ANMA - A Bubblegum Winner

Episode Date: September 4, 2023

Good morning, Gus! We're at the much requested Desnudo Coffee on Webberville. Right down the street is the highly rated Fleet Coffee so we have to see how it stacks up. Gus and Geoff talk about Audience interaction, LOST, Having a moment, Card breaking & collecting, Learning about weather, 20th anniversary of Red vs Blue, Outsourced call center calls, Smut warehouse, and Betty Blackwell. ANMA Mugs go on sale September 29th at 10am. Grab one at store.roosterteeth.com Sponsored by Shady Rays http://shadyrays.com and use code ANMA and Fum http://tryfum.com/ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Okay, this is episode 56. Last episode was 55. It's not numbers work. We were at Irie being coffee in Wine Bar. We talked about Jeff Siracanophobia story. We talked about Freaks at the call center. Is this the last episode of the season? No, we have one more.

I think, yeah, we're one off. Remember, I made a big think about this last time. We started at 50, we're at 56. Don't worry. We only have to do one supplemental piece because we did another one eight weeks ago. We talked about East Side King being a porn store, we talked about the break show and your new podcast,

so all right. Come out today huh? Yeah, talked about East Side. Rave reviews. I don't know, there's been any reviews. He's here so far. No, rave, rave. Childhood, cremers and a clown murder.

Rave review, please. Rave review, apple. That was all last time, we're at Desi. No, Rape. Rape. Childhood, cremary, and a clown murder. Rape the review. Please, Rape the review. That was all last time. We're at Destiny Dock Coffee, so. So. Have you received any email about the Detroit Tigers Bubblegum card? Who was that?

Jeff's boss. We salt. What was that? We solved that, right? What's that? The bubblegum. What was it? Whoever was the first person to What's that? Yeah, the bubble gum. We'll see whoever was the first person to email Eric at Jeff's boss.com. Oh, let me, let me check. I

certainly don't have access to this fake email. That's why I'm asking. Yeah, no, I appreciate it. I just think the thing we talked about. Yeah. If you don't know he's talking about it's on the break show, an episode that Gus was on. I went to Barrett's coffee this weekend. I forgot. We had like a pack of Detroit Tigers bubblegum from 1989 or something. And then on this show last week we said that we would send it to whoever was the first person to email. Whatever the email address was that we gave.

Yeah. And that episode, and we said, most likely it'd be a first member because episode comes out for first number first. And that episode came out, was this recording member because episode comes out for first number first. And that episode came out, was this recording? That episode came out for first members yesterday. I believe it's out for the general public now. So I'm curious if anybody actually emailed to... I was trying to drink my... Oh, I was wondering what was happening. I know that I talked into my coffee.

Great. Do you get an email? I'm looking right now. Okay. I had to find the login for it. Yeah, that's why I was giving the background and venting. I keyed Lean Forward and I thought you was ready to talk. Right, because he was trying to drink his microphone. Yeah, that's why I was giving the background and vamping. And I keyed lean forward and I thought

you were trying to- Right, right, because he was trying to drink his microphone. Yeah, but turns out I was just trying to- Okay, he's still working on it. So you went and had coffee, so that's the one downside of doing this podcast. You said you already went to Barrett's this morning. Oh, I go to Barrett's once a month,

that's where I buy my beans. Oh, I should be there. Barrett's is my favorite coffee shop in Austin because I think they're the best roaster in Austin. I get, I have like a tub, like an air seal tub that I put, I fill up to the top with the chappas and then I get two other bags of something different every time. So like chappas is like my daily driver.

And then I rolled the dice on a Columbia and a Costa Rica, I don't remember what they were. So you're big like Central America, South America. I agree. I do like it. I do like an Ethiopia. It's just a different flavor, a different size of bean and different kind of coffee. But I was looking for something more,

I don't wanna say acidic, but a little bit more fruity. This is all because Jeff hasn't looked this up by the way. No, no, I'm just listening to you. I stopped, I looked at it. No, what I was gonna say, the problem I have is drinking coffee in the morning at home, and then come in drinking coffee again. Oh, this is my second cup, and it will be half of the amount of coffee

that I have. And I'm going to have more coffee. I'm going to have this after we go to the other room. How is that a problem? That seems like a picture. Coffee makes me pee. Throw a monster in there as well. Because if I don't limit, I think I had a conversation

with Ashley Jenkins about this, like forever ago. I have to limit myself to two cups of coffee a day unless I'm doing like the show. Otherwise, there will be no limit as to the amount of coffee that I drink in a day, and I will get sick. Yeah, yeah. I will become ill with the amount of coffee that I drink. Yeah, but it'd be so much fun getting there.

Oh, it would be, it's just the best. Cause this is the closest to stimulants that I can do. Yeah. Like, have you ever been, my friend's a coffee roaster. And when he said we worked at a coffee shop, he's like, it's the most legal high that you can be because your grinding beans all day and just ingesting caffeine at a level that you're flying.

It doesn't look like we're a mask. No, he's like all day long. That's the work, you're just like buzzing, buzzing, buzzing, buzzing. You get off and like, man, I have a headache. Wow. Yeah, we've got gum responses. My podcast has been out for half hour or so. Okay.

And there were 37 emails about it. So the first one was just from Levy, I don't know what's in the full name, Levy. Levy, Levy. Okay, Levy. I love my Levy brand jeans, Levy. And they just said gum. There you go.

That's the very first one. Way to go. Way to go. Congratulations to Levy. I love your jeans. And sorry to Derek and intuition and O'Bob and Liam and Scott and Sam and Brandon and Audrey and Nick and Brett. Yeah, all the people that missed it. I like this. I like. I'll try to think of more ways to do this.

I like this interaction. I like this thing. Since stuff in and like interacting, like reading people's names and having stuff. Dude, we don't have anything like that on the show, really. No, I think this was this was stuff. We don't have anything like that on the show, really. No, I think this was great. We don't have anything like that arish teeth, actually. And I've been listening, you know, or I've been watching Old Howard Stern every day. Like I watched the Sal and Arty and Richard fight last night.

That's three parts, over two hours. How did Emily like it? She liked it. She really? She's in it for the fights. She loves to see the fights. And that's a top five fight of all time. But the thing that I think that was so brilliant about that show that has never been replicated is Howard's in the middle of a conversation,

like this conversation. And then just very definitely, he takes a call. And you don't see a coming. And then he's like, Gary from Massachusetts, what do you think? And then Gary gets to pipe in and make fun of Artie or Sal. And it creates such an immersive moment. And I'm not saying that we should ever take live calls,

but I do feel like that's something that we could find a way to enhance or to take advantage of in some small way. Because it adds so much more to the show, it makes it feel so more fuller. And I think it makes the audience feel like there's so much more a part of it. Yeah, the problem is that we're not live.

We would have to have a predetermined thing ahead of time or try to figure it out. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it. I'm just saying we need to think creatively about a way to do it. Yeah, and I'm not saying that ANMA is the right podcast for it or that it makes sense for ANMA in any way.

I just feel like it's something that Ruestri-Teeth as a company could take better advantage of. Yeah, and I think that when we used to stream RTP Live, like part of that was like chat interaction, like seeing what people were saying and like saying someone's name, but it's different to taking a call. There's, there's, there's, there's, there's, it is different. I mean, it's like, like you read chat lines, like you get one sentence from that instead of like a, a short back and forth.

Right. Exactly. And it's like, you just like, I mean, it's not hard to text them to, to, to tweet and, to tweet. What am I trying to say? It's not, it's not hard to communicate via Twitch or whatever Twitch chat. Yeah. But it's not the same thing. It's not, it just doesn't feel, yeah, it doesn't feel like it's elevating the audience to being a part of the show in the way that they do, which is just kind of, I don't know, it feels like they're on the same level. And I like that. I agree. We have the anarchy question.

We have a small thing where people can participate, but I like what you're saying. I like this bubble gum. I also really like the Detroit Tigers logo. It's really a sweet spot for me. It's more of just a like, just something that's been going on the back of my head thinking about. There's got to be some way we can richen that experience a little bit. Let's in big in it.

Let's in big in it. It let's him big in it. Yeah, that's a perfectly cromulous idea. We're at Desnudo Coffee. It means naked. This place is fucking happening. Yeah, this is why I've been putting it off. People recommend it a little trailer park is a very cruise. There's Dominic in.

Oh, there's two very cruises. There's bar and a taco place. There's a collachi place too. I think we're watching, yeah, crewachi right here. This is one of those places in Austin, which is most places in Austin, but this is definitely one of those places in Austin

where we come and sit down and everybody here is three times as attractive as us. And I feel like, oh man, Austin got a lot prettier at some point. That's everywhere in the world. A lot more handsome. Yeah. I think it's because they're like close fit now.

Close didn't use to fit. You're right about that. Close it until like two that I think probably like 2004, closed it and fit and then closed started fitting. So now everyone like, oh, I'm like a model. It's like age buck close. I, I started rewatching lost from the beginning. Whoa.

And it's crazy to see it now. So I'm like, obviously, this loss came out like in 2004. So I'm like, oh, this looks dated as fuck. Like this, the clothes are all weird. It's like, oh, this is like early 2000's fashion. They got going on here. I'm not tying this fast. It'll never look right again.

Right. It's like, oh, in my mind, this is still a fairly, it's an older show, but it's still fairly contemporary. But I started watching it. It's like, oh, in my mind, this is still a fairly, it's an older show, but it's still fairly contemporary, but I started watching it, and it's like, oh no, this is old. This is, this is almost 20 years old now, which is fucking crazy to think about. I'm on a real big kick, like you know, I've been rewatching The Simpsons,

yeah, which is weird because now I'm up to like season 24, and they're starting to get more contemporary too. Like there was a reference to the Re TV show. Uh-huh, yeah. The most recent episode I saw was like, oh, like they're in. I'm catching up now. Revenge was such a big thing in the Chima Hunter. There goes the trash truck. Um, but yeah, it's just strange how you, how you look back at TV shows and how time

gets really weird about that stuff. It's really, dude, you try watching Dallas with me. It's 1982 and Dallas and fucking. That's perpetually old. Holy shit. That, they're like, Dallas is always old. Like that, it wasn't, it wasn't old in 1982. For us though, it was.

But I was around. That's true, I was four. I was seven. I was probably proud of myself for not shitting my pants anymore than I went to kindergarten and shit my pants again. It is the way the world looked when I first started looking at the world. If that makes sense.

I got you. Yeah. Yeah. So it looks right to me, but also wrong. I think that's how lost looks. Yeah. Do I hurt you go? Yeah, it's how everyone dresses.

Oh, this is how everyone dressed. Right. Yeah. There was a, I saw on Reddit, someone posted a picture a few days ago of an old McDonald's ash tray. I wonder if you remember them. They were like brown and they had the McDonald's arches on them and there was like notched out. I remember seeing those in McDonald's when I was a little kid and there was an interesting comment in the

thread or someone said when people think of the 80s they always think of like neon colors and like late 80s style. But for them that was the 80s, they always think of neon colors and late 80s style. But for them, that was the 80s, the early 80s, almost like a holdover from the 70s. Yellow, orange, brown, that's really what it is. And that's what I think was like the Dallas era. There goes a train against some good audio texture. You know, it's funny, you say that it's kind of like how Richard Linkler made Daysding of Fused, which is his love letter

to the 70s, right? And a couple of years ago, he made a movie called Someone's Gotta Have It or Something. Everybody wants some. Everybody wants some, right? And I didn't see that movie, but it was a love letter to the 80s, but I didn't see the movie because the clothes that they were wearing

looked exactly like the 70s, so it looked like another Daysing Confused, and I went like, that's not my 80s. And it just immediately turned me off to it. Which is dumb reason not to watch it move. But I get it. I think the beginning of a decade is always a holdover from the last part of the previous.

Like that's the early 90s, everyone's like, oh, grunge. And it's like, that's like, it's when you get into like mid 90s. Grunge is like 93, 94. You think about the early 90s and it's the holdover from like neon and hair metal. It excess.

Dude, Nelson going into the 90s was one of the big hit, big top bands. I think of like neon ski jacket for some reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything looks like that cup that Dixie cup the white with like the, but I'm not like swiggle on it. I think a puffy Dallas Cowboys jacket.

Oh hell yeah. I had one of those. Yeah, that's cool. I didn't actually, I never liked this cowboys for one second, but everybody wanted that jacket It's so dumb so dumb. In the late 90s it felt like everyone was wearing everything It was like the breath you know like slightly brighter colors, but everything was like Charlotte Hornets And the week was like a Charlotte Hornets fan everyone just had a shirt. Why I don't know I don't I don't know Basketball was big. Someone to turn it for.

Why the Hornets saw? I like I get it. Basketball was big. Were they like a new team at that point? I don't know. They were an expansion team. I don't know if that was when they came out or not, but they also

had Larry Johnson play for the Hornets. Yeah. Maybe they had some heat for Larry. Grandma. I think it's interesting because you have something like the Hornets that had in the late 90s the thing that everyone had.

It was like the cool look and the jazz had something like the hornets that had in the late 90s, the thing that everyone had, it was like the cool look. And the jazz had something like that too. They had like the, some mountains and like the, the, the, it's kind of like teal and purple and white and everything. And they didn't change everything for so long that it started being cool again. Yeah. It's like they were, they were like shit for so long that it started being cool again. I feel like the Denver Nuggets are the prime example of that.

100%. Like their logo, they was so trapped in the 80s and now suddenly you're like, God, I can't get enough of that fucking logo. It's so 80s. You're just looking to stick with it. Don't change. Yeah, just don't change. Eventually it all comes back around.

That's it. Oh, that's happening now with clothes. Speaking of coming back around, I'm excited about, I was thinking about the sale the day. I'm excited about when our shit comes back around. Like Red vs Blue will come back around 20 years from now and it'll have some little moment. And everybody will, or everybody,

some people will rediscover it and it'll be like, like I was reading an article the other day with this, you know that band Yellow Card? They're having a moment right now and the article is, Yellow Card is having a moment and they have no idea why. And it's all about how they don't understand why they're popular again out of the blue.

And I wonder if that will happen. There'll be like some nerds or... You're gonna find some TikTok influencers. That's the way everybody will be into strong bad and Penny Arcade and Red versus Blue for like three weeks before they move on. I'll get sort of TikToks that are like clips from Red versus Blue and I just go like,

oh, I'm not interested in this. People will be like, what is this? This is off my FYP, what are you doing? I wanna listen to these guys some more. It's interesting watching TikTok try to, it's at the right word, but it's what, it's where I'm gonna use, try to legitimize themselves or try to reach a broader audience.

Like I've been seeing a lot of advertisements that they do where they almost try to position it like a tool to promote your small business. Or it's like they're trying to reach people, trying to grow into new markets that they don't, that they're not already hitting. It's like, oh, you can use this if you, to show off whatever it is you're selling on the internet, you know, reach a new audience, like, oh, they're really, like trying to expand that market and really trying to get it

out of just whoever is already using it and get new people into the platform. You know, they're doing that in a couple of different fronts. This is of no interest to you all probably, but card breaking is a huge thing in card collecting and the thing I'm into. And I do, I used to do a lot of card breaks on YouTube, just because you can like, it's a cheap way to get product that you want, or to only focus on the teams you want and stuff.

A lot of people think it's gambling. I'm not here to promote it or dissuade people from using it. It's something that I do from time to time. And TikTok card breaking has killed YouTube card breaking. Really? It is so much easier. You just go to a TikTok, you go to a live feed, the guys there, you click a button, and then you pick your team, and then you Apple Pay, and then you're there.

And it's so fast and it's insane. Why do you pay in? What is that? What do you call it? So what card break is, there's many different kinds, but many different kinds. But the main one is called PYT, pick your team. So let's say I'm a card dealer. I have a case of NBA prism 2022-23.

A box in that case, a hobby box will cost you, let's say $1,000. So I'm going to be like $750,000. A case will have 12 boxes in it. So you're looking at $15,000 or the product maybe, $12,000 or the product somewhere in there. You could never afford that.

I'm not gonna go buy a thousand dollar box of cards, but I only give a shit about the Boston Celtics anyway. So I can go in and pay 200 bucks to just get all the Boston Celtics cards out of all that break. And then they sell by team, and then like a team that has a hot rookie like Victor William and Yamma, San Antonio, that, that, that you, maybe $600 to buy that. That's how I was going to ask.

Like, yeah, yeah. But if you like the Washington Wizards, it's $35, you know, it's commissar it to, to the level of stars and, you know, the value of the cards in there. And who said, I guess just whoever the dealer is, sets up all of that. Yeah, they just set up the price and figure out what they want to do. And sometimes you can buy into a case, you can buy into a box, you can buy a variety, or you get like a bunch of different sports or whatever.

And it's just a way for you to be able to afford to get cards from the teams that you want without, and have the fun of breaking and seeing packs opened, as opposed to just buying like the, I'm going after Marcus Martin, Jason Tat to just buying like the, I'm going after Marcus Martin, Jason Tatum, right? And so I could just buy those individual cards, but the fun is like the discovery, much like we had when we did the make sure the other day.

And I presume the dealer sets the price so that they make a profit as well. Yeah, well, it's not just like an at-cost thing. So on TikTok, they set the price. It's a hard price, you're Captain, and they figure out what their profit margin is, and they adjust accordingly. On YouTube, it's bidding. So you can sometimes get lucky and get super cheap. Oh, so insensitive. You're only one person could get all the Boston Celtics and they're bidding against someone else who wants

to get the Boston Celtics card. Yeah, so like I'm bidding against everybody else who wants Boston Celtics cards. So sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't, but with TikTok it's easy, you just pay the price and it is. Interesting. Okay, I can see why you said some people, like at first I didn't understand why you said some people thought of it as gambling. Oh, a lot of people get it. View it similarly to like loot box, loot crates, and it is, it's gambling, you're betting on getting

something out of that. But if you don't care what you get, if the experience is what you're going for, then it doesn't, then I think it's fine. That's interesting. Yeah, I'm in it for the excitement, the shock and awe, the surprise and delight, and then if you get a cool card at the end for it, then I think it's fine. That's interesting. I'm in it for the excitement, the shock and awe, the surprise and delight, and then if you get a cool card at the end of it, it's awesome.

But if you didn't, chances are I paid 15 bucks. Yeah, cards are back in a very weird way, where it's more than that too. At Costco is selling these like Pokemon card trick-or-treat packs. Have you seen these? No. It is a, it's like 50 packs or whatever. Someone's listening to this and they're going,

does not have any of this. Say for the sake of this, it's like 50 packs in like this sleeve or like big box or whatever. And each pack has like three cards. And each little pack has like a basic one, a regular one, whatever, and then like a prismi one. I don't think they're worth much, but they're to buy, to give to kids

for trick or treat stuff. For instead of candy. That's adorable. And it's like, that's how big this stuff is again, where you can give out, you're giving out cards on Halloween instead of candy, because that's what, I mean, kids are super into Pokemon cards. So, I used, you know, obviously like we talked about,

I used to collect cards in the night. I've seen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw plenty. Looking forward to seeing more. And so my, my knowledge kind of stops there. And, you know, from when I used to collect, I knew that there would used to be like an age a long time ago, right? And like the 50s and earlier, where it's like cards were kind of rare thing. You end up with stuff like Mickey Manel's, Honest Wagner's, like this kind of niche thing. And then we entered in the 90s, we entered like this garbage era.

The junk wax era. Over just like over printing. And I feel like based on what you're telling me, it seems like that's coming back around. Like the market crashed, it went away, nobody really cared about it. Now people care about it again. Is it coming back around?

Is it going to be the like a huge crash? It's so much more complicated now than that. And maybe this isn't good podcast talk because I can go into it, I don't know. So maybe we cut this if it's not interesting. It's your job to make a good podcast talk. Do your job. So yes, what happened in the 90s was cards skyrocketed

in popularity and so card companies, tops, Bowman, Donrus, F Flier, Upper Deck, they just started printing cards. Like there were like a 1991 tops Mark McWire. There might be 3 million of them in circulation. Then after the bottom fell out of the market, it became, it was like dark days for a long time. Only serious collectors were involved.

And then what happened is they started lowering the print runs because there was no demand and to entice people to buy cards, they started coming up with the ideas of putting autographs in and memorabilia, like bits of a jersey or whatever. And that helped and then exclusivity. They started figuring out how to number cards,

one of a 2000 and then it became one of a hundred and then started having one of ones and that really created a groundswell of support again for cards for people that wanted to, people love rarity. I love rarity, everybody loves rarity, everybody loves to get like a one of, like I want every one of one mark a smart on earth, I don't know why I just wanted, I'm the only one that has it, you know, and I've I only got four, but there's tons. And so then also with sneaker culture and fashion around NBA becoming a big deal, sports cards kind of just started

to become the big deal again. And then when the pandemic hit and everybody looked back, worked through their life and said, I can't go outside. What did I use to like? Was it making bread? It was collecting cards. They fucking exploded again. And in that moment,

print runs started to rise again to meet demand. And so the cards that are coming out today, 22, 22, 23, 24 are going to probably 10 years from now be worth a little bit less than the cards that came out three, four, five years ago. But the market adjusts and the also also the demand is so much higher, so many more people are into it, so many people are looking at it as a legitimate alternative investment avenue and people are building up portfolios of million dollar cards to put their money into, which

I think is wild, but is it really any different than gold or any other i think of it like arc yeah it's worth what someone wants to pay for it it's worth what somebody wants to pay for it right so um but what's happening is now fanatics has hit the scene and they are destroying their competitors they have snake the like it used to be tops on one side and donors on the other and they between the two of them they had pretty much all the major league licensing like upper deck is there's others that are in play yeah but tops and don't

risk or tops and panini rather panini on sonnest tops and panini are the two heavy hitters and panini is what I mostly collect that's all NBA NFL they have unlicensed baseball tops has licensed baseball license football no license for basketball right panini came in they bought tops just bottom. So we own you now. Then they went and they said we're gonna destroy you, Penini. And so they took Penini bought tops. He said no, I'm sorry, fanatics came in. Okay. Okay. Okay. fanatics came in and bought tops last year or two years ago. And and then they have just waged war on the other

competitor, Penini, and they are beating them into submission. They have taken away on the other competitor, Panini, and they are beating them into submission. They have taken away, Panini just lost the NBA license and the NFL license. So now I think they only have hockey and other sports. So in 2026, Panini will only be able to release unlicensed baseball football and basketball cards, which should be the end of Panini. And the fanatics will own them. What's an unlicensed card? How do you release an unlicensed card?

They airbrushed logos off. Okay. So they can release a card of a player licenses and Pineda has player licenses. Okay, they have to play a license. You have to have team license. And so you can have one without the other, which makes it complicated. So what, how is Pineda losing this?

Are they just not paying the money for these licenses? I assume it sounds like they're getting out bid. Right, is that, is that all bid? Is that all bid? They're losing their deals because fanatics is coming in and going, NBA don't sign a deal with them. Sign a deal with us, we'll give you better terms. We want exclusivity. And I'm sure it's like this is a better deal for us.

And I'm sure they pay more than what the NBA would get for both companies. And so Penini's just kind of out on their ass. Penini just tried to counter-suit fanatics over the last week and I think that that's not gonna go well. And then, so it's become like a war. And a lot of people hate Pineda, and are happy about fanatics, but-

Excellent, exactly. Every bot, you weren't wrong about that. Everybody hates fanatics. And everybody's like, yeah, fanatics is just gonna destroy it. And so destroy the industry. But it's so weird, it's like eating itself right now. Nobody knows what's gonna happen. Fanatics wants to control the breaking market too,

so they're making it, they're gonna set it up when they are now in charge of tops and all other, they may end up buying Panini in this whole deal. They're gonna set up deals with hobby enthusiasts and with car shops to say, you can't break on eBay if you buy from us. You have to break through our car shop live app. Yeah, and so their eBay breaking was already dying,

but I imagine they'll come after TikTok next, and they're gonna try to set it up where if you do this kind of stuff, you can only- They're gonna get it. They wanna cut. They wanna cut it every day. It's like selling used video games, right?

Like developers and publishers don't like that because they don't get their cut there. So they're just trying to get the cut of- They wanna control the entirety of the market. And people are really excited about it, and I don't get their cut there. So they're just trying to get the cut of. They want to control the entirety of the market. And people are really excited about it, and I don't know why, because I think it's gonna destroy, maybe not destroy it,

but it's gonna radically alter the, and it's never for the, it's never good. It's never for the best. If any of what just happened on this podcast was interesting to you, check out SoAllRight, which is just what that was,

but without the interruptions from me and Gus. But I'm never talked about baseball cards. No, no, no. This is like a special sneak episode. But you should, because that's, I had no idea, and they're just doing what the fuck they did in the goddamn 90s. Yes, they are. Exactly.

They are doing exactly the same thing, and going, the hubris of, yeah, don't worry, it surely can't happen twice. Well, I think they, it's short-term game for them, right? Like they're gonna go buttload of money. They don't give a, I. Well, I think it's short-term game for them, right? Like they're gonna go buttload a money. They don't give a, I shouldn't, I don't know. My conjecture is that the corporate entities don't give a fuck about the collector in this process.

It just pumping his funds or paying back investors and then dumping it. So what'll happen is it'll implode, and then the people that really love the industry will finally be able to afford the cards they wanted. A ton of people will lose a ton of money who warranted it for the right reasons anyway. And then the people that still give a shit will still give a shit and then it'll reach

some new equilibrium and continue on. You know, it'll just go, it'll just continue to go, ebb and flow and go up and down. I think it's incredibly interesting and you should cover it on so all right. Like that's, I think that's, I had no idea. I think you talked about like the 90s stuff and then what's happening now.

I had no idea that Fanatics came in and was doing the shit. History. History loves to repeat itself. It's what it does. And I just don't understand why everybody so had, so excited to see Panini fall because everybody hates their quality control. Uh huh. Right.

They think the quality control is really poor and they pump out too much product. But nobody, but they're all like, they're excited because the guy, because they're seeing this company get taken down that they have this issue with, but the company that's taken them down is gonna be a thousand times worse. Or just as bad.

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Do you think port quality control is a means of also artificially creating rarity? Yeah. means of also artificially creating rarity. It's like, no, because like, oh, only 5% of this specific card are centred and cut well. So because they already price in rarity, they have like every card that comes out, like I collect Marcus Smart, he's my PC, my personal collection, I love Marcus Smart, he's my favorite player, I've got,

I'm not so nearly anywhere. I've got over, I've got over 4,000 individual distinct Marcus Smart cards at this point that are different. And so like, prism comes out with this year's basketball. 2023, 2024, Marcus Smart will be a Memphis Grizzly in it. That's going to be weird. I don't like that. But they'll have his base card.

And then there will be 36 parallels, probably. That are like, here it's like his base card, his cracked ice card, his blue cracked ice card, his red cracked ice card, his blue parallel, purple parallel, his, they just like, there's different versions of the card and then they'll be a card that's like, this one is one of 99, this one's one of 75, this orange one's one of 50,

and then they'll be like three of them that are one of one. They'll be like the black pulsar and like whatever other, black and gold, and they'll be one of one. And so there's so much rarity built into the system. I was thinking of the old way, where the old way, that didn't exist. No other cards, we should do it,

but yeah, if they're creating the rarity like that by doing limited runs and letting you know that. Definitely being created. And there's doing the break show with Jeff and he runs into this stuff. Now I know what cracked ice is. I think I'm breaking bad. Here's an example. Here's an example. Here's a last year's Mark of Smart Top's card. This is every different version of the card I have. Yeah, different colors, different like sheens. And so that's one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five. That's 29 different versions of that card that I have. Jesus.

Not typical and metopic, not typical and my father, but I think this stuff's super interesting. Well, thank you. I'm really curious to be your partner. I don't mind it for this podcast either. Cause I think that's, if you're so into it, it's like just talking about fucking flying. Like, there's nothing more interesting than,

then I would, I wanna go flying with Gus. I kinda don't wanna go flying with Gus, but I wanna go flying with Gus because I wanna watch Gus be good at this. Yeah. You know, like I wanna watch him be in his element. Yeah. Cause there's nothing more fun than watching somebody

in their element, doing what they love and what they're excited about. I was on the way down here, we're coming down to disnew. I was talking about we, it's still hot here in Austin, but there was a cool front that came through yesterday. It's a, this might be the end of the 105s and 100s. Yesterday was 109 degrees. It's, it might be, we might be at the tail end of that. I think today's only supposed to be 100 degrees. There's a fucked up crackle right over there. Oh, it just took a shit. Anyway, yeah, yesterday a cold front move through and you were talking about amateur weather people on TikTok and yeah, it's my least favorite new TikTok trend. And I was talking

about how when I got my pilot license, we had to learn a decent amount about weather. Like it's a big deal and you get drilled a lot about it. And I talked about how when you watch where the forecast, you look at like where the charts on your phone, like a cool front comes to and it's like a blue line with the little triangles on it. And when I was learning about weather for my pilot license, you know, they introduced a lot of things,

a lot of concepts, they made these abstract concepts real. And one of the things that really stuck with me was thinking about a cold front, right? It's like you think about the air that's around us right now, it's a big air mass. If we have a high pressure system, if it's been hot, you have this hot air all around. You have a cold front, is this mass of colder air

that's coming through, and colder air, everyone knows, colder air sinks, hot air rises. So like the colder air almost comes through like a plow. It's being pushed through, it's heavier than the hot air. So it comes through kind of like shoe horns under or plows under the hot air and forces the hot air up. And that's what creates thunderstorms. It's like this moist hot air getting shoved up

by this cold air that's sneaking in under it. And that's why you see thunderstorm clouds like get this huge verticality on them. So then the cold plow comes through and it throws all the hot air up. It is the cold air it just keeps on trucking, keeps on moving and then eventually the hot air falls back down. Right, until.

And is it still hot again? It could be until it reaches a point where there's not enough energy for it to continue pushing against the hot air. Like that's why it's been so hot here this summer, they keep talking about this heat dome, this high pressure system over the Central Party of the United States.

It's just so powerful that cold, no cold front, no cold system can push through it. And that's why we had weird weather here yesterday. Cause we had like the confluence of three different masses of air kind of meeting here all at the same time. It was really close to point level to having tornado warnings, but it was too dry to actually happen. But boy, it felt like tornadoes were about to happen.

The wind started whipping like crazy. I don't know where I left my buddy's place and he's like it's supposed to rain later and I went oh fucking way I got home and it was just it was a rain to like it was fucking a big ass raindrop wild it was thuds yeah I got it anyway really oh it was like mother fuck it was so patchy everywhere like north Austin didn't get stuff parts of South Austin did and then others didn't.

It was so long. Yeah, it was like neighborhood by neighborhood. It was. You don't live far away from me. I know. Stuff out east stuff out west like it wasn't consistent. It was everywhere. The weather was super weird.

But the best part was it at least cooled the air like it wasn't like getting hit by a blow dryer when the wind was blowing. It was a dog's breath when you stepped outside. Yeah. Brutal. cool to the air. Like it wasn't like getting hit by a blow dryer when the wind was blowing and it was like, oh my god. It was a dog's breath when you stepped outside. Yeah. Brutal. Yeah, I'm hoping worth the end of it. I took the trash out right after the rain stopped

and I was like, holy shit, there's a breeze. Yeah, this is pleasant air. Yeah, I was thought to you. I'm wearing jeans today. Look at you. Yeah, well I figured we were out before noon. It's 88 already. Yeah, but I figured we were out before noon,

so it'd be all right. I'll be okay. You wear jeans today. I put on pants for the first time the other day because I had to take Millie to the doctor. Do you know, do you dress up for stuff like that? Like I could have worn shorts to Millie's doctor appointment. I was thinking about when I was there.

And I was like, what's up a pants on for this? Now this to me feels like a thing, like an RU garbage thing where it's like, do you dress up to go to the doctor? To the doctor, you feel pants to the doctor? I guess that an argue garbage thing where it's like do you dress up to go to the talk? To the doctor, as he fucking says, I get a special thing, I do. Like I'll wear, if it's an appointment for something, I'll be like, I'm not just gonna wear like a t-shirt shorts,

I'll like put on like pants and like maybe like a collared shirt. It is, for the fucking dog. I'm like, go to the dermatologist, then like just fucking take it off, what are you doing? I typically, the last time I wore pants or long pants, this one we did the 20th anniversary stream the other day. Oh yeah, how that goes. I don't want every other comment in chat to be,

oh my god, Gus is wearing shorts. Like get over it. That's the only reason, like I'll wear long pants to work. If I know I'm gonna be on camera, just because I, it doesn't need to be a distraction It's it's what a dumb comment to make it's great that you mentioned that because we really should talk about what we did last Friday because I don't know about you but I had an all-time I didn't anticipate it I Didn't expect it going in but I had an all-time great great experience

Making that yeah production with us. Like a 20th Reddress Blue 20th anniversary like retro's 20th live stream. Yeah. And from Bernie Sparibedger. Yeah, well we did it you know in the stage but they recreated Bernie Sparibed room as accurately as they could

based on the photos and you know obviously for practicality for the live stream and it was bizarreity for the live stream. And it was bizarre to see. Too good. Becca and Jason Saldonia both happened to be in the office that day recording lines for Reverse Sploo. And so I brought them both on so they could see it. And it's like, it's shocking.

It's like walking into 2003. Yeah, I didn't know Becca was there. I saw Jason. Yeah. We pulled Becca in for some help on another recording. Yeah, I didn't know Becca was there. I saw Jason. Yeah. We pulled back in first some help on another recording. Yeah, I saw her post about that. I was like, what the hell, I didn't know Becca was here. That's fun.

It's very fun. But it was like such a, like, I felt, it was a shocking moment the first time I stepped on it. And I don't know about you, but I was overcome with a rush of memories and emotions. And I never thought I would step foot in that room again. And then I was briefly. So then it was really, there's a bunch of like RVB

20th anniversary merch and we do these live sale events. And so I guess now we're there just, you know, trying to convince people to buy shit. But also the hook was that we would just tell stories about the start of the beginning of the company and the beginning of the production. And make a reverse blue. And making a reverse blue.

And then we kind of half-ass machine and made it as we were doing it. And that part was so much fun. I had head bobbed in over 10 years probably. It was also interesting because then as we're doing it, same as you, like something we've done a lot in the past and haven't done it a long time. Best people in the world at 15 years ago now,

not so much fun. As we were doing it, it's like then you remember like all the little problems and all the little work around. So then it became like, oh, you see this problem we're having here, like this is the work around that you would do practically when we were filming to avoid this thing. Yes.

And then it's all people like, I had no idea, you know, I guess like it's been so long since we've talked about that stuff that like a lot of that knowledge has forgotten. That's an, yeah, that's an interesting thing too. It's because like for the first first, I don't know, seven or eight years of the company, every time we did an interview, we answered those questions,

and we told those stories. And it was like, there was, there was, there was like a, I don't know, a list of things you would talk about, start of the company, where we got the name, chupa thingy, all that stuff, that would be like, people would ask about over, that we would get sick of answering,

that we would get sick of talking about, honestly. And it was so much fun to remember all those moments again and to relive them. And to try to, like we tried to, there's this thing called the lighting trick we used to use. It was probably the most important tool in Halo 1. It just allowed us to light the characters better because a lot of the map is really dark and in shadow.

And sitting down and then remembering how to do it and then trying to do it and ultimately failing. Really? Was a lot of fun. I wonder, looking back, I wonder if it was a halo two thing. No, it was a halo one. A halo one, yeah.

It's when you talk about how it just didn't work. But it was like that when we did it. Yeah, we haven't done it in your game. There might have been some weird step we missed. It's just finicky. We would have to do it seven or eight times to get it to work. So you talk about like how we used to answer these questions

all the time and how it became like, it was just like, you would just spit the answer out, right? I remember one time I was at DragonCon and I was doing an interview and someone was asking one of those questions that we'd answered a million times. It was supposed to have been like, oh, seven, oh, eight maybe. And you know, I was talking to the reporter,

I was answering their question. And I remember hearing like, at the convention, oh, eight maybe. And I was talking to the reporter, I was answering their question. And I remember hearing like, at the convention, they had paged somewhat. I thought like there was something going on with like, home star runner. And I was like, oh, so like, I tuned out of the interview, still talking, listen to the page, and then came back. And I was like, my mind went away

while my mouth was still giving the answer. You know, my mind focused on something else and was like, okay, that's, I'll do what that later, it came back into the present. Now, that's a combination of three things going on there at once. One, you know the source material so well, you're honestly on autopilot,

and we were on autopilot for so many years in those interviews, right? Two, you have that kind of brain, and it takes a certain, like you can micromanage. I think the calls are real. But three, and it's the big thing there is that you've managed a call center and that is a fucking skill that you will have for the rest of your life.

You can listen to multiple conversations at the same time, right? Enough to understand them all without losing any of them because you had to, because we had to listen to 20 people on call at the same time and you had to listen for the problem moments and the warning signs and pay attention. And yeah, that's a really unique skill

that I think you'll have for the rest of your life probably. Yeah, I don't know if you remember. Talking about the call set, we talked about that place a lot, right? We, for a while, we did these outsourced calls. Should I say that? We did this outsource phone company calls. Where it was like, there was like a new phone

that had come out and everyone wanted it. And like it was so, they were getting so swamped with calls when people asking about the phone that when their call center was busy it overflowed to us. And it was just like taking names and then like lead generation, right? For sales.

So it's like you didn't need tech people to answer those calls. It was just like whoever, they just needed to answer the phone and like take down name and contact information and then route it to the appropriate salespeople. All they did was fill out a form in a web browser and hit something, right? It was all taken care for them.

And I remember we had this problem where, for some reason, when we were getting, and we had like separate reps for that, because these were not tech savvy people, they just needed to take the call. So we had separate reps for that. And I remember we were having a problem for a while where those calls were dropping.

And we couldn't figure out why. And I was sitting around with Ray. You know, Ray was working on recoding the ACD at the time. We had that. Do you want to say what an ACD is? It's an automatic call distributor. Okay. It's like when you call a call center,

it's like the software that knows what it's called. And then knows, you know, which agent to route it to? Who's available? Who can be available? Who's available the longest? That kind of stuff.

So Ray was working on recoding the ACD and I had installed a new phone system. So we were sitting there, I remember. We were watching the raw ACD feed, which is like watching a computer error log, right? It's just like, everything the ACD's doing. It's like the matrix. It's like the matrix.

It's like all the code coming through, like calls coming in, where are they getting routed, who's doing what? I remember we sat there for like an hour to watching the ACD in real time, and we were like, one of the agents just hanging up on people. What? Yeah, and we were like, her, over there. That's why our calls are disconnecting.

She's like answering the phone and then hanging up. And it was like, oh, you're fired. I remember that. It was like the weirdest dumbest're fired. I remember that. It was like the weirdest dumbest thing. We had to sit there staring at the fucking... Was I there? I don't remember if you were there.

I know it was me and Ray looking at it. Who are you thinking about? Who, obviously not for the podcast, but who was it? It wasn't a tech rep. It was one of those temporary rep. It was, I remember who it was. It was one of Kenny's people. Yes.

Yeah, we had staffing solutions company that would come in. And yeah, I remember that day. It was one of those people was like, oh. She's hanging up on the floor. You also remember that she put a, we had these little phone boxes that you would hit to answer that had like, it was, had like the nine digits and stuff that you could call,

but it was just like a little box that was connected to a headset. It was where the call routed through. And she just put a piece of paper over it to show that she was hanging up on people so you couldn't see the lights. Yeah, so because when you were on the phone, there was like a little amber light.

Yeah. When you worked on the phone, it was, it was illuminated. Yeah, I forgot about the piece of paper. Yep, yep, she did that. Did she say why? I think she just didn't want to talk to people. Like she just wanted to, she didn't want to work. She was just, she was like, it was like this,

clearly you gotta go and she was like, I'm out. So yeah, she was not, she was not into it. And yeah, she's like, it's just a dumb whatever job. Yeah. Yeah. I had a friend who did that. Oh, name of it. He worked like, he was in between stuff. And he's like, I'll just take a scholarship job, whatever. And he's like, I knew it was time to go when I looked at the phone ring and I just watched it and I didn't pick up which is what my job was. And realized that I could not do this anymore. You're like, yep, guess this is the moment.

That's it. And I think everybody who has to work on the phones has that moment. Yeah, yeah, it's brutal. It never stops ringing. It's overwhelming. Yeah. It's incredibly over. I hate the sound of a phone ringing,

you would walk in on a good day and a good day was when it was busy, right? Cause that was where we were getting paid. But you would walk in and there'd be a 30 call queue. Oh. And you would leave and there'd be a 20 call queue and you would have worked eight hours and it never dipped.

Yeah. Brutal. Those were the days. But you guys never, it's funny, you always talk about the call center stuff and it's like this thing happened and this thing happened or whatever. I've never thought about the work of the call center.

We worked so much and so hard. Never once thought about what the job was. You basically put Gus and I in there and we had to be, to be a tech support agent and internet tech support agent in 1999 and 2000, you have to be the most patient human being on Earth. Gus and I were probably two of the least qualified people for that part of the year.

It's amazing, but I'll say this, we fucking did it and we succeeded, we excelled at it. But man, I couldn't imagine going back and having to hand hold people through typing their password. And it's not like, there was no, you couldn't remotely control someone's computer, they weren't connected to the internet,

even if they were, it was like a dial-up connection at best. Some people called up with like, you don't know what they were calling up with, you know. There was one time, I had to play paper rock scissors with a callback. It was, there were two level two techs on the job that day. It was me and John. And we had a callback and we both looked over the notes, we're trying to figure out who's gonna take it. And the notes were, the level one day was me and John and we had a call back and we both looked over

the notes who are trying to figure out who is going to take it and the notes were the level one tech was talking to this woman she has windows 3.1 the level one tech walked her through deleting her wind.ion i file call her back and recreate her wind.ion i file so her computer will will boot again because now it's only booting to DOS fuck me did and me and John looked at each other like we'll pay paper rock scissors, loser has to call her back. I won.

John had to call her back. He was on the phone, I think, for four hours that day, rebuilding that woman's wind on I and I file by hand, and getting her computer to boot back into Windows 31. John L, not John F. Correct. Yeah. There was a guy we used to work with named John.

And... F or L. What? F or L-O. What? F-R-L. L. What's that? Who, well both of them I guess would fit into this, but I guess L, so I was thinking of

who was every... He was like the... I wouldn't say we were the three amigos, but it was close. Like, he was close to... Gus and I were always closer, but he was right there with us, and he was like in our... Like, it was the three of us hanging out a lot, and the three of us, and I don't know why

Whatever happened to him. I don't know because it was like we like we go to lunch. It was it was the three of us It was like I don't know That's not always a little bit closer, but we hung out with that dude all the time Yeah, and we were really close with them and it just he just disappeared. He was the guy who won't smoke warehouse He was the guy who owns smotware And he I liked him so much. He's a great dude. I really enjoyed that guy. I wonder what ever happened to him.

It's weird how friendships have been flow. They haven't flow. And like, by all, he could easily be a founder of R.O.R. He could be sitting here too. Yeah, he could be sitting at this table with us right now. Wow. And it just didn't happen that way. That's crazy.

And for no reason. It wasn't because he wasn't, like we didn't like him. He might have. He might have. Yeah, I had another job or quit, and then you know, we just, you lose touch with someone. Yeah.

Wild. We're getting close to time, so we should talk about the coffee. Yes, we should. Can I tell you one old Rischtie story here? Please. I don't think I told this, because it just popped into my head

when we were across the street at Fleet, a couple months ago. Yeah, we were real close to fleet. Because we're real close to fleet coffee, which is one of our highest-rated coffees. And we were talking a lot about like the Cavalier. And I think we talked about Garmons over there, which is being rebuilt as something else was sandwiched place. But it just struck me when we were pulling in that I took a call from Garmons once and it was Lewis right after he started working with Lewis

Medina who no longer works at Rouge Teetheth but did for a long time and was like seven years I think and was integral in a lot of what we did. And he called me and I went and I took the call in the back alley and I paced that back alley for an hour and a half on the phone with him and that phone call that day in that back alley is where we built out the Let's Play family. Really? Yeah, we built the whole thing out on the phone. Wow.

He's still in LA or New York. He wasn't an Austin yet. Wow. And we just like, I don't know why, just popped in in my head. But I remember like, I remember thinking as I was walking up and down the back alley. Like, I wonder how many times I've, like I've paced back to the records. I probably have the record to this day of most people, most paces behind that building. Congratulations.

Thanks, dude. It's good. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just popped in in my head. But like, the whole like, who building. Thanks, dude, it's good. And yeah, I don't know, I just popped into my head, but like the whole like, who to go after, creatures, kind of funny, that whole thing, was all in one phone call behind that building. Yeah, anyway, how's your coffee? I wanna know what you guys think of Desi Nudo.

This is one of the most requested coffee spots for us in a podcast where people don't really request coffee spots. I will say, I think it's very telling that all three of our cups are empty and have been for a while. I don't know if I've ever seen it like this. The coffee was excellent. It's way more mild than, no, not mild, mild, not the right. It's way more smooth than most Americanos that I get. It was so easy to drink from the first sip all the way through to the end. We are like in a coffee renaissance between this

and Eribeen. Yeah, we're Eribeen. Eribeen. Eribeen. This was really in a different way, very different than those other places. This was so smooth and easy to drink. I don't know what to say about it.

It was awesome. I also got to say like the vibe here, the environment, it really adds to it. I know it's just a trailer park, like every other trailer park in Austin, but this one has a good feel to it. It's a good crowd. It's the right amount of busy.

Well, there's food and there's coffee. Yeah. There's in their space. Yeah. What's your number to you? Man, I would give this like 9.5. I don't know, this one's fucking excellent. What do you think?

Maybe 10, man, this might be the best. We'll give it a 9.1. Is it 10? Yeah, this is. This is the best cold brew I've had in Austin. Phenomenal. I'm gonna put it up there with the ranks of fleet and all gamis and Irene.

I don't know that it's better than any of those, but it's not worse. I would put it up there. I think this might be better than all those places. When we leave, I think I'll get mixed up my favorite. I have to get a drip coffee when we go. Because I got the cold brew. I was texting a friend, my friend to a coffee rister,

and he was talking, we were talking all weekend. I'm like, going to Des Nudo on Monday. He's like, I haven't been so many people tell me to go. I said, gonna be worth it, whatever. It's worth it. A lot of that conversation, I texted him and I'm like, going to Des Nudo on Monday, he's like, I haven't been so many people tell me to go. I said, gonna be worth it, whatever. Yeah, it's worth it. A lot of that conversation I texted him, and I'm like, I hate to tell you, you gotta make a trip out.

It's worth it. It is. Oh my God. This cold brew is like drinking fruit juice. It was so sweet and fruity and almost no bitterness. It has a sourness that I really liked, but not overpowering. It had a sweetness like fruit.

It was so easy to drink. Sometimes you get cold brew that's over-extracted or it's been sitting for too long. Taste dark. I think that these beans aren't going between a lot of people. I think these beans are going straight from If I had to guess like Columbia to here because they are those are

Hi, that's a high quality couple coffee for what for what we just paid to coffee should be more so much more expensive Than it is for what we paid, that is an incredible couple of coffee. There's a line to get off. The irony too is that this is one of the four highest ranked coffee shops. We've run it. Among the four hot, now we have four. And you could, this is so close to the other ones. It's right.

That they can throw rocks at each other. Absolutely. It's right next to flea. This is coffee alley. Yeah. It's coffee alley. Yeah. It's coffee alley. Yes. So when we're going to road coffee alley, baby, I like the idea of sort of an NFT moment,

but like we're creating a heat map of the best coffee in Austin so that you can get the best cup for no matter what part of town you're in. Like if you're down south, you know you got Irene being on the bar. If you're up north by the domain, you know you got all gimmicks. If you're on the east side, you have your choice now between fleet and Desnudo. What about that trailer? Over by... Oh, oh, oh, oh, and there you go.

And on freewheeling. Freewheeling. Freewheeling. You got freewheeling down there. It's not a coralsnake. That's right, and for the coralsnake. That's right. Between freewheeling.

Fuck, I forgot about freewheeling. Yep. Are we being... I'm like, we've been on a fucking tear for best. That's why I was like, man, I kinda rate this that high. We've been, everything's been amazing lately. I'm definitely more of a hot coffee drinker. It's too hot to do it right now.

This cold brew is, man, it really is next level. I didn't, I really was so skeptical going into this. It was like watching Oppenheimer where I went, I don't know if I'm really gonna like this. And then left I went, fuck, that was pretty amazing. That's speaking of Lewis earlier. I owe Lewis for the rest of my life

for turning me on to Cold Brew because I was a hot coffee drinker. Like you, I would have ordered a hot coffee here, 110 degrees and drank it, but learning the love of Cold Brew has really made life easier. It's really, a lot of places do it really well. This is definitely one of those places.

I really, really, really, really, really recommend this. I'm gonna get a drip coffee when we leave. Just like the regular, I have to try. If that's how good their cold brew is, I have to try the regular coffee. Yeah, absolutely. I'm floored, I can't believe it.

Worth it. It definitely is good as everybody said it was. Yeah, and that is, that's the part that I'm having trouble really coming with. Well, especially in a city like Austin, you know. Everything is overhyped in a way where I just go, cool man. This lives up to it. I'm really carried. My buddy Robbie is the my roaster friend and I'm really curious to see what he says when he comes over here and tries this. Let's get into an

anarchy question. This is from Greton who corrected me on their name pronunciation. It's Grete Ton, but even my friends pronounce it wrong. Well guess what? Spell it differently. Get your friends. What's your favorite local commercial? Oh, you do no baddy black will? The fuck dude dude. I was gonna hit with like a fucking I was gonna hit with some law shit, but he oh man. So I was gonna I was gonna hit with like a fucking, I was gonna hit with some law shit, but he, oh man. So I was gonna go like Lorenz and Lorenz or something, but Gus nailed it. There's no better answer.

There was, it was only one commercial she ever ran. It was a lawyer, Betty Blackwell. Okay. She ran this commercial forever in Austin, like in the old standard definition, you know, 90s days, or just like, you don't see it, it's like a woman talking on the phone, you don't ever see her.

It's on you, too. Yeah, and she's like talking to someone else and they'll say, you don't hear this out of the conversation, she's like, yeah, someone so in trouble, he needs a good lawyer, we don't know what to do. Oh, you know Betty Blackwell? And then it cuts to like Betty Blackwell,

like, hi, I'm Betty Blackwell, I'm an attorney. And this commercial rent for decades. And then, you know Betty Blackwell, I'm an attorney and this commercial rent for decades and then you know Betty Blackwell and once you know HD TV came around everything was broadcasting HD's they still continue to run this like four three SD commercial and maybe 10 15 years ago They finally updated it where it's like they reshot it. Yeah, the same commercial in HD Well, why would you if you got the right script? Maybe just do it again. And it was just an older Betty Blackwell at the end.

It was like the Lucas cut. Yeah, it was, it was amazing. I think that is forever. Like the fact that it persisted and that it jumped, they remade that commercial for the new HD format. I think Betty Blackwell is like the ultimate local Austin commercial. It's funny too, because I was having this conversation

with Emily not so long ago, because she grew up in Houston. Uh huh. When we were talking about like mattress, Mac commercial, just doing the two. And I was like this conversation with Emily not so long ago because she grew up in Houston Uh-huh, we were talking about like mattress Mac commercial Yeah, I was doing it too and I was like yeah nothing beats Betty blackwell And she's lived in Austin for like 12 years 15 years maybe it had never to hurt it So we've looked it up and I showed it to her. Oh, that's fun. It's still just on YouTube if you want to see it I don't you do know Betty blackwell Awesome. Just fucking like I'm Betty blackwell

Do you have any others that that popped a mind for you? I mean, all the lawyer commercials are the, oh, uh, who's the dude that dresses up like a pickle? Uh, Scott Elder, Scott Elder, he has not had a commercial in a while. No, not in a while, but yeah, yeah. That was fun. What's the thing you, honey? I will say, the thing about him is John, last week tonight, which John Oliver kind of

ruined that for me. Like John Oliver's all over Austin commercials. Well, it's, like, those commercials, those Scott Elder ones, aren't unique to him. It's like a package that car dealers can buy. And like, he showed other versions from other states like, it's the exact same script, it's the exact same execution.

It's like, oh, it's just a copy paste for whatever local market you're in. So I kind of ruined it for me, thank God. There was that moment there where, you know, radiant plumbing, they have goofy, like, Avengers commercials and shit, and John Oliver was off. He discovered them and played a couple of commercials on it on last week tonight, and then he got them to put him in a commercial supposedly.

Oh, that's awesome. No, they made a commercial based on a script. He wrote. It was for Magnolia. Oh, that's funny. How goofy. Oh, that's good. I want to watch the Betty Black hole.

It's so great, Dave. It's so good. I want another cup of coffee. Hey, if you want to follow us on social media, you can add animal podcasts on Twitter on Instagram. You can send your anarchy question there. You can also go to our slash animal podcast, which is a fan run sub. I want to be really clear about that.

But this is a very good episode. Don't forget to send that gum to leave. Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, we need to send the gun to leave a bubble gum. We're gonna contact Levi today Mm-hmm, and then let's also not forget that if you enjoyed this podcast We have many great other podcasts for you to consume Gus is on a D&D podcast called Tales from the Stinky Stinky Dragon Jesus Christ. Hail from the stinky dragon I do a podcast with Eric called Jesus Christ. Hail from the stinky dragon. I do a podcast with Eric called F star star K face. That's how you have to search it. Yeah. You won't find it any

other way. You could try to type out the word. You won't find the podcast. Obviously this podcast and the and then I do a podcast called So All Right. Just started. Seems to get. See a few rave reviews. People are very into it. Very excited. I think we have one more episode here before we go to a two week break. So Gus can have a little bit of downtime away from us. Yeah, I'm going to go fly. He needs his break.

He definitely needs his break. Mental health. So we'll have, so we won't miss any content because we'll have two weeks of supplemental for this. Cuck, Eric and I do work. That's right. Hard workers here for the company. We're company men.

Um, but you follow us at Anne of a podcast. See all the pictures from this and every other episode. Yeah. Any final thoughts? Strong words. I'm just gonna do a coffee if you're in Austin. Yeah, did Austin's no longer a foodie town. It's a coffee town.

Forget about it Jeff. It's coffee town. Oh, good morning, guys. So I don't have enough podcasts, not enough places for me to spew nonsense. So I started a new one. It's about things that are interesting to me. Who shot J.R.? Irish folk music?

What happened to Acapulco? Hopefully you will listen to it, and you'll find out the answers to these and other in-name questions. Alright.