Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 95: Larkin Poe

Episode Date: August 11, 2020

Andy gets a call from his distressed manager, Schwartz: Is he really gonna eat EVERYTHING the internet tells him to during this upcoming live stream? (Tickets available now!) On the Interview Hour we ...welcome blues rockers, Rebecca and Megan Lovell from Larkin Poe! Andy picks the sisters' brains on how it was coming up as women in the blues world and what's on the horizon for this dynamic duo. Ahri ponders alternate predilections and Shawn covers a syrupy road favorite. This is EP 95. Check out our upcoming livestream Aug 21st & 22nd! Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new album, "Keep On Keepin' On" on iTunes Spotify  Keep up with Larkin Poe www.larkinpoe.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Brian Schwartz Ahri Findling Shawn Eckels  Arno Bakker 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Schwartz. I hope you're well. I hope you had a good weekend. I'm a little concerned about you messaging or somehow letting some fans know that they could choose the types of drugs you're going to be doing during your interactive concerts. It's a little much. Please don't allude to your fans being able to direct you as to what you imbibe or ingest during the show.
Starting point is 00:00:36 It's a little ridiculous and childish. Call me and we'll go through it. Alright? And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's everyone doing today? How's your week? It's you still surviving and advancing. That's all we have to think about. Survive and advance. You know what time it is. You better start surviving. You better start advancing. You better keep your mind straight. Eat the vegetables. If you're going to do drugs, water. Fucking water, baby. I'm pumped up this week. I had a little pity party for a little bit every time I think about my gigs. And then I realized, you know, I'm alive. I'm focused. I get time to sit down and with my thoughts. And, um, I realized, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:32 before we start the show, I'll do a little something. Um, I realized that, uh, you know, we forget to love ourselves because we always think about others. And we always think about others and we always think about how your business is and your fucking relationships and your everything. And we forget about ourselves sometimes. So I just want you to take this time to figure out all the insecurities you have and how we could fix them. If we have to up front,
Starting point is 00:02:01 make them up front with our mental capacity, fucking do it. I know it's going to be hard and uncomfortable at first, but we need to address our insecurities and we need to be okay with them because, like I said, life's short. You don't want to take your insecurities to the grave. Try to figure out ways to improve yourself. Try to figure out ways to make sure that you're living in the present. Insecurities come from the past or the future. If we could stay present through this fucking crazy time, then we could fucking beat anything. This is really a test on how strong we are inside.
Starting point is 00:02:46 So I know you got it in you. Fucking stay powerful. Stay strong. We're going to fuck shit up. We got a great show for you ahead of us. Larkin Poe. I met these girls on the rock boat and they're badass. Seeing great sisters.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Great story. So we got a great interview with the girls or the women. They're married and fucking badass and living in Nashville. It's fucking cool. And I'm super excited. They got a Grammy nomination, which is fucking tight. Shout out to you, Larkin Poe. Keeping the blues
Starting point is 00:03:19 alive. I love it. But yeah, I got a lot of things going on. Shit show's kicking um i've been taking these camu labs cbds second week in a row fucking love them we're gonna get uh we're gonna get the scientist on on the show and to discuss all the things regarding uh camu and all cbd and how important um camu is you know because it's true. I mean, we got to really start digging into ourselves and, uh, you know, we just have to start focusing on stuff to keep our brains. Well, this stuff is crazy. Good wellness products that are good for
Starting point is 00:04:00 you. Good for the planet. No GMOs. It's vegan. It's just badass stuff. You should check it out. Go to camulabs.com. Go grab some CBD. We're going to give out some stuff on the shit show. They gave me a big box of it. So mix it with a little bit of 14 or weed. If you're in the Colorado area, go head out to Boulder.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Get some weed. Go to Camu. They're Colorado too. Get some CBD, get dosed up in the love that, uh, the canvas plant could give us. And if you don't like psychoactive stuff, just do the CBD. But great thing about Fortiner, it's, it's all organic. It's all fresh. It's all just great weed. I'm not into the psychoactive weed. So like this, I've been doing like a, been smoking a joint of this.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's called Wookfoot weed. I love that because DJ Sleepy's dog's name is Wookie. So I love thinking about Wookie when I'm smoking a little joint and then I'll take some droplets of the camo and it's sick and I'm feeling good. I feel better. I wake up, you know, not as foggy. You know, sometimes when I smoke too much weed, I'm like, oh, fuck, I don't want to work. This is good stuff. So go check out Camo Labs and go grab some stuff. And if you like it, tell me how you feel about it. Because we need balance.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Who doesn't these days? I just started talking to this new immunity booster every morning called Vitality. And it has a lot of good stuff to keep me healthy and going all day. So just check out camulabs.com. Check out 14er, Boulder 14er, and go grab some cannabis and whatnot. And if you can't sleep, that's also good. They got this sleeping elixir that's pretty dope and it makes you dream and stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So go check out Camu Labs. Go check out 14er. Get into the groove. But ladies and gentlemen, we got a lot of things brewing. Like I said, I'm doing the virtual festival with the band. the band's flying in town, August 21st, 22nd. Um, they're going to be here for a week. Everyone's getting COVID tests, not bringing COVID into Denver. Um, you hear that boys do not bring the COVID into my house. So get tests. They're going to get tests.
Starting point is 00:06:26 into my house. So get tests. They're going to get tests. And we're going to do this the right way, especially with everyone flying and stuff. So we got the band coming in town. We're doing 100% interactive festival or show two nights, three hours of music each night where the audience picks exactly the adventure you want us to go on. So if you want us to take fucking 10 shots of Jameson before we even play, fine. But if you want good music, just slowly get us into the drunkness like you do at the shows. You just keep putting shots on my piano. But it's going to be kind of the same thing. Or if you want us to take some mushrooms, just say, hey, Frasco, take a microdose. Let's hear the new songs in its entirety. Let's play good music. So it's all up to you, y'all. If you want to see a fucking shit show,
Starting point is 00:07:15 go right ahead. Fucking vote away. It's going to be all through polling. So if you want to hear a song that we haven't played in 10 years, well, that's what we're going to play. So we're going to be ready for you, prepared like fucking eye of the tiger. This band's going to be ready for you, America and Europe, because what's the point? If you got the band here, we're going to fuck shit up.
Starting point is 00:07:37 All right. But ladies and gentlemen, we got that going on. We got the shit show. Next week, we got, who do we have next week? Oh, Ben Jaffe from Preservation Hall. And we have Devin Allman.
Starting point is 00:07:51 So he wanted to be on the shit show. I'm like, fuck yeah, bring it on, Devin. So we got a great lineup. Dance party continues in September. So I got my weekends. I'm still going out. My homies Sarah and Coons, it's Sarah's birthday, so we're going to Breckenridge.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I'm going to go get a little fucking toasty. But yes, ladies and gentlemen, back to the show ahead. Larkin Poe's on it. We got a fun one for you. We're going to get it rocking. Are you ready? Because it's going down. Another week.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Another week with Frasco. Thank you so much for supporting us. And go grab your tickets to the virtual fest. This is the only way I could pay the band. You know how it is. I'm doing my fucking live streams and the podcast. Make a little bit of dough at least to survive. But this virtual festival is to help me pay the band throughout the fall. So go buy
Starting point is 00:08:47 tickets. I think it's 10 bucks per show or 14 for both. And if you want to be part of the VIP where you get drunk with us, do Zoom parties and drinking games, go get the VIP package. Support the boys. Let's fucking do this. I can't wait to play music with them. I fucking miss them. You know, I play with Sean, you know, but it's just me and Sean. I want, you know, we're fucking,
Starting point is 00:09:10 we're rock and roll band. So it's going to be nice to have the whole band here. So go grab some tickets for the virtual fest, August 21st and 22nd. Go get it. Um, all right guys, enough pitching for the morning.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Um, but enjoy Larkin Poe, and I will catch you on the tail end, and let's rock. Have a great day. All right. Next up on the interview hour, we got Larkin Poe, baby.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Badass blues artists. They're sisters. They fucking sing their asses off. Yo, Chris, play off their new album, Self Made Man. They just put out a new record. Grammy nominated. They're fucking kicking ass out there, even through a quarantine. If you like, they put out all these videos of covers of them playing all these old, new songs.
Starting point is 00:10:07 They're just really good people. And I'm proud of them. One of them got married. Shout out to Rebecca. But yeah, it's going to be great. So ladies and gentlemen, enjoy this interview. The audio was a little shaky because I don't know what's wrong with my internet today. Hope doesn't fuck up for the shit show.
Starting point is 00:10:23 But the audio was a little shaky. I think Chris massaged it as best as he can, so I hope that is. But it was a great, insightful interview about growing up being, you know, they started when they were 14. Fucking crazy. And, you know, they were on that Prairie Home Companion show. It's a great story and talking about being women in the blues community. And it was beautiful to hear them talk about that. So, ladies and gentlemen, enjoy my interview with Larkin Poe. I can't let it go, gotta do or die For an underdog, I've been riding high
Starting point is 00:11:08 Don't want to sit up in my Pontiac Baby's on her way, she ain't coming back Never coming back, never coming back Oh, baby's on her way Never coming back, never coming back now we're coming back baby's on the way like it or not I don't give a damn
Starting point is 00:11:32 Lord have mercy I'm a self-made man I got a plan up top and to turn him Lord have mercy I'm a self-made man oh self-made man oh self-made man. Oh, self-made man.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh, self-made man. What up, Larkin Poe? How y'all doing? Oh, man. We are living. How are you, king of optimism? I'm trying, dude. It's hard to be optimistic through this fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 00:12:05 How you guys doing? You guys are pretty optimistic for playing blues music. We are. We've been keeping busy, dude. We had a record come out at the beginning of the whole quarantine situation. So we've been promoting it and been working on new music, been just staying super active on the social medias and whatnot. Yeah. How hard is it? I put out a record during quarantine too. How hard is it to get an album out to market it and like try to visually try to get people
Starting point is 00:12:36 to listen to it through a pandemic? Yeah, I feel like it was a very different situation historically compared to the way that, you know, artists that are like us making music a little left of center, like traditionally you take the music to the people. We had like so many tours. We were going to have our first tour bus tour in Europe. And so we were going to bring it to folks. But in the absence of touring, I think it definitely required us to think more outside the box and lots of online interviews, you know, promoting it. And I think it went actually considering it went pretty well. Yeah. People were pretty engaged and I felt very fortunate that folks were seeking out, you know, some distractions, some new tunes, stuff to kind of help them through.
Starting point is 00:13:20 But it's definitely been a different call to action for for us as artists so many more like live chats with people and stuff that we never thought we would do but you know hey man all all game for it fucking survive in advance ladies that's what i'm talking about let's go let's go let's go let's go you know you but you guys always been, you know, really good about social media. I mean, you always put out new videos of y'all doing covers and the sisters rocking. I mean, was that always part of the game plan? Like when you first started, I mean, was that and whatnot, you were making all these blues covers and just doing a song a day. Have you guys, do you think that helped your growth? I do think it's helped our growth. And I don't know that I can be so clinical about it. Like we started very naively just doing it for fun. Yeah. We, you know, we were using it kind of as a practice tool because when we were off the road, we wanted to kind of keep fresh and, you know, we were using it kind of as a practice tool because when we were off the road, we wanted to kind of keep fresh.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And, you know, learning other people's stuff is a great way to practice. So we were kind of like just doing it to just learn some of the songs that we love. Like a lot of the songs that we learn are nostalgic to us or, you know, new favorites or songs that we wish we had written. And it really took off. We weren't expecting it to. Also, i feel like we're so goal oriented like as people so to be able to have little tasks to knock out like when you're off the road because sometimes i think artists we have this tendency to potentially
Starting point is 00:14:54 fall into this black hole of a void like when you're not touring it's like what do i do with myself and so this has been a way for us to like stay engaged and it's really served us as people. And then I think another definite positive benefit of it is that it's really served as a connective tissue between us and fans, people finding us online. We've had a bunch of stuff go viral on Facebook and that kind of stuff has really helped with ticket sales and raising awareness in cities that we've never been to before. So it's all gravy. It's very nice. That's awesome. I mean, knowing the future of, you know, and maybe not touring until 2021
Starting point is 00:15:32 and being blues acts and, you know, alternative acts, how do you feel like your mental stability is going to be in, you know, three or four months? That's an excellent question. Um, I think it's nice that Megan and I are so close. And so we're able to kind of defrag through this together because it is very jarring. I mean, I think it's definitely required a lot of, and not just for us. I think we're very aware that everyone around the world is like kind of going through this weird wave of acceptance and then you know it's like the stages of grief or whatever where you're like oh I'm great I'm fine then you're in this deep chasm of sorrow and anger
Starting point is 00:16:16 and like I keep I feel like we keep moving through you know this acceptance of the way things are going to be but I think ultimately what's going to save us is just continuing to really stay engaged with making stuff. Because I certainly don't want us to, you know, flip off and just like be dormant for six, eight, nine, twelve, however many months it ends up being. So trying to just stay really busy and keep engaging with writing and, you know, making beats and practicing and just whatever we can do to keep those juices flowing. I think that's definitely been the goal. I talked to us in six months.
Starting point is 00:16:53 We'll probably be like despondent shells of ourselves. That's the thing. What's the hardest part of being in the business with your sister? Luckily, there aren't many downsides. I think our early twenties were probably the roughest part. Oh yeah, definitely. I think, um, as we were sort of trying to figure out who we are as people, it was difficult to be so on top of each other. Um, but we kind of moved through that period of time and it's all positives, man. Like it's such a special relationship that we have to be able to share this connection
Starting point is 00:17:26 and travel the world together and be business partners. There's nobody that I trust more. And it's especially during this time, so nice to have a partner that I can lean on. Yeah. I'm actually, I'm having a hard time thinking of what the hardest part would be. What is the hardest part? I mean, I think knowing each other so well and knowing what buttons to push. It's so very, very easy to know how to really upset that person. You have to have some, have some,
Starting point is 00:17:54 yeah, have some self control. Yeah. And we've definitely like, we've learned and worked on our relationship for years. Cause I mean, we certainly don't want to be one of those sibling bands. It's just like at each other's throats all the time.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Cause that's miserable. Like when, when we're pissed at each other, that those sibling bands it's just like at each other's throats all the time because that's miserable like when when we're pissed at each other that's like it's the worst time it's like the bleak midwinter of touring yeah I mean I get it I mean you know I love my sister but I also can't fucking stand her sometimes so it's just like you know it's like it's kind of it'd be like a weird thing because family's blood and you can never break up but you're on the road. I feel like sometimes it just gets difficult when... Do you have a fear of not having your own identity? See, that's the hardest part.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I think you just sneaked your way in there to the truth. I do feel that there is a definite sense of we're codependent i don't feel like it's entirely unhealthy but there is a definite sense like if i go out to a party or something megan's not there i kind of feel like my left arm is missing a little bit and but i don't really think of it as a bad thing but maybe how do you feel about it it's like we've been i'm i'm 31 and we're less than two years apart. And in that entire amount of time, we haven't spent more than two weeks apart from each other.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And that can be, that can get pretty intense. Yeah. Like, um, I think it is, there is a lot of intertwining. It's like,
Starting point is 00:19:19 where do, where do I end? And she begins, I'm not quite sure at all times, but it's kind of like it's a good thing and a bad thing and I think we're just trying to like work it
Starting point is 00:19:32 to where it feels as healthy as possible but I accept it it is what it is and I am definitely like a very I'm as myself just a very intense little sister to have so I feel for you sometimes me too tell me about the intenseness what do you how what do you get intense about
Starting point is 00:19:49 oh well i mean i think especially anybody and i i can i can definitely imagine this being true for you and you're breaking up on the side of being unable to turn off at any point in time. So it's like if I'm not working on music or a lot of composed stuff, like I don't really have many other hobbies. Like if my hobby is playing guitar, which is also like part of my job. So there is definitely like a part of me that at 2 a.m. is like, should I text Megan this idea that I just had? And I'm like, wait, maybe no, maybe don't.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So that I think is definitely the intensiveness where I think I burn very, very brightly most of the time. And so Megan very rarely gets a break from me, like up in her DMs and her texts and her call history. Can't escape. I mean, I totally see it. I mean, I think that's part of the times when we start getting anxiety and start getting stressed out is when we have nothing else but what we know and what we have. It's like we're so obsessed to either write the great song or get better at our instrument or go on that tour, promote that tour, make those videos that we forget that there's other things that we like or hopefully like. I mean, we don't know. Yeah. What else do you like, guys? Well, we like our husbands,
Starting point is 00:21:12 and that's one thing that's pretty sick about being home. Are they musicians to you, though? It's true. I mean, as you can imagine. Yeah, so both of our dudes are actually, they're musicians, and so they tour just as much as we do. So nine times out of 10 in a common year, like we see each other very, very low distance thing.
Starting point is 00:21:31 So to actually be home, this is legitimately the longest we've spent with our partners in what, like the duration of our relationships. So that's pretty, that's pretty awesome to actually be able to hang out with your person and realize that you do in fact like each other and you're not just, you know, resigned to long distance, which is great.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, I mean, I feel like, you know, when musicians get married, this is what a lot of people, I don't know, maybe. But when musicians get married and all of a sudden, you know, they do the routine for the years and all of a sudden, bam, something like this, a pandemic hits. It'd probably be hard to like, I mean, you're really getting the notion you're a guy right now, right? It's true. Oh, yeah. It's true. I mean, yeah, it's hard. I mean, we don't like the little things that, you know, you girls know about each other
Starting point is 00:22:19 because you're always with each other. But like the other stuff that your guys don't know about those little ticks, those little things. I mean, that must be at first, you know, tough to adjust like, Oh shit, I'm staying in one town with somebody. I mean, I, I'm just asking as a guy who's never had a relationship. So this is just maybe a selfish question, but, um, what are tricks to, for musicians to date musicians? But what are tricks for musicians to date musicians?
Starting point is 00:22:49 I think in a lot of ways. So I personally, I definitely, you know, I dated people who were musicians in the industry and then those that were not. And I think personally for me, I really have found a lot of longevity with, you know, my husband that he has a greater understanding for what it is that I do. Because I do think there's like, it's very easy to romanticize and, you know my husband that he he has a greater understanding for what it is that i do because i do think there's like it's very easy to romanticize and you know have this big glamorous
Starting point is 00:23:12 idea of what touring actually is when you're thinking about oh my god like you're in paris you're in you're in prague you're in you know london wow how how cool and so if someone doesn't understand that a lot of times there's a lot more you know workhorse that you're having to pull out not show pony um it's it's really nice to be able to have that empathy and understanding with someone who's also been through the you know the kind of the grind of what it means to actually be out on the road as one musician on a budget and you know and literally getting into the 15 passenger van and not having a bus not having a private jet or like any of the glamour that that would probably make it a lot easier so in that respect I do feel very grateful to have wound up with somebody
Starting point is 00:23:56 that also has that understanding but being home I mean especially with the quarantine like I definitely feel between my dude and I like we're're, we're definitely like, go out and do the things and experience life. And so just staying home has required like some patience on both of our parts and getting creative in the house and like playing around and finding ways to have fun that don't involve, you know, going out to a museum or, or the movies or a bar or a nice restaurant. Um, and that's been, I think, a really good exercise because like you said, there is more to us as individuals than just making music and grinding out, you know, that next little piece of content for the band.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So to kind of relax into that has been pretty nice as well. You know, I'm growing tomatoes, so I'm a farmer now. Let's go. Let's go. Farming it up. That's great. Yeah. My tomatoes are better than your tomatoes. Get out of here with that.
Starting point is 00:24:51 No. Oh, thank God you guys fight. Thank God. I thought this was going to be some weird cult thing where y'all never fight. No, dude, no. I do have a question, though, about why is blues music and roots music bigger in Europe than in America? That is an excellent question. I think probably if you were to ask 10 people, you get 10 different answers.
Starting point is 00:25:16 My personal read is, you know, and this is very broad brush generalization, but I do think that there's a different culture surrounding live music in Europe and the UK. I think that the US in a lot of ways is catching up, but like historically, when you think about people that have consistently gone out and bought tickets, for us in the last 10 years of making music,
Starting point is 00:25:40 we've always had a lot more attentive fans in Europe and the UK. And I really do think that's because there is a greater culture surrounding live music and not just like going to a pop or a hip hop show, but actually going out to, you know, the Glastonbury. Like there's a lot of precedent set in Europe and the UK around roots music and folk music and having a place for that celebrated. Because, I mean, the US, we have such riches. You know, when you think about the amount of music that has come out of, you know, even
Starting point is 00:26:13 just the southern states in terms of blues and, you know, early rock and roll and soul, like we have such, such treasures, such riches that I think a lot of times we haven't really taken or created a space for those art forms to really be celebrated and to have a place. Especially, go ahead. Maybe you don't really appreciate what's in your backyard sometimes. Overseas,
Starting point is 00:26:38 there's a little bit of distance there, so there's maybe more value attached to it. Or intrigue. I think it was a real highlighting factor so we got nominated for a grammy this year in the contemporary blues category and so we went out and did the whole rigmarole you know where you you take the pictures and you have the little whatever metal thing that says you've been nominated and you taught around and it was cool. And obviously it was such an honor going to the general Grammy nominee party.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It's like they have got fricking shrimp and champagne on ice and you're, you know, walking around and everyone looks fancy and fine. And so then when you go to the little specific parties for the roots, American genres, you know, when you see the funds that are available for the blues and the roots, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:23 communities to put on their own celebration, you really sense that there's just not that much importance placed upon these genres and for us as people who really feel passionately about the importance historically of roots american music that gets a little much and it is kind of hard to swallow at times and one i feel like you want to make a change oh of course like and we're talking in the mainstream of course there's like huge communities surrounding these genres that are amazing and doing great work, incredible work. And there are a lot of supporters.
Starting point is 00:27:52 But just in the mainstream, I think there is kind of a stigma attached to it. And by comparison, yeah, really wanting to get more eyes on what we feel is again, very treasure, you know, stuff that we're talking about here with recent american music talk that shit girls don't worry about it fuck the grammys talk that shit girls if you want
Starting point is 00:28:10 tell them what's up no but uh i feel that you're totally right it's like kind of like it's basically like a big old like smoke and mirrors type of thing where it's like you have to like shake hands kiss babies just to get an award so it's not really about the music it's more about just kissing the people's ass who give you the awards right i you know to be honest with you i think that we have such a limited experience thus far that i i don't feel that i actually because as you know like megan and i we've run into each other enough times for i think even between the two of the three of us, like we're somewhat loners. Like we're not naturally like go out and hang type people.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like we're kind of like grannies in our late 20s, you know. So I don't think that we've hung out enough to really sense if that's true. But I would it wouldn't surprise me if in fact fact, that was very, very, very, very true. Well, I think that even what we consider the real prize is being able to go out on the road and actually have people show up to shows. It's like the Grammy, it's nice, but it's not the true prize. That's true. I feel there is a difference between sucking up to the industry or sucking up to your fan.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And it's like, which is more meaning, which is a more meaningful thing up. Like I would definitely say like being able to have that consistent connection with the people that are literally the ones that are paying your bills and supporting you and believing in the art. Like that has way more, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:42 importance ultimately than, than people in the industry being like, good job. Here is your little golden star. Well done. Yeah, it's true. I mean, people stress so much about getting awards and stuff. But really, we should be stressed about who is reacting to what we do as artists, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Who's listening? Who's actually listening and getting something out of what it is that you're making because that and i think in the end is is why we do what we do it's to form that connection like i've been to multiples of your shows and the way that you just like explode like and bring joy on stage like you're i've literally watched you stage dive and crowd surf to like 15 people and you were literally being carried by 15 people to the ocean and back to the stage do you remember that yeah i sure do i think rock boat or something right yeah like you're that you're that guy you're you're totally the one that's listening to the people and being like all right let's go on a journey
Starting point is 00:30:39 together and that strikes me as something so powerful that we're all seeking. Like we all want to find those people that can be the torchbearers for us in our own journey. So yeah, anyway, I'm waxing elegant as hell. Well, I appreciate the love. I was just, you know, I'm just so curious because we give so much to everyone else. And we give so much. We're always thinking about the audience. Are you saving some for yourself? I really like this question. i feel it's something we've been learning how to do better
Starting point is 00:31:09 as we've gotten older in learning to say no to some stuff because i think that inherently like when you're when you're an entertainer you know you're definitely conditioned it's a work in progress yeah yeah i mean it's tough i mean this is why a lot of these musicians are you know having suppression issues and and having you know alcoholism like you guys have you guys got into any like addictions throughout your uh career no actually weirdly i think you know what i i really do feel that's a function of the fact that we started so young like we started touring when i was 15 and a half ish and we were touring as a family band and luckily it was like it wasn't like a show parent situation it was definitely like a burden of our own to want to go out and play and our parents were just nice enough to help facilitate. Um, so I think we,
Starting point is 00:32:07 like we established a lot of habits early on that we were just like, we were there to work and there to focus and be serious. And we've always, I think sometimes we've taken ourselves a little too seriously, like especially in our early twenties. It's really fascinating. Cause you said you guys started when you were 15. Like, can you tell me your dynamic with your parents? Yeah. So luckily, we didn't have a show parent situation. Both of our folks were actually medical doctors. So they weren't super stoked on the idea originally of us being performing musicians.
Starting point is 00:32:40 They've always been incredibly supportive. But I think it was drilled into us from a very young age that this wasn't going to be our job and we needed to accept the fact that it was a glorified hobby um but then here we are you know 15 20 years later and it's like hey we're still doing the thing but it's been very healthy for our family surprising surprisingly um and i think that we are very fortunate in probably the closeness of our relationship that we've always had someone like literally glued to your side that's checking you and making sure that you're being healthy and being safe with yourself and not having too many dependencies outside of, you know, like we talked about. For me, I think the workaholism angle can be a little bit tricky where I have to, I have have to have better boundaries sometimes with, you know, turning off and just letting it be.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But I do, I feel very lucky that we have had each other through the whole, we kind of keep each other honest. Yeah. The whole run. Tell me about resentment. Tell me about, you guys didn't feel any,
Starting point is 00:33:39 anything like that. That's crazy. For them to glorify hobby. I, well, we had a very non-traditional upbringing. We were actually homeschooled. So we spent a lot of really quality time with our folks. And so I think we were raised from a very young age to take responsibility of our situations and stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:00 As our education went by and the you know, the different things that our, because our folks were the original ones that enrolled us in lessons. So when we were young, we got into classical music. I was like three and Megan was four. So music was always really cherished in our home. But I think I personally understood the fear that a parent would have for their child. Because, I mean, I really feel that our folks, you know, they wanted us to be safe and happy and healthy. And I think there is a lot of stigma attached to the dangers of touring.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And one, you know, you're not going to make a living or two, you're going to get into drugs and drink, or you're just going to like be generally dissatisfied with your life because there's such a slim margin of people that actually find success. So I think when you look at it from that angle of like, hey, I get like the empathy piece of being a parent and like being really terrified for your kid's future. I do get it. And I think especially having been in the industry where it's like you realize how much work goes into it and how many really deserving people don't actually have their day in court. Like they don't, a lot of people who really should be like the creme de la creme, most celebrated of high artists,
Starting point is 00:35:08 they don't get that. They don't get the credit that they're due based on how much work and energy they expend. So I would definitely, I don't know that I would like tell my kid it was a glorified hobby, but I'd be like, Hey, take it very seriously because you're looking for a long and thankless job.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But honestly, they kind of did get on board pretty fast though because um like our dad is he's got great taste in music and he has always been the person that you know sits there and listens really deeply to the lyrics and he'll he cries over the lyrics so we you know we've we kind of inherited our path for music i think from him so i think that he really, once he saw that we were working hard at it, they were like, okay, yeah, we see the value in this. Do your thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Yeah, I mean, it must be tough. I mean, like, what made them decide for y'all to do homeschool in Georgia? Yeah, they were kind of weird to have done it, especially at that time. I guess it would have been, what, late 90s? Like, they were kind of they were outsiders and having decided to do that but um it was honestly because our eldest sister she's really our eldest sister is like a bright a bright individual and so she started goofing off in school and I think our mom was like okay she's like not getting challenged enough and
Starting point is 00:36:21 so mom decided to take her home so as a result we just kind of got lumped in yeah yeah i don't know that i'm so right or anything but i probably could have done better in school who knows i might have just been a dumb cheerleader though no offense cheerleaders no it's funny because like think about if you would have went to public school you think guys have been different people absolutely oh absolutely and you know i think that we wouldn't have gotten into music for one thing Because we were touring so young Like we were able to go out on the road And just take the school work with us
Starting point is 00:36:52 And have all the free time To do kind of whatever It was that we wanted to do It was a gift Of course pros and cons But I consider it to be a gift. Listen, Mom, I'm getting out of here. I'm going on the fucking road.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It is halftime at the Andy Fresco interview hour. Who I'd Go Gay For. Welcome back to an episode of Who I'd Go Gay For. I'm your host, Ari Finlay. Today's episode is weird, even for me, okay? I just saw The King of Staten Island. There's a guy in the movie who the second I saw him, I thought I want to kiss him on his big, beautiful, juicy lips.
Starting point is 00:37:33 No, I'm not talking about Pete Davidson. I'm talking about Steve fucking Buscemi, okay? I know he's not naturally good looking. I know he's got weird fucking eyes and wrinkly skin. And the dude weighs like 90 pounds soaking wet, but he can fucking act. Okay. He's hysterical. He can be dramatic. He's great in Con Air and Armageddon and Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire. He's got a fucking Golden Globe and a goddamn Emmy. What more do you need? Honestly, the real reason why I want to suck this guy's dick, he said he's a good person. All right. Before he
Starting point is 00:38:05 was an actor, he was a New York City fireman. And on 9-11, he went back to his old firehouse and went to ground zero to help save lives. Now, if you don't want to suck Steve Buscemi's dick after that, then you hate America. OK, if you don't want to lay in bed with this guy until you get old, then the terrorists have won. It's that easy. All right. This has been an episode of Who I'd Go Gay For. I'm your host, Ari Finling. Steve Buscemi, I love you. How old were you when you first got in the van and went on tour? It's so funny. So I was probably 15 and a half megan was 16 our eldest sister was like
Starting point is 00:38:49 you know 19 and um we actually had gone on do you know that that radio show like way back in the day garrison keeler when he was hosting a prairie home companion yeah yeah so he had a talent competition 12 to 20 and so some friends of ours Were like Hey y'all should like Submit the demo tape Because you make music Like you should see
Starting point is 00:39:10 If you can get on the show And so we did And we got asked To perform on the show And we ended up winning The competition on the show And so after we performed And like they gave us
Starting point is 00:39:20 The little like Medal on air You know We had a bunch of venues reaching out to us, assuming that we were a professional band, because I don't think the people understood. It's so weird looking back on it now, because we were touring pretty much full time,
Starting point is 00:39:36 like out of the box. And like posh gigs. Super posh gigs. Performing arts that we now looking back, like having started, because when we started over with larkin poe it was kind of like going back to square one and really building a band from the ground up but like the level sisters like had such posh gigs we had they wanted cheese platters
Starting point is 00:39:57 backstage and we had no idea no idea that was like uncommon at the time so here we were you know the family in the minivan rolling up to this you know 3 000 odd seat performing arts center with you know soft ticket sales of people who've bought their you know their season pass and they just show up and watch these little kids put on a bluegrass show and man how the times have changed you know yes and no because like blues acts now are doing performing arts centers and stuff. Like, there's no, like, there used to be, like, this, like, this grassroots feeling when you're going to a blues show. Now it feels like, oh, we're doing it at a civic arts center
Starting point is 00:40:38 or, like, in Europe. I mean, do you still wish that there was, like, venues that held, like, old school style blues events? Well, I suppose in response to that angle, I guess it depends on which blues act you're watching. Because I do feel that there is, there's a lot of artists that are pioneering a different angle like of blues and trying to keep it fresh and make it more challenging like when you watch somebody like fantastic negrito like he's putting on such a bombastic incredible show so it really depends like are you watching a heritage blues act that is like serving more as a time capsule and while that's important it is a very different
Starting point is 00:41:21 thing than like a scrappier band like even like us like we don't we don't really fit into that civic auditorium situation because we want people standing we want sorry a car is passing no you know we want that energy we want like a grungy club that we can play in um but i i really again like as per our conversation read grammys in the blues and stuff like i really think that there should be more importance culturally placed upon providing an outlet for this music to be celebrated greater here in the US. And I don't know exactly what form or shape that we take because we talk about people like, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:58 Skip James or like some of the original bluesmen and wishing that they had had more of a platform in their day and those people exist they're still around yeah they're you know they're like in texas seeing some of these like incredible musicians it's like how can we provide them like a platform so really i think i mean we because you know we started our record label in 2017 and it's been such a empowering move for us to have made in terms of not having to provide any like any list of anything that we're doing to anybody else like we do what we're going to do as we decide to do it and i think that served us so well and being able to move quickly and
Starting point is 00:42:40 release records and and stay up and you know fresh with people so i i feel like probably ultimately it would be like starting your own record label for for heritage blues artists that you could go out and seek and find these people and give them the platform to release their music in an effort to keep you know to keep track of so do you know alan lomax alan lomax was this guy that traveled around like you know the the southern united states during the turn of the century and like captured these incredible historic recordings of a lot of these artists. There's no way in hell we'd ever be able to have any of these recordings otherwise. So to try and do a modern day version of that, I think it would be a really worthy effort.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yeah, I totally understand that. I didn't know you guys started a record label. That's awesome. So let's put on that record label hat right now. So what do you think we should do for these heritage acts that rely on, you know, playing live every day? How do we get their names out there more through a world that's so fast paced and an idea that blues, you you know isn't in the mainstream media yeah again i think it's part of starting the conversation because to me so much of what we do is driven by the entertainment right like you go to a show for the for the night out with your
Starting point is 00:44:03 buddies and to and to see something really exciting and spectacular. But there is a duality to what it is that we're providing people. Because we're providing entertainment, yes. But also, there are so many artists out there, you included, potentially us included, that are serving a deeper cause. serving a deeper cause to, you know, one, documenting our times through the voice of an artist, you know, carrying on musical traditions and trying to inspire people to engage with their feelings and to engage with creativity. Like there's these deeper messages that I feel are really important and that's why the arts should be celebrated. So to that point, like I think if you really look at blues music and and you understand the cultural significance of what this
Starting point is 00:44:46 music can teach us and and when you go back and you listen to these artists and you understand you know the momentous emotional education you can draw from this music and the experience of these people channeled from their life into their art. I think when you start that conversation and you really bring up like the deeper underpinnings of why this is important with people, then you can start, I think to open people's eyes as to why they should listen to some of these recordings that aren't maybe even necessarily super entertaining to listen to.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It's like, all right, cool. It's just a voice and a guitar. Like where's my synthesizers? Where is my like, you know, hot beats. It's like, no beats it's like no it's it's
Starting point is 00:45:26 about something different like hold on have some space but i think it is sneaking in yeah because you hear so much blues like slide guitar and like raw vocals and blues melodies on tv shows now yeah it's true like peaky blinders and shows like that. Yellowstone. Oh my God. Yellowstone, this new TV show that's like bowing everybody's minds. It has so much Roots American programming with, you know, leftist center country artists and the Sturgill Simpsons of the world and people that are like, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:55 doing something a little bit different. So that gives me great hope that we do have these other outlets outside of just, you know, the Capitol records and all these big, you know, conglomerates of, of people
Starting point is 00:46:05 that historically have been the gatekeepers to releasing records, but now we are in this time in which it's a bit of a free-for-all and we have so many more outlets to get music to people and that makes me very excited. I like that. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Do you think it's hard for ADD culture because the whole idea of judging a book by its cover through this ADD thing that it's hard for you to even say that you're a blues band because you don't want to be categorized as that. Or do you think,
Starting point is 00:46:32 are you proud of it? Listen, we're very proud of it. And I do think that that's something that's been said to us by people in the industry again and again, where they're like, listen, you don't want to typecast yourself.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You don't want to limit yourself. And I, for one, am at the point where I don't feel that that is good advice from anybody to give anybody. I don't care. Let's go, girls. That's what we're talking about. But it's true. Like, I mean, the only thing that we can do authentically is make music that we feel really excited about. The only thing that we can do authentically Is make music that we feel really excited about
Starting point is 00:47:04 And if it's not like Cool and if it's not going to Live on TikTok Oh well It kind of is what it is I mean There are so many situations in which I feel people
Starting point is 00:47:20 Have used blues To gain access to a certain Status But then as soon as blues People have used blues to gain access to a certain status. But then as soon as blues or root music is no longer cool or it's holding somebody back, they kind of drop it or they don't give it the credit that it's due. And that for me feels very abusory. I don't think that's a word, but it feels very abusory to me where you're like, you're using something for your own factious purposes and not, you know, dancing with who brung you.
Starting point is 00:47:48 So I certainly don't feel like that's something that would ever appeal to us. Like some people may raise umbrage to the fact that we are too, you know, 20 something, 30 something for some of us, you know, playing blues music. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:48:01 Hey, that's not authentic. But it's like, listen, this is, this is music of the soul. And if you're approaching it with the right, know attitude and the right sense of respect it's absolutely music for everyone yeah i feel like you'd get a lot of sexism from these fucking guys or you know these like traditional blues acts or blues listeners
Starting point is 00:48:20 they're like you know these girls are just playing you know that this is bullshit do you have do you deal with a lot of sexism in the blues culture all right you know i i think that you could you could insert where you just said blues you could just say in the music industry because i do think that you run up against a lot of of ignorance where people are like you said judging the book by the cover and and while that's annoying i don't completely like not understand it like we are we are a race of people and we you know we cultivate you know stereotypes and generalizations because it helps us move through the world faster so i get why they exist why these stereotypes exist but i don't think they're helpful it's outdated yeah it's bullshit yeah and that's why we called the record Self-Made Man. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:07 This sort of gender qualifying success. If you are successful, you're a man. You're a self-made man. That is crazy. I didn't even think about that. Dude, I know. Neither had we.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I mean, I personally have said self-made man countless times in my life without ever having given it a second thought as to what I was actually saying. And once it occurred to me, I was like, hold on a second. Like, wait, what? Wait, I'm literally doing it myself. Like, it's so insidious, this kind of lack of equality that, you know, is just kind of lumped into the way that we move through the world. So once we realized that, we were like, oh, my God, we got to write a song. And yes, we should absolutely name the record after the song. And it's raised so many hackles hilariously around the world.
Starting point is 00:49:57 So funny in a small way. You know, it's crazy. I mean, like, I feel it. Do you feel like you have to work harder being a woman in the music industry? I just feel like people have people feel like you have to work harder being a woman in the music industry. I Just feel like people have people regardless of gender have to work harder I mean because as we've talked about because they're now there's no longer like gatekeepers and it is a free-for-all I think that that has a direct, you know correlation to the fact that there is 18 bajillion people out there who are all trying to take a shot and be creative and make a living doing this.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I think you just have to work harder in general. But I do think that as musicians, there is an expectation that we will not be as good as the boys. That's true. Such bullshit. So I do think that we have to... It's almost like you do have to be better
Starting point is 00:50:43 to be accepted. Yeah, and that's the thing about this whole society like we're judging people just by their appearance like and not their brains which is fucking maddening to me that people weird it's so weird like it's like oh god in the music industry it's like cause you guys play amazing music and doesn't matter if you're, you know, an African American man or a white woman or anything, you guys play amazing music.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And for people just to judge cause your girls or women is, it's fucking bullshit. I'm on your side. This is bullshit. You shouldn't be worried. Call it out, buddy. I'm gonna call it.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I love it. I mean, it's, I mean, I'm so glad you guys named the record Self-Made Man because, yeah, people need to realize that we're all just people trying to figure out how to do life, you know? Yeah. And I take a lot of optimism, like going back to our buzzword at the beginning of our chat. Let's go. like going back to our buzzword at the beginning of our, of our chat, like I do sense that people
Starting point is 00:51:45 are trending towards, towards relaxing, you know, towards allowing there to be more space for people to, to go against their expectation. And I think it's really important that as, as a society that, that we are having these conversations and we are bothering to look at it and say, Hey, listen, it's not just, you know, black and white. There's so much more gray in between, you know, or if you want to insert a rainbow there, you can also like, you know, we're all special and unique snowflakes. And, and it actually is true what our mothers tell us, like, you know, the way that our, that our brains are wired and whatever, you know, hormones are pumping through our bodies, we are special and unique and there should be space for all of us.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And I support that and I really want that to be better represented in blues and American music. Let's make ourselves proud, you know? Yeah. I mean, I'm close friends with Samantha Fish. You know Samantha Fish? She's national.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yeah, I love her. She's a badass. She's the best. I sometimes feel like I want to be big brother to her when some of these creepy dudes who are just like just trying to like. It's so frustrating to me. Like, do you ever have to deal with that kind of stuff in your in your genre of music? Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 00:53:02 We do. I mean, it doesn't help that it's like, I mean, as gender stereotypes go, you know, it's like, I think men can be a little bit more predatory than I think that women can typically be more of, you know, the victim of some of that negative attention. And so sometimes it can be weird
Starting point is 00:53:19 and a little bit disheartening. But then you also, you have to balance it out with the amount of really incredible interactions we do have with our fans as well we do we do have to say like just to social media um commenters out there like we're sisters we're not gonna kiss people are you serious oh yeah man you i mean the amount of like just i mean internet trolley stuff that we get it's so crazy but that's also internet like i think sometimes the internet just brings out like the weirdest
Starting point is 00:53:51 parts of people and you're like just go home turn off your computer don't just don't do it no hold on they are they're trying to make you cam girls i know can. Can you imagine? That's insane. I mean, like. Us little, you know, grannies in their late 20s. Less us. No. You know, that's also what's fucked up about society. Like, we're trying to make music sexy.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah. And it's bullshit. I mean, like, he's going back to our conversation it doesn't need to be it's about the words it's about the melodies it's about the focus you know it's like we we're so i think we're losing our identity with what music is right i completely agree i think especially having gone to like for the first time this year as we've talked about some of the bigger award shows and stuff and really perceiving what is commonly consumed as music you're like oh my god this is not music this is a dance routine like what are we talking about right now is this is this literally the kind of music that that is driving you know such an important form of art
Starting point is 00:55:01 like no this is this is not. What you are presenting right now is something very different from music. So, I mean... Which is okay. That's okay. But that's not all. That's not all. So there is, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:13 it's like, you know, for fans that are following Andy Frasco and that are, you know, following Larkin Pollack, there is a different, you know, set of people who are seeking something different from their music. We love those people. We love them very much.
Starting point is 00:55:27 We're thankful for them. You guys are sweet. It's crazy because what were the main reasons why you got into music in the first place? Were you running away from something or did you love it? Were you suppressing feelings?
Starting point is 00:55:48 I think in Baloo, so like we said, we started with classical music. And classical was always a bit of a chore. Yeah, it was. Well, we started when Rebecca was three and I was four. And so I don't really even have a memory of beginning. But what I do remember is going to a bluegrass festival for the first time and experiencing you know being a classical kid reading everything off of a page it's very different to see music that's being kind of created on the spot like improvisation and
Starting point is 00:56:18 the joy that we felt and the creativity and passion that was what was really what really struck us and we immediately quit all our classical lessons and picked up you know the banjo because we just wanted to be a part of that and that I think was definitely falling in love with something falling in love with the energy and the spontaneity and and that was I mean very life-changing for us so I in that way I think that music has provided us such companionship in our lives. It's been like my best friend, literally, you know, besides Megan, for my entire life. So for that. Did you feel like you were lonely growing up as a kid?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah, very. I mean, when you're homeschooled, that's just kind of baked into the pie because it is, I mean, especially where we live, we were in, you know, rural northern Georgia. So there weren't a lot of other homeschool groups. I just imagine, you know, being a homeschool kid who also like played bluegrass. We were so uncool. Holy shit, I didn't even think of that. That's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah. So, you know, loneliness definitely existed. But I do think that it, again, like you're asking if you thought we would be different people had we, you know, loneliness definitely existed, but I do think that it, again, like you're, you're asking if you thought we would be different people, had we, you know, taken a more, and yeah, I mean, I think in that, in that loneliness, we weren't, you know, given the space to, to really become more unique as individuals. And I, I wouldn't trade that, you know. And we found our people now. So know? No, we haven't. And we found our people now. So it's good to have a community. I mean, have you guys ever done therapy or anything? You know, I've wanted to,
Starting point is 00:57:57 but traditionally we're gone so much and I couldn't afford any of the fancy Skype people. But I am looking forward to a day in which I can do therapy. I think it's such an incredible tool to have someone help you question your emotions. Have you? Yeah, I just started doing it. With that being said,
Starting point is 00:58:14 what have you learned about yourself that you didn't know you knew through this quarantine? I can kind of appreciate the feeling that you're describing of suppression i think that that i probably have done some of that on the road just um not being honest about the fact that we were moving so much like especially in late 2019 like yeah you guys i think it was too hard i think it was too much and I wasn't necessarily being honest about that and probably I think that my
Starting point is 00:58:48 my mental health probably was suffering like when I if I'm being a little bit honest about how hard that touring was so I think going it we're going to be coming from a different place looking at touring from a different place now which I think is very interesting yeah and what's
Starting point is 00:59:04 that place? Being okay with saying when it's too much, that you don't have to be everywhere. You don't have to say yes to everything. It's okay to take a moment for yourself yeah because i do i think that there is a certain frenetic and especially i think when megan when you're tied to me because i'm like i i do have this seemingly like i like to go go go go go and i feel happy when that's happening so sometimes i think that that i have pulled you into saying yes to certain things that probably weren't appropriate things to say yes to.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Well, we're talking about playing a festival in Washington State and then getting on a plane and flying overnight to make it to a festival in East Canada. You know, it's like too much. It was too much I you know what I feel I've learned about myself is many things I do think it's it's been really important like Megan saying to learn what you value about yourself in the absence of of an. Because I mean, like you said, like you've been touring so hard for so long that you do sort of have this skewed perception of yourself and you really begin to equate your personal value with, you know, what people clap for on stage. And so I think having a little bit of a breather from that, it kind of reminds you, it's like, wait, you know, it's one thing to headbang onbang on stage and you know take a ripping solo or sing really good or like really go to that place and like
Starting point is 01:00:49 pull out all the stops and leave everything on the stage but there's also like there's being a kind person there's being kind to yourself there is you know opening the door for the person behind you in line or or paying it forward at dunkin donuts and buying the person behind you in line or paying it forward at Dunkin Donuts and buying the person behind you a coffee just because it might make them smile. Like there's little simple things that go into also being a, like a quality human. And quality is so subjective, like obviously. But I think it's been really important for me to like have a little bit of that space to like have some self-reflection on what do I personally value myself for because I've definitely struggled with self-worth issues for no reason like you know prized in my parents eyes have a really supportive sister have you know really supportive fans that tell you oh my god you're so pretty you play so good like I love the songs you write everything
Starting point is 01:01:40 you do quality but then it's like you still have these kind of niggling self-doubts that you don't know where they came from. So having time to continue to reckon with that, I think is really important. When you're touring so much, you maybe don't have the time. And so, again, you just kind of put them in a little shoebox in the back of your brain and you kind of pile some other crap on top and some Netflix and some Amazon Prime and you just don't look at it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 So it's good to have time to look at things. Isn't it amazing how we could get people to, I'm not, I'm going to say kiss our ass, but you know what I mean? And all this self-love, all this love. And then when we come back from all that love, we still feel empty. Yeah, it's a paradox. It is such a paradox and and i think it's important to to find the people with with whom you can have those conversations with if it's your sister if
Starting point is 01:02:31 it's your therapist if it's you know your fellow touring musicians like to be honest about that um because i think a lot of people would hear you know you say that and and kind of maybe like quantifiably understand it but then also be kind of like, man, what a dick, like he's living a charmed life and like not have the context to understand that what you're saying is really true and really vulnerable, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's hard.
Starting point is 01:02:52 I mean, it's hard to explain this life to people who don't know this life and discuss the low parts of the life. You know, it's not all life shouldn't be just all ups, right? There should be some fight. There should be some pull, right? Yeah, we're not a Coca-Cola commercial
Starting point is 01:03:10 where it's like highlights for you. You know, like we're definitely not a highlights for you. Like you have to have the sorrow to temper the joy. Otherwise it would all be boring. But I do really feel that art is the way that we can help, you know, find the healthy valleys in between, you know, the low lows and the high highs. And for me, that's really been songwriting, you know, trying to find some sanity in my own head. And that's for me been my therapy, kind of maybe somewhat uneducatedly but you know well-intentioned and
Starting point is 01:03:46 and that is really what counts you know what about falling in love in terms of you know with your guy like is that you know you talk about like the songwriting and stuff but the other things that you love as well like um is love important to y'all oh i think i think um i feel that love self-love is is really key and i and i do believe that you know it's somewhat tired and careworn but the idea that if you you know if you don't have self-love you can't love others but i think sometimes inspiration can strike in unexpected places like you know when you really fall in love with someone and you can see that they have flaws and you can see that they're being a little bitchy a little whiny and oh my gosh you're being so hard to handle right now but you still love
Starting point is 01:04:41 them i think it can provide like this, this, this different perspective on how you might view yourself. Like when you really love someone and there is like this, um, this empathy that you feel, I think it can sometimes inspire a reverse, but you're like, Hey, I should probably have some empathy for me because I I'm lovable. I'm lovable in that same way. So I think for me, like, yeah, falling in love with my husband and getting married and really cultivating that relationship. It's, um, it's been super educational for me. I think it's really opened up so much of wider of a vista of my, my capability for love than I would have even thought, you know? And so that I think falling in love can be, can be such a gift. Yeah, I agree. I mean, like falling in love with yourself again.
Starting point is 01:05:27 You know, it's like this idea of we give so much to everyone else. It's our turn to fall in love with ourselves. And so we could love others in a sense. Because we can't love anyone until we love ourselves. Yeah. It's crazy. Man, I want to make a damn instagram picture and just have those words andy that was beautiful y'all are sweet y'all are i appreciate you talking um i sorry we didn't even
Starting point is 01:05:53 talk about the record but you know i'm so fascinated with y'all and you know i didn't know that about you guys were childhood stars so that's uh that's fucking awesome and hey it's all relative and back at you. What a treat. Thanks for, for doing this podcast. I really enjoyed listening to the conversations you've had with people. And I think that you're,
Starting point is 01:06:13 you're providing a really, a really cool and unique space for people to share stories. So hats off to you, dude. I appreciate y'all. And I got one last question and I'll let you guys go on your, Oh, by the way,
Starting point is 01:06:24 you guys love in nashville you guys in nashville right yeah we're in nashville how's quarantine in nashville it's been pretty good i mean we haven't we certainly haven't gone out to any restaurants or anything but um but it's been it's been really nice um we live like 10 minutes apart from each other so we can kind of get together daily and do, do whatever, you know, make music together. So that's,
Starting point is 01:06:48 that's been pretty, pretty nice to have that still have goals that we can accomplish even though we're in quarantine. Yeah. That's awesome. All right. I got one last question. If you could tell yourselves at 17,
Starting point is 01:07:00 when you're just hitting the road with, how old were you when you started Larkin Poe? I guess that would have been like 2021 yeah 2021 okay so when you're 2021 um what what advice would you give yourselves being third year old women now at 20 i probably would say stop trying to be something you're not. Just embrace what makes you unique, especially as a player. I think I was really wanting to sound like Derek Trucks or to sound like the players that I was really admiring, David Lindley. Instead of just settling into what i sounded like as a player yeah yeah identity right yeah identity yeah i think i would probably tell 20
Starting point is 01:07:56 year old me like don't be afraid to take up space like it's it's been amazing to me to like go back and listen to early larkin Poe recordings and hear how much my voice has changed in 10 years like even just I think from a sheer perspective of volume like when I was younger I was so timid to like to occupy space and I would just go back to me and I would say hey man open your mouth like Let it come out. Sing. Be as loud as you want to be because that's okay and you deserve to be that loud. Well, fuck yeah, girls.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Thanks for keeping the blues live. Thanks for being good people and thanks for being part of the show because I feel you guys are important for the balance in the music industry. That means a lot that you guys are fucking fighting the good fight out here. Let's go, Larkin Park.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Hey, it's so good to talk to you, dude. Nice to meet y'all. We hung out a little bit on the rock boat, but I didn't have a conversation like this with y'all. You guys are badass, and I'm proud to know you.
Starting point is 01:09:03 And keep fighting. And you're going to be on that tour bus in no time. Don't fucking worry about it. with y'all. You guys are badass and I'm proud to know you and keep fighting. And when you get on, you're going to be on that tour bus in no time. Don't fucking worry about it. You'll get that bus. Don't worry about a thing, baby. Well, hey, we love you, dude. Have a great one. Be safe out there and keep riding music. The world needs it right now. Now, a message from the UN. I know just ahead someone's waiting. So I look for that big yellow sign. With coffee that's fresh like the morning. I smile when I walk through the door. All it took was just one time to meet her. Now I'm not a stranger no more.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I'm not a stranger no more There's a lady Waiting on me at the Waffle House She's amazing Calling all those orders out She'll say hello Welcome me in And there you have it. Larkin Poe. Unbelievable, right? Fucking badasses.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Thanks for taking the time from your schedules. I know you guys are doing a press tour, so thank you for adding me, your homie Frasco, to the press tour. That's it, guys. Hope you had fun. Kind of talked your ear off a little bit in the beginning, so I'll keep it short and sweet here. you had fun. Kind of talked your off a little bit in the beginning, so I'll keep it short and sweet here. Like I said before, love everything you do in life. Seriously. Don't forget to love yourself. Don't forget to give love to everyone. Let's stay optimistic. There's too much fucking pessimism in this world right now, especially through this quarantine where you look in the news like, fuck, here we go. Fucking apocalypse.
Starting point is 01:11:28 So if we can spread love, we can spread cheer, that's the most important thing. We got to keep supporting each other, keep loving each other. You know, shout out to Camu Labs for supporting the podcast. Shout out to Fourteener. Cannabis for supporting the podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Thank you for All that you do With my mental stability Of keeping CBD in my body And THC To get through The paranoia that is The real world right now But yeah
Starting point is 01:11:58 Shout out to everybody Listen to the podcast Love it I hope I love all the responses We're getting through it We've been having some killer fucking guests. I got Trevor Hall on the show. I think we could release it next week.
Starting point is 01:12:11 We're kind of talking about when we're going to release it. And we got a few great guests, Charlie Crockett, who's fucking awesome. And we got some big lineup. So keep listening to the podcast. But that's it, everyone. I love you. You guys are supporting me and musicians. I see y'all just supporting these streams and supporting all these musicians who don't have jobs. Keep up the great work. You know, we're trying to figure out solutions.
Starting point is 01:12:39 How to make a living through this year off with the venues closing. You know, it's a tough time for musicians. So give your local musician a hug saying, say we're here for you because we are here for you. We're all in this together. So ladies and gentlemen, hope you have a great day. Hope you have a great week.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I'll catch you on Thursday for the shit show or buy tickets for the August 21st through 22nd virtual festival with my band. We're going to play Keep On Keepin' On in its entirety. It's going to be fun. Support the boys. All the money is going to the band. Let's try to get those guys fed
Starting point is 01:13:16 while we are still on a hiatus through this fucking madness. All right, guys. I love you. Be safe out there. Wear condoms. Wear condoms. Quarantine babies are still happening. I've been seeing a lot of people like, oh, fuck. Yeah, we're expecting. I'm like, holy shit. The baby, it's the new age baby boomers. So wear condoms unless you want to have a kid or, and fucking do whatever you want to do. But, um, also STDs, you know, that's a real thing too, I guess. Um, thank, I'm so lucky that I haven't had any crazy shit like that.
Starting point is 01:13:48 But, um, doesn't mean you can't, you got to work on them. I know this is the, the raw dog, you know, we're getting bored of sex. We got to go not wrap it up and raw dog that shit. So just be careful, be cautious. You know, we might not be, you you know we're about to have a shitty economy for the next couple years so maybe not the best idea to have a kid during this situation but do whatever the fuck you want you're an adult all right guys i love you i'll catch you next week and um i'll check in with you later you tuned in to the third season of blissful blah at andy
Starting point is 01:14:23 fresco's world Saving Podcast. Produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angel, I'm Chris Lawrence. Please subscribe, rate the show on iTunes and Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon. For more info on the show, please head to our Instagram at worldsavingpodcast. For more info on blog or tour dates, head to andyfresco.com. Check out the new album, Keep On Keepin' On. Or let Andy entertain you at a Thursday night online shit show. Or at this crazy Saturday night wanna dance with somebody dance parties. Oh right, summer season is here, no festivals, no music. So instead of trying to keep the lip going and hoping to find some
Starting point is 01:14:58 shitty paid trombone at your big gigs this summer, I decided to reroute. Build in closets and wardrobes, build a tiny summer house and do some painting. It will be October in no time. And yes, I sort of hate it compared to the wonderful life I live. But I'm also thankful that people trust my skills or my good looks or whatever.
Starting point is 01:15:17 They have my back and I managed to make some money. The big danger in this line of work actually, it pays a lot better than being a musician. All right, how are you doing? Making ends meet? Worried? No work? Putting on a virtual dance party every week? Let's make sure to carry each other, get one another's backs, keep each other safe, keep each other sane, keep each other healthy. Let's unite, for it will be a long road ahead. See you next week.

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