Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Wolves of Glendale on Opening for Tenacious D, Comedy Music, and Going Viral

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

Andy Frasco sits down with Wolves of Glendale for a wildly honest, hilarious, and surprisingly deep conversation about comedy music, blowing up online, and saying "yes" when the universe nudges you. T...hey break down how Wolves of Glendale went from Berklee kids and side projects to opening for Tenacious D, selling out shows, and building a massive fanbase. You'll hear how comedy and musicianship collided to create something real, plus why testing songs live, embracing failure, and trusting your gut still beats "posting at the right time." The crew also dives into Iron Songwriter, their new time-crunch songwriting series that turns movie lines into full songs in under an hour. If you're a musician, comedian, creator, or just someone trying to figure out how the hell anything works anymore, stick around.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What was the first tune you guys wrote together? First tune was Red Panda. That's correct. I believe. Which was a song, just a fun song about how red pandas are cool as hell and more people should know about them. I love a simple premise. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Attention to that. Wow. She broke up with someone? I don't know. And we're live. Andy Frasco's World City Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's your head?
Starting point is 00:00:25 How's your mind? Yo, I fucking love being on my phone. It's the best. It's so much better than people. God, I could deliver. literally like watch. Everyone's like, oh, it's a poison. It's a poison. Yeah, poison's great. Alcohol's a poison. Amazing. Weed, poison. Great. I watch people with Downsardium for four hours. Oh, they're the best people on Earth. They're the nicest, sweetest. I love them. I love it. I'll watch people eat food. I'll watch people.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Gold retrievers. I'll watch gold retrievers. God, why does this get such a bad rap? I get like, I get like, I get like, I have like a very wholesome. Yeah, what's your real? What's your real? I don't really ever get like. Like, look at this Chiwala. It's just in a it's in a bathtub. Yeah, I got some drug jokes, some dogs. God. How you doing, Nick? Mom Downey. We got wolves of Glendale tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Norm MacDonald. Keep going. Keep going. Our producer Jack's like, this is the dumbest bit ever. But it's not a bit. We really love our phone. People love dumb bits, actually. We just got a new computer. We're hyped up about it. We're just jacked up. We got wolves of Glendale on this show tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Those guys are fucking hilarious. The great thing about this episode is we have all the video episode. We have all the video for it too. It's going to be awesome. Jack crushed it on this one, man. Zach crushed it on this one. He just totally...
Starting point is 00:01:43 Whenever he messes up, let's call him Zach. Yeah, every time Jack messes up. Zach, we were in a bundle, we were in a... It kind of wasn't his fault, though. It wasn't because we bought this new Mac Mini. Kermudgeon, not the word, by the way. What's the word? Curmugin's like an old man that's like mad.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Carmugin's like what you think I am. Yeah, you're a little bit of crumogy. I was crumagy last night. I like stuff. What are you talking about? You're like, you're okay. You look weird. Even in Cooney were both kind of just like, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But I think you were just tired. I was tired. I don't think I'm a cremuchin, by the way. I think I'm just calm so people think I don't like stuff. Yeah. I like stuff. You can't, you can't. A cremogen is like what other people think you are, not what you think a crumogen is.
Starting point is 00:02:29 What? That's not. Anyway, shout out to Amazon. For hook us up for 300. Shout out to Amazon. For laying off my brother. Oh, yeah, fuck Amazon. Dude.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And they laid off my brother. I wonder how many people do that and just scam Amazon. I think it's probably an industry. It's got to be an industry. They probably have like 100 accounts and they're like, they probably buy like a really fancy computer so it doesn't work. And they're like, yeah, just keep it. What's drop shipping?
Starting point is 00:02:56 Isn't that kind of an Amazon scam? You're like, what's drop shipping? Like buy stuff? I don't know. When you don't have inventory. Yeah, you just kind of like, you're middleman, basically. You're a middleman, basically. Basically, everything in America is just middle-lating better products.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Wow. Well, we have Wolves of Glendale, and it was awesome. They talked about how they blew up on the internet. They're a comedy music group. If you don't know who they are, they're really big. They're like becoming like the new tenacious D. Yeah, they are. They're funny.
Starting point is 00:03:26 They got a great new show on YouTube. Nice guys. Hands. And they, you know, they're like, you know, they. they blew up online with these, they're Berkeley kids, and they didn't have anything bad to say about Berkeley. I know. You want to hate Berkeley so bad.
Starting point is 00:03:40 What started that for you? What, Berkeley, hating Berkeley? Because there's way more potential schools than Berkeley. I mean, they get into it in the interview, actually. But I just, every band that came out of Berkeley kind of puts their fucking nose up a little bit. Isn't every band kind of do that, period? Any band that went to music school a little bit. Well, if you had those student loans, you probably would, too.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Dude, I think about the musical kids who don't make any money and Trump is going to take their paycheck. How are they going to take? Did you hear about this? So starting January 10th or something or January 11th, Trump is going into your digital account, and he's going to take money out of your paycheck. I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't think that's legal. Oh, yeah, it's Trump. I think that's going to, is that what's going to happen, Jack? I don't, you mean, they can garnish your wages. They can't just like garnish their wages. A little garnish, little default. For people default, they're like, ah. A little garnish a little parsley.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Everyone, Mrs. Biden now old sleepy Joe. Oh, man. He was sleepy, but he did take care of the kids who didn't want to pay their consulates. I would kill for a guy who can't talk is asleep all the time right now to be in charge. Oh my God. I'd literally watch him on Instagram Reels, just sleeping. He has cancer now. No, he does.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah, he's got prostate. Yeah. I think he might survive it, though, actually. I got to start coming more. So I don't get prostate. That's a thing. You have to come like 21 times a month. Guys, this goes out to all the dudes for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Start coming a lot. Jerk off is shit ton. Girls, we know you're not coming, so. Yeah, girls aren't coming. Your boyfriends aren't making you come. That's a wash. That's a wash. So girls, too.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Everyone come. This is 2026, the year of coming. Porn has completely destroyed the male brain and they can no longer make women come. You know, I gotta tell you something. I stopped watching porn. Mm-hmm. And I've, my sex drive has gone up again.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah. That's crazy. No, it's not. It's actually very basic human biology. It's the least crazy thing about porn you could possibly say, I think. Also like, you're turning me into curmudgeon. You know what else? I learned, I was talking about my libido.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah? Is that your new car? No, how my libido was I wasn't, shut the fuck up. Why am I so funny? Go ahead, go ahead, sorry. You know, like I was saying, my sex story, I was down. I went to the doctor yesterday, and I said, because of the high blood pressure.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And now my blood pressure is lower and my libido's back. Yeah, because you can pump blood to your cock better. I thought it was the cocaine, but it wasn't. Well, cocaine is not as great for your blood pressure. Well, I didn't know, but I tested it. I did cocaine and then had sex. And it worked. It's so works, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It was sick. So shout out. Yeah. I got low blood pressure now, people. I'm back. You don't want to be too low. I felt like such an idiot. My fucking...
Starting point is 00:06:35 Are we going too long? Whatever. Oh, fucking, who cares? It's our podcast. I went to the... I felt like such an idiot. 37-year-old and the nurse sat me down and said, this is what you need to eat.
Starting point is 00:06:48 These are called vegetables. I love vegetables. This is called... These are the meats you need to eat. I really... And I was so fascinated. Like, lean meats. Don't eat red meats.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Like red meat should be like... once a week a treat for you. Mm-hmm. She said, no white bread. Oh. I fucking love white bread. No holla? No.
Starting point is 00:07:07 No. No. Oh. That's stupid. It's crazy how much I know. Yeah. Just from it. It's also old stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:13 They also said, um... Not even on leavened bread? Yeah. They also said no cheese. I don't eat cheese. I think that's really good. Maybe that's why I love a salty cheese. They said no sodium.
Starting point is 00:07:26 The sodium, the booze. I didn't. I have been smoking less. Yeah, I've noticed that. That's been helping my blood pressure. And also... We're going to eat cigarettes later, though, huh? I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, probably. I mean, it's Friday night. We've got to fucking get after it. Friday night. I love that it's Friday night, and we're just going to decide to watch football at our house. It'll be more fun than going out. It sounds awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Football. I'm so excited. I feel like I'm at that point where I feel more comfortable now just chilling a house. I don't need to go outside. That's what I... I think that's why I was bummed out. I'm like, I didn't really want to go out. It was fun, though.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Because we were hanging. It was our first really, it was a good hang, and we were like, it wasn't a bunch of overwhelming, annoying people there. Yeah. Then we went to Lary's,
Starting point is 00:08:09 and that got kind of weird. That's when I got started checking out of Laries. Yeah. I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I was fun because it was like, I was low in there.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It was slow, slow, chill. Speaking of Y'all Club, you're not going to go to Stanley Jordan later later, later? No, I mean, I don't think it's your bag.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I've played with him before. Oh, who is he? He's like a guitar genius. Oh, I thought he was a sax player. No, no, no, he's like. What Stanley, am I thinking that's a sax player? Oh, Stan Gats, but he died 40 years ago. Oh, man, rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You'd like Stan Gets, actually. You'd like him more than Stanley Jordan. Yeah. He's like speaks to your soul. It's got a very, his tone. It's rich and calm. So, oh, this is just like fucking guitar players just stroking each other off.
Starting point is 00:08:51 He'll play like two guitars at the same time. No, that sounds. sounds a knox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He taps and... He's just like, everybody. Now everyone's solo. It might be she, actually.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I don't actually remember. There's something... He's playing dazzle. He or she. He or she. He's a jazz. But they do, what they do is they go and they do like a bunch of shows, and they do like six shows in three days, and they all sell out.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh, wow. Probably do a clinic while you're in town and like, you know what I mean? That jazz world, they're like, it's like that. You call me Jewish. They're taking every penny they can out of these cities. They have to. So anyway, shout out to Amazon. Shout out to Apple for being such nice to us.
Starting point is 00:09:30 They're kind of the devil. Apple's better than Amazon, though. No, they fuck with their phones, so everyone has to get any phones every year. But they have Apple TV to bounce that out, which is the best streaming service. Apple TV rules. Every show they make.
Starting point is 00:09:42 The worst shows are still deece, and they don't have ads during their shows. So what we want to do today? You don't want to put the game on the background, just look at our phones for a couple hours? My God, yes. Enjoy Wolves of Glendale. This is a call to action.
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Starting point is 00:10:38 All right, bye. All right, here we are. You all ready for this? Just get... Luckily, these guys are chill as fuck. Wolves of Glendale. How we do? boys.
Starting point is 00:10:56 What's up? Really good. How are you, man? You know, I have this theory that anyone who is close to Todd Glass is actually really fucking chill. Yep. That's a proven theory. Give us. I was going to say it.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Give us your one Todd Glass story that you'll remember for the rest of your life. We can't. You can't an heir can to this better than I can because I don't really know him that well. Even an Eric, I've known him for a long time. Yeah, we've known talks since we first. Oh, dude. We got to
Starting point is 00:11:24 We got to get one of those. Damn it. That's fun. What the fuck? That's cool. I'll send you the follow. Well, let's talk about it. We can talk about Todd.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I just, I always, Todd's one of my close friends and he knows, I know how much he loves you guys. So it makes me so proud that we're all, you know, mentors of that crazy fucking guy named Todd Glass. So we'll talk about Todd later.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I want to talk about Berkeley. Who went to Berkeley? Raise your hand. Also, even an Eric. Oh, my. My man is just out. What am I doing here?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Maybe I'll head out. Can you go get some coffees? Yeah, you guys thirsty? Guys, before we get into the man who's from South Florida, you're from South Florida, right, bud? That's the two of us. Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm fucking the whole one. Are you up?
Starting point is 00:12:13 No, no, you're right. No, you're doing great, actually. It's bull's eyes. Tell me about, you know, Berkeley kids are kind of pretentious, and you guys seem cool and funny and sweet. Do people, were the Berkeley kids like looking at you weirdly because he wanted to make comedy music or was that the mission in Berkeley before? Give me a little bit of your briefing of your time in Berkeley. I could answer this, but I'd actually rather hear Eric's answer for this. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Just for my own entertainment. Interesting pivot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, first of all, comedy music wasn't really the goal for the two of us. when we were at Berkeley, we were like, probably one of the pretentious kids that went to Berkeley that were like,
Starting point is 00:12:57 we're going to be the next muse. We are going to be in the hardest rocking band of all time, and we're going to be with a bunch of shredders, and it's like, where else are you going to get cool band members? Berkeley, who are great. You keep telling the story. There's someone out of door, but this is a good time for me to leave because I'm not involved.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That's true. It actually worked out. I wonder who that is. Did you guys send somebody here? Yeah, Todd. Todd's coming. Oh, I wish Todd was coming. Oh, he's probably asking him to someone to move his car. So we went to Berkeley and we sort of fell into comedy music at Berkeley.
Starting point is 00:13:36 So we were, Ethan and I were in a band called Fox Trot. Yes. We were in a band with a bunch of killers, Andrew Sarlow, the producer of Big Thief. And everything that has basically been good the last 10 years. An absolute genius. Sarlow is the king. He was our bass player, our buddy, Shawnee Moose, played guitar. All right, thank you, Tom. You're a sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Tom is moving my car right now. Tom is such a goat, dude. I like that guy. He's got it up. No, he's the goat and the valet. Tom's fully goaded. But yeah, to finish, if I may, we started making comedy songs to promote our hard rock band's shows. And those kind of got more traction or more people were talking about those
Starting point is 00:14:16 than the actual, like, serious music we were making from our heart and soul. Yeah. And so as we left Berkeley, I think that's when we were more like, oh, maybe this is the path. But yeah, I mean, Berkeley was super fun. I think we learned a lot and we were around insanely creative, gifted people. But I think we were also outsiders and kind of like doing our own weird thing.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah. So. And as far as pretension goes, I would say Berkeley is the least pretentious of the music schools. Oh, okay. Hot take. Like Juilliard, NEC, USC, USC. MCLA. Manhattan School music.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think they all have an opinion of like what good music should be. Yeah. And whenever something rubs up against that, whether it's jazz or whether it's like a certain type of rock or I feel like yacht rock is also like the gold standard for a lot of like music schools.
Starting point is 00:15:07 And so I think Berkeley was actually like, I had homework where I had to listen to the chili peppers. Yeah. One time. I was like, oh, this is sick. Why do you think it's less pretentious? Because no one graduates. They just get what they get from it.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah, I mean, honestly, that could be part of it is that people are hoping to leave school. So it's not like they have like the biggest school pride, probably, or take it. Yeah. Super serious. It's like the goal is like, I got to leave. I'm doing too much cool stuff. I'm so successful. Yeah, or like, the joke was like if you graduated, you failed.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Right, right. Because you didn't get a, you know, a record deal or something. But if Berkeley's listening and they want us to come and, you know, give a talk about how to write songs about a guy who vapes and eats people, like, we're down for that. Or forgive our students. loans? Oh my god, Berkeley. Come on in. They ain't going to do that. It's how a Trumpie's going to take it out of your paycheck these days. I couldn't believe that shit. I heard on the news
Starting point is 00:15:55 that starting this year they're going to take it out of your paycheck without fucking... It's bullshit. I don't know. I think everything that's going on is good and cool and I have no complaints and I feel like, yeah, I just think things are good and I'm hopeful for the future for sure. Our guy won. Get over it. Yeah. Do you think...
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm phone for him again. Do you think... Do you think... What was you feeling like when you realized your comedy stuff was getting more plugged than your actual rock stuff. At first, what was it at first setting? Were you pissed off?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Or was like, hey, whatever works works? Or like, it was like kind of like. No, we were thrilled and we were already doing it anyways. You know, it's like we were making stupid videos and stupid songs and stuff. And it wasn't, you know, an A to B. I'm kind of like shrinking together other years of working awful jobs and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But it's like over time, I think we just realized we can take comedy seriously and that's okay and not just be the next radio head or whatever and a lot of people's like and a lot of people's like pipe dream this will never work out thing is music so for us we were like well
Starting point is 00:17:01 we've been professional musicians since we were 13 and always doing music so like that's our goal and that's our dream we were like we could never do comedy that would be someone else that's like the real dream job that like is a pipe dream so the fact that like that sort of worked out in our favor because we had spent all these years
Starting point is 00:17:17 getting good at music. And now people were like, oh, that's actually your comedy music superpower. We were like, oh, shit. We actually kind of set ourselves up perfectly for this actual dream job. Yeah, it's like even more fun. So when did you, so things are starting to pop off.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Were you called the Cooties back then? Or was it, what was that? We were. That was our first comedy band. That's correct. Which is a good, by the way, segue, if you're trying to get there to Tom. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:41 If you get to talk to Tom. He had to fucking do a parking. What's up Tom? Welcome to show, Big Dog. Valet, Tom. Ballet Tom, Tom, Tom. Valet Tom. Valet Tom.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Are you going to tip him on Vembo? You hit me up. You'll be there in 20 minutes to move your car. Make sure you tip. So tell us, Tom. So how did you guys meet these guys? So speaking of the Cooties, someone tagged a Cootie song. And one of my songs, I was making solo musical comedy stuff in New York for four or so years before I found the Kuwaiter.
Starting point is 00:18:15 They tagged a cootie song in one of my songs in a Spotify wrapped. And then I found the cooties and I was blown away by their musicianship and it's rare that you find someone in comedy music that can actually play. Concord's Tenacious D. Bo Burnham or like the only other three acts that I can think of easily beyond the cooties that were like, oh my God, these are like great tunes. They're well written songs that are fucking so dumb. and right away I DMed both of them and I was just like hey man I love what you guys are doing I think it's really rare in the musical comedy space I'm trying to do the same thing if you ever want to grab a coffee
Starting point is 00:18:54 in L.A. I was living in South Florida at the time ironically during the pandemic and then fast forward to October 2021 I end up moving out and I land five minutes down the road in Glendale from Ethan I saw 13 apartments and the 13th was in Glendale and we were already in touch yeah yeah we hung out a few times I came out for a job the May before that for about a week or two, and we hung out, wrote a tune together, Fast Friends. What was the first tune you guys wrote together?
Starting point is 00:19:24 First tune was Red Panda, I believe, which was a song, just a fun song about how Red Pandas are cool as hell and more people should know about them. I love a simple premise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. And it kind of sounded like drinking problem for when I remember. That was like the reference, which by Midlands, a great song. Oh, that's a great song, actually.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah, but then so, yeah, I mean, I at the same time, the cooties were ending, and Eric and I actually made the decision, like, we're never making a comedy band again. We're out. It's too hard. So what happened? We did it for five years. What was the downfall? Like, on that year five, what were you guys feeling? It was just tough.
Starting point is 00:20:01 It was just a lot of work, and we were, I think, doing a lot of work outside of the band to just survive. And it just felt like, you know, we got to do other stuff. We wanted to, you know, write scripts and direct and act. and we were just like, we're going to do other things. And then literally like three weeks later, I started hanging out with Tom. And I was like, we should probably get Eric in here. And so I hit up Eric. And I was like, I know we just said never a comedy band again.
Starting point is 00:20:27 But I think comedy band, because Tom actually is good at comedy band and wants to make comedy band. Yeah. So when Tom came to the mix, I believe in fate like that. When life is kind of like pushing you, there's always that one thing that if you say yes, to it, it might take you on into a completely different path. Maybe that was Tom for your friendship. Dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:51 The story of our band, I think, is all serendipity. And I fully believe in like little decisions that can like shape the course of what you're doing. I love the crunchy shit. And there are so many twists and turns that this band has taken that are like, the stars had to be perfectly aligned for this shit to work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And it continues. to pan out that way. To trace back retroactively all the little things that have led to this moment is really fun and pretty wild. Yeah, and fortuitous in the sense that like when the three of us got together, we wrote vaping in Vegas the first day, like in the first hour. And we were like, oh, my God. Like, not only do we have this like very similar musical taste, but we have like pretty
Starting point is 00:21:38 much the exact same comedy tastes. like it has to like work on so many levels for three people in their three people in their 30s to start a band and for it to like work and two guys kind of bitter two guys kind of bitter at that point to actually open like the fucking
Starting point is 00:21:56 the vessel I mean another comedy band yeah that's very fascinating think about if you would have just called Tom a groupie and hung up on him you know and didn't say hey that could have changed the path to something else you know but like
Starting point is 00:22:09 it was also because We were fans of Tom and very much respected what he was doing. You know, there was a mutual admiration there for sure. So Tom, tell me about your past life before this. Yeah, I thought I was going to be a theater kid. I went to theater school and then I moved to New York to pursue musical theater stuff. And after a full year of auditioning, I realized that I kind of sucked at it. I don't really have the voice for it.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I can't dance. Great dancer, by the way. That's just he's being modest. I believe you. Yeah, good at dancing. He has the elegance of a ballet dancer. Right, yeah, like Fred Astaire and his prime, if he was an idiot. And after a year, I literally, like, didn't book a single job, and I was feeling depressed in New York, and I just decided to start making...
Starting point is 00:22:57 It was when Snapchat was still kind of popular. It was, like, 2016, and I was making sketches that I would share on Facebook, and now I'm really fucking dating the time. And all of my friends immediately were like, dude, this is... is funny. You should do more of these things. And I felt fulfilled in a way that the theater stuff had not brought to me at that point. And I kept doing it and very naturally, because music has always been a huge part of my life. When I was in New York, I was working as a dueling piano players, just playing cover gigs. And I grew up playing covers. So musical comedy felt like a very natural crossroads, like two years into me making comedy sketches. And then that very quickly
Starting point is 00:23:37 became the thing that I was trying to figure out how to make into a career while I was playing cover gigs. I was like, that's what I want my future to be. And I moved to L.A. specifically to find a comedy band. And I told my girlfriend at the time, I was like, if I can find a band like the cooties, I'll be happy. That's like the only thing that I want to do. I swear to God, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And you legit found the fucking cooties, dude. That's what I mean. It's crazy, man. The way it lined up is wild. Well, it's the power of saying yes. boys we could always just like say no say no to everything but if we just like it's like the same thing i i craigslist musicians for the first six years of my my career i've been doing 250 shows a year for 15 years now if i would have just found that la band and realize they all wanted to move on to disney be disney musicians you know like for like Sabrina carpenters and stuff i wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:24:31 found the jam scene i wouldn't have found blues i wouldn't have found my vision it's but It's like your sweatshirt says it all. It's just keep going and keep saying yes. Because if we don't doing that, then we're just our, if we stop when our dreams get hard, then we're not trying to give it its full potential, right? I completely agree with you. I do think it was weird that you paid Tom $1,000 to wear that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And like didn't offer Eric or I any options or whatever. but yeah spiritually philosophically I totally I'm with you yeah so so let's talk about some some band drama what about what happened with Jacob Jeffries oh here we go bro the first podcast interview that anyone's ever asked that question oh god thank you money bro that's awesome yeah nothing really happened dude we just wanted different things and I think that is what came to pass like very again beautifully serendipitously like you know Jacobs in Wolfpack And that's, like, exactly what he should be doing because he's so nasty. He's nasty songwriter, nasty vocalist.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And so it's like, I think that's always what he's wanted is to be more in that kind of creative endeavor. And Eric and I, unfortunately, are truly seven years old morons. So it's like, we, for whatever reason, need to, like, make songs about, you know, a curse where a bird is going to shit on you. And we're like, this is fulfilling. Yeah. I think the three of us were sort of at odds with like what we wanted out of the band. And I'm super proud of everything we did. You know, we sold a TV pilot.
Starting point is 00:26:15 We got to play Conan. We did JFL. We did a whole bunch of amazing stuff. Yeah. That like I'm really proud of that led us here. And also Jacob's like our oldest friend like from South Florida. We know I've known him since I was 15 years old. So it's like I think unfortunately we broke up, which sucks.
Starting point is 00:26:32 But I think it led to us doing. exactly what we all wanted to do. Yeah. Was there any animosity in the beginning years? I think. Of the Coonies? I'm just trying to get some dirt. I was just trying to get some dirt.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I was going to say, we're kind of in the beginning years still. I think we're in like year three right now. It's like this, I don't know. I think of this in a way when I'm hearing your story is you guys always wanted to be this serious band. He breaks out to be in this serious band. Like in our brains, we kind of feel like even if we don't want to, even if we want to be comedians or be our own thing, in my head I'd be like
Starting point is 00:27:07 man, fuck this guy. You know what I'm saying? But it was never like that? No, no, no. All right, cool. Oh, boring. Damn. You just broke up like civil Can you lie for a clip? We feel that way towards each other, for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like, Eric and I are like, dude, fuck this guy. Get out of my fucking face. I don't want to hear shit from you. Go get me a coffee. It's a shine box. Not conducive for songwriting or like fun? No, it's tough. It's tough. Was it intimidating Tom to join the band after that?
Starting point is 00:27:44 I specifically remember being in the room. Yeah, I know. It's funny. I love it. Were you nervous? Andy Stern. Andy, dude, I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 No one has ever asked those questions. Well, you know, it's a different. You both play the same instrument, right? Correct. Yeah. And you know, it's like coming into a thing where he's like goaded. And you're goaded too. You know, I'd be, I'd be insecure going into a band because you're a goat too, Tom, you're dope. You have your own fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:28:15 You probably got a big hog too. So like, let's like. Thank you, bro. I know. I think it's a band. You can tell. I think it's a band of kind of spiritually small hogs. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:25 I think all three of us are coming together being like, I think you're really great, man. Do you want to hear my stupid shit? I suck, dude, I suck. You're not going to like this. But they combine into one big, massive hog. I think, yeah, because once Tom joined the band, it felt like the pieces all came together, right? Yeah, I mean, it's not unlike, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:45 a basketball team or even like the Eagles or something like that where it's like, hey, man, you were here for a while, and then you got traded somewhere else, and it's all good. And then this guy comes in, you know, who's fucking amazing amazing and makes our team even better, you know? Yeah. Well, I'm happy you guys feel that way Because sometimes I get pissed off
Starting point is 00:29:04 About band members joining other bands I got bigger than me So it's very territorial man Just stay I'm trying to take my aggression out on you When I should be going to therapy Is there anything you'd like to get off your chest? Yeah, fuck this guy Sean Eccles No, I'm just gonna just
Starting point is 00:29:19 You guys want to interview Andy for a little bit Help him out Okay, I went to school with the guy named Sean Eccles Let's call him up Let's call him up He's a very successful oral surgeon and Andy hates his guts I don't know why you don't like Sean Andy
Starting point is 00:29:33 I love that guy It's a very different Sean for sure So tell me your approach of how you You're about blowing up online Was it strategic or were you just trying to make good content Hmm See another thing of where Fully goaded on his own
Starting point is 00:29:50 Comes into the band I will say that was a very weak spot of the cooties In that we were a band For five years We did all that great shit but we never hit more than 5,000 Instagram followers. And that was part of a thing of just like, we think we're good.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Why isn't this clicking with the outside world? And that, besides being a great songwriter, a great vocalist, a great piano player, Tom knows how to do that on his own, and he did it himself. And so we very much followed him into the fire of like, let's try what works. And he knew how to like make it digestible.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Maybe you can talk more about that, Tom. Tell me your philosophy. Give me your game plan. Tell me what's the blueprint. Here's my take on all this. And as nice as I think it is for you to say that, I firmly believe that success on social media just happens to, it has to do with how good the shit that you're making is.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And there are some things that you can think about. But in all of the things that I've tried by myself, together with the band, that the reason why we were able to gain 100,000, 150,000 followers in our first year as a band has very little to do with my insider strategy knowledge, and it is everything to do with what we're able to make together. And it's simply about like the thing that you're making, if it's quality, I think it'll go. People get so lost in the weeds of like, what day do I post?
Starting point is 00:31:16 What time do I post? How many times should I post a week over the course of a year? And I think that there is some validity to consistency, but time and time again, if the thing is good and you usually know in your heart and your gut if the thing that you've made is like good and fun and true to you it'll go, it'll find its people and I think the things that we were making
Starting point is 00:31:36 in the beginning were really stupid parodies of popular songs and those are the things that broke us at first and it's just because they were funny to us and they're funny to other people. I would also say the consistency took a ramp up because before we were never
Starting point is 00:31:52 posting with any sort of regularity or quality control or anything and then when we started Wolves of Glendale, it was a very active decision of like, if we're going to do a comedy band for the second time and we're all three going to take our time and get together, we need to treat this like a business and get like corporate about it and get organized.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And I just thought that spoke to your skills as well. You came to the table when you were like, great, I love organization, I love that we're going to be on a schedule. Here's the type of stuff I think we could make. And then you're right, we'd get together and we'd work on something we thought was really quality. Yeah, and then just an experiment. Yeah, it just trash it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like that's like half of the hurdle, which is just getting over your ego and your pride. And like if something bombs, then it's like it does not matter. It's not a failure other than like it didn't perform well. So now you adjust and change. Yeah. No, that's what's one thing thankful of a like a close friend of yours and he's our business partner, Jack.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Jack Gould taught us. I mean, he's saved my life and my whole thing. Instead of like throwing shit out of a wall, be strategic about what shit you're throwing at the wall. You know? Like have a focused. idea, see, study it, be part of the process, and it makes the content completely so much better. And that's what kind of reminds me of like when you're starting to write these songs and you're kind of playing them live, when do you finally approach recording it, like online?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Do you, how many times, how many times you kind of like fine tune the song until you feel it's right? Until you feel the beats of like when the laughs are hitting. Like, tell me about your play-by-play before you start making, recording it. Or do you just go record it first and then play it and play it and play it? No, we're very fortunate in that we live in L.A. And we have lots of stand-up friends and comedy friends. And so we'll write something and we'll go perform it later that night, like at a club or at a night where we get a 10-minute set. And we hear where the laughs are like a stand-up.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And then if things hit, then we go great. We don't need to change that. And then if they don't, then we go back to the drawing board. What I will say, funny enough, that our second album cycle, we just finished recording the second album, it was the first time where we didn't do that. We did that with maybe three tracks that are going to make the record. But the rest of it were, if we were 80% comedy act, 20% band in the first year, I would say it has swung the other way.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I think that we're viewing our trajectory more so like a band in the sense that we're going to drop an album and then promote those tunes instead of like auditioning a lot of them live. I think it took us a full album cycle in the first three years to like find our voice and give us the confidence that we can record 13 tracks and we know that we're like happy to share them without auditioning them.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Right. Because I, there's a chance that if we did play some of the songs that we've written they might still change but we're not going to do that. I agree. I think it was only because we spent two years testing out songs and seeing reactions of audience and what works and playing so many shows that with this album we felt more confident that we're like, yeah, this one's good,
Starting point is 00:34:56 this one's good, let's just try to make the best songs possible. And yeah, I mean, I think social media stuff is kind of a similar thing where we're just like, yeah, I think this is a funny idea, let's put it out and see what happens. Yeah, like one of the songs on our next record, I finished a book, is one that we only wrote a chorus of. The title is a song.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah, and it went. And so we're like, okay, now let's record the full song. And that's what we did. And last thing I'll say about that, this is another fun strategy. If we're talking about a strategy, a social media strategy, in terms of like using energy effectively,
Starting point is 00:35:30 we can write a hook just a chorus and make a short form video for that and put it up. And if it goes, that's like data that we can take and say, hey, people vibe with this. Let's flesh it out into a three and a half minute tune.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Exactly. That's really smart. Yeah. This is, dude, let's fucking go, boys. I'm clapping for you. I love this. I fucking love this.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Oh yeah. I love this. Let's hang out. Go heat. Does comedy songwriters get pussy? That's my next question. Do you get groupies? You have a girlfriend, boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Do you get dick? What's the... Oh, he's married. Loser! Okay, married. Nerd. Nerd. I'm not even hearing your locker room talk.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You disgusting boys. I love... No, but like, yeah, I was like, I was like, I was like, crazy stalker fans. You have people who don't agree with the song you're pushing. Nothing like...
Starting point is 00:36:20 Bro, we have just like the... nicest, sweetest, coolest fans in the world. I think we're very lucky there that the people that like us are into just like niche geek stuff. And so they're just like very sweet, very polite, very shy. Yeah. It's very cool. We get a lot of people who are like, this was my first concert.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I'm 29 years old. Like come to, and we're like, what are you talking about your first? It's like, yeah, I'm too anxious to go outside. But I feel safe coming to like one of your shows because I have a feeling that the, you know, the audience that likes this is like really supportive and positive. cool. And like even after shows, the staff usually comes up to one of us and says like, your fans
Starting point is 00:36:57 were the nicest, most respectful, perfect crowd ever. They'll literally make friends at the shows. Like people will come to shows and be like, oh, I'm coming with Stephanie who I met at your other show. That sounds like a jam band a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Similar vibe. Yeah. So tell me, you know, I went, I went on tour with Kyle Gas, and I heard your story about you guys with Tenacious Dee.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Hey. Let's clap for Kyle. He doesn't get enough love. He kind of does it. You're right. Jack gets a most of love and Kyle should be getting the fucking love. He's a ripping guitar player too. So tell us about your story of how tenacious.
Starting point is 00:37:35 One of the first real champions of our band. Yeah, that's why I wanted to hear. Tell the story of how Tenacious Dee found you guys and took you on tour and that whole thing. Well, I got a call from our buddy John Spiker who just produced our, our album. Hey, can we hear it for John Spiker? This guy's a legend for John. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I love you. Tell me what a clap, boys. I'll clap for you. Yeah, I like it. We've got 14 people in the back on a mic. This was during the Omicron years of COVID. And he asked,
Starting point is 00:38:11 he was reuniting train wreck, his solo band. And so they asked me to be the drummer for basically like six tours, And they all got canceled because of COVID. And so we basically spent six months rehearsing together at the D space with me and Kyle and John. And basically all of Tenacious D minus Jack. And it was interesting because this was sort of like at the end of the Cooties and during the beginning of the Wolves of Glendale.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And I remember after a rehearsal talking with Jack and Kyle just being like, I don't know. Like should I start a comedy band you guys? You know? And they were like, yeah, you should do that. You know, because we were talking with Tom, and I was like, I don't know if I want to do this again. And they were like, yes, you must. And so Kyle definitely saw the birth of Wolfe.
Starting point is 00:39:04 He came to our first shows. Yeah. He came to everything. And then I think it was about nine months later when they were announcing those Vegas shows that he had seen us enough times and was such a supporter that he asked us to open for him. It was like unreal. So what was it like your first moment with these guys?
Starting point is 00:39:21 I mean, is it kind of your idols? Like, what was the first moment? Like, were you nervous? Was, uh, what? Yes. Tell us everything. Yeah, absolute inner, inner panic for sure. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:31 One of the first moments. It's fucking insane, dude. It's your idols, dude. It's crazy. No, we were playing like fucking canters before that. We were literally playing in a deli and then fucking, we go to Vegas. We're playing two nights New Year's. It's like 4,000 seat theater.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And at Sound Check, I remember, I think that was the first time. Yeah. we saw Jack or one of the first times. Yeah. And they were just going, like, so hard at Soundcheck, like, as if it was just a full-blown concert show. And then, yeah, they just both were just so complimentary and so supportive of us.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And it was just a really, yeah, kind of, like, world-shattering thing. And I should shout out Reggie Watts, who came and did, like, an improv solo during one of our songs, Planetarium Dump. So, go check it out. So sick. Great titles. But thank you so much. But yeah, I mean, that's just for me.
Starting point is 00:40:22 You know, let the guy speak. But like, it was definitely like, I cannot believe this is happening. I cannot believe this is happening. We're such a baby band also. And it was just like, you know, we had friends come out and family come out. It was just like the most fun thing. Yeah. Good to hang out in the fucking Virgin Hotel.
Starting point is 00:40:39 We pull up our names on the side of the building. It was great. I'll never forget that, man. Yeah. It was like such a crazy. That was month nine of us being a band. Oh my God. It's fucking insane, dudes.
Starting point is 00:40:48 It's crazy, man. It's like not, it's not lost on any of us how rare that opportunity is. And I think it just goes back to the serendipity, like the nature of you being in the train wreck shit when we were kind of getting started. And kudos to Kyle. Yes. Thank you, Rage Gage. Like, we played Netflix as a joke fest May 2023, which is two months after we formed as a band. And when we got that gig, we only had two songs.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And they were like, can you play a half hour? And we were like, yeah, no problem. And so we were like, okay, we have. a month to write three songs and polish five songs. And we did. And then we got there and we played those songs the first time. And Cage, like, after the set comes up to the stage and is very aware that, like, an endorsement from Kyle Gass as a comedy band is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And he, like, you know, took some pictures and had his hands up and got the crowd going. And it's like, that's so cool. It was awesome. And in Vegas, Jack did a very similar thing where he took the time to, like, come to the green room and hang out. He was so nice. he like gave us an endorsement and it was just like the kings of comedy rock are like you know yeah yeah it's great anointing yeah i mean Kyle flew out to our show in ohio because he saw us play in l.A came out in ohio and i couldn't believe because we're all such i mean we're all
Starting point is 00:42:05 say maize how old do you guys 30 30-thirty 27 22 22 22 okay very nice yeah uh yeah so i mean those are those are our idols growing up, you know? 22. Oh, my God. Anyway, no, for sure, bro. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'd like to talk about that movement from going from that, what's that bar at canters? That's right next door to the canters. Give it's room. Give it true. Yeah. To playing this 5,000 cap room,
Starting point is 00:42:39 what were the growing pains of getting your beats on for your set, for your shows? like go through your set a little bit, that first show playing for that many people. Like talk about how you thought you were going to approach a set and how you could take it differently now thinking about it. Well, what's funny is, it's a really great question
Starting point is 00:43:00 because we did two nights with them. And none of us had seen Tenacious Steve before live, I don't think. And so we definitely had a game plan. We had like a few months of roll up for the gig. we put together what we thought would be like the best set of all time. Also, we only had fucking seven songs. So it's like, we knew what we were playing.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And it was like a 30 minute set, you know? So it was like... Five tunes. Yeah. So, but we were like, all right, we're going to go out there and we're going to fucking come for the face. And then we played our first night. And I would say it was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:43:36 The sound also was bad in our defense. Our monitors weren't working right. So we weren't hearing proper sound. But we weren't. We thought it was fine. You know, we did our jobs and the audience seemed to really enjoy it and we were like, all right, you know, feel pretty good about that, whatever. But then...
Starting point is 00:43:52 And then we saw Tenacious D. go on stage and, you know, I'd like to think that we're, like, we're very competent musicians and can play, you know. So it's not like they were necessarily like light years, just playing shit that we could never play. But the energy and the K-Fabe and the pro-Ressling. attitude of I'm playing in front of 5,000 people. I need to be the rock right now. Energetically, I need to be big.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And we saw them do that. And we were like, oh, shit. Like our heads exploded. And then the next night, we learned from them be fucking huge and big. And the crowd loved it the second night. It was way better. Yeah. Isn't it crazy?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Like, those little mannerisms can win over. Because it's like, we went on a tour with Burke Kreischer. and like I was just playing acoustic for a little bit for open the set and I saw the difference between when I went a little more exaggerated like it was my rock show versus I was timid like I was supposed to play that role of the fucking songwriter thing and I saw the difference in the crowd because like playing for these fucking amphitheaters isn't very comedy-esque or isn't comedy appropriate you know like it's comedy's better when it's like you could feel the energy in the room so it's you have to. approach it a lot differently. And you guys being fucking dope musicians, you have to, you think of both, you have to think of both sides of it, right? You got to play good and be funny. Quick break from the interview. I want to talk about our lovely sponsor. Gardinista. Gardanista is the freshest, most delicious, ready-to-serve cocktail. And it's unlike anything you ever tasted. It really isn't. It's really nice, actually. It's made with natural
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Starting point is 00:46:57 Oh, he told us to say. Also, my best friend, Jason, has a huge hog. And that's true. So grab Cardinista and let them know Frasco and Jason's huge hog sent you. All right, goodbye for the interview. How did you enjoy opening for a comic. I liked it. I thought it was, I thought I got, my goal was not to be funny. You know, my goal was to play the good songs, approach it, because, you know, I'm not trying to do some
Starting point is 00:47:27 low-hanging fruit. I'm a musician. So, like, they're not expecting me to be funny. I got a couple of jokes in there, but I didn't want, I didn't want to step on anyone's toes. Like, my job was to play the songs that Bert loved, yada, yada, and approach it differently. But the first time I did that, I opened for, I scored Gary Goldman's. I scored Gary Goldman. Wilman's HBO Depress, Great Depression. And we played, we played, I played the Wilbur and I tried to be funny and I fucking bombed. I'm like, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never doing that fucking getting.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm just going to play the songs, play the meaningful songs. And so like, it's funny how, I mean, you got to kind of put your dick out there, no pun intended, to fucking, like your first night of the show, like, oh, you don't know what to do. And then you saw these fucking rock stars kick the fucking door down. You're like, oh, that's where I could take this thing. And then so from there, you're like, anything's possible. So has there been, can you tell us among any shows where you've, like, bombed? What was a hard bomb?
Starting point is 00:48:29 I remember we played Silver Lake Lounge once. Oh, that was it, dude. And I will say, I'm proud to say that we haven't actually bombed a lot. And I was mostly because we're playing music. So it's like, if we're, if it's not going over, well, we're still just a band playing a song. You know, right, right. And we have each other, which is like another cheat code. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, you guys have weird. When you're up there with your boys, your boys, you got everybody. Almost like an improv group or something where it's like, wow, we are dying, but we're dying together. And we can look at each other and laugh and be like, this is not going over well. Sometimes I will say it's like some of my favorite stuff when the audience is not fully with us. And then we get the ability to take jokes further than we normally would just because now we're just,
Starting point is 00:49:15 doing it for ourselves. Yeah. It's like, they're not going to get it, but if I can break Ethan or if I can break Eric, then like this is a win of a show. The show is going to,
Starting point is 00:49:23 it's going to be fun to play. Yeah. I think the trick with us sometimes is, especially with a comedy band, it's like you have to be able to hear the lyrics. And if you're not in a room
Starting point is 00:49:34 that's not conducive for you to hear lyrics, like, it's going to be rough. Like, I remember the other time, we played like a house party. I was just going to say Red Show and Blue Show.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is the first, and this is a great idea for a show. It's called Red Show Blue Show, two separate rooms on the property. One is the Red Room, one's the Blue Room. All of the comics play both rooms.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And when you get there, you have to pick a room to commit to the whole time. And at the end, you come together as a whole party and vote on which room was the hotter room. And we were asked. That is cool. Dude, it is. The show rules. They've done it a bunch. It's an amazing show run by really funny guys.
Starting point is 00:50:13 They asked us to play the kickoff part. outside on the patio for our set to be after the final judgment of which room wins. Oh, shit. For whatever. We didn't have the foresight to know that like people were just going to treat that like a house party at that point. They've been drinking for two hours. Just saw two comedy shows.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah. We're outside. And so we start and again, like Eric said, like it's vital that you're like listening to our tunes to get the jokes. We start playing and immediately people start talking and treat us as if we're like wallpaper playing covers. Yes. for like somebody's nephew's band
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah And the host were so They felt so I still see Tommy And he's still like I have nightmares about red show blue show Oh sorry It was raining and then there was like a tarp Over this thing
Starting point is 00:50:55 But it was leaking So there was like It was like water torture Like yeah It was crazy It was rough dude You're getting water boarded While people are just fucking shitting on you
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah That's crazy dude Oh my yeah It's all about the right I mean for what you're doing That's why like Controlled space You know like
Starting point is 00:51:13 That's why it's got to be so hard to play these fucking amputers opening where people are walking in, getting their beers, sitting down, talking to their friends. You've got to really know how to zip them up or zip them in. And that's like, another question is, what's your take on, like, kind of like low-hanging fruit, like being vulgar or cussing? And what's your approach on that when you're, when you're wanting?
Starting point is 00:51:37 I think we try not to go to, yeah, like, sexual or vulgar, you know. And I think also, we try not to curse but we do curse in the songs and I think that's because a lot of times it's just like that's the funnier move yeah we can break it if somebody can beat it and think of something funnier than like I'm all you know we're all down with it but yeah you know a well-placed fuck is like really hard to beat that's true right it's tough yeah you know but we are going to do and we've done it for a few of the songs like clean versions of the songs because there are people that listen with their kids and stuff and they're always like oh thank you for releasing a clean version but we
Starting point is 00:52:12 definitely don't lean on it. We don't try to. Yeah. And, yeah, I think it's just whatever's funniest. Yeah, that's it. And also, with low-hanging fruit, it's like, I think we're all quick to be like, I've seen that before, I've heard this before. Well, I think we're always searching for kind of a fresh take on something. Yeah, we definitely don't want to step on anybody else's toes. And I think we all intake so much comedy and music that usually it's one of us, it's like, uh, that's a little too much like this bit or this, you know, this, you know, this, answer this song, let's move away from it.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And there's always something else. Yeah, or like just, uh, we sometimes we call it, Hey Girl musical comedy, which is I feel like a lot of like, musical comedy of like cheesy musical comedy of the past has been like, hey girl kind of stuff. Right. Digging a box.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Dick in a box or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, yeah. Well, digging a box is great. I love that, but it's always copying that now. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. That's exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Worst versions of when those things are really good. Exactly. Now I regret asking you. if you guys get pussy on the roof. Sorry about that, boys. Sorry about that. They're good boys. I would love to know what your ideal day on the road looks like.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Cocaine, hookers, 10 shots of fucking Jameson. Anxiety. Can I talk about? No water. Tom actually one time got, Tom got Venmoed once while we were on stage of the Virgil. and that was a first.
Starting point is 00:53:43 When we were first coming up and he, you know, you just, we started doing stuff and we're like, man, this is like jacked handsome guys in our band. I think we're all going to be
Starting point is 00:53:50 swimming in it pretty soon. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, I remember after the show, Tom looks at his own Venmo and some girl Venmoed him $5. He goes, here's my number and here's $5.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Like, will you go on a day with me? I'm telling me. I forgot about that. Tom got that big hog energy. He's like, I'm telling you. That's a big hog energy.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It's like, Where can I go for $5? Yeah. That was funny. That was hilarious. But for 50, he does go on dates. Yeah, for sure. You know, I'm in a very happy long-term relationship.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I will date someone for 50 bucks. 50 bucks. First date. Pretty tax. Well, what I'll say is that, like, our, another reason why I think it works very well is that none of us are like super heavy drinkers. We're not like. No blow, no nothing. No blow, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like, when we pull up to a hotel and they have a Peloton and the gym, We're like, yes, bro. Yeah. This is going to rule. Like, dude, a whole hoopin's hot bar. Yeah, going to a whole play. There's a smoothie place here by. You know what's porn or something?
Starting point is 00:54:49 Anything? Yeah. Yeah. You got a little bit. You got gambling at it. You got you're bending on some horse races. What do you got? Something?
Starting point is 00:54:58 We do like to gamble. I will say one of the greatest moments of, uh, of the Vegas trip. I remember it was like two in the morning. And I'm smoking a cigarette playing blackjack with cage. Oh, yeah. And, uh, I was like, this, this is the life. His hair going crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I'm a degenerate gambler. I think I like smoking more than I like gambling, but I do love cigarette. Yeah, when Eric says gambling, that's like the one time in two or three years that we're gambling. But I think we like the idea of gambling. And it's like, I like to play poker for $20. I play cards. I could quit blow. I could quit my sex addiction.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I could quit all this stuff. But cigarette, God damn. There's something about a cigarette after a show, dude. It's the best. I know. Post-show sick. I get into hand-rolling, unfortunately. That's how I feel about burritos.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Honestly, that's our band vice is food. Food. Like, there we go. Like, especially when we go on tour, like, we just go, like, not like, hey, what's around here, it goes, what's the most delicious thing you could possibly put in your body? And if it's not good, we're going to be pissed and we're coming for you. Yeah. You ever get food poison before a show?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Oh, my God. No, not yet. Let's knock on wood. We don't want that. We don't want that evil. Have you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Well, could have been food. I crowd surf all the time. I crowd surf all, I crowd surf all the time. And I always get, I always crowd serve dick down. And I'm getting punched in the dick in my stomach. And one time I almost, I almost shat myself on the crowd. It was like bad.
Starting point is 00:56:28 It was like a watery shit. I've never even heard of this one. Because it's embarrassing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I had to hold my butt cheeks until I got brought back from the stage. Because I was like squirting all over my leg. I think you're censoring. I think you're censoring.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I think you're censoring. the real story, which is that you did shit on the audience. I definitely shit on the audience. I was wearing pants. I was wearing pants. So funny if you tried to blame someone else. You're the only one above us. Who shat on me? Who shat on?
Starting point is 00:56:52 Who shir was the guy above us? Who shat on? I'm getting shot on too. I don't know who it is. God, I could talk to guys forever. I got two more questions. I want to talk about your new show, Iron Songwriter. But before we do that, you know, we talk about Weird Al.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Weird Al is one of the greatest. Oh, right. Comedy, music. He's the Paul McCartney, right? Of comedy music? Is he the Paul McCartney probably? Pretty much. I mean, is he the Beethoven?
Starting point is 00:57:16 I don't know. He's a great musician, too, not just like a funny guy. Who would be your Mount Rushmore for music comedy? Wow. J-R-R-R-R-R-L. Hell yeah. Dutty. No, intentional.
Starting point is 00:57:29 It's got to be intentional comedy. Did he three times in J-R-R-R-G. You know what's pretty funny? Who's a dirtback, R. Kelly. Trapped in the closet, was in the cell. Oh, my God. And that's right there. And then there was.
Starting point is 00:57:40 It was a midgett, midget. Yeah. It was a midget. Trapped in a closet was like, that was a, in high school. That was, I had never seen anything like that. We should honestly do something like that. A 33 chapter. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Like Super long dramatic narrative. Trapped in the closet. He did rivalry. We probably will eventually. Dude, try something like that. Yeah. What I loved about it, you know, I didn't love the man, but what I loved about
Starting point is 00:58:02 trapped in the closet was the arc. The same arc. Yes. In the song. It was this climax. It's incredible. I thought that was. brilliant. And like, I was still
Starting point is 00:58:12 entertained after the 33rd episode. I was like, there was a preacher, there was a preacher fucking, who got gay, you know? It's like a lot of things going on there. It's amazing. We're all, we're just five guys that all agree R. Kelly is amazing. Yeah, let's say it. Let's call it what it is.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I haven't found anything I don't like about him yet. Let's clap for R. Kelly. Let's you clap for Rkelly. And quip this. They did some guy stuff and now he's a bad guy for doing guy stuff. He pees on one person. I'm just kidding. You can't do guys stuff with your friends anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I'll delete that for you. Okay, so tell us about your Mount Rushmore. Tell us about your comedy Mount Rushmore. Comedy music, honestly, when you were naming comedy music people before, the one that lit up in my mind was Ilvis. I feel like they don't get enough love, and they should be on the Rushmore. Like, I think their songs are just such incredible songs that I want to re-listen to. L-V-V-I-S-I-L-E-V-E-V-E-V-S.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Is my nomination. People know them as the, what does the Fox say? But there's so much deeper and, you know, legendary. Yeah. I think I've got mine. If we're going for four for Mount Rush Rock. Do it four each? It would be weird out, boat burn them.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I have to go Tenacious D. I have to. Got it. And if there's four, I think that only because it's personal, it would have to be Concourse, flight of the Concourse. Oh, yeah. Elvis. Because when I found Elvis, I was like, oh, this exists.
Starting point is 00:59:39 overseas as well like that's quality over there too but those four for me like shaped the reason why I want to do this um god you look so familiar are you in that other comedy group from NYU the the girl there's a girl who plays and they're dancing there's a piano player and a drummer no glass played did the type a dynasty typewriter with them to shit um oh do two tree hill two tree yes yes yeah yeah those guys do fucking rule dude yeah yeah yeah Tudry Hill are great. They're also mutual friends. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:00:12 They borrowed a guitar of mine for that dynasty show. Oh, yeah. You guys were on that dynasty show too? No, no, they borrowed a guitar for that show. Oh, that's so funny. But they're in New York and they're good dudes. And yeah, them and Rose, who they perform with for that show. I'm about to jazz.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Don't stop. I'm about the jazz. I went to that. That shit was fucking hilarious. And they had all the musicians or the comedians, like, improv with them. It was killer. That's cool. Yeah, Veronica did a tune with them.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Our buddy Josh Harmon was on drums for that show as an unbelievable comedy drummer. Yeah, good dudes. Good dudes. That's awesome. All right, so we need one from you, sir. Oh, okay. You can repeat if you want.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah, got to go the D. Gotta go Weird Al. I'm going to put in the Mighty Bouch. Oh, yeah. They're not technically a band. I like that. But they do comedy music, and I feel like we're, are from the same planet
Starting point is 01:01:10 whatever I see from them I go this is the greatest thing and then I'm fucking lonely island oh my god I mean wow he stole one from you
Starting point is 01:01:25 look how mad he is he's like mother fuckers they might be Thomas Jefferson yeah four is not enough dude yeah that's okay we also share each other's yeah rushmore
Starting point is 01:01:36 and sign off on them I'll try and just go quick I'll just say it's definitely Ilvis Sandler Oh yeah We've got Sandler Sandler for me was huge
Starting point is 01:01:47 My cousin gave me a Sandler CD When I was like whatever 9 or something And it just like changed me up Ilvis Sandler D obviously I got to check out Elvis Yeah I did too I didn't know about them They're so good
Starting point is 01:02:03 Elvis is incredible man We'll send you some stuff It's so good Send it to me I got it I'll say yellow card. Yeah, Arx bandits.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Ourx bandits. I love Arxie. Yeah, dude. I worked at drive-thru. Whoa. Oh, really? Yeah, we should have been talking about that the whole time.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I'm a pop punk kid, dude. I booked hello goodbye something corporate, Arx Bandits, and early November. Come on. That was my thing. Dude, Ace Embers, man.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Ace Enders, man. Yeah, he was the man. All those New Jersey bands, even like, Finch and shit was sick. I love Finch. Are you from Jersey? I'm from L.A. I grew up in Calabas, West Hills.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Oh, that's right. Nice. Word. Well, sorry, keep going. Yeah, yellow card. That got me rock hard. Sorry. I'm literally thinking about how you, like, have met the people in our expandits, and I'm freaking out.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Oh, dude. He's the best. He's in Guster now. Oh, really? That's cool. I did not fucking know that. Flight of the Concords. I think that's safe to say.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I think Fly the Concord's D. Elvis Sandler. Sandler's a great pool. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, I didn't even think of him so much as an actor. Oh, man. Oh, yeah, he had fucking albums. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I mean, even like a song. Comedy songs. Yeah, he's unbelievable. Dude, Steph Farley's song was unbelievable. It made me cry. And then the one about stand-ups? Like, God. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I wanted to say, like, the, what Sandler can do and get to the, like, heartfelt moments is, like, absolutely incredible how it can be funny and have that human aspect to it. And then I got to do honorable mention inside by Bo Byrne. specifically. Special is like
Starting point is 01:03:41 maybe the best yeah special. And then like it was a masterpiece. Didn't he fucking he put he built all his shots too right? He was he was one man show of nothing.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yeah it was during COVID. Everything himself. He framed all of it himself. He recorded everything himself. Music and video. It was crazy man. That's a masterpiece. So boys,
Starting point is 01:04:00 I know you got to get out of here. Iron songwriter. This is this concept is fucking tight. As a songwriter too. this is sick as fuck. Why don't you tell the people about the concept, buddy. Tell me, this is amazing. First things first, we'd love to have you on the show at some point.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Dude, dude, anytime you want, bro, I'm in, dude. Let's go. I'm in. That would be so fun. Dude, I got to. Yeah, I'll get your number from Jack before we leave before you guys do. Yeah, great. No, you'll never get our phone number, but yeah, sounds good.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I like this, guys. You can be outside. Once this call is done, we're done. Yeah. I'll be outside the door just beating off while you guys. Don't let him in. That was good. So tell us about your new, this concept is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Tell the fans about this. Yeah, we are so excited about this. It's a time-constrained songwriting challenge. So we always have one hour to write the best song that we can with some sort of variable. We've been really loving using lines from a movie as song lyrics. And then we set a timer and we have to try to do it. So the first episode was only lines from Shrek 1. write the best song that we can,
Starting point is 01:05:09 and no matter what, we have to produce the song and put it on streaming services when it's done, even if it sucks. Which is why you can check out the song and music video for Donkey on the Edge,
Starting point is 01:05:19 the song that we wrote in an hour, we're using Shrek lyrics. Correct. And we're just about to film one using lines from Jurassic Park. We already filmed one using lines from B movie, which everyone on the Shrek video
Starting point is 01:05:30 was asking for. We don't know why. Weird. It's a cold classic B movies. That was Jerry Sideson. That was Jerry Sides. Jerry Seinfeld in that? Correct.
Starting point is 01:05:40 That's his movie. The Jerry Sinfeld movie about bees. We did that one. Yep. But it's... That's my life right now. That's what I'm doing. Oh, I love it, boys.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I don't have health insurance. So what? Are you guys like, how do you get these concepts? Do you pull from a straw or like people, are you just thinking about it? Right now we're just kind of thinking about it. The B movie one is just because it was like it had 4,000 likes on the Shrek video. And you're like, I guess we'll, can do this. We don't know, but...
Starting point is 01:06:10 People love it. People love it. We initially were like, oh, we should do different challenges. Like, one was the Shrek one, and then one is like, you know, we do them like in the total darkness, almost like jackass style, like, you know, pitch black or getting a tattoo or, you know. It'll probably evolve to that place where, like, yeah, you, Eric has always used this reference of, like, songwriting and jackass combined, where it's like, let's write a song in the middle of a hit workout class, a CrossFit class. American Ninja Warrior.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Yeah, exactly. more of a physical challenge. Right. But now, I think for now, it's like, we struck upon something we really like. It seems like people really like it. And we've got a lot of, you know, new fans from this new show that had no idea we existed.
Starting point is 01:06:50 And they have just been saying, do this movie, do this movie. So we're like, okay, let's, let's run this a few times. Let's just do lines from movies. Yeah. For whatever five or ten. We'll do Jerry Seinfeld, Pop-Tart movie. So you're putting yourself.
Starting point is 01:07:03 You're putting yourself in a time straight, like one hour to fit to this, to the whole production. or just make a bare bones demo? Just the song, literally just writing the song. And the production we take over the next week or so, we record ourselves producing it, and then we send it out to get mixed. But it would have been too much to try to produce it in an hour as well.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, that's a lot. But that's pretty sick. This is a great concept. So 59, have you ever not, have you ever not finished a song? No. Not yet. So far so good. That's my fucking guys.
Starting point is 01:07:35 That's my fucking boys. There it is. You guys should do Passenger 57. Those are my fucking guys right there. You should try Passenger 57. That's got some really great. Bad action movie lines. Always been on black.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Jesus. We're definitely, dude, we're definitely going to go through a ride. We love action movies more than anything. Oh, they're the best. We're going to do. Point break. We're going to do. Face off.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah. Face off. It has to do. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, this is unbelievable. I, we're friends. I feel like we're, we are cut from the same cloth.
Starting point is 01:08:05 This is the same cloth. Same cloth. The same cloth. Shout out to Vans Warb Tour. Shout out to Drive-Thru Records. Yes. Dude, we're playing Work for next year. We are.
Starting point is 01:08:15 That's right. We're clapping one more time. Let's go. We are. That's my dream. That's my dream. I used to like, I used to work Warp Tour. They had the drive-through stage.
Starting point is 01:08:26 But I always thought like when I was a kid and I was like, that Ernie Ball stage, one of these years. I'm going to be on that Ernie Ball stage. It'll be mine. We'll get there. That's good be. that's going to be a very interesting how you're going to suck the crowd in because it's
Starting point is 01:08:42 you know it's outside it's hot as fuck I wonder what time you're playing at each night we're just going to play green day covers let's go I've always like thought about that it's so fucking it was always so fucking hot dude that whole the warptory like feet like they
Starting point is 01:08:58 they pick the most random dates like Baker's field like yeah we're doing it in Tampa the Tampa warped tour oh that's a good Oh, God. Dude, that's the best. Oh, Tampa.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah, St. Pete Tampa. That's the shit. All right, I got one last question for you guys. I'll let you guys be these brilliant songwriters that you are. Okay, so I want you, there's three, three of you. I want you each to pick one person and say something nice about them being in your band. And it can't be yourself. We don't have time, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:09:26 We have to go. We got to get out of here. Thank you so much. Say something that you and that inspires you about that person. person. That's a really nice question. Okay. Who wants to go first?
Starting point is 01:09:42 And I have to say it about one of them. One of them. Yeah, yeah. Each you have to pick one person. Can't be you. Can't be you. Okay. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:09:50 In regards to the band, what they bring in the band? Anything. What do you bring on tour? Like, maybe like, you know, I really love that you bring an extra donut with you after you get something. Or like, you let me have the last Tokyo sick. You know, shit like that. Well, Tom is, uh, will always, uh,
Starting point is 01:10:06 offer to grab coffees if someone needs like, hey, we got sound check. I see that you're, you know, everything's sort of set up. I got 10 minutes. You guys go hanging the green room. I'm going to go get us coffees. What do you want? Yeah, I would double up on that and say Tom is always looking out for other people, always wants everybody to be happy and comfortable, putting himself last.
Starting point is 01:10:26 No, by the sound guy, a cake, if it's his birthday. Yeah, exactly. Like, Tom's just super, super nice guy. Tom's a match. I always looking out. But I can't go forward without giving. I can't, I can't go for it. without giving Eric a compliment also and just say that Eric is an absolute positive vibe energy
Starting point is 01:10:44 output machine and I think keeps everybody like in a good mood keeps us laughing all the time even when things get tough and is always just bringing something new into our lives that we would have never heard about or known about and is now like wow this is like my favorite thing Eric knows me so well he recommended the exact, you know, piece of art that I needed right now for some reason. So, I appreciate a lot. And we're running out of minutes on the call, so we've got to go. Data, you know, data. Dude, data is so expensive these days.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I know, dude, I have roll over minutes. No, we have to say, and I think I can speak for Eric on this, too. Ethan has a very, very, uh, ferocious sense of loyalty and commitment and focus. that I think is the reason that in the first year of this band, we accomplished anything at all, because it's always, it was Ethan and continues to be in so many ways. Ethan is the guy that's like, okay, we want to do this, what days are we getting together, and what time are we going to be there?
Starting point is 01:11:48 And then he's always 15 minutes early, and then he's just always down to, like, say yes and work on shit. You need that guy in your match. He need that guy. An invaluable asset role to play in a group. So, very grateful for that. And now I'm going to start.
Starting point is 01:12:06 And now I just cry the rest of the day. And if you need help moving, if you lost your cat, if anything happened, he will be the first person there. Well, thank God. To help you do something. Thank God for that.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Just a bunch of grenades velcroed to my shirt. Ready to go. Yeah. Well, thank God you pick Tom over Jacob Jeffries, that motherfucker. Okay. Thank you so much. being on the show.
Starting point is 01:12:29 You didn't have to say it. I'll say it before. You fuck that guy. No, I'm just, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I can't hear you guys. I got to go. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:12:39 No, together you guys are strongest and I'm just so happy. I got to meet you. I've been a fan of you guys for a long time. And thank you for making Jack's, Jack raves about you all the time. And as our podcast producer, I know you, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:51 South Florida represent, you know, so here we are. Absolutely. He and I used to watch the drive-thru DVD together. We were in a scoban together. Oh, hell yeah. He's my day ones, Jack Gould.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Together, let's take the, let's take it over, baby. Have fun out there. Be safe. And make sure you still love it, because that's all the matters. For sure. Thank you so much for having us. We'll see you when you get here to do a iron song. Yeah, I'm playing Trubidor at the end of the month.
Starting point is 01:13:17 If you guys want to come out. Yeah, come on out. What day? What day? The 30th. Great. Oh, we're there. Bro, we're filming that day.
Starting point is 01:13:25 That's right. We're filming during the day. Nighttime. Are you playing? Nighttime or late in. Nighttime, baby. It's a new show. I'll throw you guys on the list.
Starting point is 01:13:32 If you guys want to sit in with us, it'd be sick. We got you. Let's do some shit. We love the troubadour. Get real. Come on, let's go. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I'll get your number from Jack. We'll make it happen. We'll see you there. All right, boys. Have a great day and keep making people smile. You guys are the shit. Oh, thank you, brother. Larry, bud.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Likewise. See you. Bye.

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