ANMA - A Complicated Relationship with the Fries

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

Good morning, Gus! For our last episode of this little run, we're doing burgers again. This isn't just any burger, this is Gus's favorite burger: Hillbert's. Gus and Geoff talk about Writer’s strike, Prestige TV, Geoff’s driving, The weather and the water, Radical responsibility, Gus’s favorite burger, and Hillbert’s customers. Sponsored by BetterHelp http://betterhelp.com/anma and Henson's Shaving https://hensonshaving.com and enter ANMA at checkout to get 100 free blades with your purchase. Note: you must add both the 100-blade pack and the razor for the discount to apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the last episode that we have before a two week break where one of the episodes we've already recorded for the two week break. So we only, we're only on the hook for one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Last time we read Disnudo Coffee. So good. Yeah, we talked about the Bubblegum winner. We talked about audience interaction.

For some reason we talked about lost. We talked about card breaking collecting, 20th anniversary red versus blue, outsourced call center calls, smut warehouse again, and Betty Blackwell. Oh, that was all last week. You do know Betty Buckle? You do know that? I wonder, we're talking about lost last week.

I wonder what is, I don't know if you go back to the beginning of RT, or maybe just go back to the beginning of podcasting, so RT, or drunk tank episode one, which would be where our podcasting journey began. I wonder if you go back What is the longest conversation we've had? Because lost now started at some point in there and it's still being discussed. Yeah, we I would say that drunk tank was initially a lost podcast I think 70% of our episodes were lost centric. Yeah

For the first couple years lost, lost around 2004 to 2009 or 2010, I forget what it was somewhere around there. So it was right when we were starting that podcast because that podcast started late, oh wait. I've never been, I've never gone so into and then so quickly out of a show as I did lost. I was so into it for like three seasons and then I just read the entire last two seasons

on Wikipedia. Every day, like when the new episode would come out, I just go to Wikipedia and read the summary. What's funny is, you know, history is repeating itself. I think what really hurt lost and killed it back then was the writer's strike. Yeah. You know, you ended up with, I think two truncated seasons

and a lot of stuff that just got really messy because they didn't have riders, like they didn't finish the story. And to be fair, they didn't have much of an idea where they were going when they started the show. Yeah, and I think that's fine. I think some people really hate that. I think ending a show is very difficult.

Oh, I agree. I think most, and I think people were generally unhappy with that because it didn't go in the direction they wanted it to. I thought the ending of Lost was fine. I liked it. Yeah, I thought I was totally happy with it. I had no problem with it. I couldn't get interested in the entire last season personally. But I think that we do endings well now.

I think a lot of TV shows are crafted to only be a certain runtime these days. Like killing Eve at a great ending. I don't have to give her a watch session. Great show. Yeah. But I mean, that show also, I think it's better when you have a set,

this is what we're gonna do. Sure, like the terror. Yeah, even killing Eve got a little muddied in the middle. Yeah, well there's always gonna be a little mud in there. So yeah, but I, when you're like, this is, you know, our story is what we're gonna do. I think lost, they kind of introduced some spooky elements and then didn't know what the answers were.

Like, we'll get there and they just got there in a way that a lot of people didn't like. Yeah. Yeah, it's fair. Yeah, and I think, you know, this, it's just a different approach. Remember when the bird, like said, her least name or whatever?

I do not remember the... Wasn't there a bird? You just saw a crazy bird at the beginning. I thought it said his name. That was Game of Thrones. Was it the way I'd raven? That's right, that's right. Everyone's bird's the same.

But that's what you have to do. If you have a prestige TV show, you have to put a bird in the system one's name. So something to think about. I think also being a network show, a hurt lost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

If it had been a show that came out in the team, like mid 2010s or whatever, it was on AMC. You could go in a lot of different directions, but this was a show that was on ABC and looked like it was on ABC. And look what ABC has famously done to such other great series as Twin Peaks. All right, David Lynch said,

we're not gonna solve the murder of Laura Palmer and ABC said, yeah, I want you to go ahead and wrap that up at the end of season one. Uh huh. Anyway, do another season. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wild to me.

I'm still rewatching. It's wild to me when I'm watching it to think, like this was a network TV show. I think about the state of network TV shows now and cable shows just weren't at that point. No, no, no, no, no. It would have been a totally different beast. I will say one thing that's cool about lost

is that even for all of its faults of which I feel are many, it still did what it did better than any of, if there were predecessors, I can't think of them, but anything that came after like Millie and I are one of our guilty pleasures was manifest. Very similar kind of show. Oh yeah, that's right.

Vague, sci-fi, religious premise. Very clearly the writers don't know where they're going with it. And it started off okay and then just got worse and worse and worse but we were invested in it so we kept with it. But there, your hard press to find shows, I guess there's, like you were saying, some non-network shows like Outer Range is a show that's like plausible or like weird sci-fi but in a current setting that just makes everything feel a little skew. But they're just all about to do it well.

Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, well, it's hard to do. I think like if you go too hard sci-fi, you lose a lot of the audience. Yeah, like a lot of the audience is not gonna tune in for that. Like my fiance will never watch foundation. Never watch foundation.

I watched foundation season one. I thought it was slow, but I liked it. I'm waiting for all of season two to be out for I watch it. I'm probably gonna rewatch one and then watch two. I've watched about half of one. I only bring it up because I'm watching it now. I like it.

It is slow, but I enjoy it. And I was the big fan of the books when I was a kid. So it's cool to like, to watch the show and go, do I remember this or not? Do you try to convince yourself you remember shit, but you probably don't I thought about Reveating the books in an anticipation of the show and I just never got around to it again. Oh, good morning Gus Oh, it's afternoon. Yeah, it's morning somewhere. It's it's 5 a.m. Somewhere. We're doing we did a We're doing a burger episode this week. I changed things up a little bit.

We're recording on our not normal day. So I thought, hey, why not? Not normal days letting themselves really well to burgers. Yes. I find. I think doing it, just changing it up in the afternoon and doing a little lunch episode. It's fun. It's fun.

Yeah. Plus. I'm sorry. I was wondering if I was going to talk about this or not, but I have to bring it up. Okay. Jeff, you're a terrible driver. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, last week, Jeff drove us to the recording, to Destiny of the Coffee, and then back here to, uh, to the studio. He did this all over Austin, yeah. I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry.

I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry. is. That's fine. If we take a few couple wrong turns, that's okay. I've done that too. But then coming back to the studio, we reached a point where the studio was to the left and Jeff was not in the left turn. He got in the lane to turn right.

And I, like, inadvertently, I just burdened out like, Jeff, you have to turn left. Like, I don't know what your plan is if you turn right at this light. All right, here we go. Three things. I'm going to refute your statement that I'm a terrible driver

while making some concessions and allowances. One, I think I'm a good driver. I think that we got there safely. And the driving portion was totally fine. I adhered to all the laws of the state of Texas and drove the vehicle quite adeptly, if not deftly. Two, I am a terrible navigator. You can say that I'm a shitty navigator.

But I wouldn't say that I'm a shitty driver. 2.5, that's by design. I, many years ago, I decided that there was nothing more boring than driving the same way to a place over and over again. I get, I run from boredom at every opportunity. It drives me nuts. And so I get, I run from boredom at every opportunity. It drives me nuts. And so I decided, I'll just figure, like I don't use Google Maps, I'll just go there, and I'll get there eventually. And half the time I'm listening to music, or Howard Stern,

or a podcast. And so getting there, I'm not in a hurry. I'm on my own time. I'm alone most of the time. So I just get there when I get there. And then I find out, that's how I find out about Austin and little places that I haven't seen and I turned down a road, I get distracted. Much like my podcast, so all right, where it's just me getting distracted by shit, I do that when I'm driving. I'm like, oh, I've never seen that road.

So it's like a podcast in driving for. Yeah, it's just how I, dude, it's not even that. It's just how I navigate life, right? And then three, because that was 2.5, three, I knew, and I could have talked about this with Eric before I did it. I probably should have, because it'd be funny for this podcast, but I knew that if I knew, and I could have talked about this with Eric before I did it. I probably should have, because it'd be funny for this podcast. But I knew that if I drove in an annoying manner, I would never have to do it again. That's what I was going to say, way too.

That's the Jeffway. If you don't want to do something, do it so bad, you never get asked to do it again. And when we drove out to get burgers today, Eric asked, who's driving? And I said, it's definitely me, which Jeff is never driving again. Yep. And I had the biggest, most honest smile you've ever seen. He tapped me on the shoulder and gave me the biggest grin. It was so fucking funny.

Jeff was so excited just about the conversation we were having when we were driving back to the studio. And I couldn't tell you what that conversation was about, but he was, I was enjoying it. Invested. And the whole time me and Gus are going, back to the studio and I couldn't tell you what that conversation was about but he was I was enjoying it. In vested and the whole time me and Guster going that's where to take it a left here. Yeah, it's a weird one. Oh, that's where you could have taken a left here also.

Oh, yeah, no, I wasn't paying attention. No, I was paying attention to what we were doing. We were no left only right. Yeah, we were right. Right, all right. You got to make a left eventually. We were going to head on over to batch and just that was really something so we drug us drove us today yeah drove us the great job thank you drove us the 120 seconds down the street

to Hilbert's by the way would have been pretty hard for me to get lost between here and here in the founder way I was definitely gonna go down Barton I would have gone you imagine if he just we're pulling out of the driveway at the office and he just hangs the right. All right, we're just going to go down to water, can you approach it from that angle? We're talking about it, Jeff went, you guys there have been Hilbert's via MoPack. That's a local judge for you. It's pretty good.

I saw a podcast. Evil MoPack ATX has a podcast now, I don't know if you saw that. No, I didn't see that. I think he's got like two episodes out. Should we try to get you guys on it or get him on this? I know. Is that something we should do? I don't know. Big fan of his work though. Yeah, evil MoPak. The Austin Zebra. It's been pretty entertaining lately. Oh, I sent one to Gus and the other day. I have to find it so I can read it to you. There's Gus had found other posts and he'll send them to me and Jordan, swears, and they will be very weird, but I was very happy to find this one.

Topless Made in ATX, wanting to get my wife a fun gift. Anyone know any Topless Made services or ladies who do that? Thanks. What a thoughtful gift. What am I all time favorite? The ostensor, I always sort it by new so I can see like what you're face. You have to. Yeah. And like the stuff before it gets deleted.

Yeah. Because there's inevitably really out there stuff. I've, that's one of the things I do like about Austin, I feel like the Austin subreddit is incredibly active and snarky and I think most cities probably do not have as active of a no, no, yes, I will I can I can back that up in that I am now in the Detroit and Gross Point subreddit

and oh my God, what a snooze fest. Really? Yeah. Oh no. Very little snark. The Gross Point subredd's about dead. I guess they just aren't enough people in Gross Point, or they're all on Facebook,

because they're all old. But you're boomers. But even the Detroit subredd, it's like, it's lacking in the festering anger that exists in the Austin subreddit. My favorite recently, we've talked about this repeatedly, how this is the most brutal summer ever. I think by like head and shoulders, like by a wide shot, I think I saw the other day

that we've had 40 days over 105 so far this year, could typically we might have, we used to be none, but a more typical year of this nowadays might be two. And so there've been a rash of articles about Californians who've moved to Texas who now regret it. And it's, man, it's, it's funny. It's one thing. We've talked, we say this all the time. It's one thing to visit Austin and fall in love with it when you come for South by Southwest or you come for ACL. Exactly. Those are programmed at very specific times of the year when the weather's

beautiful. But the time between those two events will fucking kill you. It'll wear you down and grind you. It'll fuck you up four out of every five years. Like they'll throw one year in there that's fucking perfectly lovely, but nine times that a ten, it's just a dog shit summer and it gets worse every year. It really does. I mean, we're in, we're already in early September and it's still over 100 degrees. When normally, like, it's normally that stops,

dude, right about now. Yeah, well, I think next week it's supposed to, but the rest of this week is like 106. Yes, I found it. Okay. It was 106 in my backyard yesterday. I think it's one ludicrous set. I'm sorry.

Would you find it? This is one that Gus sent to me, November, 2018. This is a classic Gus sent to me November, 2018. This is a classic. I want... This is my favorite one of all time. I can't believe I have this saved. I had to dig.

Austin subreddit. I want to hire a woman to show me her breasts. Is this legal? Jeff, that's the title. It did better. It did better. This is the body. I Jeff that's the title This is this is the body I want to find a woman with large natural breasts and pay her to show them to me I've never seen big ones in person. I'm literally just looking to cross this thing off my bucket list and call it good Is this legal in the city of Austin? I hate the concept of strip clubs, so that's not an option like there's a whole

industry catered to doing the thing you want. Just, just fucking go do that. I've never seen big ones in person. I wonder if it happened for him. We got to find out. I wonder if it worked out. Oh my god. I'm going to go look up his user name.

Yeah, leave these other clothes. Yeah, fellas, fellas, fellas, I did it. Oh. But yeah, it's just such a weird post. That's one of my favorites. Yeah, but yeah, the weather's brutal here right now. And it's about to change and then it'll be okay. But then a lot of those like Californians regret moving

to Austin. It's like San Francisco Chronicle. It's like, yeah, oh, yeah, you know what I'd say. Well, also, I think I missed, I watched the quote in the car, but the thing that, the thing that I, one of the comments I read in that subred, I thought that was really funny was, all these Californians were lured to Austin

for California living on Texas prices, but what they found out is Austin is California prices in Texas living. Yeah. And that, in like, in by Texas living, we mean zero infrastructure, shitty mass transit, fucking Urkot knocking on your door to turn your electricity off five days a week,

just the use. Just the normal stuff. It's water that tastes like dog shit because of zebra muscles twice a year. And the water's warm. Is your water work? Like I turn on the cold water. Like I cannot turn on hot water when I take a year. And the water's warm. Is your water work? Like I turn on the cold water. Like I cannot turn on hot water when I take a shower.

I have to take an entirely cold water shower. And it's still like, man, I wish this was colder. It is so fucking warm with only cold water. We rented a boat about three weeks ago now, Eric, two weeks ago. And we went out for a day of just an on Lake Travis. And first off, the water level was so low, it was depressing. You're gonna find bodies and boats in it.

We were, it's bad. Like, cause you're walking down to the dock. The close-up ramps through. And the dock gets further and further away every year. And you're walking further and further every year. And then when you're out there, it is like, you're just looking at further every year. And then when you're out there, it is like you're just looking at where the water line used to be

and you're like 15 feet below it trying to swim. And to your point earlier, the water's like uncomfortably warm. And it's a lot of water to be that warm. It was a fuck. It was almost like bath water. It's fine when you jump in and you're like, oh, it's not shockingly cold.

And then when you're in it for an hour, you go, this is almost refreshing. Dude, my favorite thing to do is dive. I love to dive off that boat. I love diving, a big diving guy. I refused to put my head under the water that day. I didn't dive once. I just like, I just tried water. I did not want to put my head on.

Me too. I think somebody died the other week because they had an amoeba. A fucking architect or somebody. Yeah, I heard about that. Around rock. Yeah, it was like the water's so warm that, I guess it's prone to amoebas,

or flourishing, and someone got one up the nose. This is how last of this is gonna happen. Yeah. Turn into water monsters. Yeah. The amoeba at the bottom of Lake Travis, it's been sealed away for 50,000 years. It's really crazy when you're at that lake and you kind of find a spot or boat captain

was cool. He was the guy that we'd had before. He's good to do. Yeah. I don't know what you do is the boat captain other than you just wait. You wait it out until they're done swimming because they're there. Nothing for you to do, but he took us to a spot. He's like, Hey, do you guys want to hook up with like the party barge?

Or do you want to find your own space? And it was 15 people going aren't space. It's our own space. Yeah, that's further away. Thank you. He's like, how's this? Or like, can we go a little further going? Can we go further?

But we're in the middle of everything. And it was there were some boat like ramps, ramps, ladder steps that went from where they naturally ended down to where their boat launches are from like these homes. And then there are some that didn't bother to do it. And it is so far from the waterline. In a way where you go, I don't know how there could be, how there could have been that much water in this place to raise the water level that high.

And at some point, how will there ever be? There will never be again. Yeah, right. It would have to be so much rain just in like Travis only for a very long time. Every garden hose in Austin couldn't fill that pool. Maybe we should work on that. Start opening this open spigots. Sometimes I'll see a guy on TikTok who just goes to public spig'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say,

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I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, It'll get back up. I think we said the same thing after like the droughts like Kony 11. There's two that's well. Eventually what'll happen is like a hurricane will come and hit the Texas coast and then come right up here and then dump like a week's worth of rain.

Well that's the Burning Man stuff, right? Like all the water that's going through like Vegas and it's like, well they're just not, like the infrastructure, like they built those ducks and everything we talked about this I think. But that's what it's for. It to get that water flowing into, you know, Lake Mead and Havasu and all this stuff,

but at the same time, you have Burning Man, which is in the middle of the desert. It can't handle any water because again, the desert is just the bottom of a lake, but all the water is gone. So when it rains, it doesn't just get sort of muddy. The lake starts becoming the lake again and it bucks you up. It's really bad. Man, not to put the phone to that burning man thing. I don't know, I got no issue with burning man.

I think burning man is just fine, but I will say, I saw that interview with Diplo after he got out, wanted a dip shit. He took my sas and he was just like, yes, a me and Chris Rock and Cindy Crawford and Austin Bollard, like all of our best friends. We're like, look, and we're just gonna walk our way out and we watch for like three hours. It was really hard. You know, like, God damn it.

I thought that was gonna go really bad. I thought it was gonna be like a huge humanitarian disaster going on. You know what? You know what? Yeah. You know what, having known a lot of people that have gone to Burning Man religiously and Gus, you and I knowing somebody who's involved in the running of Burning Man, you probably don't remember. Uh-huh. Somebody that we like who's involved

in heavily in Burning Man. I would say that if that, if any festival were designed to survive a catastrophe like that, it's Burning Man. Yeah. I mean, those people are from, from I've never been but from what I can tell They take it very seriously they and they want to make sure that it continues to happen So they clean up after themselves and they police themselves very well at least from what I see right and

They are all about radical responsibility, right and freedom and so I think that they acted like adults and took care of it. I think there is, like with anything, right? There's a core group who believe that, but I think as the event becomes more popular, more mainstream, you get a lot more people who aren't. Like I think that was one of the big complaints for the, like the people you're talking about, or upset this year because a lot of other people

who were there just like abandoned their camps and left a bunch of trash behind. So they were, now we gotta go around and clean all the shit. And I appreciate that. These people who do stay behind and they do believe in this, like you're talking about radical responsibility, cleaning up and putting the onus on themselves to clean up where other people are just like fuck ups and leave all that shit behind. But I think as it continues to grow, that core group gets outnumbered.

I think nine times out of 10 in that situation, you get a Woodstock 99. And I just think even with his kind of as badly as that went and you're right, I did see another article where it was like, who's gonna come help me clean all the stuff? Yeah. Cause a lot of people did, I guess abandoned. But I just, I think that those, historically, those people have been pretty good about protecting that scene

because it is, that's like 70,000 people descending on a place, that's crazy. That's a lot of responsibility. You know, you just think about like what can go wrong. I mean, I just think about like a pro sports stadium worth of people in the desert, like who all like. Like the Alabama UT game all in the desert. Right, yeah. That's this weekend, isn't it?

Yeah. Are you gonna go to that? No. I think it's in Alabama, isn't it? Yeah. Are you going to go to that? No. I think it's an Alabama, isn't it? Is it? I don't know. I think you're right. UT started right this last week with football and everything. Yeah. Uh-huh. Didn't realize that. I was trying to drive across town. Thrilling game. UT was right. Yeah. Fuck me up too. Like I like, yeah, man, the football stadium, which is the 9th center, the 9th largest in the world, 9th largest stadium, anywhere in the world. It's gigantic. It's right off of 35. Uh-huh. In the middle of the

system. In the middle of every night that in the middle. I remember coming to like my dad, we drove out to Austin, and he saw that stadium and just went, whoa. And it was like, it's big man, it's legit, and it's for college football, and it fills the fuck up, and people tailgate all goddamn day. Doesn't matter what time,

like what time during the day you try to drive around that area, don't. Yeah, just avoid it. Yep, all you can do. It's a fucking mess. And then I love, because we always invariably get caught on a Saturday in that traffic at some point.

If you go anywhere east of Westentech, and also you're probably gonna catch a clip of it somewhere. And we always love to try to figure out who won the game based on the, you know, based on the demeanor of the people walking. It's fun. Or based, based if you fear out, based on how early people are leaving the game.

What time is everyone in their car? I think a lot of people left this last game early one because it's a blowout, they're playing rice. Two, because it was so fucking hot. I think they were like, people needing to leave because they were just indirect sun likes. Absolutely.

It's not a dome, it's a big open stadium. And once again, it's like 106, 108 degrees and it gets way hotter and all that concrete about all those other warm bodies, you know? I've only been to the field when I see a game, a UT game like two or three times and they've had a flip in Austin, yeah. I've never been.

It's a, but I've been the reason, I don't go more often, maybe it's similar to it's like like Eric or saying, it's just so difficult to get there. There's so many people, it's, I'm not a big crowds person person You know that and just like that big crush is Is unbearable. I don't go because I don't like you tea That's fun to go see sports team. There's no pro sports team in Austin. You know, that's like the closest you're gonna get well

I guess I'm up play sometimes. Oh, I'm yeah, I'm a less I'm trying like big stadium. Yeah, how much is Q2 Q2 only holds like 25 30,000? So yeah, 22,000? I think 22,000. So it's like you can hold five of those in the UT football stadium. Yeah. That Q2 stadium is so pretty too.

And that's another stadium that's built kind of like in the middle, well, it's not in like downtown. It's in the middle of like, it's in a very packed part of the city with no parking lot. There's like, they were like, it's not in like downtown, it's in the middle of like, it's in a very packed part of the city with no parking lot. There's like, they were like, let's just build a city parking and not have any parking for it.

Yep. In a city with shitty mass transit. Well, they built it and they went, while these UT kids will come and they live on campus, well, what about everyone else? F*** them. They're not students. Yeah, pay us.

Didn't you say yeah? You a pocket baseball? You park by all gimmicks and then walk. And that would say that when I go to when I go to Q2, we park by all gimmicks and go. Uh, there was there's never park it like around UT, like there's lots, some lots. It's so weird that this city is so

averse to building a spot for you to park at near the thing you want to go to. They just don't wanna do it. They refuse, outright refuse to let you do that. It's fucking crazy. I just wish there was better, if they're gonna do that, which is fine.

You can do it. They have better public transit to get people in and out of there. It's what public transit. You keep saying better. What? There's a train stop people in and out of there. What? Public transit. You keep saying better. There's a train stop not too far from there. From Q2? Yeah.

That's true. And I did take it one time. In your face. I did take it one time. And on the way there, a lot of fun. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. On the way back, you want the songs to stop. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

But you're on the train with all the supporters section and brother, they're hyped. And also maybe more buses just to get people. That would be it. Right. That's all that we can work with right now. Do you think there will be a light rail thing that goes from downtown to the airport vice versa?

Do you think eventually that will have to happen? I think in, so, you know, the city of, the voters in Austin approved a bond package to build public transit and light rail a few years ago, and you know, they're still in like the design phase and, you know, very early in the construction process. And I think as costs have increased, they've had to try to scale the scope of the service down.

And I believe that the airport to downtown portion was cut, if I remember right, and is no longer part of the active development. I feel like I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again, there is a bike trail. The goes from downtown to the airport. Yeah, just get off the plane. Get on a bicycle. Grab your bag. Where's the bike rack at the airport?

It's a hundred eight degrees. It's right next to all the Uber lift cars. It's in the blue parking. There is one. Oh, okay. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah.

So I, I, I think eventually, yes, there will be, but in our life, I don't know. It would be, it would be great if that existed. In my life, Augusta's life. Augusta's in our life, I don't know. It would be great if that existed. In my life or Gus's life? Gus's life? Well, I don't know. Yeah, your life, yes. Gus, so in the next two years, I don't think, yeah, maybe not.

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Next gen gaming is built with Intel Core i9 processors. If you aren't familiar with Texas, living in Texas and Texas politics, you might be surprised to find out that the rest of the state of Texas has, well, I shouldn't say that, those in charge of the state of Texas, maybe it, I shouldn't say that, those in charge of the state of Texas, maybe it's a better way of saying it, have declared open war on the city of Austin, Texas. Pretty much. Because we are the capital which they hate

with a passion, and we are a progressive and fairly liberal city, which flies in the face of, I guess, I'm trying not to say, you know what? It's an issue for them. I'll say that. I'm trying to be respectful and not talk a bunch of shit. Well, the first trading thing is all the large cities in Texas are liberal progressive cities.

All large cities are. Yeah, so I don't know where they would want to move the Capitol to. But like, Nacodotus, like the first time. Like, if it's, like who is it that's upset that Austin Pete and their Cheerios? Is it the representative from Houston? Is it the ones from Dallas? Is it the ones from San Antonio?

Cause like, guarantee, they don't give a fuck about it. Is it the fucking representatives for? I, Nakadooshis for our, maybe it's our dickhead governor who lives in the city. Yeah, that's it. That's probably what it is. And our dickhead lieutenant governor who also lives in the city. And I don't know if you generally, I would say he's the one who's getting a pee. He's currently the attorney general who's currently being impeached by his own party.

His defense was, you can't, I don't know if you've heard this. Is it the evidence thing? No, it was. I did those crimes in my previous term. Oh, yeah. So you can't impeach me for them now in this term, right? Did you see that they submitted evidence for findings, but it was just for cataloging and identifying, but the prosecution didn't object to any of it,

so everything that they gave for just like ideing and everything went into evidence. And so now everything that the defense, that they put into evidence, they're objecting to their own evidence. Oh, God, sure. It's like this rules. This is really, it's the prosecution going,

not really sure what's happening right now. This is really different. And in two weeks, we're all gonna be going, I can't believe that motherfucker got off. I can't believe he's got off. You know, still in the job. They got reelected twice, so I mean. Absolutely.

There's some, there's some. It's a whole, it's a whole state full of dads going, ah, get him back in there. He sued Obama. Yeah, sued Biden. Yeah. He hates the same people I hate. So it doesn't matter what he did.

At least that's what he says. So what do you think about the cheeseburger? Okay, okay, we would, I don't know what the hell it's. We went to Hilbert's today, which is a beloved local icon that Gus really loves. Jeff's raising his hand.

Gus, I have my hand raised, come on to ask a question. Would you say Hilbert's is before today? Would you say Hilbert's is your favorite burger in Austin? Yes. Because I get that in my head. Without pause, yes. What would be number two for you?

Number two is mighty fine. I had a feeling, I knew it. Yeah, I knew it. But we were talking about mighty fine not too long ago. It's up there. I love mighty fine. It's pretty good, man. They got some, they make it up with like some shakes

and stuff like that. That Mighty Fine burger is my... Mighty Fine. So Hilbert's, everything we've mentioned before, they used to have a couple locations around town. One of them was over where the P-Terry's is on Lamar now. That was my favorite. Yeah, that was my favorite location too.

After that, we were talking about this. The current location on Cameron that we went to is in an old Taco Bell. It's very clearly like one of those old Taco Bells in the late 80s into mid 90s. And after they moved out of the one on Lamar, that's a P Terry's now. They very briefly moved a little west of there

over Hortini boxwoods is. There was another old Taco Bell building over there that they operated out of for a while. That's gone too. I think they bulldozed that building. I didn't even look at that at all. Yeah, they were there for a year or two. I remember going over there a few times and now they're just here on a Cameron. They just have this one location.

Yes, correct. And I'd like this place. It's very much a, like going in there makes me think of going into like a fast food establishment from the 80s. Like they, even like the way that the drive-through beeps to alert them that there's a customer out there, like it's a very distinct sound. They probably have not changed the way they do things

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Sure, sure. But I used to love how they did not take credit card. They just had that fucking ATM in the lobby. And you went up there and like tried to pay with a credit card. The old 81, the counter, we're just point at the ATM behind you to get cash, which is always great. So Hilbert has the ambiance. It also has something that I love, which is clientele.

Fantastic, Eric, you loved those things. I was in heaven. That's you've seen. That's you've seen. That was older dudes, having a fucking good time, talking their shit, but they run the place. So no one says nothing. Yeah.

That's the spot. You want to walk in, you want to go to a hamburger restaurant when hopefully it becomes you eventually, but where it feels like every person who walks in the door, the guy behind the counter goes, there he is! Yeah! Come on, you son of a bitch! What's he gonna be today?

He's like, what the fuck? Like, that's what you know you're in a good spot. Yeah, when we were paying, there's a screen for like tipping or whatever, and I tipped and the guys like, all right, hey, hey, you haven't lost all your money on UT yet. I went, no, not yet, I got the whole season for that one brother and he went,

what are you doing there? I mean, yeah, this is my guy. It reminds me of my dad and people like my dad. That's what I think I love it. They have little standys on each table, like the Tell the Story of Hilberts and whatnot. And if you go there and you read the standy, it tells us how they started the place, they started Hilberts because they wanted to recreate

the experience of going to your friends house and having his dad cook you a burger, like in the backyard, and just like, I mean, like a great neighborhood backyard cookout burger. And like that's like kind of what they've always gone for with the burgers there. And do you want to explain the name Hilbert's? Oh, yeah, Hilbert. So it's called Hilbert's because they named it after their two favorite restaurants in Austin, Hills Cafe and Burt's Barbecue.

That's so funny. They just combined the name. Hills Cafe and Burt's Barbecue. They just combined the name. So it's Hill Burt's Burgers. Did they have anything to do with Hills Cafe or Burt's Barbecue? No, I think Hills Cafe is closed. They're gone for several years now, I believe. Burt's Barbecue, I thought was gone, but we talked about this the other day.

We found it, right? There is one up by the HBFFAR West still. So we mentioned Hills Cafe. We actually discussed Hills Cafe recently and Mike Pertle who listened to us. Let me know. I got a list of retractions and one of them is that we said Hills Cafe was on Lamar with Song Sock. Totally brain farted that. He sends us. I love it. Don't stop. Mike, I know you're listening to this. Don't stop sending us the messages where you go. Here's what you got wrong.

I love it. We should have Mike on some side. Yeah, I'm actually a Mike. Mike has lived in Austin longer than I ever was. He remembers a lot of shit. I don't remember. Oh yeah, yeah. He sets a straight.

Yeah, he does, yeah, he's great. I could always be sure to get a lick, a slack from Mike after every episode comes out. It's the best. I love it. I love it so much. Amy said the nicest stuff about my new podcast to me today. Oh, that's so cool.

Oh, that's so all right. You can download it now. It was so nice. Where do we get podcast? They don't have anything to do with Hillscaff air. I've heard that story, but I just assumed that they were like, it was the people from both. So if I started a place called Kermnatch,

everyone would be like, oh, this guy loves Kermy Lane. And he'd call it top lane. Oh, but I'm like, yeah, I think like it's just like, you pay homage to, you know, other businesses you like. So crazy. The things that you like. I just assumed that it was the people from those restaurants making the hamburger thing. I wonder, I wonder if that works or anything.

Could you open a McDonald's Starbucks? Yeah. Big bucks. Yeah, like the burgers. The McDonald's? The McDonald's. I don't want to go there though. That would be terrible.

That sounds funny. I mean, the McDonald's. Oh man. Oh man. But yeah, the burgers are great. They do this thing where they don't cut the jalapenos into slices like you normally get, if you get jalapenos in your burger,

they don't cut them into slices. They cut them like, lengthwise down the pepper. So you get like these long jalapenos strips in your burger, which are so fucking good that way. Pickled jalapenos. Yes. You know what else they do that I really appreciate? And I don't know how to replicate it. I can never get it right at home. They have perfect

Perfect mustard distribution on their handbrake. Interesting. Yeah, you get the right amount of mustard in every single bite I really don't know how they do it. It's really it's to be admired The other thing the like there's so many things that they do right. They also give you, if you get onions on your burger, I do. Like a whole white onion right? It's not like a dice dining where you're getting all this, like no, you have a fucking giant white onion in your burger and it's inescapable. It's so good. Were you pointing out the broiler that they had? Yeah, and they've got like an old, a conveyor, broiler. They just like slap the meat onto it and it just like rose to the

Brewer. It doesn't taste broiled to me. No, it kind of tastes back your barbecue a little bit, but like not a ton. It's really good. The thing that I pointed out is that they don't melt the cheese on it.

They just slap the cheese on when it's done and you're probably listening to this going like, oh, that doesn't sound good. No, that's good. I don't know what it is about that at this specific place. I fucking love it. It's not like it's good. I don't know what it is about that at this specific place. I fucking love it. It's not like it's cold.

It melts a little bit because of the burger. It does. But it's not like it's super gooey and melty. You know how you can grease the cheese a bit with melts too much? Yeah, it's definitely, they find like a happy meat. It's present. Also, you guys didn't get a bacon burger I did.

Yeah. You guys got jalapenos. A fucking tin out of tin bacon. I've never had a burger. Oh really? A tin out of tin bacon there. The jalapeno burgers, like the only thing thatenos. Fucking 10 out of 10 bacon. I've never had a burger. 10 out of 10 bacon there. The jalapeno burgers, like the only thing that I get there, it's so good. I usually get a jalapeno bacon burger, but I just didn't feel like jalapenos today.

It makes it, I've got any rings today, instead of the fries. I will say the fries are okay. Yeah. So fries are just okay. I think the fries, so the fries, I have a complicated relationship with the fries. I think the fries are excellent. The problem I have with the fries is that they're so crisp and non-absorbent

that they need salt. But if you put salt on them, the salt just immediately falls off. It doesn't adhere to it, it doesn't stick to it. But the texture and the cook on the fry is perfect. I just wish I could find a way to adhere my salt to it. And you've articulated that very well, what I didn't understand that I was

experiencing, but they felt bland to me. But you're right. They they look good and they're golden and they're perfect. But yeah, there's just not a lot of flavor there. But I think you're right. I think it's just the you can't you cannot salt their salt repellent. Yeah. Conversely, they give you one million onion rings. They give you way too many onion rings. How are their onions? Fucking great. They're so good. I really enjoyed them. Krispy all the way. The onion was sweet. I loved it. I thought they were so, so, so good. Yeah, that place awesome. I like, that's definitely like on my list of places to recommend

to be. And it's definitely NFT because it's out of the way. Oh, you're not. Yeah. It's like we're just doing anything else around there. We're back at our studio recording. We're usually we're out and about when we do like these recordings, there's nowhere to record there. No, like there's not anything near it. There's not anything that's like close enough. It's all parking lots.

We would have had to come over like if the office wasn't here, we would have to go over to what a Bartholomew Park or whatever. And that would be the closest spot. Yeah, it's all parking lots and sketchy dudes walking around shuffling through parking lots. office wasn't here, we would have to go over to a Bartholomew park or whatever, and that would be the closest spot. Yeah, it's all parking lots and sketchy dudes walking around shuffling through parking lots. Yep.

I, one time I was there at Hillburt's, I was getting food to the drive-through, and I was parked at the window, you know, I'd already paid, I was waiting for my food, and the dude who was working today who took our order, I saw him come out the door there on the side. He had a bag of food in his hand, like a burger and fries, I presume. And he starts walking out towards Cameron, and there's a homeless dude standing there next to Cameron, just looking around at the street

and the guy from the restaurant with the bag of food in his hand walks up to him. I can't hear what they're saying, because I'm in my car, sticks his hand out with the bag of food to give it to the homeless to him. I can't hear what they're saying, because I'm in my car, you know, and like sticks his hand out with the bag of food to give it to the homeless guy. The homeless guy turns around, looks at him and just like, slaps the food out of his hand and starts screaming at him, and then walks away.

And then like the employee from Hillburst just kinda like, it's kinda like, you can see, like, you can see his shoulders like kinda sag until like he's side. This like bends down, starts picking up all the food and the trash off the ground, putting it back into the bag and walking back to the restaurant and he's like, we lock eyes, he looks at me, and just kinda like, he's side. This like, bends down, starts picking up all the food and the trash off the ground, putting it back into the bag and walking back to the restaurant and he's like, we lock eyes.

He looks at me and just kind of like, he puts his palms up, like, shrugs your shoulders, like, what can you do? Like, puts it all in the trash and just like walks back in, gets back to work. It's ridiculous. Yeah. But yeah, you talked about like how there's just,

it's lively. Yeah, it's a lively part of town. Well, I will say, it's lively, but it attracts people that are like, the guys who came in after us and the rapport that they had with the dude that worked there. He came out and sat with them. Yeah.

That guy was like, I'm done right now, I'm on my lunch, and then sat with his buddies, and they just talk shit for an hour. It is what I would imagine would be the best outcome if you never left your small town. Dude, yeah, it's man, wow, that's exactly what that is. Yeah, yeah, big time.

Like you have a job that's whatever you have it under control and you probably don't hate it and you get to, you have an afflexibility to take a break and hang out with your friends and your friends are there because you've all done each other your whole lives. And it just, it seems like, it's a life that I, as a kid who moved around a lot, you know, I went to like

14 public schools. Oh my god In my 12 years of public I went to three schools in one year twice. Wow. Oh, because I'm moving around so much three years Three schools in one year twice. Oh my fucking god. Yeah, I went to three fourth grades and 3 fifth grade Holy shit three third grades and three fifth grades or three three third grades and three fifth grades or something. I just kept stabbing teachers. Listen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it. I was always having to, and I don't regret it now, because I think it helped me socially quite a bit, because I had to make new friends everywhere I went,

and I had to get really good at entertaining myself, which I've turned into a career. But I was the thing I always lamented. I always see kids that had known each other since kindergarten, and I just felt like there was a connection I would never feel or have with other kids like that, because I would never be anywhere long enough to build that up.

And that was always like, so watching those dudes and knowing that they've known each other for a half a lifetime and something inside me gets so envious even though I've known Gus more than half of their life now. And I have that. It's still just like it connects to some childhood thing. What's funny is to think about it.

Like childhood, like you to some childhood thing, you know? What's funny means to think about it, you're like, childhood, like you talk about that age, like being young, that childhood friendship, 99% of that is proximity. 100%. It's like, who lived close to you? Yeah. Who sat next to you in school?

Like, those were your friends just through random happenstance, wherever you happen to live or wherever you happen to sit in class. Like then you, you're still friends with these people decades later and they're like, why? Like, well, I don't have anything in common with this person other than we sat next to each other in second grade.

Yeah, well, that's the thing, right? Is those, you realize, because I ended up spending most of high school at the same school. And so I ended up developing some really good friends throughout high school. Most of whom I haven't talked to since high school. You know, you move on, join the army, you come back, visit each other three or four times,

there off of college, it's hard to sync up, you lose track, and the next thing, you know, it's been 10 years, and you don't even know how to contact them. Right. That's the way it works if you leave. But if you don't leave, then proximity binds those friendships forever, I guess.

Do you remember, this is kind of a weird tangent, but back in the late 90s, early 2000s, before Facebook, what a cottage industry it was to try to find, like to try to show people how to find their old, like high school friends, like there were like so many banner ads on the internet for like that classmates.com, like, look up your high school graduating class,

any high school, any year, click here. And now, you know, with social media being as prevalent as it is, like that whole industry, I'm sure it's dead. It was, it was an industry that cropped up very briefly. Though, because I remember there was thing like, you could like find high school photos and like high school year books and stuff. And yeah, and then like, yeah, probably that was a rise

and fall of about, it's like pogs, right? About a year, maybe, five years, and then it's just gone. Yeah, yeah, that's so strange for me. That very rapid rise and fall. Now, now with Google, just fucking you find anyone. I wonder what else is like that? I mean, I'm sure that like zip drives are one, right? You know, like zip drives became the very popular

for a very brief period of time. In our lives, maybe six, seven years zip drives were thing. And then they got destroyed by CDRs. Yeah. And then now those are destroyed. And those are destroyed by a digital media. Yeah. Or USB. Yeah. Or even the like you said, like cloud-based stuff. Like, oh, then we'd all just upload this five gig file from home. And then it'll be there when I need to download it at work or whatever. Yeah. But yeah, zip drive, man, that was a,

that was a fucking racket. 100 megabyte. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You had one. Yeah, we used to use it for like junk aim or stuff. Yeah, we store files and crazy. And what's the bigger one?

Was it a jazz drive? Jazz drive, I never had one. Was the one that was even bigger? Fucking rich people. Um, we're about 45 minutes. This one fucking flew. But um, we should review Hilbert's, what do you think? Is it a spot where you people should come eat?

What's your hamburger rating here? I'm gonna give it hamburger 10 out of 10. I'm gonna give ambiance nine out of 10 because this is my one knock. Oh, you had a knock, that's right. I wanted to know about that. I'm really granular here. The music was wildly inappropriate for the experience.

The music Gaga, the entire time over there just didn't fit. When you talk about it, it was Lady Gaga right before that. It was walk-like in Egyptian by the Bengals. Because we talked about Susanna Hoffs. And then as we were leaving, they were playing a Harry Styles song. Exactly. I know what, that was honestly, the radio was on.

They didn't pick the music. They turned on, they could have radio. They could be on a classic rock. They should have been on, it should have been a classic rock or it should have been a country station. Or a country station. That would have been it. That would have been the vibe.

That would have been it. Or even like old like Al Green or something. Yeah, something representative of the period when it was in a Tay Day. Yeah. I do like that when all the burgers came out, they had our names written on it. Mine was the only name that was spelled correctly.

You were so happy. They spelled your name with a J? Of course. They spelled my name, ERICK. And it was like, that's the Eric that you took a stab at. That guy knows one Eric. He does absolutely with the CK. Yeah.

From his third grade class, there's no friends. It's one of the other guys you can't have. Yeah, yeah, we saw you side next to him. Yeah, that's it. For me, 10 out of 10, I love that place. I think it's, you know, off the charts. It's so good. I recommend that place anytime. Absolutely. Anyone comes to town. It is a burger that I don't want people to be fooled into thinking that it is a sit down place where you get, like, whoa, this burger's stacked, and this thing is expensive, and it's like this elevated dining thing. No, no.

This is a burger joint in the truest form that your hometown has burger joints. This is that. I wanna be very clear, I hate the concept you just said. I hate that elevated burger. Totally, totally. I hate overcomplicated burgers like with Drippy sauces and all this weird shit on it. No, like the way Hilbert's make it. That's why I want a burger.

Yeah. Oh, like meat, cheese, lettuce, onion, jalapeno. Yeah. The the place that I would liken it to from my hometown would be a place in Elcahone called beef and bun. Perfect. You drive through, they have milkshakes and they have hamburgers and it takes too long to go through the drive through because everyone's stoned. And you eat there and you go, pretty fun to go burger, man.

This is definitely a nine out of 10 for me where we were leaving and I said, I think this has to get in like the regular rotation. I love that it's so close to our studio It's so close and we don't go enough We don't I've been there with like you and I think Patrick Salazar It's another another hamburger themed the problem is With the city of Austin is if you were to give

Even coverage to every hamburger restaurant that deserves it. You'd be dead in three years Yeah, you know, I'll say it's a big burger town. It is quietly a huge burger town. They don't get the credit, it doesn't get the credit for it, you know, but God damn dude. So we've never had a bad burger on this body. That's why that was our pivot. That's right.

To add burgers in it should come just because there's so many great burger places here on here. Oh, and before you get to, I see you pulling your phone out. The listener who got the Detroit Tigers gum. Leave it. Yeah, I shipped it out and they received it already. I saw they posted on the face and the Anima subreddits.

Yep. Congratulations on your winnings. Please don't eat that gum. I like that in the Anima podcast subreddit. Everyone was very split. Like eat the gum. Don't eat it. Don't eat it. Don't eat it.

What's it gonna do for you? It's, you're just gonna get sick. It's gonna be easy. It's gonna be easy. It's gonna be easy. It's gonna be easy. Don't eat the gum every time. Don't eat the gum.

It sucks. It's so bad. It's not gonna be anything that you think it's gonna be. And you'll go, oh, I did that. I thought I was prepared for it. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't. No.

It'll make you like gum a little bit less. A little bit less. Yeah. Just a little bit. Yeah. Uh, let's get into an anarchy question. Uh, you can tweet at us at Anima podcast. If you want to send an anarchy question or there's always a weekly thread on our slash Anima podcast, the subreddit that we do not run, but is run very well by fans. Uh, thank you very much. So you can leave a question there. This is from Alex M. It's a little bit sad, but I do wanna, I'm curious.

It's maybe too sad for the podcast. I lost my dog Eli suddenly this week listening to Ann Mone walking around onion Creek Park Trails was part of our routine on most Mondays. I know you guys are dog owners. How have you coped with loss? But the question that I really wanna drive at is,

are there any places around Austin that help cheer you up? That really feels like the bigger part of the question to me where it's like, is there a place that you go to that you're like getting out of a funk, you drive to this spot, you go, you bike somewhere, or something like that? Is there a place in Austin that cheers you up? Hillbirds.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. You can't, you can't be sad when you're in New York, although I'm gonna do a quick segue and a sidebar off of this question. One time I was eating at the mighty fine up at Arbor Walk. I was there with my wife and we were both sitting down eating and she was like, she kind of like whispers to me like, have you noticed the guy like to your left and across, because they have like these long tables, it's like communal scene, have you noticed that guy across and like to your left?

And I looked and it was a guy who with like a burger in his hands, who was eating it, who was sobbing uncontrollably as he was eating the burger. I was like, I did not notice that. I have no idea what was going on in that guy's life, but I think he was trying what I, no, he was trying to cheer himself up with a burger. I think he was trying what I know he was trying to yourself up with a burger I think he had just started. I hope that I hope that it that it helped him. Oh my god

Well first off, I'm terribly sorry for your loss. I know Gus lost a dog. That was very dear Yeah, God, that's not too long ago and I lost my dog of 11 years and then 10 months later lost Emily's dog of 11 years Who was maybe the best friend I've ever had my entire life. That dog. Sorry. Um, he gets it. I can't compete. It's got more legs.

That's the true value of friendship. I, you know, I share your, your pain and no, there's no trick that gets over it. You just like it's one of those things. It just gets a little bit better every day. You just have to, as my fiancee is loves to say, the only way out is through. And so you just have to feel it for a little while. And then at some point, you remember,

happy moments a little bit more than you remember, sad moments. Although I gotta say, just yesterday, and Henry's been dead for, I guess about a year now, almost a year, he, Emily moved something in the spare bedroom and it sounded like Henry, somebody threw Henry's ball and it was bouncing on me. And I hadn't heard that in a while and I just like hit me and for three seconds,

Henry was alive. I was like, oh fuck. So you probably got a bunch of those ahead of you to deal with, I apologize. For me, it's, there's, I mean, all of Austin makes me feel good. It's my feel good place. It's why I live here.

But I would say there's a bench I love to cry at. I love her at town lake in Zilker Park. I go to my cry in the bench. We talk about it in a face sometimes. And it makes me feel, it's just real pretty over there and everybody's happy. And so I just watch people and it helps me feel better. I think a feel better place for me is always may feel park.

We've talked about that before. May feel. It's like kind of a small quiet park, not a ton of people. And there's peacocks there. You can look at with a portion of weird. They are so entertaining. Yeah. That's great.

It was really good. There you go. Well, I was like, we hope that helped you a little bit. This is a great episode. We're off for two weeks, technically. So Gus is off for two weeks. Me and Jeff have. Off for one week.

Yeah. We've already recorded one, and that'll be a continuation from our last recording that we did eight or nine weeks ago at RTS. That's, we recorded one, and then we were feeling it. So it ended and we went, well, fuck you, I wanna do one more. Yeah, yeah, they should come out during our next break.

It's really good. So I'll have to record one more. So it'll be two week break. And then we back with the coffee review. Yeah, yeah, more coffee, hopefully more guests. I would love to get some more guests on. Get the portal on. Yeah, big time. I, I thought I'm more guests on. Get the portal on. Yeah, big time.

I, I thought I'm actually kind of glad we ended it on a burger episode. Yeah, Gus Eric and I were talking about this the other day. I feel bad for any coffee shop that had to follow up the run we've been on lately. Yeah, it has been a four-no-relation. It's been too much. It's been too good. Even this burger was like, I don't know, 10 out of 10 burger for me. It's like, we've been on two positive and we know we got to drink something shit.

Yeah, we got to like really undercut some been on two positive and we got to drink something shit. We got to really undercut some of this shit because if we went to another place that was supposed to be good and it was a seven out of 10, it would have been a real bummer to end this little run on. Well, also any place that was like a legit seven out of 10 after the run we've been on, we'd probably get four. We'd have got an unfair review.

Yeah. And we cannot follow up just new though with anything. No, so having a getting a burger and then taking a little break feels pretty good There you go. That'll be nice You can send us a message at at Animal Podcast on Instagram and on Twitter You can get looks at all of the photos from this episode in every previous episode You can also go to the subreddit our slash animal podcasting once again. We do not run and there's fan run But you can some of your questions there if you like

Maybe we'll read them on the show. Thank you so much for listening. Gus Jeff any Final thoughts parting words for the folks that won't hear from you a couple of weeks. Go ahead up start on Start well you guys want to start on alls. Do you know I want to go to start on Gus I'll see you in three weeks Eric. I'll see you in one week. All right. Sounds good. Bye I'll see you in three weeks, Eric. I'll see you in one week. All right, sounds good. Bye! Did you know that you can't simply walk into mortar? I'm Christa Marish from Black Box Down and Tails from the Tiki Dragon.

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