Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 84: Doom Flamingo

Episode Date: May 12, 2020

Held up in isolation, we look deep inside for inspiration... and find DOOM FLAMINGO on the Interview Hour! These beautiful, synthwave angels share what it's like coming up in Charleston, South Carolina, hustling side gigs as a wedding band, and about one of our favorite venues: The Charleston Pour House. Arno loses sleep during halftime and Shawn reminds us that Rock & Roll ain't pretty... but it's pretty f'n cool. Stay safe and imbibe the sweet nectar of Andy's ceaseless encouragement. This is EP 84. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new album, "Keep On Keepin' On" on iTunes Spotify  Study up on your synth-wave and get hip to www.doomflamingo.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Shawn Eckels Ahri Findling Arno Bakker 

Andy, it's your dad responding to your text about ideas for mom for Mother's Day. I came up with a couple. She said she wants one of those air fryers she saw on the Dr. Oz show. I'm not sure how they work, but he said it makes healthy french fries, so maybe that. She broke her glasses, so she needs a new pair she said she likes some company called warbutt parker i don't know if you know warb i think that's the name warbutt parker our vcr also broke so maybe you could get us a new vcr your mom loves those jane fonda tapes and and I don't know how to

get one of these because they don't sell them in the Best Buy anymore also this one I this is my favorite idea tell me if you could do this you know how she loves Celine Dion maybe maybe with your connections in the music business you could like have Celine call mom and wish her a happy birthday. I don't know, it's just an idea. All right, that's what I came up with. If you want to also, listen, if you got some money, you want to buy your old man a new lawnmower, I need it

because the one I had broke and I'd love a new one. All right, love you, kid. Wash your hands. Call me back. Wash your hands and call me back. All right, all right, all right. How we doing, everybody? Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast.

I am Andy Frasco. On this Monday morning, your spiritual advisor, I guess, if you want to say that, through the quarantine, just trying to keep people happy, keep people smiling How's our hearts? How's our heads? Are we staying optimistic? That's the most important part about this

This is fucking day 50 or whatever in our houses With our lovers, with our roommates, with our minds This is like survive and advance Do I have to get you the pump up music for this Tuesday? Ladies and gentlemen, we've been in our fucking houses for 50 fucking days. The orgasms aren't as good anymore. Well, maybe they are. You've watched every single porn you could watch Oh my gosh And it's getting boring But promise me something

You fucking got this Because If you don't think you got this You're wrong You're stronger than this fucking virus You're stronger than this fucking Alright I'm done with that But you're strong

And you gotta realize how strong I was having this conversation yesterday I went wakeboarding, it's my Sunday tradition Trying to get up on a wake And I ate shit again But I tried, and I went tubing And you know Our quarantine

We all just got on our buddy's boat And just started talking about life a little bit And it's amazing. Your body is so fragile, but so resilient. Your mind will start giving you all these alerts like, oh, you're not this strong. You're not this strong. What the fuck? What the fuck?

But you really are. We got this. We're stronger than the quarantine. We're stronger than the fucking virus. We just got to pay attention to the rules, follow them, and think of others. This is so important right now. We have to think of others. And I think we are. I went to the park just to walk around, throw Frisbee. I've been throwing Frisbee like I'm fucking in Lambda, Lambda, Lambda college fraternity again. And it's fucking awesome. I love Frisbee.

I didn't realize how much I loved it. I'm getting back to my roots. As a kid, I looked at old photos. I was always outside throwing a basketball, throwing fucking Frisbee. And I'm doing the same thing now. So find that inner child

in you and let them run rapid through this fucking quarantine. Go fucking naked. You want to run around naked in your house fucking scaring your children? I mean, your children. I mean, you've seen them. They've seen you. So whatever.

Do whatever you want. It's day 50. Who gives a fuck? We're just trying to survive. Survive in advance. Like Michael Rapport says, it's true. It's this marsh madness. It's going into April. It's going into May.

Survive and advance, people. We got this. We fucking got this. All right, we got Doom Flamingo on the show today. Ryan Stasek's band out of Charleston, South Carolina. Fucking badass. Kanika.

They're dope. And I can't wait for you to listen to the interview. I got this interview done a little bit ago, but it's relevant and it stays with the times and talks about the struggles of being in a band and how Charleston, South Carolina is fucking awesome. And if I had the balls, I'd live out there. Maybe one. I just got to... I think the only, I'd live out there. Maybe one, I just gotta, I think the only way I'm going to move out of Denver is if I fall in love with somebody. So maybe I'll find a post

quarantine girlfriend in Charleston and I'll move out there, but I'm loving Denver. Denver is amazing. I'm having a blast. All the friends out here are fucking just so supportive, and we're all in this together. And you just got to find a base that supports you. Musicians are fucked. We are fucked right now. We got live streams. It's probably going to last through the summer, but who knows

when people are going to start getting fucking bored of just sitting on their couch watching us play. They're going to go out and do other things. Support your local musicians. Support your fair musicians because I don't know how long the live stream is going to last. Just take care of them.

They're telling me that we're not going to play shows until 2021. I don't want to scare you. That's fucking scary, dog. We're going to be fucked for a little bit, but it's okay. Like I said, survive and advance. Being jobless for five days is better than the alternative.

Dying, yo. Who knows? This virus is getting people, you know, different bodies react to the virus differently. We just got to think of others. So enough of my preaching because I'm here for you. We're here to have a good fucking time. Survive in advance, baby. I will catch you on the tail end when this interview is over.

We got a fun halftime. We'll just keep rocking, keep it going. I'm here for you, boys and girls and ladies and men and cougars and jilfs. Jilfs is grandfathers. Yeah. All y'all. I'm here for you. I love you.

I'll catch you on the tail end. All right. Next up on the interview hour, we got Doom motherfucking Flamingo. Chris, play some Doom Flamingo. This music is like sci-fi porn I mean, Ross is a killer keyboard player Stasik is fucking Stasik You know, he's holding it down on the bass guitar

And then Kanika is one of the best vocalists I've ever heard And we had a great conversation They're super sweet people They reached out with me early in their career And they're just so fucking sweet And I love the Poor House and you know the Charleston Poor House is taking care of all these bands dealing with this stuff

through the live stream and they're doing live streams at the Poor House and they're fucking legendary so ladies and gentlemen please enjoy Doom Flamingo and the awesome city that is Charleston. Cause in the nighttime, I'll find something new Your eyes are miles and miles of nothing But something that I feel

A lost and open highway A faraway field Blue fading skyline Hands on the wind Lost in the nighttime I'll find something here And we're fucking here. Denver, Colorado. Something here it's been quite a whirlwind you know so you guys are a new band yeah you guys got the uh the bass legend ryan staysick stays base yes and you got are you guys all from charleston yeah okay let's talk about charleston because this is a very special place to me first off you have the hottest

women i've ever seen in my life in this town. And like, everyone seems so cool. Like everyone's like, so nice. Like I was just talking to your crew. You guys played in Denver for, um, the red rocks weekend for unfreeze and the pre-party. And it was like, I was like,

kind of like wondering if, um, you know, it's like, you're new to Denver. So you wonder if people will show up and stuff. And it was fucking sold out. Yeah.

Yeah. We're fired up, man. It's pretty cool like the music i i like it feels like 80s porno music that it's like a fantasy porno like if i was like beating off to like just like sci-fi porn i think like this music yeah if tarantino made a porno i think that's your music it's definitely definitely it's so good like you're a great keyboard player like how do you what's your intake with with ryan always away how are i guess not

always away anymore because he kind of lives in charleston yeah how do you like what how what's the songwriting structure like who who writes who brings it is it? Do you guys email parts? You guys practice at the poorhouse. Explain the process. Explain how this band got together. What happened? How did you bring this beautiful soul into the group? How did we meet? Was it from...

I'm sure one point or another. Working with Mike Quinn. Working with Mike. the sax player. Yeah. And then hanging out with Peace and TK back in the day. Me and the guitar player and my buddy Jonathan Peace, we all lived in one bedroom apartment for a while. Yeah, we were all hanging out together in closed spaces.

There's so many musicians in Charleston. Yeah. Everybody runs into everybody in Charleston. Yeah. Everybody runs into everybody at some point. Yeah. No matter where you are. It's awesome. So I guess how we started the band, though, and how we got Kanika in there was pretty much our buddy Hank Wharton

is a promoter, and he booked on Freeze for some shows. And Ryan hit him up and was like hey i want to like do an after party with uh with some local musicians and hank was like man you should just like uh put a band together with like maybe stew kanika tk and ryan and uh and mike and then talking about just doing just one show right yeah we're supposed to be yeah it was supposed to be one show. It was supposed to be one show. And then I think we all just kind of loved it.

I remember I was driving back from... It was like we just kind of hit the ground running immediately. It was really cool. Me and my girlfriend were driving back from Los Angeles. I was on tour with another band. And we were driving the van back across country. And my buddy Hank hit me up and he was like, Hey man,

like you should start a band with like all of these people and Ryan Stasek. And I was like, yeah, yeah, this, yeah, that's a, that's a great idea.

I, I'll believe it when I see it kind of thing. And then next thing I know we're like on a text thread together and it's like, what do we call it? And like came up with all these ridiculous band names and uh yeah most of mine were terrible but we uh we landed on we landed on i think the one of them was velociraptor but was like an osc like an oscillator which is like the nerdiest shit ever but uh the late nights that was another one but with with a K. Nobody steal that one. I'm going to hang on to that one.

But yeah, and then Ryan said Doomfmingo, and I was like, man, that is the worst name I've ever heard. And then next thing I know, I just start seeing flamingos everywhere, and I was like, all right, I appreciate his vision now. And pretty much my buddy John Black had been sending me a bunch of synthwave playlists. We're like, let's just call it Doomfingo. Let's just go synthwave, which is nothing that we've ever done.

And we've kind of met in the middle with our own original sound. And it's been really cool over the past year figuring out what that is. And right now we've landed on vampire stripper music meets uh synthwave so who vampire stripper music so who is it like who what like who who inspires uh what is it synth what is it called synthwavewave. What were the bands that you were listening to? Let's see. So it kind of came from... I'm rambling. This is a bit of a mic hog.

It kind of came from... It's kind of based on... All right, I'm going full nerd here. But it's retro-futuristic, like what 80s musicians would think music would sound like in the future yeah heavily inspired by um like movies like blade runner um and i've been listening to and there's like a bunch of different sub genres there's like it's it's really cool it's like there's like dark synth there's like this whole bubblegum pop area it It was like, there's, I'm blanking right now,

but there's like Outrun, which was like kind of based on a video game, Outrun. That's like kind of meant to be like driving music. If you imagine just like a night drive, it's very trance-like. Keyboards are pretty dominant in synth music, right?

Yeah. Or synth goth or synth rock. Yeah. It's definitely, a lot of it's done, I think a lot of it's done digitally. How'd they do it in the 80s if it wasn't, that was when it was like the start of digital? That's the thing.

That's the thing. It's like not really, it's like a newer genre really. It is based on 80s music, but it's a newer genre. So it's like a new age tribute? Yeah. Yeah. And then you bring in like, so are you writing all the lyrics? Or like, how's that going?

How's the process? It's like, okay, I got this dope ass fucking synth part. Or I got this dope verse. Do they bring it to you to start singing them? Me and Ross do most of the writing when it comes to the lyrics. So we'll hit each other up on a regular. Like, hey, I got this. Hey, na-na-na-na-na-na-na.

A lot of voice memos. Yeah. I make some demos and logic, too. Phone calls at 3 o'clock in the morning. You got to listen to this. This is a great idea. 3 a.m., fucking drunk, fucking synth inspirations or what?

Yes, yes. I will say, I think some of our best songs we've written on, you know, drinking. When we're fucked up, yeah, pretty much.

So, it's fun. It's, you know, opens you up a little bit. So, we're, yeah.

Stay. But like, we've all been, yeah, Stay is a new one we're working on right now. It was a lot of tequila shots there.

But, yeah, I think we've, we'll kind of come up with an idea and then we all kind of bring it over to the poorhouse and jam it out live once everybody gets their hands on it. And we work on other projects. So sometimes whenever we're working on something else, that's when we'll talk about something else

that we can do for Doom Flamingo. Just like more songs. Ross's mind moves really fast. So he comes up with a lot of ideas fucking ad yes he is phone calls 100 yeah three o'clock in the goddamn morning what is it about charleston south carolina that's attracting all these musicians and like these really good musicians in the Southeast. It feels like Asheville and Charleston are where all these really, really great musicians

are kind of based. Is it cheap to live there? Or is it just like the city inspires all these musicians like a Nashville would and whatnot? Explain Charleston in a nutshell for me a nutshell i mean that sounds about right we could share this answer you want to share you want to share yeah uh my my background is uh gospel my whole side of my family like they're all into music they all play something sing something so with with me, it's deep rooted because my family plays music all the time. So it's been very comfortable in Charleston to create new music

just because it was so pleasant with my family. Yeah. And I moved away to Columbia, South Carolina, and then came back. And it's still growing. It's still growing. It's just this melting pot full of funk, gospel, soul, hip hop, fucking everything. It's just a mixture of everything. And then there's just a circulation of tourists that always come there all the time, and they support the music. And now it's a theme for Charleston.

Everybody's looking for music inside of Charleston. and it's it's a big variety i would say yeah jazz ranky tanky yeah um yeah say that there's a there's like the poorhouse and the rural american are definitely both really solid breeding grounds for original music there um i uh there's like poorhouse is just like a great scene it's like there's a there's a group of for original music there. Poorhouse is just a great scene. There's a group of probably about 50 musicians that we're all really tight with that just trade gigs and gig out all the time. We've been able to experiment on the deck out there a good bit,

just playing on a weekly basis sometimes. Also, I think it's just a good place. It's a cool place to go, man. I think people, musicians just like going there. It's by the beach. It's chill. Lots of good places to eat and drink. That's awesome.

I have this huge question about this band. How hard is it to develop a band when you're when you're bait when you're basically kind of i wouldn't say second fiddle but like how how hard is it to like develop the big dreams that you guys have when you're basically on the umphrey schedule is that tough um so it's been really awesome i first of all, shout out to Humphreys McGee and their whole operation. We're so grateful for them.

They've done a lot for us so far. And really kind of taking us under their wing a little bit and really been pushing us. And Jake came down and jammed with my other band one time. And I think Joel has the highest Doomfamingo attendance record. He's been at every show, which is awesome. But yeah, it's interesting. When we first started out, I was kind of wondering.

I was like, well, I wonder how much Ryan is going to be into this and how many gigs we're actually going to play. I am continually surprised at how much he wants to push us. And he's usually the first one at rehearsal ready to go. Because of how quickly things pulled together, we really had, there was a lot of unanswered questions. We just kind of, it's just working out where I'm for Ease McGee, I'm for McGee's, is playing somewhere.

I'm so high right now. Take that away from me. That there's so many opportunities for us to play around them that it doesn't seem like we're waiting for anything. Everything's moving pretty fast paced over the last years. It's crazy. We had no idea that we were going to play another gig. We had no idea that there were so many opportunities for us to be. Yeah, I think now we're on our 13th gig, and there's many more to come.

And we're doing a lot of after parties. Plus, we get to see Humphreys McGee all the time, which is awesome. I try to make a trip out of all these gigs, you know, and try to catch the band. If they're doing like a two-night run, like hang out or a three-night run at Red Rocks for the next couple days, gonna hang out. I came out last year for Red Rocks, too. Had a freaking blast. It was amazing.

It was dreams coming true. Man, we talk about this all the time. I'm always like, I didn't know anything about the festivals. I came from a different background. So when we started working on this project, we were like, oh, we're going to play summer camp. What the fuck is that? I don't know how great these things are. And then Ross talks my head off about it.

And then we show up and there's fucking balloons and titties and everything and i'm like oh my god this is great french broad yeah that was that was my first festival that was my first festival yeah it's a it's an awesome little small festival outside of ashville um that we went to go play and then we got to summer camp and it was just massive. I'm so excited about Electric Forest. I looked at a couple of pictures, and I was just like, I don't want to see anything else.

I just want to fucking melt my face off. That's what I want. I've definitely gone to a good bit of festivals over the years and gone to see a bunch of jam bands. But I feel like I'm pretty much, and TK has too, but the rest of everybody has never been very heavily involved in this scene. And so us going, or been to a lot of festivals, really. But it's kind of every, it feels like it. We're working musicians.

We were fucking busy playing weddings and other shit. Yeah, absolutely. Everybody in the band is working their ass off all the time. Your side gigs in the beginning was... Okay, let's talk about this. You guys were a wedding band.

Yeah. What kind of weddings were you doing? What songs were you playing? I got a lot of questions for you. Now that I know that you're a gospel background. Let's talk about this wedding band. Being a musician in Charleston, if you don't have a band

or if you can't travel regionally, it's probably a beautiful area. There's a lot of weddings. You can make a living just playing with different people on every single night like how much money can you make being a wedding man i mean like a lot right yeah i mean i've done weddings and i asked for a fucking shit ton of money like just because you know everyone's being generous because it's their fucking wedding

you know so well when you put a group together And it's more solid They know what to expect You can start charging more And there's so much music there There's so many people Coming there to get married They love the way it looks

They love the way it smells They love those fucking plantations Yeah They will phony up a dough For somebody to sing at their wedding So were you guys making a living Just being a wedding band Before you guys got the itch

To fucking do some synth porn music Wedding bands And side projects You know making original music With other people and just waiting Until the puzzle Can you make a living Just gigging in Charleston

Seven days a week or five days a week Absolutely Really there's a lot of gigs on Tuesdays and Wednesdays That's what a lot of those people do just gigging in Charleston seven days a week or five days a week. Really? There's a lot of gigs on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. That's what a lot of those people do. That's why we cross paths with so many musicians. That's why I love the fucking Poor House, dude. I feel like they are like the... They're one of my favorite venues

about developing artists and stuff. You probably know more about this than I do about... Let's talk about the Poor House and how how the nurturing of a venue can really help grow a music community do you think that's what happened with the poor house absolutely it is it's uh i call it the poor home sometimes because i'm there all the time and i try to stash my gear there so i don't have to load out as much as possible uh it's fine every nook and cranny to to yeah not have to carry my shit around all the

time but uh but is it like is it are you guys still broke like is it do you have other jobs or can you make music like what i'm trying to get at is, is there an opportunity for musicians to make a living if they say, God forbid they have kids? Not God forbid. For me, God forbid if they have kids. Or if you have kids, if you're married, or you have a situation where you can't travel as much, maybe you have old parents that are sick

and you can't go out as much. But can you really make a living being a musician in a city yeah i think definitely in charleston i think there's plenty of gigs to be had and and honestly the yeah especially charleston and the and you know the wedding the wedding thing definitely helps for people to have that kind of side hustle and be able to work on their original music in the meantime i think that's the end goal is to is to work like at the at the beginning of the day i think we're all making a living playing music and we're sort of like the end goal is to migrate to just doing this all the time you know and have our own other projects that we're making successful but there there is there's definitely a lot of people

a lot of full-time musicians in charleston and um lots of gigs to be had so yeah yeah and i'm really grateful that we have all this work at home to be able to go out and do stuff like this where we're kind of just getting on our feet, but I am so pumped that it's growing this fast. Dude, it's fucking awesome, man. Because like, you know, especially being like, this is so crazy to me. Like my guitar player has a band called Evil Dave. And it's like JJ Gray and Mo Fro and just all these side things.

And like, he really likes it. And it's like, it's just, and I know how hard I've worked these guys. So to see Ryan wanting to take the extra initiative and put you on all the Umphrey stuff and fly to fucking Electric Forest just for Doom and to see this process, it must pump you guys up that this is a real fucking band now, right?

Yeah, it's incredible. Before I was in a band with Ryan, I'm an Umphreys McGee fan. This is crazy, right? One of your idols is in your band. He'll be like, oh, fuck this guy. Seriously,

one of your idols is in your band. When he talks, does everyone just shut the fuck up? And just like, all right, well, I think we should be here on this part. Because you're a great musician, but if my idol was in my band, I did a recording session with Vince Herman from Leftover Salmon. He's one of my idols. One thing I took from it was

I didn't give any advice. You're afraid to counter construct the advice that your idol has given you in a sense. Is it hard to step up and say, hey, Ryan, that sounds like shit.

Shut him up. I was just thinking, maybe we could just... How do you approach it? How do you talk to Ryan? How do you tell him he sounds like shit? I would never do that because the man's solid.

He's pro as fuck. He's logged his van hours, and that band is like they've lived. They know how to do it. They're all pro, and they've all done it the right way, and they've worked really hard at what they do. If you haven't seen the Reel to Reel documentary about Humphreys and their whole operation, it's really cool like i one thing i remember from that that i really loved is when they would get in the van they would

they would all listen back to the show the night before and just like clap their hands and it was like all right now it's go time we're in we're listening shut up that was cool thanks for making me watch that it was really cool, man. To answer your question, we 100% value every piece of advice that Ryan would give us. We're stoked to have him give that advice.

You got like the godfather of fucking jam bass funk in your band, dude. Making synth porno music, dude. This is why I fucking love Ryan. Because when you're a genuine guy or a genuine person, he wants you in your camp.

He wants to be part of the thing. Like, I, you know, like, Ryan never listened to my music live. We just had a great conversation. And he's just, and he's so fucking supportive when he believes in something So like

For you to have all these different things Like you have a manager Like I was talking to your manager last night Oh my god For fucking Hank dude Hank is so funny dude Like

Hank Dude he fucking loves your band So much man Yeah But like you need guys in your corner, especially like, like you guys have played 13 shows and you have an in-ear monitor system. Yeah. Like, you know how unheard of that fucking is, dude?

Thanks, Mike. Yeah. But I'm serious. Like they want to make you become a pro. Yeah. You have pros in your band. So does it make you step you're like it's like shit or get off the or what is that yeah you know it's like yeah i think like i've been

i've been in a lot of bands i've logged a lot of van hours and and toured a lot and you toured a lot yeah like what like like like shitty tours where it's yes you made $100 a night and you're eating ramen for two months? Yes. So talk about those years. Well, so I've done – they were fun. Some of them were fun. Some of it got really weird. Some of it got dark at times.

Like what's weird? What's dark to you? You know, band drama. Yeah. Like what's typical band drama? Fighting about what um a lot of uh there was definitely here we go there was definitely i think uh i feel like when you're out on the road and it's easy to you know get wrapped up and drinking a lot you know that's that's a big thing i feel like that yeah. Yeah, that's a root of a lot of band drama.

Especially when you're broke and you're drinking. You're like, I didn't make any money. Just at least get me drunk here. But I feel like going back to... Talk that shit. This is a safe space. Going back to what we're doing now and we have the whole in-ear monitor system i think you know i like our other manager rusty is we've toured together in the past

too and no ac and sweating our ass off it's like all right guys like let's do it right this time let's do it right let's get everything we need so rusty's been your manager he and all your so he's like your fucking pimp dude no he's not been my manager forever. No, no, no, no. He was the bass player. Oh, really? Yeah, in another band, Soul Driven Train. Oh, I need to talk about that.

Yeah, but he's now managing us, him and Hank. Hold on, the guy that you guys used to have, I'm touching your shoulder. That's okay. Hey, we're just getting to know each other. The guy that in the band that you guys were broke with and like fought and like god no no no no not that one that's a that's a different one but rusty rusty and i toured a band together called solar and train who were that that was the band that i definitely like cut my teeth with on the road and they were like this is how you be a touring

musician you know and it was really cool so to have like rusty now managing us is really cool it's like everything coming full circle you know it's it's awesome and and now like we're all we we set out to do this crazy like we're like we're gonna be synth wave and we're like we're not we're not at the core we're all like improvisational musicians that aren't synth wavers at all. So we're like meeting in the, meeting in the middle of like, it's like, but like, it's seeing the evolution of all this has been so crazy. It's like,

I'm now in a band with all my best friends that I've been like playing the poor house deck with and like fricking Commodore. Oh, you think it's going to cry, dude. I know I'm going to grill you here pretty soon. Don't think like you're, I don't know, but I want to talk about this. I want to talk going to grill you here pretty soon. Don't think like you're, I don't know,

but I want to talk about this. I want to talk about this. Like, um, living on this fucking road, you know, you've been doing this thing, you know,

you've been making a hundred dollars a night. You had fights with your bands and stuff. Do they, those guys have angst that now that you're playing bigger shows and stuff. And like, do you think like they're jealous of you and what you're doing right now? Not at all. Man, I think if you spend enough time in a van with someone,

eventually you're going to hate the way they breathe. We're going to drink some more tequila so I get the real answer here. But I think I have a good i have a good relationship with everybody in my past right yeah and i'm grateful for that so tell me about the times when you didn't have a great relationship with people in your past oh man like what like in bands like i fight with my band all the time doesn't mean i'm gonna fucking break up with them but like what was the worst breakup Or where you thought like Fuck this

I do not want to do this anymore These guys are Blah blah blah Whatever situation is Broken down on the side of the road With a guitar player In a three point stance Threatening my life

Three point stance Like he's about to wrestle you? Yeah like I'm not even going to say Any names or bands don't say it but like what happened um what triggered it uh well i think it was a talk about a girl at the time and then you know i'm telling you dude but so let's focus on the positive here no no i want to. This is about bands.

Most people who listen to this podcast, a lot of them are bands. A lot of them are fighting the good fight. A lot of people... I think if you're in that situation and you're fighting with someone and you're in an argument on the road, you got to realize that this is going to pass and eventually you're going to be cool and it's

easy to like pop off and make mistakes and be irrational but you just got to like breathe and remember that we're on the road making music and it's uh did you guys break up because you forgot to breathe uh no uh we broke up we we this uh dang this is interesting you wanted to be on this show uh we uh one of my old bands broke up just because i think we we we put a lot of money into a vehicle that was uh i think we were all just like... We just didn't know what we were doing out on the road. Stay the fuck in here, dude.

I bought like a 1980 tour bus. Yeah. And I spent so much money on that fucking thing. I just... It made me resent why I wanted to do this. It's like,

why didn't I just get a van? Or why didn't we just get a van and do that? Why do you think we do that? Because we want to be rock stars so quickly? Because we want to be comfortable, I guess. But like, our minds aren't comfortable. Maybe our fucking backs feel a little better.

But like, when we have that big payment. Seems like a good idea at the time. You're like, we're going to gut it and then put all of our gear in the back and we'll have like a little area to lay down right here, you know. Why do you think that is? You think because people, this goes back to like celebrities and whatnot. Do you think people are just want to be these people so bad, like with the big tour bus and don't realize all the other work that we have to do?

Like we have to fucking fight in this fucking E350 van. We have to fucking, you you know hate our guitar player fucking my girlfriend or whatever it is that's going on in our situation you know what i'm saying like you have to do that in a band to grow right right to like really like bond as brothers like but then there's like these little pockets of like the greatest moments of your life where you're like i'm on like Highway 1 in California. I would have never come here if I didn't just go out on this venture. I feel like it's the best way

to live in the moment. What was your greatest moment? Touring. Broke. Fucking angry. Not making any money. What was the greatest moment? I don't know. I'm going to be corny right now and just say that all of this right now is the greatest moment i don't know i'm gonna be corny right now and just say that like all of this right now is the is the greatest moment you know i'm like i saw it with you guys with that

big ass crowd yeah we're gonna talk about the therapy session with you girl but like seriously like i'm pete we're peaking every day we're just like all so pumped right now. So what's the game plan, though? How do you maintain this situation full time? Because you can't make a living just doing 13 shows in a year. We all have our gigs at home and inside. But what's the vision for the band to get that past 13 gigs a year or 20 gigs a year, to get it to 100 gigs a year or 20 gigs a year, like to get it to 100 gigs a year. Is that the game plan or no?

I mean, I think, you know, obviously it's as much as Ryan wants to do because he's got an awesome family and he's got to put in time for that and he's putting in time for Humphries. But I think the idea is to take it as far as we can And do as much as we can Is it about the songs then? Like you guys are You know is it Like if it's not about the touring business

Then it's really about Trying to make songs that are timeless Or songs that resonate with everybody right? Yeah absolutely So what's your process in that? In making music? No like process in like How you're structuring your process in that? In making music? Process in how you're structuring your business knowing that you're playing second fiddle to a band

that is successful and has 50 shows a year that you already know they're going to play 50 shows a year. And you have a bass player in your band that is... This is his second project that he fucking loves because I've talked to him. Every time I talk to him about it, he's fucking smiling from ear to ear. Like, he loves this. It really does.

It's awesome. I've talked to him about it three times. And we talk about Doom Flamingo, dude. Really, it's really special. So, like, as, like, I don't know, maybe this is a question for your manager, but, like, as, like, for you a question for your manager but like as like for you yeah like how do you keep like had like what's your vision on the next 10 years for doom flamingo well it's only been a year so far so we're still trying to figure it out but i would love to five

years five years uh i don't know i would love to just make music that resonates with people and hopefully... I love horror movies and whatnot. I would love for us to make some of that shit. Oh, that's a great fucking idea. What if you became the Wolfpack of the synth porn music scene? You know what I'm saying? That would be dope.

That sounds great. Yeah, yeah. It is halftime at the Andy Fresco interview hour. Daddy, can I go out tonight? George, just throw in the party. What are you talking about? I'm trying to sing a song here. Oh, my friends won't be there.

You stay home, you stay zen. Like me, there's Corona everywhere. When the sun goes down, the tide goes here. All my friends will be there. You stay home, you stay zen. Like me, there's Corona everywhere. When the sun goes down, the tide goes... All my friends go out. You better stay at home or you're gonna make me mad. Don't be so extra, Dad. I'm going out tonight. You're not going anywhere.

What protection will you bring? A mask will rip my hair and I got a new fit. I'm having a fit. You better stay at home and that's the last of it. But it's gonna be fire I'll give you fire I highly need to go I'll strap you to the air code Dad, you're cancelled

Your date is cancelled Staying home tonight Till broad daylight Okay, boomer Boomer? I'm no boomer I'm Generation X Stay home

Watch MTV You're so basic Play a comedy game Boomer I'll give you boomer Here and here I'm Generation X. Stay home. Watch MTV. You're so amazing. Play it from another day. Boomer. I'll give you boomer. Here and here. I hate you, Zen. I hate this fucking lockdown.

I love you, fucking Zen. Kanika, it's time. I'm ready for you. Okay. I have a lot of questions. Okay. Growing up gospel, growing up this religious... You're religious, right?

Yeah. Your parents were pretty strict? Not really. When did you start taking drugs? Actually, in my 20s. 20s. So that's pretty later. Yeah, it was later.

I didn't take drugs until I was in my 20s as well. So was growing up this strict? Was it strict in high school, middle middle school elementary school for you or it was funny it was strict with my mom and my dad lived in texas so uh with my dad it was a little looser so did you share your time with your parents yeah yeah i did so who's so your mom so how does your mom feel with blue hair pink sunglasses My mom is my biggest supporter. That's dope. She's like, where's my doom flamingo t-shirt?

Did she feel like, because this jam scene is a little different than the gospel scene. It is. But my mom and my dad, when they were together, they listened to a lot of music. They got drunk, high, whatever, together. Oh, really? Yeah, high, whatever, together. Oh, really? Yeah, they had vinyls. And when I got a little bit older, I would start peeling through my dad's vinyls and listening to Prince and everything else. Did you ever catch him, like, smoking pot or anything?

My dad, I think I caught him a couple of times. His brothers and sisters, they would all hang out together in the garage and all the kids would be, you know, having fun. And my dad would come out there and like, what the fuck is that smell in there? What are you guys doing in there? Nothing, girl. Go on out there. Go jump on the trampoline or something.

Oh, so you were going in there being nosy. Yeah, I was trying to be nosy a little bit. Why were you being nosy? Did you want to have a better relationship with your dad? I was being nosy because there was music playing in there that he didn't play whenever we were hanging out. Like whenever it was me and my dad and my stepmom, when we're chilling in the living room they didn't play the same music they played when they were playing in the garage so it wasn't what they were doing

and then i was like i would hear i don't know so you're basically seeing the inner works of how your dad and mom's relationship is yeah so with that being said is that how you see your life in a in this way of like what was the choice to like say hey i'm gonna join a synth fucking rock band like from gospel like you know like you did all these weddings you probably did a bunch of cover bands and stuff and say hey i want to be original artists i want to be me. What was that moment like for you? When I cover music, I always come from an original place. I try to learn it the way that they sing it and try to figure out what message they had. And then I put my own twist to it. The last time that I was on stage with Unfreeze, I made myself stay really close to the form of what the song was because I like to venture out and move things around. So listening to covering music just made me get ready for my original.

I knew I was going to want to write something myself. When I was little, I used to make these little tapes of like. You've always been singing yeah yeah always okay since i was you've always been everyone's fucking pumped you up you've always been a good singer no you know i like i said my my uh mom's side of the family they're all musicians they were fucking awesome they're still fucking awesome they toured spain they they travel all over the place galvin calvin baxter plays with Ranky Tanky. Okay, this is making more sense to me. So you always had this

hunger to be better than your family. What the fuck are you doing right now? I'm just trying to ask. I knew that music around us was good. It brought our family together.

And I liked exploring that. It wasn't a competition because whenever it was time for someone to take a solo or do something in front of the rest of the family, I wasn't the one to do it. Why? I don't know. I was very timid when I was younger. Your jams, They're not like Typical jam band because you have a singer

And so like you have actual songs So like Is there a plan to like try to like sell these songs To like movies Or like Oh we always joke We joke about like when we're making a song Like oh this one is dedicated to

Yeah like blade one of our songs that was totally uh texas train sunrise yeah that's awesome we're kind of like we're kind of i'll take both i'm taking both my double fisting right now uh there might be some feedback going on but uh we uh but yeah we're like i'm totally writing from a we're totally writing from a cinematic perspective and it's like kind of cool it's like we got like we're like I'm totally writing from a we're totally writing from a cinematic perspective and it's like kind of cool it's like

we got like we're making like a comic book so we're like trying to like we're like writing outside of ourselves which is like

really fun fuck I almost forgot about that yeah it's like it's like obviously ourselves are gonna be

injected into it and something that we're really passionate about but that was my sorry that's just it you know what let's just we don't need glasses we're going from the bottle now but i

think uh yeah we're like we're all riding outside of ourselves and from like like we're like blade is totally texas chainsaw massacre inspired and um i was like when i wrote runaway that was like stephen king inspired and um just like i don't know it's really fun it's something it's we're like when I wrote Runaway, that was like Stephen King inspired. And, um, just like, I don't know. It's really fun. It's something it's, it,

we're all trying something new with this. Like Mike's never had a pedal board, you know? And it's like to see him over there and he's like playing keys now. He's never played keys in a band. He's like, we're all like figuring out as we go. And you're exactly right.

Like that is the really cool part about this. It's like, it's something that is completely fresh. this it's like it's something that is completely fresh and it's like it's it is something that is outside of our wheelhouse and because of that i think some some cool music is happening i think we all have we all have something really strong that we bring to the table your your background and understanding and synthwave is like really helpful and TK and his style your understanding

and synth wave is I fucking love you Tadika this is what I'm talking about but this is how a band is successful when everyone loves each other man right yeah I would say 90% of why I want this band to succeed is so they can hear her voice cause

that thing is special you know what I mean people need to succeed is so they can hear her voice because that thing is special. It is special. People need to hear that. Your voice is beautiful. I was not expecting that. Now, how do we fine-tune good into unstoppable? And that's what I'm thinking in anything. If it's whatever you want to do. If you want to write, you want to perform live,

you want to fucking write songs from movies, How do we fine tune and fine tune things? I think it's the amount of intention that I put in the moments before. I noticed there's a couple of things that I write down and tell myself like, oh, well, this time I gave myself some quiet time and just meditate, just quiet sounds, or just listening to the music over and over meditate, just quiet sounds, or just listening to the music over and over again, or just listening to something completely different, but just putting some thought into what do I need to do to prepare myself

before I get on the stage again? What is it that I'm trying to get across to everyone? What do you... I hear a lot of girls saying, you make me feel strong. Yeah, you're fucking powerful. You feel fucking women. That's what I'm saying.

This is what I'm saying, Tanika. You got this aura. Tanika? It's not Tanika? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We're just getting to know each other. Tanika.

I've been saying Tanika. I know you. Hey, Chris. Don't block any of that out. Don't edit it. This is the new relationship. Let people know that I don't know Tanika's out. Don't edit it. This is the new relationship. Let people know this. I don't know Kanika's name.

Okay. But seriously, hey, Ross. No, really. It's hard for me to open up to new friends, especially in this part of my career where it's like, we're in this mindset,

no new friend club, no new friend club. But, you know, like, sometimes you just gotta open up. Like, I didn't want to have new friends and I'm friends and I got to get to know every you guys and I got to see you guys being,

you guys are actually genuine fucking people and you guys care about each other and like, I see you guys being you guys are actually genuine fucking people and you guys care about each other and like I could see the relationship you have with the musicians in Charleston and I am 100% involved now with you guys and

being your friends and being whatever you need me to be and I just think you guys are doing something very special. And to be only 13 shows under your belt and to have this type of feel and have this type of style is just very exciting to me because you guys are really good,

and it's different, and it's still familiar, and you guys have all the components to really take it to the next level. And I'm just, I'm happy to be your friend. So thank you for being cool and thanks for accepting me into fucking Charleston's weird ass town. Cause like, you know,

like I've always wanted to be accepted in the Southeast because I feel like they get me more than like a lot of people do. And to see that, um, to have you on the show today, it just makes me feel like I was right about that hypothesis. So thank you,

Charleston for fucking keeping live music alive. Thank you. Thank you, Dune Flamingo for keeping synth porn, fucking rock fantasy alive. I need it. But let's, well, let's end the show with this.

what is the, what is the dream? Like, what do you want to be? I need it. But let's end the show with this. What is the dream? Like, what do you want to be when you see yourself 85, hopefully 105 or 115, when you're on your deathbeds, what do you want to be remembered by? I got this one. Okay, the dream is right now. I'm going to see humphries mcgee for the next three days my mom's coming tomorrow it's gonna be awesome uh i i the one thing i do love about uh this scene and is it it feels like community and a family and I feel like to see our Doom family building and to have

a community like a band like Humphreys McGee has would be very special. I feel like we're just our friends and our family are growing through this band and it's awesome. And that I think to create a sense of community around

music, especially our music, that would be really nice, is a dream of mine. And we're doing it right now. We're living the dream. We're living the dream. Yeah, Ross. Are you coming to Red Rocks, by the way? What, tonight?

Yeah. I wasn't going to go with anybody, but if I go with you guys, I'm not going by myself. Yeah. Okay. Yeah? Can I get in?

Do you know a guy? We got a little connection. Okay. Maybe I'll consider that. What about you, Tanika? Or Kanika? God, did it a fucking game.

Let's have a friend named Tanisha. All right, Kanika, what do you got? I just want to keep biting off large chunks of expansion and Wow, I'm going to steal

that lyric, actually. This is the part where I know that I don't overthink life because I just want to be able to get to 85 and 90 and look through a photo album or click through whatever the fuck they're going to make next.

Put a little chip on my forehead and look at the memories of what it is that we created because that's just going to remind me of how awesome life is. Do you think the found youth is not overthinking? I think it is. Hank? Fucking Hank?

Hank? That's it. I mean, Hank moves a mile a minute, and I swear he's the youngest kid ever. I feel like, I mean, we're all overthinking it. But I do, I think sometimes overthinking can just be excitement too. That can be a part of the fountain of youth as well. Excitement.

What do you got, Kanika? I think it's true. Just not overthinking it. That's the tap don't overthink it like we didn't know what we were gonna where we get it getting ourselves into when we first started the project like we couldn't overthink it because we didn't know the fuck was gonna happen we had a we had a gig to play we had to figure it out yeah but like the moment how did you feel when we're inside of the studio that was not overthinking it immediately i saw

uh everybody that's when i saw everybody overthinking everybody sat down and they were like holy shit we got to do this we got to do this we got to we got to get ourselves ready for what's getting ready to happen yeah i uh I think I remember we were playing at the four house one time and I was definitely overthinking it. And it was just like after, you know, probably five straight gigs and just trying to figure out what was going on. And Ryan came up to me.

He's like, Hey man, doesn't matter. Tomorrow's going to be another day. We're going to have plenty more gigs. It's like, and I've kind of thought about that like a good bit on the uh on the stage as well it's like hey this isn't the last gig it's like

sometimes things might be going wrong or it's not overthinking it you know yeah it's not the end of the world man just just get in there that's why i like him that's why i like ryan guys keep kicking ass yeah um keep fighting the good fight i hope um kanika i hope you fucking just fucking own this shit don't overthink it you're fuck you you're you got it you guys got it i'm really proud to be your friends and thanks for uh um being on the show really means a lot thank you you, man. I was going to get fucked up at red rocks. Fuck it. I'll go. Even when it's going to rain. No,

I'm smiling. I was having a really shitty morning. I was like, I got texts from my mom. Like, are you okay? Like everything. Okay. I'm like,

Oh God. Some days you wake up just fucking feeling like shit. You know, like maybe it's the altitude. This, this city. Hey man, dehydration.

We're just going to go to red rocks. Have a good time. Let's stop dehydration. Don't overthink it. We're just going to go to Red Rocks and have a good time. Let's stop overthinking. We'll talk after Red Rocks. Thanks for being on the show, guys. Thank you, man. I love you guys. Later. Thank you.

Now, a message from the UN. Rock and roll ain't pretty, but it's pretty fucking cool. Some days on the road might seem shitty, and you end up a drunken fool. Wow. What an interview. Thank you, Doom Flamingo. Thank you, Kanika. Thank you, Ross. Thank you, Stasic. The whole gang. I loved it. I love getting to know bands. I love getting to see how the driving bands, you know,

because, you know, in the beginning, we ain't making shit for money. And it's all about how badly you want it and how badly you want to make this a part of your life. And they're adjusting through the Humphreys schedule. And for them to keep going is just fucking honorable. And so shout out to Doom and shout out to Doom, the people. Yeah, way to go, boys and girls. That's it, y'all.

It's Tuesday today. So I want you to remember something. Remember when you're going through this week, how grateful you are to be alive. I want you to write that. You know what I've been doing with Anders Osborne? He text messages me every day now in the morning. And he tells me what he's grateful for in the morning.

And I got to tell him what's grateful, what I'm grateful for. And it's been really helping me appreciate the moment. And it's really helping me appreciate the person I'm becoming. I never used to think about things like that. I used to be so fucking selfish and just live my life and just fucking, wow, I'm staying on the road. I'm getting drunk.

I'm flirting with your girlfriend, whatever. I'm like, it's not me anymore, it's past. So that happened. And you also shouldn't be ashamed of your past. It makes you who you are now. So don't beat yourself up for the person you were yesterday. And don't beat yourself up for trying to be perfect, you know, I know you're trying to be a better person today, but sometimes we fuck up and, you know, that's okay, just be patient with yourself, know when you fuck up and say,

I won't do that again, and just be sensitive towards your mind, You know, we're all healing. We're all healing from something. We're all healing to be better people. We're all healing from past traumas or future traumas. You know, we're all just trying to figure out. And now with this new type of life where we can't just do everything we want, go fucking wild, like wild dogs go crazy through the streets. We can't do that.

We got to start thinking about that. Thinking about our loved ones. Did you text your mom on Sunday for Mother's Day? Did you tell her you love her? Tell her thank you for you to come out of her vagina or her stomach. I don't know how C-sections work. I think they cut the stomach.

That shit freaks me out. I got baby foot. It'd be heavy. On that note, wear condoms, like I always say, but tell your mom you love her. Even if she might be a bitch, you haven't talked to her in a few years, shoot her a text. Hey, mom, thinking about you. Happy Mother's Day. Because older people are lonely at this point. I talk to my parents. My mom can't stand this fucking quarantine. She's going nuts. It's about loneliness.

It's about being stuck with her husband or something. You've been together for 40 years. And when they go to work or whatever, this is your time to go chill out. Go fucking watch Oprah or run around, drive around, and get some air on your head and shit. So a lot of people can't do that. A lot of people haven't really thought about who they are.

You wake up one day and you're seven years old, and you forgot that you have feelings too. So just be patient with people. A lot of people are figuring out who they are through this thing. I mean, two months by yourself. Some people are alone in this. I know a friend who got stuck in Europe and they can't come home. They've been quarantined for two months in town.

They've never been in just because they had to do a business retreat. You know, think about how fortunate you are. You're at home. You got some friends. FaceTime. You got YouPorn gave you a free premium subscription. Whatever is getting you by. Survive in advance.

Survive in advance. Survive in advance. All right, guys. That's it. Keeping it short and sweet. Next week, we got Shaky Graves on the episode. Look at us. I'm going to give myself a round of applause. Shout out to Schwartz.

Shout out to Schwartz. Shout out to everyone helping with the podcast. Joe Angel Howe, Chris Lorenz, Doloff Cohen, Danny Zagair, the whole gang. We're all in this together. But we got shaky grades. I got a bunch of big ones. I'm not going to tell you.

We're going to keep it surprised. So we can, you know, just in case this thing goes through the summer, at least we have some stuff to look forward to. So next week, shaky grades, and I won't tell you what's going on. But I'm going to just keep on making podcasts, keep on making shit shows, keep on doing the dance part. Those are my three things now. I think I'm hosting summer camp too.

I'm hosting the summer camp live stream on May 22nd through 23rd and 24th. Fourteeners, been so generous. It's a weed company out of Boulder who are badass. And they're just super sweet people. And they've been getting me high. They have this weed called Kosher Kush,

which is fucking awesome. We smoke it every Friday. That's our Shabbat. We've been having Shabbat. That's also the thing I was going to say. Build schedules inside your quarantine. I do a Friday Shabbat with my friends.

Dolav and Danny cook a bomb ass meal. We bring up, bring our homie Kunj who's been on the show and Jeremy, all the Jews, the Denver Jews. We come in and we, we talk, we play board games. We talk about what we're thankful for. And then Saturday I'm doing a dance party. And then we have a little after party dance party with just all dudes. It was just so weird because there's like 50,000, 100,000 people watching these live streams. And then you get all fucking pumped up. Yeah, you're just playing like Madison Square Garden. And then all of a sudden you get off the stream and all of a sudden you're just with your dudes.

And it's like an after party and you're playing cards and shit. What the fuck just happened? It's surreal. These live streams are weird. So be patient with us. We're figuring out how to interact with all the fans. My Saturday shows are kicking ass. Just seeing all my fans just dancing and wearing afros

and just dancing with me and bringing their dogs in there. It's a lot of fun. If you haven't done the Saturday show, you should go check it out because it is so fun. I saw some backstage footage. It's me in a fucking kitchen, but you know what I was talking about.

Footage that Danny and Dolav just posted. I look like a fucking crazy person just dancing in front of my screen. For the common good. It's for the people. It's for you. We're here together. I'm here for you. I know you're here for me. I feel the support, so thank you so much. We're in this together.

I love you. Stay strong out there. Tell your parents you love them, even if you fucking hate them. I love my parents. I got to say that just in case my mom overanalyzes this. I love my parents. But some people don't like their parents. And you need to just take a deep breath and start saying you're sorry

even if you didn't do anything fucking wrong. Let's all get through this. Let's all survive and advance and wear condoms. A lot of people, now the people, the kids are popping out. I see it. I feel it. It's like,

it's going to be the baby boomers all over again. We're going to be 80 and our grandkids are going to call us boomers for fucking just coming whenever we wanted through this quarantine. But I am getting, I haven't,

I'm not going to talk about that. Ladies and gentlemen, have a great day. Have a great night and I'll catch you Tuesday. Arno, give us something sweet. Give us something nice

and I will talk to you guys very, very soon. You tuned in to the third season of Slick Talkings at Andy Fresco's World Saving Podcast.

Thank you for listening to episode 84, produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angelou and Chris Lawrence. Please subscribe and rate the show on iTunes and Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon. For more info on the show, please head to Instagram at worldsavingpodcast. For more info on the blog and tour dates, head to andyfresco.com. And the new album, Keep On Keepin' On, it's out. I will keep repeating that. There is an online shit show on Thursdays, and there are occasional

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And it's the middle of the night. Andy gets carried away dancing through the night and forgets to send in his requests on time. I grant him that life has turned lopsided and we all tend to slide off far too easy. I left next door to a surgery assistant and I don't want to wake him up shouting, so

the silly song I will try to finish in the morning. We all might need the help of a well rested hospital worker one day, and this kind is very kind actually. This kind is known to have very sharp knives. Stay safe, don't play with knives or syringes and we will see you next week.