ANMA - Analogue Clever

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

Good morning, Gus! We’ve got a lost episode! Unfortunately our audio equipment malfunctioned during our real 4th episode so here’s a redo. Gustavo and Geoff head to Easy Tiger for a bite and a cup... of coffee where they talk about Tech issues, Easy Tiger locations, Old theater alley, Austin luck, Cash price, Technology schemes, 50% fan service & 50% friend service, and Ad Brad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Gus. Good morning, Eric. So we recorded an episode, good morning, yesterday as well, but the audio device, Eric's audio device messed up and didn't actually record. So that's a two out of five episodes, two out of four episodes where Eric's audio is messed up. I'm starting to see a pattern here. I'm not blaming Eric, but he's doing something. But yeah, but he is blaming Eric
Starting point is 00:00:28 I'm definitely not blaming Eric cuz I gotta work with him on the other thing. Thanks, man. So So we may not put out the episode from yesterday. Maybe we'll put it out without Eric Who knows really Sarah cut what we're definitely gonna do is we record it. I don't know what he's talking about We're gonna go back to where we recorded that one and do it again. But today- That place sucks. The place sucks, but the walk was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:00:51 The walk was great. That was a great walk. It was. Today's a sitter. Yeah, today we're at Easy Tiger. We talked about it yesterday after we were done. We were walking around. Today we're sitting around.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yeah, y'all will never hear that. Yeah. We did talk about it. We also talked about how yesterday's recording was our favorite. It was so good. It was so good. It was really fantastic. But enough of making Eric feel bad for you.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Something that he had no control over. Oh, I woke up 10 times last night with this going like, and I was just like, fuck, God damn, fuck, and then just rolling back over and going back to sleep. Yeah, tech issues suck. But we're Easy Tiger at the link. I got a good audio texture on this bitch. Do you?
Starting point is 00:01:28 Oh yeah. Thanks, man. I feel like I waited forever for this Easy Tiger to open because they announced it, they put up the signs, and I felt like it was like two years before this place finally opened. And it's just such a central place. At the time, for me at least,
Starting point is 00:01:44 it was either this Easy Tiger or the one downtown. And the one downtown is kind of a pain. It was kind of a pain. It doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. So if you're if you're not from Austin and I don't know why you would be, nobody is. Then you probably don't know what we're talking about. Easy Tiger is a kind of a bakery, coffee shop, sort of restaurant.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We went to one before. We did. The one down south, The one down south. The one down south. It started on 6th street downtown on Dirty Six, as they call it. Super, it's in the super dirty part. In the super dirty grimy, grungy part, but it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It's like just past, it was past just Casino El Camino and then next to like a river? Yeah. Yeah, it was close to the interstate. It's like the first place next to like a river. Yeah. It was close to the interstate. It's like the first place you could really go in. Yeah. Walla Creek from the River Strait. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, Walla Creek. And that was really cool because they built into the creek. Yeah, and you'd go down some huge stairs and then you'd be in this bar. It's kind of a shitty part of downtown. Yeah. And then they had like,
Starting point is 00:02:41 I remember they had like ping pong tables and shit outside. It was a big beer hall thing. It was cool. But it was really like a beer place that had pretzels and dinner. And they would, I used to get this fucking steak medallions there that they had. Oh yeah. So good. And the easy tiger that we have today is,
Starting point is 00:02:57 bears little resemblance to that place. Not in a good or a bad way. It's not a indictment on them. It's just, it's very different company or establishment now that it was. They definitely leaned more into the bakery side of it. They provide bread to all the grocery stores around town. If you go to Whole Foods right now, you get Easy Tiger Bread. I don't know if you get it at H-E-B?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Get it at H-E-B. Yep. I think that they were part, they were owned as like part of a restaurant group. And that's what was holding up the construction of this place for so long. Then I think they got out from under that restaurant group. And that's what was holding up the construction of this place for so long. Then I think they got out from under that restaurant group and that's when they really worked in Ernie's place
Starting point is 00:03:29 and opened it, which is probably also when they kind of pivoted the business and changed it a bit to what we know nowadays. They had a place over on 7th Street for a while in what used to be this really nice French restaurant that was too nice for the location at the time, like it was ahead of the game. And then they took it over and then they recently went under like that.
Starting point is 00:03:46 They closed that one down and the internet was very happy about it. Cause I read a lot of, you know, the Austin subreddit and apparently everybody hates easy tiger. Yeah. No idea. I didn't either. I guess that's something, uh, I don't know. Everybody hates everything in town.
Starting point is 00:04:02 If I remember right, specifically at the South... I think a lot of it stemmed from that South location we went to before. I think that they weren't paying out tips properly to the servers. Oh, that's crazy. I think management was taking, if I remember right, I think management was taking a portion of the tips
Starting point is 00:04:17 and they were being pulled, a few were being screwed out of their tips. And I think the Texas Workforce Commissioner, someone had to step in and kind of straighten it out. You know it's bad if- Yeah, no kidding. If the Texas Workforce Commission is getting involved.
Starting point is 00:04:32 When the state of Texas goes, hang on, your business practices. You're screwing the worker, what? What? What? What? Then it's too much. Ted Cruz is on a plane, as we speak.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That location on Sixth, where it was built into like the creek or whatever, was really cool and it would be fun around like RTX time. Yeah, for sure. Like Mega64, we love going there because it was just a big open spot, get a big pretzel and kind of fuck off or whatever. And it would be Mosquito Alley. Yeah. I like, it was like, oh, do we want to,
Starting point is 00:05:09 I mean, it was always a conversation. Do we want to deal with these mosquitoes and go to this place? Or do we want to not deal with the mosquitoes and go somewhere else? Yeah. It was crazy the amount of mosquitoes that just lived there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:21 You also had to walk through the shittiest part of 36. Oh yeah. Which, you know, it's just not fun. Yeah. I don't know. I've been followed by dudes there before. I've had to like dodge into bars to get away from people. It's also pretty smelly.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It's smelly and it's kind of sketchy. It's way worse than it used to be, you know, it used to everybody who went to 36, back in the old days, before it was called 36, when it was just 6th Street, we would park under the bridge where those- Oh right, yeah. I-35 bridge right there at 6th and 7th Street, those two parking lots.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Every single person would park over there because they were free, and then you would walk into 6th Street from there. And so that little beginning part of sixth street was always kind of sketchy because that was the first opportunity for people to try to swindle you or fuck with you. But then it just got darker and grimmer and grimmer over the years.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And now you can pay me enough to park under that. Yeah. I think you have to pay to park there now too. I think you do too. And I wouldn't. Yeah. They have like those heavy blue lights too, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah. Yeah. It's a weird spot. Isn't that also where like the Texas lottery does like It's. Yeah. Yeah. It's a weird spot. Isn't that also where like the Texas lottery does like- It's right there, yeah. It's also- Weird. Right next to that and right where,
Starting point is 00:06:31 right next to Easy Tiger actually, used to be a hair salon. And that's where my wife first cut hair in Austin. Oh, no way, really? For like a couple of years. Oh, that's cool. I can't imagine having to go to my salon job on 36th. Fuck no.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And deal with that shit. It was bad enough when Gus and I worked downtown and we had to just try to get to the parking garage. That was like a block. Yeah. But to cross one street. Oh God. You'd be like, if you left the office
Starting point is 00:06:58 after 1.30 in the morning, you just have to be like, just don't make eye contact. Oh shit. Some fucking drunk dude's gonna try to get into a fight with you. It's just like, pay no attention. Cause there was always somebody drunk and pissing in the stairwell,
Starting point is 00:07:11 working for a fight in the parking garage. My favorite was, you know, walking to the parking garage, carrying a backpack or a bag. And it seemed like every time getting asked, what, you're going to school? Yeah. Like, class? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I totally am. Yeah, are you going to school? Yeah. Like class? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, I totally am. Yeah, I'm going to school. Real original. I only hear from every other drunk person here. Yeah, thanks man. Yeah, I'm going to school. So this location of Easy Tiger, much better. Close to the old Rooster Teeth studio off 51st street
Starting point is 00:07:40 and then the other secret studio that we were never supposed to talk about. Oh yeah, so are we talking about that? Yeah, over here. Oh my god! I didn't say that. What are they gonna do? We're not even in there anymore.
Starting point is 00:07:51 We don't exist. Now, it's a gym. Yeah, it was a gym. Then it became part of our studio. And now it's a gym again. You know what it was before it was a gym? Many, many, many years ago? Movie theater.
Starting point is 00:08:04 No, the movie theaters over there. They're both. Really? I don't know if you remember this, but the cool thing about this shopping center back in the 90s, I saw Pulp Fiction here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Back in the 90s is where the Marquesa is now or AFS Film Studios. Yeah. That's one movie theater. And then on the other side was another movie theater. And the way it worked, it was the same movie theater, but you would go to the one over there. Where Marquesa. No, you would go to the other side was another movie theater. And the way it worked, it was the same movie theater, but you would go to the one over there.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Or Marquesa. No, you would go to the other one that's not there anymore. And you would buy your tickets there. And depending on where your theater was, you would either walk across the parking lot to go into that theater. Oh, crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Or you would go into the one right in front of you. But you always bought your tickets from that one side. I had no idea. That's crazy because I only ever saw one movie here and it was Titanic, which would have been like 97 yeah, and it was at the other where Marquesa is now and I got the ticket there and went in there So maybe by that I might have the order backwards. Maybe you buy your tickets over there with the other one But yeah, it was wild. I saw I saw a pole fiction
Starting point is 00:08:59 There a bunch of cool what did this is when he in a few, not four weddings. There was a- Four rooms. Oh, four rooms. There was a theater across Middle Fiskville over there. Yeah, Galaxy. No, besides the Galaxy Islands over there, there was another one over there, and then this one here, there's like Theater Alley. Yeah, this is a cool spot in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:09:19 That's where we go see, the Galaxy Island or whatever is where the 4DX crew goes and sees 40x movies and it is they really did it up so it's not what that theater used to be for a long time but theater correct me if i'm wrong but that theater is where Gus and Bernie and Matt and I got to watch an advanced screening of Spider-Man 3. Oh my god like a super super advanced screening was like something some way we got hooked up and we With they had an intermission What's good? I was like the projection had messed up
Starting point is 00:09:52 So that's it. It's it fucked up. And so they had an intermission and we went out We're halfway through the happen to the movie. We've already seen the collar pop. Yeah, and Gus and I are like we got in the hallway Gus and I are like, this is one of the worst fucking things I've ever seen. This is really terrible. Like, can you, like, am I crazy? And Bernie and Matt are over going like, what are you talking about? This is awesome.
Starting point is 00:10:12 This is like the best movie we've ever seen. Oh, no. And they're like shitting on Gus and I for being like, this is not good, right? They were so wrong. I've never seen those two be so wrong about something. They were both so wrong in the moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And they probably won't acknowledge it now. No, of course not. But they were incredibly wrong in the moment. And I am sure probably won't acknowledge it now. No, of course not. But they were incredibly wrong in the moment. And I am sure their opinions changed afterward. Right. But I just remember thinking like, how are we all watching the same movie? How are we all working together
Starting point is 00:10:32 and having such disparate opinions about this? That's so funny. The last movie I saw at that Galaxy Highland was Toy Story 3. And I went to a late night show and thinking, you know, there'd be no kids. I think the show was like at 9 or 10 p.m. The theater was filled with kids. It was a school night.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Jesus Christ. Yeah. So it's not a great showing. Then leaving, walked out to the parking lot over there on the other side. And there was a truck parked next to me. And the dude sitting in the driver's seat was getting a blowjob. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I was like, yeah, I see Highlands not for me. I'm not for me. That's awesome back. That's a member what movie
Starting point is 00:11:07 It was that we saw in Seattle We had to get on a plane like a I want to say we had like a red eye or something So we went to the movies. It was a late movie. It was like a 10 p.m. Movie and it was some sort of a martial arts film and It was me and you and Bernie and I don't know, maybe Jason or somebody that we saw it and the theater was full of little kids but it was like a grown up movie. Like there was martial arts
Starting point is 00:11:32 but it wasn't a martial arts film. It was just like, it was involved in it. You know what I'm talking about? I don't remember that. Maybe you weren't there for that but I thought you were. Yeah, no I don't remember that. Because I remember you being very upset because there was something going on there.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Like A, you were like double mad. You were upset that they were there at like 11 o'clock at night. And you were upset that they were at a grown up movie. That does sound like me. So I probably just, I was probably just drunk at the time. It's all right. For sure. This this area, there's a there's a place I love right almost right next door to this easy tiger just down here.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I don't know if you've ever been there. It's called Happy Lemon. He took us. I went. I've been with've ever been there. It's called Happy Lemon. He took us. I've been with Gus to this place. It is so fucking good. It's like just, it's primarily drinks. You can get like lemon slushies or like boba teas or essentially fancy Taiwanese milkshakes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:21 That's what I like to think of it. Yeah. But they have a thing there called a bubble waffle, which is just like a really thin waffle that's got like almost like ping pong ball size little air pockets on it. And it's just super delicious. So the waffle. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. It's so happy lemon. Yeah. It's just I mean, it's right down. It's like right next to here is the FedEx and then right on the side of the FedEx is happy lemon. Yeah. Is that a place is that Peruvian place still there? Yeah. Yeah. It's still there.. Is that a Peruvian place still there? Yeah. I think so.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It's still there on the other side. I like that place, okay. I like Peruvian food a lot. There's also a Mochi Nut here now, too, I don't know if either of you have been there. It's like Mochi Donuts. Hell, we should have gone there to get pastry instead of this.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Why? We're at Easy Tiger and you both got chocolate chip cookies. So in the last episode that never came out yesterday, I got a chocolate chip cookie at Quacks and I had a whole story about it. And I said the chocolate chip cookie at Quacks was actually had a whole story about it. And I said the chocolate chip cookie at Quacks was actually pretty good. It was better than I expected it to be.
Starting point is 00:13:08 This cookie looks better, but it's super underwhelming. It sucks. It's the world's cake-iest cookie. It's too cakey. It's so cakey. It looks full of chocolate, but somehow the chocolate to bread ratio is way wrong. It's way off.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's way wrong. You're not getting nearly enough chocolate for a bite. I don't even like chocolate, but it belongs in a chocolate cookie. I agree. And it is the glue that holds cookie together. No, I'm with you. There's not enough glue in this cookie.
Starting point is 00:13:34 No, it's a big cakey thing. Disappointing. Yeah. I'm sorry you had to pay for it, Eric. Fucking, my section looks bigger than everyone else's section. So in the last episode from yesterday, Eric had to pay. And then again, today we parked and it was,
Starting point is 00:13:51 it was a hundred percent Eric. There was no doubt about it. Yeah. There was a lot of space on either side from where the tire was. That's all Eric's part. But looking at how the other thirds are broken up, I'm just, I don't know, concerned, I suppose. That's true.
Starting point is 00:14:08 We didn't redraw it from yesterday. I feel like even if we do back to back day recordings, we should redraw every time. Yeah, I agree. And my section should be smaller. No, no, no. Or we can change the colors for people, you know? Oh.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Like maybe I just make me red next time. Oh. Interesting. Jeff's never gonna get it. No. Dude, dumb luck. Dude, it's what we were saying, the luckiest man on earth. He's never gonna, he's never gonna have to pay for the coffee. Just remember, there are two kinds of luck.
Starting point is 00:14:33 There is good luck and there is bad luck. Speaking of bad luck, I had some bad luck last week. Okay. The worst kind of Austin luck. My AC stopped blowing. No. It was in the afternoon, it was like four o'clock. Oh, the coolest part of the day.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And I'm like sitting in my house like, feels a little warm. I'd been like running around, like cleaning up or just doing whatever in the house, right? It was like, maybe it's just cause I've been active. I'm gonna go stand under the AC vent and get nice and cool. Stand under the vent, it's blowing on me. Like that's not cool air.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh no! That's just air. So I have to call, you know, an AC place and I'm thinking, probably no one's gonna probably be able to come out for a couple of days. So I call a place and like, yeah, we can send someone out today,
Starting point is 00:15:13 but it's gonna be after hours, right? So here we go, getting fucked. So yeah, it totally takes a couple of hours. Dude shows up like at six. And in the meantime, like before he shows up, I'm like, I'm gonna clean my drain line. I'm gonna like do the preventive stuff. I know I can do it.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Hopefully something works and nothing worked. By the way, I blew up my drain line. I don't know how your drain line is. There's two pipes side by side of mine. I had a shop vac. So like, I'm just gonna set it on blow, put it into one, blow it out, then put it in the other, blow it out.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Put it in the first one, turn on the shop vac and a ton of mud and shit just flew up all right into my face out of the other one you found the wasp nest I was like hmm ok holy shit well that's gone I was just covered like my face and my right arm were just covered had to go rinse that off blow out the other one didn't fix it
Starting point is 00:16:00 like two hours later at six o'clock AC guy shows up and he you know he checks the drain line too. He does all his stuff, runs some tests, pulls out whatever magic gizmos he has. Yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah, your your capacitor is going out. It's like it's not totally dead, but it's it's mostly dead. Uh huh. Like, great.
Starting point is 00:16:17 In my head, I'm like, how much is going to cost? Two, three hundred bucks? Yeah. He's like, yeah, well, you know, it's after hours and everything. So it's going to be five hundred eighty dollars. Oh, I'm like, here we go. I well, in my head, I'm like, yeah, well, you know, it's after hours and everything. So it'll be $580. I'm like, here we go. Like, well, in my mind, I'm like, well, the guy's here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I may as well have him fix it. It's like, if he doesn't fix it, there's going to be a service fee. Then you don't have to pay a regular rate for someone to come out tomorrow or the next day or whatever. You need to pay the same. Right. It's like, he's already here.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Just fucking pay the $580. And it's fine. I'm happy he showed up quickly and fixed it. But still I was like gritting my teeth. here. Just fucking paid a $580. And it's fine. I'm happy he showed up quickly and fixed it. Yeah, but still I was like gritting my teeth like this should not cost me $580. Yeah, but at least I got cooler again. Damn. Did you offer him a see if he would do something for a cash price? Well under the table? I should have. Maybe you got a capacitor that fell off the truck. You left the
Starting point is 00:17:03 door open. I saw I was talking to my dad about that the other day. That used to be such like a thing. Yeah. It's like, oh, you know, it's 3,200. We'll get it done in 11 days, whatever. And then you go, right, what's the cash price? And he goes, get it done in three for 2,000. And you go, okay, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. Faster and cheaper? Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it doesn't feel like cash price is a thing anymore. No, because everything's still like accounted for. Yeah. I don't think cash price can be a thing like in... I think cash price is still probably a thing like in Theodore Alabama or Agra. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I... When you call a company, the company is accounting for all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah, we sent you out there. Why didn't you bring in the revenue we expected? Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's like in the whole Simpsons episode
Starting point is 00:17:45 where Homer's stealing cable. It's because the cable guy comes out and offers to hook up Flanders illegally, then offers to hook up Homer illegally. Can you imagine that today? Fucking spectrum guy showed up, be like, hey, you want me to hook you up illegally? Get you some free cable?
Starting point is 00:17:58 I kind of miss that about the 80s. This is a little wild westy, you know? I had that happen in college. Did you? Had a guy who was hooking some stuff up, he was about my age, he knocked on the door and he's like, hey, what's going on? Doing some work up here.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You guys interested in cable? And I went like, ah, I don't know, whatever. And then it was like, no, like, you know, oh, grease it a little bit. Some cable, wink, wink. And it was like, fuck it, yeah. So we all pulled our, pulled like a little bit of cash and gave the you. And it was like, okay, yeah. So we all pulled our, pulled like a little bit of cash
Starting point is 00:18:26 and gave the guy like, it was like 60 or 70 bucks or whatever cash. He just went up there and boop boop, flip thing and it was done. We got, we had cable. It was the coolest three months ever. And then one day came home from class and turned on the TV.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Nothing, nothing, nothing. And then it was my roommate Paul going, yeah, they turned it off. And it was like, ah, damn, that was the best. When I was in college, I lived in, the one year I was in college, I lived in a dorm. It was a similar thing where everyone got cable. I didn't think about it.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. One day it was gone and I was like, oh, that sucks. And then a dude like down the hall was like, I can fix it. Walked over to like the box and like open it up. Yeah, like we did some shit. I was like, okay, cool, we got cable again. Like, I guess it was like in the late 90s that was possible, but still unusual.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Where it's like, yeah, a dude knows how it works. You just had to have, it was just like a tool and like a couple of things and then go like, oh, this is the thing that blocks it. I'm gonna take the thing off. And then it's like, oh, okay, now you get it. With the Fizz loyalty program, you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan. You know for texting and stuff and if you're not getting rewards like extra
Starting point is 00:19:28 data and dollars off with your mobile plan you're not with Fizz. Switch today conditions apply details at Fizz.ca. Technology has killed our ability to be little schemers. Yep, yep. Like I was thinking about that the other day I was thinking about dudes that used to get that I knew that would get free phone calls Yeah at phone machines by like wrapping tape around a quarter and then I'm pulling out You know and you just can't do that shit now. You can't get one over on the man And you know I know a big thing I'm gonna talk about this in the past about state We talked about stamps a lot I think yeah in the past
Starting point is 00:20:02 But like a big thing in the punk world and they would give you tutorials on how to do it when you would order something from a punk scene, is it would be like, reuse your stamps. Put a thin layer of Elmer's glue over your stamps so that when it comes in, you can wipe the fucking postmark thing off and reuse the stamp. And it was like a whole economy around stealing stamps.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And it's just like, just don't do that shit anymore. I think, yeah, you talked about technology ruining that, but I think it's largely the transition from an analog world to a digital world. That's absolutely what it is. And you know, you think about like back in the 70s and 80s, like the whole phone freaking scene where like a dude figured out if you got the whistle,
Starting point is 00:20:35 that was a prize in Captain Crunch cereal and blew it into a payphone, the payphone would give you free calls. It's like stuff like that. Like that just doesn't happen. It's impossible. Can't happen. First of all, you don't have pay phones. But second of all, like that analog system is just gone.
Starting point is 00:20:50 There's no way to circumvent that. That's a scene in Sopranos where two of the guys go to like a Starbucks. It's opening. It's a Polly and a... No, no, no, it's not Polly. It's Patsy. And somebody else.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I think like the tall... Patsy and the guy that... not, it's not Polly. It's Patsy. And somebody else. I think like the tall. Patsy and the guy that flipped at the end. Yeah, yeah. You never see again. Yeah. So they go in there and they start talking to like the manager like, oh yeah, hey, we're from the East End production service and you pay us
Starting point is 00:21:18 and we make sure nothing happens. And the guy's like, look, that's not like everything's accounted for. And they're like, it would be a shame if something happened. And he's like, every bean is counted. Yeah. And if I play ball with you, then I'm out and a new guy comes in and that's it.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And then they just, they walk out and they go, it's over for the little guy. And I think that's the funniest. It's like, oh, that's so great. I think that's such a perfect scene. They also, yeah, that's also like the espresso. Like this was our thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 They took it from us. Yeah. That's, it perfect scene. Yeah, that's also like the espresso. This was our thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They took it from us. Yeah, that's so good. Like fucking putting his jacket. It's so funny. Like, I love the scheming. Like it feels so 80s to have like the schemes and everything. And that was like the whole,
Starting point is 00:21:58 that Terminator 2 has him hacking the fucking ATM and all that stuff. And that was like the coolest thing. It was so like, I just feel like you, people could be clever. Yeah. In different ways in the old days. You can still be clever, but it's digitally clever.
Starting point is 00:22:14 It's tough. You talked about the ATM, that reminded me a couple of weeks ago, maybe a couple of months ago, I read a story about a guy, I think it was in Australia, who figured out how to fuck with ATM machines. Oh, I heard about that. And got like several million dollars over the course of a year.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It was like, if he could fake transactions on an ATM, the bank didn't reconcile the transactions until the end of the day or the next day. So he would make a fake deposit, do a fake transfer, get money into his account. And then just as long as by the end of the day he transferred back, everything everything was okay. Cause at the end of the day, it all reconciled. It was like this weird scheme he came up with. And got away with it. I think he eventually, he told the bank. He did.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And yeah, they, they realized what, like this weird loophole in their system. Yep. But yeah. That should be us making millions. Maybe, maybe the world is just as clever and sketchy as ever. We're just, I'm just too old to be clever.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah, I think it's- With the new society. I just think it's all in a digital space like we were talking about. And it's like- We wanna be analog clever. Yeah, me too. It's like dark web stuff is where I think that
Starting point is 00:23:23 that's where like a lot of that stuff lives. Yeah, like on like the sort of in betweens of like a lot of things where you can just go on like the regular internet, but then you go on the dark web. Then you can buy ecstasy and they sell it to you in a DVD case. Like, it's just that I was talking I was, you know, doing stinky dragon stuff the other day. And we were in a meeting and John Reisinger was talking about how he had just watched Sneakers for the first time the day before.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I don't know if you've ever seen it, great movie. Yeah. It's very much that like analog hacking kind of stuff like social engineering and like figuring out ways like where the system breaks down and poking at the edges. Yeah. And in that meeting, Blaine said he'd never seen Sneakers before.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I was like, I cannot think of a more Blaine movie than sneakers. I was like, you should go watch that immediately, right now. I can't imagine that's never popped up in your radar somehow. Yeah, no kidding. Geez. But yeah, that's very much in that spirit. How's your Monday's going? Busy.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah? It's spilled over to the rest of the week. Oh, no! I've got an uncontained week spillover. Your perfect six day weekend ruined. I don't know if I even have a two day weekend anymore. It's pretty packed. As soon as you got in your car yesterday and we were breaking, I looked at you
Starting point is 00:24:39 and I was like, oh, Gus is done for the week. Nope, definitely not. Do you guys stack it all on your Monday? That's just like where you do most of your stuff. So it varies. Monday's like primarily like a lot of our internal meetings. Stuff that we need to coordinate and get done. Then other stuff pops up throughout the week.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Like I've got two other meetings today that aren't necessarily internal meetings, kind of external meetings. And we do other recordings on, we do some recordings on Monday, some recordings on Wednesday, it's just it's just all over the place. It's mostly, we have our big meetings on Monday too, we meet for about 40 minutes. That's about it. And it's a lot of me going, what do you guys want to do? And they go,
Starting point is 00:25:18 ahhhh, let's see. It's a lot of just like looking at the list and going like, what did we record? What do you want to put out? It's a lot of, for us, because our releases are across so many channels and everything. And then we have things that we have promised to people through like Patreon and everything. A lot of our Monday is planning out the next two weeks,
Starting point is 00:25:41 which is incredible because that's the furthest we've ever planned out in the history of me working with any of these people. And then the next week is looking at the next two weeks and seeing if there's any adjustments. So it's always nice to be like about two weeks ahead. And it feels like we have so much fun recording this stuff
Starting point is 00:25:57 that it's hard to like, okay, what's the thing that we have to put out? And then what's the thing that we really, really, really want to put out? And then what do we need to get edited? And now we have like the ability, like we hired on for contract stuff, a few of the old achievement hunter editors
Starting point is 00:26:17 to do like gameplay stuff. And that's been really good for us. Oh, it's been awesome. It's been wonderful. Yeah, they've been doing great jobs. Yeah. And fast too. Yeah. I will too. Yeah. I will say though, just for you and I,
Starting point is 00:26:28 and more so you right now than me because I've been out of town dealing with stuff, but grownup meetings are creeping in. Oh yeah. You and I have an 8 a.m. meeting tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. We're like counting stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:42 But it's okay, it's with our accountant. Oh okay, that makes sense. I gotta meet with them later.m. meeting tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's okay. It's with our accountant. Oh, okay, that makes sense. I gotta meet with them later. Yeah, so it's that, and that's fine. Like, I don't mind having that meeting or something. Store meetings, though. You're not going. And now we're getting, so regulation is getting on
Starting point is 00:26:56 with the company and getting like merchant everything done. And I had a meeting with them yesterday to kind of go over stuff and get everything going and blah, blah, blah, or whatever. But like, those meetings are becoming more frequent but at the same time, I know how to run those meetings kind of like quickly to go like, here's everything that I have on my end.
Starting point is 00:27:12 What can I do for you? And then it's, you know, we have the hour schedule and we're done with in 35 minutes. That's my goal. I wish we were like that. I don't mince words. We're just trying to get in and get out. This is an information sort of gather in exchange and that's it
Starting point is 00:27:26 But I know with like the CPA one I Don't know what Yeah, that is like, oh these are scary numbers and I don't know what to do with it. So I'm really grateful that we still you know we're doing this podcast and we still talk a lot and Are still in pretty much constant communication because I feel like we've been able to share knowledge and resources during this independence journey that we're all undertaking through different channels. And I think it's been
Starting point is 00:27:56 really helpful to be like, hey, what are you doing for this problem? Or hey, what are you doing for this thing? And like, oh, I found this company or I found this guy who does this thing. You may want to talk to them. Yeah. I think that that's a really excellent thing that you brought up that I wish the audience could see because we get so much sentiment from people across socials and the internet and people going like, why don't you guys just band back together? And you know, I hate that I have to pay money
Starting point is 00:28:22 to the eat guys and the regulation guys and then stinky dragon. And then if I want red web or Best friends today or whatever I got it, you know And then it just sucks that they spread out and they're not together anymore We well clearly the the being together thing didn't work. Yeah, if it had we'd all still be together We wouldn't have all right got pink slips, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And I think that time has come and gone. And there may be another time like that in the future, but it's not where it is right now. Right now it's small, intimate groups that are hyper-focused on one thing. Yeah. But what the audience doesn't see is that, as Gus said, we are all in constant communication.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Oh yeah, definitely. I was talking to Trevor about Red Web extensively last week. And we talk about the, well, you're on both sides of E and regulation and there's constant communication there. We're constantly talking. I talk to Ben Ernst, I talk to Barbara. I mean, I talk with best friends today all the time.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Like it's, Armando is doing, it's just like, there's a lot of communication. Just because we don't work together doesn't mean we don't talk to each other anymore. Doesn't mean we aren't still multi you know, multi-decade friends. Yeah, exactly. And still trying to help each other succeed. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Because that's what we want. Like, I want, you know, you have the two-hour phone call of like, what are we doing? And talking through like a lot of this stuff. And then at the end, it's like, wow, thank you. I hadn't thought of it this way or I haven't done this way or whatever. And it's like, yeah, I want to see us succeed just as much as I wanna see you guys succeed to see everyone succeed to like do this stuff. And just because we aren't under like one big umbrella
Starting point is 00:29:51 doesn't mean that we can't do that. And we all still have that knowledge. Yeah. Yeah. And experience and we're still sharing it. Yeah. Dude, best friends today just crossed like a hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. I saw that dude, I'm so fucking impressed with them. They're crushing, but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:30:05 it's like, I don't envy that position. Cause I mean, you guys, how old were you guys when you started Rooster Teeth? 25. 27. And that is where like Sammy and Will and stuff for like best friends today, they're like a little younger and they're like, I don't want to run a business. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And they're crossing, like they have successes. And I just, you know, it's a lot of conversations about like, if you can be consistent, people keep coming. And then they cross a hundred thousand and it's like, do you guys understand that I would fucking kill to cross a hundred thousand for 100% E? And that's not even our main revenue. Like that's just YouTube.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like we, our revenue comes from podcasts, whatever. YouTube, I would love to be doing numbers like they're doing. They're crushing it. That's true, but man, YouTube revenue is such garbage. And that's the hard part, is they have a Patreon and they're doing stuff, but then you have to rely on YouTube
Starting point is 00:30:57 and it's not 2008 anymore. Yeah, I mean, we get, you know, YouTube is not Stinky Dragon's primary destination for content. We get okay numbers. So some of our shorts pop off pretty big, but man, it doesn't sustain itself. Like if that was just our primary revenue,
Starting point is 00:31:13 we'd all be out of business again. Yeah. Feel free to cut this if you feel this is inappropriate. But I think we've got our YouTube up to what's fairly healthy for what it is. Yeah. but I think we've got our YouTube up to what's fairly healthy for what it is. Yeah. But our YouTube revenue is about 8% of our Patreon revenue.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah. Interesting, I think ours. Maybe, that's in my head and I'm bad at math, but it's less than, it's like seven or maybe seven and a half to 8%. Ours is probably around the same. Yeah. Yeah, ballpark figure. Which if you wanna know, like if you're an audience member It's less than, it's like seven or maybe seven and a half to eight percent. Ours is probably around the same. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Ballpark figure. Which if you want to know, like if you're an audience member and you want to know like what the breakdown is, Patreon is like 95% of what we make. Like I said, YouTube is less than produces less than 10% of what Patreon produces and then ad revenue produces maybe 10%. Maybe, maybe, and that might be an overestimation. So if you put, if we didn't have Patreon, and we just had YouTube and ad revenue,
Starting point is 00:32:12 we wouldn't have. For 100% E, it pays, it just about pays our rent on our studio space every month. Almost. It's like right around there. And we don't bang, like our numbers aren't like banger numbers on YouTube. That's just not where we focus,
Starting point is 00:32:30 but we're consistent on it and people come through and we do okay. But it like pays our rent for our space, which is not, I mean, you guys have been to the space, which is not a lot of money at all. Our YouTube revenue does not cover the cost to make the animated content to put on YouTube. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It's like, what are... There's a lot of, there's always a lot of talk online about like, well, YouTube, whatever. And I think that's a lot of like 2012 operation. Yeah. Sort of mindfulness of like, we don't make any money. YouTube is, YouTube is the second biggest search engine in the world. And that is why you have to put your stuff on YouTube. And it the second biggest search engine in the world.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And that is why you have to put your stuff on YouTube. And it's the biggest streaming service. Exactly. And when you don't put your stuff necessarily, I don't know that this podcast is going to go on YouTube because we're not concerned about the revenue for it. We're not concerned. We just, we want to make the show to put it out there
Starting point is 00:33:20 for people to listen to, well, whatever, whatever. And if we get a little bit of scratch from inserted ads or ad reads or whatever, that's great. Then that pays for the coffee. Yeah. But like- Eric pays for the coffee. Okay, that's enough.
Starting point is 00:33:32 The thinking that like, well, you got to put it on YouTube. That's for like a growth business thing. And this is a passion project, little small thing that we just want to do. Like if we didn't put 100% Eat Stuff on YouTube, or we didn't put Regulation Podcast on YouTube, all we would get on comments and things you would hear from people is,
Starting point is 00:33:53 why isn't this on YouTube? And I know that's what we're going to hear from this podcast when it comes out. This is 50% fan service and 50% friend service. Yeah, absolutely. And 50% coffee. And 50% coffee. And 50% coffee. We're 150% podcast, baby.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And it's 200% not on YouTube. Yeah. Because we wouldn't make enough on YouTube to pay for the management layer of putting out YouTube. No. Before we launched our Patreon and did, you know, everything with Stinky Dragon, we talked to a lot of people and tried to figure out,
Starting point is 00:34:24 you know, the pricing structure and how we're gonna approach this. And we talked to another group that's pretty popular on Patreon and asked them what the thought process was behind their tiers and why they priced things the way they did. Very lucky that a lot of people were willing to talk to us and give a peek behind the curtain about how they run things.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And this group said that they wanted to put the bulk of their offerings at the $5 level, because even if a listener comes into their Patreon and gives them $5 once, and then immediately cancels a contribution, that's already more revenue than they would get from that listener just listening to ads or watching on YouTube or on any other platform. Just to put it in perspective for the listener,
Starting point is 00:35:00 like how little that other stuff is worth. It's the same thing as Rooster Teeth. We would, it was good to have people watch on YouTube because it raised what we call top of funnel and searchability. And the more views we had, the more searchable we were. And the more discoverable we were. But we got paid something like a hundred times per view more. If you just watched a video for free on our website website where we ran the ads versus watching it on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's insane. And at that point, we're not talking about like a ton of people watching on the website, but a thousand people watching on the website is worth 50,000 people watching YouTube. It does so much more. If that 50,000 people on YouTube isn't going to materially affect the searchability and discoverability in the algorithm, which it no longer was and hasn't been for a very long time. Right, right, right. And I think that there's a fundamental misunderstanding of...
Starting point is 00:35:55 Don't show my stuff. I'm trying to get out of the sun. Eric's bullying my recorder. I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding of why you start a service. That's likely had with Rooster Teeth. And I think that that's such a big reason that if you can capture those people and get them on your site, you are not paying. It's not a 70 30 split or whatever. You are getting fully that amount and you can get less views on that thing.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And then you saw your top of funnel feeders. But then when you lose the top of funnel feeder stuff, then people don't go to that site. It's hard. It's sort of like, I want to have it both ways and you can't really have it both ways. And that's why I think podcasts work really well because you can listen and we can insert ads here or whatever. And then if we got people to come over to the site to listen to a podcast or whatever, then we had the ads inserted there or whatever. And again, that's the point of having a streaming service
Starting point is 00:36:54 of that thing. I don't want one. I'm fine with where we're at, but I'm also, I'm never gonna be the guy that's, okay, I need this line to go up and to the right again and again and again and again. I and again, and again, and again. I love being comfortable and feeling fine about it. Well, I don't wanna chase views ever again.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And with the setup that we have, we don't have to, we just need to find an impassioned and supportive audience of any size and then continue to provide enough value to that audience that they support us monetarily. I will put an asterisk on that. You do have to chase the views to a certain point. You just reach that point. You don't need to go any further. Yeah. Like see if you're starting from scratch. Yeah, you do need to chase it further. I feel like I'm still chasing them. I'm still wanting that graph to move up into the right of it. We've talked about it before where I don't know that it's so much the chasing new eyes
Starting point is 00:37:50 as it is informing old ears. Yeah, you know what I mean? You have to let people know, hey, we're still making, there was a comment on 100% EAT on Twitter, this is a couple of weeks ago, and it was a clip that we put out for the podcast of something goofy happening or whatever,
Starting point is 00:38:05 Gracie being weird or whatever. And a guy who followed the Twitter, commented, oh, are they doing a video podcast now? And it's like, we've been doing this for three months, you follow this and you still don't know what we're doing. And that is so much a bigger piece of the pie than anyone realizes where people go, well, obviously they're doing regulation podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:32 How do you not know that? And it's like, well, I've watched Achievement Hunter since 2014. Yeah, it's like it's audience education. And people, I think some people get annoyed, like you're beating us over the head with this information. Like we have to. I have to say it a thousand times to catch one person that's out there that didn't know.
Starting point is 00:38:46 You have no idea how cool and frustrating it is in equal measure to load up YouTube on a regulation game play or podcast and have somebody go, what is this? And you're like, oh, that means you found it. That's awesome. And also how did that reach you already? How?
Starting point is 00:39:01 There are so many comments I'll get with Stinky Dragon, either whatever service, on a podcast service, on YouTube, wherever, that the comment will just be like, is the DM Simmons from Red vs. Blue? Yeah. It's like, how did you make that connection? Yeah. And you don't know. Let's scoot down this way. We're gonna scoot down to some shade. It's a pretty hot morning. I think yesterday and today are the two hottest days of summer. I was talking to my neighbor, Craig. He said, man, you better keep it cool today. And I said, you know it, Craig.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Open capacitor doesn't go out. He, what time did I leave the house this morning? 8.30 and he was, he was having a talk in a Bud Light. Nice. Living the life. Is that what Craig's got going on today? Oh, that's what Craig's got going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh, it is Wednesday, right? What is today? It is Wednesday. Yeah, it's Wednesday, okay. All day long. Woo. Man, I have something I wanna bring up. I'm a little hesitant to bring it up.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Okay. Let's see what you guys think about it. You excited? I got pissed off the other week. Hell yeah. I saw a post in, I do not like the Rooster Teeth subreddit. Do you still go to the Rooster Teeth subreddit?
Starting point is 00:40:08 I still go every now and then. There's not much activity there, but I saw a post. What are you nuts? On the Rooster Teeth subreddit that said something like, hey, now that it's been three months and Rooster Teeth is gone, I thought by now we'd get, we'd hear some more shit talk and some more behind the scenes stuff about what was really going on at Rooster Teeth.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Kind of disappointed that we haven't seen anything. I'm not trying to start any shit or anything here, but. Where's all the shit starting? Yeah, where is it all? I was like, you motherfucker. You bottom feeding piece of shit. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, I'm not trying to start shit, but where's all the shit?
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah. Like, man, talk about like wanting the dirty stuff, but not wanting to get your own hands dirty to get it. The post got deleted. I don't know if the poster deleted or a mod deleted or what happened to it, but I was like, man. And I just, I don't know how you have that mentality. Is it like a really young kid who doesn't know any better?
Starting point is 00:40:59 No. Or is it just someone who's just brain dead? No, it's a classic idiot. It's just one of those classic idiots. I think that there's a thinking that there's like, what's all the nefarious news in all of the backroom deals that were going on. I feel like we were pretty upfront
Starting point is 00:41:17 about most of what happened and how things went down and why they went the way they did for the better part of 10 years. I don't think there was any, yeah, now let's get after it. But I'm not encouraging it. No, like what the fuck? I'll tell you the deep, dirty, dark secret. A bunch of people tried really hard to keep their jobs by making as much content as they could
Starting point is 00:41:43 in the best way that they could. But every year that we lost employees and our group shrunk and our ability and our capability shrunk and we were in a hiring freeze. So every time we lost somebody, we couldn't replace them. And it became that much harder to shoulder the burden. And we did our fucking best. And ultimately we, in the eyes of Warner Brothers,
Starting point is 00:42:04 and I would say probably most of the world, ultimately failed. And we lost our jobs and now everybody is picking up the pieces and moving on with their lives and trying to make a living. That's the dark underbelly of Rooster Teeth. I mean, that's all it is. At some point we failed to the degree
Starting point is 00:42:20 that we couldn't continue. We failed to keep moving that arrow up and to the right. Yeah, exactly. That's all there is. I think it's interesting, you know, after the shutdown was announced, the passion that lots of these groups still had to continue making their projects
Starting point is 00:42:36 and to finish their projects out to the best of their ability. And I think you see that people really enjoyed the things they were working on by the fact that some people fought to retain the rights to their stuff. Some people weren't able to get the rights to their stuff, but have continued making content in a similar vein.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I'll tell you the real story of Rooster Teeth. If you want to know who Rooster Teeth is and what Rooster Teeth is all about, you look at the last 60 days of that company. Oh, I agree. When we found out we were losing our jobs and Jordan came in and Hannah came in and said listen If we haven't sold an ad on it. Mm-hmm. You don't have to do it. We understand
Starting point is 00:43:11 We're all losing our jobs. You guys don't have to put you don't have to keep pushing this Fucking boulder up this hill any longer. We have to we have to fulfill our obligations But if you guys want to start slowing this down, it's ending. You don't have to fucking, you don't have to put out content until the last day. And every motherfucker in that company to a fault said, no, we're gonna put it out. And we're gonna put it out to the best of our ability
Starting point is 00:43:39 until we literally can't because you turned the fucking lights off on us. And that's what happened. And that is what Rooster Teeth was and that is who those people are. That. And that is what Rooster Teeth was. And that is who those people are. That's the real story of Rooster Teeth. That with impending job loss,
Starting point is 00:43:52 for the last 60 days, they came together. We all came together and we finished as strong as humanly possible. Yeah. I knew that it was going to continue like the passion that people had and everything was going to continue when the first day they said, hey, what IP do you want? Send an email with like a list and they were flooded with emails from people internally is going like, we want the rights to our shows. We want the rights to our shows because we want to keep making this.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Like all through the shutdown, we were still making Face Jam. We were still making Fuckface. We were still making this stuff because we didn't want to stop. And then we haven't stopped. We don't miss weeks. Like we're passionate about,
Starting point is 00:44:43 I maybe wasn't super passionate about the hours of meetings that I had to go to when I was working at Rooster Teeth, but I was passionate about making the shows. And then as soon as we could make the shows without all the hours of meetings, we'll get what we're doing now. Dude, that's how badly we wanted to make the show. Yes. We cared so much about what we were doing that you put up with the meetings and the bullshit and the administrative layer and all of that because the you know the hour a day that you get to do that thing makes up for the eight hours a day that you have to do the other shoots. Absolutely true. Yeah. It really does and the beauty about where we are right now and I hope it resonates with the audience is that because we have split off into these small groups,
Starting point is 00:45:29 we have eliminated that management layer. And so now we're freer to devote all of our time to the thing. If anything, from a content standpoint, this is a should be a huge positive for audience members of all of the post-RT content. You know what I mean? Hopefully. My one nitpick there is, it's not that we eliminated the management layer, it's that we are the management layer. We are the management layer.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Sure, again. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a... But no, we eliminated a lot of them because a lot of it was superfluous. Yeah, and I do think that that's, that's by nature of growth and being a company
Starting point is 00:46:06 is that there are, you get to a point where you're, hey, we're gonna make RT Life and we're gonna make Red versus Blue and we have Achievement Hunter and then we're gonna do these shorts and then we're gonna do more live action stuff. Three guys in a spare bedroom can't do all of that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Like it has to grow and you have to have other people that like do those things. And then it just kind of keeps growing. For a company like ours to succeed, the right hand has to know what the left hand is doing at all times and vice versa. And Rooster Teeth became a company with many, many hands. It's a lot of hands.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And that requires a layer of management that is obnoxious at times, but necessary. Yeah. And here's the thing, since we've gone independent in doing this stuff or whatever, we've added what you could call layers of management. We have a merch service team, that's a management. They're managing that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:03 We have accountants who are managing the money. We have management structures here. It's just that we are, ostensibly the CEO of the whole thing. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. So it's a weird reversal, right?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Management sits below us now. Yes. Instead of the other way around. Yes. So it's just a reversal where we can focus, instead of doing, we can focus on the one hour a day. We expand it, it's more than one hour a day now. We can focus on that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:31 That's a whole Monday. For some of us, that's a whole Monday. Listen, 11 to four, it flies by. Before you know it, the day's over. Now those are some real Rooster Teeth hours. See y'all next Monday. When I first started working at Rooster Teeth, and they're like, oh yeah, we start at 10. And I came in and it was like 9.50.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm like, oh, that's good. I'll get here a couple of minutes early. And nobody moseyed in until about 10.45. And then it was everyone going, yes, what do you guys want to do for lunch? And I just went, what is this? The better was me and Jeremy in the office at 7.30 every morning, eating, drinking energy drinks and not talking to each other
Starting point is 00:48:07 For three hours while we wait for anybody Shit would drive me crazy there was a period of time where I was in one of those other smaller buildings and it was like a bunch of people in that building and but Bernie was in that building and I was in that building and And like 930 10 in the morning. It'd like 9.30, 10 in the morning, it'd be just the two of us in the entire building. We'd walk out into the middle area and be like, what the fuck is happening?
Starting point is 00:48:29 Where is everyone? It's just you and me here. It's been 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think after that conversation, there wasn't a lot more Bernie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Bernie was like, I need the fuck out of here. It has been 20 years. The end. And these motherfuckers are, and I'm still the only one here at 9 a.m.? All right. We should talk about the Easy Tiger coffee and cookie and everything. I finished my coffee all the way and so has Jeff. Gus, thoughts? I'm not a big fan of the Americana here. I almost, when we were ordering, I almost ordered something different
Starting point is 00:48:59 because there is another drink I like more. But the Americana, it's very different. It's a little bit more like a I'm not a big fan of the Americana here. I almost, when we were ordering, I almost ordered something different because there is another drink I like more. But the Americana, it's just a little tough to drink here. It's not my favorite thing anymore. You are.
Starting point is 00:49:13 When we- You finished about a third of it. So yesterday in the last, in the last episode at Quacks, I said that I don't, I ordered an iced coffee. And you asked me about it. And I said that I know I don't like their iced Americanos so I ordered something different. And I was pleasantly surprised with the iced coffee.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I almost did the same thing here again, but I couldn't do it two in a row. I went back to the iced Americano. It's just not my favorite. And I know it sounds like I'm going to hate on this place because the Americano is not my favorite. I didn't particularly care for the cookies just fine. But I do like Easy Tiger.
Starting point is 00:49:44 They have tons of good baked goods. They have tons of good baked goods. They have tons of good coffee drinks. This is not it for me. They also have, and this is a big deal to me, maybe not anybody else, great branding. Oh, I love it, yeah. They have wonderful merch. They have wonderful branding.
Starting point is 00:49:56 They have a great aesthetic. This paper under the cookies with the little tigers on it. They have, it's like the little, they go the extra mile in little ways that I really appreciate. So besides, you know, we talked about the big, formerly big risky studio over here that's now a gym. We also used to have other space over there by the Marquesa.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And I worked out of there for a while during the return office. I worked out of that office for a year or two. Yeah, before moving back over to stage four. And so when we worked over there, I would constantly come to this Easy Tiger and get drinks and pastries and whatever. A sausage?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah. This was where I would come to have a one-on-one with like Alan or Jeff Yetter or, you know, whoever I had to have some sort of a management style conversation with that nobody that needed to be away from the office in case things got yelly or whatever. You know what I mean? Had to have a lot of those conversations here.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And maybe that's why that's the first thing that comes to mind is stress when I come here. I also had three cups of coffee before we came here this morning. What? Yeah. I had more. Are you serious? How many? Three.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Jesus Christ, why? That's my normal day. Three cups of coffee in the morning? Is your normal day? Every day, normally. We met at 9 a.m. Did you just wake up, walk into the kitchen and go like one, two, I'll take it easy on the third one right before I get up to work?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Like what the fuck? Yeah, I wake up early and like I said, if a coffee maker has a timer, by the time I'm up, it's ready, it's done. I now have three quarters of a cup of hot coffee in the morning and I'm good. I don't ever finish it. I can't, Emily always makes me coffee in the morning.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And I always just get like three quarters and then I'm good. I don't even finish it. I didn't, like if we were meeting at 10 today to do this episode instead of nine, I would have had a cup of coffee before I came, but not this morning. My coffee maker, the minimum coffee it makes is four cups.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Okay, so. And my wife only drinks one, so there's another three. I'm like, I'm not going to waste the coffee. And I'm not going to waste this bean water. So I drink it. I'm not wasteful. I'm not a fat cat. My parents were in town and my mom drinks like Mr. Coffee, like drip coffee or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:58 So I'm not going to sit there and go pour over and all this stuff. She just wants the cup of coffee and says she can put milk and everything in it. So I actually, I have a Mr. Coffee from a friend that used to live with us. So I made a big pot of coffee and she would have one cup. And then I fucking did all weekend. I did this shit where I had every day, I just would finish a cup of coffee and go,
Starting point is 00:52:19 oh, there's more in the pot. And then you fill it up and you drink it. And then you fill it up again. I just go like, I had three cups. This is not good. That's not how it shouldn't be at that level. And then boom, you're done. The rest of the day, you're set.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Dude, I was flying. Every day's a great day. God damn. It like, if I really made a, if I had a coffee maker with a timer, it would be dangerous. The worst is sometimes, let's do a little secret.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Sometimes around one o'clock, I'm like, I go for a little more coffee. Yeah. Gotta make four cups though. Yep. And there we go, it's a seven cup day. I love that this dude drinks coffee like he's working seven days a week on a one day a week
Starting point is 00:52:53 schedule. On a one day a week schedule. I like everything about Easy Tiger except for this cookie. And this is a seven coffee. I get it. It's fine. The iced coffee is a six. God, it's so good. I actually think it's on,
Starting point is 00:53:08 it makes me want to go back and lower my rating from yesterday, which ultimately doesn't matter because that episode got lost. I think yesterday was a 7.8, but upon today, I think they're both just seven. Okay. Yeah. In the last episode I said, I felt like you were a little generous.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, I think I was too. And after having today's coffee, which is pretty much identical to that, it's just a seven. This is like a six. Yeah. It's fine, it's whatever. Yeah, that cookie is kind of wack. I love Easy Tiger though.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah. Well, I like their food. I really like their food. I mean, I also love their cup of coffee and I have this mug. I know what I was gonna say. Some of the good coffee drinks they have, they have a Mexican mocha,
Starting point is 00:53:42 which I thought about ordering today, but I didn't, which is pretty decent. And they've got a Bengal Spice Latte, which is thought about ordering today, but I didn't, which is pretty decent. And they've got a bingo spice latte, which is also really good. I almost got the bingo spice latte, but I didn't get used to make a bingo spice cookie. Oh, discontinued it like four or five years ago. Maybe during the pandemic, they stopped making it and it's been gone. It used to be excellent. It was a go to buy I wish I could I really like this place like this
Starting point is 00:54:00 particular spot. I'll bring friends in from out of town because it kind of serves all purposes. Yeah. Hey, let's get a drink. Do you want a beer? Do you want something? You want like a cocktail thing? They have a bunch of that. Hey, do you want a giant pretzel? We can all nibble on it or an individual sandwich. Or do you want a cup of coffee and a little pastry? It sort of does it all pretty good. Grab a sourdough roll on your way out. Is this the only bread? Sourdough loaf. What did I say? Sour loaf dough?
Starting point is 00:54:29 Sour loaf dough, right? Sourdough loaf, yeah. That's like the only bread that I get. The baguette here is awesome too. Oh, my wife loves it. And she'll just, she'll sit on the couch gremlin style with my coat on and just eat the fucking bread, drink a Mountain Dew.
Starting point is 00:54:43 This was the reason I got into baguette making is I liked the baguettes here so much, like I wanna do that. I wanna make- Oh, I forgot. Yeah. Hey, how's pickling going? That was a one and done thing. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:52 That was a one time thing. I understand, I understand. I'm thinking about getting into pickling in Michigan. Yeah? I pickle red onions, but that's about it. And that's very easy. I don't like pickled red onions. It's not my thing.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I don't like pickles. I like everything else pickled. Pickled red onions I can eat by the handful. Weird. I like pickled carrots. Pickled carrots are good. Go to Rudy. Oh dude, the Rudy's pickled carrots, they have them now?
Starting point is 00:55:14 I had Rudy's yesterday. Woo! Did you get the potato? Potato? No, and I really wish I had. Is it because you were with your wife? No, it's because I'm with my daughter. You were with your evil wife?
Starting point is 00:55:23 Millie and I were having like, she's going with my daughter. You were with an evil wife. Millie and I were having like, she's going to college tomorrow. And so we were having all of her goodbye meals. She wanted to have barbecue one last time. Oh, that's cool. So we went and it was fucking off. Yeah. Oh, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:55:35 It was the bar, we got moist brisket and it was dry and close. No. Whole pork was really good. But yeah, it was an off thing. Oh, that's a bummer. That sucks. Yeah. That really sucks. I thought it was an off-favorite. That's really bad. That sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 That really sucks. I thought it helps maybe soften the blow. Yeah. It wasn't as good as I remember. When you think about this later, just go, that fucking sucks. Yeah. That's right, baby.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Well, we did it. It was a good episode. Hopefully, mine recorded. Let us know if we should release the two microphone version. I've uploaded it. I'll listen to it. It's under four on the drive. I have this fucking sticky dragon thing I need to edit for
Starting point is 00:56:10 so I can get back to work on the on-the-spot. Don't rush this. We can pay an editor minor money to just line something up. I could send this to my friend Brian and give him $100. He'd be like, I'll do all eight, don't worry about it. I love Brian, man. I see that guy everywhere. We're not gonna release any of these until all eight are done.
Starting point is 00:56:27 We can release them before, but we just need to figure out how we're editing them and everything. Yeah. We can release them tomorrow if you want to. I don't care. Yeah. I don't want to either. I'm just giving you the option. Let us know when you want us to really, oh wait.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Oh. But let us know if you want the two microphone version that is near unlistable. You know. Yeah. You really don't, but there are going to be freaks out there who do. So, you know, if we can throw a million ads on it, then I'm for it.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Maybe instead of your audio, it can be ad audio. Oh, that's good. So every time I talk, it's an advertisement. This is brilliant. We're breaking through. This is a new podcast paradigm. Hey Eric, what do you think about this street? Hey, with Geico, did you know you can save 50%?
Starting point is 00:57:05 Whoa, Eric, I didn't know that. What's the idea of a member of a podcast who is just ads? We should do it. Man, we're talking about revenue, talking about boost in revenue. This is a paradigm shift. How many ads do you have in your podcast?
Starting point is 00:57:18 About 130. Yeah. Well, we have one guy, it's fucked up. We have a guy we call Ad Brad. He can't get enough better help in Purple Mattresses. He only speaks in ad copy. I love it. Oh man. But hopefully you're enjoying this podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:38 That means we're about halfway through the season potentially. We've been having fun making it, I think. Yeah. And hopefully these we were all able to pull and they're pretty good. Any final thoughts for the folks at home listening to this very good podcast?
Starting point is 00:57:53 Just in if you're listening to this very good podcast, I hope you're comfortable on a sat the mattress, which you can get. All right, bye. You've never been a sponsor of us, by the way.

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