Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Wolves of Glendale on Opening for Tenacious D, Comedy Music, and Going Viral
Episode Date: February 3, 2026Andy Frasco sits down with Wolves of Glendale for a wildly honest, hilarious, and surprisingly deep conversation about comedy music, blowing up online, and saying "yes" when the universe nudges you. T...hey break down how Wolves of Glendale went from Berklee kids and side projects to opening for Tenacious D, selling out shows, and building a massive fanbase. You'll hear how comedy and musicianship collided to create something real, plus why testing songs live, embracing failure, and trusting your gut still beats "posting at the right time." The crew also dives into Iron Songwriter, their new time-crunch songwriting series that turns movie lines into full songs in under an hour. If you're a musician, comedian, creator, or just someone trying to figure out how the hell anything works anymore, stick around.
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What was the first tune you guys wrote together?
First tune was Red Panda.
That's correct.
I believe.
Which was a song, just a fun song about how red pandas are cool as hell and more people
should know about them.
I love a simple premise.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Attention to that.
Wow.
She broke up with someone?
I don't know.
And we're live.
Andy Frasco's World City Podcast.
I'm Andy Frasco.
How's your head?
How's your mind?
Yo, I fucking love being on my phone.
It's the best.
It's so much better than people.
God, I could deliver.
literally like watch. Everyone's like, oh, it's a poison. It's a poison. Yeah, poison's great. Alcohol's a poison. Amazing. Weed,
poison. Great. I watch people with Downsardium for four hours. Oh, they're the best people on Earth.
They're the nicest, sweetest. I love them. I love it. I'll watch people eat food. I'll watch people.
Gold retrievers. I'll watch gold retrievers. God, why does this get such a bad rap? I get like, I get like, I get like, I have like a very
wholesome. Yeah, what's your real? What's your real? I don't really ever get like. Like, look at this
Chiwala. It's just in a
it's in a bathtub. Yeah, I got some
drug jokes, some
dogs. God.
How you doing, Nick? Mom Downey.
We got wolves of Glendale tonight.
Norm MacDonald.
Keep going. Keep going.
Our producer Jack's like, this is the dumbest bit ever.
But it's not a bit. We really love our phone.
People love dumb bits, actually.
We just got a new computer. We're hyped up
about it. We're just jacked up. We got
wolves of Glendale on this show tonight.
Those guys are fucking
hilarious.
The great thing about this episode is we have all the video episode.
We have all the video for it too.
It's going to be awesome.
Jack crushed it on this one, man.
Zach crushed it on this one.
He just totally...
Whenever he messes up, let's call him Zach.
Yeah, every time Jack messes up.
Zach, we were in a bundle, we were in a...
It kind of wasn't his fault, though.
It wasn't because we bought this new Mac Mini.
Kermudgeon, not the word, by the way.
What's the word?
Curmugin's like an old man that's like mad.
Carmugin's like what you think I am.
Yeah, you're a little bit of crumogy.
I was crumagy last night.
I like stuff.
What are you talking about?
You're like, you're okay.
You look weird.
Even in Cooney were both kind of just like, boom, boom.
But I think you were just tired.
I was tired.
I don't think I'm a cremuchin, by the way.
I think I'm just calm so people think I don't like stuff.
Yeah.
I like stuff.
You can't, you can't.
A cremogen is like what other people think you are, not what you think a crumogen is.
What?
That's not.
Anyway, shout out to Amazon.
For hook us up for 300.
Shout out to Amazon.
For laying off my brother.
Oh, yeah, fuck Amazon.
Dude.
And they laid off my brother.
I wonder how many people do that and just scam Amazon.
I think it's probably an industry.
It's got to be an industry.
They probably have like 100 accounts and they're like,
they probably buy like a really fancy computer so it doesn't work.
And they're like, yeah, just keep it.
What's drop shipping?
Isn't that kind of an Amazon scam?
You're like, what's drop shipping?
Like buy stuff?
I don't know.
When you don't have inventory.
Yeah, you just kind of like, you're middleman, basically.
You're a middleman, basically.
Basically, everything in America is just middle-lating better products.
Wow.
Well, we have Wolves of Glendale, and it was awesome.
They talked about how they blew up on the internet.
They're a comedy music group.
If you don't know who they are, they're really big.
They're like becoming like the new tenacious D.
Yeah, they are.
They're funny.
They got a great new show on YouTube.
Nice guys.
Hands.
And they, you know, they're like, you know, they.
they blew up online with these, they're Berkeley kids,
and they didn't have anything bad to say about Berkeley.
I know.
You want to hate Berkeley so bad.
What started that for you?
What, Berkeley, hating Berkeley?
Because there's way more potential schools than Berkeley.
I mean, they get into it in the interview, actually.
But I just, every band that came out of Berkeley kind of puts their fucking nose up a little bit.
Isn't every band kind of do that, period?
Any band that went to music school a little bit.
Well, if you had those student loans, you probably would, too.
Dude, I think about the musical kids who don't make any money
and Trump is going to take their paycheck.
How are they going to take?
Did you hear about this?
So starting January 10th or something or January 11th,
Trump is going into your digital account,
and he's going to take money out of your paycheck.
I don't know if that's true.
I don't think that's legal.
Oh, yeah, it's Trump.
I think that's going to, is that what's going to happen, Jack?
I don't, you mean, they can garnish your wages.
They can't just like garnish their wages.
A little garnish, little default.
For people default, they're like, ah.
A little garnish a little parsley.
Everyone, Mrs. Biden now old sleepy Joe.
Oh, man.
He was sleepy, but he did take care of the kids who didn't want to pay their consulates.
I would kill for a guy who can't talk is asleep all the time right now to be in charge.
Oh my God.
I'd literally watch him on Instagram Reels, just sleeping.
He has cancer now.
No, he does.
Yeah, he's got prostate.
Yeah.
I think he might survive it, though, actually.
I got to start coming more.
So I don't get prostate.
That's a thing.
You have to come like 21 times a month.
Guys, this goes out to all the dudes for the podcast.
Start coming a lot.
Jerk off is shit ton.
Girls, we know you're not coming, so.
Yeah, girls aren't coming.
Your boyfriends aren't making you come.
That's a wash.
That's a wash.
So girls, too.
Everyone come.
This is 2026, the year of coming.
Porn has completely destroyed the male brain
and they can no longer make women come.
You know, I gotta tell you something.
I stopped watching porn.
Mm-hmm.
And I've, my sex drive has gone up again.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
No, it's not.
It's actually very basic human biology.
It's the least crazy thing about porn you could possibly say, I think.
Also like, you're turning me into curmudgeon.
You know what else?
I learned, I was talking about my libido.
Yeah?
Is that your new car?
No, how my libido was
I wasn't, shut the fuck up.
Why am I so funny?
Go ahead, go ahead, sorry.
You know, like I was saying, my sex story, I was down.
I went to the doctor yesterday, and I said, because of the high blood pressure.
And now my blood pressure is lower and my libido's back.
Yeah, because you can pump blood to your cock better.
I thought it was the cocaine, but it wasn't.
Well, cocaine is not as great for your blood pressure.
Well, I didn't know, but I tested it.
I did cocaine and then had sex.
And it worked.
It's so works, but yeah.
It was sick.
So shout out.
Yeah.
I got low blood pressure now, people.
I'm back.
You don't want to be too low.
I felt like such an idiot.
My fucking...
Are we going too long?
Whatever.
Oh, fucking, who cares?
It's our podcast.
I went to the...
I felt like such an idiot.
37-year-old and the nurse sat me down and said,
this is what you need to eat.
These are called vegetables.
I love vegetables.
This is called...
These are the meats you need to eat.
I really...
And I was so fascinated.
Like, lean meats.
Don't eat red meats.
Like red meat should be like...
once a week a treat for you.
Mm-hmm.
She said, no white bread.
Oh.
I fucking love white bread.
No holla?
No.
No.
No.
Oh.
That's stupid.
It's crazy how much I know.
Yeah.
Just from it.
It's also old stuff.
They also said, um...
Not even on leavened bread?
Yeah.
They also said no cheese.
I don't eat cheese.
I think that's really good.
Maybe that's why I love a salty cheese.
They said no sodium.
The sodium, the booze.
I didn't.
I have been smoking less.
Yeah, I've noticed that.
That's been helping my blood pressure.
And also...
We're going to eat cigarettes later, though, huh?
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, it's Friday night.
We've got to fucking get after it.
Friday night.
I love that it's Friday night,
and we're just going to decide to watch football at our house.
It'll be more fun than going out.
It sounds awesome.
Football.
I'm so excited.
I feel like I'm at that point where I feel more comfortable now just chilling a house.
I don't need to go outside.
That's what I...
I think that's why I was bummed out.
I'm like, I didn't really want to go out.
It was fun, though.
Because we were hanging.
It was our first really,
it was a good hang,
and we were like,
it wasn't a bunch of overwhelming,
annoying people there.
Yeah.
Then we went to Lary's,
and that got kind of weird.
That's when I got started checking out of Laries.
Yeah.
I was like,
I don't know.
I don't know.
I was fun because it was like,
I was low in there.
It was slow,
slow, chill.
Speaking of Y'all Club,
you're not going to go to Stanley Jordan later later,
later?
No,
I mean,
I don't think it's your bag.
I've played with him before.
Oh, who is he?
He's like a guitar genius.
Oh, I thought he was a sax player.
No, no, no, he's like.
What Stanley, am I thinking that's a sax player?
Oh, Stan Gats, but he died 40 years ago.
Oh, man, rest in peace.
You'd like Stan Gets, actually.
You'd like him more than Stanley Jordan.
Yeah.
He's like speaks to your soul.
It's got a very, his tone.
It's rich and calm.
So, oh, this is just like fucking guitar players
just stroking each other off.
He'll play like two guitars at the same time.
No, that sounds.
sounds a knox.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He taps and...
He's just like, everybody.
Now everyone's solo.
It might be she, actually.
I don't actually remember.
There's something...
He's playing dazzle.
He or she.
He or she.
He's a jazz.
But they do, what they do is they go
and they do like a bunch of shows, and they do like six shows in three days, and they all sell out.
Oh, wow.
Probably do a clinic while you're in town and like, you know what I mean?
That jazz world, they're like, it's like that.
You call me Jewish.
They're taking every penny they can out of these cities.
They have to.
So anyway, shout out to Amazon.
Shout out to Apple for being such nice to us.
They're kind of the devil.
Apple's better than Amazon, though.
No, they fuck with their phones,
so everyone has to get any phones every year.
But they have Apple TV to bounce that out,
which is the best streaming service.
Apple TV rules.
Every show they make.
The worst shows are still deece,
and they don't have ads during their shows.
So what we want to do today?
You don't want to put the game on the background,
just look at our phones for a couple hours?
My God, yes.
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Luckily, these guys are chill as fuck.
Wolves of Glendale.
How we do?
boys.
What's up?
Really good. How are you, man?
You know, I
have this theory that anyone who is
close to Todd Glass is actually really fucking
chill. Yep.
That's a proven theory.
Give us. I was going to say it.
Give us your one
Todd Glass story that you'll remember for the rest
of your life.
We can't. You can't an heir can to
this better than I can because I don't really know him that
well. Even an Eric, I've known him for a long time.
Yeah, we've known talks since we first.
Oh, dude. We got to
We got to get one of those.
Damn it.
That's fun.
What the fuck?
That's cool.
I'll send you the follow.
Well, let's talk about it.
We can talk about Todd.
I just,
I always,
Todd's one of my close friends and he knows,
I know how much he loves you guys.
So it makes me so proud that we're all,
you know,
mentors of that crazy fucking guy named Todd Glass.
So we'll talk about Todd later.
I want to talk about Berkeley.
Who went to Berkeley?
Raise your hand.
Also,
even an Eric.
Oh, my.
My man is just out.
What am I doing here?
Maybe I'll head out.
Can you go get some coffees?
Yeah, you guys thirsty?
Guys, before we get into the man who's from South Florida, you're from South Florida, right, bud?
That's the two of us.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
I'm fucking the whole one.
Are you up?
No, no, you're right.
No, you're doing great, actually.
It's bull's eyes.
Tell me about, you know, Berkeley kids are kind of pretentious, and you guys seem cool and funny and sweet.
Do people, were the Berkeley kids like looking at you weirdly because he wanted to make comedy music or was that the mission in Berkeley before?
Give me a little bit of your briefing of your time in Berkeley.
I could answer this, but I'd actually rather hear Eric's answer for this.
Oh, okay.
Just for my own entertainment.
Interesting pivot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, first of all, comedy music wasn't really the goal for the two of us.
when we were at Berkeley, we were like,
probably one of the pretentious kids
that went to Berkeley that were like,
we're going to be the next muse.
We are going to be in the hardest rocking band of all time,
and we're going to be with a bunch of shredders,
and it's like, where else are you going to get cool band members?
Berkeley, who are great.
You keep telling the story.
There's someone out of door,
but this is a good time for me to leave because I'm not involved.
That's true.
It actually worked out.
I wonder who that is.
Did you guys send somebody here?
Yeah, Todd. Todd's coming.
Oh, I wish Todd was coming.
Oh, he's probably asking him to someone to move his car.
So we went to Berkeley and we sort of fell into comedy music at Berkeley.
So we were, Ethan and I were in a band called Fox Trot.
Yes.
We were in a band with a bunch of killers, Andrew Sarlow, the producer of Big Thief.
And everything that has basically been good the last 10 years.
An absolute genius. Sarlow is the king.
He was our bass player, our buddy, Shawnee Moose, played guitar.
All right, thank you, Tom.
You're a sweetheart.
Tom is moving my car right now.
Tom is such a goat, dude.
I like that guy.
He's got it up.
No, he's the goat and the valet.
Tom's fully goaded.
But yeah, to finish, if I may, we started making comedy songs to promote our hard rock band's shows.
And those kind of got more traction or more people were talking about those
than the actual, like, serious music we were making from our heart and
soul.
Yeah.
And so as we left Berkeley, I think that's when we were more like, oh, maybe this is the
path.
But yeah, I mean, Berkeley was super fun.
I think we learned a lot and we were around insanely creative, gifted people.
But I think we were also outsiders and kind of like doing our own weird thing.
Yeah.
So.
And as far as pretension goes, I would say Berkeley is the least pretentious of the music schools.
Oh, okay.
Hot take.
Like Juilliard, NEC, USC, USC.
MCLA.
Manhattan School music.
I think they all have an opinion of
like what good music should be.
Yeah.
And whenever something rubs up against that,
whether it's jazz or whether it's like
a certain type of rock or I feel like
yacht rock is also like the gold standard
for a lot of like music schools.
And so I think Berkeley was actually like,
I had homework where I had to listen to the chili peppers.
Yeah.
One time.
I was like, oh, this is sick.
Why do you think it's less pretentious?
Because no one graduates.
They just get what they get from it.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, that could be part of it is that people are hoping to leave school.
So it's not like they have like the biggest school pride, probably, or take it.
Yeah.
Super serious.
It's like the goal is like, I got to leave.
I'm doing too much cool stuff.
I'm so successful.
Yeah, or like, the joke was like if you graduated, you failed.
Right, right.
Because you didn't get a, you know, a record deal or something.
But if Berkeley's listening and they want us to come and, you know, give a talk about how to write songs about a guy who vapes and eats people, like, we're down for that.
Or forgive our students.
loans? Oh my god, Berkeley. Come on in.
They ain't going to do that. It's how a Trumpie's going
to take it out of your paycheck these days.
I couldn't believe that shit. I heard on the news
that starting this year they're going to take it out of your paycheck
without fucking...
It's bullshit. I don't know. I think everything that's going on
is good and cool and I have no complaints
and I feel like, yeah,
I just think things are good and I'm hopeful for the future
for sure. Our guy won. Get over it.
Yeah. Do you think...
I'm phone for him again. Do you think...
Do you think...
What was you feeling like
when you realized your comedy stuff
was getting more plugged
than your actual rock stuff.
At first, what was it at first setting?
Were you pissed off?
Or was like, hey, whatever works works?
Or like, it was like kind of like.
No, we were thrilled and we were already doing it anyways.
You know, it's like we were making stupid videos
and stupid songs and stuff.
And it wasn't, you know, an A to B.
I'm kind of like shrinking together other years
of working awful jobs and stuff like that.
But it's like over time, I think we just realized
we can take comedy seriously and that's okay
and not just be
the next radio head or whatever
and a lot of people's like
and a lot of people's like pipe dream
this will never work out thing is music
so for us we were like well
we've been professional musicians since we were 13
and always doing music so like that's our goal
and that's our dream we were like we could
never do comedy that would be
someone else that's like the real dream
job that like is a pipe dream
so the fact that like that sort of worked out in our favor
because we had spent all these years
getting good at music.
And now people were like,
oh, that's actually your comedy music superpower.
We were like, oh, shit.
We actually kind of set ourselves up perfectly
for this actual dream job.
Yeah, it's like even more fun.
So when did you, so things are starting to pop off.
Were you called the Cooties back then?
Or was it, what was that?
We were.
That was our first comedy band.
That's correct.
Which is a good, by the way, segue,
if you're trying to get there to Tom.
Exactly.
If you get to talk to Tom.
He had to fucking do a parking.
What's up Tom?
Welcome to show, Big Dog.
Valet, Tom.
Ballet Tom, Tom, Tom.
Valet Tom.
Valet Tom.
Are you going to tip him on Vembo?
You hit me up.
You'll be there in 20 minutes to move your car.
Make sure you tip.
So tell us, Tom.
So how did you guys meet these guys?
So speaking of the Cooties, someone tagged a Cootie song.
And one of my songs, I was making solo musical comedy stuff in New York for four or so years before I found the Kuwaiter.
They tagged a cootie song in one of my songs in a Spotify wrapped.
And then I found the cooties and I was blown away by their musicianship and it's rare that you find someone in comedy music that can actually play.
Concord's Tenacious D. Bo Burnham or like the only other three acts that I can think of easily beyond the cooties that were like, oh my God, these are like great tunes.
They're well written songs that are fucking so dumb.
and right away I DMed both of them
and I was just like hey man I love what you guys are doing
I think it's really rare in the musical comedy space
I'm trying to do the same thing if you ever want to grab a coffee
in L.A. I was living in South Florida at the time ironically
during the pandemic and then fast forward to October 2021
I end up moving out and I land five minutes down the road in Glendale
from Ethan I saw 13 apartments and the 13th was in Glendale
and we were already in touch yeah yeah we hung out a few times
I came out for a job the May before that for about a week or two,
and we hung out, wrote a tune together, Fast Friends.
What was the first tune you guys wrote together?
First tune was Red Panda, I believe,
which was a song, just a fun song about how Red Pandas are cool as hell
and more people should know about them.
I love a simple premise.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
And it kind of sounded like drinking problem for when I remember.
That was like the reference, which by Midlands, a great song.
Oh, that's a great song, actually.
Yeah, but then so, yeah, I mean, I at the same time, the cooties were ending, and Eric and I actually made the decision, like, we're never making a comedy band again.
We're out.
It's too hard.
So what happened?
We did it for five years.
What was the downfall?
Like, on that year five, what were you guys feeling?
It was just tough.
It was just a lot of work, and we were, I think, doing a lot of work outside of the band to just survive.
And it just felt like, you know, we got to do other stuff.
We wanted to, you know, write scripts and direct and act.
and we were just like, we're going to do other things.
And then literally like three weeks later, I started hanging out with Tom.
And I was like, we should probably get Eric in here.
And so I hit up Eric.
And I was like, I know we just said never a comedy band again.
But I think comedy band, because Tom actually is good at comedy band and wants to make comedy band.
Yeah.
So when Tom came to the mix, I believe in fate like that.
When life is kind of like pushing you, there's always that one thing that if you say yes,
to it, it might take you on
into a completely different path.
Maybe that was Tom for your friendship.
Dude, yeah.
The story of our band, I think, is all serendipity.
And I fully believe in like little decisions
that can like shape the course of what you're doing.
I love the crunchy shit.
And there are so many twists and turns that this band has taken
that are like, the stars had to be perfectly aligned
for this shit to work.
Yeah.
And it continues.
to pan out that way.
To trace back retroactively all the little things that have led to this moment is really
fun and pretty wild.
Yeah, and fortuitous in the sense that like when the three of us got together, we wrote
vaping in Vegas the first day, like in the first hour.
And we were like, oh, my God.
Like, not only do we have this like very similar musical taste, but we have like pretty
much the exact same comedy tastes.
like it has to like work on so many levels
for three people in their
three people in their 30s to start a band
and for it to like work
and two guys kind of bitter
two guys kind of bitter at that point
to actually open like the fucking
the vessel I mean
another comedy band yeah
that's very fascinating
think about if you would have just called
Tom a groupie and hung up on him
you know and didn't say hey
that could have changed the path to something else
you know but like
it was also because
We were fans of Tom and very much respected what he was doing.
You know, there was a mutual admiration there for sure.
So Tom, tell me about your past life before this.
Yeah, I thought I was going to be a theater kid.
I went to theater school and then I moved to New York to pursue musical theater stuff.
And after a full year of auditioning, I realized that I kind of sucked at it.
I don't really have the voice for it.
I can't dance.
Great dancer, by the way.
That's just he's being modest.
I believe you.
Yeah, good at dancing.
He has the elegance of a ballet dancer.
Right, yeah, like Fred Astaire and his prime, if he was an idiot.
And after a year, I literally, like, didn't book a single job, and I was feeling depressed in New York, and I just decided to start making...
It was when Snapchat was still kind of popular.
It was, like, 2016, and I was making sketches that I would share on Facebook, and now I'm really fucking dating the time.
And all of my friends immediately were like, dude, this is...
is funny. You should do more of these things. And I felt fulfilled in a way that the theater stuff
had not brought to me at that point. And I kept doing it and very naturally, because music has
always been a huge part of my life. When I was in New York, I was working as a dueling piano
players, just playing cover gigs. And I grew up playing covers. So musical comedy felt like a very
natural crossroads, like two years into me making comedy sketches. And then that very quickly
became the thing that I was trying to figure out
how to make into a career while I was playing
cover gigs. I was like, that's what I want my future to be.
And I moved to L.A. specifically to find a comedy band.
And I told my girlfriend at the time, I was like,
if I can find a band like the cooties, I'll be happy.
That's like the only thing that I want to do.
I swear to God, dude.
And you legit found the fucking cooties, dude.
That's what I mean. It's crazy, man.
The way it lined up is wild.
Well, it's the power of saying yes.
boys we could always just like say no say no to everything but if we just like it's like the same
thing i i craigslist musicians for the first six years of my my career i've been doing 250 shows a
year for 15 years now if i would have just found that la band and realize they all wanted to move on
to disney be disney musicians you know like for like Sabrina carpenters and stuff i wouldn't have
found the jam scene i wouldn't have found blues i wouldn't have found my vision it's but
It's like your sweatshirt says it all.
It's just keep going and keep saying yes.
Because if we don't doing that, then we're just our,
if we stop when our dreams get hard,
then we're not trying to give it its full potential, right?
I completely agree with you.
I do think it was weird that you paid Tom $1,000 to wear that.
And like didn't offer Eric or I any options or whatever.
but yeah spiritually philosophically I totally I'm with you yeah so so let's talk about some
some band drama what about what happened with Jacob Jeffries oh here we go bro the first
podcast interview that anyone's ever asked that question oh god thank you money bro that's awesome yeah
nothing really happened dude we just wanted different things and I think that is what came
to pass like very again beautifully serendipitously like you know Jacobs in Wolfpack
And that's, like, exactly what he should be doing because he's so nasty.
He's nasty songwriter, nasty vocalist.
And so it's like, I think that's always what he's wanted is to be more in that kind of creative endeavor.
And Eric and I, unfortunately, are truly seven years old morons.
So it's like, we, for whatever reason, need to, like, make songs about, you know, a curse where a bird is going to shit on you.
And we're like, this is fulfilling.
Yeah.
I think the three of us were sort of at odds with like what we wanted out of the band.
And I'm super proud of everything we did.
You know, we sold a TV pilot.
We got to play Conan.
We did JFL.
We did a whole bunch of amazing stuff.
Yeah.
That like I'm really proud of that led us here.
And also Jacob's like our oldest friend like from South Florida.
We know I've known him since I was 15 years old.
So it's like I think unfortunately we broke up, which sucks.
But I think it led to us doing.
exactly what we all wanted to do.
Yeah.
Was there any animosity in the beginning years?
I think.
Of the Coonies?
I'm just trying to get some dirt.
I was just trying to get some dirt.
I was going to say, we're kind of in the beginning years still.
I think we're in like year three right now.
It's like this, I don't know.
I think of this in a way when I'm hearing your story is you guys always wanted to be this serious band.
He breaks out to be in this serious band.
Like in our brains, we kind of feel like even if we don't want to, even if we want to be
comedians or be our own
thing, in my head I'd be like
man, fuck this guy.
You know what I'm saying?
But it was never like that?
No, no, no.
All right, cool. Oh, boring.
Damn. You just broke up like civil
Can you lie for a clip?
We feel that way towards each other, for sure.
Like, Eric and I are like, dude, fuck this guy.
Get out of my fucking face. I don't want to hear
shit from you. Go get me a coffee.
It's a shine box.
Not conducive for songwriting or like fun?
No, it's tough.
It's tough.
Was it intimidating Tom to join the band after that?
I specifically remember being in the room.
Yeah, I know.
It's funny.
I love it.
Were you nervous?
Andy Stern.
Andy, dude, I love it.
Yeah.
No one has ever asked those questions.
Well, you know, it's a different.
You both play the same instrument, right?
Correct. Yeah.
And you know, it's like coming into a thing where he's like goaded.
And you're goaded too.
You know, I'd be, I'd be insecure going into a band because you're a goat too, Tom, you're dope.
You have your own fucking thing.
You probably got a big hog too.
So like, let's like.
Thank you, bro.
I know.
I think it's a band.
You can tell.
I think it's a band of kind of spiritually small hogs.
You know what I mean?
I think all three of us are coming together being like, I think you're really great, man.
Do you want to hear my stupid shit?
I suck, dude, I suck.
You're not going to like this.
But they combine into one big, massive hog.
I think, yeah, because once Tom joined the band,
it felt like the pieces all came together, right?
Yeah, I mean, it's not unlike, you know,
a basketball team or even like the Eagles or something like that
where it's like, hey, man, you were here for a while,
and then you got traded somewhere else, and it's all good.
And then this guy comes in, you know, who's fucking amazing
amazing and makes our team even better, you know?
Yeah.
Well, I'm happy you guys feel that way
Because sometimes I get pissed off
About band members joining other bands
I got bigger than me
So it's very territorial man
Just stay I'm trying to take my aggression out on you
When I should be going to therapy
Is there anything you'd like to get off your chest?
Yeah, fuck this guy Sean Eccles
No, I'm just gonna just
You guys want to interview Andy for a little bit
Help him out
Okay, I went to school with the guy named Sean Eccles
Let's call him up
Let's call him up
He's a very successful oral surgeon
and Andy hates his guts
I don't know why you don't like Sean Andy
I love that guy
It's a very different Sean for sure
So tell me your approach of how you
You're about blowing up online
Was it strategic or were you just trying to make good content
Hmm
See another thing of where
Fully goaded on his own
Comes into the band
I will say that was a very weak spot of the cooties
In that we were a band
For five years
We did all that great shit
but we never hit more than 5,000 Instagram followers.
And that was part of a thing of just like,
we think we're good.
Why isn't this clicking with the outside world?
And that, besides being a great songwriter,
a great vocalist, a great piano player,
Tom knows how to do that on his own,
and he did it himself.
And so we very much followed him into the fire of like,
let's try what works.
And he knew how to like make it digestible.
Maybe you can talk more about that, Tom.
Tell me your philosophy.
Give me your game plan.
Tell me what's the blueprint.
Here's my take on all this.
And as nice as I think it is for you to say that,
I firmly believe that success on social media just happens to,
it has to do with how good the shit that you're making is.
And there are some things that you can think about.
But in all of the things that I've tried by myself,
together with the band,
that the reason why we were able to gain 100,000, 150,000 followers in our first year as a band
has very little to do with my insider strategy knowledge, and it is everything to do with what
we're able to make together.
And it's simply about like the thing that you're making, if it's quality, I think it'll go.
People get so lost in the weeds of like, what day do I post?
What time do I post?
How many times should I post a week over the course of a year?
And I think that there is some validity to consistency, but time and time again, if the thing is
good and you usually know
in your heart and your gut if the thing that you've made is like
good and fun and true to you
it'll go, it'll find its people
and I think the things that we were making
in the beginning were really stupid
parodies of popular songs
and those are the things that broke
us at first and it's just because
they were funny to us and they're funny to other people.
I would also say the
consistency took a ramp
up because before we were never
posting with any sort of regularity
or quality control or anything
and then when we started Wolves of Glendale,
it was a very active decision of like,
if we're going to do a comedy band for the second time
and we're all three going to take our time and get together,
we need to treat this like a business
and get like corporate about it and get organized.
And I just thought that spoke to your skills as well.
You came to the table when you were like, great,
I love organization, I love that we're going to be on a schedule.
Here's the type of stuff I think we could make.
And then you're right, we'd get together
and we'd work on something we thought was really quality.
Yeah, and then just an experiment.
Yeah, it just trash it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I feel like that's like half of the hurdle, which is just getting over your ego and your pride.
And like if something bombs, then it's like it does not matter.
It's not a failure other than like it didn't perform well.
So now you adjust and change.
Yeah.
No, that's what's one thing thankful of a like a close friend of yours and he's our business partner, Jack.
Jack Gould taught us.
I mean, he's saved my life and my whole thing.
Instead of like throwing shit out of a wall, be strategic about what shit you're throwing at the wall.
You know?
Like have a focused.
idea, see, study it, be part of the process, and it makes the content completely so much better.
And that's what kind of reminds me of like when you're starting to write these songs and
you're kind of playing them live, when do you finally approach recording it, like online?
Do you, how many times, how many times you kind of like fine tune the song until you feel
it's right? Until you feel the beats of like when the laughs are hitting.
Like, tell me about your play-by-play before you start making, recording it.
Or do you just go record it first and then play it and play it and play it?
No, we're very fortunate in that we live in L.A.
And we have lots of stand-up friends and comedy friends.
And so we'll write something and we'll go perform it later that night, like at a club or at a night where we get a 10-minute set.
And we hear where the laughs are like a stand-up.
And then if things hit, then we go great.
We don't need to change that.
And then if they don't, then we go back to the drawing board.
What I will say, funny enough, that our second album cycle, we just finished recording the second album,
it was the first time where we didn't do that.
We did that with maybe three tracks that are going to make the record.
But the rest of it were, if we were 80% comedy act, 20% band in the first year,
I would say it has swung the other way.
I think that we're viewing our trajectory more so like a band in the sense that we're going to drop an album
and then promote those tunes
instead of like auditioning a lot of them live.
I think it took us a full album cycle
in the first three years to like find our voice
and give us the confidence that we can record 13 tracks
and we know that we're like happy to share them
without auditioning them.
Right. Because I, there's a chance
that if we did play some of the songs that we've written
they might still change but we're not going to do that.
I agree. I think it was only because we spent two years
testing out songs and seeing reactions of audience
and what works and playing so many shows
that with this album we felt more confident
that we're like, yeah, this one's good,
this one's good, let's just try to make the best songs possible.
And yeah, I mean, I think social media stuff
is kind of a similar thing where we're just like,
yeah, I think this is a funny idea, let's put it out
and see what happens.
Yeah, like one of the songs on our next record,
I finished a book, is one that we only wrote a chorus of.
The title is a song.
Yeah, and it went.
And so we're like, okay, now let's record the full song.
And that's what we did.
And last thing I'll say about that,
this is another fun strategy.
If we're talking about a strategy,
a social media strategy,
in terms of like using energy effectively,
we can write a hook just a chorus
and make a short form video for that
and put it up.
And if it goes,
that's like data that we can take and say,
hey, people vibe with this.
Let's flesh it out
into a three and a half minute tune.
Exactly.
That's really smart.
Yeah.
This is, dude,
let's fucking go, boys.
I'm clapping for you.
I love this.
I fucking love this.
Oh yeah.
I love this.
Let's hang out.
Go heat.
Does comedy songwriters get pussy?
That's my next question.
Do you get groupies?
You have a girlfriend, boyfriend.
Do you get dick?
What's the...
Oh, he's married.
Loser!
Okay, married.
Nerd.
Nerd.
I'm not even hearing your locker room talk.
You disgusting boys.
I love...
No, but like, yeah, I was like,
I was like, I was like,
crazy stalker fans.
You have people who don't agree
with the song you're pushing.
Nothing like...
Bro, we have just like the...
nicest, sweetest, coolest fans in the world.
I think we're very lucky there that the people that like us are into just like niche
geek stuff.
And so they're just like very sweet, very polite, very shy.
Yeah.
It's very cool.
We get a lot of people who are like, this was my first concert.
I'm 29 years old.
Like come to, and we're like, what are you talking about your first?
It's like, yeah, I'm too anxious to go outside.
But I feel safe coming to like one of your shows because I have a feeling that the, you know,
the audience that likes this is like really supportive and positive.
cool. And like even after
shows, the staff usually comes
up to one of us and says like, your fans
were the nicest, most respectful, perfect
crowd ever. They'll literally make friends
at the shows. Like people will come to shows and be like, oh, I'm coming with
Stephanie who I met at your other show. That sounds like a jam band a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Similar vibe.
Yeah. So tell me, you know,
I went, I went on tour with Kyle Gas,
and I heard your story about you guys with Tenacious Dee.
Hey.
Let's clap for Kyle.
He doesn't get enough love.
He kind of does it.
You're right.
Jack gets a most of love and Kyle should be getting the fucking love.
He's a ripping guitar player too.
So tell us about your story of how tenacious.
One of the first real champions of our band.
Yeah, that's why I wanted to hear.
Tell the story of how Tenacious Dee found you guys and took you on tour and that whole thing.
Well, I got a call from our buddy John Spiker who just produced our,
our album.
Hey, can we hear it for John Spiker?
This guy's a legend for John.
Thank you.
I love you.
Tell me what a clap, boys.
I'll clap for you.
Yeah, I like it.
We've got 14 people in the back on a mic.
This was during the
Omicron years of COVID.
And he asked,
he was reuniting train wreck,
his solo band.
And so they asked me to be the drummer
for basically like six tours,
And they all got canceled because of COVID.
And so we basically spent six months rehearsing together at the D space with me and Kyle and John.
And basically all of Tenacious D minus Jack.
And it was interesting because this was sort of like at the end of the Cooties and during the beginning of the Wolves of Glendale.
And I remember after a rehearsal talking with Jack and Kyle just being like, I don't know.
Like should I start a comedy band you guys?
You know?
And they were like, yeah, you should do that.
You know, because we were talking with Tom,
and I was like, I don't know if I want to do this again.
And they were like, yes, you must.
And so Kyle definitely saw the birth of Wolfe.
He came to our first shows.
Yeah.
He came to everything.
And then I think it was about nine months later
when they were announcing those Vegas shows that he had seen us enough times
and was such a supporter that he asked us to open for him.
It was like unreal.
So what was it like your first moment with these guys?
I mean, is it kind of your idols?
Like, what was the first moment?
Like, were you nervous?
Was, uh, what?
Yes.
Tell us everything.
Yeah, absolute inner, inner panic for sure.
It's crazy.
One of the first moments.
It's fucking insane, dude.
It's your idols, dude.
It's crazy.
No, we were playing like fucking canters before that.
We were literally playing in a deli and then fucking, we go to Vegas.
We're playing two nights New Year's.
It's like 4,000 seat theater.
And at Sound Check, I remember, I think that was the first time.
Yeah.
we saw Jack or one of the first times.
Yeah.
And they were just going, like, so hard at Soundcheck,
like, as if it was just a full-blown concert show.
And then, yeah, they just both were just so complimentary
and so supportive of us.
And it was just a really, yeah, kind of, like, world-shattering thing.
And I should shout out Reggie Watts, who came and did, like,
an improv solo during one of our songs, Planetarium Dump.
So, go check it out.
So sick.
Great titles.
But thank you so much.
But yeah, I mean, that's just for me.
You know, let the guy speak.
But like, it was definitely like, I cannot believe this is happening.
I cannot believe this is happening.
We're such a baby band also.
And it was just like, you know, we had friends come out and family come out.
It was just like the most fun thing.
Yeah.
Good to hang out in the fucking Virgin Hotel.
We pull up our names on the side of the building.
It was great.
I'll never forget that, man.
Yeah.
It was like such a crazy.
That was month nine of us being a band.
Oh my God.
It's fucking insane, dudes.
It's crazy, man.
It's like not, it's not lost on any of us how rare that opportunity is.
And I think it just goes back to the serendipity, like the nature of you being in the train wreck shit when we were kind of getting started.
And kudos to Kyle.
Yes.
Thank you, Rage Gage.
Like, we played Netflix as a joke fest May 2023, which is two months after we formed as a band.
And when we got that gig, we only had two songs.
And they were like, can you play a half hour?
And we were like, yeah, no problem.
And so we were like, okay, we have.
a month to write three songs and polish five songs.
And we did.
And then we got there and we played those songs the first time.
And Cage, like, after the set comes up to the stage and is very aware that, like,
an endorsement from Kyle Gass as a comedy band is a big deal.
And he, like, you know, took some pictures and had his hands up and got the crowd going.
And it's like, that's so cool.
It was awesome.
And in Vegas, Jack did a very similar thing where he took the time to, like, come to the green room and hang out.
He was so nice.
he like gave us an endorsement and it was just like the kings of comedy rock are like you know
yeah yeah it's great anointing yeah i mean Kyle flew out to our show in ohio because he saw
us play in l.A came out in ohio and i couldn't believe because we're all such i mean we're all
say maize how old do you guys 30 30-thirty 27 22 22 22 okay very nice yeah uh yeah so
i mean those are those are our idols growing
up, you know?
22.
Oh, my God.
Anyway,
no, for sure, bro.
It was crazy.
I'd like to talk about that movement
from going from that,
what's that bar at canters?
That's right next door to the canters.
Give it's room.
Give it true.
Yeah.
To playing this 5,000 cap room,
what were the growing pains of getting
your beats on for your set,
for your shows?
like go through your set a little bit,
that first show playing for that many people.
Like talk about how you thought you were going to approach a set
and how you could take it differently now thinking about it.
Well, what's funny is, it's a really great question
because we did two nights with them.
And none of us had seen Tenacious Steve before live, I don't think.
And so we definitely had a game plan.
We had like a few months of roll up for the gig.
we put together what we thought would be like the best set
of all time.
Also, we only had fucking seven songs.
So it's like, we knew what we were playing.
And it was like a 30 minute set, you know?
So it was like...
Five tunes.
Yeah.
So, but we were like, all right, we're going to go out there
and we're going to fucking come for the face.
And then we played our first night.
And I would say it was pretty good.
The sound also was bad in our defense.
Our monitors weren't working right.
So we weren't hearing proper sound.
But we weren't.
We thought it was fine.
You know, we did our jobs and the audience seemed to really enjoy it and we were like,
all right, you know, feel pretty good about that, whatever.
But then...
And then we saw Tenacious D. go on stage and, you know, I'd like to think that we're,
like, we're very competent musicians and can play, you know.
So it's not like they were necessarily like light years, just playing shit that we could
never play.
But the energy and the K-Fabe and the pro-Ressling.
attitude of I'm playing in front of 5,000 people.
I need to be the rock right now.
Energetically, I need to be big.
And we saw them do that.
And we were like, oh, shit.
Like our heads exploded.
And then the next night, we learned from them be fucking huge and big.
And the crowd loved it the second night.
It was way better.
Yeah.
Isn't it crazy?
Like, those little mannerisms can win over.
Because it's like, we went on a tour with Burke Kreischer.
and like I was just playing acoustic for a little bit for open the set and I saw the difference between when I went a little more exaggerated like it was my rock show versus I was timid like I was supposed to play that role of the fucking songwriter thing and I saw the difference in the crowd because like playing for these fucking amphitheaters isn't very comedy-esque or isn't comedy appropriate you know like it's comedy's better when it's like you could feel the energy in the room so it's you have to.
approach it a lot differently. And you guys being fucking dope musicians, you have to,
you think of both, you have to think of both sides of it, right? You got to play good and be funny.
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How did you enjoy opening for a
comic. I liked it. I thought it was, I thought I got, my goal was not to be funny. You know,
my goal was to play the good songs, approach it, because, you know, I'm not trying to do some
low-hanging fruit. I'm a musician. So, like, they're not expecting me to be funny. I got a
couple of jokes in there, but I didn't want, I didn't want to step on anyone's toes. Like,
my job was to play the songs that Bert loved, yada, yada, and approach it differently.
But the first time I did that, I opened for, I scored Gary Goldman's. I scored Gary Goldman.
Wilman's HBO Depress, Great Depression.
And we played, we played, I played the Wilbur and I tried to be funny and I fucking
bombed.
I'm like, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never doing that fucking getting.
I'm just going to play the songs, play the meaningful songs.
And so like, it's funny how, I mean, you got to kind of put your dick out there, no pun intended,
to fucking, like your first night of the show, like, oh, you don't know what to do.
And then you saw these fucking rock stars kick the fucking door down.
You're like, oh, that's where I could take this thing.
And then so from there, you're like, anything's possible.
So has there been, can you tell us among any shows where you've, like, bombed?
What was a hard bomb?
I remember we played Silver Lake Lounge once.
Oh, that was it, dude.
And I will say, I'm proud to say that we haven't actually bombed a lot.
And I was mostly because we're playing music.
So it's like, if we're, if it's not going over, well, we're still just a band playing a song.
You know, right, right.
And we have each other, which is like another cheat code.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah, you guys have weird.
When you're up there with your boys,
your boys, you got everybody.
Almost like an improv group or something where it's like, wow, we are dying,
but we're dying together.
And we can look at each other and laugh and be like, this is not going over well.
Sometimes I will say it's like some of my favorite stuff when the audience is not fully with us.
And then we get the ability to take jokes further than we normally would just because now we're just,
doing it for ourselves.
Yeah.
It's like,
they're not going to get it,
but if I can break Ethan
or if I can break Eric,
then like this is a win of a show.
The show is going to,
it's going to be fun to play.
Yeah.
I think the trick with us sometimes
is,
especially with a comedy band,
it's like you have to be able
to hear the lyrics.
And if you're not in a room
that's not conducive
for you to hear lyrics,
like,
it's going to be rough.
Like, I remember the other time,
we played like a house party.
I was just going to say
Red Show and Blue Show.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this is the first, and this is a great idea for a show.
It's called Red Show Blue Show, two separate rooms on the property.
One is the Red Room, one's the Blue Room.
All of the comics play both rooms.
And when you get there, you have to pick a room to commit to the whole time.
And at the end, you come together as a whole party and vote on which room was the hotter room.
And we were asked.
That is cool.
Dude, it is.
The show rules.
They've done it a bunch.
It's an amazing show run by really funny guys.
They asked us to play the kickoff part.
outside on the patio for our set to be after the final judgment of which room wins.
Oh, shit.
For whatever.
We didn't have the foresight to know that like people were just going to treat that like a house
party at that point.
They've been drinking for two hours.
Just saw two comedy shows.
Yeah.
We're outside.
And so we start and again, like Eric said, like it's vital that you're like listening
to our tunes to get the jokes.
We start playing and immediately people start talking and treat us as if we're like
wallpaper playing covers.
Yes.
for like somebody's nephew's band
Yeah
And the host were so
They felt so I still see Tommy
And he's still like
I have nightmares about red show blue show
Oh sorry
It was raining and then there was like a tarp
Over this thing
But it was leaking
So there was like
It was like water torture
Like yeah
It was crazy
It was rough dude
You're getting water boarded
While people are just fucking shitting on you
Yeah
That's crazy dude
Oh my yeah
It's all about the right
I mean for what you're doing
That's why like
Controlled space
You know like
That's why it's got to be so hard to play these fucking amputers opening
where people are walking in, getting their beers,
sitting down, talking to their friends.
You've got to really know how to zip them up or zip them in.
And that's like, another question is,
what's your take on, like, kind of like low-hanging fruit,
like being vulgar or cussing?
And what's your approach on that when you're, when you're wanting?
I think we try not to go to, yeah, like, sexual or vulgar, you know.
And I think also,
we try not to curse but we do curse in the songs and I think that's because a lot of times it's just like
that's the funnier move yeah we can break it if somebody can beat it and think of something funnier
than like I'm all you know we're all down with it but yeah you know a well-placed fuck is like really
hard to beat that's true right it's tough yeah you know but we are going to do and we've done it
for a few of the songs like clean versions of the songs because there are people that listen with
their kids and stuff and they're always like oh thank you for releasing a clean version but we
definitely don't lean on it. We don't try to.
Yeah. And, yeah, I think it's just whatever's funniest.
Yeah, that's it. And also, with low-hanging fruit, it's like, I think we're all quick
to be like, I've seen that before, I've heard this before. Well, I think we're always searching
for kind of a fresh take on something. Yeah, we definitely don't want to step on anybody else's
toes. And I think we all intake so much comedy and music that usually it's one of us,
it's like, uh, that's a little too much like this bit or this, you know, this, you know, this,
answer this song, let's move away from it.
And there's always something else.
Yeah, or like just, uh, we sometimes
we call it, Hey Girl musical comedy,
which is I feel like a lot of like,
musical comedy of like cheesy musical comedy of the past
has been like, hey girl kind of stuff.
Right.
Digging a box.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Dick in a box or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly, yeah.
Well, digging a box is great.
I love that, but it's always copying that now.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, yes.
That's exactly.
Worst versions of when those things are really good.
Exactly.
Now I regret asking you.
if you guys get pussy on the roof.
Sorry about that, boys.
Sorry about that.
They're good boys.
I would love to know what your ideal day on the road looks like.
Cocaine, hookers,
10 shots of fucking Jameson.
Anxiety.
Can I talk about?
No water.
Tom actually one time got,
Tom got Venmoed once while we were on stage of the Virgil.
and that was a first.
When we were first coming up
and he, you know,
you just,
we started doing stuff
and we're like, man,
this is like jacked handsome guys
in our band.
I think we're all going to be
swimming in it pretty soon.
Wouldn't you say?
Yeah,
I remember after the show,
Tom looks at his own Venmo
and some girl Venmoed him $5.
He goes,
here's my number and here's $5.
Like,
will you go on a day with me?
I'm telling me.
I forgot about that.
Tom got that big hog energy.
He's like,
I'm telling you.
That's a big hog energy.
It's like,
Where can I go for $5?
Yeah.
That was funny.
That was hilarious.
But for 50, he does go on dates.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, I'm in a very happy long-term relationship.
I will date someone for 50 bucks.
50 bucks.
First date.
Pretty tax.
Well, what I'll say is that, like, our, another reason why I think it works very well is that none of us are like super heavy drinkers.
We're not like.
No blow, no nothing.
No blow, no nothing.
Like, when we pull up to a hotel and they have a Peloton and the gym,
We're like, yes, bro.
Yeah.
This is going to rule.
Like, dude, a whole hoopin's hot bar.
Yeah, going to a whole play.
There's a smoothie place here by.
You know what's porn or something?
Anything?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got a little bit.
You got gambling at it.
You got you're bending on some horse races.
What do you got?
Something?
We do like to gamble.
I will say one of the greatest moments of, uh, of the Vegas trip.
I remember it was like two in the morning.
And I'm smoking a cigarette playing blackjack with cage.
Oh, yeah.
And, uh,
I was like, this, this is the life.
His hair going crazy.
I'm a degenerate gambler.
I think I like smoking more than I like gambling, but I do love cigarette.
Yeah, when Eric says gambling, that's like the one time in two or three years that we're gambling.
But I think we like the idea of gambling.
And it's like, I like to play poker for $20.
I play cards.
I could quit blow.
I could quit my sex addiction.
I could quit all this stuff.
But cigarette, God damn.
There's something about a cigarette after a show, dude.
It's the best.
I know.
Post-show sick.
I get into hand-rolling, unfortunately.
That's how I feel about burritos.
Honestly, that's our band vice is food.
Food.
Like, there we go.
Like, especially when we go on tour, like, we just go, like, not like, hey, what's
around here, it goes, what's the most delicious thing you could possibly put in your body?
And if it's not good, we're going to be pissed and we're coming for you.
Yeah.
You ever get food poison before a show?
Oh, my God.
No, not yet.
Let's knock on wood.
We don't want that.
We don't want that evil.
Have you?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, could have been food.
I crowd surf all the time.
I crowd surf all, I crowd surf all the time.
And I always get, I always crowd serve
dick down.
And I'm getting punched in the dick in my stomach.
And one time I almost, I almost shat myself on the crowd.
It was like bad.
It was like a watery shit.
I've never even heard of this one.
Because it's embarrassing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, I had to hold my butt cheeks until I got brought back from the stage.
Because I was like squirting all over my leg.
I think you're censoring.
I think you're censoring.
I think you're censoring.
the real story, which is that you did shit
on the audience. I definitely shit on the audience.
I was wearing pants. I was wearing pants.
So funny if you tried to blame someone else.
You're the only one above us.
Who shat on me?
Who shat on?
Who shir was the guy above us?
Who shat on? I'm getting shot on too.
I don't know who it is.
God, I could talk to guys forever.
I got two more questions.
I want to talk about your new show, Iron Songwriter.
But before we do that,
you know, we talk about Weird Al.
Weird Al is one of the greatest.
Oh, right.
Comedy, music.
He's the Paul McCartney, right?
Of comedy music?
Is he the Paul McCartney probably?
Pretty much.
I mean, is he the Beethoven?
I don't know.
He's a great musician, too, not just like a funny guy.
Who would be your Mount Rushmore for music comedy?
Wow.
J-R-R-R-R-R-L.
Hell yeah.
Dutty.
No, intentional.
It's got to be intentional comedy.
Did he three times in J-R-R-R-G.
You know what's pretty funny?
Who's a dirtback, R. Kelly.
Trapped in the closet, was in the cell.
Oh, my God.
And that's right there.
And then there was.
It was a midgett, midget.
Yeah.
It was a midget.
Trapped in a closet was like, that was a, in high school.
That was, I had never seen anything like that.
We should honestly do something like that.
A 33 chapter.
Yes.
Like Super long dramatic narrative.
Trapped in the closet.
He did rivalry.
We probably will eventually.
Dude,
try something like that.
Yeah.
What I loved about it, you know, I didn't love the man, but what I loved about
trapped in the closet was the arc.
The same arc.
Yes.
In the song.
It was this climax.
It's incredible.
I thought that was.
brilliant. And like, I was still
entertained after the 33rd episode.
I was like, there was a
preacher, there was a preacher
fucking, who got gay, you know?
It's like a lot of things going on there.
It's amazing. We're all, we're
just five guys that all agree R. Kelly is
amazing. Yeah, let's say it. Let's call it what it is.
I haven't found anything I don't
like about him yet. Let's clap for R. Kelly. Let's
you clap for Rkelly.
And quip this. They did
some guy stuff and now he's a bad guy
for doing guy stuff. He pees on one person.
I'm just kidding.
You can't do guys stuff with your friends anymore.
I'll delete that for you.
Okay, so tell us about your Mount Rushmore.
Tell us about your comedy Mount Rushmore.
Comedy music, honestly, when you were naming comedy music people before,
the one that lit up in my mind was Ilvis.
I feel like they don't get enough love, and they should be on the Rushmore.
Like, I think their songs are just such incredible songs that I want to re-listen to.
L-V-V-I-S-I-L-E-V-E-V-E-V-S.
Is my nomination.
People know them as the, what does the Fox say?
But there's so much deeper and, you know, legendary.
Yeah.
I think I've got mine.
If we're going for four for Mount Rush Rock.
Do it four each?
It would be weird out, boat burn them.
I have to go Tenacious D.
I have to.
Got it.
And if there's four, I think that only because it's personal, it would have to be Concourse,
flight of the Concourse.
Oh, yeah.
Elvis.
Because when I found Elvis, I was like, oh, this exists.
overseas as well like that's quality over there too but those four for me like shaped
the reason why I want to do this um god you look so familiar are you in that other comedy
group from NYU the the girl there's a girl who plays and they're dancing there's a piano
player and a drummer no glass played did the type a dynasty typewriter with them to shit um
oh do two tree hill two tree yes yes yeah yeah those guys do fucking rule dude yeah yeah yeah
Tudry Hill are great.
They're also mutual friends.
That's what I thought.
They borrowed a guitar of mine for that dynasty show.
Oh, yeah.
You guys were on that dynasty show too?
No, no, they borrowed a guitar for that show.
Oh, that's so funny.
But they're in New York and they're good dudes.
And yeah, them and Rose, who they perform with for that show.
I'm about to jazz.
Don't stop.
I'm about the jazz.
I went to that.
That shit was fucking hilarious.
And they had all the musicians or the comedians, like, improv with them.
It was killer.
That's cool.
Yeah, Veronica did a tune with them.
Our buddy Josh Harmon was on drums for that show
as an unbelievable comedy drummer.
Yeah, good dudes.
Good dudes.
That's awesome.
All right, so we need one from you, sir.
Oh, okay.
You can repeat if you want.
Yeah, got to go the D.
Gotta go Weird Al.
I'm going to put in the Mighty Bouch.
Oh, yeah.
They're not technically a band.
I like that.
But they do comedy music, and I feel like we're,
are from the same planet
whatever I see from them
I go this is the greatest thing
and then
I'm fucking
lonely island
oh my god
I mean wow
he stole one from you
look how mad he is
he's like mother fuckers
they might be Thomas Jefferson
yeah
four is not enough dude
yeah that's okay
we also share each other's
yeah rushmore
and sign off on them
I'll try and just go
quick
I'll just say it's definitely
Ilvis Sandler
Oh yeah
We've got Sandler
Sandler for me was huge
My cousin gave me a Sandler CD
When I was like whatever 9 or something
And it just like changed me up
Ilvis Sandler
D obviously
I got to check out Elvis
Yeah I did too I didn't know about them
They're so good
Elvis is incredible man
We'll send you some stuff
It's so good
Send it to me
I got it I'll say
yellow card.
Yeah,
Arx bandits.
Ourx bandits.
I love Arxie.
Yeah, dude.
I worked at drive-thru.
Whoa.
Oh, really?
Yeah, we should have been talking about that
the whole time.
I'm a pop punk kid, dude.
I booked hello goodbye
something corporate,
Arx Bandits,
and early November.
Come on.
That was my thing.
Dude, Ace Embers, man.
Ace Enders, man.
Yeah, he was the man.
All those New Jersey bands,
even like, Finch and shit was sick.
I love Finch.
Are you from Jersey?
I'm from L.A.
I grew up in Calabas, West Hills.
Oh, that's right.
Nice.
Word.
Well, sorry, keep going.
Yeah, yellow card.
That got me rock hard.
Sorry.
I'm literally thinking about how you, like, have met the people in our expandits, and I'm freaking out.
Oh, dude.
He's the best.
He's in Guster now.
Oh, really?
That's cool.
I did not fucking know that.
Flight of the Concords.
I think that's safe to say.
I think Fly the Concord's D.
Elvis Sandler.
Sandler's a great pool.
I didn't even think of that.
Yeah, I didn't even think of him so much as an actor.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah, he had fucking albums.
Yeah.
I mean, even like a song.
Comedy songs.
Yeah, he's unbelievable.
Dude, Steph Farley's song was unbelievable.
It made me cry.
And then the one about stand-ups?
Like, God.
Yeah, yeah.
I wanted to say, like, the,
what Sandler can do and get to the, like,
heartfelt moments is, like,
absolutely incredible how it can be funny
and have that human aspect to it.
And then I got to do honorable mention inside by Bo Byrne.
specifically.
Special is like
maybe the best
yeah special.
And then like
it was a masterpiece.
Didn't he fucking
he put he built all his shots too right?
He was he was one man show
of nothing.
Yeah it was during COVID.
Everything himself.
He framed all of it himself.
He recorded everything himself.
Music and video.
It was crazy man.
That's a masterpiece.
So boys,
I know you got to get out of here.
Iron songwriter.
This is this concept is fucking tight.
As a songwriter too.
this is sick as fuck.
Why don't you tell the people about the concept, buddy.
Tell me, this is amazing.
First things first, we'd love to have you on the show at some point.
Dude, dude, anytime you want, bro, I'm in, dude.
Let's go.
I'm in.
That would be so fun.
Dude, I got to.
Yeah, I'll get your number from Jack before we leave before you guys do.
Yeah, great.
No, you'll never get our phone number, but yeah, sounds good.
I like this, guys.
You can be outside.
Once this call is done, we're done.
Yeah.
I'll be outside the door just beating off while you guys.
Don't let him in.
That was good.
So tell us about your new, this concept is unbelievable.
Tell the fans about this.
Yeah, we are so excited about this.
It's a time-constrained songwriting challenge.
So we always have one hour to write the best song that we can with some sort of variable.
We've been really loving using lines from a movie as song lyrics.
And then we set a timer and we have to try to do it.
So the first episode was only lines from Shrek 1.
write the best song that we can,
and no matter what,
we have to produce the song
and put it on streaming services
when it's done,
even if it sucks.
Which is why you can check out
the song and music video
for Donkey on the Edge,
the song that we wrote in an hour,
we're using Shrek lyrics.
Correct.
And we're just about to film one
using lines from Jurassic Park.
We already filmed one
using lines from B movie,
which everyone on the Shrek video
was asking for.
We don't know why.
Weird.
It's a cold classic B movies.
That was Jerry Sideson.
That was Jerry Sides.
Jerry Seinfeld in that?
Correct.
That's his movie.
The Jerry Sinfeld movie about bees.
We did that one.
Yep.
But it's...
That's my life right now.
That's what I'm doing.
Oh, I love it, boys.
I don't have health insurance.
So what?
Are you guys like, how do you get these concepts?
Do you pull from a straw or like people, are you just thinking about it?
Right now we're just kind of thinking about it.
The B movie one is just because it was like it had 4,000 likes on the Shrek video.
And you're like, I guess we'll,
can do this. We don't know, but...
People love it. People love it.
We initially were like, oh, we should do different challenges.
Like, one was the Shrek one, and then one is like, you know, we do them like in the total
darkness, almost like jackass style, like, you know, pitch black or getting a tattoo or, you know.
It'll probably evolve to that place where, like, yeah, you, Eric has always used this reference
of, like, songwriting and jackass combined, where it's like, let's write a song in the middle of a hit
workout class, a CrossFit class.
American Ninja Warrior.
Yeah, exactly.
more of a physical challenge.
Right.
But now, I think for now, it's like,
we struck upon something we really like.
It seems like people really like it.
And we've got a lot of, you know,
new fans from this new show that had no idea we existed.
And they have just been saying,
do this movie, do this movie.
So we're like, okay, let's, let's run this a few times.
Let's just do lines from movies.
Yeah.
For whatever five or ten.
We'll do Jerry Seinfeld, Pop-Tart movie.
So you're putting yourself.
You're putting yourself in a time straight, like one hour to fit to this,
to the whole production.
or just make a bare bones demo?
Just the song, literally just writing the song.
And the production we take over the next week or so,
we record ourselves producing it,
and then we send it out to get mixed.
But it would have been too much to try to produce it in an hour as well.
Yeah, that's a lot.
But that's pretty sick.
This is a great concept.
So 59, have you ever not, have you ever not finished a song?
No.
Not yet.
So far so good.
That's my fucking guys.
That's my fucking boys.
There it is.
You guys should do Passenger 57.
Those are my fucking guys right there.
You should try Passenger 57.
That's got some really great.
Bad action movie lines.
Always been on black.
Jesus.
We're definitely, dude, we're definitely going to go through a ride.
We love action movies more than anything.
Oh, they're the best.
We're going to do.
Point break.
We're going to do.
Face off.
Yeah.
Face off.
It has to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Guys, this is unbelievable.
I, we're friends.
I feel like we're, we are cut from the same cloth.
This is the same cloth.
Same cloth.
The same cloth.
Shout out to Vans Warb Tour.
Shout out to Drive-Thru Records.
Yes.
Dude, we're playing Work for next year.
We are.
That's right.
We're clapping one more time.
Let's go.
We are.
That's my dream.
That's my dream.
I used to like, I used to work Warp Tour.
They had the drive-through stage.
But I always thought like when I was a kid and I was like,
that Ernie Ball stage, one of these years.
I'm going to be on that Ernie Ball stage.
It'll be mine.
We'll get there.
That's good be.
that's going to be a very interesting
how you're going to suck the crowd in because it's
you know it's outside it's hot as fuck
I wonder what time you're playing at each night
we're just going to play green day covers
let's go
I've always like thought about that
it's so fucking it was always so fucking hot
dude that whole the warptory
like feet like they
they pick the most random dates like
Baker's field like
yeah we're doing it in Tampa
the Tampa warped tour
oh that's a good
Oh, God.
Dude, that's the best.
Oh, Tampa.
Yeah, St. Pete Tampa.
That's the shit.
All right, I got one last question for you guys.
I'll let you guys be these brilliant songwriters that you are.
Okay, so I want you, there's three, three of you.
I want you each to pick one person and say something nice about them being in your band.
And it can't be yourself.
We don't have time, unfortunately.
We have to go.
We got to get out of here.
Thank you so much.
Say something that you and that inspires you about that person.
person.
That's a really nice question.
Okay.
Who wants to go first?
And I have to say it about one of them.
One of them.
Yeah, yeah.
Each you have to pick one person.
Can't be you.
Can't be you.
Okay.
Interesting.
In regards to the band, what they bring in the band?
Anything.
What do you bring on tour?
Like, maybe like, you know, I really love that you bring an extra donut with you
after you get something.
Or like, you let me have the last Tokyo sick.
You know, shit like that.
Well, Tom is, uh, will always, uh,
offer to grab coffees if someone needs like, hey, we got sound check.
I see that you're, you know, everything's sort of set up.
I got 10 minutes.
You guys go hanging the green room.
I'm going to go get us coffees.
What do you want?
Yeah, I would double up on that and say Tom is always looking out for other people,
always wants everybody to be happy and comfortable, putting himself last.
No, by the sound guy, a cake, if it's his birthday.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, Tom's just super, super nice guy.
Tom's a match.
I always looking out.
But I can't go forward without giving.
I can't, I can't go for it.
without giving Eric a compliment also and just say that Eric is an absolute positive vibe energy
output machine and I think keeps everybody like in a good mood keeps us laughing all the time even when
things get tough and is always just bringing something new into our lives that we would have never
heard about or known about and is now like wow this is like my favorite thing Eric knows me so well he
recommended the exact, you know, piece of art that I needed right now for some reason.
So, I appreciate a lot.
And we're running out of minutes on the call, so we've got to go.
Data, you know, data.
Dude, data is so expensive these days.
I know, dude, I have roll over minutes.
No, we have to say, and I think I can speak for Eric on this, too.
Ethan has a very, very, uh, ferocious sense of loyalty and commitment and focus.
that I think is the reason that in the first year of this band,
we accomplished anything at all,
because it's always, it was Ethan and continues to be in so many ways.
Ethan is the guy that's like, okay, we want to do this,
what days are we getting together, and what time are we going to be there?
And then he's always 15 minutes early, and then he's just always down to, like,
say yes and work on shit.
You need that guy in your match.
He need that guy.
An invaluable
asset role to play in a group.
So, very grateful for that.
And now I'm going to start.
And now I just cry the rest of the day.
And if you need help moving,
if you lost your cat,
if anything happened,
he will be the first person there.
Well, thank God.
To help you do something.
Thank God for that.
Just a bunch of grenades velcroed to my shirt.
Ready to go.
Yeah.
Well, thank God you pick Tom over Jacob Jeffries,
that motherfucker.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
being on the show.
You didn't have to say it.
I'll say it before.
You fuck that guy.
No, I'm just, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I can't hear you guys.
I got to go.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, together you guys are strongest
and I'm just so happy.
I got to meet you.
I've been a fan of you guys for a long time.
And thank you for making Jack's,
Jack raves about you all the time.
And as our podcast producer,
I know you, you know,
South Florida represent, you know,
so here we are.
Absolutely.
He and I used to watch the drive-thru DVD together.
We were in a
scoban together.
Oh, hell yeah.
He's my day ones, Jack Gould.
Together, let's take the, let's take it over, baby.
Have fun out there.
Be safe.
And make sure you still love it, because that's all the matters.
For sure.
Thank you so much for having us.
We'll see you when you get here to do a iron song.
Yeah, I'm playing Trubidor at the end of the month.
If you guys want to come out.
Yeah, come on out.
What day?
What day?
The 30th.
Great.
Oh, we're there.
Bro, we're filming that day.
That's right.
We're filming during the day.
Nighttime.
Are you playing?
Nighttime or late in.
Nighttime, baby.
It's a new show.
I'll throw you guys on the list.
If you guys want to sit in with us,
it'd be sick.
We got you.
Let's do some shit.
We love the troubadour.
Get real.
Come on, let's go.
Let's do it.
I'll get your number from Jack.
We'll make it happen.
We'll see you there.
All right, boys.
Have a great day and keep making people smile.
You guys are the shit.
Oh, thank you, brother.
Larry, bud.
Likewise.
See you.
Bye.
