Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Nick and Ryan Stasik (Umphreys McGee)

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Andy is still on the road so Nick is doing his first solo interview and it's a big one: Ryan Stasik from Umphrey's McGee. Nick and Ryan chat about breaking in their new drummer, Gen X bands, Steelers/Browns, what age is appropriate for a kid to see an Andy Frasco show, and much more. Watch this episode now on Volume.com & YouTube. We're psyched to partner up with Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message: [phone]  Check out our new album Growing Pains on all platforms 5/23/25!! Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For all things Frasco, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our sponsor, Gardenista: https://drinkgardenista.com/

Now that you replace one guy, is the bug bit? Is Joel next? What's going on with that? Hello, world-saving podcast fans and listeners. This is Nick. Unfortunately, Andy's not here today. I'm not sure where he is. He's probably on an airplane coming back from some god-forsaken gig and some C-market. But I have a special co-host with me today. He's tall. He's handsome. He plays bass. He's a dad. What's some other stuff about you? Ryan Stacey. everybody. Yes, I so fucking excited to be here. This is

a real fucking honor. I'm serious. This is the last two hours I've been doing push-ups in my hotel room. I'm just pumped. As Andy would say, let's fucking go. A real meeting of the minds here between two Midwestern jam band musicians. So I want

to start out with this how long Scotty been in the band now? he joined in May. So about one fiscal quarter. Okay. So it's been about three months. You've done a good amount of gigs. You're the bass player. So you're the guy that decides how the drummer's doing. How do you feel about his tenure so far? It's amazing. He's, he's fucking, he's awesome. He's a very skilled drummer. And, you know, the most important part is like 90% of the time we're not on a stage. So the hang has been really fun. Yeah. We have a lot of things in common.

We both enjoy 9-inch nails. Hell yeah. We saw him in Chicago. Kevin Browning, our manager, and Farrague, and Scotty and I went and saw him. And, dude, it's worth paying the amount for the ticket prices. I know everybody can bitch about a high expensive ticket pricing. Yeah, yeah. But they are definitely putting in cool production, stage design, vibe.

The whole thing was so creative and relevant. and still timeless for all of those songs, man. They still hit hard. It's always been one of my top ten favorite bands. And got really lucky, flew into Chicago. We had a bus call that night, leaving at midnight. So we scored some tickets, and it was a good band hang, too, you know. That's always good as a band, I think, to go see another band that's really good.

It's sort of, like, I don't know, can, like, inspire you also make you feel bad about yourself a little bit, too, in a good way. Yeah, that's that you just define. you and I. I didn't feel bad at all. I was super stoked and inspired. I'm just kidding. God damn, it won't be that good. How did it compare to a tool show? I feel like they're kind of on the same wavelength, like with their production and stuff. Yeah, that's interesting comparison. I thought it was right up there with that too. I've seen tool way more. I have not seen nine inch nails since the downward spiral tour in 1995. Holy shit. So it was a good 30 year run since I'd seen them live. That was in college, right? No, you were in college? No, I was in high school. I was in high school. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're, okay. Yeah, they played Wing Stadium. One of my favorite concerts I've ever seen, Downspiral.

They had Pop Will Eat Itself, like a German, I think they're German kind of industrial pop band. And then they had Jim Rose's Circus. I don't even know what it is. That was like the freak show circus back in the 90s where, you know, opening up a arena show arena in the Midwest on a Wednesday. It was super cool. But I want to touch on what you did say. I think that it's super important as a band to go and do functions and fun things together. Like getting out and seeing a huge act like Nine Inch Nails is great camaraderie for the inspiration.

But, you know, Andy and I just went and played golf with our old tour manager, Don Richards. Andy Farrag, not Frasco. Cancer, Ferrig, Ferrig, yeah, not Frasco. And just being able to play 18 holes, see an old buddy and connect, Don Richards. You say he's cancer-free? Cancer-free. I don't know how much public knowledge it is for everyone to know that he even had cancer thing, but I'm just super proud of him and happy about that.

Yeah, that's always good for here. Hell yeah. So now that you replace one guy, is the bug bit? Is Joel next? What's going on with that? Joel's not next, but we have slowly had a discussion about we're slowly going to kind of push him off the stage. So right now we have this very symmetrical three-on-three kind of all a wide-sfering. panic with the three guitar players in front and he's in the back corner.

But we thought if we just slowly move him over into the crew world, eventually we're going to have his own box truck and we'll kind of just set him up back there and they'll never see him. But he will be still slightly in the mix at the shows. Yeah. But we just feel like with the way culture is going and the future, that we kind of need to really start shoving him out of view if we want to get more fans at our age. Really? I would think it'd be the other way. He's pretty good looking.

It's, I think he'd try to get him out of the PA more than the stage. I think it's, I think it's a multi, I think we're doing both. It's twofold. Why is it so fun to make fun of Joel Cummins? It's like, because he can take it on anybody, I think. Because no one can take a punch better than Joel Cummins. I think that's true, and it's sort of a mark of a good guy. Great guy.

Yeah. He might be one of the greatest guys on the scene out there. Yeah. And this is genuine here. I'm not being a dick. No, no, we're being sick. He's a great guy. Yeah, yeah.

He is one of the nicest, sweetest, uh, gentle human beings in the world. But when you're in a band for 30 years together and you live on the row with each other, you pick on each other like brothers. And, uh, and Joel can definitely take a punch.

Are you coming up on 30? When's the 30 year anniversary? 97, so 27. Oh, two years. Damn, I thought we were coming up on 25. Holy shit. I mean, Bayless and I've been playing since 95. Yeah.

We've been in a band together since 95, so we're coming up on 30. And you're still getting along. That's pretty good. For the most part. Yeah. He's pretty easy to get along. We have pretty good therapy moment yesterday where we actually listen to the person's, you know, what he was upset about what he felt we weren't connecting on. And I will remind him that I heard him.

Thank you for telling me. And then I will tell him what's right. And I'll tell me what I thought. It sounds like couples counseling. We will agree to disagree. Literally sounds just like couples. I mean, not that I've ever been to couples counseling, but it sounds like what I would imagine couples counseling would sound like. It's exactly what it is.

You need to look the person in the eye and say, thank you for telling me that. I hear you. I hear what you're saying. I think you're fucking wrong. But I do hear you. Your volume is loud enough. I can definitely hear you. That's hilarious.

Now, you're in Chicago. important part of that is that we do we do share those things and we do talk in that manner is that that we stay on the same page after that so we're not holding what we call the tom petty little things so later after i've had um some of this delicious pantalones uh added it free tequila i tend to get a little more argumentative uh later in the evening so if we can squash that tom petty shit early and uh just have that five second chat and then hug it out um it really helps us for the for the next day yeah case we have to do it all over again that is one thing i've always respected about you actually from our

multiple hangs and we have been we've done a few gigs together we even have that little like nirvana tribute band remember that um i do i've always respected your ability to just say you disagree which i think is actually like a very good quality and a musician and just a person you know what i'm saying i don't really like agreeable people unless they're like bullshit well well i i mean as you get older you don't disagree just to disagree sometimes you got to read a room and just roll with it because it's not forced it. I mean, you are married.

What's that? You are married. Sorry. You learned that for a long time. But I have always been a no bullshit person. Like, I'll tell you what I think. And yeah,

I mean, I'm wrong. I'm wrong a lot. Yeah. At least you're going to get, I'm a straight shooter. But you can admit when you're wrong and that's kind of important. Back to this nine-inch nils thing, though,

I was thinking, I was actually thinking about this in the car or on my flight home actually yesterday because my girlfriend, she works in hospitality for all these big concerts right at you know julie you've met her um of course lovely she's a lovely woman i can't believe that we're in the same room but uh she works all these big concerts and she worked for uh um offspring yesterday at ball arena and it was sold out even the top bowl why are all these gen x bands why do you think that they're dominating the ticket selling landscape right now uh i don't know but i love it i mean i'd love to go see all of these

fans. My wife and myself are super pissed that we missed the Oasis run. I saw them in 1995 in September in a gym auditorium in Cleveland. Holy shit. It was like a middle school auditorium gym. And it was so loud

and it was so rock and roll. It was so awesome. What's the story? Morning Glory had just dropped so they hadn't really like broken into arenas or anything yet. And that was another one that I really, really wanted to see this year. But we miss it but dude hear me out those guys are going to make so much fucking money dude and they're going to go back to being fucking rock stars and having four guys make their fucking tea yeah they're

gonna they're gonna they're gonna tour again and they're gonna i'll just hit them on the next one you think they're going to come back in like three years i think they'll come back next year they're gonna make so much fucking money yeah especially because they didn't really tour the u.s that much i think they did three markets maybe east coast l a yeah did they do chicago They did Chicago Jersey, New York and L.A. They were in L.A. this week, actually this weekend. I know because I went to hang out with my buddy in Oklahoma

and his wife was there. Yeah. He bailed on a license. They've got a great Those first two records are fucking amazing. Yeah. I mean, I never got that into it. Good stuff.

I like Liam because he's like what we were talking about. He's like no bullshit. I think we need more like dickhead rock stars or just rock stars in general. Well, we have Frascoe. Yeah, but he's not a dickhead. He's like the opposite of a dickhead. Oh, he's nice? I think Vrasco's a nice guy, don't you?

On stage or off? Offstage. Yeah, he's super nice. Let's say he has nothing to gain from you. Do you think he's still nice? I'm just kidding. He's super nice. He knows he is.

Yeah, yeah. He knows he's a sweet boy. Talk to him like he's a dog. Oh, you sweet boy. Yeah, you just kind of got to be his mommy a little bit. Let's talk about this real quick. So I have a dog. Yeah.

And it is hilarious. I've been married for 14 years. My wife talks to the dog. the way that I, like, indecisioned, she would talk about me. Like, every morning, you think, oh, you sweet boy, I love you so much, my handsome man. Oh, my gosh, you're the best. I just love you. And I'm like, what the fuck? Stay right here. Yeah, maybe you're too smart. I just don't think I can give that love that a dog can give to a human. You know, maybe that's what it is.

Yeah, they're just so sweet and their eyes are so far, so dumb and far away. And you just kind of have to love them you know what i mean they're just perfect actually do you have a you've a dog i have a standard poodle he's the man denny yeah and does julie does julie talk to the dog yeah that's like her sweet i mean she would probably if a train was coming she would throw me well before well before him like even if she might not even save me if she could save both of us let's put it that way i understand they have they have an insane bond that's like way i mean he likes me but that's like julie's like is his person. If she goes to bed, he's going to bed. Wherever she goes, it's pretty insane. But I think dog's just gravity. I'm the only one who disciplines the dog. So he definitely doesn't have the same kind of, there's, you know, there's a little bit of that fear. I'm okay with it. What do you have? What kind of dog is it?

He's a mutt rescue, but mainly pit. Oh, cool. So he's fun. What's his name? What's his name? Mr. T. Mr. T. Yeah. Do you name after the actual Mr. T or is it just ran? him after the actor he's got chains you know he's i'm pity the fool oh you got that's pretty good i pity the fool and he's a pit yeah um so you got this new album coming out right you're like you're in chicago right now promoting it right so what's it called yeah so last night we played um kind of like a weed festival in a mundaline chicago and it was fucking amazing really um yeah i it's it's kind of crazy to go out and see thousands and thousands of people super fucking high.

Yeah. I mean, people are still drinking alcohol, but like super baked. Like only high. Like that's the main thing. Like, it's not like they're getting in drinking their high. Yeah, I think food sales went up. So there's a plus there. But everybody was chill because, you know, it was the first day of football and alcohol.

You tend to get like a lot of aggression and fighting and stuff. And there was like, no sense of that whatsoever. Like the weed, the weed thing was really good. So I think Umfries needs to just stop saying we're in a jam band and just be like, Like, we're in a weed rock band. You know, like, fuck jam bands, it's weed rock. And that's why you made a reggae album. That's why this next album's a reggae album, right?

So this next album is a reggae album. Yeah, it's called Blueprints. It's all Rugga. Speaking of Rugga, it was Peter Shapiro's birthday last night. So we went to Garcia's, and it was Stephen and Damien Marley. Holy shit. And talk about reggae. It was fucking amazing.

That's actual. And then tonight, we are having our record release, this Blueprints record. which Chris Myers is playing on this is all the live stuff that we did at the Metro long story short Oh, it's a live record? Sorry? It's a live record?

Yes, so people went and voted on all of our old jams and kind of gave them to us and we took their feedback and made them into weed rock songs. So they're like from 12 to 21 minutes and we performed them live at the Metro

the top floor of the Metro, which I didn't even know existed up there, but I guess it's like where Guns and Roses used to hang when they were recording, Use Your Illusion, one and two, back in the late 80s, early 90s. And we recorded all of these tunes, and we're putting that out tonight.

So we're going to do a Q&A, a listening party, and then we're going to play a set of music, a two-hour set of music afterwards. And I guess there might be some special guests. So I don't know if that's going to happen It's some people happen to be in Chicago So you can't say it because they might not show up You know how it goes

You just don't know Well this will come out after that But you can't say because just in case they don't show up That makes sense Why wouldn't they show up though With some reason McGee in Chicago You know Hang out with their dog

Maybe Yeah, it's pretty good It is a Monday The bears are on too The bears are on Monday night So that's you know Caleb We're going to see how

how Caleb does. I don't know. We'll see. Back to this Gen X thing, do you think it's nostalgia? Okay, so here, I narrowed it down to two things when I was sitting there thinking.

I do a lot of sitting and thinking these days. I don't have a lot going on. It's either nostalgia, okay? Or that's the only group of people who are, who have money. Like, I don't, who can afford to go to concert. I think it's both.

I think it's great to see some of these acts that we're doing. I mean, you know the 90s everybody was still touring arenas like bands that couldn't do it now or even like people played arenas and that might have changed over the last 20 years and to see them come back when you used to see them then i i think that nostalgia is definitely there and um i don't know what the ticket price is i know that the oasis stuff is insanely expensive and stuff too but yeah because the offspring are they are they are they me it was a normal ticket price but i mean but still i mean you know still it's pretty expensive just to go out anymore especially you know what i mean in denver like compared it's expensive to do anything it's like yeah it's it's great you leave the house in denver it's 85 bucks you know so this this is what uh you know i'm not a cheap skate or anything but i know but at home i was like hey it's uh steel city pizza's a pittsburgh bar across the street i'm like they got

two dollar kids meals on tuesdays let's go kids i'm gonna have an iron city beer we're gonna have a slice i'll get you two dollar meals it's great wednesdays we have five dollar sushi from the grocery store. It's really good sushi. It's five bucks from like 15. I'm like, you know, you find those little deals here and there and this still kind of exists, but life is fucking expensive. Everything's getting expensive. I mean, I'm sitting in a hotel room in Chicago, and I just had a $34

fucking smash burger brought to the room. That should be the cheap. $34. That should be the cheapest kind of burger. It has the least amount of meat on it. Right? Yeah. So, you know, I do have a $3.16 ounce Paps Blue Ribbon here, though, so that's nice. I love that you're drinking at 2 p.m. getting started.

Well, you know, big night, Monday. Big lunch with the sister coming up. You've got to be a little bug. Yeah, she canceled on me. So we just, we talked on the phone for a while. We didn't get to a meeting person. Oh, man. That sucks.

Yeah. Are you excited to, uh, you're playing a three-night running indie at the Vogue coming up. What do you think of, you have you played the Vogue recently? Like, when's the last time you played there? I don't know. And I actually did not know that. When is that? It's in November.

Oh, yeah, that's too far ahead. I really locked in, huh? Colorado next week and I know Montana and that's about all I know. Yeah, you are. I do, I have a lot of good memories from the Vogue. I used to go, I guess I saw Galactic there for the first time ever. Really? There's like 16 people, 2001. By the way, this is a thousand happened on you for the people listening at home. So that's not very good. The first time I ever heard of you guys was at the Vogue. So I went to college in Indianapolis. You know that probably, right? I went to Marion. Oh, you're an indie boy. So my senior year, I lived across the street from the Vogue. And I

I saw your name in the marquee, and I was like, what the fuck is that? What is that band name? So I went and checked you guys out. And this is back when you, this is back when they had like CDs in the CD store and you could like sample them. Remember that? Oh, yeah. You'd like put on the headphones and you could like play the CD. And there was a karma records that had your CD out as one of them.

And I think it was it was one that starts, what's your tune that starts out with the piano going up chromatically? Don, don't don't don't don't don't no. I think it's Miss Tinkles. Yeah. That was the first thing. Yes. So I saw your name at the Vogue. And I was like, what is that bullshit band name?

I got to check this out. That is either the worst or the best band name I've ever heard. And I still haven't figured out if it's the worst or the best. Still worst. Is it? It's towards the bottom. But is that an advantage is a question because it's unique. Yeah?

I don't know. But also, I mean, it is what it is now. It's been 27 fucking years. Yeah, it's too late now. But like, do you ever like, someone ever, like, do you ever like have to tell someone your band name and you're like fuck you're like well yeah what's your band called and you're like god damn it uh i think i used to for a long time joel and i used to lie a lot too we had a bunch of

stories of what it was um i still regret not calling us destroyer i always wanted to be destroyer that'd have been good that was a fucking cool band name that might have fed in are you going to see destroyer fuck yeah that's cool great merch maybe that'll be my side project could be like an arcade yeah that's what you need a 17 side project i mean it has to be a band though right that someone has to pick that name got to be like a metal band in omaha or something right like something yeah yeah so i went and checked it out and i was like holy shit these guys are good and then 10 years later i was sitting in with you in detroit yeah it's kind of a funny story i was thought like i don't know yeah so you're back at the vogue back to your roots three night run

that'd be sick i don't know yeah i i always enjoy being in a city for more than one day you know it's it's kind of nice uh to wake up and and not have to uh you know just kind of know that you're going to be there and make some plans and do some cool shit yeah hit up a coffee shit you know you know indies a lively town too so you'll have a lot to do there thriving thriving metropolis yeah uh no you can always find some cool shit to do like i'm going uh when we go up to montana i'm going fly fishing really like i like to get i like to get out and do and do shit have you have you done that before i have i have um i'm not good it's hard right yeah it's it's cool it's like a specific skill though right you don't just like drop the thing in the

water and wait you got to make it look like a like bait no no there's there's definitely casting in a method and a it's a skill yeah you know it's a hard of a nice way to pass the time in a beautiful part of the country harder than golf yeah golf is um golf is a mind fuck man you know lifetime to master you know i've heard fair it's a really good golfer he you know he he is probably the most consistent and best golfer in our group he is sitting at at about an eight handicap. That's really good. Shoots low 80s consistently.

He's part of a club. He goes and plays at home. He's played 45 times this year. I've played four. And he's one with no kids, right? No children. So there's got to be a link there between the guy with no kids and the guy who's best at golf, right? Yeah.

Well, you know, like I tell my kids, if you want to get good at anything, you got to put in the reps. And he's definitely got, but he's got a nice swing. And he's, we were joking about this. too. So we were talking about when we're younger, like he was he was kind of an angry golfer. Weird. He'd get super pissed if he hit a bad shot and go to the other side and like walk the fairway,

wouldn't talk to us. He'd be bad. He wasn't throwing clubs or anything, but he was, you know, he was definitely he was so pissed off. We were laughing like, because now we're in our late 40s. Like, we're just stoked to be out there playing golf outside and enjoying your friends. I don't understand how these people get so fucking pissed off playing golf. Even if the people in front of you are slow, why the fuck are we starting fights? I mean, I love hockey. I love fight. That fight was

awesome. It just makes no sense to me. That fight was hysterical. Are you talking about that fight where that guy squared up with the, what was his name? The hockey player? What was it? Do you remember who it was? Yeah, Dave, he used to be an enforcer in the hotel. And the best part of that, this is why I love Canada. The guy who got his ass whooped kept coming back, came on and said, you know, I played fucking 36 holes and was wasted. And I got my, my ass kicked people fuck up he he was accountable and he said sorry yeah and then it moved on it like it was a great story no one sued anybody no one fucking like no one um i mean he got his ass kick and he deserved to get his ass yeah he kind of deserved it people people people get away

with so much these days with not getting their ass kicked and it sucks it sucks so awesome for canada and hockey fans to like watch this dude fucking say boom as he pumbled his face and then afterwards the next day be like no hard feel I deserved it. They'll probably get a beer together at some point. I could see that happening. Yeah. Yeah, he'll write a book or something.

I don't know. The craziest part about that video is he just kept coming back. Oh, dude, he was alcohol numb. Like, he was, that next morning had to be the worst hangover in the history of his life, of his life. It's like, I have a headache and the outside of my head hurts. Oh, my God. And forever documented of just getting tossed around a fucking course.

And the dude's saying boom, every time he part. That's my favorite part. He's like, boom, boom. Oh, I want to do that. Maybe I'll do that to Joel tonight. No, he's delicious. Boom, boom. No, I'm kidding.

You heard it here first. Ryan Stasic advocates violence in all situations as they No, I don't advocate violence, but I don't think anybody's above a fucking ass whoopin if it's properly suitable in the situation. Like, I'm not saying people should go around and just fucking start fights, but if you're running your fucking mouth and you're crossing a line, maybe. if you get popped in the mouth, you'll think twice about being a fucking prick. That's all I'm trying to set. I do think that that has actually changed a lot and like culturally for us. And it has like been a bad

thing. Like there's no threat of violence, especially with the internet comment kind of shit. Oh, you're just you're just thumbbrave. You can type whatever you want to whoever you want. But when you see them in person, you know, it was like in our high school hockey leagues, everybody had to wear helmets and masks and people chirped and chirped and talked, talk shit, talk shit. The minute you have a helmet off and someone wants to. to hurt you, you fucking, you butt in your lip. You know, you think about what you're going to say because there's fucking

consequences. And this is what today's show is all about. Consequences. This is what, we have to have consequences. That's the title of the show today. It's consequences. So did you guys like have to, uh, with Scotty, back to the Scotty thing? When he joined the band, did you guys like initiate him in any way? Did you, speaking of beating his ass, did you jump him in? Did you,

you know, sleep with his girlfriend? Like, did you do anything like that to like, you know what I mean? Like, how did you jump in? There was no, there was no 1970s, uh, rock star hazing. Oh, um, we're, we still have some ideas. Yeah. You know, we kind of want to keep him always kind of waiting a little bit because that way, that is, he didn't sleep, sleep with one eye open. Yeah.

So I like that. Stuff is in the works, but he, you know, you have to be, um, calm and collected and patient. It's kind of like the U.S. military sometimes, like the threat of violence is actually worse than the actual violence. You know what I mean? It keeps them more in line than the actual bombing. The threat. that's what he thinks every time he opens that bus door he knows there's a threat of

of violence at any time he could be hit in the side of the head by a golf ball by Andy Farrag that's good that he blended in so quick like it was crazy how no dude he's he's he's a he's a I don't know how much you've hung out with him yeah we hang out I mean he lives really funny dude he's funny he can hang with with anybody he's like an encyclopedia of movie quotes he knows how to he'll quote oh my god he knows him all he knows every comedy movie quote yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a great drummer. I mean, yeah. I mean, I like, I haven't played with him. Joel and I are big movie quote guys, too. Like, so it's, that's been a, that's been a fun little connection. Yeah, he's seen him. He like quotes all the comedy movies. It's pretty impressive. And he's a great drummer.

Yeah. So he's a great drummer. So, you know, we just started getting on the road. It's funny. The kids school just started and we left. And this is like six weekends in a row. And like I was say before, anything takes reps. You know, a lot of the gigs that he did this summer. We had no sound check. It was a throw and go. You get up there grip and ripped festival. set, and you don't have time to rehearse, to get your tone, to get, make sure your gear's working. So now that we are on weekend, I'll call this weekend four of six, it's starting to get nice and slippery and groovy and more time for exploration and his confidence is getting back there now that he's been back there behind the kit, he can start calling some changes and trying different things where he's not more worried about, like, oh, do I know this song? or are they going to be angry if I don't do this?

If I don't do this, that comfortableness is definitely setting in. Yeah. And it's been fun part of the growth. That's something that happens to me a lot too because I'm not like really in a band. I'm a side man constantly. And it's like once you become the way when you're with a new group is like when you really start to click is when you become unafraid to make a mistake. Yes.

And this is what I say this every day. part of Brendan and I's fight yesterday even was about this it doesn't matter take the risk swing swing at the pitch you're never going to fucking what's the Gretzky

you know you miss 100% of the shots you don't take yeah you know it's like fucking go out there swinging baby and try at least that way I think a live crowd knows that you're attempting to connect with them yeah and sometimes yeah you're going to fucking miss it's okay like that that part

you got to get over real quick too and he's starting to we're all getting very comfortable as this lineup to to start swinging again. Yeah, I think there's something to that like so I think like people compare music to sports a lot and I think this is a one way where it doesn't compare is like

when you make a mistake in music it can actually, I guess this is true in some sports but like it can actually lead to something better it's not like striking out and ending the game like sometimes a mistake during a improvisational section will lead to something cooler. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, well I'll give you one that does make sense.

If you're in football or if you're in hockey and you take a penalty to fucking beat the shit out of someone or hit someone to let them know that you're not going to stand for their bullshit, that can inspire your team to play in a completely different motivational way or change the momentum of what's going to happen next. So those mistakes can lead to great opportunities and momentum switches. Yeah, it's like or like when a basketball coach gets kicked out of the game on purpose. like so his yeah hoosiers Hoosiers baby now when an alcoholic dad gets kicked out of a high school basketball game your team is

fucking ready my team is on the floor yeah and we know that there's no there's plenty of alcoholic dads in the jambane scene so that that's definitely a good comparison oh 100% by the way we are sponsored by pantalone's tequila and pdf today is this a video or we only

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suck it down so it's goo anyway so Yeah, Starbucks food is actually terrible, I think. Compared to, like, Oh, it's awful. It's like probably some of the, it's like cafeteria, well, that's more Panera, but Andy always says Panera tastes like hospital cafeteria food. You got a switch? We're also sponsored by the Nintendo Switch.

Hell yeah. When you are stuck in your bunk or you want to get away from band members who may be assholes, grab the Switch. What are you playing? Play some Zelda. Get lost in another world. Oh, you're a Zelda guy. You know, I'm not a gamer at all, but I bought,

my daughter, a Switch, and she didn't play it. So I bought Zelda, and Mike Ganser is a big Zelda guy. He's like, dude. Kanika, Kanika Moore is a big Zelda girl, too. She loves it. She's like, I just go and look at sunsets on mountains and get trapped in this world, stuff. I'm like, what the fuck are you guys talking about?

And then I started playing Zelda, and it's video games have come a long way since the 90s, man. It's pretty intense. But I love solving puzzles, so it's fun. And Zelda's fun because you can also just kind of not play it and just, like, have it on, and it's going to walk around, and it's sort of like... You know, I love that you don't have to play a game in sequential order. Yeah. You just have this universe that you can go anywhere in it and do different things on the side.

Like, that part is really cool. Like a disco biscuit song. Sure. Yeah. I mean, the part about a video game, it sucks is like, if you have a really hard part that you can't beat, why you don't want to waste fucking time and hours and days just to get to the next part, come back to that shit later, you know? That's brilliant.

You're playing Mitchell Walker this weekend, and they played it last week, and I wonder who's going to be better. I'm trying to bring back the Biscuits-Umpri's robbery from the early 2000. Oh, is there a rivalry? No, but I want to create it. I just feel like the jam-band scene in general kind of needs more beef. And we've been talking about this in the podcast. Like, I've been trying to get dogs. I told you, we tried to do the Japanese anime bird band dissing, and it just didn't take off.

Yeah, and I've been trying to get dogs in a pile and eggy to fight for about two years now. They just won't do it. You're a shit starter. I like to start shit. Yeah, I'm Catholic, so it's like pretty much what we do. You know what I mean? Are you still Catholic? Mm, you know, I call my, I'm a recovering Catholic.

Yeah, I don't, it's, it's kind of hard to have beef, you know, like, like you were saying before, it's people compare sports and bands. It is different that way. Like, I mean, I could see how back in the day when Axel and Kirk Cobain, shit had beef for Vince Neal and those, like, like, punched each other in the face shit that was cool i just don't like in weed rock bands you don't see a lot of yeah um violence you know i know we're trying to instill violence or uh instill violence into the scene here but no i don't think there's any rivalry those guys are they're super fucking nice guys they do their thing they got their formula it's fun you know sound tribe too super nice guys and gal love alana she's a bad assay player by the way and they're killing it's it's kind of hard to start a rivalry

i don't i don't i'm trying to think like people wouldn't believe it if we did it with frasco and stuff because we're too good of friends and too nice but like is there a band out there that like everybody's like man they're all dicks I bet you and they did something like if you want real beef I know one would that be

I'm not allowed to say it we're not allowed to go there well it got bleeped out last time so I can't say it again but I'll tell you later there are a bunch of dicks but people can guess at home email or drop it in the comments

tell me what you think the biggest dickhead hashtag where's the beef I'll give you a hint they're not that successful, okay? So just get in the comments and tell me the dickheads who aren't that successful. I do have to, do have to ask you a quick question since yesterday it was opening day and I've got my Bettis jersey over here. This is a free-throwing. The Steelers played a fucking beautiful game against the Jets. The Browns almost, some would say, dominated the Cincinnati Bengals that everybody's holding on this high horse that might win the Super Bowl. Hold them to seven yards

in the second half, but you still lost. Well, it's our kicker's fault. So is this what, is it, is this is what happening? Everybody's like, uh, Cincinnati had a tough one, but they got through and the Browns are just like, man, the Browns are going to Brown. The Jet's been a Jeb. We just, it's just what's going to happen to us. How do you feel as a fucking Browns fan about your season, your quarterback situation and your kicker? And like, after you, after that first game, what do you think? Well, so here's the thing. I've been a Browns fan for 83 years now, I think, as he feels like, it's kind of like you and Joel, the sun all,

Joel's not a brown's fantasy no he's 83 oh okay you're just saying he's old well that's true but uh you know it's like i'm so numb to them being like letting me down now like they should have won that he missed an extra point and a pretty easy three point field goal right like as if there's a four point field goal and he's a rookie too and he's supposed to be a badass kicker so i'm hoping like it was just his first game and he the quarterback situation is like i mean what like is the 20th year we don't know who we have a good court i mean it's not like we ever have a good quarterback we're allergic to having a good quarterback so i'm wondering if it's like do we draft bag quarterbacks or are we just like

just never going to have a good quarterback because if you get drafted by cleat it's kind of like the opposite of the steelers like jack sawyer the oh house state linebacker you guys drafted him right and i'm like he's going to be good in the NFL and people are like how do you know that because the steelers drafted him at linebacker and if they draft you at linebacker you will become a good linebacker and i think or they'll ship you out yeah or they'll ship you out but generally or if they draft a wide receiver in the second round they usually end up being a good they just are good at it. And I think the opposite is true of the Browns. If you're a quarterback and you go to Cleveland, you're just going to be bad because you're a quarterback in Cleveland. So it's like,

I don't know if it's like, if it's, you know, it's a chicken or the egg thing. Yeah. It's, it's tough. Do you know who has the most wins at Cleveland's, I don't know the name of the stadium? I think it's Cleveland Stadium or something. I don't even, who cares. Yeah. Do you know who has the most NFL football wins at that stadium? What, quarterback? Yeah. Rafflesberger has more than any Cleveland Brown quarterback That's actually fucking

Because he only played there Twice a year So he played what 30 games Once a year he played there Because once a home game And then maybe you Maybe if you got into a playoffs or something But you never had home field

advantage in the playoffs So I think he has like 18 wins Damn We did get you in that one playoffs A couple years ago That felt pretty good

You might have to fact check me on that I might have just made that up Oh no I'm not going to fact check you because it's a depressing Browns stat and they have to live with it. But one thing with being a Browns fan is you do get to be an Ohio State Buckeyes fan, so that kind of weighs it out a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

But then you have to be an Ohio State Buckeyes fan, which means you have to be associated with other Ohio State Buckeyes fans. And they're like some of the most annoying people on Earth, but I don't know. The team's pretty cool to root for. You know, I like Notre Dame, too. They're lost to Miami, but. You're a Catholicolic.

I mean, my high school was like, I went to this high school. It's like, Dwayner Light, like, or Notre Dame Light. It's called Duanger. That's what mine was. I went to Hackett Catholic Central, the Fighting Irish. Yeah, we were the Saints, but it was blue and gold. Like, guys, if you're good at football there, you go play at Notre Dame, like Tyler Eiffert. He went to my school, a couple other guys.

Did Frasco go to college? I think he went for like a semester and dropped out to be homeless or something. I can't remember. Your mom went to college. My mom did go to college. Yeah, she has a master's. I'm the only, I'm the only sibling in my family without a master's, too. Isn't that embarrassing?

I'm sorry, you can count. I can count to seven. I get kind of confused. Because that's the most wins the Browns ever have, so I don't really need to get past that anyway. So one more thing about Scotty before we go hang out with Bayliss again. I love Baylis. Was there like an audition process or did you just,

or like to kind of use that thing where Chris was gone last year to like, because you didn't know Chris was leaving, but like you kind of remembered who did well, who you got along with. Was there like an audition process? or when you knew that Chris was leaving, were you like, this is the guy? And his, and his, let me add one more thing.

Did him being good looking help? Because you want to get more girls at your shows. I think that was, that was the only thing we did there. We said, this guy's young and good looking, he's in. And that was it.

There is something to, there is something to the energy of being a young guy. Like throwing that in the mix? Like, has it helped you guys at all? Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's like, what,

10, maybe 50? I don't know how old he is, but he's in his 30 somewhere, right? I think he's 11 He's 11 Oh his birthday's on April 11 He's got a leap year birthday Yeah he's a February 29th boy

But like is there kind of an advantage To having like a young A new younger dude who's like excited Because this is like his best gig he's ever had Like regularly Is that kind of? I mean you're asking the wrong guy I got a Zelda switch

So after the show I'm like in my bunk Playing Zelda And then I wake up early Because everybody else sleeps till noon And I go golfing at like 8 a.m. Yeah I haven't caught on to that part You know

Not even parting, but does it just have a fun to have a guy that's, like, super excited to be there, I guess. Yeah, of course, of course. Scotty, as a human being, just has, like we were saying before, has a great energy. He's funny, he's quick. He's got, like, the movie quotes. He's smart. He's got a deep musical vocabulary. And whenever you're making new friends with anybody, too, it's always fun to go down that road of, like, what are your influences?

What do you listen to? What kind of stuff do you like? What did you do before? Yeah. You know, like his, his, uh, his, the bands he was with before and, and the bands he worked with and, and the type of music that he likes and, you know, with, uh, the amount of, um, access to music that we have, of humans have access to now. It's really cool. And we still do this with all of each other. Like, what are you listening to? Um, and what's new and what do you think of this? And, and, um, you know, we're all super excited for spinal tap two to come out. Yeah. That looks awesome, actually. The all the original guys. I mean, regardless, it's in my book, it's already an A-plus, the same way, like, people were mad about Happy Gilmore 2. I went into Happy Gilmore 2 knowing exactly what it was going to be, and I loved it.

I watched it with my daughters, and it was fucking funny and stupid, and that's what I expected to be. I wasn't expecting to see, like, Daniel Day Lewis's take on Lincoln. God, I'm so pissed. You know, it was like, people that aren't mad at that movie piss me the fuck off. They're like, it's so stupid. I'm like, yeah, it's an Adam Sandler sequel from 30 years ago that you just put his families in it's about golf who gives a shit just enjoy the adam sandler of it all i i mean it's

fun to be mad at stupid things and stuff too but i just in general in the world i don't understand where all the anger comes from and this is coming from an angry man i don't understand like some people get pissed off about some dumb dumb dumb shit yeah and it's like well i i get it if it's something stupid to get mad at it if they weren't trying to make something stupid but for me like when i think something is good art or like a good whatever you want to call it creative process is like did they set out did they make what they were trying to make and i think they made what they were trying to make with happy gilmore too yeah and you shouldn't be mad you can be disappointed yeah don't be fucking angry but even if you're disappointed it's like what were you

expecting yeah but disappointment's normal you know you i mean sometimes people just have higher expectations like when i go watch you perform like i don't have high expectations so i'm rarely disappointed. You know, I might be angry, actually. You play bass, all right? So, shut up. Sorry, I play an instrument. It's just not automatically in tune. All right, so.

That was a funny one. That was a good one. That was a good one. It was probably a little bit true, which is why stung so much. When you go to an Andy Frasco show, what do you expect? Actually, I haven't been to one in a while, but I always expect to be highly entertained, a little bit inspired. Sometimes have some of those moments where I know I'm going to spit out my drink and stuff

be like, what the fuck just happened. That's what I love about his energy and the spontaneity of that band. It's just, it's so fun and you just don't know in which direction it's going to be elevated into each thing. And then, you know, Andy's just, he's a sappy, funny guy. He's always got a message and a good thing. That's good for people, I think, you know. Question for you as a dad, actually, relating to Andy, show how old should your kid be before you take them to an indie frasco show what do you think if it was a movie what rating would you give it pg r pg 13 so it's interesting you're asking me that as a dad because i have um certain things that i do allow if it comes to art yeah yeah if

it's or if it comes to music like um i would have never taken my seven-year-old to see an entire Dochi show. Right. Because she's highly inappropriate for seven-year-olds. However, I did at Lollapalooza, and it was the best show. It's, that Nine Inch Nails are the best two shows I've seen this year. Dochi Flaps. She fucking crushed it.

But, you know, is it appropriate as a dad for a seven-year-old? I don't think so, but I allowed it to have me because I was letting her know, like, this is art. This is her art. This is what she's doing. This is her creativity. Uh, you know, you can say, the word fuck in the car with me if it's in a song.

Okay. But you know that I, you know that I earned those words and I can fucking say them because I fucking did my time. Yeah. And when you get to the years and you earn your curse words, you can do that. But right now you can't do that.

You can hear them. You're not allowed. Yeah. So my daughter is 12. Amelia or punky just got into six grand. She's in the school of arts for a theater major. Oh. So I was having this discussion with my wife.

Um, just last night. I'm like, there's a lot of classic films that I want her to see for nostalgia and for performance-wise. I think there's some really good cinematic and some really good acting stuff, but there's highly inappropriate stuff. I don't think she's ready to watch the entire Quentin Tarantino collection, but at some point she should because it's fucking brilliant. But right now, like, she'll watch Wednesday. She's seen stranger things. So she's seen some violence and, you know, stuff.

I feel like she's not ready to dive deep into Game of Thrones but I do want her to go back and watch like Can we watch I want her to see the comedy ones like airplane and uh Blake's gone and like there's a lot of adult humor and some of that Dazen confused probably not yet Not yet but you know that's more of a high school thing

where she's going to be aware of all of that but so I don't know when it comes to art as a dad I would take my kid to see Andy Frye I have take my kids yeah I think it's fine I think he's for the kids I think he's for the children actually yeah i mean people smoking weed is it's legal in places it's not a big deal like yeah i don't think my seven-year-old would know that he's eating mushrooms and slamming james and i don't think she'd know what that is exactly you know and and saying fuck is no fucking big deal i say fuck every fuck a day yeah

gives a fuck you know she just knows that she can't say them yet so i everything is more art based on me than things things and then you have to have teaching moments i want to teach my kids on like hey this is okay this is not okay that was inappropriate but that's okay like here's another thing that I learned real quick. I'm sorry. I'm getting excited about this. My daughter goes to the School of Arts and there's this girl on her bus that wears kiss makeup every

fucking day. Not only do I think it's fucking so cool. She's in high school, but she's like three years older, but the dedication of what time she has to wake up to fucking do that and put that through. And in my mind, she's not harming anyone. It's just her expressing

herself. And I've told my daughter, I said, this is where you're going to find out who your friends are and what type of people people are. If people are talking behind her back and making fun of her because she wears kiss makeup, those are not good people. They're insecure and they're jealous or they're making fun. Or they're just being mean. And that's just mean. So why is it a problem that she wears fucking kiss makeup? Even if you wouldn't do it or if you don't want to do it, she's not harming anybody. No. Like let people express themselves to be that and don't judge and don't be a dick. You know, like don't make fun of

people don't whisper don't be a mean girl so there's a lot of learning moments and stuff that are going on right now as my daughter reaches middle school which is attached to a high school and stuff to like talk about i mean if anything she's making the day more entertaining i think i think that's fucking cool yeah i don't know i don't know what she said she hangs out with like three other girls that are like goth and metal kids like they list the metal i'm like fuck yeah that's awesome i love metal but i just don't know i don't know what like the hey did we dare each other we're going to do it or she just feel comfortable in that makeup does she have maybe she had bad acne

and this is her way of like cover her up and she's like thinks it's cool I really don't know I'm being skeptical here but I think it's fucking cool yeah it's like maybe those kids that like you know when you go to IHop 2 in the morning they're the ones like smoking cigarettes talking about theater class you know in high school

yeah but I also want her to see really good acting and some of the movies that are like classics that uh you know people I don't know what would you say is like like some of Sean Penn's roles or day to day Lewis. Yeah.

Shawshanker. They did some. Yeah. Those are heavy movies for kids, but like they should see that. For sure. Hell yeah, man. This is a good hang. So I'm going to ask you the art.

The classic. Art, baby. The classic Andy Frasco question before we go. Actually, you know what? Just give people some motivation for this week. I'm not going to ask you what you want to be remembered by. You've already asked that. You've been asked that in.

All right. I'll do my Andy Frasco impersonation. Okay. What's up, everybody? Happy Monday. Yeah. you know it's tough getting out of bed today but fuck it let's fucking go people sun's shining it might be a little colder here in the midwest and it is in the south but it doesn't matter

where you are put a jacket on put some fucking kiss makeup on there and go out and make a difference look at other people and give them a fucking compliment compliments change people's lives smile it's fucking contagious and know deep down that you're a good at fucking person too all right wow that was pretty good man hold on thank you give me give me the applause here all right everybody that was ryan stasic you have a good rest of your day let's try to hang out next time you're in town huh yeah let's call me next sunday so we can make fun of the browns i'm always down to make fun of the browns all right later man thanks man yep see you guys later