why not be there? So that was like the first thing I worked on. And now it's gotten sort of more infinite and meta and amazing. But it's like that thing, especially for a performer. So it's okay to kind of prep for stage before you go on, right?

So you're living in the future a little bit as you're prepping. And when you come off stage, it's okay to reflect and say, okay, I could have done that better or whatever. But while you're on stage, you should just be there. Be now. Yeah. And I think that's helped me a lot. With those first four days of him teaching you presence

and being in the moment, did you ever realize like, oh, fuck, I haven't been present a lot of the times, right? Oh, so much. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. So when you're sitting there meditating, you realize where you go. And so I started realizing, oh, I'm thinking about this thing that already happened or this thing I want to happen. It's like, oh, pulling myself back. this thing that already happened or this thing I want to happen.

It's like, oh, pulling myself back. And so the thing is, is if you use it as a training ground for your mind and you're sort of practicing those muscles, you create muscle memory, then it's easier for you to take that into your life, which is like seems so simple and obvious, but totally works. Yeah, it's crazy because because I had that same philosophy. I was always thinking about the next song because we never had a set list. And I'm not in present moment. And then I talked to someone about it and taking breaths and enjoying the moment.

Because we said we're most comfortable on stage. And if we can't be completely comfortable with who we are on stage, then what's the point? You know? So like, are you ready to like get back on stage and fucking just like have this like present fucking mindset? Like I'm going to fuck shit up tonight. You know? Kind of. So this is the thing is that I started doing this practice like at the

end of last year and our shows are supposed to start. We're supposed to leave like next week. And I was like, oh man, when I go back on the road, I mean, I am going to be a whole new, you know, woman. I'm going to be up there thriving on stage. Fucking bad bitch. Yeah. And obviously I don't know when I'm going to be on stage again. So it's like, you know, but still a useful practice.

All good. Right now we're like, we're re we're rewatching tapes. Like we're, we're trying to figure out the perfect. So when we come back there, we come back there with full force, full emotion. Cause like, I feel like this quarantine taught me like the stuff, like we said, you're burnt out. I was burnt out. I live on the road. I mean, I'm Roman girl. I don't like, when I come back home, I get through those dip days. And you know, like that, oh God, what am I going to do? What am I going to do?

My serotonin level's all fucked up because I just kept going on this high for two weeks or a month. So when you get back into the mode, when you get back into just being you, we're trying not to take for granted because we get burnt out but when we take a step back we realize hey this is actually beautiful we're on stage we're entertaining like how long did it take you to miss the road again not long isn't that crazy like we want this break

so bad and then once we have it like what the fuck? I mean, that's, that's really been my feeling about it. We're supposed to start next week and I was feeling like it was too soon. You know, we recorded all of January. We have various studios projects, studio project in the middle. And then,

you know, just because you record the music for an album, the album is done. There's all sorts of other aspects of the album. So I was feeling like it was too soon. And then as soon as the quarantine started i think a week in i was watching crumbin live shows just to sort of see what you could do better not even just like watching fans and like just watching what a good time we had and it's so such a beautiful thing. And we're so lucky as like artists in general,

that just because we're not getting, there's still work. Like the work is infinite. You can work on so many facets of what you do. You know, you can write new songs. You can perfect your stagecraft. You can work on your technical skills or whatever. There's so

many things to do. So it's sort of like I don't have that nine to five job where when I don't have it, my inclination is just to watch TV. I don't have that thing. Do you need structure in your life? Yes. What kind? I sort of created

a summer camp for myself during quarantine. tell me about it hold on I got sound effects so um I set up where I like wake up early and go for a walk on the beach so I'm in Miami so you can't actually go on the beach there's a little pathway in front you're in you're in Florida right now you're in Florida right now? in Florida right now so I do that and then I kind of I have some Zoom meetings and stuff throughout the week

but I have like various activities set out so like bass technical work because I never have time to actually work on that stuff and then I have like free play so I can just do whatever i will just like you know put on a you know drum loop and see what happens this is legit summer camp laura summer

camp okay what else you got what else you got on your day um so i've been working my way through this cookbook so i've been picking like three or four recipes a week and i'll you know do that it takes a while to do like a proper meal. You know what I mean? So how, okay. So what's your process? Like, what do you pick in? Like, are you pick, are you vegetarian?

Do you eat meat? No. So you rock. I'm definitely not a vegetarian. You rock that shit. Okay, cool. It's an Israeli cookbook. Well, she's from Israel, but the, but the food's very mixed.

Are you Jewish? No, I'm not. Do you like Mediterranean? I love Jews. Shout out. Okay, cool. I'm Jewish, FYI. If you didn't know about Afro. What do you like about Mediterranean food to cook?

For me, it was just a new thing to get involved in. During this thing, I read about this chef, and she has a bunch of restaurants in New York. But she moved to Israel, I think, when she was a teenager and got into the food scene. So I'm just working my way through it. And yeah, I have time to make bread.

That's fucking awesome. Do you think creating food and creating a meal is kind of like creating a set list? I think cooking and music, like gigging and being a chef is very similar. You work late nights while you have a recipe for a song or a dish never comes out the same every time you play it or make it um i think like chefs are rock stars i think it's a very similar thing lifestyle it's i agree man because like i you know i used to live in new york and seeing all the how they treated all these killer chefs and stuff and how they did the tasting parties and it'd be sold out right away.

I'm like, damn, this is kind of like going pre-sale at a fucking Frasco or Crumbin show. So it's like, I fuck with that. I thought of you as living in New York, but you always wear Lakers gear. Yeah, I'm from LA. I live in Denver now. I'm very sincere.

I'm ADD. I'm ADD, Laura. I need to keep moving. That's one thing about this quarantine. I built myself a summer camp too. I'm editing videos. Shout out to you for being in one of them. Thank you so much.

Can we talk about... You have a barn you're recording? What's this all about? We have a barn. Mark's family has a farm. They got it when he was a little kid and they used to be tractors on it which the barn housed but now there are cows so there's no need for tractors so the barn was just a it's a shell it's not a studio barn it is a barn um i think most people think it's this like kitted out thing. It's really bare bones barn.

Where is it? What area? East coast? No, it's in Texas. It's halfway between Houston and Austin. Oh, killer. In the hill country. Beautiful.

We basically started using it as our rehearsal studio because it was free and we were broke. Were you living in Austin? I was. I'm from Houston. We're all cool all right cool um so it was close enough to go on the weekends and go like make songs out there and then when it came time to record we were thinking we would rent some amazing studio space or whatever and then like why don't we just do it in the barn and now we can't not do it in the barn and there's it's a thing it's like there are bees there's rodents it's like a whole situation out there we've recorded in the freezing cold and then we had to get a big heat industrial heater but then every time we turn it on our strings would go out of tune it's like you know it's a thing how point

how important is uh comfortability in the studio you mean in terms of being cold no just like in terms of like feeling comfortable like because now i mean you're at a point in your career where you could go to any fucking studio you could go to anything you want to do but like you're to build the best music you think your band you know from the soul is i feel like it's like having that cup of coffee with mom, you know, it's like you got, so what's, how important is that barn to you now? I mean, it's essential. Um, so there's a house that we stay in on the property and then we record in the barn and there's no wifi out there. It's really beautiful. You're not in the cityscape and i think for the type of music we make

it's really essential um you know and not so much in our recent album that will come out at some point um but in the other ones you know people always comment on the spaciousness of our music and part of it is because there are so many sounds happening outside, like bees and birds and stuff that you don't really want to write over them. So I think that contributes a lot to what we make. Did you ever think you were going to be a bass player growing up? Definitely not. I'm so excited about it, though. Because you're fucking, girl!

Yeah, I could be six and see myself now. I'm like, yes, like you score. What did you want to be when you were six? I wanted to be a writer. What kind of writer? Like I wanted to write stories and I think I'm doing that. I mean, A, but I remember at some point growing up, realizing that if you wanted to have stories to write about,

you had to go make them if you wanted to have stories to write about you had to go make them and you had to go live and it's led me on this crazy you know life path but i'm so happy and i totally have you know a shitload of stories so that philosophy you have to live to write is totally spot on right i think so i mean you can dream up stuff but it's like when you actually dream at night you're pulling from your memory to make those dreams so i still think as a writer you do have to go you know experience things and i moved to this little town from houston called port or andes it's my first time i moved away from home my parents thought i was insane they're like how old were you i was like 22 23 i finished school and moved to a town like 3 000 people my parents were like

what are you doing they called it a drinking town or the fishing problem um but but you know it was like it was something that I had never experienced. I had never walked on the ocean at 9am, asked a fisherman if he caught anything. And he told me he caught a sweet buzz, you know, like that. Those were the little things I got from living out there. Just like simple stuff. Um, and I, we wrote the first LVP out there. It is halftime at the Andy Fresco interview hour. Now a message from the UN.

Just about a month ago, I can still remember how music used to make me smile. The music used to make me smile. And if I knew it was my last chance. To make all the people dance. Maybe we could just party for a while. But then March made me shiver. With every headline the news news delivered COVID on the doorstep I couldn't take one more step I can't remember if I cried when I read about

the toilet paper supplies warning of a dry cough deep inside. The day the handshake died. I'm singing bye-bye to all those hugs and high-fives. Draw my Chevy to get groceries and avoid all the lines. Liquor stores still sell me whiskey and rye. Man, my hands are off. I'm washing all the time. Hands are off. I'm washing all the time.

And I said cry, cry until the fans can play live. Our paychecks have diminished But our live streams are fine Wearing masks when we shop And overused Clorox wipes Man, my hands are off from washing all the time

Hands are off from washing all the time Fuck All the time. How old were you when you first officially lived, you feel? Good question. I feel like I was really getting into it in my mid-20s. What were you doing? I moved to London. So tell me about that.

Like what fucking American girl in London? I mean, I did that, but I did it in Amsterdam or Utrecht, like the suburb. Utrecht, yeah. I love Utrecht. It's beautiful. So tell me about London. Why did you move there? Why did you decide London? It's great.

Yeah? I knew people there. My best friends are there. I think being completely taken out of everything I knew, not having much money, not knowing anything really, makes you live because you kind of have to figure everything out.

I mean, I highly recommend putting yourself in difficult situations because I am that person. Yeah. What's the most difficult situation you've had to deal with? Like being in London, do you ever get mugged or anything? I did actually. What happened? There are these kids there's these kids, they do this in pairs on bikes, but like one of them will kind of hit you and then you get started.

And then the other person comes and takes whatever off you. So in this case, it was my phone. So he hit me in the side and then I kind of was like, what the whatever? And then raise up my hands. The other guy swiped my phone. Oh my God. It's like, what the whatever? And then raised up my hands. The other guy swiped my phone. Oh, my God.

It's like it's fun. Texas girl. That's what I'm talking about. Take it with optimism. But thank God they didn't pull a knife out or none of that. They just took your phone and bailed. Totally. Yeah.

That's good. You got to get a new phone, which I didn't have a cash for at the time, but, you know, you figure it out. But yeah, I think being in London, meeting new friends and also getting to kind of be whoever you wanted to be. That's what I always liked about moving around is you don't have people with these ideas of who you are, who you have been, and you're allowed to be whatever iteration of yourself that you are and i learned a lot about music in that time i was going dancing a lot i fell in love with festivals in england british festivals are so amazing they're still my favorite aren't they the blast you ever go to um do you like like musical theater or anything like that or like art like you ever been to edinburgh for the fringe festival, like around here? Oh dude. It's just great. There's so many pockets. I know. It's amazing.

Yeah. Just within festival land. There's so many. It's so great. What'd you learn about living as like you, cause you know, when we, when we live in America, we don't, we're so isolated that we have our own idea of how to live. What, we don't we're so isolated that we have our own idea of how to live what what did you learn from european and like uk living that you brought back when you came back to america sunday roasts not that i'm having one right now um we're a really amazing tradition of you know i remember being invited to one it's like okay so you just go and eat lunch, but you don't. It's like a seven-hour situation.

It's a lot of wine, and you eat slowly, and you enjoy the time a lot more. I think Americans are rushier. So you meet somebody for lunch, it's an hour. And when I moved to LA from London, it went from getting a pint to getting a green juice, which I was not super fan of when it happened. Okay. So you've moved from London, you moved straight to LA. I have so many questions.

First, before we talk about LA years, the la-la land of Laura Lisey, I want to talk about the writing years. Okay. Like when you wrote, what was your first story that you felt like this feels like home? So you mean like writing, like writing, like when you want to be a writer? Yeah.

It's a good question. I mean, I wrote a lot about my life and I think most of my stuff is autobiographical. But I had a really, I had a tricky time growing up um just with you know i don't want to get too heavy but i i had i had a difficult time you know with regards to like my family situation growing up and i had to grow up fast in a way when i was young and I wanted to get out of what was home for me at the time. So I graduated high school super early.

I worked really hard and I started college when I was 16, which was a terrible decision. I just wanted to get out. So I moved out straight away. And I thought that as soon as I was out on my own, that everything would be fine, which is really not the case and I got in all kinds of trouble but it was good I don't regret any of it

and I loved it I was a bad kid I was a rebellious kid like what were you doing that was rebellious drinking drugs or just partying sex drugs and rock and roll like fucking Laura Lisi. No, that's cool though.

I feel like everyone needs that. I was doing that too. I wanted to get out of college. I grew up a little too fast, and I just wanted this life of just being Hunter S. Thompson and this idea of just living on the road and Jack Kerouac and stuff. Were those the ideas of Laura Lisi and like this idea of just living on the road and chat Kerouac and stuff. Did you,

were those the ideas of Laura Leezy when you're 15? Like I got to get out of this house. Like was, was the house toxic? Was Houston toxic for you? Like, not like in a way of like, you don't tell me personal stuff,

but like, was it toxic to the person you wanted to be? Totally. Yeah. And honestly, talks it to the person you wanted to be totally yeah and honestly i find that a lot of creatives have a hard time in houston because unless like visual arts there's a lot of support but i think for musicians there's just not a lot of infrastructure there so i think it can feel suffocating being there but yeah i was like I wanted to get away from my childhood for one. And I wanted

to get away from anything that was sort of a part of it. I didn't want to see people that saw me during that time and have that image of who I was in my head. I wanted to reinvent myself. And I think Lizzie is an invention. So Lizzie is an invention. This is a character. is an invention, you know? So Lizzie's an invention. This is a character. She's a character. Yeah.

Yeah. I love her. I mean, she's me, 100%. But she's definitely, like, you know, she's her own thing. She's a handful. Yeah. When did Lizzie start coming into the mix? Lizzie came into the mix when we had our first show. Lazy came in the mix when we had our first show

we started the band and ended up actually getting a really good first gig opening up for our friend Robert Ellis in Houston for his record release I love him dude he made that Top of Chico song

I love that fucking song I want our Top of Chico sponsorship so bad Top of Chico get our man a fucking sponsorship let's go topo chico thank you uh i got you uh yeah so he was he had us open up for his record release and um i wanted i didn't know if i was ever gonna have another crumbin show like you don't know when you play for the first time in your first band that you've ever started, if it's going to carry on.

So I was treating it like a wedding almost. Like I wanted to have my outfit, like the whole thing. And I got my makeup done. It was like, it was the day. And then it was like, well, this is going to happen every time. And I made the statement the very first time we played that I would never wear the same thing twice on stage, which, you know, I've held up, I will say.

You're a bad bitch like that. I like that. But it's a thing. It's a work. It's a whole job. I feel like that's half taking care of lazy i feel like that's half the work yeah right well it's like you know something i know i've made me uh really happy the end of last tour dj kind of came out to me and he's like you know what you carry the cases with us you travel all around the world you get yourself beat up, and you go up there, and you put your makeup on, and you get your nails done, and you do all that work too. Yes, I do.

I'm the most hardcore out of all of you. You're like a superhero, dog. Because how many bags do you bring on tour? If you have all these outfits, what the fuck? So if we're in America, and we can actually have a wardrobe case life is much easier but when we're going to europe i mean i've got it's a nightmare yeah like explain the process of getting all these amazing outfits to like peru and fucking

brazil and shit like what's going on? I met this girl in London at a party in a bathroom taking selfies. I can't believe that's how it happened, but I met this girl, Megan. She's become my stylist. There's different kinds of stylists. She doesn't put my outfits

together. She just sends me a box of stuff. Then I have to go through it. So if I'm really organized, which usually doesn't happen, but if I am, I try them all on before tour and I take pictures of them in the mirror. all my outfits look like and then i put them in giant ziploc bags each outfit labeled so that before show i can be like hey this venue looks like this outfit and then i steam that outfit hold on break it you blow on my you know what outfit for each venue well i kind of know i go in the venue and i get a vibe and it's like okay this feels like this outfit oh my god you're bad you are bad nice okay so well tell me have you ever had any malfunctions uh fashion malfunctions via show titty pop out or something nothing like crazy i've i've definitely had that but not i don't think anyone really knew it's like i always

catch it before it happens but i will stay on the pitchfork live show of us what happened the whole show i thought i popped out and i was so nervous this is still pretty early days when we did that i was so nervous the whole time but from my view when i look down i was like oh i'm out but this is live and i can't fix it so i just have to keep going and then everybody claps when we finish and then i saw the footage i was like oh my god it's fine it was like totally fine nobody knows when they watch that thing that i was freaking out the whole time about thinking i was too exposed you got a titty yeah oh my god that's so crazy yeah i would i mean like i just think of like lenny kravitz like he was trying to do some splits and some leather and like the

leather pants just popped down just fucking lenny dong it just it's just chilling like damn and lisa got all these new outfits on like Like, God forbid I think about that. Like, I don't want anyone like, that's crazy. Okay. But I have, so I write a memory a day. There's like an app called Little Memory. And you just write whatever you want. And so I get memories from like six months ago, a year ago, three years ago.

And I had one come up from three years ago where it said that I was playing and my hoop got stuck on my necklace. And I remember playing the whole song where it was like my, my face was attached to my shoulder. That's made it through. You're a badass. Did you ever think Krogman was going to get this big? You know,

people ask me that all the time and obviously no, but then at the same time of course yes of course right of course i wouldn't have put all the effort in that i did if i didn't think something could come out of it and i always believed in it i'm lucky like mark and dj are two of the most talented people i've ever met and when i decided i wanted to be in a band I selected wisely yeah and you know I'm definitely the engine in terms of like going out and meeting people and putting the music in people's hands but I couldn't do it without the two of their geniuses yeah and and I always believed in them enough to

want to push it as far as I did. And yeah, it's like I like good music. I listen to been listening to music my whole life intentionally. And when we first started making it, I was like, this is great. I like listening to

crumbin. I mean, we better like listening to ourselves cause we have to play each other for every fucking day of our lives. Like I couldn't, I could, I like, I think about the, like the pop bands who are just don't like their music,

but like got a big hit and like, they have to just gig it and gig it. And like, you feel like you're, you're portraying something that you don't want to portray as an artist. have you ever had that moment in your life thank god no good um yeah i mean i think as people in general but as artists all you have is your integrity like that's it at the end at the end of everything it's what you made it's your legacy and if you're doing this this whole time not liking what you're doing i mean that's just insanity would you quit if you didn't like what you're doing yes good all

right good yeah so you have 100 so you don't have like force to do something you don't want to do or you could always be you and walk out anytime you want and because totally as an artist and i think certainly you know even a year ago but like you know people are telling you what to do you have all kinds of people your agents your label your bandmates your friends your parents or whatever telling you what to do. And it's hard to shut them out and hard to kind of dig deep. But luckily, as a band, we're good about checking in and making sure we're doing the right thing. Have you ever almost quit? The band? No way.

No? Or what about quit a tour, got burnt out, so burnt out? Any craziness like that? Never? No. I mean, I was tired last year. I'm very vocal about it. And it was bad. Very vocal to who? Your band? The band. Yeah. The thing is, I'm the one with the most energy. I'll be the last man standing in most situations, especially in our tour camp. So when I said I was tired, everyone was like, if you're tired, how do you think we are? And then once you say it out loud, it's out there. And it's almost better to not say it.

Is it hard to communicate with people you uh create with not anymore in the beginning when we definitely in the beginning yeah i mean i think that's what is unique about bands versus singular artists and even singular like singular artists who have a touring band it's still under the direction of one person. Whereas a band band, you have to all come to an agreement. And luckily we have three. So there's always like a tiebreaker. But yeah, you know,

you have to agree on your products in all ways. You know, that's like what the tour is like. It's what the songs sound like. It's what the visual aspect of the band is, you know, that's like what the tour is like. It's what the songs sound like. It's what the visual aspect of the band is, you know, or you come to an agreement that one person is going to take it over. Is vulnerability hard for you outside of anything that you're creating artistically? No, I don't think so.

So you could talk to your mom about anything you talk about or is that stuff hard? I have, I have some friends I'd say that I can talk to any, any about anything. So you have a base, you have a core that like when you're feeling low, you could go to that core of what family,

friends, whatever agent, whatever. And you got, you got it. Okay. That's good. And I actually saw them right before the quarantine.

I can't believe how lucky I was. I wanted to go see them before tour started. I just made time for my girlfriend. So I went to London and Bristol and had some quality girl time. And literally that's like the last flight I will have taken. That's great. Well, you know, the universe has your back, you know, it's like, you know, we don't want to say that this quarantine is like good for us but for musicians who are who are always on the go and always are

just like non-stop it's kind of good for us right yeah I mean I'm like I'm lucky one you know I I have a roof over my head I'm not sick or if I am i can't tell and i have enough you know money to feed me for the year i'm like i'm okay if i don't gig this year i'll be fine yeah but um so i think if you're a lucky person like that then you kind of just have to be like okay cool well what's the most i can make of the situation it's, in the same way that you're saying I could be a kid looking at myself on stage being like, you are a bad, you know, MF. I want to say the same thing about myself right now.

And that's kind of what I'm trying to take this opportunity to do. Like, how can I look back on, yeah. How can I look back on this, however long this ends up being, and say, I would do that again? What is the most important thing you learned from this quarantine about yourself? Just appreciating simplicity. it's sort of like i love that the human ambition and aspiration has led me to see the world and make these really big things happen you know it's such a such an amazing thing but also appreciating

just the space around me because that's all i've got and it's sort of like that's kind of the big thing i'm getting out of it. This is so not my life, what's happening right now. This is so not the last four years of my life. It's the complete opposite of it. And so you kind of just have to surrender to it. I'm like, cool. It's not to say that I haven't had a couple of days

where I'm feeling frustrated like anybody. But- What do you do when you have those frustrating moments? What do you do, like anybody, but what do you do when you have those frustration, frustrating moments? What do you do? Take a walk or what do you do? If I can walk, I will walk. I mean, walking is my hero for sure. Um, on tour too. I always take, take a walk a day. Yeah. Do you feel like you get lonely sometimes? On tour? No, no. Oh, just in this like this yeah you know what that's actually not a feeling i've had at all great um nobody's asked me that until now and no i haven't

felt lonely which is great i do feel lonely on tour sometimes yeah but i don't feel lonely on tour in hotels yeah not not on the bus ever it's like in a hotel room and it kind of doesn't matter if it's nice or not preferably it's nice you know but even if it's not it's like the i don't know like the ac like we're just seeing like the same stuff in the hotel room that you see. Is it hard for you to sleep in hotels? Yeah. I mean, I bring a face mask. I have a whole, I always have a silk kimono. You got a silk kimono? That's tight as shit.

Really? You rock that shit? Oh, that's so tight. Yeah, I always. You are a rock star. Even before touring, like when I would go to festivals, I would always bring a kimono. Because you just never know when you want to feel like lush.

So is that important to make touring feel like home when you're in your hotel and stuff? Is that a big thing for you? Yeah. I have little things i bring my granddad's ring and my grandma's ring a few photos little stuff like you know people have given me sometimes even stuff that fans have given me just to have like a little human thing with me yeah it's beautiful all right a couple more questions i'll let you go. By the way, thank you, Laura. You're the best. I'm so glad we became friends. I met you at JM Cruise and I really look up to you and your work ethic. John tells me how much you work and how hard you work. And I just think I'm rooting for you, girl. So nice work with everything you do.

Thank you. I want to do me proud. I want to do everyone proud. And I feel really privileged to be in a band that it feels like people are rooting for. Explain what proud is to you. Like looking back and feeling good about what that thing is. When I was a little kid, I thought I used to have the, what do they call the little kid encyclopedias? World books. Yeah. I had the world book collection and I would read through it and I would see people in there and be like, man, if you're in the world book, you got to be good. You know what I mean? And so my goal was to do something encyclopedia worthy. And Wikipedia is that now. Well, I hate to break it to you but you really are doing something encyclopedia worthy it's true i mean like i mean you're i mean i don't i don't know

how the six how you got successful but like i know it took a couple years before right since when you made that record how long did it take until that record popped uh it's yeah i would say two years is a good measure but before that i mean we've been a band for 10 years and we can wear four what'd you say gigging where like where were you gigging for 10 years like or were you just making music we weren't we weren't gigging you know we we started the band in houston and we all lived there we did a few gigs but i didn't want to just be like a band that played at i don't know breweries in houston or something i wanted if i was going to be in a band i wanted to do the thing and i was lucky that i've been playing bass for six months and I got my first tour Mark got me a tour

playing with this awesome band Yipa, opening up for Bonobo it was a huge tour, we played is it Ogden? Ogden Theater so we played that, it was like that size room sick, first tour ever first tour, I've been playing six months

it wasn't my band and it was after that tour i was like i want to be in a band this is this is it no was lazy invented yet it was no no no no i was like mark you want to be in a band with me yeah cool great and then we needed a drummer i asked dj if you want to be in a band with me and so i was like but i wanted that experience i wanted to open up for somebody on a tour i wanted to have some way in and eventually it happened so we played bbc four um years ago and father john misty also played that day and he heard us play asked me for a record it was this horrible moment so we had like 50 record sleeves no records inside of them just sleeves in our dressing room because we were signing them for the label and father tom misty saw the stack of records came up to us like hey

can i like picked up this wad of cash from his pocket that was like all different European parents can I buy can I buy a record off you no he's like I just saw your dressing room you have so many records I'm so sorry they're sleeves this is horrible like weird moment he's like okay cool never gonna see him again and then um I went online and found who his manager was got in contact with his manager and I was like hey this happened can i please send him record i remember mark and dj were like god you're so your mom right now but you know what like a month later he called he's like will you guys open up for me on the road was father john popping then yeah this was um his second album this was the honeybear record what type of rooms were you doing with him? We did three nights at the Roundhouse.

Like big, big, there was a Europe tour. So our first tour was with him, Kroonventor. And yeah, I was like, that was what I was pushing for when we were in Houston. I was like, we're not going to do this. We're going to get on something. And that was the first thing we got on. Amazing. So do you think by saying this is how I want my dreams to be fulfilled

and putting the intuition into it, do you think that's how it came? To some degree. There's luck, obviously, in things. But there is also intention. And I wouldn't have been satisfied you know doing those kind of gigs yeah that that we were doing in houston and that's okay it's like that's like that's somebody else's dream yeah that's that that's their thing it just wasn't mine that's awesome man oh laura thank you so much for being on the show this

is so amazing we gotta we gotta be friends man I'm gonna FaceTime you And see if you answer sometime I feel like we've become friends during the quarantine I feel like that's true Cause like yeah I'm like John's our Jerry Maguire dog That's what I'm saying

Shout out to Bongiorno He's so great One last thing what do you want to be remembered by? Like, what do you mean? Just in general, as a person, what do you want to be remembered by when they put your name in the kids' encyclopedia? I just want to be known for somebody who had a lot of heart. Yeah? Work ethic? Yeah.

I mean, I think my heart is what pushes me to work hard. Yeah, I mean, I think my heart is what pushes me to work hard. It's like, ultimately, I'm grafting because I have a lot of heart for the thing I create and the people that I created with and the people that we're playing for. You know, ultimately, it's love, you know. We'll give yourself a pat on the back. Very good. Way to go. I'm becoming a professional right now. But thank you so much, Laura.

So have fun on the quarantine. Write that book. Doesn't have to be now. Could be when you're 70, 80. But I'm going to be your friend until you're 80 years old. And you better write that book. I'm going to keep pushing you. Hey, how's that book coming?

Okay? Okay. Sounds good. All right. Thanks, Hey, how's that book coming? Okay? Okay. Sounds good. All right. Thanks, Laura, for being on the show. And enjoy. Let me know. Take pictures of the next Israeli food you rock because I'm curious.

Oh, I'll send you some now. Let's be buddies. Okay. Bye, Laura. Good seeing you. Later. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Dolav Sportscast.

He's talking shit about the game. He's got a weird fucking name. It's Sports with Dolav. This week, we're going to be talking some fucking quarantine. What the fuck? No sport. No basketball. What the fuck? That's okay. You fucking got this. You can play sports with your friends. Virtually. I fucking drove 15 hours to play some sports with my friend, Frasco.

And you guys will also be on the podcast. I'm not going to let you see your friends during quarantine. And fuck you, Frasco. I fucking kicked your ass in some NBA 2K. I fucking kicked your ass in shotgunning beers. I fucking kicked your ass in washing your fucking hands. I fucking kicked your ass in brushing your fucking teeth we all know Brassica can't brush his teeth

I beat you in cartoons I beat you in who can read faster and better let's go fuck you Andy this quarantine will not defeat us guys we fucking got this alright thank you Laura

wow that was an interview she's the shit I got a mouth thing in my thing Fucking got this. Woo-hoo! All right. Thank you, Laura. Wow, that was an interview. She's the shit. Wow, I got a mouth thing in my thing. I got a mouth drop in my head. Hey! We got Dolav on the show. What's up, everybody?

How you doing, Dolav? Doing well, man. This motherfucker came here from Los Angeles to save my ass. He's like, I don't know. How did it start? I was high on mushrooms. I called you after our first shit show. Yeah.

And we just talked for like a few hours. And at a certain point, you seemed a little lonely. And I've been, you know, just at my house, not doing shit. I mean, working, but, you know, kind of alone, not with friends. And yeah, I just decided you convinced me to come out here. You should come to Denver. We'll quarantine together. I asked my family and they're like, dude, go.

You know, I asked Tony and he's like, I don't know. Tony's like, don't go to Frasco's house. He's definitely got Rona. But I said, fuck it. Drove up 15 hours. Here we are now, nine days in, drinking claws. Claws, staying quarantined. Staying quarantined. Dola's been checking my temperature.

Every day. Two times a day. Twice a day, every morning, every night, making sure we're all right. Dola's been cooking for me while I'm working my ass off. Full-time chef over here. Yeah, I've been editing these videos. I've been fucking doing the shit show you know the shout out to you dog thanks for because i wouldn't eat i'll just work that's how i am i just work and

work and work yeah man it's been nice it's been awesome i've been working all week too and friday was my last day of work so fucking sterling fired me fuck you sterling fuck you sterling um but yeah you got fired um yeah so I decided to stick around longer. You like in Denver? Yeah, it's fucking beautiful. The weather's been nice. We went on a hike today. Went on a hike.

Unbelievable. Wear masks, people. Don't worry. We're keeping conscious. Masks, gloves. We're staying safe. Brought a whole bunch of gloves for me, some fucking masks. He's like, what the fuck?

He taught me how to do dishes. I thought I thought i was doing dishes right no no you gotta rent some first bro he's learning i'm teaching him how to be a real adult thank you i appreciate it i brought toilet paper with me some paper towels all the essentials i brought mushrooms you brought mushrooms the occasion we did a seder you did a fucking three hour satyr it was insane which was awesome it was fun we did it all did it right did all the songs yeah and some so how do you think this corn do you think am i a good quarantine partner you know you're not bad man you're uh you've definitely gotten better as an adult as a person you've known me forever so i have so what was I like and what am I am now?

What was I like? Was I just dirty? Dirty as fuck. Still not the cleanest guy. But hey, look, I mean, you know, those feet have never been cleaner, I think, in the last like 15 years. Because you're just walking around barefoot your house, not like fucking festival shit. Just dirty hippie style. Was I dirty when I was in high school and shit?

I mean, yeah. A little bit, yeah. I would sleep in my car. I would have sex in my car and then just sleep over at her house. The Pathfinder. The Pathfinder. I couldn't. That thing was dirty as fuck.

That car was dirty as shit. My mom wouldn't let me have girls over. So Dolav's house was always the fucking party house where we could hook up with chicks and stuff. Yeah. So shout out to the Cohen family for letting kids run rampant like fucking Lord of the Flies up in this bitch.

Dude, we were wild. We had all the snacks too. My mom had them in the garage. Just ultimate snack fucking on my sisters and shit. You were had them in the garage. Just ultimate snack. All my sisters and shit. You were fucking wild in high school. I was. I chilled out.

Yeah, you chilled out. Middle school, high school, I was fucking nuts. I mean, I still get crazy. No, you get crazy. You get the crazy. I don't know if I told this story on the podcast yet, but we were in Arkansas. So Dolops used to sell merch for us.

I was a tour manager. And he TM'd and just helped me out at the beginning yeah and he would sell merch and if no one bought merch in the town he would with that he would interrupt the shows like shut and run up he's like don't be the fucking cheapest town on this tour arkansas or kansas or wherever we were we were in germany we were in germany the first time i kind of really wet nuts on or wherever we were. We were in Germany. We were in Germany. The first time I kind of really wet nuts on them. We were in Hanover during like a festival. And like, you know, people don't buy shit at like festivals.

Not like that. But I wanted to sell some fucking merch and just went off on them. Don't be the fucking cheapest town. Buy some fucking merch. Support these guys. Oh, my God. They're probably scared of you like Americans trying to sell me something again. What have you learned from this quarantine, Dolav?

Honestly, I've learned that, you know, I think people don't give themselves enough credit. Like, we got some good people out there, you know, everyone trying to step up and, you know, whether it's like health care workers or people who work at Taco Bell, like everyone is fully committed to helping out, you know, staying at home. Like that's a commitment that everyone needs to do. And, you know, I'm learning that people are stronger than they think they are. Yeah, it's true. Me too. I agree. Because I think about the people who are fucking just lonely, who just don't have any friends.

They move to a town, stuck in their apartment, just living with their thoughts. I feel for those people too. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people who, you know, you talk about mental health a lot on this podcast and just in general. And people are going to need help more than ever after this thing. I mean, during this thing

to make it through. So it's important to call your family, call your friends if you don't have any. Reach out to someone like Frasco on Instagram. Call that old booty call that you haven't hooked up with in a while. Just check up. Say, what's up, baby girl? How you doing?

I ain't trying to smash right now. I just want to let you know how i'm feeling how's your psyche you know get get used to talking to people you have never talked to in a long time or like maybe mend a relationship with your cousin that you fucking he's an asshole or something you're like no fuck it let's talk this out we got all night talk is out maybe maybe that make that the friday no i want to i still try to black out Fridays. Fridays, Saturdays, I try to fucking party. You work all week. I work all week.

You're still working. Hopefully, you're keeping yourselves a schedule, whether you're working or not. Try and keep something consistent. I haven't been getting too fucking wasted, have I? Besides the shit shows I get fucking hammered. Everyone does with you, though. We're at home having a blast.

Brian's like, you got to stop taking drugs on the fucking live stream. The drugs on stage is, you know, those are pennies. Now 50,000 people are watching you take drugs on live stream. So shout out to everyone who hasn't called the cops on me or burned my stream. I've almost gotten in trouble a few times playing people's – I almost got kicked off for doing that Kenny G solo. Universal's like, what the fuck are you doing? He's not in your band.

But shout out to Universal for not suing me. I don't have any money. But yeah, podcast, we're having fun. We got a great – I figured out the whole live stream thing. I figured out how to record. So I'm going to get a lot of dope interviews where people are just stuck at home and we're going to keep this podcast going.

We're going to do the shit show every Thursday. So you get Frasco podcast Tuesday and Thursdays. We'll fucking throw a shit show. We'll throw a party. Dolan's going to be here for a few more, right? Fucking rage. We're going to fucking rage. Dude, next week or this Thursday,

we have Jay Mascus, Dave Schools, and Kyle Ayers. And then we're doing a special 420. 420. G-Pen sponsored us. Fuck yeah. We got some money for G-Pen.

Oh, no. I don't want to laugh at that. Yeah, G-Pen. Yeah. Thank you so much. Uncle Jordy. Uncle Jordy gave us some money. Yeah.

So we're going to throw a pot. Strictly pot. Pot luck, us some money. Yeah. So we're going to throw a pot. Strictly pothead. Potluck, dude. Potluck. Yeah, we're going to do this. Passover potluck. The Passover potluck with Frasco and friends. We've got some great guests.

Great potheads. Real legendary potheads. I'll just say that. We'll keep it a secret. But come out. Thanks, guys, so much for coming out. Dolav, thanks for coming to Denver. Yeah, fuck yeah, man.

I appreciate it. It's been a blast. And now that I don't have a job, I might stick around forever. Fuck, you could be much for coming out. Dolav, thanks for coming to Denver. Yeah, fuck yeah, man. I appreciate it. It's been a blast. And now that I don't have a job, I might stick around forever. Fuck, you could be my co-host, dog. Forever. Oh, fuck. Ever. Oh, no, I'm kicking you out.

Sorry, Dolav. You got a wrong number. Who's this? Oh, God. But any last remarks you want to say? Any blessings for any of the people out there who are suffering from COVID? The Rona. Shout out to you guys. Stay strong. You got this.

You're bad bitches. You're bad dicks. You guys got strong. We're going to fuck this Rona, right? We're going to kick its fucking ass. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Be careful. Be safe. Wear condoms. I'm telling you, man. We're not going to know for another couple weeks,

but there are some babies about to be born. Babies are brewing. Babies are brewing, dude. People are coming. Loads have come. Spring bloom, baby. So be careful. If you can't afford a baby, I know we're about to have a recession, so think about that when you're blowing loads or receiving loads or whatever you do, just be cautious.

We're about to have baby boomers. We're pissed off about the boomers. All the young kids are calling them boomers. Well, guess what? Your future kids might be the future boomers if we be cautious about having children right now during a recession. All right. Love you guys. Be safe.

I'll catch you next week. I'll tell you... We're going to keep it surprise because this is quarantine. We don't want to plan anything. Surprises, surprises, surprises. Dolav, kick us off with something nice, sweet. Arno, thank you so much. Give us some of that European pessimism.

West side! West side! Love you guys. Be safe. You tuned in to the third season of Hearty Head to Head, Daniel Fresco's world-saving podcast. Thank you for listening to episode 18, produced by Daniel Fresco, Joe Angel,

Owen Chris, Lawrence. Please subscribe or rate the show on iTunes or Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon. For info on the show, please head to our Instagram at world's haven podcast. For more info on the blog on tour dates, head to andyfresco.com. Ten days from here, Andy's new album Keep On Keepin' On will be out. Or should you have tuned in after April 24th? Well, it is out.

This week's guest is Laura Lee from Kroonbin. I will spell it for you so you can google it yourself. L-A-U-R-A L-E-E. Laura Lee. This week's co-host is our clapper, the band's hyper, our freaky fluffer, the best barker and the guy that found job

in Fanboy. Dolph Cohen. This week's special guests are Brian Swartz, Harvey Findlings and Sean Eccles. We're drinking whiskey and rye, but Sean Eccles still got gas, singing The Day the Handshake Died. Up here in the north of Holland,

we seem to be staying away from the vast numbers that this corona crisis faces in some other places. I personally blame our culture. We don't talk much. We don't kiss or hug for greets. We don't even do handshakes. You usually position yourself in someone's close vicinity and just say, oi. If you want to make it more intimate, you say, oi, and you nod.

And that's enough for a proper greeting. That combined with my withdrawn, possibly autistic nature, I can only conclude that, apart from the skipped days out to the musical zoo, my life has not changed that much. Well, good for me. For all of you out there, I wish you a safe shelter, some loving arms and or a good nurse, a caring government, enough money to last,

some chicks to fatten up and loads of wisdom. There will be a lot to rethink while we're at this. We hope to catch you in good health somewhere soon.