Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 83: Rachael Price (Lake Street Dive)

Episode Date: May 5, 2020

Andy checks in with yall on the top of the episode and administers his brand of Pump-Up encouragement. And on the interview hour we welcome lead singer, Rachael Price from Lake Street Dive! Shawn pays tribute to the late, great John Prine; whilst Arno satirically steers us down a wild, rambling riverboat ride of insanity. Andy and his babbling buddies close out the show. EP 83 sounds like this. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new album, "Keep On Keepin' On" on iTunes Spotify  Don't miss out on the superb, Lake Street Dive  Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Shawn Eckels Ahri Findling Arno Bakker 

Andy, it's your grandfather. It's Thursday, May. Is it May? I think it's May. I hope you're just doing okay in the quarantine and being careful and washing your hands and wearing a mask when you go outside. Your grandmother and I are okay. Everything is fine. We're not going outside or doing anything. I go to the grocery store once a week just to get some vegetables. week just to get some vegetables. I wanted to call and tell you that we watched your live stream show last week, and it was so much fun.

You just were having a blast, and everybody seemed to be loving it. You've got great dance moves. You must pick that up from me. dance moves, you must pick that up from me. I don't know what your fascination is with mushrooms, but if you like them so much, your grandmother's got a great portobello mushroom quiche recipe. I'll send it to you. Send me your fax number, and I'll get it to you this week. I love you so much, baby boy. When

this is all over, I can't wait to give you a big hug without a mask. I love you, kid. All right, we're here. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's everyone doing? How's our hearts? How's our minds? Are we staying out of trouble? I know we're getting the itch. We want to go out, go party with our friends. Don't worry. I did it too. I had a couple of friends over on Saturday. I felt bad about it afterwards. We all thought we got the Rona, but we didn't. We're feeling good. We're healthy. We all thought we got the Rona, but we didn't. And we're feeling good. We're healthy. We're rocking and rolling in the frasco quarantine situation, but hope you're feeling good. It's seven weeks in, seven fucking weeks of this staying at home, of being alone with

our thoughts, being alone with our lovers for more time than we really are destined to be with. I mean, unless you have like a super loving relationship when you, I mean, I don't know how people do it. I get sick of people after fucking, uh, you know, a couple hours. So we've been having a good time over here at the Frasco house and, um, hope you guys are making the best out of this quarantine because this is the time we got to keep our fucking heads on a swivel. We got to stay focused. This is the time where the quarantine will start beating us up. Wondering when it's going to happen,

when we're going to stop. Fucking, when all this thing is going to stop. And it might not stop for a while, you know. Our summers are fucked. We're going to make the best of it because that's the people we are. We're going to stay optimistic. It's going to be our summer, the summer of us, you know? So like I said, you stay focused. You get your party rocking. Let your mind be free. See where I went there? But you just got to keep focusing. If you don't stop

focusing on yourself, then who else are you going to focus on? Be real, be in the moment, and let's fuck this shit up. This quarantine's over. We're going to be such better people. I already haven't been spending that much money. I feel like after this quarantine's over, I'm going to keep on not spending money. I love it. Just saving money. Just trying to, you know, I don't have a gig until September. So I've been doing these live streams.

Shout out to everyone listening to the shit show. We had 100,000 viewers last week. Unbelievable. Thank you so much for spreading the word. I hope it's fun. Trying really hard to be a, you know, TV. I mean, like, I feel bad for people who have to, like late night shows who have like,

well, they have like 50 fucking staff members. It's just me and Dolov and Danny over here making a whole television show. But damn, it's a lot of, you got to build a lot of content. I'm working hard and we're working hard. I hope you're enjoying it. I threw a Saturday dance party with Relics

where we had the technology rocking. We had live streams up. Everyone could join the dance party. So I'm dancing with everyone on their streams. That was so much fun. We're definitely going to do it again. Maybe Saturday. We don't know yet.

If I don't get fired, I'm going to have to talk to Pete Shapiro and see if he thinks I'm capable for the job again. Maybe I could have a weekly thing every other week. It'd be fun. We should keep dancing. And I'm still doing the podcast, so I'm giving you guys as much entertainment as I can,

trying to get us all through this fucking debacle. But like I said, like Michael Rappaport says, survive and advance. March madness is over. April is over. We're in May, people. We went through quarantine, all of April, like shit was sweet. We were rolling. I stopped eating frozen food, which is important because we could get locked up. We could have nine meals a day because we forget that we are in our houses. And we're not worried about the summer buzz. So stay focused.

Summer's on its way. I want you all to be looking fucking good, rocking and rolling. We're going to go into the lakes or wherever you all are doing for your summer because it's going to pass. We can't think that it's not going to pass because we're going to beat this shit. We are going to beat this shit. And I'm excited for the future. I'm excited how this is bringing people together. We could be lonely, but I really feel like this is bringing people closer and closer spiritually because we're so absorbed with our fucking lives, man. We're so absorbed with what we do in our lives that we forget about the little things like our

family, like my mom, my dad, our parents, our sisters, our brothers, our nieces, our nephews. We forget because life gets in the way. But this is our moment to take a breath from it. Don't drink too much. I know we're going to have to drink, so drink, but don't drink too much. Don't become a fucking alcoholic or don't be calling your guy, getting a bag of blow every weekend after this is over celebrating because that's how we're going to lower immunity and we don't have a vaccine yet. So stay focused. Eye on the prize. We're almost out of this shit storm. But that's my rant. What else do I have?

I don't have any shows, so you know me. Tuesday's podcast day. Thursday, shit show. Saturday might be a dance party. So that's my schedule. And for the four seconds, I want to go to Europe. I really want to go to Greece. I really want to go to Greece. Cheaps are hella fucking cheap. So I might do that, but, um, I'm just ranting now. Ladies

and gentlemen, we have Rachel Price on the show. Lake Street Dive. Big, big guest, big guest. Shout out to Rachel. I love Lake Street Dive. Um, one of my favorite bands growing up I love Lake Street Dive, one of my favorite bands growing up. And just talking to her made me feel like, yeah, this podcast is getting stars. So shout out to Rachel. Thanks for being part of the show. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's start the show. Rachel's on the show.

We got a very fun halftime. We got Sean singing a John Prine song, Western Priest John Prine at the end of the show. And then let's see, maybe I could convince someone to do the closing segment with me. Maybe Dolov, maybe Danny, whoever's in my house. All right, guys, enjoy Rachel Price and I will catch you on the tail end. And remember, survive and advance.

Week seven, look yourself in the mirror and say, I'm going to fuck this shit up. Because you are. You're a legend. You're a hero. Shout out to all the essential workers out there. You're legendary too. We're all in this together. And I love that it on the internet feels like we all are in this together. So stay woke. And I got a new record. Go listen to it. Talk soon. Talk soon. All right.

Next up on the interview hour, we got Rachel Price from Lake Street Dive. I was really excited about this interview. Hey, Chris, play some Lake Street Dive while I pimp her out a little bit. Rachel's dope. She's really focused on singing. She's always wanted to be a singer. She used to do jazz.

She was in a choir. Her dad was, I mean, a lot of, I feel like it could be a lot of pressure if your dad is the choir teacher or conductor when you're one of the main chairs. So great conversation. It was great to talk to her. She's living in New York now. And it was just a lot of fun. And I can't wait for you to hear it. So ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy Rachel Price from Lake Street Dive. Did it work out just the way that you wanted it?

After it all, I stood up tall. I kept my mouth shut so you wouldn't fall. Now everybody's talking about me. Cause you were dirty with Just to get yourself clean Get yourself clean If you're gonna tell them everything Tell them I'm a good kisser Tell them all the things you told me

In your desperate whisper If you're gonna tell them everything Don't leave out the good part Tell them the way that you broke my heart When you told me that you missed it Tell them I'm a good kisser All right. Rachel Price, how we doing?

Good. I mean, okay. Yeah? How you feeling about all this? Um, I feel fine, I suppose. I'm in a pretty fortunate, you know, position. I've got a nice place. I feel fine about it. I feel pretty directionless and lost every other hour, every other day. What are you most lost about? Well, I'm definitely a performer, first and foremost. That is my main form of creativity.

I write songs and I have other creative hobbies, but I don't really have any catharsis like I do from performing. I don't really get it from anything else. What are you doing to get high then? Um, I, I don't have that feeling right now. It's yeah. I mean, we've the, the live streaming thing has been interesting. I've only done it once with Lake Street Dive and a couple times my husband has done them and like I sing with him and it is interesting like you do get nervous and you kind of like you sense that you're performing for people but it's not the same thing and like for singing I've noticed that like there's like a certain type of singing that I can do when I'm alone that I really enjoy.

And I feel like I can do things with my voice that are sometimes not accessible to me when I'm performing. And then the same is true about stage. Like there's so many things that I sing on stage that I would never think to do at home while I was practicing. There's a lot of things that I'm like, whoa, I never even knew that I could do that. And neither of those things kick in when you're performing from your couch. It's so true. Because you don't have,

it's the energy, the push and pull with the crowd that makes us have our best performances maybe. I don't know. Yeah. I didn't realize the importance of, I look into people's eyes when I sing. And I think about how they might think about this lyric. Yeah.

And I try and communicate it to them. So it's pretty hard from your living room. It is. And then especially with the lag, because you don't... I mean, you're probably not looking at the comments or saying, but it's like a 30-second lag. And then you're... Yeah, it's a weird transition, especially for

being a performer. You've been a performer since 17 or something, right? Or didn't you used to do jazz? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Cause your, your old booking agent was my old booking agent, Greg Little. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah. Oh, love Greg. Yeah, Greg's a good guy. What's that transition like? Because you had a lot of people in the industry. If it wasn't music, it was just part of entertainment. And was there a lot of pressure for you know, try to follow the footsteps of your, you know, your relatives? I never had anxiety around singing. Everybody sang in my household somewhat.

I mean, both my sisters sang. My dad was a choral conductor and a composer. So we all sang in the choir. But I think it worked out well in that small dynamic because me and my sisters all had really different singing voices. So nobody was into jazz. My other sister sang opera. And she still does.

And so, yeah, I never felt like, yeah, I never felt pressure about it. And also because I was in Hendersonville, which is like a suburb of Nashville, there was a, like singing was a, was a, you know, it was a common profession. That's where like Johnny Cash like had his house and like lots of bluegrass performers. But a lot of the other people I knew that sang were more interested in country

music so I think I think because I like was doing I was singing like Ella Fitzgerald's renditions of standards when I was like seven and I was like I just didn't no one else was doing it around me so I think I like didn't feel like the pressure because I didn't have anyone to compare myself to. Totally. And what about when the transition, like when you were doing these jazz standards and stuff and transitioning into a different genre,

was that whose choice was that? Was that your choice? Was that a label's choice, a management's choice? Like, did you want to be part of this scene? It was a really fortunate transition that happened organically. I wanted to be full time. And I'd sung many different styles of music, but that was definitely like my first love. And that's like where I sort of most naturally found myself expressing myself as a singer.

And, but then I started performing with a trio, which was really fun, but I wasn't really inspired by the avenues that a 21-year-old could go and sing standards to people. And it wasn't necessarily a bad thing. I just wasn't particularly inspired by going to performing arts centers and having to put on like a very

nice dress and sort of very politely like present these old songs yeah um i and like i also like felt a lot of pressure to like be very inventive in a way in the in the jazz the jazz world that didn't really... I didn't really understand how to express myself because it was like, I loved singing sort of old standards, but I felt like everything at the time was telling me that I should be writing crazy reharms and doing lots of chord substitutions and performing crazy arrangements. And I was like, I don't really want to do that either. Like, yeah, that doesn't, that doesn't really speak to me. So, um, I was like, by the time that Lake street dive had formed, sorry, my cat, she like, whenever I'm on a FaceTime call, she like comes, she never does this. She comes and

sits right in front of me because I think she thinks that I'm talking to FaceTime call, she comes. She never does this. She comes and sits right in front of me because I think she thinks that I'm talking to her. That's awesome. So who are your inspirations, though? Who did you want to be when you were a kid? Who were your girls or your dudes or whatever? Yeah, well, I wanted to be

Judy Garland or Doris Day. I listened to so many jazz singers, but I wanted to be like Judy Garland like I wanted or Doris Day like I loved I listened to like so many jazz singers but like I wanted to be like a stage performer um and it's funny I didn't really like consider that necessarily like a theater a Broadway thing because theater singing at the time and still now doesn't they don't sing like that either so being a jazz singer was the only way i knew how to like be that type of performer um like very dynamic music yeah oh that's yeah totally i mean i'm like i'm i still feel like i still feel like when i'm standing in front of a rock band and like

rocking out i feel more like judy garland standing in front of a rock band and like rocking out, I feel more like Judy Garland standing in front of a, of a rock band. Yeah. I mean, sort of presenting that way. It's like 2020 Judy Garland, girl. You got the, you got the rock and roll. You got the vibes going. I mean, I'm, I'm fucking down for it. So like was songwriting important to you growing up or was it more about entertaining? More about entertaining. I never wrote a song until Lake Street Dive. So what was your first song you wrote with them?

With them, I think it was, I think Clear Space was the first song that we performed of mine. Yeah. And yeah, I think that was the first song. So who inspired you to say, hey, you could be a songwriter, Rachel? Like who was it? Lake Street Dive.

Yeah, those three people. Because when we formed, all of the songs were written by Mike Olson. We basically formed because he was a jazz composition major. And he was also sort of like, I don't really want to write jazz instrumental music. That's the trumpet homie? That's the trumpet guyie that's the trumpet guy yeah okay so he was studying jazz composition and he was a trumpet player and he was just like i kind of just want to start writing songs like just lyrics songs verses um he didn't play guitar

then and he so he started writing songs and that's why he formed the band because he was just like i'm just looking for you guys to play down these tunes I'm writing. And it wasn't long after that that Bridget started bringing in songs that she wrote. And then Calabrese followed suit. And so by the time that I started writing songs, it was fully just in that format. I was only thinking about Lake Street Dive and like what I could bring to that. So yeah. What about now?

Like what's your vision now as a songwriter? Does it matter if it's Lake Street Dive or if you're going to do a solo project or if it's that duo you think? I love that duo you're doing. That shit's tight. Yeah, thank you. So who's that guy?

Vilry. Vilry went to school with us too. Yeah, he started NEC with us the first year. So we've known him for a really long time, but I didn't know that he was as well-versed in traditional jazz from the 30s and 40s as I was. I don't think we really figured that out until 10 years into our friendship. Wow. Because he actually stopped playing music. to like 10 years into our friendship.

Wow. Because he actually stopped playing music. He went to NEC for a year and then he left. And then he got a job in an office for a long time. He was just like working in Queens in an office and secretly just getting really good at the guitar. So what inspired you guys to reconnect? Or you guys always talk throughout the years. What inspired us was just me seeing him perform. what inspired you guys to reconnect or you guys always talk throughout the years? Um,

what inspired us was just me seeing him perform. Like he started busking in the subway and that's how he sort of built up his confidence to, to get out and perform. So then he just started playing small shows and he, he played a, he played, yeah,

a show at a tiny room in Brooklyn and it was so beautiful. Like I was just floored. It was like he played some... I don't know if he played any songs he wrote at that time. I don't think he was really writing them. But he played a lot of obscure songs. So that music from the 20s and 30s and 40s is so incredible because there's a lyrical content and there's a melodic sense that has never been replicated.

But we also all have such a strong connection to the most popular ones that we hear. That sometimes you don't really enjoy hearing someone do Blue Moon. Because you've just heard it so much. But Vilry finds all these very obscure songs That could have been hits They just didn't necessarily Cross over into The standard realm

And so I was experiencing these songs For the first time and I was just like Holy shit this is still the greatest music For me Nothing hits me like this And so I asked him You've got to let me do this with you. That's badass.

So you took the initiative. You're like, fuck this. You're the guy. We're getting this going. So did you ever, you, so you, Subway, so you live in the city? I live in Brooklyn now. And so what was the transition like? How long did you live in Australia for?

Oh, I was born in Australia, but we were kids. So you're Tennessee? You're a Tennessee girl? I'm Tennessee, yeah. So what's, did you have like music, did your parents manage you when you were a kid? No, they didn't manage me. But my father definitely, I sometimes refer to him as a stage parent. Yeah, he was. He was a stage dad. Yeah. He didn't like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, he totally did.

I'm like, you're right. Yeah, no, he did. I was like, I forgot. Me and my sisters had a singing group when we were 15 and we even flew to LA and cut some demos and talked to some producers. So yeah, yeah, we did all that. It's like the Partridge family, dog. No, that's great though. So like, is there like, you know,

cause you're all in the same industry is like, was there any like animosity between sisters if you got more successful than them or if they got more successful than you? It was like, was it a friendly competition or was it just always, we always have each other's back no matter what? There was never any competition with us as far as music was concerned sick i'm sure i'm sure that we've all compared our each other and had those things but it was never about singing that's so what was it about what was the animosity about anything i don't sisterly stuff i yeah exactly sisterly stuff we don't we don't have like any problems that are outside of like the normal realm of just people that know each other really well yeah you know it's pretty pretty like normal normal sibling that's pretty that's that southern

love that's like that i grew up in la where it's like everyone is just like competing against each other it's kind of like it's like a pissing contest. And like, that was one thing I started music industry when I was in 15 or something. I was on the record label side and just seeing how people younger and how they develop and then, you know, do their thing. And then how old were you when you started Lake Street or it was college, right? So it was what? How old were you? 18, I think. So when did you started Lake Street? Or it was college, right? So it was what? How old were you? 18, I think. So when did you guys start touring?

We started touring when I was like 21, probably. Yeah. Is that the hardest part of the job, touring? Or you love it? Yeah, it's the hardest part of the job and i definitely love it yeah what do you get anxiety on the road yes i get a lot of anxiety on the road what uh what do you get anxiety from that's a yeah that's a good question i think all kinds of things um I think that you've toured, right? Yeah, I do about 250 shows a year.

Right, yeah. Same thing. Yeah. So, you know, I think that touring is like an interesting thing because it's like, it's very cathartic and it's very rewarding. But I don't know how, I don't know if I would describe it as very like fun. Yeah. To you? Yeah. Like it's, there's definitely like fun moments.

Yeah. Or like insanely fun moments, like the funnest times will come. But like overall, like waking up in a different place every day, sort of like figuring out your life and all of these things, like spending all your time with the same people, like waking up on a bus, managing personal space,

managing alone time. And then like all of it sort of focusing on these like two hours on stage where you have to give people so much energy um which feels really really good and then you're like exhausted and and um yeah i mean it's just kind of like a you know it's like strangely lonely and yeah you you find you don't have energy for a lot of things that you feel like you should have energy for. Yeah, and it's that dip day when you come back home and you come back to your family

and you come back to your loved ones. I go through these forms of depression where we go through these things, these left and right, we're getting pushed everywhere. And then when we're finally told to settle down, maybe our brain doesn't understand that we're really told to settle down, maybe our brain doesn't understand that it's really, we're really supposed to settle down.

So maybe. Yeah. That's why I think for musicians, this quarantine is fucking amazing. Because, you know, other than like, I mean,

it's, it's, I'm an entertainer too. And I love it. I miss it so much. And I figured out the live stream thing where just like, where I could have my personality, but it's just tough.

It's forcing ourselves to start focusing on ourselves again, right? We're trying to understand who we are. Have you found any quirks about yourself that, oh, I forgot that's what I used to like when I was 10 years old or 11 when I was just playing by myself and stuff? Yeah. Not yet, but I, I mean, I'm not, I'm not really, yeah. I haven't been particularly surprised by the way that I've sort of dealt with

all of this unexpected free time. Like I'm, I'm, I'm definitely like a homebody and I'm pretty like, I'm, I am sort of like prone to laziness. But it's not like laziness from like, I don't enjoy the laziness. I'm just like, it's from like indecision of like how to spend my time in a productive way. Yeah. Where does most of your insecurities run wild when you are alone? I think it's because I'm not performing.

And we have such a weird, messed up job. And probably inner security thing. Because we have a job where we get applauded every night um but yeah i mean i i prickly i i very quickly descend into feeling like i'm like very bad at what i do yeah it's like self-sabotage like i don't i'm like oh completely so much self-sabotage. Like, I don't, I've, like, oh, completely. So much self-sabotage. Just, like, I've never felt like I'm a worse singer.

Like, I just feel like I, and it's, like, so many things. I'm, like, second-guessing. I was just, like, I never should have done that. And, like, why do I sing like this? And, like, oh, I used to be much better, but I've just gotten so much worse. And, like, what happened? Like, because I'm not doing the thing that I do. It's so true. We start overthinking our lives when we can't do what we love. You know, it's like, and that's the craziest thing about touring is like, we spend 14 hours a day waiting for this

two hours of, you know, orgasm in a sense a sense and uh yeah and like when we get that taken away from us like we kind of have this like existential crisis like what am i what's my purpose right now you know like yeah it is halftime at the andy fresco interview hour on a day not so long ago from a place beyond the Middle East, there was a new kid on the block wanting to play tag with us all. And as it stood there

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The big bad flu, the big bad flu, the big bad flu, the big bad flu. Oh, I'm not afraid. I'm afraid of the big bad flu, and what it can do to you. I ain't afraid of no flu! I'm afraid of the big bad flu, the big bad flu,

and what it can do to you. The big bad flu, and what it can do to you. That's all, folks! So, have you found a purpose through quarantine are you sewing are you uh do you have any hobbies no no i have no hobbies i have no hobbies i've been i've been playing more guitar which i don't i don't really know how to play the guitar but i use it to write so i've been playing a bit more of that and that's been very rewarding, but no, I,

I don't have any hobbies. And, and like, I've been talking to friends about this and a lot of people are like, yeah, I think like, it's really hard for people. Like you,

you have to know that like, you aren't what you do. And when they say that to me, I'm just like, you're wrong. Yeah. That's it. That's the thing.

I'm like, I was like, no, I am what I do. That is, I am. That's like when I was like, no, I am what I do. That is, I am. That's like when I perform, I am. That is me. Is that your alter ego when you're on stage?

Are you different than when you're on stage? Is that like your confidence booster? Are you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have any confidence issues on stage. Yeah.

What about outside of stage? Oh, I mean, yeah. Insecurities up the wazoo. Yeah. All of them. Yeah. What about outside of stage? Oh, I mean, yeah. Insecurities up the wazoo. Yeah. All of them. Yeah. But I don't feel like I have body issues when I'm on stage. I don't feel like I judge my singing too much. It always feels very present and just very wonderful it always feels like very like present and just like very wonderful and like a communal experience with people. And I feel also very like, yeah, I feel very nonjudgmental of myself.

Yeah. And then when you get off stage, you feel like a piece of shit again. Yeah. It's the same. I'm the same way. I mean, do you go to therapy? Are you, do you speak to anyone about that? I don't go currently, but yeah, I've, I've, I've seen a therapist over the years. Do you like it? Therapy?

Yeah. Yeah, I really like therapy a lot. What do you like about it? I like that they're a professional and they're drawing these lines, sort of connecting the dots of things. find that to be like extremely pleasing because you know i think everybody is basically we're all just puzzles yeah um and we fit together some way and they're just like they're like professional puzzle people yeah they're big what have you figured out about yourself through therapy um gosh I mean I figured out

a lot of stuff I think the biggest thing that I the biggest realization that I had in therapy and this was early on was that I wasn't a very strong I wasn't strongly connected to like my emotional center

I was very quick to sort of process something that I was feeling, um, and then sort of digest it in a way that was, uh, like easy for me. And I could, I could sort of be like, well, this is how I'm feeling to somebody. And they'd be like, Oh, that makes sense. You're so in touch with your feelings. But I wasn't really in touch with the feeling. I was just like jumping to a conclusion. Yeah. Sort of get myself out of the feeling, which is probably why I experienced so much anxiety

because anxiety is really just a, it's sort of, it's what you feel instead of the emotion that you're ignoring. Yeah, exactly. And isn't anxiety when you start judging yourself from the past and from the future and not living in now? That's why we don't have anxiety on stage, right?

Because we're present. Because we're present, yeah. Have you ever had any breakdowns where you've almost just quit music on the road because of these anxiety feelings? I've never gotten to that point but i i have moments where i'm like maybe i should maybe i need to stop like maybe it'll you know i'll just never i'll i'll never be i'll never be what i want to be or like it's it's always like way too grand of a picture too i'm like I'm never gonna like change

the face of music so I should stop you know things that are like just like completely absurd you're like yeah but one of my one of the best things that has ever been said to me regularly is Mike Calabrese who says this because his dad says this to them but like anytime we were we've been going on stage for like a show that we're more nervous about than another show like a bigger thing he always says just remember nothing matters and nobody cares i love that um yeah and it's like does it calm you down oh yeah it makes me feel so much better because it's so true like and it's it it sounds like i'm sure to some people it sounds like a very negative thing to say but but I think it's very, very positive and beautiful and zen. I'm just like, you know what?

Nothing matters and nobody cares. Yeah, so it takes the pressure off you. So just be yourself. Yeah, totally. It takes the pressure off the moment. Do you hold a lot of pressure on your back? Do you feel like you hold a lot of like, this is, it's on me type of feeling? Yes, definitely.

In what regards? To be the like entertaining front person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To sort of hold the audience. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you put that much pressure on yourself? Well, I mean, I think some of it's just a pretty normal thing

Which is just like I'm standing in the front And I'm singing the songs Yeah I'm the vessel I'm also singing my bandmates' songs So they spent the time writing them And they've given me this absolute privilege I'm also singing my bandmates' songs. So they spent the time writing them. And they've given me this absolute privilege of interpreting their music.

Yeah. And I also do feel a pressure because I'm not a prolific songwriter. So I feel like, I'm like, this is the only thing I do. That's self-sabotage, Rachel. I'm calling bullshit on that. I know. I know. It is self-sabotage.

And it's bullshit because singers don't have to be songwriters. No. And it's completely an art in itself to take something that someone's written and interpret it in a unique way singers have done it for years yeah um and made whole careers out of it but i think i think right now especially in like in music there is a lot of outside pressure to do it all yeah um totally like i i think that's a huge thing and people are like and they they like sang it all themselves, and they wrote everything, and they did all of this. There's so much pressure for pop singers to also be songwriters.

And I'm like, why? Why? I'm like, why? Why does your name have to be on it? You're a pop star. It's fine. And I think it's cool. Yeah.

Obviously, I know for some people that is like their genuine... That's a genuine expression that they want to write songs. But for me, that's being... Trying to be a songwriter, identifying as a songwriter is like a huge struggle for me. What's the most proudest song you've written? Like the song that you're like... I'm really proud that I wrote something like that.

I don't know if I, yeah, I don't know if I have. You don't trust your songwriting skills, Rachel Price. Do not trust yourself via songwriting. Yeah, there's a song on our new record, which is probably I'm not even supposed to mention it, but whatever. We recorded in the studio recently. which is is probably I'm not even supposed to mention it but whatever um we just we recorded in the studio recently and there's a song that I wrote um with Bridget and I'm I'm really proud

of that song is Bridget your girl she badass oh yeah I love I follow her on Instagram she seems like a badass I love with her potato chip uh uh challenge and all that stuff and I feel like do you have a close friend? Who's your closest friend in the band? We're all really close friends. Yeah? Still? Yeah, to be honest.

Yeah, yeah. We're all really, really close friends. God bless your heart, dude. I want to choke my band sometimes. And then like, but I feel like it's necessary to have that camaraderie because that's how you're going to write the best music. What do you think the best performances are when you're all simpatico together or do do people each have their own moments in a show that make it perfect like

what to you is a perfect show i this is such a good question because have you experienced this with your band where we i I feel like we used to, when we were playing in smaller rooms, get off stage and the general feeling was like, that was a terrible show or that was a fun show or whatever. But as the rooms got bigger and as we got a little bit farther apart on stage and we're wearing in-ears, we can,

we have such wildly different experiences on stage. Like I've, I've, I've gotten off and just been like, dang, that was such a fun show. And then someone else just being like, that was awful for me. Like I want to cry and vice versa. I've gotten off stage and just been like, that was like, the sound was horrible.

I want to, yeah, like I need to go take a sound bath. I need to rinse that show off of me. I feel horrible. Um, and them being like, Oh, weird. You seem like you're having a good time. I'm like, I thought you sounded good. And I really enjoyed it. My ears sounded great tonight. So like, yeah, I think it's the in-ears. It's like, it's like that idea of like getting enough crowd ambiance and getting... For you, you're a viber. You're the lead person. So if you're looking at the people's souls every day,

you probably have the best vision on if people are responding, right? Is that a lot of pressure? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I put like getting on the technical side of in-ears, like I always have like a shit ton of room mics, like so I can hear the audience super well, which isn't always like conducive for me hearing the mix well. But if I don't have the audience, then I can't perform. And I just like, yeah, I feel like I'm in a weird prison. What's the worst show that you still dream about? Oh. There's been a few, but there's one that sticks out. It was in

Iowa City, and I think it must have just been my mood because, you know, sometimes you play shows and the sound is bad, and you just get off, and you're like, yeah, it wasn't great. Like, whatever. Room's a room. Next. But, yeah. Something, like, I couldn't conquer it. I was just're like, yeah, it wasn't great. Like whatever rooms, a room next. But yeah, something like I couldn't conquer it. I was just like so frustrated by how horrible it was and that I didn't feel

like the audience liked it at all. And it felt like a feedback loop. And yeah, I got, I think I got off stage and I, I cried and I was just like, I was like, that was so awful for me. Yeah. Because you put so much pressure on being the best every day, right? Yeah. That's fucking hard on yourself, especially that two hours. You only get two hours to be the best, right? It's all you get.

It's all you get. And like sometimes people, the audience is incredible. And sometimes they're just kind of dead. Yeah. You know, and you're like, well, okay. Yeah. You know, and if you're not in a dead yeah you know and you're like well okay yeah you know and if you you know if you're not in a good mood to get over it like one time i was in a great mood and like i just i just in my head i just like made up a musical the whole time i was like think i i was like i was having like a creative like like just like journey about something else

entirely while I did the entire show yeah and I got off stage and I was like that audience was so boring that I was able that I was able to do two things yeah at once the whole time and I had a great time I had a great show do you ever do you ever go when you... I love that idea because at the end of the day, it's yours. It's your art. So do you ever go off script when you feel like you're having a bad show or the audience is not feeling it? Do you ever audible what you're going to do? you do you normally stay on script to who to what the show is we stay on script to what the show is yeah yeah we the sets normally the set i mean you know sometimes there's there's a few changes but yeah i it's funny with with lake street dive also like my personality and like talking to the audience is like it's pretty like for some reason i've always felt like my character

in the band is to like be like pretty like sweet and bubbly and nice and it was funny when i started performing with villery in like smaller rooms and it's just the two of us and like we have like a really specific um like conversational dynamic with each other. And all of a sudden I was being like much sassier. I was like making like dark jokes. I was like heckling back to the audience. I was like doing things that I was like, this isn't normally how I would act on stage. This is authentic to who I am,

but I've never been, I don't do this with Lake Street Dive, nor do I think I could do it with Lake Street Dive. Like I just don't think, I just don't think it's like, I don't think it's my role in the band. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. So like you said, you're building characters and each character, if it's your duo or if it's your full band, do you need structure in your life? Is that important for you, structure and having an idea of there's a plan?

Yes, I do. I like structure very much. So yeah, I'm a Virgo. Fuck yeah, girl. That's tight. I love structure and I love limitations. What do you mean? Explain that. Yeah, I like working within limits. I find that to be like way more freeing. Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes I, I even enjoy when like my voice is in a, is in like an altered state, whether it's like from a cold or like being hoarse, like it's kind of fun to be like, well, I actually don't have those notes tonight. So. So you're being creative. I mean, you're changing.

So you gotta, you have to work. Yeah to work with what you've got. Yeah. I really dig that. What's the biggest inspiration? Who was it that came to you and said, you could do this? My dad. Your dad. What'd he say? Yeah. And how old were you when he said it? I was pretty young. I don't really remember because I was, I mean, I started singing so much when I was like five. And from a pretty young age, he was like, you've got a really different voice than other people. And you've got a really good ear. Yeah. So yeah. Were you religious? Yes. Yeah. We're Baha'is.

What is that? I don't know if you... The Baha'i faith is, it's a pretty like young religion in terms of religion because it's only been around for about 200 years. And it is a religion

that believes in all the major world religions and that they all came from one God at a different time. So each religion is a progression of the next. They're simply a continuation. So what songs were you singing back then? I was singing gospel music, and I was singing a lot of music that he wrote.

He takes Baha'i texts and would set them to music. And yeah, all kinds of stuff, really. And a lot of jazz. So was your Pops one of your biggest inspirations? Definitely when it comes to performing. One of the biggest things that he taught me was gratitude to the audience. Because he took me on choir tours starting when i was like 11 years old he would he would take like 100 100 piece choirs all over europe um so i did that probably like six times

before i was 16 so i kind of got a taste for the touring life um pretty young and they were like no no we weren't homeschooled i was just just, I guess it's just the Tennessee school system. They didn't mind me leaving school for like three weeks. They're like, girl, you're going to be a singer, girl. Yeah, they just like sort of didn't seem to care that much. I would just, yeah, I would go. So yeah, they were like three week tours. But when I was like 12, he started giving me solos.

And I remember one time I was was you know i was i was 12 so like i wasn't like a super like responsible person at that time i wasn't like well gotta get my eight hours because i gotta do my big solo tomorrow i would like stay up late with the other like people and i was hoarse i was i wasn't uh i'd sort of lost my voice. And I told my dad, like, can you just cut the song tonight? Like it's one song out of a whole concert. Like I can't sing. And he was just like,

absolutely not. He was just like, you need, he was just like, you made choices that brought you to this point. And, and that is not, that is not the show's fault or the audience's fault.

That's your fault. And you're going to figure out how to sing. And you're going to smile. You're not going to let anybody know that you're not feeling well. And if you feel bad about how you sing, you should remember that you did that to the audience. Self-sabotage, dog. Dude, he's like Michael Jackson's dad, dog. He's like, Rachel!

It's true. I mean, it does sound really extreme. And it was. I mean, I was like, what? Like, are you kidding me? But also, like, that is how I approach performing. And I'm really appreciative. Yeah.

Because really what he was trying to drive home was like, what you're doing is like all for the audience. Like you need to have gratitude that their ears are listening to you. So whatever comes out, like treat it with respect because like these people are taking the time. Yeah. And it's like the beauty of us making art is it shouldn't be taken for granted, you know?

Yeah. Because a lot of people aren't fortunate enough to be able to do art, right? Yeah, exactly. So what about your pops? Did he put a lot of pressure on you? Do you feel like he put more pressure on you as a choir kid than the other people?

Yeah, he definitely put pressure on you as a choir kid than the other people? Yeah, he definitely put, he definitely put pressure on me, um, to be, yeah, to work hard. I mean, he, he didn't just put pressure on me. He also provided me with like a lot of education and he was very sort of, he was constantly trying to think about how I could be better. So it was like when I was getting into singing um jazz so much and it was like seeming like that's all that i was going to want to do yeah he was just like well you're never going to get good at singing jazz sitting at home like learning from records he was like you have to play with a band like he was just like that's that's how jazz was formed it was live musicians in a room so he like he did all he sought it out and he was

just like you're 14 like i don't know any jazz musicians for you to play with there's no jazz program at my school so he found me a jazz school in nashville and he was like the school's uh you'll you'll sing with the band every week you'll learn songs you'll write your own arrangements and um i did that for like three years and i learned so much from that. And that's probably why I was able to get into the New England Conservatory because I'd done all of this, taken all of these classes. So he put pressure on me, but he was, he's, he's sort of a scientific approach type of person. You know, he wants to, when he looks at something, he's like, there must be a method. And if you follow this method, then you will figure it out. And so he was just like,

you have to play with live musicians. So what's the difference? As often as possible. So NEC's in Boston? Sorry? Is NEC in Boston? So what was that transition from being, you know, I guess Nashville.

Was Nashville popping back then when you were growing up? Or when did it start getting hip? I don't know. I mean, no. Yes, it was starting to change. I mean, I was 17 and I lived in the suburbs. So, yeah. Okay. So it's same shit. Yeah. Yeah. Same, same as every place. I mean, it's, it's changed so, so drastically. It's not, it's not the town that I knew. Well, it feels like you transitioned your life from this suburb living to Boston,

now New York. What do you like about cities? Oh, I love public transportation. Yeah, me too. I love every bit of culture. I love museums. I love clubs. I love restaurants. I love hanging out in bars.

I like Irish jam sessions. Yeah. I like, yeah, I love it all. The road could get you. The road will get you. I don't know how people actually

can drink every night on the road. I don't drink. I've never had any, so I don't really know what it's like. I'm sure there's a momentum to it to where you're just like, yeah, you get used to it and you can. But yeah, I mean, I need all my sleep and I need all my exercise and all my yoga and all the water. So what do you think you're addicted to? Do you think you're addicted to anything?

No, I don't think I'm addicted to do you think you're addicted to anything um no i don't think i'm i don't think i'm addicted to anything yeah yeah well that's great i mean besides like snacks yeah i love snacks what's your favorite snack what's your go-to snack when you're taking a cheat day chips and hummus fuck yeah damn that's a cheat chips and damn you are so Chips and hummus. Fuck yeah. Damn, that's a cheat. Chips and hummus. Damn, you are so focused. Chips and hummus is a cheat day for you? Yeah, that's not. There's not very much nutrition in that. I mean, the hummus is good, but we're talking about a lot. We're talking about a lot of chips.

Yeah, okay, cool. Massive quantities. Like a party bag. A party bag, and it's a party for one. Yeah, it's awesome. So I got a couple more questions. Thanks so much for doing this with me, Rach. I appreciate you.

Oh, you're so welcome. And I've watched your career now for, I don't know, seven years, six years. When did that first record come out? The first Lake Street Dive record? Mm-hmm. Oh, gosh. We've been a band for 15 years. Fucking epic.

Did you ever feel like you guys were going to break up in the beginning? Because shit started popping like, what, seven years ago? Eight years ago? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, about seven or eight years ago. We always had this insane... It's like we were crazy people. We had this insane sense that we were going to be a band forever.

I mean, there was even a period of time where we're like, we're going to get, you know, a set of bunk beds and we're all going to live in a loft. And it's just going to be like band camp, band rehearsal, like every day of our lives.

In Boston? And we wanted to do that in New York. This was like after we graduated when we like first started doing tours. But we had a bit of a moment where after we graduated and people needed money and they, you know, we sort of lived in other places. Bridget was here in New York. Some of us were still in Boston and McDuck had moved down to Maryland briefly. And that sort of brought us to a place where we were like, it was harder for us to schedule shows and do all of that stuff. And it came, we, we made a decision to, to go full time. Like everybody was playing in other bands and touring with other stuff and had

jobs. And, and we sat down together and we were like, you know, if this is going to be something that we're going to really pursue, we have to set everything else down. And we did. And as soon as we set it all down, it happened. We start, it happened. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like that's anything in life. Like if you're falling in love, you need to dive in 120%. If you have any job, it's like you have to go for things in life. Or if you take a half ass and it's never going to go the way you always

dreamed about it, right? Exactly. Yes. And we never would have known if we kept going the way that we were, which was like, okay, doing a show every three months, doing one tour a year. We never would have figured out our potential. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. Oh, man. It's amazing. Thank you so much for talking to me. I got one last question. What do you want to be remembered by, Rach? What do I want to be remembered by? Yeah, like when it's all said and done, your name's in the history books.

If you have kids or whatever, I don't know your personal life, but what is the main thing that you want to be remembered by? I just want to be remembered that I was an authentic person. Yeah. Is that important to be remembered by? I just want to be remembered that I was an authentic person. Yeah. Is that important to you? Authenticity? Yeah. It's very important to me. Yeah. That's awesome. I just want to be myself. Well, you're doing a great fucking job. Rachel,

thanks for being on the show. It means a lot. And thanks for doing the lip singing. I love watching your career and I'm going to be rooting for you forever. So cheers. I appreciate that so much. So nice to talk to you. Have a good one, Rach. Thank you. Now, a message from the UN. guitar solo Well, you and me Sitting in the back of my memory Like a honeybee buzz around a glass of sweet Chablis Radio's on, windows rolled up and my mind's rolled down

Headlights shining like silver moons rolling on the ground Yeah, we made love in every way love can be made We made time look like time could never fade Friday night, we both made the guitar Saturday made Sunday feel like it would never come Gonna be a long Monday Sitting all alone on a mountain by a river that has no end Gonna be a long Monday

Stuck like the tick of a clock It's come on wild Again Again All right, and there we have it. Thank you, Rachel, for being on the show. So sweet. So lovely. She's awesome. It's really cool

to be part of a scene that we're all just trying to be the best we can. So shout out to Rachel. Shout out best of luck to Late Street Dive and all that goodness. But ladies and gentlemen, I brought the whole quarantine, the quarantine frasco brigade on the show. We got Danny Zagayer on the show. What up? What up, dog? And we got Dolav motherfucking Cohen. What up? We're here quarantining this fucking Corona. So

it's ups and downs in this Corona, this quarantine, right, Danny? Life is up and down, baby, all the time. What happened last night? You had an anxiety attack? What was going on? Last night, yeah, I mean, now that we live together, we know everything about each other. So, yeah, man, I mean, you know, it's funny. Every so often, you know, you go through these ups and downs. Last night, I had, like, a really difficult night.

Couldn't sleep. Just, you know, you get all these different triggers of anxiety and you can spiral out of control sometimes. Yeah, what happened? What triggered it? Do you feel like you were just not being productive? Was it money that was triggering it? I think productivity is definitely a thing.

Since I have been out here a couple weeks working together with you, we've been making these awesome videos together. Shout out to Danny fucking Ferris Bueller. Unbelievable. It's been fun, you know, and it's like, you know, sometimes it's you or I. It's hard, you know, I tend to think about, I think you get, I get lost when I think about the end result of everything that you're doing. And that's mostly a factor of not being present in what you're doing. You know, you start thinking about, well, what am I doing this for?

And what am I getting out of it? And I think that that's a trap that I can fall into sometimes is kind of focusing on the outcome as opposed to the process and kind of thinking about, you know, I'm out here making videos, which has been awesome. And it's been super fun. And you start to think about, well, there's no... You start thinking about the outcome and you go, well, I'm not making any money from this.

What's the point of doing this? Why am I doing this? And you kind of start to think about, well, maybe I shouldn't be doing this. Maybe I should go home. And I think that once you just kind of calm down and say, just doing what you love and what makes you happy is really, that's the reward. And that's the thing that if you keep thinking about,

what am I going to get? You lose sight of what you're doing. And that can make what you're doing feel insignificant. Yeah. And what if we took money out of the equation? What if our world took money out of the equation and you're doing... Would you be more happy if you didn't feel like the end result was money? Absolutely.

Absolutely. You have to focus. When you start to think about what you're doing and thinking, the money will come. Don't even think about the money. The reward is the money will come or don't even think about the money the reward is the process that's what the reward is the reward is sitting down in my case editing for hours you know fucking making tv show for fucking 40 hours exactly but that's the reward that's what we have to look forward to yeah but it's like what it's like the reward is living. Living.

Doing what you love. Or just living. I mean, look how fortunate we are to live. Yeah, in the place that we're living now. The US is maybe not the greatest place in the world right now with being the number one coronavirus country in the world. But no, we are very fortunate. Just to have the freedom to go ahead and say, I can do whatever it is that makes me happy. If it's dancing or making music or making videos

or making films. Or hanging out with your friends. Hanging out with your friends. You can do that and you can find a way. Money will come. Don't worry about that. Worry about what makes you happy. Yeah, and we're so focused. That's what's fucked up about our country, right? We're so focused on money, right, Dolav? That's right, man. I mean, it's like what makes the world go around,

but also makes people stress and be sad. You don't need money to have you know happiness and love in your life obviously it helps but yeah it does help but no i mean you know coming out here and we're not making money we're just having fun and you know enjoying ourselves well it's also the bonding i mean we haven't really had this much bonding experience since we were fucking in middle school. Life happens and we're so self-absorbed with who we are as who we want to be in the future that we don't.

I used to do, I'm getting better about on my phone. I'm still on my phone so much, but in high school I was on my phone all the fucking time. It wasn't even present. When we'd hang out, I'd be trying to chase pussy or just trying to do something that isn't in the now. And right when we're in the now, I think that's when we're happiest.

Like you said, like we played fucking risk for four and a half hours last night. We played one game. One fucking game. One game. It took four hours. And like we're at first like, fuck this, fuck this. Because we're thinking about the future. Like, when is this going to end?

But when we fucking dove in. We got into it and we got into it me and danny got into it existential crisis you got too from the fucking yeah i think dolov gave me a little bit of anxiety with how hard he attacked my risk troops last night quarantine has made board games go to a whole new level of seriousness. Dude, I'm telling you, man. But it's like, we got to stay present. We got to appreciate that we get to live here. I will say just in the time that I've been here watching you work, Andy, it's been an inspiration to me because I could see that everything that you do

is in service of what makes you the happiest. And it's all pushing forward the things that you love the most. And so it's very easy to kind of get lost in a job where you're like, well, what am I doing this for? Who am I doing this for? And if you're not doing it for yourself and for what makes you happy, if you like sales and marketing, if that's what makes you happy not doing it for yourself and and for what makes you happy i mean if you like sales and marketing and you know if that's what makes you happy do it if you like writing and being creative do that and do that and you'll find that like just getting up in the getting

up in the morning and doing what you love is going to be so much easier because you're like i'm doing this for me i'm i'm enriching myself and i've seen you do that and that's you know what drives me to kind of be like well i love making videos and making films and doing sketches and like that's you know i can take that and apply it to what i'm doing and i go you know what this is i'm in the right place i'm i'm feeling happy doing this we forget who we are dan dola do you do you tend to forget who you are, Dolab? Yeah, I mean, you know, you get lost in just like... Your beard's getting huge. I know.

Jesus fucking Christ, I didn't even realize that. The Jew curls are coming out. Dude, it's like yarmulkes, dog. You got like a whole fucking Jew beard. The lighting is just right, people. No, but you get lost in, you lost in the shuffle of life and work. You just keep going and going. You forget why you're doing this and what really does make you happy.

For me, it's just hanging with my friends. I agree. You taught me about intimacy. Not physical intimacy, but emotional intimacy. Homie intimacy. Yeah. That's like we're in this together. I mean, we could do it alone, but that's all in our heads. We have people around us. We're not scared. I mean, we're scared, yeah, to be vulnerable. we're not scared i mean we're we're scared yeah to be vulnerable but if we take the steps to hey i'm feeling shitty today and not just keep it in it makes us feel less alone so that's why i was happy right when you walked in from your bed hey i had anxiety attack i'm like talk to me about it

because i have anxiety i had anxiety attack last night too i was wheezing i'm like fuck dude this fucking the allergies are horrible here. I'm like, oh shit, is it Rona? You guys all freaked me out. So like, you know, it's like we get stuck of what's going to happen in the future and not get stuck to how we're going to be better today. Right. Yeah. And I do appreciate you, you know, checking in on it, on me and on your friends. And I think that that's something that like, as a society we should be doing is checking in on the people that we love and care for the most. Because sometimes you can get lost in your own head

and it's important to know that we're all here for each other and that things will get better and things can be better. All you just have to do is just talk about those things. Don't bottle them up. Process them with people. Reach out. Because y'all came here not to make movies or not to be part of the show.

You guys came here because we all need it. We were lonely. We were lonely. We came out here just to have fun. So if that was the first prerogative, then now that we have videos, now we have a fan base, now we think about, oh, fuck, we should get paid for this. Or we should get, you know, because that wasn't the plan in the first place.

I mean, I think like that too. Not the plan, yeah. The plan was just to make fucking movies and shows just to entertain ourselves. And that's the fun part of it. Yeah. And don't think about, ourselves. And that's the fun part of it. Don't think about that's the thing. Think about the process. Enjoy the process. Don't think about the outcome

and you'll be in a good place. Yeah. Speaking of outcome, we're going to go on a wakeboard. We're going to go to the lake. We've been hiking a lot. We've been doing that. I've been taking mushrooms like it's... I don't want to blow your covers, but I've been taking mushrooms like it's fucking going out of style over here in the Frasco fun house. But we went hiking and I think that helps too. It's like, get out of your

house, take a walk, go into nature. I feel like every time we go hiking, we get our smiles back. Big time. Yeah. Nature is life. It really is. I mean, it's amazing. And you know why? Because nature is the, the, it's presence in your face. You cannot, you know, not be present when you're in nature. There's an energy there. There's a vibe that you really just can connect to what's around you. It's more grounding than anything. You're not in your phone. You're not thinking about the outcome. You just are are and this is the same reason about anxiety we think about do you ever get anxiety Dolav? I never see your ass get anxiety

not really man I don't know the only times I do is with my dad and he's just fucking calling me out on shit and you know just helping him out with his work but like I think him and my dad, or my dad and my sister

are the only ones who give me anxiety. What about it? They just get me heated. I don't know. There's just something about the way my mom raised me and I'm a lot more like her and a little more calm and something about what they do just triggers me

and gets me more heated you know as heated as i was last night with danny yeah you guys over again over you guys were pissed over south america yeah fuck you danny you're not taking south america we're cursing cursing each other out all night respect to andy he whooped our ass in the end i did win but i i can't take i was just on a cloud nine. We had a great dance party, Dolov and I. Dolov, we're going to do those Saturday night dance parties. Fucking just having fun. Just having fun.

That's the point. If we can't have fun when we're forced to not work, then when are we ever going to have fun? Totally. This is what we did when we were kids, and now we're doing it again. We're DJing and dancing around.

Because there'll be a time when life happens again and we're going to go back to work and we're going to be fucking stressed out and we don't have enough free time and it's the same bullshit, it's just the reverse. So we need to stay focused, stay present and try to fuck this shit up

because life's too short, bro. We should try to have fun every day, even if the circumstances don't allow it. Because in America, when things don't go our way, we freak out. Europe's not like that. They've been dealing with wars and fucking poverty. We need to take the Europeans and start working to live and not living to work. Even I say that and I'm fucking working 45 hours a week on these fucking shows.

But you love it. But I love it. You love it. And that's the thing is that you like the process of it. You're not thinking about what you're getting out of it. I mean, you just get up and you're like, this is what I want to do. This is what makes me happy.

And that's, that's the point. And that's, that's commendable, man. Very inspiring. Well, I love you guys.

Let's, let's fuck shit up. Um, hopefully if you guys leave next week, I don't know. We just keep on lending a ride every week, but, uh,

uh, there's been, uh, it's been fun hanging out with you guys and the fans have been loving it. And, you're making me a better person just hanging out with you guys. And the fans have been loving it. And you're making me a better person just hanging out with you and remembering about middle school and high school. We played Frisbee at midnight in the middle of the street.

We fucking did, dude. And we waited for cars. When cars came, we walked past. And then the car, I mean, it really felt like middle school, high school. Yeah, we'd be at a bar right now or just chasing tail. Chasing tail and getting fucked up. Frisbee in the street. We're getting fucked up and playing frisbee now, boys.

We love you, man. We love you too. Thanks for having us. Thanks for being here because I would be doing this by myself and I wouldn't say it would be less fun. Yes, it would be less fun because I'd be just working.

Like I, when, when you first saw me, I was just working till 4am every day. And you're like, no, we're not doing, you're going to work like normal human,

8pm. And then we're going to go hang out. So thanks for making me be human. And hopefully we'll get one more, make one more show out of this shit show. And we're just going to keep rocking. But until then, we're going wakeboarding because it's Sunday, baby. And we're going to have a great time.

So everyone, find something you love to do. Be safe. Arno. Oh, yeah. This too. Wear condoms. Protect yourself from baby boomer 2.0 because that shit's going to happen. We're going to be 70, 80.

There's going to be kids everywhere because we started fucking in quarantine. So be careful. Unless you want to have a kid or six, whatever, do it. But love you guys. Be safe. We'll see you next week. Not sure who's on the show, but we'll figure it out. And Arna, take us away with something nice, sweet,

while we go wakeboard on a one boat lake. Love you guys. You tuned in to the third season of Babbling Buddies at Andy Fresco's World Saving Podcast. Thank you for listening to episode 83, produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angelo and Chris Lawrence. Please subscribe and rate the show on iTunes and Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon. For info on the show, please head to our Instagram at world saving podcast. For more info on the blog on today, head to

andyfresco.com. The new album, Keep On Keepin' On, it's out. And there is an online shit show on Thursdays. And there are occasional dance parties. Find the fun online. It's on Facebook and Insta and iTunes and Spotify. This week's guest is Rachel Price from Lake Street Dive.

Find them on lakestreetdive.com. Our special guests this week are Ari Findling, Sean Eccles, Dolph Cole, Danny Zagayer and Arno Bakker. I made a bit for the podcast. Just for fun, I was hanging about anyway, but I got struck in the process. There was quite a lot of work involved, getting the words right, getting the tone right, playing the horns after a good number of weeks without exercise. All took me a good while and then it hit me. Not the ban the banjo i recorded just like that i picked it up i tuned it and i nailed it in the second take and that is scary or my ears don't notice it wrongs

or even more distressing my true destiny might be playing the banjo i am am the joke. I am the guy hanging around a bunch of musicians. Oh, it's me. Hello, the banjo player. See you next week. If I make it past the C sharp and did not take it to the fucking bridge.