Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Introducing Quantizr and how we can fix the music industry feat. Jeremy Salken & Josh Litwack

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

This week Andy is joined by Jeremy Salken and Josh Litwack, two of the founders of Quantizr, a new financial management platform specifically for touring artists. This one is for the real music industry junkies. Here's some of the highlights: Jeremy and Josh's backgrounds and why they started Quantizr Why the music industry is run on Excel Sheets and Google Drive How this compares to other industries (no surprise, the music industry is way behind) The economics of touring Jeremy explains commissions How Quantizr makes data more actionable for artists and their team Spreading education on financial literacy for artists Neal "Fro" Evans hops on to ask a few questions 👉 Subscribe for new episodes every Tuesday 📲 Follow Andy on Instagram and TikTok: @andyfrasco and @worldsavingpodcast Call and leave us a message and we might respond to you on the show: [phone] The World Saving Podcast is part comedy podcast, part music podcast — with raw musician interviews, funny podcast clips, and highlights from Andy's adventures on the road. Each week features musicians, comedians, athletes, or everyday legends. Watch this episode now on Volume.com & YouTube. If you like this podcast and want more, sign up for OnlyFrasco exclusively on Volume.com. They also have tons of live streams, concert recordings, and unique artist experiences. For all things Frasco, go to: AndyFrasco.com

Wow, and we're live. Andy Frasco's World Trade Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's your heads? How's your minds? How is your wallet? And today is the episode where we find out who the corporate is of why musicians aren't making any money. And we have, I'm calling you in there, baby.

You wanted this fucking shit. Let's go. We have one of my best friends started a business with one of his best friends. We have Quantizer here today. and I'd like to think Jeremy Salkin from Big Gigantic, the guy who is the smartest financial guy in the whole music scene. Jeremy, welcome to the show.

Wow. That was quite the intro, buddy. That was quite the intro. We're starting a revolution and it's because of you. So what are we doing here? Man, thanks for having us on the podcast. You want to introduce your partner? I will, yeah.

Yeah, so I'm Jeremy Salkin, as Andy put it. the smartest businessman of the music industry. Not true, but, you know, we're out here trying. We're doing the best we can. And I have my esteemed colleague, Josh Litwack, from Quantizer. So we're both... Josh. Yeah.

Welcome to the show. What's up, guys? Thank you so much for having us, Andy. It's a pleasure and honor. Before we chew out Jeremy for joining a cult, that is the software industry, they call. I'd like Tech pro Yeah, tech pro

That's what it is I like Joe's Tech pro era man This is tech bro era I love it He's like he feels a little more relaxed A little more stressed out A little more relaxed

Somehow Both at the same time I don't know We'll talk about So give me your background Josh Why are you trying to get Into the music industry And then we'll talk about the company

Yeah definitely Thanks Andy So very passionate About financial literacy I worked in the corporate world at Bloomberg and BlackRock for 10 years. I watched a lot of other people make a lot of money through digitizing their records and really understanding where their money is going. And Jair and I started collaborating, thinking about, hey, all the software that exists for financial services, how does it not exist for music?

How can we really help musicians and their teams ultimately make better financial decisions? And so for me, I love music and really just want to do what I can to help. well we we honor your service thank you thank you so much and I need a couple tech guys in the music industry to know that we're not getting fucked

you know this is one way but I want to I want to upvote exactly what you said Jeremy Salkin is the business guy of the music industry

the things inside and out score that's right that's better than mine dude you're crushing it way to go buddy you hooked me up dude

taught me the way that's why i trust you and i believe in you and i know you were i was one of the first people you wanted me wanted my brain on for quantizer let's talk about quantizer guys congratulations this is a big accomplishment you you're basically making musicians have the power back with their finances which i feel like is what needed to happen for sure yeah it's it's a little bit of that it's also like empowering managers, agents, business managers, the whole team to be able to collaborate together because right now the only software they have to do that is literally Google Sheets and Excel. That's it. The entire industry is run out of that with a little QuickBooks sprinkled in and some other software that's like QuickBooks. And I thought originally that was just Big G. That's just what I figured out

because I ran our business, you know, from the beginning until, you know, two years ago or a year ago. And I thought it was just us. This is what I figured out, you know, on my own, just using spreadsheets. And then through meeting Josh, through talking to a lot of other people, realized, oh, my God, the literal entire industry is run out of that. And it's the only industry left that's like that. You know, if you have a restaurant, you have toast, right? They have a platform, helps you do everything, helps you manage all these different parts of your business. If you are a realtor, you have software. If you are in financial services, like Josh is saying, you have software to help you. If you're in music or entertainment, it's not just music, sports, entertainment,

it's the whole freaking thing, but you're pretty much using Excel or Google Sheets and Dropbox and Google Drive and just trying to be as organized as you can with the tools. So what we wanted to do is build something to kind of bring it all together together and have a home for people to make better decisions know what they're getting into when they go on tour try to budget try to keep track of settlements keep track of money keep i mean it's it's a shit show as you know because you run your business yeah yeah it's uh it's insane and i'm i'm paying a person i'm paying people to help run it and i'm having man it's like everyone is kind of on the same board with it but i'm wondering what is the most expensive thing on a on a tour budget or on any budget what's the most expensive thing

I mean, you know, it depends on the genre that you're kind of in, but like production is definitely really expensive. I mean, commissions, yeah, I mean, if you're talking about that. The whole thing, what's the most expensive thing you've been seeing? Well, if you think, you know, I mean, commissions, for example, if you have a manager and an agent and they're getting 10 to 15, 20%, like that's 30% of the gross or however you're figuring it out, that's 30% gone right there. there, you know, right out of the gate.

Explain that to people. Which is a lot. Explain that to people as business managers. Wow. Okay. We're getting, we're getting in right now. So say you have a show and you get, you know, the venue pays you $10,000. In theory, your manager, your agent, and if you have a business manager, they all get a

percentage of that. So that if a manager gets 15% of gross. Of gross, of 10,000, they get $1,500. If the agent gets 10%, they get 1,000. The business manager gets 5%, whatever, that's another like 500. Some people have lawyers that also get a percentage. But, you know, all these people are working. That's $3,000 off of the initial guarantee.

Yeah. So the band doesn't see the $10,000. They see the $7,000. No, they see seven. And out of that seven, you also have to pay for your crew. If you're bringing crew out, if you're bringing, you have a band, you have to pay your band members. You're paying for gas. You're paying for hotels. You're paying for flights. Tor buses. If you have a bus, if you have a sprinter, you know, you also have other bills related.

If you, you know, the amount of like monthly subscriptions we have for like this texting thing and this email thing and whatever. Radio. At all, yeah. So that, that 7,000, you know, obviously if you're making other, if you're making money elsewhere, like streaming, which no one's really making a lot of money on streaming and royalties, but it goes into the pop. But really, the live is where you have a chance to actually try to make money. So, yeah, all that comes out of the seven grand. And then a lot of the times, if you're lucky, you'll walk away with like 20 to 30% of the money that you made.

So of that, $10,000, if you're lucky, you walk away with $2,000 to then split amongst the band. Right. If you're in a you, if you're in a five-person band, a four-person band, that two-grand is getting split four or five ways. So it's hard out there. So that's why you need a quantizer to kind of throw all these budgets, all these expenses into something that can be easily calculated of how to profit and how to cut shares. Is that right? Yeah, exactly.

That's kind of what we're trying to do is like give everybody a home because, you know, to their credit, agents are out. there like trying to get you gigs trying to get you as much money as you can what are managers doing managers are are juggling that right they're they're kind of talking to the agent managing the agent they're also managing hopefully your your recording career they should be handling some of the finances or some of the crew right they're supposed to be dealing with with all the things that um you shouldn't have your hands on so if it could be a million different things hopefully helping you with socials hopefully strategic stuff talking to you about cool what's your next um what's your next plan what's our plan in in 2027 what are we going to do and then they kind of tell the agent to go and either get gigs or

let's put a tour together or whatever but it all starts with the manager um and then your business manager is handling finances paying bills it feels like this obsolete it's a business manager not not really because it's just another tool you know that like how having quick books be invented, that didn't mean that accountants disappeared. It's just a tool that accountants use to empower them. But can this obsolete the extra 5%? That's not what the goal is. I think a lot of business managers that have clients will be like, cool, I can handle more work and have more consistency because business managers are also chasing managers and agents for money. So they're wasting time saying, how much do we get paid on this gig? What are the commissions for this gig?

They have a whole email chain back and forth. What I'm trying to say is, yeah. No one's going to be like obsolete. Of course a bigger business needs a business major. I'm talking about that musician who barely can make enough money for the 15% gross. Can they use quantizer to help them be independent still? For sure. Yeah.

That's what I'm asking. Definitely. Yeah. And I'm not trying to tell you that you're firing everyone. No, that's not. You sweat up here. Don't worry. AI.

I'm going to let my boy do. I ain't going to do that. That's hilarious. Yeah, what are you trying to get at? No, we're not trying to, we're just trying to make it easier. Because right now it's a shit show for everybody. It doesn't matter if you're us or you or Beyonce or freaking Taylor Swift or whatever.

It's really hard to manage the business of an artist or a comedian or an actor. The other part of this, too, is that the economics of touring has become harder and harder every single year, right? The cost of tour buses is going up. Everything is, you know, the costs are going. going up. And the reality is, is the manager, the agent and the business manager, they're all working for the artist trying to find the best way for them to be successful. But the reality is how are they allocating their time? Right. Like, are they allocating their time manually and putting something into a spreadsheet? Is that helping an artist win? No. What's helping them win is having the data to make

that informed decision so that they get that little bit of extra money on the guarantee or they structure that versus deal better. Right. And so that's what it's really all about is getting kind of all the folks working for the artist, really not having to waste their time on things that, frankly, technology can do now. Yeah, so talk about the technology of it. You're Mr. AI. I know this, Joshy. You created this beautiful app or program that is really, it's really beneficial.

I mean, I've read it, I've gone through it. Tell us what you're doing with AI to help everyone make everything a lot easier. Yeah, definitely. I grew within Bloomberg's leadership development program. And what I saw at Bloomberg was essentially all of financial services ultimately get taken over by data and analytics. And the first step is digitizing everything. Right. So historically, the reason why all these decisions were being made manually or in Excel spreadsheets, right, is because that's all that existed at the time. And so now what we're doing with AI is we're using this technology to be able to look for the key words that

really matter in contracts, settlements, offers, all the things that ultimately lead to you making more money. And then we've built calculators that leverage that information to help you really understand, hey, if I sell this many tickets, how much money could we make? And a lot of the times, a lot of decisions are, well, it depends. And a lot of the times if you have the data and you can do something with it, you can look at, hey, what did we do last year? And hey, what would the effect of this decision be. And so, again, this technology has kind of existed in financial services for many, many years. The real advantage that we have with AI today is that a lot of the things that are deep stuck within these PDF documents that are in someone's email that left the firm five years

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So you talk about it being available for all these other financial business. Why wasn't it not available for the music industry? Why wasn't that part of a conversation that we fucking musicians need to fucking help? Why is it taking until 2025 to get help for these fucking musicians? Well, that's an amazing question. And Andy, Jare and I spent an excessive amount of time analyzing this exact question. it upsets me too, right? It upsets me too, you know, and I think the biggest reason is, is it takes a lot of different types of people with a lot of different knowledge to make this

happen, right? So, Jair obviously has lived this pain for 20 years running his business. You know, I obviously have the knowledge in technology. Our third partner, you know, as an IQ lawyer that really understands these agreements. So the reality is, is to make something like this happen really requires a team like what we've assembled at Quantizer. And frankly, Andy, you said it best, man. We need guys like you speaking up and showing people that they need to take control of their business because there's a huge problem with financial literacy in the arts. It threatens our ability to continue having art. And I'll tell you, as someone that, you know, has seen my favorite band 106 times, the reality is, is I really hope for the future of art that

people take control of their business. Yeah. And that's what frustrates me about this industry, too. like the artist just wants to be the artist man they're all the they're like I just want to be the artist I have other people take care of you and then when they get fucked they blame everyone else yeah they should have fucking learned about this yeah I mean it's tough man it's not easy to understand a lot of this stuff you know you and I definitely put our heads in there and it's kind of like a survival tool like somebody's got to do it and like don't say like don't bitch about getting fucked when you didn't do the knowledge of actually knowing what what is the reason why you're getting fucked?

Yeah, I mean, that's a good point. But at the same time you're trusting these people, like you're paying them a percentage. They're essentially a partner in your business. Like, they're getting a bigger percentage than if you have like a, you know, investors or whatever. And well, maybe they don't want you to know most about this business because then they don't have a job.

No, I don't think it's that. I think they're doing the best they can with the tools that they have, which are no, again, it's Excel. That's the tool they have. They're out there. A lot of them are just trying to stay above, water like figure out the next tour if you have multiple clients as a manager and agent you're worrying about 82 different things so yeah i don't think it's on 1998 bro and

the fuck is happening we're running an industry from an excel sheet i mean literally dude you're not what's funny is like this thing they did a great job with that program if it's literally still the program everyone uses in the world right but like um but it's crazy let's take advantage of the a i this is why you're doing you're helping us like 100% we're doing. So tell them about how AI, like, you'll submit like a contract, right? Tell us all about how you could, how AI is going to help with this. Yeah.

Sorry that's making me pissed off. I know. I like that you get anger about it. No, Andy, let's go, bro. I love it, man. I love it. And just one thing before we get more into the AI. Just thinking about this.

Yeah. You're right. And Andy, it's crazy. This is a problem with education too, right? You know, Jare said it and I just really want to upvote this just a little bit more. The reality is, is I think a lot of people want to have more information. They just don't know how and the tools don't exist, right? So now it's an education game where it's like, how can we help people understand that these tools exist?

And they have the ability to do it differently if they want to, right? And that's what education is, right? Yeah, yeah. I just want to know. I want to, like, I get it. Us musicians are dumb or whatever they think we are. I disagree completely. I think the musicians are really smart.

I think they just haven't had the education to do so. It's like we learned our rifts. Let's learn our budget. I mean, learning, you know, learning that stuff, again, goes to financial literacy, which Josh is talking about and is a like, you know, something I think about all the time and I'm very passionate about it, which, you know, your podcast is a great forum for like finding ways to talk about that, tips and tricks, like whatever to help people because we're all out there just trying to figure it out. You're not necessarily getting that knowledge from a manager, business manager

agent, you're kind of hiring them to do it. It's not necessarily being like passed down to where you're like, oh, I'm learning how to fish. They're just like, I'm a fish for you. That's what I mean. They're just taking care of it. They're not teaching us too. I mean, that's not fucking our industry. Yeah. And, you know, but a lot of people,

that's why you hire that person. So you don't have to learn that. You can just focus on music. Right. And, and, you know, some artists are way more involved in their business like you are, which is great. And there's lots of artists that are trying to get this message out too. Yeah, that's true, man.

There's tons of people that want to help that want to share, you know, their experiences, their knowledge, things like that. Yeah, like Andy, our mutual friend Steve Polts and I did a financial literacy session at Folk Alliance on this exact topic of like, how can you help artists really understand their business more effectively? And although I'm not nominated for a Grammy with him like you are, I'm super proud of the session we did on financial literacy. And I think it was really well perceived.

So the more people like you, Andy, the more people like Steve Polts, the more people that are like screaming this from the rooftop, like, hey, we got to pay attention to this. That's what's going to change. And that's what's going to have the next generation of musicians being like, yeah, I'm going to look at my settlement statement at the end of the night. Yeah, we should. And like, as you're looking at these deal sheets, what are some of the question marks, like the usage or the overages and stuff?

Like you see those, that's like from this quantizer, you're realizing some of that overage stuff is fucking an anomaly. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of all over the place and it has been for years. And, you know, that's one of the cool things to go back to what is the AI doing, right? Essentially what you can do is upload a contract or settlement, whatever, a deal memo. And in like 30 seconds, it pulls all that data out, standardizes it so you can see a digital version of your show. Like you have to sell 459 tickets to hit back end to get overage. Backend is making money on top of your guarantee.

If you have a guarantee. And we pull the expenses. We pull the ticket, the different ticket types. You have a GA. You have an advance ticket. You have a day of show. You have VIP, whatever. We can pull all that information to give you like an accurate number of like,

hey, this is how much money you're going to make on this show. And, you know, so we're using technology. like that. We're not, you know, that's where the AI kind of comes in is to help do this admin that right now, if you're an agent, you have an assistant that's in there typing this shit in manually, excuse my French. They're typing it into a spreadsheet into Excel and they're doing this every freaking day. And then that goes to a manager and then the manager's looking at it and they might have an assistant that's also typing their version of it. What a waste of a fucking day. It's, I mean, it's time. They could be in the concordian sponsorship.

They could be on calls getting money. Getting that money. They're basically admitting. Well, that's the problem. But they're doing the best they can. Those are tools that they have. That's what I mean. Like, why can't, why did it take this law

to make their lives easier? I don't know. So they could focus on the shit that they actually should be focusing on. Like, figuring out the bigger picture. Yep. Yeah. You know, that's why we're here.

And fucking saints. And I can't believe, it just boils my blood. We love you too. hasn't been a business model like this for these agents and managers and business managers to take their brain off of the little things in life and think about the bigger picture shit for our artists. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy.

Yeah, the one other thing I'll add to this is just simplifying it, right? Like, the reality is, is this industry has, you know, a lot of different deal structures and formats and everything. And a lot of what you can do when you standardize the data with using AI is you can have insight. So really understanding not just what does the data show, but how do I interpret this? How do I? And this kind of plays to the educational angle, right? It's like even if someone wanted to see, hey, how did we do last year? What are they going to do? Go into their settlement statement, try and look at that number and do, right? The whole idea is that what you really need is the insights

that the AI provides along with the data. And so that's really how we can educate people to, you know, look into these things. And you're completely right in terms of the amount of admin that is wasted. It is truly mind-blowing. And if I'm going to say one thing about AI, AI has enabled it that this admin just isn't needed anymore. Anyone that's spending their time doing an Excel spreadsheets is ultimately wasting time. Right. And historically it was, hey, there was no other option. Now it's, hey, do you want to use the technology that you have at your disposal to help your artist win? Right. That's what I'm saying. Like, we all are trying to, figure out ways to think about big picture stuff.

I'm thankful that you're helping our managers and you're helping our business managers have a little more extra time to focus on the things that matter than just fucking admin stuff. I get like if it's spending half the job just adminning is half the job, then that's what I have a problem with. If we could eliminate the admin

and that gives them another half of a brain to fucking focus on the things that matter, like this is going to be so important. for our industry. Yep. That's the goal, man. I appreciate this. Thanks, bro.

I'm like, whatever you need for me. So what's, how does one, if, how does one if they want to get into Quantizer, how does one able to sign up? Yep. You can go to Quantizer.com. I'm good at this, huh? You're great at it. You're crushing it.

That's a great question. You can go to. It's so funny. You're like my best friend and we're talking business like this. I love it. You're my points guy. Dude, right? I help you get insurance, help you.

I'm just so thankful you turn this into a business. I just got a car. I was one thing too. Even the leasing, like I was signing contracts on paper. And then I had to sign again on a computer. Yeah. I wasted 10 minutes of my life. Yeah.

Waiting for that thing to print. This is what I'm fucking talking about. And the other side of this is speed. Right. So you're hitting on. hitting on exactly the other part. So the other thing is when you think about like the parallels to financial services, right, is that like, you know, a trader in financial services, what they care about is executing quickly, right? Same thing with an agent. They want to be more effective.

They want to do these shows faster. They want to do that. But they're just bogged down in, in the admin, right? And you're hitting the nail on the head, man. It's reducing manual data entry and booking shows faster. And then making sure at the end that it's count. Every business managers should have this fucking program. You heard of here first. I think every agency should have this program. Everyone should have this program. So it saves you guys four or five hours to work on other shit. Oh, four five hours a day maybe.

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how important this is and I know you guys been working your ass off you're like why the fuck am I working so hard on this for a musician working just as hard

and I know a lot of people I just want to say what you're doing is not only it'll be nice if you make a billion but also you're helping

people that really need the fucking help and we're all trying I know that's why you're doing it and that's why you're my best friend one of my best boys. Love you, bro.

Don't say that in front of Nick right here. You're one of my closest friends. And we're just, and we're not trying to fire anyone. We're trying to make everyone have a life. Because this industry, we're giving you your time back. It takes 24-7 to do this. And if we could take four hours of admin out of all these music industry's lives to, like, go hang out, their kids and shit and their wives.

Or be creative or be creative or have fun. we should take advantage of that. Okay? I get the AI slop with the art, people are pissed out. But this is the part of AI where I think is very important and very beneficial

to helping a business grow and helping you as a musician to understand how your business works. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, we're not going for evil AI where it's gonna, you know, whatever. We're not creating art out of it.

We're doing... You're helping other people create. We're doing what, you know, there's so much like AI or whatever intelligence in so many applications already that figure out formulas for you, that do this, that do that. That's all we're doing is a more advanced version of that. You're in luck. We have a musician who has tons of questions. A man from a band called Dopapod. Neil, come on the show. Neil has a bunch of questions for this. Neil. Welcome to the show, Neil. Welcome to the show.

Hey, Neil. How you doing? Fro. Hey, Neil, do you have any questions for quantizer as a musician? Well, I've only heard half of the spiel here because I don't have headphones. So I'm not quite sure of what's all available. Let me think of some questions. Okay. So I did sign up on the phone. I requested access. Oh, nice.

I love it. Whilst listening here. So I love that. Maybe I'll dive in and get some more questions. Your hair looks fucking great. Thanks. It's a nice cut. He's outfroing you right now.

You're in the middle of some serious fro bookends right now. I know. I always wanted an afro. It's like between two ferns right now. Yes. Do you have any questions? Okay, I guess like one of the biggest, I like how you talked about the contract thing

and it sort of analyzes it for you and tells you what you need to do because my God, that's confusing. Extremely. Could you do that? Can you plan a budget? Say you have a tour with like 10 contracts. You put that into the system.

Is it going to bust out the numbers that you need like at the end of the tour? Can it help you build the budget for your tour? If you're trying to like, we want to go home with X amount of money. Yeah. Or like just going to see what your back end is going to be. How much money do I have now for hotels? You know, this kind of thing.

What we do actually now is we have like a template that you could make for a budget. Because a lot of times it's the same, you're applying the same numbers to different situations. So you have a 10 show tour and you're like, cool, we know we have this many crew, this many band members. These are the hotels that usually happen. And you can go in and like change some of those variables to be like, okay, we're flying. from Denver to New York, so it's going to cost this much. Just kind of like update easy things, and it's figuring out commissions,

it's figuring out, you know, you have your budget for whatever production or a trailer, you know, van, whatever, and gives you this take home, right? And then you can go in and kind of like get as granular as you want to figure out,

okay, we want to make more money than this. You can go in and tweet that. We have these nice pretty reports that you can do, where you can essentially send the team a PDF that's like you don't have to read a P&L. This isn't like a balance sheet.

This isn't a sophisticated accounting document. English doc. It's English. It's written for, you know, for musicians, essentially. It's pretty. It's got pictures. It's got graphs. And it's essentially showing you, hey, this is the budget.

This is how much you're going to make. And you can also do one after. So you can kind of compare, you know, the two and be like, okay, this is where we won. This is where we lost? Let's try to tweak this. It's confusing you. Yeah.

This is perfect. This is exactly what I want to hear. Yeah. I was doing a lot of the budgeting, so that's my first question. You're the me of that. It's like, how do you make this part? You're the Jeremy of the band. You were doing, you're budgeting for doopod?

Nice. Neal. Nothing to do with why we're not on the road anymore. Wait, when did you join the band? Why did you go? One, two, carry the. No, I'm kidding. I mean, ladies gentlemen, also, another new member of our world saving team.

We got Fro from Dopopo. He's joining our squad. Hello. Thanks for being part of the... Another drummer businessman. I tell you. I love that. We're all engineers.

We have to figure all this shit out. I feel like drummers are the best business, man, because they know about numbers. Because we can count to four. What are you saying? Seven. No, like, you got to buy. Different than four.

We go way more than four. I'm just trying to figure out why... Guitar's are like, how much are we going to make on this tour? Four. Yeah. Four. Well, thank you guys. I'm being on the show. Thank you, Neil. Thank you.

Can't wait to have you in my arms these days. Oh, much more, much more than regularly. You or me, just so much hair on one podcast. It's going to be crazy. All right, guys. Thank you so much. Love you, buddy. Thank you. I love you, too. Do you have any last remarks before the fans, before they sign, for the band, sign up for quantizer? And the managers, please, God, managers sign up for quantizer. Please, I'm like begging managers to sign up for this. You would save so much time, and you could be, like, doing other shit.

It's fucking awesome. Yep. Other awesome shit. Either for you or hanging out with your kids. Or hang out of your kids. Get that time back. Get that time back, managers. Okay.

We got any remarks, Joshi, before we leave? I was just to say, thanks for having us, man. Thanks for spreading the word. And I'm hopeful for a brighter future with folks like, you know, all the guys that you got here, you know, moving things forward. We're just trying to get people aware so musicians don't feel like they're getting fucked because they're, they're not. not getting fucked if you know what's who's fucking you there you go it's consensual there's a better world ahead there's a better world ahead to sum it up there's a better world ahead have a good night thanks bro peace bye bye thanks bro hey everybody it's nick you just listened to another great episode hopefully

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