Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Respect Your Elders: Beverly and Tim

Episode Date: July 24, 2026

In this unforgettable episode of Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast, Andy sits down with two residents of Kavod Senior Life whose life stories are filled with resilience, heartbreak, humor, and hope. Beverly shares an incredibly emotional journey through childhood abuse, addiction, domestic violence, and ultimately finding faith and sobriety. Her story is one of survival, forgiveness, and discovering purpose after unimaginable trauma. Today, she dedicates her life to helping women facing the same struggles she once endured. Then, sociology professor Tim Diamond brings decades of wisdom—and plenty of laughs—to a wide-ranging conversation about healthcare, Social Security, climate change, education, aging, and what younger generations should know before it's too late. Along the way, he reflects on near-death experiences, teaching around the world, and why conversation is still one of humanity's greatest tools. This episode is a powerful reminder that every person has a story worth hearing, and that some of life's greatest lessons come from those who've lived the longest. If these conversations moved you, please like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who could use a little hope today.

Hi. Hi. I'm Andy. Hi, Andy. I'm Beverly. Beverly, how old are you? 50. 65, I'm lying.

You look fantastic. Thank you. Where are you from, Beverly? Originally London, England. And my dad was in the Air Force, met mom over there. And I was there for 12 years and then came to Aurora, Colorado. Okay. To the Air Force Base.

Yeah. And stayed. And stayed until I was 20. Got married, went to San Diego for 20. three years, got married, had two kids, and I'm a grandma for beautiful children. Oh, that's basic. Yeah, we got divorced. I'm back.

I know. I can't stay there. What was the job you wanted to do when you were a kid? Be a nurse. Oh, that is a... That's a very common thread. Is it really? Yeah.

I became a dental hygienist instead, and I'm like, I should have been a nurse. What did you like about being a nurse? Taking care of people. Yeah. I love taking care of people. Yeah. You know, it's like, do you feel like we're losing that nurturing touch in society right now? Yeah, a lot.

You want to explain that a little bit? What do you see? Just a lot of bullying, and I have a little granddaughter that's 13, and Elena and then Ava's 11, you know, my young, the middle one. And they just get bullied a lot at school. Really? And I'm a Christian. So I have a really hard time with people being mean and nasty. So I said, I'm going to come down there and watch him.

Grandma was going to go up and grab them by. No, I'm just kidding. When did you find religion? It was December 5, 1989, when I went to San Diego before I had my kids and everything. And I was really drinking a lot and partying a lot then. Oh, you were? Oh, okay. What was Bev like before?

before the Lord. Crazy. I'll clap to that, actually. A little crazy. Yeah. What were you getting into? Just like back in the, you know, on the 80s. We were just doing things from the 80s. Mainly though I was never like into drugs.

No. No. Because I'm very hyper, so I don't need any, like, cocaine or meth or whatever that. I don't need any of that. What about alcohol? Yeah. You loved it. Valium.

Valium. Oh, you're like the downers. Oh. Downers. because I'm very hyper. I like you just real high-strung person. What do you like about volume and booze together? Just the relaxation.

It just made me feel I had a really hard time being around people. Yeah. You know, like dancing when you went to the bar. So I always had to drink or do a volume before I could even. Wow. Yeah, I was very insecure. So what was the tipping point? I got married and we were planning going to have a family.

And I said, I don't want any of the stuff in my body. So gave it and found God, I found the Lord at Horizon Christian Fellowship in La Jolla. Do you remember that first day? You finally, like, saw that or felt a light? What was it like? I will never forget that day. Explain it. I was just lost.

I was a mess. And so we had just gotten married. I left all my family. Was he partying too? Yeah. Yeah. He was the one getting everything for me. Oh, shit.

He was a family. You were getting value from, like, the streets. Yeah. He was just getting. whatever he could get. Yeah, we didn't go to the doctors or anything back then. And I think I had done like maybe two Kualies in my life and good thing. What were those like? Wonderful. So I'm glad they, I'm so glad.

I heard those are pretty wild. Oh my gosh. Talking about just feeling like euphoric and stuff. But I'm glad they took them off the market. Yeah. Because he couldn't get him anymore. Yeah. It would be a real problem. So you talk about you finally like what, what did you feel like you're, why you're kind of just, um, just stopping your brain from thinking. Do you think you're sad about yourself or do you... At that point in my life, I had a really hard childhood. Yeah, what happened? My mom was married to several different men and they would come into our house and abuse us.

There were three girls, yeah. Abuse us and something really bad happened that changed my whole life when I was 13. Sorry, I get sometimes emotional talking about it. It's the worst thing that could have ever happened. I had been being abused and I told him, if you keep doing it, I'm going to tell my dad and the police. And the next day, it was Valentine's Eve. He said, can you come up to the room? My mom and him had been out drinking all day and went up there. And he goes, oh, I said, I wish you were dead, Keith. I just, you know, everything you've been doing to me. And I went in the room and he took a shotgun and blew his head off in front of me. Oh my God. So that was like a, that was my, That was my drinking when I started drinking and drinking drug.

So the trauma. I mean, trauma, you wanted to get that out of your head. I mean, at 13, I can't even imagine doing that to my granddaughter. No. So, like, how did you, then you just started snowballing, snowball, and then you had to. Was it hard? Jill, with that type of relation, I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, by the way. Thank you.

Yeah, I've had so much therapy. And with the Lord, I'm so good. I couldn't even think that. Yeah. She back. She back. Yeah. I'm bad.

She's doing good. That's, yeah, I don't even know. So I got to quit. That's very tough and that's like, that's, it's so, I'm so happy that you're, you saw the light now. I know, I'm so happy I'm alive. Yeah, I am too. I mean, you're, you are a spark plug.

Yeah. So I was wondering, was it hard for you to, with going through that abuse and was it hard for you to like, just trust anybody? Oh, yeah. No, I just, it's been hard. I had a hard life, a pretty hard life. My husband was so good to me, though. I mean, he treated me like a queen.

And it was too good for me. Was that the first man you committed to? No, I got married when I was 17 to get on my mom's house. I was when I was 17 and he was 24. Do you feel like you're doing that because you needed like a support blanket? It wasn't real love? And he was such a good person. He was from Holland.

I like the Dutch. The Dutch are nice. They're so nice. He was so nice. His family was so good to me. Why did you bail? out of that. Yeah, he was too good to me and I started dating other guys that were mean. It was just abusive and kind of sent the rest of it. It's so crazy how we fall in love with the things

that hurt us. The most, yeah. That was my whole life. Why do you think that is? I don't know. I feel like for me it was just, I had been so abused and we, you know, we'd gotten pretty much beat up by my dad too when we were in England. So we just had a, I just think I felt like that was my normal. I had to do that to feel good. And then you met this man? So then I left Fritz, was his name, B. Fritz, what a name. I know. That's so dumb. That's actually a cute name. Like a Dutch character in a movie. Yeah, and it was B. A. KK.K.R. Bacher. Oh, my God. And his mom and dad were Christians, and they were so good to me. So that was different. You kind of like started seeing the idea of Christianity. Yeah. No. During 17. Were you curious then?

Mm-hmm. I definitely was, but I was raised Catholic. Okay. And my father was very strict Catholic, but like he would take us to church in England, and when we got to Aurora, put me in a Catholic school, and was like with the Knights of Columbus, and he would drop his off and go cheat on my mom. I'm not kidding. So I'm thinking, I don't think I want this kind of God. Right, right, right, right.

Oh, because, like, you felt like it was fake. Yeah. And it's all like remorse. You could just, like, say, hey, I did that. Now I'm good. Yeah. And I think I was becoming extremely rebellious about that time, too. So I was like, I don't want God.

I don't want anybody like that in my life. And then I thought if God really was there, he would have never let me go through that. Yeah. But then how I am today, I wouldn't change any of that for how I feel about people and myself today. You know, it's kind of messed up to say, but maybe you having to deal with that made you appreciate life now and the vast beauty of. I agree. And five years ago, I was in a relationship where he beat me up and was going to shoot me. What? I was in, I had gone to rehab in Problo to get sober. And many times, like 14 times to try to get sober in my life. And I was dating a guy from rehab that was in the Army. We were together for a year. I lived with him for a year. And then I told him I was leaving too much drinking and it was getting crazy. And he beat me up for like 40 minutes just kicking me. He was like 6'4 and 200 some pounds.

Wow. I'm laying on the floor just going, oh, my God, I'm going to die tonight. And I jumped up when he went to get the gun and ran out of his house. The police got me and put me in a shelter. How many years ago was this? Five. Wow. Yeah.

And anyway, so it was the people I was attracted to. That was that, but he was literally going to kill me. He called the Aurora Police and said, I'm going to find her, shoot her, and then kill my style. Wow. They took me from the shelter that the police took me to after the hospital, put me in a safe house for a year and a half. Wow. And at that time, I said, I want to go back to Jesus. I want to get sober.

So I have five years of sobriety on September night. Let's go. We're back. And did he end up getting arrested? He went to someplace in Kansas. Oh, Leavenworth. Yeah. Oh, that's the real deal prison.

Two years, because I guess I wasn't the first woman he did that. Yeah, yeah. That's usually a pattern, huh? He was really good when I met him. Was he younger or older? He was younger. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

You make these men fall in love with you. Yeah. It's the hair. It's the hair and the smile. I mean, you got the whole thing going on right now. Do you regret anything? Yeah, I do. I regret sometimes how I raised my kids.

Yeah. I mean, I was a good mom, but with all my pain, and I didn't stay. I just couldn't see how. But they're great girls. They've never done drugs. alcohol, they're both Christians. Great. I couldn't have asked for a better kid.

So do you go to church every Sunday or go to every day? No, I do Women's Bible Study Wednesday night. I go to a few AA meetings that are Christian, the most excellent way, if you guys have heard of that. And then... What did you learn at AA? So when I went to AA in the world, with the world in the way that they would talk and say God's name and vain, all the time I wasn't, it wasn't good for me.

so I found another one. At that point, I was like, I don't think I want to be here with all that. And the one that I'm in my two groups, I'm in their women's groups, because I have a hard time talking to men still. You know, when I'm sharing really personal things, I have a hard time.

Well, thanks to her trusting us. She's talking to two men. Yeah. She thinks we're children. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I appreciate it. That's cute.

You guys are like my kids. I love it. Um, so yeah, tell me a little about me. I just, I really got, uh, I'm getting closer to God because it is Christian and I've met some wonderful women. Yeah. That are a big support for me, really good support. I think I'm just learning how to love myself again. That's the thing. We, I think like, we have it in us. We just forget sometimes. And I know, I have a problem with addiction too. I will not, I go through my spells of getting on and getting off it. And when I'm on it, it's because I don't love myself. Exactly. You're just going to beat yourself up. And I think it's almost a way of a slow committing suicide kind of a thing. Because you're just like, you drink and you do a drug and you think,

that could have had fentanyl in it, but who cares? Yeah. You know, if I go beer with God, I'm fine. So what advice would you give people who aren't loving themselves right now? I think, like, my first thing I would do is like I would, I feel like I'm very loving and I would sit there and I try, I like to nurture people and I love how God brought me here because I love older people. Yeah. I mean, I'm older too, but I love the older, older people and I get to help them.

And it was like totally my call. I thought it was always going to be with kids. Yeah. So for me, I think just loving them and nurturing them and inviting them to come to church with me. And I speak at a lot of women's battered shelters and had a few girls come to me, young girls, and say, you know, know, just break down in my arms, and I can talk about it now without hurting so much. Oh, yeah. And I feel like that was my purpose that God let me go through everything.

And the last thing where I was in a shelter and just like the lowest place on earth, he got my attention because no, I went to Betty Ford, got my nails, didn't my hair done every day, so that was a joke. Yeah. It wasn't going to get me sober, you know. Really? Wow, that's really upscale. And other nice places.

And he took me to a shelter to get my. my attention and I was so broken. Yeah. I finally just let it all go. Yeah. And I'm doing wonderful today. Oh my God. I'm clapping.

I'm clapping all day for you. Unbelievable. Well, thank, yeah, thank you so much. Nick, you have any questions? I don't know what I can ask on this. I think. Well, let me think. I have, because I don't want to ask you too much about your past anymore, so I know

them. We know the past now. Yeah. If you could teach one thing to young people that they don't realize, what do you think it would be? In today's world, the way the children are going, I see it with my granddaughter. They're so mean to each other. I think just how to love. I mean, to love again.

You know, like back when I was growing up, there were very many loving people that God put in my life. And I don't think I would have survived without them. But to love themselves. And that's what I do with my three grandda. and God gave me all daughters, all girls. Oh, really? One little grandson, but, yeah. Like four sisters and, yeah.

And my two daughters, my three granddaughters now. And I really feel like it's to nurture and love them and let them see that they're in God's image. And they are worth everything. Wow. And they're beautiful. Because you feel bad about how you raised your daughters, do you take, do you spoil your granddaughter, your grandson? Oh, my gosh.

Like, you have no idea? Yeah. like that. My mom, my daughter, grandchildren, like, where's grandma? I love that. I spent a lot of time. Did they live here in Denver? Uh-huh. In Parker. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, just on the road, yeah. Yeah, they built a beautiful home out in Parker way out east. That's great. That's cool. That's cool. And you can, yeah, no kidding. I don't know what I would do that too. They come visit you? I see them almost every day. Every day? Almost every day. I'm not kidding. And I will pack up and go stay with them for four or five days. I don't ever go over there for a night. I take an Uber.

stay with them for days the kids won't let me go. I love it. And I love my grandchildren. And they're all Christians too. The older one's a little stinker. She's having a hard time, but she's 13. Well, that's a phase.

Well, you know, if anyone could tell her about hard times, his grandma. I know. I mean, and the other night, though, she was doing something and she was rebelling against her mother. And for some reason, she said, I'm to go do it anyway.

And I go, do what? Go get pills? Or, you know, it freaks me out about the fed. She goes, I am not like you, grandma. I'm like, Elena, but it didn't hurt me. I said, you're right. And I don't want you to ever be like grandma was. But my daughter's turned out, and she said, Tiffany goes,

we forgave you. And we don't drink or do drugs because of you. That's cool. So if I did, that's why I said, if I had to go see that shelter, all over again, I would totally do it to be where I'm at. You carried it so they didn't have to. Yeah. Yeah.

And they are so love. My daughter is like, I think the best mom on the planet because they go to, you know, Bible studies for children all week and stuff. And they're just being raised, right? They have a lot of love. Like, I look at them and I, like, envious. I'm like, I wish I could have been, but then that's not my life, right? You're the reason they're being raised that way, too. Yeah.

Yeah. Besides of that. I'm so sorry about your past, but I'm so happy you found the light and you're taking ass out there. So thank you so much for talking with us. You're welcome. Diamond in the rough. Are you related to an eel? Here we go.

To which I say yes. Hello. Hello. What is your name? Tim Diamond. And how old are you, Tim? I am looking at 80. Wow, you look fantastic.

Like I told, I'm aging like a prune over here. I'm 38 just not looking good at this day. 80 going on 40. I'm originally from upstate New York. Oh, part. Syracuse. Oh, cool. Syracuse.

Love it there. Yeah. What a summer? Been all over. Yeah. Ended up at Kavode. Yeah. What was your dream job when you were a kid?

Oh, let's see. I was going to study to be a priest in the Catholic religion. Oh. And then I met some professors, I guess. And then I wanted to be a professor. Nice. Which I did. What did you?

What? I taught so. sociology. Okay. All over the U.S. And Canada. Where was your favorite place to teach? Oh, maybe Victoria, British Columbia.

Why? Probably. Beautiful. Oh, yeah. You ever been there? No. Oh, glorious. I've been to Seattle, but not there, yeah.

Yeah, no. I mean, it rains all the time in Seattle. It never rains in Victoria. Across the water. Yeah, gorgeous, beautiful flowers and nice people. What was your favorite, like college you ever taught at? I beg your pardon? Like, what school was your favorite?

favorite to teach at, like. University of Toronto, probably, yeah. I was, yeah. But I've probably taught in a dozen different schools. It must have a big deal. That's a really good school. They started in Cal State, Los Angeles. Oh.

And we were just talking about. Yeah. See, I went to C-San for a second. Then I went to S-F State, you know. Okay. And Northridge. Big difference is in the schools. Where did you go first?

C-Sysun. What's it? Cal State, Northridge. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. That's right. I grew up. During the earthquake?

Yep. I remember it very well. No, me too. Me too. Yeah. Dear. And then there's today with all the fires. Yeah.

It's very serious. So what's your philosophy on how to teach someone something? For them to learn. Yeah. To start with themselves always, you know, and it's remarkable what you can do when you do that. When you're not trying to convey a piece of information, you're trying to make their life integrated with something. else. Like, for example, I'm writing a book now on health insurance, which is a dastardly topic. In fact, I'd have to be happy to talk about it if you'd like today regarding the aging,

you know, population who suffers from the terrible health care system that we have. That's what I'm saying. They're forgetting about the elderly. Really, you know, it's so true, so expensive, so inaccessible, you know. What's your take on it? But I start with the right to health care for everybody from cradle to grave. Yeah. You know, as I did experience in Canada and some other countries. And in fact, I'm the luckiest person on the face of the earth because right now I have mine through the veterans.

Great. Oh, VA. This is a great system. Is it? It doesn't qualify. I mean, not everyone qualifies for it. but those who do it's a great

you know it's a great organization have you ever had any health scares health scares so many yeah yes yeah right so I have stents oh so I have had heart attacks wow you know I once I once went to the hospital

and took three buses to get there and then because I as a man I had you know must have been muscle I guess I don't know I must have lifted something and they said you, fellow, you're going to the emergency room immediately. Really? You know, or I should say the ICU.

Oh, my God. But then within the same day, they put three stents in because I was, you know, that far away from gone. So lucky. With being that far away from gone, let's say, what did you learn about how precious life was? Don't take the bus. That would be one. Amazing. Better to call a cab, I think, or an ambulance or something like that.

And don't be a man. This is a fundamental problem. Oh, it's just a muscle. You know, I must have lifted something, you know. Amazing how we as a species can deny things, eh? Yeah, yeah. What's your favorite mistake you ever made? Favorite mistake I ever made.

Boy, that's a great question. I'm sorry. Should we pass that? Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, think about that. Your interview. Who is your hero when you're a kid? Well, I suppose the Lone Ranger.

Yeah. What do you like about him? Well, it wasn't, I guess, until late in life that I realized that he was never alone. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even realize that. Tonto must have been an asshole. Yeah, yeah.

I just want to be alone from this guy. Speaks volumes, though, doesn't it? You know, remarkable how, you know, the... What made you want to be a priest? Well, I was raised in an Irish Catholic ghetto, and I figured that I could be a doctor or a lawyer or an Indian chief, and I chose the Indian chief. That's hilarious.

Because I couldn't get the other two. So that would be... Now, that's kind of a flippant answer, but, you know, I was really mainline religion there growing up. And there were a lot of questions that I had and still have. Like what? You know, like, what is this story here? The Christian story, as the years have gone on, it becomes kind of a weird one. Yeah, yeah.

You know. You keep reading these stories and over-analyzing them and over-analizing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Weirder and nuttier, right? Sure. And then they tell the same story multiple different ways in the same book, too. Truly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I grew up Catholic as well, so I kind of parallel there, yeah, yeah, yeah. So a recent New Yorker article was on St. Paul, who we assumed, you know, Paul to the Ephesians and Paul and Paul. Pope, he never met Jesus. No. He was 50 years later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so true. Yeah.

Time is relative. Very good, very good. Yeah. Yeah. What is most... I did want to say... Oh, go ahead. No.

Go first. Yeah. I did want to say what an interesting day you've chosen to be here at Cabode. Yeah. Well, it's the third Wednesday of the month. That's a big, big day for Social Security recipients. Oh, it is? Go up one side and down the other and you'll find oldies all over the casinos.

Oh, really? All over the groceries. Yeah, we should get over. All over the grocery stores. The first and second Wednesdays? Well, it's not everybody, but for me it is. And for the third Wednesday of the month is Social Security Day. Celebrate good times.

Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. King for a day. I love it. Not tomorrow, but today. Let's talk about that. What's the importance of money?

Do you wish you save some more when you're young? or do you well let's just stay with the topic I think the the social security certainly one of the best things ever happened to the United States you know so we FDR yeah so we go back to Franklin and Eleanor yeah who had a lot to do with it and you know to this day to this place you know you could ask where would it be without Social Security and it wouldn't be what it is no because it's you know it's hard so I mean it could be could be better there It could be more.

Do you think they'll ever try to take it away from people? These days, you hold on to your wallet. Yeah. You know, wherever you go. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. I think about it when, you know, when I turn 80, I'm like, I don't even know if there's going to be Social Security.

Oh, yeah. Well, we got to fight for it. Yeah. You know, and got to improve it. In fact, even as it is, it's great for those who get it. But, you know, it has these rules, which I'd like to see abandoned. I mean, you have to. to work 10 years and wage work, you know, in order to qualify for.

So that's a strict criterion for all those people, like this place is loaded with women who were homemakers, you know, and they didn't, they don't count. They didn't qualify. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. Yeah, it's crazy. You know, it's really. It's kind of funny because it's kind of like health care too, though.

It's truly. It's like you're canceling people off Medicaid and stuff. You're right. It just added nowhere. That's right. My mom got canceled off. Yeah. It's also an irony because the very people trying to take it away from these women are the people who are saying women should be in the home.

Yeah, exactly right. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they're creating their own enemy. Another thing about Kvod, which is fabulous, except within limits like this conversation. So, for example, now right now, the people who qualify, pay only one third of their income in rent.

Oh, wow. Now, isn't that a wonderful idea? Yeah. Don't you think that should be widespread everywhere? Yeah, if people paid one third of their income and rent, our country. That should be everyone's life. Exactly right.

This is like people can't afford even buy houses, can't afford renting? No, no, no, right, you know. I was going to move to New York and I looked at the Lower East side. Uh-huh. Nope. No. $5,000 a month from a bedroom. Oh, my God.

And when you think about- And you're renting it. Yeah, yeah. And when you think about the Lower East Side for crying out loud, how many years ago was it when immigrant, you know, many, many Jewish immigrants,

all kinds of immigrants went there because they could. Yes. You know, and then, this business of ancestry is fascinating me more and more and more because it was a brief time. You know, how many, I was recently in Ireland and got really enthralled on Irish and

enthralled with the, with the famine, terrible thing. Oh, the potato family, like 1800s. 1850s, 1840s, you know, not that long ago. No, not really. This is astonishing. Like we said, time is relative. Oh, this is it. Exactly right. Yeah, yeah. So what is something that you think people massively underestimate today? The fate of the Earth. Yeah. Certainly. I mean,

or as they say, the earth will survive. You know, the question is whether the humans are going to be able to survive on it. Yeah. So, you know,

we lament Los Angeles at the moment, but it's an harbinger of the future, too, you know? I mean, yeah, so I would say, certainly, if the word is climate,

Yeah, and also they're forcing people to live, like, L.A. is a desert. It wasn't supposed to be livable. No, no, right. You're funneling water in from the Colorado River. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Now you think about this year in Colorado where we didn't get a lot of water. Yeah. We're going to cut what's going to happen. Yeah, right. I'm making movies there anymore. Yeah, exactly. So I would say certainly, you know, the client, client, but if that's the word, you know, somebody, I was just reading not long ago. somebody said we should stop using even the word drought. I can't remember the argument. It was something like because drought implies that there's going to be rain or there was rain. Some, you know, desertification or something like that is the word, you know.

Dry as hell. And then, yeah, and then short of that, I would say, in this country, I would say health care is a huge problem because it's not unrelated. You know, I was thinking today, for example, I saw some, you know, Los Angeles clips in the, People are coughing and, you know, it's just, and people have nothing to do with the fires. They can't breathe. Right. You know, and they're going to need health care. Right.

So to divide up a society between those who can get it and those who can't is obscene. I know. You know, that's a, well, they're trying, I don't know. It's sounding morbid right now, but I think they're just trying to. It is morbid, though. Yeah, they're trying to get rid of people. It is morbid, really. They're trying to get rid of people.

Jesus. Creakers. And I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah. I mean, we're all humans. They help build this society to what it is. There you go. There you go.

So why are you trying? No. So you could just bring more young people in and don't know what they're doing. Yeah. You need to learn from the... By the way, you're doing a great job. The podcast is terrific. Oh, you listen.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's sort of dedicated to turning that around. Yeah, yeah. Really, yeah. I have a question. Who's your... If you could go back and relive one day of your life over again,

What day would you pick? If I could live it over again. Experience it at least. Experience it again. That's beautiful. When I was in high school, that's good. I'm not that dumb.

I was called on to give a speech to about 300 people. And it was an absolute turning point in my life, because I did it well. I mean, I'd memorize it. Thanks to the nuns, everything like that. And then I went on living the rest of my life, giving speeches. You know, I mean, and I knew I could do that. As a professor, for example, or talk and the like, or even here now.

You were asking me, I kind of like microphones. Yeah, you're good at it. Once you get used to them. It's always the first second. Then you feel like, oh, yeah, this isn't that scary. No, no, no, no, right. Just a conversation. Yeah.

That's right. That's right. Yeah. What do you think a conversation people should be having? Climate change. What else? Well, I would like to see more political unanimity among old people. I did go through a period where there was what they called the Grey Panthers.

That's some decades ago, but they were great. Did you ever hear of them? No. Oh, yeah. Headed up by a woman who was about 90 called Megan. Giacoon. Oh, yeah. And they, you know, they gathered around.

And their agenda was not about old people. It was about young people. Yeah. You know. And we need to gather around and look at the future that these poor young people are having to face and reject it. That would be, I can't remember what your question was, but something like that. Yeah.

I mean, that's basically why we're here today. Yeah. I mean, people take time for granted. Yeah. We don't want, yeah. We want young people to understand that we don't. don't have them much time here. No. And then maybe in turn they could get, you know, politically mobilized. One of the things that brings tears to my eyes is student debt.

That's insane. Where in that? I totally agree. Where did that come from? My generation went to school for free. I'm sorry. I don't have. Even college? I have to whisper it because, you know, you can't, you can't just spout it out. They might be a guy working in the hallway. Oh, exactly right. with $30,000 in debt or something like that. I can't understand people who want to be doctors, and before they're even a doctor, they have $200,000 in debt. And they're trying to help people.

They're trying to help people. Yeah, right, of course, yeah, yeah. And what did you pay for CSU? $800 a semester. Exactly right. Yeah, yeah. Now it's more. Even the state schools.

Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, I would say, because I was, in fact, that generally is something that would be, you know, It's not just young people who are in debt. The whole operation is driven by debt. More by the day.

Where do we get $5 a gallon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Yeah, exactly. Where's the revolution? Yeah, exactly. The revolution will not be televised. No, but it'll be on your podcast.

It'll be on your podcast. Thank you. Okay. I've got one last question for you. Yeah, indeed. Any regrets in your life that you wish you could do? Over? Many.

Regrets, I have a few. But then again, too few to mention. Mention. I would say I would like to have been multilingual. You know, I had... That would be awesome. Yeah, I mean, anything. I don't speak really anything.

I taught Los Angeles, and, you know, I didn't know Spanish, and I'm calling the role. And it's Jesus here, you know. Oh, Jesus. Oh, it's Jesus. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, no. And so I ought to have learned Spanish. I almost married a woman from France.

Yeah. And ought to have learned French. And now I'm studying Russian. Really? Yeah, there's a lot of Russians in here, right? Yeah, a lot of Russians. I know some of the signs are in Russian. Fascinating story.

It's a hard language. Oh, extremely. I'm moving, you know, very slow. So that would say I'd like to be multilingual, yeah. Well, thank you so much for your time. Well, that's great. We should go on, clearly. You got to do this again.

We're doing it next month. Come back every month. Oh, good. Do it. Yeah. Let's keep going deeper. Great. Okay.

Cheers. Yeah. Thank you so much.