Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - NIck & Andy: Bands That Should Quit, Bad Managers, and the Wedding Grift

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Andy Frasco and Nick ditch the guest format and go fully unfiltered on this episode of Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast, tackling one of the most honest conversations in the jam-band world, includin...g who needs to quit and why. The episode spirals into a ruthless (and mostly bleeped) breakdown of bands that should probably hang it up, bands that should come back, and why the scene feels oversaturated right now. From there, the target shifts to managers, why so many are five years behind, terrified of other managers, and still throwing money at the same tired marketing playbook. They also dig into the state of the music industry, from festival economics and oversaturation to why so many bands refuse to quit and why managers keep recycling the same outdated ideas. It's an inside look at how scenes get clogged, why presales matter, and what actually hurts live music in 2026. Producer Jack drops in to relive his destination wedding in Barbados, which was launched by a brutally honest rant about weddings, bridal showers, and the social pressure to spend thousands to prove you're "supportive." From gift fatigue to travel weddings and the misery of being too high up in the wedding party, Andy and Nick argue that the only winning move is being the seventh-best friend.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, let's name bands that need to quit. It's over. You have to bleep that. You have to bleep that. I can't live in this town anymore. I can't live in this town either. Those are my friends. To be fair, they're probably thinking of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I got one. Go. You better bleep this. I'll fucking... I swear to God. They'll say I'll bleep it. Wow. Come in.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Well, that kind of... Copy-rays, sorry. How are we doing today? Hey, everybody. Andy Frasco's World Team podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's our heads? How's our hearts?
Starting point is 00:00:47 How's our minds? How is just being here in 2006? Jesus Christ. What are you doing? You're so busy out there. I'm on my phone. Call me.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Got bling on too. Yeah. We got this watch. It's pretty sick watch. I found it in your closet. I'm going to just keep it. What do you? about.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I think it's a Seiko. What do they call it? A Seiko. That's a Seiko? It was like 80 bucks. Yep, sure it was. I'm just going to, he said I could have it. It looks good on you.
Starting point is 00:01:18 You like wearing watches? Yeah, I do actually. It looks good with a saxophone. You're like playing saxophone. You got like your sax right there and you got a silver thing. I'm rich, bitch. I got a $7,000 horn and an $80 watch on my ass. Check out my time axe player.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I got to let you know something. By the way, this is Nick and Andy episode. We're going. I haven't talked to you in so long. So we're like, fuck it. All the interviews could wait because me and my buddy Nick want to talk about things. Nick?
Starting point is 00:01:43 What do you have to tell me? You've been looking really handsome lately at your concerts. I've been looking better lately. Oh, my God. I've been getting professional haircuts. No, just the... Upgraded my wardrobe a little. Even like just the flannels you're wearing.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so weird to say how hot you look by wearing a flannel. But you look very attractive and you're really... It's like it's a nice fitting flannel. Yeah, keep going. You bought these boots. They look good. They look good.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I have style, actually. I just hide it. I know. And then I love to. Nick, I'm telling you're looking. You're looking great. Yep. And are those disco biscuit socks?
Starting point is 00:02:24 No, they're billions. Oh, cool. Fashion company. I was like, damn. I'm like, okay. The streetwear company. I would never wear a disco biscuit socks. I'd wear them because I could hide them.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah, true. kind of like how I hide that I'm still born the homies but I hide it kind of like I won't tell my friends from home I've been to a disco biscuits concert you know I don't want them to call CPS I'm like I gotta say and you know even your girlfriend I was wondering if you're having the sex because your girlfriend seems like she's super turned on by you right now she loves when I sit in with umprey's too that's her band oh my god those are her boys dude I never seen her smile so at or so much in my life I'm like damn I was like damn she's showing up to the shows the umprey shows
Starting point is 00:03:05 she's smiling. I don't think she's ever been to one of the Frasco concerts before. She came to a mission, I thought. Never seen that smile after a concert. She hates your band. I know. She doesn't really like going to concerts. No? She works at them, so it's like...
Starting point is 00:03:19 To be honest, I... I was, like, trying to date this girl, and she's like... I love concerts. I just... I will... That's all I want to do on my free time. Red flag. I'm going to be honestly, I'm not the right person for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Because I'm not going to go to concerts on my days off unless I'm supporting my friends. I'm not going to just go check in the fucking local city weekly and see whatever fucking. Yeah. You better be badass. Diverticulitis, you know, the jam band. Yeah, it's not particularly. Jesus Christ. I'm not going to do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I'm not surprised there isn't a jam band name. I haven't been to Servantes in so long. I went to Lotus last week, actually. I didn't been there to a while. Oh, I saw you fanboy and you're like, look at this fucking crowd. You went fucking peaked out to the crowd. They're rinked. They're a fanboy.
Starting point is 00:04:09 They're my friends. Oh, you're getting them some love by. I used to write some songs for them back in the day. They're good boys. They were ripping it up. It sounds like they're really organized and dancing and they have a lot of girls of their shows. I'm not going to support Scott. I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Cervantes is tough because you go at 9 and you're like, I'm going to go check out this band. And then next thing you know, it's 2.30 in the morning. It's just so hard to leave that place. It is. It's like a vortex. I used to just go so I get recognized at places. It's kind of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah. I'm kind of over that now. Yeah, but nah. No, you're not. I mean, yeah, of course. Of course. I'm still me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But like on my only day off, am I going to go to Servantes and see the same group people? Maybe. Maybe. Probably. Or am I going to go to some like really fucking weird dive bar that with three friends that I haven't seen a long time? That's kind of fun too.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It is. I like it. Um, like, uh... I had a jam band-ass weekend. I went to Lotus and then I don't know I'm freezing. Two days in a row. Oh, yeah, how is, uh, I'm freezing. They were ripping, dude.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah. Yeah, they've sold up. Don't they sound great? They sold the shit out of the Boulder Theater. They sound fucking awesome right now. Yeah, they're so good. They're never going to be bad. Scotty's wing.
Starting point is 00:05:22 His mean, he's mean potatoes. It's all we need out of him. Yep. I don't need you to be fucking flashy, Scotty. Just give me the fucking meat and potatoes. Right down Main Street. Right down Main Street. Let those boys shine.
Starting point is 00:05:34 That's your job. He sang. I saw it. Did he do go chasing Waterfalls? No, they did. Oh, did he sing that one when they did it? Did he did Chasing Waterfalls. He sang it?
Starting point is 00:05:42 He said, he did the rap. Oh, that's the count. He was pretty. I thought, Oh, God. Was he dead? Is Bob Weird died? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You're Bob Weird. Pick a different song. Ooh, I'm sending that to Bayless. One more Saturday night. It's kind of. your theme. This is the one talking about it. You love Saturday nights.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I hate them now. Actually, it's much better to go out on Tuesday. I've just been getting so overstimulated with people lately. Yeah, yeah. I just walk away now. I love doing that to people. It's so mean. And I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah. I just say, hey, I'm sorry. I'm just a little overstimulated right now. Oh, then you don't just walk away. You tell them. I tell them. Yeah. But I still, you know, old me would just listen to the whole fucking,
Starting point is 00:06:32 the 25 or just like not figure out a way to get out of the conversation I've seen there's a guy in a band that we just recently mentioned I've seen him backstage at summer camp we were both talking to some guy and he was talking about how they both
Starting point is 00:06:44 had the same name and he just turned and walked away mid-conversation I don't know to say who it was that accent kind of rule we can just believe it was shut those they'll just be like blobbing his ear off and he just turned and left
Starting point is 00:06:57 it was so bad and left me with the guy he wasn't like see you as later bleep that out please yeah bleep that out please Yeah, believe out J-Sie because he is a good dude, but who gets a fuck? He probably care.
Starting point is 00:07:05 He don't care. It was actually fucking gangster as shit. It was so badass, dude. He just like, the kid was yapping. And in his defense, he was yapping his ear off for 10 minutes. I don't even know how he was back there. It was behind the main stage of summer camp, I don't know, 10 years ago. And he's talking about how they had the same first name and it was at that point
Starting point is 00:07:21 in the conversation. Just looks at him and just turns and walks away. And the kid looked at me like, what the fuck? I was like, I went. There's nothing like. I don't know, man. Someone who gets into the fucking. artist catering who you know is just a homie of like one of the big promoters or whatever
Starting point is 00:07:36 yeah and they just fucking talk your ear off and they're chewing really loudly and they're eating all the catering and just like just doing like obnoxious jokes yeah and they're like telling you how they're not a fan while they're like being really annoying about being a fan because they don't want to see him like oh yeah yeah because you know they probably got that fucking stern talk from the promoter do not fucking fan boy right right oh you know I'm not a fan I know I know I know I'm not a fan I know everything about you. Exactly, but they know everything about you in the podcast. Like, oh, yeah, you're Andy's friend, right?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, I know you know. It's kind of fun. But, like, then you can't really get out of the conversation. Always a dude, by the way. It's never been a woman once. Yeah. Men are more annoying.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Men are more annoying than girls. Especially in groups, especially in public. Girls rule. Yeah, they're better. They're just less. They're just less. Just rule. Just less of them.
Starting point is 00:08:29 They don't. smell, they're not as big. They're like just normal. I don't know. They're just like, they're happy. They're like nicer. It's like they don't have to like nag you constantly. They're, I don't know. They're better people.
Starting point is 00:08:42 They are. Yeah. These just kind of gross. And like, eh. Hey. Yeah. They're like, yeah. I love your bands. Don't want to do a bump. Want to do a bump in the bathroom? You're like, no.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yes. I got this whole bag of ketamine. Did you want to take it and then go out to the festival? and walk around for miles and miles and miles. I found it. Found. Yeah, some guy, I saw some guy. I was at somewhere. Found it.
Starting point is 00:09:07 The guy asked me if you want to do a pump out of this bag. He's like, I found it. I was like, no, dude. You don't even know what that is. He's getting taken out on a stretcher later. He's kidding. No, I'm kidding. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:21 By the way, festival season is around the corner, people. Come buy your tickets to any festival. Literally, guys. Festals are dropping like flies. It's very important I hate to talk to you like a kindergarten teacher It's your pre-sales It's very important to support these festivals
Starting point is 00:09:38 Because if you wait last minute To support these festivals And I know they're expensive And also this whole interest Paying interest for festivals It's fucking insane Oh like the payment plan of shit Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:49 You get to pay interest on it? No but I've seen some festivals pay interest Like they charge you interest It should pay in like four installments Yeah I mean it's no different than That's probably still cheaper. Take no difference than the credit card.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Probably cheaper, actually. Probably cheaper because you're not smashing on the... What I'm saying is like, know what festivals you're going to go to. I know you can't go to all of them. Skip a couple meals. Skip a couple meals. Don't pay your car payment.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Don't pay your car. Yeah. God, I don't know. I actually feel bad for these fans. There's too much shit going on. Yeah. You wonder why no one... I totally feel for you.
Starting point is 00:10:23 There's too much shit going on, guys. There's too many fucking bands. There's too many fucking bands. Like I've been saying for years. that have the same lineup. You can't pick your alliance and just go to one. Yeah, Andes. You know, go to my festival.
Starting point is 00:10:37 There's too many bands. I've been saying, I've been saying, for years. Some of you guys got to quit. You're not cut out for this, and you're ruining it for other people. What? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Hold on, what, bands? Yeah. There's too many of you. Some of you're not very good. Okay, let's name bands that need to quit and we'll bleep them out. That we know personally. Well, let's name.
Starting point is 00:10:57 bands that need to quit. It's over. You have to bleep that. You have to bleep that. I can't live in this town. I can't live in this town either. Those are my friends. To be fair, they're probably thinking of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I got one. Go. You better bleep this. I'll fucking. I swear to God. I'm keeping the watch. They don't. Maybe just because I don't like them.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a good, great one. I think they should have quit like five years ago. They always get bleeped off. What about the older bands? I know. Oof. But they're good.
Starting point is 00:11:39 The thing is, like, the older bands are kind of good. I know. Well, the first one I said kind of isn't older band. I mean, they are actually. Not string cheese. I still like them. Soundtrived. We had them on the pods.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So no. It's hard. You don't want them to. Biscuits would be funny. if we told them to quit after giving them Jam May into the ear, you don't have to bleep that one out because I'm saying don't. They don't have to quit, but that'd be funny.
Starting point is 00:12:04 What if he said that the disco business needs to quit after giving them jamper? That's so funny. I mean, that's their peak, right? So, like, what's the way gonna go from here? World Savings Award ceremony is the peak of the jam scene. You get that splice money. You don't need it.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I know. I wonder when Barber is going to cash out on that shit. I don't know how. I think I have to go public first. I don't really know how that works, though. I just hope I'm still friends with him. You can buy me a boat or something. Yeah, I'm just,
Starting point is 00:12:28 investing in watches lately mainly it's like that a big thing of yours yeah i'm really into watches do you like this watch i was going to give it to you is it cool it's cool what is it what is it time axe would you get this out of the bottom of a lucky charm cereal i should i put this one on too i put this one on the other wrist oh dude i missed you nick yeah how's mexico oh mexico yeah please put it on the other wrist other side Damn, look at you, Mr. Watchman. They're cool, right? They feel good.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I like wearing a watch, yeah. The Rolex looks sick on you. I don't think anyone. Louie looks bad in a Rolex. I mean, some people. Women? Do they make, like, women's? Dude, women look sick in Rolexes.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Do they wear, uh, like, make lady... They make lady dainty ones. But I still don't think they should just wear the... There's a couple of these boss bitches wear the fucking gang's shit. I think it's more... Damn. You're like that dude from Marty Supreme, the guy from Shark Tank. he wears two watch. Kevin O'Leary. I hate that guy in real life.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Oh, he was good at Marty Supreme. I'm sure he was. He's playing himself. So how can it be? But like, have you seen where he tries to play guitar? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. He's so bad. Why are we gassing him up and making him think he's a lot to play guitar? I mean, I algorithm him. He's in my algorithm a lot because I'm, I have a bunch of watches. Am I? Oh, he's a watch guy. Also, you like a couple Down syndrome videos. Oh, yeah. We talked about this last time. And fucking everything is there. Yeah, I know. But they're good. They're at least wholesome.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Did we talk about this? Yeah, they're wholesome at least. It's so awesome. It fills my thing with joy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But sometimes I'm like, dude, there's a lot of Down syndrome. How can there be this many, as every Down syndrome person on the internet? This one guy, C, C's the coolest.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It's kind of weird, though. Sometimes I feel like their parents are trying to, like, monetize them a little bit. They fucking for sure are. They're pointing the video at them. But then it's like, I don't know. Do they deserve that? Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And, like, how much monetization are they actually making? I think some of them have, there's one I follow. What are they going to do ad reads? That'd be awesome. fucking rule. You just make money off like TikTok or whatever. Like there's one I follow one.
Starting point is 00:14:31 She has adopted like five Down syndrome kids and she has 1.2 million followers on TikTok. So I don't know, man. Pretty good. Hey, I don't know. I mean, I love it. I don't know, man. Two watches. Jesus God.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Nikki, two watch. I love it. Nikki, two watch. It's so happy. It's just I, it's like the same thing going back to like fucking what true love is. is like, I want to be able to express myself when I want to express myself. Even if it's sad, yelling, screaming,
Starting point is 00:15:02 we block a lot of our feelings. Hungry, tired. Tired. Yeah. Down syndrome. That's the only emotions I know. Hungry, tired. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:15:12 What do you mean sad? What do you mean sad and happy? It's hungry, tired. I have to pee. And I want that. Autism, too. I mean, I... Speaking of Down syndrome.
Starting point is 00:15:24 People who say, that's a fucking, like, bad thing. Fucking shame on you. Some of them have, like, literal superpowers of math. They're so smart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:33 But I don't understand. You need to watch down with love on Netflix. I'm obsessed with down with love. Okay, okay, you see me. I love that one. Obsessed with it. Yeah, so they need to bring back for season two. I think
Starting point is 00:15:43 humans are fucking dumb. Yeah, sort of. They got a hold. So, okay, explain. I mean, we're also very smart compared to other animals. Yeah, true. But yeah, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:15:54 But just like, Holding emotions in is dumb. Because if you hold anxiety and you get cancer, you die. Yeah? Is that what you think? I agree. You get cancer from you agree with yourself with your fucking made-up science that you did? I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Okay, so we talked about the bands I need to quit. Yeah. What about the bands that need to come back? That's a better topic, I think. Okay, definitely. I can't believe we've approached. If you have to bleep that out. I mean, I will.
Starting point is 00:16:21 My life will be over. Oh, yeah, I can't. You have to bleat that out. First one I said is insane. That one was crazy. But it's true. It's so true. I mean, like, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It's like they might agree. This is me who's not even in a band. Can't get in a band to stay my life. But I'd like to see Dupon come back. They were truly original and good. They were. Rob comp a man, so good. What about New Deal?
Starting point is 00:16:47 I would love to see a regularly touring New Deal. New Deal. I thought they're coming back. They're on the Onfries Majee. Yeah, but they're not going to be like. all around, you know. Remember their drummer quit? Because he's Scientologist.
Starting point is 00:17:00 No. This is before your time. Hold on. Hold on. And it also explained to me what Scientology is because everyone's trying to explain to me. And it's just been over my head. Like what is, what do they believe in?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Who are they giving money to? Oh my God. I don't know what they believe in. Something with alien. It's basically like a cold where you, I'm just like it killed. It's our last podcast ever. Red Dot all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I'm in the middle of my forehead. Tom Cruise comes out of the fucking hallway. John Travolta. We've got them. We've got them. Oh, man. So it's like they have this thing where like, I don't know, it's something with aliens, but you have to like upgrade in the church as you go and you don't get to learn.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I could see you falling for it because you get to learn secrets as you go up. You get more gossip as you get higher in the thing. So like somehow they, it's basically a real estate company starting to sound like a different religion. The more I talk about it. I'm just kidding. What, Judaism? Yeah, yeah, I'm kidding. So fucking dumb ass.
Starting point is 00:17:51 So basically it's like, so maybe it's nothing like Jewish. It's nothing like Judaism, actually. It's like a bunch of Hollywood people. It's a little bit like another religion, real estate and Hollywood people and everything else. No, I think about it's nothing like Judaism. It's a bunch of Hollywood people with a bunch of real estate who keep moving to Florida. So that's nothing like Judaism. Jesus Christ, like you're on fire today.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Rabbi, get off. All right, bands that should come back. Dope pod, new deal. Dopapod for sure needs to come back. That band fucking, that's the best jam band out there. I don't think they were so good. Who else I was talking about? Who was I was talking?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Oh, Gantzer? He says that was... Aqueas is great. They were good. They were good. Not like dope pot. I'll take dope hot over them though. Plus...
Starting point is 00:18:39 I wonder if... Actually, with Ganser, how Ganser plays now, he plays so much different than he was in Aqueas. He's like, it's like this maturity level. Interesting. Is he of his baby yet? One's like... Comes out in March.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Congratulations to the Gancers. They just had their baby shower. March. Oh, did you guys? Did you go? It's in March. The shower, I mean. I didn't, but I just saw pictures and it says,
Starting point is 00:19:01 my dad rocks. Baby showers are weird. I don't know. I'm actually against, baby showers are okay. Hold on what? You're against what? I'm not against baby showers.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I'm firmly against, like, wedding showers, bridal showers. It's a lot of gifts to give a couple. What's a party? What are you having a party for? Your party? A party for the party.
Starting point is 00:19:21 You're having to celebrating a future party with a party, and you get more present. But what are these? It's all a grift. Weddings are, it's a grift. Being a bride is a fucking grift, I think.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's like you get like, first of all these, and it's just so you can show your lonely single friends that you're getting married basically, right? And it's always at some inconvenient time at like Sunday afternoon,
Starting point is 00:19:40 like 1 p.m. and you're supposed to be watching football. And then they get a present and then they get to like brag about how they're not lonely. And then why are they, what's the present for? I get a baby shower.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I understand the concept there. You're helping them, you're getting them diapers. You're getting them. It's like a pre-wedding. It's like the VIP for a wedding? Kind of. But it's like a notch.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And then they get a Bachelorette party too. Or a bachelor party. But like, and so it's like a notch. I think it's like a bigger party than the Bachelorette party. You just have it like some like rich whoever's richest parents in their backyard, right? And then they get more presents. And like every time you turn around, these brides are getting presents.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And it's like, I thought you got, what's the ring for? And then you go to the wedding and then they get more presents. And they make a list of what presents you. can get them. And it's like, well, you get to pick the gift and it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:27 at what point are we going to rise that this is all just a big grift? It's a scam. It's a scam. And it's like, you're getting your dream here. We're not like with a baby. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:35 you're, it's different. I understand that. You're getting them diapers and formula and pants or whatever. But they're ruining their life. That's the difference. I think about that one lonely friend.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. Well, who has to go to every single baby shower. I feel bad for those ones. every single VIPO Jack Let's see what Jack's up to Our podcast producer is here He's on the pod
Starting point is 00:21:01 He's on the pod, hold on Um God Don't be shy He's on the pod Let's see where he's at Come here Let's go in with that
Starting point is 00:21:10 Because I feel for The lonely sad single woman Who's a friends Are all getting married Before her But she actually They usually end up being Good job Jack
Starting point is 00:21:22 Way to go Jack So but like they have to like but in some ways at least they're not like rushing into a bad decision because like half these things end a divorce anyway but I just feel for them like they gotta go fucking buy double the presents it's expensive to be a fucking
Starting point is 00:21:37 and then also like all the bachelorette the bachelorette thing two grand or whatever you know what at least and then you gotta pay for the dress the stupid ass wedding dress if you're in the wedding pay for the stupid ass wedding dress so glad I'm not a woman sometimes it's so much more expensive I feel
Starting point is 00:21:52 for these people they have to like fucking like what about like that okay so what about that best friend who just you know the guy she the best friend maybe they had a falling out they don't hang out anymore but the guy getting married
Starting point is 00:22:07 doesn't have any other friends yeah so then you have to make this guy like I love you man that movie yeah or just like no just the best friend like oh fuck and then you feel bad you're right then you're at the bastard party and then you're like the only one
Starting point is 00:22:23 who he actually knows and you want to just say stuff. The best zone to be in as a guy friend is, for me, is why I try to live is like, you want to be like someone's like seventh best friend, I think. What do you think? Seventh? Yeah, because you don't want to be in the bachelor party.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You don't want to be one of the guys that has to wear tucks and stand up there and go to the bachelor party and care and get there at noon and give a shit. Right. But you want to be cool enough that you, or you want to go to the bachelor party, but you don't want to be in the wedding party. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So you want to be like just. good enough friends that you get to go to the strip club like the weekend before and like lose your mind and have a good time. But you don't want to be such a good friend that you have to commit to anything to help. I'm literally that friend for everyone. Me too. It's kind of rules. It's the best. I don't have to be in any fucking party.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I've been in one wedding. I'll never be a best man. I mean, that's too late. I don't think I'll ever be. I mean, I'll probably, you'll probably be my best man.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Oh, you're never getting married. I'm not going to your wedding. Fuck's that. I'll give you this watchback as a gift. That's funny. I wrap this up. Just wrap it up.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You forgot. It was a loaner. You forgot I had it for 10 years. That's actually a good point, Nick. Being the seventh best friend in a wedding group rules. You go to the titty bar. Or any group of guys. You're doing the drugs with everyone.
Starting point is 00:23:40 You're partying. You go to the wedding. Everybody likes you because they don't see you that much. Yes. No one's over your shit. No one's over your shit. It's like, hey, next year. It's going to be funny for half an hour.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. Yeah. And then you don't have to deal with like wearing the same. fucking tie and suit. Going there at noon and caring and sweating all day and like being tired and just fucking caring about it. Who cares about a wedding? Weddings are the worst. You know what I mean? By the way, don't have a wedding for
Starting point is 00:24:04 your second wedding either. That's fucking insane. Jeff. What do you, Jeff Bezos? Jesus. Nick, you're on fire. Well, like weddings, I don't know. Weddings just pissed me off. I don't know. What about the, okay, then I feel for the people who go to the
Starting point is 00:24:18 the travel wedding and then they get divorced. So you spend all this money to do this fucking travel wedding fuck your destination wedding dude the only reason why I would do a destination wedding so I cut the fat of who's coming to the party it's a good way to weed out like your poor friends from like going to what
Starting point is 00:24:37 you or whatever like if you don't want any poor people your wedding which is understandable because the gifts aren't going to be as good you just have it in Mexico I guess so the gifts are going to be yeah weddings are for grandmas weddings for grand yeah but what a yeah true marriage is such a sham anyway now everybody just it's divorce or cheats.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So it's like... I remember when I was a bar mitzvah. Both my parents have been married like three times. And it's got to be a lot of pressure to have a great wedding because everyone's judging her wedding. Oh, it's a competition, especially if you're first. It's all fucking competition, like with weddings and like, oh, the food didn't come in time or oh, they got a food card or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's like, shut up, bitch. I got married in barbedo. Oh, Jack's here. Jack, come up here. Talk about this. He got married. He got married. married and Barbosa.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That's a ninth. You just get here, Jack? That's a Brazilian basketball player. Our podcast producer is here. We could talk exactly about this wedding situation. Jack Gould. Andy's divorced. First time on the show, Jack.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I think I had the other show before, but. Hey, Jack. Hey, but he's been divorced. They're all looking like, I'm like, no, yeah, this is exactly the point is I got divorced and I also had a destination wedding
Starting point is 00:25:52 in Barbados. In Barbados. Hold on what. Okay, so, how did you feel put the mic a little closer how did you feel for your friends who fucking traveled to Barbados
Starting point is 00:26:04 to come and celebrate you and then you got divorced not great except I did help a lot of them go to the wedding in the first place oh that's actually respect I booked some Airbnbs and stuff okay
Starting point is 00:26:19 so in your brain did you think I could wean the fat a little bit I could maybe less people will show up because it's in Barbados. Yeah, for sure, but it wasn't like the right people that didn't show up, you know? Really? Like what? Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah, like my dad couldn't come. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Okay. So, bummer. Not the smartest decision for a wedding, especially now that I'm divorced. I fucking got that Airbnb for that piece of shit friend I had in college that helped me run my show festivals. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. questions and we'll let you go. All right. Traveling there, does that mean the gifts were worse? Because they had to travel this far. Were the gifts worse? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. I didn't really get much gifts from, it was like their presence.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Do you regret that? Kind of. You wanted the gifts. I mean, yeah. And the money. Now I'd have to like give most of them to my ex anyway. So, yeah. Respect.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It's part of divorce, Jack. You wanted this life. Yeah. How was the sex like as a vacation? How is a wedding sex? How's wedding sex? Wedding sex was cool. You're too drunk?
Starting point is 00:27:35 No, I rolled. I ate some molly. Oh, okay, cool. Nick, any questions? Nick's never going to get married. It's common law by now. Okay. One last question.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Where have you been? Where have I been? Today? Yeah. Oh, I was filming a video for a company called GoTracks. So I guess we should start talking about our marketing company while you're here. Oh, yeah, okay, sure. Jack and I are starting a marketing company.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And Jack has basically been on my ass for the last six months about getting on the internet. And I feel like I've ever been making you proud? Oh, yeah, big time, man. Let's go. Big time. Thank you. I'm working hard. I got someone to bounce off ideas.
Starting point is 00:28:22 We're starting a consulting firm, a marketing consultant. consulting for bands. People have been asking about it. Jack, tell them a little briefing before we let you off. This is a free plug where I'm going to charge you for this after this. You're the president. All right. Well, so people have been asking about this because they've seen all the dumb shit you've been putting on the internet.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And it's been doing really well. It's been doing really well. Yeah, numbers are good. And so that kind of led me to think, hey, maybe we should take this show on the road and teach some other people how to make stuff. Do we have a name for the marketing company yet? No, I do not. Okay, cool. Respect.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I like this. This is still a fresh idea? It's very fresh. So any bands you need help, consulting, haul out your boys, and we will set you up with Jack. And I like to say, Jack,
Starting point is 00:29:05 thank you so much. You've been really killing this podcast. Thanks, man. I think he's been doing a good job. What do you think his report card is, Nick? It's all a B plus A minus. B plus A minus. B plus seems by right to me.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I think you did good. I think we're building a brand with the pod. Our reels are getting better. I think we're more focused. We're more dialed in. and because of you, thank you. Oh, well, thanks, man. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Good to be on the pod. That doesn't mean you can't go to fucking work sometimes, Jack. Right, for sure. Well, thanks for bringing me on to talk about my divorce and my wedding that I regret. That was great. All right, have a great day. Yeah. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Good luck. Thank you. Thank you, Jack. Thank you. Thank you, brother. God bless. God bless. This is a call to action.
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Starting point is 00:32:12 them know Frasco and Jason's huge hog sent you. All right, goodbye for the interview. What do you think of Jack? I just said it. What do you think of him? While he's walking down the stairs. I like Jack. We look the same sports teams.
Starting point is 00:32:29 We do. I like Jack. I think you really helped our lives. How do I get on? Can you hear me? Oh, it's this. Oh,
Starting point is 00:32:35 I also, how does Fro from Dope But have money to go to all these vacations? We're trying to figure out how he goes to Hawaii. Like, what's he do? Yeah. We know Dan,
Starting point is 00:32:44 well, we don't pay him that much. All right. Very suspicious. Maybe it's girlfriend's rich. You think he's what? Trust fun? No,
Starting point is 00:32:52 She has a job. Do you think he's got a trust fund? Every woman is rich isn't just because they have a trust fund. They have jobs too. No, I'm talking about fucking, Fro you fucking. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Don't try to patronize me. I don't get out of this marketing company. I want a part of this. You want to be part of this? I am pretty good at YouTube now. Yeah. And by the way, Nick, I do need to make some more money.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I haven't really been. I'm just, money's not tight right now. I'm just not really making any money. You're holding. You literally have two watches on. You have a Rolex. I'm not really making money lately.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I just got to get my bottom line. Yeah, I can run the YouTube for that company. We should really, hey, Jack, we're really serious about this? Yeah. All right, I'm in. I'll be the head YouTube guy for them. Might as well start another company.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Fuck it. I'll be the YouTube consultant for your marketing company. Boom, got it. God knows the music industry is just fucking just tanking. The best thing about helping bands of marketing is they have so much money to throw around for this kind of stuff. I know. Well, you know, if we could convince it's the, it's the hoarders. It's the fucking record labels who are putting, they're allegating money to records and singles into the wrong
Starting point is 00:33:51 It's like, who gives a fuck about a Spotify ad? I was talking to John Shields about this. I'm like, yo, send me what their record label did to promote their last record. I want to see what's up because we're about to release a new song. And I want to see how they're allegating the marketing money because we have, what's our budget, Jack? We have no budget. Yeah, that's really bad. We have no budget and we are kicking ass.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah. We added 25,000 people in a month and a half. Creativity is better than money. yeah well it's just being strategic with the money you have instead of just like throwing shit out of because everyone throws shit at that same wall eventually the wall
Starting point is 00:34:31 just filled with one color shit yeah the problem with managers is they're not that was really poetic yeah thank you they're not in I'm gonna clap for myself the problem is a lot of managers I don't want to say every managers they're not you're not inherently creative people that's why they're managers
Starting point is 00:34:45 so the fact that they probably shouldn't be the ones in charge of allocating marketing budgets and so all they do is just copy whatever someone else is doing. Manages aren't that creative. They're always like five years behind too, by the way. They are. I'm surprised you,
Starting point is 00:34:57 like, they're not like, you should get on Facebook. You guys need to get on Facebook. Y'all need to get a TikTok going. Yeah, no shit, dude. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:35:04 yeah, I mean, we've, TikTok's been going on. Yes, yeah, let's get a TikTok. Here's your 10%,
Starting point is 00:35:09 dude, like, you know what? I think you need to get on the internet more and make some more real. No, no shit. I'm already doing that.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Been doing that for 15 years, brother. What else do you want to say? Yeah. Bitch. I just don't. Managers are funny. I got lucky with mine.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I do like your manager and a couple others. I got some tists with them too, though. Whatever, you're in Andy. I know, but I think, you know. No,
Starting point is 00:35:35 I get it. But I'm just saying in general managers are just guys that got met someone. In general management is kind of weird. They're just some guy that met someone in college
Starting point is 00:35:41 and they got famous, whether they would have been their manager or not. Then they can pretend they're the ones that did it and they're not creative at all. And they're pussy. and they're scared of other managers. Stop being pussies, dude. I can't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Your job is to be mean so your artist doesn't have to. Oh, let's play that game which managers should quit. Okay. Oh, I got one. You got one? All right, what is it? Are you going to bleep it out? Hey, Joe and Jack bleep this out like we said,
Starting point is 00:36:07 what band should quit? Thank you. Just, B, that's manager. Jesus Christ. We can't even tell. We can't even say what manager. company he's in.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah. Okay. Brian Schwartz. I'm just kidding. No, we love Brian. I like him actually. Um. I don't know enough to really.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh, I know. I have one. Okay. Um. I only know him. I don't think I know him. He does. Oh, I don't know him.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I can't even, I can't even say that the man to get killed. Um. So anyway, Scientology is. like this. Who should be a manager? Oh, that's, you could probably do it. I would be a great manager. You'd be a great manager.
Starting point is 00:36:57 You'd probably be a better manager than a piano player. I basically, for sure, that's not even actually an up for debate. No, I'd be a way better manager than a piano player. Let's see. You know how else would be a good manager?
Starting point is 00:37:09 I think I'd be a good agent compared to manager. You'd be a good agent. Not manager, though. I can't. You know who'd be a good manager? Kevin Shields. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I don't know him. well enough to really comment on that, but I believe you. And then, um... That's the fun one, right? No, John Shields is the fun one. Okay. Kevin is kind of like... He's engaged.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Everything sucks, but... Oh, really? He's kind of like down on that. Why, he's in love? I don't know, he still has that shaded darkness. It's the love. But he does have... He has been happier since he had Sarah, so shout out for to Sarah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I like Kevin. He's a good dude. He's a real. He's a real motherfuckercker. I like... Sometimes, like... A couple years ago, and I was heavy on the blow. I'd be, it'd be 6 a.m.
Starting point is 00:37:54 We're all just hanging out. He's like, I'd be just talking about. I don't want to fucking quit. He's like, yeah, you should fucking quit. Just quit. Should we get some nitrous? Just quit. Kind of sounds flannel.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Just watch a TV. Sounds way better than going on. That's what we did that day. I remember right to scathen left? You're probably like, where's Nick? Oh, dude, you just walked out. I don't really like saying. Like, we all knew.
Starting point is 00:38:21 What's the point? Actually, that sounds kind of fun to do. You want to just do that and watch some television? Maybe. I have to check in with the boss, my manager. You're why? Julie would be a good manager. She'd be an awful manager.
Starting point is 00:38:32 She's too shy. Oh, these guys are going to have, they're going to hate editing this episode. She'd be a terrible manager. She'd be a good day to day, but she's too shy. Oh, you know, we haven't even talked about Mexico. I know. Get into it.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Okay. A lot of things went down. Set the scene. So we bought this hotel. We bought this hotel in Toto Santos. and I was trying to back out of it. This is my first time being exclusive about backing out of it. I've been telling you this.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah, yeah. I didn't want to spend the money. I didn't think that the economy's kind of fucked up. I shouldn't be spending it on this leisurey fucking hotel thing. And I went in there. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm fell in love with it. It's just in a small town, yada, yada. So we were in, we paid, we got it.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I went in there. And just like, you know, it's kind of Jimmy rigged. you know, it's Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not going to be this pro thing. So, you know, there's a couple bands who are on it, like lettuce or like, you know. Oh, the festival, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, it's, it's basically a civil war between the looseness of Mexico bands and the crew and the professionalism of people trying to run a festival.
Starting point is 00:39:46 No, just like what some bigger tier bands expect. in their performance. Right. You know. So it was kind of a little philosophy, you know, humbling. Yeah, yeah. But we, after a couple days and we realized what we're all getting ourselves into, we're like, we all played ball.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was this one crazy thing that happened to fucking fruition. Go. Some guy, I get, some, like, local. And Jacob and Megan, you know Megan, Megan rules, and Jacob rules. They have twins. I don't know him as well. The mom fucking rules.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Oh, his mom or her mom? Megan's mom rules. I could see that. She rules. She's hot. She's like, I'm like, damn, you're hot as fuck. She was hot. I like older women.
Starting point is 00:40:32 So I thought she was a attractive woman. Megan's hot too. I mean, it's in the jeans. She's going to be, that whole lineage is going to be hot. But this guy ran his car into the hotel. Into the hotel room and was kind of dazed out and started pounding on. her door saying, open up. And like, she's got twins.
Starting point is 00:40:55 She's vulnerable. And Jay, too. And like, poor Jay and like the mom, like, scared. You're in Mexico. Random. Okay. Complete, complete random.
Starting point is 00:41:07 He thought this guy was having this episode. Right. He's probably just whacked on him below or something. They said low blood sugar. But how do you, he don't get like that. Come on. You don't get like that.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's cocaine. But like, I've never been like that on cocaine. cocaine have you? No, I try not to. And he's pounding on the doors and pounding on the doors. And then the cops had to come and they're calling the cops. Like, please, we are scared. This guy's trying to get.
Starting point is 00:41:32 And then the guy tried to go in through the back and fucking pound on the door. Jesus. And it was just this guy who was just like, kind of like just losing his mind. And they took him to jail and shit. And like, they took him to hospital and just mental ward. They should have kept his car, Jay. Jane Megan This is a great way
Starting point is 00:41:50 to promote this festival by one fucking cream But everything else was great I mean we played on the beautiful On the beach Saw all those views Yeah It's unbelievable
Starting point is 00:41:58 And like you know You're on the beach And there's a thousand It's a thousand people Who live there It's just like It's the coolest place But that was that one hiccup
Starting point is 00:42:06 And then Adam Dites fell off the stage Which was I'm sorry what Fucking hilarious That sounds so funny dude Dude it was I
Starting point is 00:42:14 Because he's like he's like Him doing something Embarrassing is so funny And him just being embarrassed. He's not like you or he like, actually, me and I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:42:23 we're talking about you actually about how you like they're like, how does he just do all the stuff? I was like, Andy doesn't have the ability to get embarrassed. He's like,
Starting point is 00:42:31 you know how Dawes can like shit in front of traffic? That's kind of like you. You can do that. But like, Dyche doesn't like that at all. Like, Dyche doesn't like to be vulnerable
Starting point is 00:42:38 like that. So him falling off the stage was probably insane. Oh, it was great. It was great. You didn't get hurt or anything. He didn't get hurt.
Starting point is 00:42:43 He didn't get hurt. He may fucked up his words a little bit, but whatever. Yeah. It was just, you know, I love Dyche, but sometimes it gets a little ahead of himself a little bit. He's a good buddy. He's a good buddy of mine. He's a good dude, but it was really funny to see him fall off that stage. He just fell into the sand and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Oh, okay. Well, that's all right. But he heard of him. He's like, fuck, mother. I know. I could see how pissed he would get. He could be so pissed. You know who's been melling him out?
Starting point is 00:43:06 He's got this new girlfriend. Yeah, yeah. She's cool. And she's really fucking cool. I think I met her once. And I think it's melling him out. Yeah. It's good.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Getting laid regularly. we'll do that to a man. Yeah. But like, no, he's like, I've never seen Dites like going like on a kayak. Yeah. Motherfucker is kayaking and hiking and shit. Oh yeah? Yeah, I want to see.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, I guess he's not really the outdoorsman, is he? Fuck no. More of a vampire. I've never seen that man out in the daylight. He was really good in sinners. Oh my God. It's a vampire movie. He was in sinners?
Starting point is 00:43:40 No, I'm kidding. I'm just joking about him being a vampire. Yeah, he's always. he's at night. So I think this girl's mellow him out. I think, because you know, like if normally if Dites would have fell off the stage, he would have went ballistic. Yeah. There's absolutely ballistic. He kind of like
Starting point is 00:43:54 laughed at himself and fucking shook it off and fucking kept it moving. Good old Adam. He also hung out with those really cool, Zootis. He's the man. Sootis rules. So chill. Nice of how it was being weird. A lot of good sex players down there.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah, we had Drew Sayers. Not me. I don't know. I didn't. I thought I thought Scott liked you. No one invited. I don't think Scott likes me anymore, I guess. That's bullshit. Maybe next year. He also lost his ass on that thing.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm not mad about it, but maybe you should tell us. I don't think we're going to fund it again. Maybe we're not going to fund it again. Well, tell Scott to hire me for more stuff this year next time he talks. It's two different philosophies. I think, I think the locals should run that festival. Yeah, I believe it. Because it is an amazing festival.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It's like South by Southwest from Mexico. It's such a great experience. I'm get to go. I'm going to the umpries one. It's a lot of you cool. You want to come to the house after? We're going straight to Cabo after the Cancun thing. Oh, maybe.
Starting point is 00:44:47 That'd be cool. I thought the vessel was in Cabo. It's not. It's in Cancun. It's on the other side of the country. It's in mainland. Isn't Cancun and mainland? Yeah, it's on the...
Starting point is 00:44:57 But this is Baja. From the Gulf Coast, isn't it? But it's on inside Mexico. Cabo is Baja. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We also got Montezuma's revenge. You did? Water.
Starting point is 00:45:09 20 times. Sounds awful. The chills. Hey, tell Scott to hire me for more stuff this year, Scott. I used to hire me a lot more. No, I'm just kidding. No, we're calling him. Don't do that to him.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Hey, Scott, we got Nick on the line. No, talk to him about the Mexico thing. Don't do that. They just don't do as much stuff. I am doing something there with Cotter from Goose in a couple months next month. Oh, and Cervantes? It's like me, Cotter, a couple of his homies and someone else. We haven't really flushed it out yet, but I'm doing a gig there with Codder.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Doesn't Cotter look like one of those pirates from Hook? Welcome Mac. What? yeah kind of he looks like that the pitcher pirate yeah he kind of does actually he looks like one of those pirates from hook or like a civil war era major league baseball player yeah
Starting point is 00:45:54 he's got that like um shoeless he's got that that long um vein neck vein he does he really god damn you've been jerking off to his Instagram or something he's got a little muscles he's kind of cute I like otter I don't know I'm super well I've been jerking off to it no no he just
Starting point is 00:46:11 he kind of looks like a Muppet, you know? Everyone does if you're doing enough drugs. I look like a Muppet for sure. Yeah, Denzel looks like a Muppet all the time. Denzel. Muppet ass. Hit ass.
Starting point is 00:46:23 There are goose in the headlines lately. Are they okay? Yeah, I think that's probably a good sign. I think they haven't been playing so many shows. They just announced their fucking, they're doing a mass and square garden again, so they must be doing okay. It's fucking awesome. Good for them.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I think they're in two nights. Really? Damn. Good for you, boys. Keep killing it. Yeah, everybody's fucking loves it. make fun of them online. Because they can.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It's fucking... They're just jealous. Some fucking jealous fucking losers. Let the fucking... Jam-Ban fans are kind of insufferable online. They are a little insufferable. I've been slowly getting out of all those jam-band pages. They have too many theories and they think it's like...
Starting point is 00:46:57 They think the jam-band scenes like way bigger than it is. Like, no one's... It's not. No one cares about the jam-man. No one's going to do a conspiracy in this scene, dude. There's no fucking... There's nothing... What do they have to gain to fucking... What, yeah, the Peter Shapiro's shit and...
Starting point is 00:47:10 So they can lose $8 grand? What's the point of, like... I don't know. I think they think the Luminati is way cheaper than it actually is. And they don't know anything about like what a manager is or who's a manager or like what a tour manager is compared to Ritz. Like everybody, they all think they're experts on it and it's just getting kind of old. Well, we're also just old. We're just bored of it.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But we say it's getting old and then we talk about all this shit every week. It's true. I thought it was stupid always. Everyone when I was younger. It's just dumb. It's always like non-musicians. We literally made award ceremony of jam band drum. Yeah, but that was funny.
Starting point is 00:47:46 It was. It was funny. Yeah, and also I know what I'm talking about and they don't. We've got the inside source. I know what a fucking a major court is. It's like probably like if you were like Patrick and Mahomes listen to us, talk about football. Like what's the fuck are these guys? Oh, you know who else was there?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Who I love? John Craigie. I like him. Do you need a sax player? I was kidding. He knew he had the coffees brothers who were cool I love that whole scene Fruelly
Starting point is 00:48:17 By the way Coffes brothers Craigie I don't know those I'm sorry shook I don't know brothers guys That's a different scene than you Yeah I know Anna Moss She used to have that handmade moments
Starting point is 00:48:26 She was I The first time I The second time I played Fayetteville Was it with her She's awesome Handmade moments right That was her band Yeah she broke up with her boyfriend
Starting point is 00:48:35 Was he the bass player guy The Tua player Oh okay She's on the market people Oh really She's uh She's a babe, and she's cool and she's fucking awesome. She's got an interesting style.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Someone's going to snatch her up. She deserves happiness. Yeah? Yeah. You know how's his baby? Lori Shook. God, she rules. I don't think I know who that is.
Starting point is 00:48:55 The Shook Twins? Portland? Oh, okay. Then yes. They're so cool. And John Cruey's just so cool. Jack Craigie is so cool. I didn't realize how little John Craigie was.
Starting point is 00:49:04 When he hung out with him a hundred times. I don't know, but he's just a little. He's like a dainty dude. Funny guy, actually. He's like a toothpick. funny guy I bet he's making money out there He's always like so
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah But it was great And the Cordova's ruled I mean I love Luca Joe and I are getting along again Which is good What do you mean You weren't getting along
Starting point is 00:49:22 No I think we had He thought me coming in He thought I was like Trying to take his turf or something Out there in Mexico I'm like I'm not trying to take your turf Let's just all help each other out Let's we got to play in the same sand pit
Starting point is 00:49:33 There's two men This town is too small To have fucking beef on this I talked to them about this Are they from there or what's their deal They live there's six months once out of the year. Weird.
Starting point is 00:49:44 That's what I want to do. What do they do for money? I want to... It doesn't cost that much but also they make money. Cordova's make money. I mean... Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And Joe, Joe, he fucking made a shit. He used to be fucking Carson Daly's like band director. What? Yeah, he was like they had music director. On that one show he had,
Starting point is 00:50:04 the late night show? The late night Carson Daly show. That show went for so long. It went for like 20 years and I don't think... I know seven people would have seen it. It was fucking talented.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Carson Dealey. I mean, all the Cervantes crew, I mean, we're all drinking the Kool-Aid over there at TOTA Sato. We fucking love it. It's cool. You can convince me Carson's Daily never existed. I don't remember his late-night show. I remember Daly or the T.F. It's on after Conan for half of the time.
Starting point is 00:50:28 What is it? T-L-C-R-L. Total request live. MTV's done. Did you know that? They ended on... Yeah, I heard they ended with video killed the radio star. No more ridiculousness.
Starting point is 00:50:39 poor Rob Deirdrick, what is he going to do? I don't know, count his skateboard money. He kept that fucking, he legit kept that TV company around. He's like a psycho now. What do you mean? Like, he's like a type A fucking CEO, like fucking. He's always been scheduled out his whole day, like from the... He started DC.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah, I know. That's true. We need to get him on the show. It's just interesting to go from like... We got Tony Hawk. We get Deerjerk on the show. He's a biz man. From skateboarding guy to like,
Starting point is 00:51:09 fucking. He had a rev share in MTV too. Yeah, for sure he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. DC, fucking, probably Pepsi, I don't know. Banquet. But overall, I would give that festival B plus.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Pretty good, pretty good. And I'm going to be doing it every year. I think. I thought you just said they weren't doing it again. They're doing it every year. They're doing it. Joe is. I'm going to play because I'm like local there.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Oh, you're saying Scott's not going to be involved in it. He's going to be involved, but I don't think we're going to bring like, I don't know. A whole Denver crew down. I don't think there's turf war going on. Really? It was weird a little bit Coon's there Yeah I couldn't believe Coon showed up
Starting point is 00:51:43 Why I don't know He's like a hundred kids It's two kids Feels like a hundred And they're in And they're little They're his kids So they're like real little
Starting point is 00:51:53 They are and it's hard to travel Him and Sarah are so little And they have these little tiny kids They're probably easy to keep They're probably hard to keep track of actually And also like let them have their own Like fuck yeah Get out there and go fuck
Starting point is 00:52:03 Hell yeah That's how they have that second kid In the first place Coon's like buff as hell He's jacked dude jacked he's the he's the guy who started
Starting point is 00:52:13 live for live for live music I love Coonge um we got shows guys I gotta talk about the shows God this is a great episode we went over a lot What show How long we've been going
Starting point is 00:52:22 It's already an hour Oh no That's where to go Oh my god Isn't that crazy We didn't have to call anyone today I'm trying to think uh All right guys
Starting point is 00:52:31 Tour started Um Next week We uh are we got Wednesday we're playing Phoenix That shows almost sold out. Shout out to Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:52:40 The reschedule of Flagstaff, Arizona, that was Las Vegas, is not looking good. We're at 50 tickets. Guys, I know. I don't fucking know anyone in Flagstaff. I know. This show's going to bomb. Get up to college. If you know any ants or fucking cougars in that town, go fucking send them my way.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Friday, back home, Trubidor on the 30th. That's doing okay. I think we'll get closed. We'll sell it out. I think we'll sell it out. Salana Beach is closed to sell it out. slow ticket. And I looked at the ticket sales for Pioneer Town and Pappy and Harriet on the first of February.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Wow, that place is still going. And it looking pretty good. All these tickets are looking pretty good. And then Tuesday, Crystal Bay, Nevada, Crystal Ballroom, looking really good. San Francisco is a little week, but I got two weeks to promote it. I'm going to work hard. I'm going to promote it. Then I'm going to, on the fifth, I'm getting a new tattoo in Portland.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I'm going to be in Portland for two days. What are you going to tattoo? Same guy who does all my shit. I don't know yet. I got two weeks to figure out. Maybe you. Maybe I'll get you. Nick.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Just put Nick in block letters. Oh my gosh. I put Nick with a heart. With a Rolex on? With a Rolex. What if it's... That's funny. Can't count money.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Portland on the 6. Where's that at? The Get Down. I'm excited. Those tickets are pretty good. Yeah, I'm really proud of this tour. Thanks, guys, for buying tickets to this. That's just hard.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah. to Eva. Eva and Matt have been really pushing the West Coast, so thank you so much for doing that, guys. Seattle on the 7th. I'm excited to go see my boy Tony. And then the Bellingham Washington on the 8th. Western Washington.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I'm in Centralia, Washington. That just got added. I think it's like some private thing. Sounds like a cult meeting. Then I'm going to, that's my birthday. Fuck. What are you going to do for your birthday? 20-20. 2016. I'll be 38 years old.
Starting point is 00:54:40 My birthday's 98. Okay. That's crazy. What are you going to do for your birthday? I don't know. You want to do something? Or should I go to Mexico? Have a bridal shower?
Starting point is 00:54:50 I'm going to have a wedding. I'm going to, I'm going to marry a woman from Mexico. And we're going to, I'm going to make everyone fly to Mexico. You can get a Mexican citizenship. Follow us on Instagram. Follow us on, hey, follow us on YouTube. We need, we need that we're... I got a hundred fifty years left week.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Really? Yeah. Nick, you're killing it. Nick is running our YouTube. and he's just fucking crushing. I'm learning so fast. And, uh, you want me to run your bands.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Everything's getting bigger. I like, I think the podcast, do you feel the podcast getting bigger? Everyone, I do. The videos are getting more numbers. They're getting more traction.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah. It's just, people are just, ADHD, short-formed people. We're getting positive feedback on our interviews, too, from people, except for the comedian ones
Starting point is 00:55:30 because every comedian just divides every crowd in half. Next week, we have wolves of Glendale. They're funny. They were funny. And then who? And then we have Nancy Wilson Yeah, that was a great interview.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And then I'm going to do a podcast with the band. Boom. I'm just kidding. I'll do an opening for that by myself. Do it opening by yourself for that. And then McGoo? 45 minute opening. If I don't do with the band,
Starting point is 00:55:53 Nick's going to do an opening on the 17th. Wait, what do you mean? I can do an opening. I mean, do the whole thing. Yeah, that'd be fun too. I can interview somebody. I might take the week off for that. You do it.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I don't you take a week off. I'll figure something out with Jack. Okay, cool. All right. Cool. Nick's going to do the February 17th. Less work for me. I'm always down.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah, dude. And then the 24th, we have Magoo. That was a cool interview. It was, it was pulling teeth a little bit. I wasn't on that one because remember there was too many of them. I was, you know, it's like I had to rev them up a little bit. You know, they're bluegrass. Bearsack would be a good clip.
Starting point is 00:56:23 But the Bears attack. Some guy got mauled by a bear in that. I got shit this pants on stage. But they ended up loosening up and we had a great conversation. At first, they thought I was like attacking stories. Check out Magoo. Check out Magoo. They're the new hot guys.
Starting point is 00:56:36 They're like the new kitchen dwellers, right? New kitchen dwellers. They're playing Cervantes tomorrow. I'm thinking about going. Maguas? No, the kitchen dwellers. Oh, you should.
Starting point is 00:56:45 They're playing cerves. It's opening in the other room. Oh, Jim Cotta is with Jim Cotta. Yeah, that's a funny bearing. Yeah, it's very funny. I was curious why Barbara was on that bill. But whatever. It's kind of smarter, actually.
Starting point is 00:56:57 They need to get on the Cervantes stuff. It's also like better to have two bands and also have the same crowd anyway. Exactly. All right, guys. Good luck. Come to trivia or whatever. Yeah, and come to trivia every Monday if you're in Denver. But to get there early, it's been fucking packed lately.
Starting point is 00:57:09 he's a hot commodity I've been asking to get a raise And he's too pussy to fucking No I got it's just too soon to ask for another one You bitch about money Oh I don't have money I don't have money They don't ask for a raise
Starting point is 00:57:19 I don't ever bitch Don't ask for me about a raise up I ask them about a raise up Don't ask me about I did I got a raise last year Don't ask me for no fucking raise I gave you a nice little Christmas present You did
Starting point is 00:57:29 I blew it all on this watch Goodbye Goodbye Goodbye

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