Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Music Industry Harsh Truths, Love is Blind, and Aliens

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

This episode of the World Saving Podcast starts silly and quickly turns into a brutally honest look at the music industry in 2025. You will hear unfiltered talk about ego, gatekeeping, inflated touring costs, bus rentals, backline fees, and why festivals feel like a risky bet. It is part therapy session and part industry reality check. The conversation then widens into community, capitalism, and whether modern music lost its rebel spirit. There is talk about audience expectations, Live Nation headlines, club economics, and what it takes to keep a band on the road. Things get weirdly fun with reality TV chatter about Love Is Blind in Denver, a detour into aliens and UAPs (also known as UFOs), like Atlas, plus how AI and copyright are changing creativity and marketing. A timely call from comedy legend Todd Glass adds real perspective on progress, history, and why the next generation might actually fix some of this. It is raw, funny, and surprisingly hopeful.  👉 Subscribe for new episodes every Tuesday 📲 Follow Andy on Instagram: @andyfrasco The World Saving Podcast is part comedy podcast, part music podcast — with raw musician interviews, funny podcast clips, and highlights from Andy’s adventures on the road. Each week features musicians, comedians, athletes, or everyday legends. Watch this episode now on Volume.com & YouTube. We're psyched to partner up with Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us about your musical awakening: [phone] Check out our new album Growing Pains on all platforms 5/23/25!! Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For all things Frasco, go to: AndyFrasco.com

Did you buy a new cat or anything? Got a new dog in your life? Nope, just one that's dying. You want to talk about that? Oh, Jesus. Oh, my God. This boy, mad at him. Wow.

And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Savant Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's our heads? How's our minds? How's the music industry doing? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, I love it.

I love the music industry. Yeah, it's so fun. Is every industry bad? It's so fun. It's so fun dealing with everyone. I like that there's no narcissist in it. Yeah, not one. Or people who are like really have a big ego.

Or daykeeping or. Yeah. Or pretentiousness or. Yeah. Hollywood wannabe shit by you live in Denver or. Isn't it crazy how it's just such a pure. industry it's so pure i love it yeah anyway how you doing nick good just being gate kept yeah what if i'm your gatekeeper i'm like no one gets funny man unless i get a little pocket

little little nut that's a really wide open for a joke there i'm not gonna make just say it no because it's racist no it's more anti-semitic i guess is that racist. Ooh, oh. Yeah, that's racist. You were even doing the voice. Jesus Christ. Why, you were doing the voice, even.

No one gets a little bit till I get a little. Yeah, but I'm not going to help him get some either. But I'm not going to help him get some either. I'm just going to take. Yeah. Oh, so you're an agent. No, no, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. No, I actually like agents.

We've been over this. Agents bring money. What? Agents bring all the money. I'm a pro agent, actually. I'm pro agent. You can actually quantify what they do. What?

You can quantify what they do. Explain. Well, like, if they, like, you can actually, there's a hard data to say, like, they got you this much money more than you got to last year or whatever. You know what I'm saying? With other. Everyone should call their agent.

Everyone, guys, this is what you need to do. Say, I love you. Tell your agent how much you love them. Yeah. Send them 30 bucks. Hey, grab my, hey, Bo. Send him a Vime for 30 bucks. Grab my phone.

I'm going to call John Bon Joaquin. I was an agent for, like, a year one time. What? I was an agent for a while in, like, 2000. I was too. It was actually pretty solid. I was actually an agent

during 2012 as well. Really? For who? Myself? Oh, okay. I did like some other, like... I also booked,

what's up, Bo, thank you. Bo's back. I worked for Dave's back. He's back in the office. I worked for Dan Rizinski. Oh, yeah. I was pretty good at it for like the bands I was trying to book.

A couple people I want to call. One, your agent. I want to call Bayless. Talk about our Bayless tour. I want to talk about our Bayless tour. I want to talk about let's call bonjourno first Benjerno

Metz are out of it Hey you're on the podcast I just want to say hi We're uh You're on the podcast Yeah Yep We're this is

We're doing What are we doing today Calling our agent to thank them Calling your agent to tell them Thank you for all the work For all the hard data For all the hard data You've been given us

Great metrics this year We just want to say Thank you so much For all you've due for us Yeah man Thank you. Thank you for all you guys do. You guys work hard. You put me out on the spot here. I haven't even had coffee in like three hours. I know. Well, that's as good. You're not supposed to be crushing a bunch of coffee. Your heart's going to explode, John.

Yeah. Somebody getting me a Celsius real quick. Proven to work. We're making sure all our bands, all the bands that listen to us, are going to call their agent and tell them how thankful they are that they bring all the money to the business. So I just want to say Thank you so much For all that you do for us Thank you for believing in us

Since the beginning There's no bullshit here We're just saying thank you Yeah It would be nine years next year Whoa Yeah what do you What do you say

I was your fifth 10 year What's a nine year anniversary Good Yeah I think of my roster If you look at it today I think he's been on The roster The fifth longest of everybody

Which You know I think that's true Hold on Let me check real quick kind of know. It feels like the right answer. Let's see he's a bit longer.

Okay. That would be... Well, Chakana Batman doesn't do. So, Les Claypool, Dengar's Skapelam. Congvin. Okay. They've been around that long.

That's three. New Master Sounds. That's four. My dude. And... But they're about to be done. And Tweezel Zappa is five. So you're six.

Let's fucking go. Who's five? Tweezel Zappa. Oh, nice. He was the longest, actually. He's 20 years. Holy shit. I know.

I was like in middle school looking Jusel Zappa shows. Well, John, I just want to, you know, no bullshit aside. There's no prerogative here. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all your help. It's my barrogative. Thank you. The time you're working so hard and always being there.

to, you know, I was showing up and never canceling shows, except for that one time. Said that one time. You felt so guilty that time. I know. You couldn't get over it. You were like, you know, you lived to the gym. I don't cancel shows. I'm always there for people, right?

I'm always there for people. Yep. Never cancel shows by how long as that. As long as that deposit goes through. I'm thinking of always being there. I'll see you Wednesday at the meeting, buddy. I'll talk to you soon Love you buggy

Bye The weekly meeting There John Bonjourner Thank you Kiss your agent He knows exactly why I did that I don't actually know what's going on right now

But I can kind of figure it out I guess No nothing There's no prerogative There's no gas light Perugative means choice Yeah I have a choice Okay I don't know if you're exactly

Doing that word right But okay you got a better There's no gas light There's no passive aggressiveness I just wanted to thank the agent for bringing us majority of the money that's all

I can't hear that how are you doing I'm good I'm a little tired but I'm pretty good in general looking forward to a great week What are you tired of

Just like tired I don't know You know what I'm tired of Let me fucking tell you Oh god Gas prices Hotel costs Flight cause

Okay all right That's all Gas is Is it high right now I never even look What At gas prices It's just like

Nothing I can do about it You know what I mean When people complain about gas prices. It's like, it's magic, magic juice that makes you go 80 miles an hour and you're complaining about it. No, no, no. You ever think about that, though. And then, like, the people who complain are the ones who, like, forcefully bought a car that only has, like, six miles per gallon. Yeah, exactly. Like, you don't need that 400, F-150. You're a salesman for an insurance company. You don't need to, what do you, why do you know that? I love people who

bitch about gas, but they, like, they're paying $700 a month for a fucking car that only has six miles per guy. Yeah, and then they Uber everywhere because they're alcoholics. Dude, you know what? Fuck! By the way, fuck the DMV.

Oh, I couldn't agree more. I was there all day to day. For what? Because my, I've been on tour for seven months and my tags are, I keep, I... No, you do it online. They won't let me.

They had to go inside. What? And then they took me to some machine that does it automatically. Yeah. And then they wouldn't let me even get the tags. So now I have to ride, dirty for another two months until

2026 tags are ready to go. On your personal vehicle? Yes. Well, luckily no one in Denver gets a shit about that and no one gets pulled over. I've gone two tickets now. Parking tickets, but like with my tags expired. I have a friend.

Fuck you, Cherry Creek. I won't say who he is. He has 2021 registration on his car and he hasn't gotten pulled over once. In Denver? Yeah. Damn. They got bigger problems here, I guess.

Damn. You don't really see a lot of cops. I don't want to jinx myself. Yeah. I'm not trying to jinx myself. I was like, I drove the Black Hawk and I was like driving dirty, but I also was sober. Did you gamble? I went to, I know, I just had a meeting with the bosses of volume.

Shout out. Yesterday? Uh, yeah. He took me out of dinner. How'd I go? It was good. He loves, he thinks our podcast is really popping off and he likes to think Jack. Yeah, the numbers have gone.

This is the highest our numbers have been for a long time. Yeah. So I think Jack. I like to think Matt. I like to think Eva. I like to thank you. Thanks, Nick. A thankless cog in the wheel.

Didn't you like when I said, oh yeah, me and Nick have a podcast together. We're fucking partners. What's the podcast name? Andy Frasco's World Savant podcast. What was that on again? Where was that? Was that on tour?

Like talking to somebody? I can't remember when that. We were talking to someone on the weekend. That was really funny, though. Yeah, you're like, yeah, we have a podcast together. We're equal partners. Everything is equal and we're the same. What's it called?

Andy Frasco's world. The Andy Frasco podcast. featuring Andy Frasco, a special guest, Andy Frasco. Produced by Andy Frasco, directed by Andy Frasco. Edited by Andy Frasco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry for, I don't care. I think it's funny, actually, so I don't care.

Do you think I am like that? No. I mean, it was called that before I was on it. No, do you think I am like that? Do you think I share the ball? Yeah, you're fine. I've never been pissed to you about anything like that. Because we have a little, we've had a little band,

drama and uh here we go you know lock in people we've had a little band everybody just went like this and they're calling everybody just leaned forward like it's the end of a we've got a old band drama and you know we're just kind of just laying our cards out on the table i mean i realize we haven't done that ever in the existence of our career 15 years really you've never laid the cards out i've never laid the cards out ultimatum style ultimatum and just what i want you know yeah i always just kind of it was really freeing to me to finally say exactly what i wanted yeah in something instead of just like keeping it in because you didn't don't want to like um piss people off you know like i think the reason why i get passive aggressive because

i'm afraid to talk to actually communicate so i don't communicate which makes me passive aggressive which also means I'm basically fighting with my own fucking head for not actually being honest. Does that make sense? It makes sense. I think it helps that you're more successful. Like you can be more like that when you're more successful. Like 10 years ago, you just kind of have to take what you can get, you know?

Right. That's true. When it comes to band members, it's like, what are you going to do? Like, ask someone to come work for you for 75 bucks a week. And then tell them exactly what you're doing wrong. Yeah, you got to pay a certain amount of money for you can be bossy, I think. Well, I always feel bad about it. about that because you know we all started this we all started music because it was free you know

it made us feel free you know it made us feel like rocking free why i started rock and roll is because in my imaginary head and i realize it's completely fucking off i know man the music industry is the least freeing thing on the planet well i don't know about that man that would be pulled on the point yeah i know you mean though yeah yeah sorry in entertainment least least freeing thing versus what you thought was free. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, there's other things that are terrible.

Of course. But you know they're terrible. Yeah, I over exaggerate. I'll never forget. When I first started dating Julie, I don't know, she'd start going to backstage and stuff and thought it was fun. She's like, the music industry is so, such a beautiful thing. And I was like, bitch, wait six months.

Now what she's saying about the music industry. Now she works in it. I know what she's saying about it. She hates everybody, man. No, not really. but she definitely, like, doesn't suffer fools, you know? There's a lot of weird ego going around these days. Well, yeah, it's like...

Everybody's trying to make up for their failures. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. It's not their fault they failed. I'm just saying, like... You're never going to... Almost no musician gets to where they dreamed of. Oh, you're saying as a whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, it... It takes a lot to be a fucking musician. There's no guarantee. I'm not trying to, like, woo's me bullshit. Mm-hmm. But... It takes a lot to fucking make this your full-time job. Girl, you ain't lying.

And it's not like, you have to be fucking dedicated. Yeah. And if you're not dedicated to it 120%, it's going to fucking eat you up. Just getting good at your instrument. Exactly. And that's 10% of it. That's like the least important thing now. It's just sort of annoying, right?

Or just like you get to the point where you're a really good musician. But you're also at that point where everyone who graduated college is a good musician. So how are you going to stand out? Right. I think a lot of people have a problem like with embarrassing them. Like it's a little embarrassing

to promote yourself. You know what I'm saying? I think that kills a lot of people early. They don't want to like put themselves out there because it's like they get shamed. I don't know. Everyone calls me a cheap ass because I haven't moved up to a big ass tour bus.

I'm like... What's the point? What's the, also like once you go there, your band and everyone, your crew is expecting you to be on a tour bus. They're already divas when I, got him to the bandwagon. It's not that much different than the bandwagon, is it?

There's a little more space. But a little, but not really. But I mean, you know, compared to where you were two years ago. But you can never go backwards. The many you start going backwards, everyone starts fucking... The fans start talking...

Overgassing. The fans saying, oh, this band dropped off or this band dropped off. Oh, the... We're expecting one thing. We want that now. Yeah, yeah. You can't...

So, like... Yeah. Armchair quarterbacks. Yeah, armchair quarterbacks. Jam band fans are really. bad about that actually they love to get involved in the business shit it's like fancy football for them or something but like they have the the fans have no idea how much it actually costs no they're just fucking they're they're playing fantasy football coach yeah exactly that's what's

bullshit and then that puts more pressure on the musician that's already having pressure internally and it's like they revel in it they like want people to fail weirdly you know what talking about i don't understand that shit i don't get when did we get to a society where we're We are looking forward to people's failures more than we're looking forward to our people's successes. The American way. But I think that's the problem.

The American dream made people so competitive that we don't have each other's backs anymore. But it's like these people aren't even in music. They're just fans and they're still rooting. And then they root for one band against, I don't know, it's so stupid. But it's even with like, um,

how do I explain this without? fucking burning it um but it's even with like people uh who get um it's even people with like setting up festivals or setting up tours uh-huh you know they're always going to pick what benefits the business instead of benefiting like maybe the musician wants this band to come on tour margins are razor thin that's why everybody's working in a very budget so i know but like if margins are are super thin we all got to work together and like kind of like play ball with each other like yeah like tour buses inflating tour buses inflating their costs just because they can that's insane fucking up the the the soul the the the living economy of

touring that makes bands not want to tour and then they wonder why they're inflated it because now bands are like no i'm good yeah i'm making money i'm fucking bandwagon or Twitch. Yeah, yeah. It's like they don't realize the ripple effect of not being in this together. Right, because they're like in that weird capitalist mindset where they're like focused on right now instead of five years from now. And that's why a lot of those tour bus companies will probably go out of business at some point. Yeah.

Tor buses are going to go out of business. They did it to themselves. They did it to themselves. They overinflated when they're trying to, they're still trying to play ketchup from five years ago during COVID. You're caught up, dude. They're caught up. I'm sorry, you're caught up. Start balancing the checkbooks a little bit.

Yeah, dude. Don't you want to build a relationship with your clients? Tour buses companies are, they piss me off so much. It's a racket. And it's like. So does, so is, um, so is rental gear companies. Yeah. They overcharge.

For sure. Because they know you have to. 200 bucks for a keyboard for an hour or something. They've already made their money on it. I know it's a business. Yeah. But like. What do they charge you?

10% of the cost of the instrument? You wonder why these promoters aren't festival Provenors aren't making any money because they're getting overcharged by the stage company. Yeah. They're getting overcharged by the porta potties. By the porta potties.

They're giving overcharge. Fencing. So many shit goes into it. Rental gear. Security. They're getting overcharged by all that stuff. Undercover cops. And this is where I feel bad for,

this is why I don't blame promoters for saying, fuck this. I don't want to do a festival anymore. Yeah, I'll go working fine. Finance. Fuck it. Yeah. If you're going to be miserable, you might as well have a job where you make money. And, you know, and I feel like that's what musicians are doing, too.

You're mad today. I like it. I'm not mad. You know what I mean. I'm just disappointed. Like a kid that got like seize on the report card? I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. I'm just not, you know. You know, I get it.

When do we become a country that is just, we're just, we're just. just so think we just think of just ourselves regan and that's not a community and that's why i think what makes me sad is we become people who are if you're not in my four people echo chamber i do not give a fuck about you yeah and i don't care i'm protecting my herd or whatever but which is fine but also we have to think about others and we have to fucking play ball all around with different ideas, different landscapes, different ideologies,

different thoughts, you know? Yeah, I'm with you 100%. I just don't think it's going to change. It's never going to change. That's what makes me sad. Like, I got in this rock and roll as rebellion. Yeah, it was. When did we stop being rebellious?

Imagine dragons, maybe. Actually, that's a good point. As soon as it target commercials with Imagine Dragon. I mean, you know what I mean. When did we stop being rebellious as a country? I'm telling you. America was a fucking rebel.

The 80s, I'm telling you. It's all Reagan. I'll start with Reagan. It's just people started getting rich in the 80s and the whole finance thing and cocaine probably how it didn't hurt and just, you know, nationalism. And I don't know. I just think it all started in the 80s. The 70s didn't really feel like that, did it?

Yeah. But that's kind of when rock music started sucking. Right about the, eh, it was more than 90s, but. Bands don't have each other's backs anymore. No, it's like sports. It's sports. Everything's competitive. Everybody talks shit constantly.

Unless you're on, like, the same management company or the same fucking agency company. No one's giving other bands a shot. They're just going back to the well. Passive aggressive. And everyone's pissed off about how successful they are. Nepo babies. Yeah. I'm like, I'm, the first time of my life, I'm cool with my success.

Yeah, you're doing great. Yeah, but, like, you know, I could judge my success on other people that I used to do. Slippery slope. Yeah, and I feel free that way. But the minute I started doing that is the minute I started getting lazy with my competition. You know, what you should do is also compare yourself to people who are doing much worse than you. We don't punch down, Nick. No, I'm not saying that.

I'm not saying make fun of them. I'm just saying you got to look at, you got to. No, and that's what I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more of, like, we're losing the sense of community because we're making this so fucking competitive. Yeah. And that's what I That's

Not the reason why I joined rock and roll Is there too many bands? If it was individual I would have been a fucking Band manager Which I was Yeah you're probably good at it I was already a band manager

I'm sure you were good at it For people who Are listening to this podcast I already been a band manager Why have they Just I gotta speak sublimely I can't

You're doing your wizard thing I don't know I don't understand it I don't know I don't understand passive aggressive stuff sometimes. I'm not very good at it. I'm not passive aggressive. Okay. I am more of, I've been in this industry. Yeah, since, for a long fucking time. And I think it's important that I have a say in this industry too. Yeah, of course. You're the one making all the,

like generating all the income. Not in my individual business. Oh, okay. I'm saying the people who are making the gatekeeping stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should bring the people in who've fucking did the dark work for 20 years. That's true. Who was in the dead and gritty. Who knows what it takes to promote a show. Not the people who gave up on music when they're 20, and now they're 60 years old.

You're speaking my language here, dude. And they're the ones running the things where they have no idea. They haven't been to fucking Manhattan, Kansas. Yeah, they haven't been anywhere, really. Right. Yeah. And that's what frustrates me. Those are my least fair people in the music industry.

Why are they pushing us out? Because they're nerds. I don't mean, they're just, they're jealous. No, it's competitive. Well, that too, but competitive and jealous kind of all goes together. Is this crazy talk right now, Jack? You think so? Am I really being that crazy right now?

No, you're being pretty much 100% correct, actually. But it's not like, I'm not like attacking anyone. This is a broad stroke. Yeah, broad stroke. This isn't, I'm not, this isn't on my individual pains. It's on the industry's individual pains of how we're going to figure out how to make this music industry successful for another 100 years to the next generation. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Or 10 years even. 10. Fuck. Three. Yeah. It's not going good right now.

It's not going good. Tickets are bad. No, everything's doing bad. Everything's inflated. The fucking CEO of Live Nations is that it should be more expensive tickets. That guy piss me off so bad, dude. That's what I'm saying? A guy making $150 million a year.

What are we doing here? What does he do that he gets $150 million a year off concert tickets? And he probably... We're not doing it for the money. No. Well, some people are But musicians don't make any money Yeah, no one's like, I'm going to play saxophone

So I'm going to be rich someday No We lost the meaning of why we're doing music And that is what makes me sad Yeah, I'm with you on that You know We We played music for the get out

The Getaway I'm sorry this is a 24 minute rant I like it'll be more fun later Yeah, just stick around We'll be funny Live Nation hits $7 billion and revenue for second quarter so that's 28 billion for the year you know assuming like it's ever all equal how much of that's profit though six billion in profit yeah fucking come on dude

that's a country yeah that's a country in europe and he want to charge more for tickets and this guy already makes a hundred fifty million dollars a year you know we all have to play ball i'm not not talking shit i'm not either but the fuck that guy kind of though what the CEO yeah whatever it's whatever he's the CEO trying to make more money for his company that's different i guess but what we have to figure out as a community for live music and how we're going to keep all these i'm talking about the vendors yeah who fucking do the festivals the festival promoters who now are taking risks to do festivals anymore that fuck that's most of our bottom line for musicians yeah especially in the jam scene we make money off

fucking summer festivals. We don't make money off club shows because the venues are charging too much for the rooms, yada, yada. We all need to be in a line together to say, everyone, we need to balance this shit. What you're calling for is a union almost. I'm sounding like a real socialist right now.

Yeah, but you're kind of like Bernie Sanders right now. Old Bernie Sanders. The problem with that is like we can never have a musicians union because all the musicians would have to do it together and they're never going to do that. But everyone needs to, like, say, okay, I get the old model worked, but it's like from CD to digital, you know, everyone had great model when we were selling CDs. Yeah. We went to digital.

They changed the model. Yeah. It should be the same while we're losing all these big festivals. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. That makes sense. Anyway, how was your day? My day?

I heard yours. Am I going to get in trouble for that? Why did you even say that you didn't even attack anybody? I know. You were being very broad. I'm just, it's just fucking, it's just like, everyone's like, we're a team, we're a fucking team, we're a team, brother, we're a team, we're the music industry, we're a fuck, we're the outlaws, we're the outlaws. Oh, really? Mm-hmm.

Then let's be a team. No. It's actually be a team. Yeah, until it's time to pick your openers. It's like our, it's like our seventh. evil frasco here my headphones are cutting out there we go uh i'm back am i wrong no you're right that's the problem that's why you're if you were so like that's why you're mad am i wrong jack bo am i wrong he's seen the p and l's working our ass off out here bo is fucking work he's the

working man and show business and fucking show business yeah dude he works for you that's he's on that and he's on he's on everything you know what i'm saying Yeah, bleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bleep. But, you know, but you know what I'm saying. I'm with you 100%. These type of guys deserve the talking to for everyone leveling out the industry.

Not me. You're fighting for the guys who are running lights. You're fine for the guys who are engineers. Monitors. Everyone who runs the syllabus of the business. Yeah. Not just the suits in the fucking 30-foot floor, the 30th floor delegate and work. Someone needs to fight for those guys

The guys that don't go to the show unless it's in LA My dad's gonna fucking hate these You turn into a real socialist Yeah, but you're right I know You're not being a communist at least No I'm not saying

Even shitty musicians need to make The same amount as money No, there's also too many bands I don't know I think more less and less bands Are coming out than ever Yeah maybe there's too many musicians actually Well we all got sold

The American Dream That you could do whatever you want Yeah, that was a lie. And maybe it was back then when there was last people, but now overpopulation. Now you can't do whatever you want. It's about how hard you're going to work to get what you want. But then you might still fail, though.

And you might still fill, and you've got to be okay with that. But at least in your brain, you fucking tried. Yeah, it's better to fail than not try. Rebellion. This is why we're in the music industry, people. Yeah. Don't be as scared to rebel. All right

So you got Did you buy a new cat or anything Got a new dog in your life? Nope, just the one that's dying You want to talk about that? Oh my God This boy mad at hell I'm just not mad

I'm more just like You're not wrong I'm like past mad I'm just like kind of defeated And that's what bones me out Yeah I gotta know what inspired this today What?

I got to know what inspired this today. know what inspired this today um i don't want to get into it's not the main details are not important it's just the the syllabus of how how we're running this industry is um unethical to how i yeah that's true the reason why i joined the music industry when i was fucking 11 years old reading all you need to know about the music industry by donald pass in my first ever book at 11 years old i read that book guerrilla marketing and I'm like and it's the same reason why he got fucking fired at Geffen Records at

19 when I wrote them a 200 page fucking I wrote them a 200 page business outlook of how we can approach this is 06 right after Napster when everyone's the stealing's done now it's going to Spotify and like New World and I wrote this whole beautiful marketing plan

beautiful that I sound like Trump there I wrote this great marketing plan and they fired me. They probably took all your ideas and fired you. They fucking fired me. And I was like, that was when I started become evil Andy. Evil Andy. Just like, I'm going to start a I'm going to start a new form of how musicians, I'm going to teach musicians how to fucking be self-sufficient with their shit, how

to be fucking powerful in your own world, not relying on others for your success. The only way you are, your success is if you put fucking ownership in the work ethic that you fucking do I'm gonna clap for myself thank you

so you've been watching love of us blind at all or yeah I love love is blind that pisses me off too I'm like I moved to Denver because we're fucking weird and I saw fucking love is blind

and they fuck it I told you I got through I was gonna be on that show no I didn't even hear about this yeah I didn't tell you this last year no no dude the producer called me up And say, hey, you're a, you're like a little famous single person in Denver.

I'm like, you know, so I was thinking about, like, that'd be fun to do. Yeah. But also fucking, you got to get married. You got to get married. Right. Well, they start, you know, they start nickpicking your personal flaws. How Christian are you? How many kids do you want to have?

Yeah. It's the most boring people I've ever seen in my life. But they should have, you know, Bo had a good point. They should do a little more of the other side of fucking Denver. Yeah, it's all like, C.U. Boulder finance graduates. Yeah, they had a guy selling watches and Dylan. Like, who fucking buys watches and Dylan? Also, what kind of, why that, no wonder you're single.

Like, the homie's wearing a $200,000 paddock watch. Oh, really? I was like, this is not a fucking Colorado. This isn't who I see at fucking dons. No. This isn't the fucking crowd to see it's Cervantes. And they're all like weirdly, kind of weirdly conservative. I don't mean politically.

I'm just talking about like their lifestyle. Yeah. They're like, like, where's the, no one. has the bag on them. I've never seen a tanner in Denver. No, I don't see him anywhere. It's like none of these guys has the bag on him. This is Denver, dude. One of these guys got to have the bag on him. Yeah. Someone told me one of the guys, the real estate broker, as like scammed, like, fucking 50 people. He was telling me that. He's scammed my favorite Asian restaurant.

What do he do? I don't know. She just said he scammed him, but who knows? He probably just, like, fucked him over in some deal. Oh, yeah. How are you going to scam over immigrants? Ryan Dempsey. Uh-oh. Ryan. I have to peace up, man. I'll be right. Ryan. Ryan, you're on the podcast. Oh, good. I'm happy to be on your podcast. Ryan Dempsey from Twiddle. Give it up for Ryan. Hey, Ryan. Can I clap? Yeah. What's going on? What do you know about these aliens?

Dude, things are getting so crazy right now. Uh, Congress is, um, literally like they're all looking into UAPs. So the word you, F-O became UAPs, and there are these anomalies that can go from one to 300,000 miles. I mean, yeah, like in the ocean, my friend from the Navy says they go one to 300,000 miles an hour. Oh, my God, it's nuts. And the weird part, though, is they also know exactly where the jets that are chasing them and firing missiles are going to land. And they fired a missile out of it, and it just kind of just blew it apart. Oh, yeah. They're way smarter than us.

Do you think they're here to harm us? I think they're here to say, I know you guys have the matches. you're going to stop. I would say the same thing. Like, the kids have the matches. I think dad's coming home and saying, you need to stop. So let's fucking,

let's all take care of each other, you know? And lock in. And lock in. Yeah, baby, let's lock in. Atlas is coming. We better lock in, Dempsey. What's lock in? Atlas is coming.

Lock in. Yeah. Andy, um, can I ask, I ask you for like a hundred grand, and I promise I'll pay you back. Shit, my phone's dying, Dempsey. I got to call you back. Sorry. Hey, but I do owe you a call. Let me get through this podcast, and I'll call you today.

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Anyway, aliens to the music industry. What else you want to talk about? Jesus Christ, what a fucking episode. God. Half-time show? Oh, yeah. Love is blind. Love is blind.

Then I was pissed. Then this whole week has been crazy. Then I was kind of pissed. It's a Jay Crew commercial. It looks like a Jay Crew commercial in that. I'm like, Love is Blind. He's really going to portray Denver, my fucking hometown. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which I fucking love. Dushbags. It looks like they all like. I was like, but I'm getting sidebars like, you live here, bro? I'm like,

you're watching love and's blind too, bro. Looks like a chain smoker's crowd. Jesus. Trying to inject some comedy

to this. Let's call Baylis. Let's call Baylis. Oh. Wow, what a... You might be picking up the kids at school. The Bayless Frasco tour

was amazing. We'll talk about them for a second. He knows. If I'm calling him at 320, He knows. He might be baseball. Oh. Call me.

Jack, how are we feeling about this episode, bud? I actually think it's kind of good. It's not like hilarious, but I think it's good. You know what I mean? It's stumping. It's better than nothing. Oh, look it. Life's not always going to be fucking roses and butterflies.

Nope. Almost never is, actually. The festival is fun, though. Holy smokes. Yeah, I want to hear about this. You went to Cleveland, of all places, and had a festival. We did, if I can't. Little Stranger is really big in Ohio.

Really? And we're decently big. We'll do pretty well in Columbus. It was a good meeting of the minds, but that fucking Nelson's legends. I loved it. It's a great place. Yeah. But some of the people who run that thing is pretty wild.

Scary, huh? They're like Hell's Angels and shit running that shit. Yeah. They had one person, because they also, like, it was a great experience. Like, 2,600 people showed up. With 2,600 Browns fans, hell yeah And it was like only, we only had three weeks to promote it I know, like people really wanted to come

But also like right next to the campgrounds There's like where people Like people just rent like a fucking trailer park Or whatever That part of the area A lot of people were getting kicked out For like smoking crack and shit Oh shit, hell yeah

But that was not associated with the festival No It was like the place is so beautiful Yeah, I've been there It's awesome I played a couple of festivals there, actually. But we had a fucking blast. And we went in the crowd and it showed how much love.

They just wanted a stranger and us to throw a festival. And I think we're going to do it every year, right? Should we do it every year? We probably should. A little strangler? Huge success. That's my serial. I mean, that was more people, more people showed to them than a lot of these festivals we're going to.

For sure. That's my serial code name, actually, I just realized. What? Little strangler. Little strangler. Oh, fuck. That was so funny. A lot of Browns jerseys out there I saw like that.

Hell yeah, man But other than that, it's been good It looked really, like it went really well How'd the band play? Band played great I thought our second show was better than our first Because why?

I don't know Me and Strangers A little bit of this competition Which is kind of like a healthy competition I guess But we still like You know, even when we're competing We still have each other's backs

God damn it Why am I like this? I don't know, man. You were pretty chill right before them. Let me turn the mics on. Here we go, baby. I'm not mad. I mean, you're right.

I'm like, not mad. No, I get it. I just feel disappointed. I'm about. I'm just disappointed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, you know, I want us all to come together. Lock in before Atlas shows up.

I'm ready for Atlas. Let's do something new, man. I'm ready for some new shit, man. Fuck it. Do you think, I just don't want them to like, I don't want to, if, If they're going to kill us, I want them to kill us, like, right away. I don't want this to be, like, a fucking slope. No, no, no, no.

I want to be vaporized and just go to wherever I go. Just go, man. Just whatever, it's fine. Let me get some tacos first, maybe one last time or something. But, like, I don't know. I've always thought it'd be kind of cool to be alive for the end of the world. Yeah, it'd be fun. People always get weird when I say that.

I'm like, well, someone's... We also don't have kids, so it's not as scary for us. That's true. We don't have kids or anything really. We don't have to, like, we don't have anything to look forward to. We don't have any purpose or meaning in our life, so yeah. Nothing matters. It is much easier.

World saving podcast today is just... We're like... World saving podcasts. Let's end the world. No, no. I don't think... I think they come and give us knowledge. I'm going to be optimistic about this.

If the aliens come, they're going to come just like... Why would they come all the way here to kill us? Because we're not a threat to them, so maybe you're right. Right. What would they do? They need our resources. They're going to travel that long? What do they need water?

Okay. Then we're fucked. Then we're fucked. If they got here, they have more... They have better shit than us. What do you know that knows aliens? Do you know, anyone know an alien? I mean, the aliens thing is pretty interesting.

I just feel like nothing ever happens. It's always some threat of this every two years and then nothing happens. Right. It's going to be a... Do you know about Project Blue Beam? What's that? Google Project Blue Beam. Sounds like an ice cream company.

This is turning into a Rogan podcast immediately. Yeah. Without all the viewers. Project Blue Beam is Serge Monocet. What's the guy that, like, thought of it probably. The Canadian... He's dead, actually. What is Project Bluade?

Drones It's basically like The recent surge of mysterious drones Studies blah blah blah Project Binary since mid-November The lack of answers Fake They're faking the alien invasion

They're faking the alien invasion I mean that seems like some shit Because there's a bunch of shit they're doing They don't want people to see Epstein files, etc. Everything's just a distraction man Everything's just so distracted man It's so hard to give a shit

you more about this episode should be called dun dun dun dun dun down I know we need to have a dun dun dun counter in the corner can we do that Brian yeah I don't know the what's really fucked up

about this AI thing is like I think this is actually good for social media because no one will fucking want to be on social media anymore because everything is so fake yeah it already was but now you can like

actually prove it now it's just like boring there's no realness yeah social media is kind of dead I'm kind of over social media it's just not fun so what are we gonna do with our business If social media is dead.

I mean, it's good for marketing, but I'm just talking about, like, the... Yeah, yeah. It's a good marketing platform, but besides that, like, just like the shit where it's, like, I don't know. Just, like, post about opinions is stupid, but it's good to reach people. I think so, too. I don't know, like, it's, you know, the more good something has, the more bad it has, I guess. For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction, Newton's third law of thermodynamics. You know, like, all jokes aside, but between love is blind, I kind of love these, like, social experiments about getting married shows.

married at first sight no what's that all about it's like you marry someone right away and then you have to like work it out i got a girl that comes to trivia regularly i'm not going to say her name was on one of the seasons of that really yeah she comes every week i'll show you did she divorce did she divorce it didn't work out i mean only a crazy like the guy was worse than her but it's for crazy people and then they edit it to make you look even editing is a powerful tool man you know you can make people look really crazy with some good editing yeah can you imagine if you cut down all the shit i said out of context. I could be the most racist man on earth.

Well, that's a problem with this, like, open, like, the Sora thing. You heard about the Sora thing? Open-faced AI, where you could kind of, like, if you have, you could have control of people's AIs and make these videos. Yeah. I don't know. There's going to be good stuff and obviously terrible stuff that comes out of it, just like every other thing. The problem is you can't fight it. Should I open my AI so people can make videos?

I think it'd be fun for my fans. Yeah, I think. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's not that. I don't think you have to, like, license yourself. It'd be awesome if like... Hopefully there's a way you can find to make money off it. That'd be cool.

Holy shit, Frasco is the Pope. And there if people believed it. Just throwing oil on people. Throwing oil. Throwing Yeager Meister. What would your Pope name be? Because you have to change your name when you're Pope. Um, is it Sir?

No, it's Pope something. Oh. Like Pope Leo's name isn't Pope. Pope. Because it isn't Leo. It's like, John. Um, Open A, right, copyright. It's like when a, the Queen does that too, you know,

Open AI. Explain this. All right, go down. So, AI, the copyright stuff, it's been weird to see how AI performs on stuff that you can't, you can't say, hey, I need you to put me in a Star Wars form. No, I can't do that. But if you say all the things that Star Wars is, then they put it in. That's still copyright infringement. I did that to make my friend look Arab the other day.

Hey, come over here, talk about it. We have our tech guy here. Jack, producer, get in this, Mike. So what's going on? So the issue is that OpenAI doesn't care about anyone's copyright. Put the mic closer to you. Or intellectual property. Okay.

And so their policy is basically we're going to do it anyway, and we'll see if anyone finds us for it or sues us for it or whatever. Well, that's bad for the music industry. Oh, yeah, it's bad for every industry. and so there's going to be a bunch of lawsuits and eventually they will have who are they suing though chat gbt yeah people will be suing open ai so like disney will sue open ai or nintendo or whoever you know whatever these companies are whose IPs are being used without their consent right um so there will be a bunch of lawsuits open i i will probably lose those lawsuits and have to pay a bunch of money

but they don't care because basically as long as they get there first and get the most users as quick as possible, they'll make so much money that even if they have to pay billions of dollars of fines and stuff, it's worth it. Yeah.

So what's the difference between chat GPT and Google AI? None, really? Yeah, they're kind of the same things. The thing is like Google owns YouTube, so they're able to crawl YouTube for stuff for AI versus Open AI doesn't have their own platform

so that's why they're letting everybody just feed them stuff but yeah it's like the tech company that's how they all do it basically it's like the move fast and break things Mark Zuckerberg deal like we'll just build it and then

we'll pay the fines and it doesn't really matter which shows a really broken economic system It is. Yeah. It's like, everyone's like, just sue me. Yeah. And it's a battle of how much money you have.

Sue me. I have $7 billion. Yeah. And that's not fair either. What, that's like, well, that the wealth is that 2%. And then everyone else can't afford to sue the 2%. Yeah, you know, it's, it's, uh, oligarchy, you know? That's great.

We're Russia now. Well, anyway. This is like the most sobering, fucking podcast of all. So we not post this. This one maybe is just for the archives. I don't know. For the only Frasco subscribers. Yeah.

Hello, everyone. It's Adi Frasco, your local drunk. We're here to support Gardenista. Gardenista, our sponsors. So I've been sub-intuned this from Jameson because I like the idea that there's ginger, lime juice, and green herbs in this. So I kind of feel healthy drinking this.

I mean, they got all these different ones. Like, I was kind of nervous about this bourbon cocktail. But it's bourbon whiskey, green herbs, There's lime juice, ginger, and jalapagia. It's got a little spice to it, but you put some ice in it, and it's actually a cocktail. And, like, I'm not really good at proportions, so it's already made for you. Look at this. It's cute, too.

You could be on your table. You're like, oh, look at you're sophisticated. Do you want pop off on your kitchen table, or do you want something that's pretty? Gardanista, vodka cocktail. Grab it. Tell them Frasco sent you. All right, guys. Are we done here?

No, I'm not done. and another thing hold on unless it's called Todd maybe Todd will have something nice to say Andy Frasco let's keep it going yeah let's put this one on the Patreon or whatever or the only Frasco

I think this could be fine No I think it's actually not that bad Everything doesn't have to be fucking God damn he put you on Do Not Disturb Cah Call me Cale me Um

The thing with it's like what we've been I've been harping on this for years tech nerds should not be in charge of anything. They should not be running companies. They should definitely not be in anything creative. They don't never, they've never made anything. They got picked on their whole life and now they're taking it out on the world. Right.

I've been saying this and guess what I was right, unfortunately. Yeah. I hate that I was right, but I was. Today, Josh Fairman called me when I was in the shower just to ask me a trivia question. Yeah. Oh, really? That's awesome. He goes, what, he goes, what play was Lincoln watching when he got shot in the head?

Yeah. And I knew it. Yeah. they were impressed so if you know it put it in the comments hold on it's called a call to action

call to action I'm calling my dad oh no he's got something to say president fresco he's got something to say he won't answer he knows everyone doesn't answer now

because I know if I'm calling them randomly at 3.30 p.m. Yeah yeah yeah yeah they know they're on the pod the phrase Nazi SpongeBob is in this article so that's cool. Nazi SpongeBob. Oh yeah, I heard about that.

AI is going to heal everything. Nope, Nazi SpongeBob. AI is going to make everything so much easier. You're not going to do your taxes anymore. Something's going to take out the trash for you. Actually, nah, Nazi SpongeBob. Now you want to do menial tasks. Your calendar will be done.

Someone's going to send emails for you. Nah, Nazi SpongeBob. Sorry, people got it. We're making Nazi SpongeBob instead. quality of life is going to go up so much we're going to live longer it's going to be easier everything's going to get cheaper nazi sponge bob i do like this sore app it makes it's kind of fun it's just fun yeah until you get nazi sponge bob until you get nazi sponge bob or whatever version of that we're going to get

nazi frasco at some point we're going to get nazi frasca you know what i mean criminal Pikachu. Sexual Assault Spider-Man. Look at this one I made. Look at this one I made. So stupid. But you could do like, finance bro Bart Simpson.

I did Jake Paul holding hands on the beach and saying, will you spend very slowly cuts back to Jake's say, do a line with me. Well, that's funny. It looks like you? No, it looks like Jake. Jake's the one who has open AI. He said you can make whatever you.

Yeah. Jake's on the, always on the cut. cutting edge of whatever's going on, unfortunately. I did this one. Yeah, you, fuck you. And you over there, fuck you. Not you, you're cool. That's Greg.

Back row, fuck you. You with the laptop, fuck you too. In the whole side section, fuck off. You just type in like a two-sentence prompt and it makes that? You can make a paragraph. Oh my God. I'm going to spend all night on it. Dude, I had so much fun last night.

I need a bag in that. I need a bag in that. All right, guys. Anyway, follow your dreams. What's cool about AI? It's going to like, it will like, go ahead. and like all these like stupid things no nazi sponge bob actually no well like you know AI's getting so good like you don't believe anything anymore i never did to begin with so now

i believed everything i know you i was the believer of the american dream sometimes i just want to pet your head and say yep everything's real buddy everything is real yeah nope musilini rick and morty sorry all right guys you don't understand this is going to usher into utopia no nazi sponge bob The tech people promised us a utopia And we got Nazi SpongeBob Yeah, exactly You know those posters Jerry Jones is basically Nazi Sponsbrough

Anyway, what? You know those posters of like The Fute in the 60s They made the picture of the future Just fucking flying cars All we have is Nazi SpongeBob now Exactly We do have flying cars

They're called helicopters people Yeah I had those for a while I don't know Yeah Lots of people can barely fucking driving Denver as it is on the ground and everybody's fucking tags are expired.

Last thing I want is people in the air driving cars. We have Nazi SpongeBob and P-Ditty. That's our future. And a real P-Ditty. Anyway, follow your dreams, people. Yeah. There comes that fucking, what's it called?

Atlas. Here comes Atlas. What if it's just 800 Nazi SpongeBob? We were real the whole time. I told you. They're just speaking German. We're looking for Andy Frasco. he's talking about freedom yeah we're here to fucking help the lakers

this will help your fancy football team guys it'll tell you who you start and sit who to drop and also will give you a lot of Nazi SpongeBob that's funny a lot of people are using chat GPT as their therapist yeah I do that all the time I'm like am I cool am I smart am I handsome here's a picture of me am I handsome no I'm just kidding it's pretty uh I haven't used you yet I use it a lot I use it for stuff

What do you use it for? Sometimes, just like a search engine to write trivia questions. So I'm like, give me 30 examples of celebrities who've gotten DUIs. It's easier than using Google. It kind of just does it for you. You know, puts them all in one place or just shit like that. Am I cool? People like me.

You know what I mean? Am I a burden on everyone around me? Should I just become Nazi SpongeBob? Nazi SpongeBob is so fucking wild. Dude, look at it. It's right there. Where is it? I want to see a picture of it. They want their AI-generated things on the app, like Nazi SpongeBob, Criminal Pikachu. Nazi SpongeBob. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. He's doing Rogan next week, actually. Did you know that? There it is. Did you see it? Go back. What, Nazi SpongeBob? He's going on Rogan next week. Oh, where's like the actual movie? It's not a movie. It's just like a character they made out of them. Oh, my God. That's so crazy.

People are obsessed with Nazis right now. Everyone's a Nazi. Yeah, why does everyone love Nazis? It's just the only thing they know about that's bad. They can't, no one read anything or did any work. Why is he so happy? I know. It's like SpongeBob is happy to be a Nazi.

He's luring me in with a smile. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Your best friend's Jewish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you're my second best friend. Oh, I forgot the present. Damn it. You got a present?

Kit got you a present for being my second best friend. Shut the fuck. Well, I'll just tell you what it is. What is it? A dream catcher. We can hang it right here. Fuck you, Kit. We can hang it right here.

Fuck you, Kit. I'll bring it next time we'll hang it. I come and watch you, I know exactly when you know when it's my fucking name, my, the name on the, that you have to pick. For what? For trivia. I know exactly you know. You don't give it to me. No, he doesn't know.

I don't tell him anything. It's very, very good. I liked our name last year, last week, Julian's black friends. Yeah, but. The winner was good, too. Government slut down. Government slut down's good. Government slut down's pretty good.

That's good. Yeah. You've won best team name. No. I don't get any respect here. Oh my God. Shut the fuck. Everything is just, everyone just...

Everybody's out to get Andy. Everyone's out to get in. A million dollar house with this podcast named after him. And it's selling out shit everywhere and fucking getting laid all the time. Yeah, I mean, it sucks. Everybody's out to get you, man. Shut the fuck out. Nope.

I won't. I won't shut the fuck up, Andy. Because I'm Nazi SpongeBob. You came on dessert just to fuck with me. It's good for you. At least I do it in a loving. I know I'm acting like a whiny bitch. No, you're not being a whiny bitch.

You weren't whining. You were just laying it out there. Just laying it out there. It's okay. That's why I'm here. It's your podcast. That's what I'm here on it. You can talk about whatever you want on your podcast.

It's called Andy Fresco's podcast. Okay. A glimpse into the mind of Andy Fresco. That's what happened to Alex Jones and he got canceled. Exactly doing what Alex Jones is doing. He is Nazi SpongeBob, actually. He is Nazi. Dude, did you see that picture of, have you seen him?

He changed his, he, his mustache now not, Adler. Do Alex Jones new mustache? It looks really good. I mean, it's terrible. What the fuck? Remember Michael Jordan did that? Oh, yeah. For a Haynes commercial.

Alex Jones's new mustache. Isn't that insane? He's, I know he's doing this for a promo. Well, obviously. To get clicks. He kind of looks like him. He has the Hitler mustache. He looks like him too, like in the eyes a little bit.

Yeah, he got sued for a billion dollars and lost. And then he saw on, who paid for that? He has that much money? I don't think, I think he's just funding it himself. I'm done with this guy. Delete this. God damn. This guy's a piece of shit.

It looks like my great uncle or something. Alex Jones. Nazi SpongeBob. Like, there's got to be the, there's got to be something that balances all this shit out. there is but it's not interesting so people don't click on that what being good person isn't that interesting online so people is i don't know you gotta be oh the opposite of that actually it's golden retrievers balancing all this this like uh there's more good people than bad people the problem is bad evil is not entertaining so people want and evil is more powerful i think actually

why are people more interested in evil than good because it's more shocking okay no keep gone with this I just think it's more shot. So my whole thing is, like, it's evil is more powerful. But I do think there's way more good people than bad people. That's why it only takes, like, one evil guy, Nazi SpongeBob, for example, to get all these people riled up and, like, do something like that. Or, like, you can give me another, like, who's another bad person in history?

Mussolini, like, everyone didn't agree with him. He just had power and was evil. So only takes, like, but, like, I don't know. Everyone thought Bob Ross was boring. Exactly. Bob Ross was a good guy. Yeah, exactly. It's boring to be a good guy.

some some all the good people you don't know are just going to work and fucking raising their kids and donating to charity and crank and hog a couple times a week or whatever you know what i mean it's these nazi sponge bobs that are ruined it for everybody i you know i want to tell this story on the podcast because it kind of makes sense uh when i took when i picked up balas's kids yeah and that that kid was trying to make fun me like you look like bob ross and i just immediately said bob ross got pussy to this fucking third grader i'm like what a am i doing yeah he was horrified that guy was like he ran away you do have a weird dichotomy where you're amazing with kids but also i wouldn't want you around my kids bob ross got pussy kid okay you have such a weird dichotomy with children yeah the kids really love me or they're fucking scared to death of me yeah but i mean like you're good with kids but also sometimes you say stuff that you shouldn't say around them but also you're you're really good with them at the same time it's like billy madison william william medesan yeah you're kind of like nasty sponge bob you're like heart sponge bob okay gotta go gotta go um hey guys like i said we're gonna have bad weeks

it's fine i think this is a fun episode i just think you got serious for a while and that's okay no i'm saying like we're gonna have bad weeks in life we're gonna have serious weeks in life yeah yeah and that's fine you can't always be fun you can't always be fun you can't always be sad you can't always just be crazy but it's fun to have a little bit of all that this is what living's all about have a little crazy have a little get serious every now and then joke around don't take it so seriously fucking feel be sad these are the every crank one out once in a while crank one out fucking blow the load we're gonna we're gonna call you we're gonna call this festival next year holy loads clear the mechanism man holy loads we're just now i'm going if it's called

Holy Love. Full on Eric Metcalf Brownsders. You know what I'm saying? It's okay to not feel yourself feel like yourself every now and then because it tests you what yourself is and who you are is all the little things that make you beautiful. Not just one thing. The seriousness, the happiness, the sadness, all that we should celebrate. Not just the happy moments, not just the sad moments, the weird moments celebrate every inch of you hot that was very hot every girthy inch of you every girthy vainy coming

interview sorry I really and realize that every party is beautiful yeah okay and if you're mad at the halftime show you're a bitch let me add that okay yeah if you're mad at the halftime show because he doesn't speak English fuck you by the way did you see the new news

today what that one organization turning point they're doing their own alternative halftime show halftime show. They didn't have like Kid Rock. No, like Christian, like Christian artists. Like Kid Rock's not religious enough for them. They need like, they're having like a revival.

It says it, why, I don't want to get into religion, but it says it's over for us. I'm so sick of people acting like it's like no one can be Christian. It says in God we trust on our goddamn money. We got shows. We're playing in Boulder on the 17th. Yeah, I got SpongeBob. We're playing St. Augustine, Florida on the, on the 19th. That would be fun

We're doing a private party It's like kind of culty It's gonna be awesome Yeah that's a cool company They're fun Yeah You gotta get in with them somehow Yeah they're really cool

And then 24th We're playing Chattanooga Tennessee Way down yonder on the Chattanooga Oh Todd just called us perfect Perf Todd Newport Kentucky With Government Mule on the 25th

Oh And Charlottesville Virginia on the 26 Shout out to everyone listening to the Warren Haynes episode yeah dude it's going really well it's fucking crushing

he's an interesting guy all right here we go Todd called Andy Frasco well at least let's hear what Todd has to say about palate cleanser

and all the anger yeah oh god damn it people putting you on block man call me try again the music industry is not supposed to be a competition

we're supposed to be friends as long as I'm in first place. Dude, this new iPhone is fucking horrible. I can't even text. Fuck Apple, dude. I am one of the... I ain't he mad at his hair this week, man?

You got the point, man. I pay... Oh, here he is. I pay... They are way too expensive. I pay for a new phone every fucking year. Yeah. And it's bullshit.

Hi, Todd. You're on the podcast. I am on the podcast. You're on the podcast. Todd Glass, everyone. And Nick's here. Oh, well, I have to perform. Hey, I don't understand why, you know, like Reese's cups, they double stuff them, they do well.

And then you see, Orioles are doing very well double stuff. Kit Katz double stuffed them, and they're doing well. So if I was the owner of a company, I would think, oh, people like double-stuffed shit, Americans. So what the fuck is Pop-Tart waiting for? Yeah, thanks, Tom. Finally. All right, hang up on. Hang up.

Oh, they go, oh, double-stuffed the inside. side. I said double stuff the whole fucking thing and shove it in the pouch and I'll shove it up my ass and we call it a day. Andy, how can I help you? Todd, I want to talk about our, we're, it's coming up. We're doing the Todd Glass, Andy Frasco, Thanksgiving,

spectacular, where we're going to be taking mushrooms at your house and eating Thanksgiving. Can you tell the audience what is going to happen at this lovely event? Well, thank you for asking. Is anybody else with you? Doug, Nick Gerlock. He wants to come to

come to. Nick, please. Hi, Nick. Okay. I'll make it simple. So I don't like a lot of, like I like to enjoy things, not get caught up in the, you know, like, oh, I got to do this, I got to do that. You know, I always try to go, how can I enjoy the holiday, make it look cool, but with not a ton of effort.

So what we do is, I said, last year, remember I said, we'll have our favorite Thanksgiving sandwiches. So some people bring turkey, bring stuffing, we'll put it all out with like five types of bread. People can come and they can make their own sandwich, right? Fuck that. That was even too hard.

So I'm telling everybody. It's still a lot of work. I want it to look nice. So this year I'm saying, I don't care if you make it at your house or there's somewhere in L.A. where you know that makes a great Thanksgiving sandwiches. Everybody brings like two or three for their favorite Thanksgiving sandwiches. We get here. We cut them in three, put them in a basket. And then I'm going to make like a Thanksgiving like casserole because that's easy.

Boom. You put it in a crock pot. It's got everything in it. you know, like turkey stuffing, all that stuff. Everybody bring it, and then it's out. If you won't want it, 6 o'clock to eat one. If 11 o'clock, you're hungry again, you go get another one. What about the mushrooms, Todd?

What about the mushrooms? Three minutes on sandwich. I'm going to be doing all this other shit if I wasn't fucked up on mushrooms. But are we going to do all this effort, and then we're going to be tripping dick and not be hungry? Well, you know, I'm sorry, I told you the boring part. All Andy wants to know about is the mushrooms. Three minutes on sandwiches with no jokes. Probably sitting there rolling your eyes that all the other stuff.

stuff. So, um, yeah, no, no, no, no. Because I did, we'll do, we'll eat later. You'll always get hungry. Yeah, yeah. That's true. That's true. But later you are. Todd, do you have a third of a, third of a Thanksgiving sandwich? Not too much where you're stuffed in the mushrooms don't take effect. But that's all I wanted to say. Todd, when did America lose its soul? They didn't. Don't get me started. No, I want to get you started. What do you think? Yeah. This is why we, I've been taught, I've been ranting about this most of the whole podcast. I need someone who has a different

perspective on it. What do you think? Well, you know, Andy, I'll be honest. I give my perspective a lot because I feel like I'm one of the small few that have this perspective. You know, look, things are not good right now with what's happening in the world. But, you know, but put

that aside even. A lot of these problems that we're having, we stem back even before, let's say even before Trump was 2010. Let's go back to 2010, right? Right. And I don't think it's because we decline. I hear people go, what happened? We used to have civility.

No, we didn't. I agree. No, we didn't. What? How far back do you want to go? Was it civil that black people couldn't eat with white people? Was it civil that woman couldn't do any jobs she wanted? Was it civil to gay people couldn't get back? It's not civility.

For maybe certain people, it seemed that way. But if you take a look at how we treated all human beings, it wasn't that civil. That's why I always, I love a good conversation. so someone tries to throw it in, you know, whatever happened, that's when it ruins it for me. Even if I agree with the problem, I don't connect it to it used to be better. Does that make sense? How can we make it better? Well, that's a little more complex, but, oh, well, one, by realizing that it didn't used to be better.

That's a start. If you just go, oh, that made sense. I think before you debate anybody or discuss something, you have to say to them, do you mind being wrong? Now that sounds like a loaded question But someone that has an opposing view And then they could say to me, Todd, do you mind being wrong? Right? Did you get me so far?

Totally. Okay, I think I'm saying this clean, so I'm going to go a little bit more here. Come on, get in there. Most people don't want to be wrong, including me, but as I got older, I evolved. But I know what it's like not to want to be wrong because I was like that in my first few relationships. You know, you realize you're wrong inwardly, but then outwardly you can still put up a big fly. You just don't want to be wrong.

You have to save yourself. To yourself, laying in bed, would I mind if my whole theory on this world, I had it wrong, like it used to be better. Can you get that out of somebody's mind? It's like a drug. It's very hard. But here's what I want to say. People go, Todd, would you mind being wrong? Of course I have to ask myself that.

But I will tell you this as cocky as it seems. I think that all these problems come down to what you wanted to like, well, what's the running theme through all of them? Instead of discussing this issue. that issue. There seems to be a running pattern in the world that there's people that want to do things a new way and there's people that want to keep it the same. It doesn't matter how far back you go. Any social issues or even like I love to say picking up your dog shit. Nobody wanted to pick up their dog shit. Nobody wanted non-smoking restaurants. So there seems to be a theory of, not a theory, something that happens where there's certain group of people should women be able

to allow to do this. There's a certain group of people that want to try it the new way and there's certain people who want to keep it the way it is, go back to this, go back, go back. But it seems history rights that the new way is better. Now, you can't decide that if we're looking at topics on hand,

but if you go back to even ask people now, go, hey, well, let's see, you know, if they're going to answer honestly, but if you go back to any of the issues or 30 years ago, try to get out of, you know, when it's not still in the chopping table, do you think I at least go to the same thing? Do you think that women should be able

do any job they want. Most people are not going to go, no. Do you think black people should be able to eat with white people? Yes, do you think that black children should go to school with white children? Yes, do you think white people should have been able to marry black people? Yes, do you think gay people? You think it's an illness. People are going to go, no. So it seems to be, if you want to be a betting man, it seems to be in the midst of it, you think you're right, I think I'm right. But when things are either, you, you, you, uh, the side that one, wants to do it a new way, seems to, you know, history writes that decision better.

That's true. Yeah. That is true. Now, that's in a moment in life where you have to want to, you know, you want to get out of your own way. There's someone that's listening to this right now that what I just said doesn't fit into what they believe, you at least have to pause and go, he is right.

Yes. That is right. There's, I want to do it the new way. You want to do it the old way. And like I say, it doesn't have to be social. What's your take on tacos? What the fuck are you talking about that? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

No, I totally agree. It does. I think he cleaned it up. I think, yes, we're viewing the future from the lens of the past. And that's not how we should approach the future. You're saying some people are. Some people seem to think that it was better back in the day. Yeah, maybe for certain groups of people it was. It was a simpler time.

People go, oh, it was a simpler time. You had your youth, you had, but this, you know. I get it. And also, also, I'll tell you one other thing. Can I say, can I go a little further? Come on. Look, this doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards or keep it, go backwards. It doesn't mean that they, hold on, hold on, I got my thought here.

They want to go backwards. but oh yeah it doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards yes i want to acknowledge that the uh what they do to these groups of people that they're arguing for their rights and they make their lives hard whether whatever group you want to talk about right right but i'm almost done don't worry but i will say this they they might put a stop on it they might block it they might but they never stop anything and i'll tell you how why they don't they never stop anything again i could go through that whole list. Did they stop that? Can women, did they stop that? Hey, we still have a lot of work to do in all those categories, but they've never really stopped anything. Do we pick

up our dog shit? Do most civil-minded people don't, because back then, they didn't even modestly say, oh, how are we going to pick up our dog shit? I mean, I know it's the right thing to do, but still, no, it was like, you're a fucking lunatic. When we had non-smoking restaurants, oh my God, the world's gone to shit. But they never stopped it. They never stop anything. They slow it down. They make everybody's life out. They never stop anything. Do a joke. Think about that. Think about that.

They never stop anything. It's almost like you say it like a bully. What the fuck does the other side ever stop? And that is because they bank that kids get dumber. And that is where they lose. Even if somebody on that side would have the acknowledgment to go, maybe that's right. That's why we lose every time because we go, kids get stupid and stupid. No, they get smarter and smarter.

And you thinking they're stupider is why you lose. Because if you were aware how brilliant they were, maybe your fight would be different. I'm not saying I want them to win. But kids don't get stupid and stupider. People love to say that, oh, the kids today, the kids today. They've been saying that for how many goddamn years? You should be embarrassed to say that even if you're right. It's such a boring conversation to hear kids get stupid.

And there's people listening right now to your podcast, maybe even you, that will not go back to their lives. Look, I hope it does. And maybe I'm saying this so it does. that will change anything they think. It won't change. Most people, it's like a drug. They might be to hear it now and go, yeah, I guess he has a point.

I guess he has a point. Most people think kids get stupider, the first time the kids have a different theory than them. Like Bill Maher, he goes, what happened when you used to go to colleges and these kids were forward thinking? And I sarcastically, with all the sarcasm in the world, when I go, Bill, when did you think that they weren't?

Because he's acknowledging, oh, they used you'd be forward thinking. I would do these shows. So let me ask you a question. Did you start thinking they weren't forward thinking when they disagreed with something you said? Instead of going, holy shit, these kids are disagreeing with something I say. They have an amazing track record of being on the right side of history. Maybe should I at least give them a fucking listen.

And being quiet isn't listening. Just because you're shutting up while the other person talks doesn't mean you're digesting. Like me right now. Yeah, exactly. You asked me and I said it. No, no. No, you're right. You're totally right.

It's a, I think you're completely right. The, the, the idea that the youth aren't smarter than the people who have already lived here is wrong. And I think there's better ideas from the youth that we could actually, if we actually listen to, maybe it can help because it's the future. So everyone, so it's an idea of being stubborn. We've got to stop being stubborn. We're stubborn. I always said it's your ego. I always said if, if cars, if automotive, like,

Like if a car had an ego, we wouldn't have fuel injections still. Because a car had an ego, you'd go to give a fuel injection. Nah, this carburetor's all right. If machines had egos. Pretty good. And it just makes sense. I'm not saying all young people, by the way, just because you see a young person that's stupid. What about when AI gets an ego?

Well, and you know what, even AI, there's also running patterns that you can look, you can, if we talk about what's good for is AI good or is AI bad on a good day maybe you could make a better point than me and maybe you could win i don't really know the answer okay but i do know this and if you pay attention to patterns that's the way that's the way we cure diseases we pay attention to patterns there seems to be a history again of these things that they thought were going to ruin dot dot dot yeah i think someone said is it the stone stenograph or the first record what was that called the phonograph that was going to ruin the music business i think like andy williams or an older performer said it's going to ruin the music business there seems to

be a running history of people that think tv's going to ruin the business this is going to ruin business and years later it didn't it didn't so maybe this one will be different but i can tell you when you go to make that decision is a guy going to be bad is it going to be the demise of the world if you're a betting man and you just want to win money like if someone goes in 30 years what's going to happen, you know, you're probably going to be wrong. Even though if we argue about it right now, you could win on a Thursday, maybe I'd win on a Friday, if we just took it what we're dissecting on the plate right now. But if you go back and look at the history of it with not minding, as you gather these facts,

not minding if these facts don't, you know, come against what you think, look at all the things we thought we're going to ruin kids or ruin this or ruin that. we usually have bigger fish to fry and we usually don't look at the thing that really is the demise people thought Elvis moving his crotch around was going to be the end of the world people really believe that like now we're fucked

it's hard to believe that and they go Todd's exaggerating no people were like what the fuck is going on now go back at that year go back at that year and look it was going on in the landscape of this world how we were treating marginalized groups and you go Elvis's crotch really

so I always say don't don't guess It helps us crotch. What? I just laughing. I was laughing your joke. Am I on the podcast? You're on the podcast. I'm exhausted.

I had a clean. I think I got everything out. You did. I think you got it all. One more thing. One more thing. Yeah. When I say the kids today are smarter,

I'm not talking about every single child or everything. I should say young adult. I'm talking about the involved. kids, the kids that are involved, the kids that are fighting for this or fighting for that. Sometimes they go about it wrong once in a while,

but the issue, the issue that they're arguing, they're always right. They have an amazing track record of being right, but it doesn't look like it. You know, if you run a company and you're a CEO

and you have an amazing track record, people listen to what you fucking say. Yeah. But because we're afraid of death, I think that's what it might be. I'm just taking a stab at it. We're afraid of death And instead of talking about that in a real way to go,

I don't want to die. I like it here. I don't really want to die. So we come up with a band-aid for it. Oh, at least we were born at a better time. At least the kids today are dumber. At least music today. At least we were born when music was good.

At least we were born when comedy was good. That's a band-aid. You're right. Instead of saying, it's scary to die, and there's still good music. Speaking of death, what do you think of aliens? Do you think they're going to come after us? I have no idea. At least, you know, if I don't have an idea, I say it.

Hey, so guys... You know, I got one more thing. People, as much as I'm opinionated, I don't mind not weighing in on things. People don't really want the right answer. I think they want the answer that they, in their head is right. This brings us back to the first part of the podcast. That's why we're going to keep this episode.

Right. Well, when it comes to social, when it comes to what people, you know, Do you want what's right or do you want what you had in your head and you want that to be right? Do you mind being wrong? I'll give an example. When we're talking about issues of today, what should we expose children to? What should we not expose children to? What's wrong with going, and I'm not even joking.

There's a website you can get this answer. You're going, what does Sesame Street think? Well, why Sesame Street? Well, wouldn't you agree that they have been on the right side of history, integrating different races and talking about things in an honest way. So what's wrong with going, I don't know what my stance on this is. I want to go to someone that has a rich history of being ahead of their time and doing things right. I'm going to defer to Sesame Street. But again, that's not what people are looking for. You're looking for people that agree with you. I think the biggest drug that is the demise of

society isn't prescription drugs. It's complacency. It's trying to get people to believe. believe or get them to understand your view that you have, this view that you go through life with. It's wrong. And it's like a drug. It's very hard to yank them out of it because they believed it's so long. They don't want to be wrong. It's like being on drugs. Just because you say, hey, I'm a drug addict or I'm an alcoholic, that doesn't mean that's the start. Then there's a lot of work. Even if you were to go, God, what Todd said sort of made sense. I think I might be that person he's talking about. That doesn't mean there's not a lot of work ahead of you. to change this adage you've been living with for such a long time.

If you want to hear these thoughts, if you think this podcast is interesting, think about when Todd's on mushrooms, the thoughts he has going through his head. Come on over to the Todd Glass Thanksgiving special. What's up, my show that I'm doing in New York now, you might go, what? I'm not really talking about any social issues. I did on my last Netflix special. This one, by my own short, maybe my next one I'll talk about social issues

I'm not talking about any social issues I just wanted the show that I'm doing New York and the show that I'm touring with right now I just want I mean people can tell that I hope hopefully I'm progressive because of some of the you know you say things indirectly even if you're not marching and waving a flag

but yeah I just want this to be for people who go out have a good time and sort of not deal with that the only chunk I have in my acting second city first week in November come out to see Todd going to the seventh to the 17th, 15 shows. And one of your close friends is going to come to the first

weekend, I forgot? Andy Fresco, baby. Am I still here? I'm so glad you're going, and I love you to death, and I love Nick to death, and I'm so excited that you're going to be there. Really, I'm talking to Vinny the other day, I'm like, I just love, you know, I never get over our friendship, and that I just enjoy me.

I love you, buddy. I love you, too. I missed you, Todd. I got to give Nick some attention, but I love you so much. Let me call you back in a little bit. I'm going to text you. Okay, bye. Got a run, sorry. Got a run. It's so fucking funny.

Todd Glass is the greatest. But I think he nailed it on the head. Yeah, I think in there. I actually agree with everything he said. I did. I dozed off a little bit. I was like, I was trying to get, like, when he gets into his, like, he's not breathing. He's just talking.

It's impressive, actually. It's pretty impressive. He's really brilliant. He's a brilliant man. He's a brilliant man that I agree with almost all the time. You will check out the Todd Glass Thanksgiving, Spreeing. special. Oh, that mushroom is, we

mushrooms on ice, we call it. You're gonna come to that this week, year? What is? What do you do for the, you go home for Thanksgiving? No, I have told you. My family doesn't do Thanksgiving.

Come have Thanksgiving with us. It's got to make sure Julie's in Denver and then I can do it. Okay. Bring her. I can't leave Denzel at home alone. And you can't leave Julie. Yeah, I can.

She doesn't care. All right, guys. I think that was, I think we nailed it. I think we nailed it on the head today, right? it was a great podcast we're getting worried it was getting a little sad but now this is an informational podcast we learned a lot today we learned about the music industry we learned about aliens tech guy so tech guy AI stuff and then Todd glass to put a bow on it that quick 20 minutes the future

isn't as scary as we think it is because we have to believe in the youth that they're going to take care of it so the past is much scary in the future yes all right guys enjoy your tuesday I after that manic-ass episode. I hope you got a good lunch. I hope you had a good lunch. That was really chewable. That was like chewing grass today. Goodbye.

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