ANMA - Austin Java Redemption

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

Good morning, Gus! Going against our better judgement, we've gone to Austin Java, a place we are mad at but don't know why. There's no place to record so from Garrison Park down the road Gus and Geoff talk about RTX embarrassments, Gus’s insane convention ideas, Uno 2, DVD testing hell, Red vs Blue episode 100, 16 tours at the Congress Office, Bahama Buck’s, and Geoff’s smell & Gus’s allergies. Do us a favor and tell a friend about ANMA. They can take a guess at the name but mostly check out the show. Remember that person you used to watch RvB with? Tweet them a link.  This episode is sponsored by DoorDash. Download the DoorDash app and use code ANMA to get 50% off up to a $20 value and $0 delivery fees. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's cool. Yeah. Like the under-bill. Yeah, right? I'm bad. They put like the little stars, the little All Star thing. Did you root for the Astros after the Padres got out? Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. Everybody did, right? Yeah. There's your popular those Astes, right? The Phillies are, Philadelphia is the new Boston. Yeah. You need to keep them down for as long as possible before they become the Red Sox. So they lost two championships in a day. It was pretty great.

Last episode we were at Turnstile. It was almost too cold. But it's not the case today. Jesus Christ. We talked not the case today. Jesus Christ. We talked about the patience of Job. We talked about playing pickup basketball at the IBM campus. Something coming out of the woods on a train track. Scooter top speeds.

Bernie versus Jeff's burritos and Target trip. But that was all the last episode. So this is the new episode. We're, so we did, we tried to do our Austin Java redemption today. But apparently every Austin Java in Austin is closed except for one. There's only one left and it is clear on the other side of town from our studio. So we're there anyway. Never knew it existed.

It's off Munchaka, which used to be Munchaka, but this pronounced man-check. That's the issue with something that he's known. This has been that way forever. It's been that way forever. So we came, we went there. There's no place to record. So I had to go down the street to a park. I probably driven by a million times that I were actually been to. Yeah. Oh, I haven't even tried the coffee yet. What's the place called? Austin Java. No, there is a park. There to a park. I've probably driven by a million times that I've never actually been to. Yeah. Oh, I haven't even tried the coffee yet. What's the place called? Austin Java.

No, there is a park. There is a park. Yeah. There's a pool in its sideways. Like it's tilted. Oh, what? Gus took a drink of his coffee. That's the most animated Gus I've seen in years.

That's strong. That's all espresso. Holy crap. That's like all the coffee that was missing from the turnstile coffee and ended up in here Some I don't know how your co-brew is, but that is a strong Americano blend. It is the most It's better than turnstile. It is not watery, but yeah, but it's just sort of it tastes hollow

I think hollows are like oh, it's like it's like a it's got a hint of coffee. Yeah, your co-brew is really foamy at the top too Yeah, I think it's probably on Nitro, which is a really great gimmick if you're excited to see something like that. But I never am because I feel like that's to hide that it doesn't taste like anything. I'm glad to hear you say that, because I made some coffee this morning

and I was afraid maybe I'd burned out my coffee receptors or something, because I made it a little too strong. Yeah, it's not much there. No. It's all in mine. It's all over here. If you want to drink coffee vagaries,

I think this is the place to go. The whole place is a vagary. You said like, this is some, these people come here every day. This is like a local spot for people who live down here. And I just said, bummer. I was, I wasn't being being insulting you were. I was just saying like here we are on the ass in the town. I haven't been here. I mean, you used to live

fucking 10 blocks from here down on the way. Oh, yeah, you did. You're my first moved Austin. Not terribly far from the third fourth RT office. Uh, Ralph Albinado. It was the fourth while. Yeah, it's fucking crazy dude uh... an area that we all spent a lot of time in yeah a long time ago uh... had no fucking clue that that awesome job was there

and i was just saying to you like they're people that this is their daily routine like this is the coffee shop in their neighborhood they go to every day and you were like poor sons of bitches i was it purchasing from that angle i was just like i was like a whole little micro world going on right here, this little society of people that get up every day and go work on their laptops at fucking Austin Java. Austin, so the sign and the coast he was all yellow, it used to be purple, right?

It did, yeah. What happened? Like yellow is the opposite of purple on the color wheel. That's, now I know why they closed them all. Yellow's not as inviting as purple is. Well, here's the thing, purple's a royal color, right? Maybe they were afraid they were appealing to the wrong audience. Maybe they're trying to be too fancy and they tried to find that. Maybe they tried to rework it to be a color of the people.

Gotcha. Yellow. Yeah. Yeah. You got to be, here's the thing that you don't understand. I guess you got to be really top of funnel with this stuff. You got to cast the whitest net. You got to catch, you know, the most people and just bring them in.

How many Austin Java do you think there were at its peak? How many locations? Cause I like, I can think of the one, if I had to guess, I would say like five. I would say five. Yeah. Yeah. So let's go through.

The first one I knew about, and the one that I don't like for some reason that I can't remember Wait, like we both decided I think in a past episode that neither of us likes Austin Java neither of us knows why that's why we're doing the Austin job or Redemption right the one on Lamar and 12 or so or so there was the one across there was the one it was in the Austin City Hall city hall. Yeah on second street apparently this yellow one version down on Manchak And I feel like there was at least Manchak one North or North or North or more than or yeah I know there's at least another one which I can't think of them

Those are the only three I can think of off the top of my head right now Eric go on the way back machine Austin Java I come I don't think yes I've only ever been to the one that was on second because we would come for RTX. And we would go across the street, me and Garrett for megast 64, we would go across street, get a coffee and some tacos. And the first time we came, it was like, dude, Austin rules.

This is so cool. Breakfast tacos and you get a cup of coffee. It was like, wow, how impressive. And then every year, every subsequent year, it was like, wow, it's so, wow, how impressive. And then every year, every subsequent year, it was like, this is less special. And now you live here. Uh, man, RTX, that's a, that's a whole thing. I can't believe, we, I can't believe you guys would walk around to Austin Java in the summer because that's events like in July and it's hot as hell.

It's a pretty good walk. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. We were across the in July and it's hot as hell. It's a pretty good walk. Yeah. That's the thing, we were across the street, the hotel we were staying here. It's like across the street from that Austin Java and then we would walk from there to the convention center as early in the morning as we could before it got so hot. And I remember walking down the street and people would walk just by and go, hey, how's it going? Yeah, good morning.

And I'm not used to that. I was not used to that before I moved here. Very weird. The only reason. So that's like hot. I wish we could have that event at a different time of the year, just because it's so oppressively hot. The first year we had that event was in 2011.

And it was at a field not too far from your actual little south here. In 2012 was the first year that we had at the convention convention center. Do you know field is still in the field? What do you think the field? Oh, no, they built something there did they really yeah office like a Little office complex thing So 2012 was the first year we had it at the convention center and I remember after we did I used to run the event back then and after we finished the 2011 And I remember after we did, I used to run the event back then and after we finished the 2011 event, I was like, all right cool, this is going well. Well, let's have it at the convention center.

I scheduled a meeting with the convention center people to try to book dates and they looked at me like I was stupid because I was. And I was like, yeah, it was like May 2011. It was like, yeah, I want to book the convention center for an event in 2012. They're like, well normally we book these out like two or three years in advance. Yeah, I learned a lot. And they're like the only dates we have available

in 2012 is Fourth of July weekend. And you can have exhibit hall one. I was like, okay, great, we'll take it. And the only reason those dates were available is because no one was stupid enough to have an event in Austin, in the heat of the summer on 4th of July weekend. And we've kind of stuck with it.

You know, I was like, okay, that's kind of our date scene. And sometimes we have to move it a little bit because of calendar issues or other events that are going on. But man, I really F1 are in October. And that's because those are huge events, and that's like the best weather, and the most ideal time to visit Austin. We're the idiots having our event out there in July and the heat of the summer. South by Southwest being in March

is probably the main reason the city is successful right now. Yeah, it's because everybody comes to Austin in March when it's 78 degrees, and we got weather like, like Southern California, and it's because everybody comes to Austin in March when it's 78 degrees And we got weather like like southern California and it's fucking gorgeous a hundred percent of the time And then they they turn around and go home and pack up a bag and move here and then three weeks later It's 110 degrees. I feel like people are constantly warned about the heat and about how hot it gets and how long the heat lasts and Still regardless of that you still hear about people moving here and long the heat lasts and I still regardless of that you still hear about people moving here and then after less than a year leaving because they just they can't deal with it it's no one should live here I don't get it. I went for a walk yesterday and when I left my house it was like 71

degrees and I thought I'm gonna walk for like an hour hour and a half listen to a podcast listen to some Bill Simmons or something and put on this like a little light jacket because it was like 71 and breezy and by the time I got home it was like 86 degrees and I was sweating like a fucking ass. Yeah. It's weird time of year where I was driving around probably new-nish yesterday and I saw like these two women crossing the street wearing sweaters that they obviously had put on when they left Wherever they live in the morning and they just looked miserable. It's way too hot to be wearing a sweater right now It's way too goddamn hot. What 77 right now? So it's it's not unbearable

But it's it's it also rained this morning. So it's that muggy awful kind of day. I hate it Yeah, I don't know if you want if you want to talk about RTX much Yeah, I don't know if you want to talk about RTX much. We kind of mentioned the dates, and it got me thinking about a lot about that. What's the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you at RTX? Most embarrassing thing that ever happened to me at RTX. I'll close that question about it, please.

God, I don't, no, I don't embarrass easily, so that's a tough one. I think you're maybe kind of the same. I had to leave the stage once. I was on a panel with kind of funny and Greg Miller hit me over the head with a prop fake bottle that shattered and it cut up my forehead.

Oh my God! Yeah, and I was like, I pretended like, you know, the fake bottle knocked me out and I was laying on the ground and I was like, I can feel liquid all over my forehead. Oh, I think the bottle cut me out to like jump up and be like, all right, bear it back. I have to like run off stage and get like,

first aid real quick behind the stage and then come back out. I felt a little woozy after that. Why didn't you just get up and then like, you were bleeding everywhere and then you could have been like a hero who fought from underneath and then the underdog. I was a little disoriented,

and it was not expecting to see blood on myself. So I was like, let me go take care of this real fast hop right back. I don't know if it's the most embarrassing, but the most, the time where I wanted to curl up in a ball and disappear was, when we got some barbell running the convention. We asked Gus how it was going,

and he's like, it's great, is we're taking care of it, it's awesome. And we asked Barbara how it was going, and she gave it a beat, and then started crying. And we all just went, oh no, oh god, oh no, no, no, no. Oh no, it was incredibly stressful. I think, you know me, it's like, it's always trying to put the best face on

and just trying to be like, perform through it and get through it. Is that Gen X mentality? Maintained that illusion. But man, those were, there were some rough years. There were some really rough years. What about you? What's your most embarrassing?

I only posed the question because when I think of RTX and now the first thing that pops into my head is It was like maybe RTX like six years ago. Okay, five years ago. Maybe going in on a scooter and Like one of those little running scooters and I hit a curb wrong and I wiped out and I wrecked and I rolled like 15 feet in land And I got stopped by a trash can, and I wrapped around the trash can, and like 40 Rishwethe community members ran over to help me up.

And I'm like, are you okay, Jeff? Are you fine? I'm like, oh yeah, I'm okay. I was all bloody and fucking wrapped up, like laying on a trash can. And I did, yeah. That was not my finest moment. That's not great.

I feel like the event has been through several iterations about what the event is, and we always think we always struggle ourselves trying to identify what like the event has been through several iterations about what the event is and I think we always struggle ourselves trying to identify what is the event and the best way to execute on it. I think we're continuing to try to figure that out and I think that's part of the fun of it is trying to figure out and not being afraid to do something different. And I'd really like to see us fully lean into that and do something off the wall nuts. I used to, back when I was running events, I used to always pitch these crazy ideas that

I had no background in event planning. And you know, we hired on people who did, and we worked with companies who that's all they do is do events. And I would pitch ideas that would just have every event a professional in the room like put their head in their hands and be like, why? Or no. And, you know, I, maybe we should go back and revisit

some of those ideas and do them. Just because people think they're a bad idea. It doesn't automatically make them a bad idea. Just because I'm in a room full of professionals and they all put their hands in their hands. It doesn't mean I'm an idiot. What were some, can you give us an idea of some of your ideas? One of my ideas was to have no signs anywhere. Jesus Christ. And because then you encourage people to explore

and find things without actually telling them exactly where to go. You're wrong. And that you could have like cool pop-up events hidden around and that there is no signage. I'm being nice to you because I like you. If I was in a room and somebody pitched that idea, I don't know that I would ever listen to another idea they picked.

Do you, I don't know if you've seen it, there's a poster somewhere around the studio. It's like a drawing of me wearing like those X-ray glasses that got like swirlies on them, which is RTX, Chaos is fun. That, they made that in response to that suggestion, or I should say the event planning company made that in response to that suggestion. It was like unofficial art. It was like just like an idea if we leaned into the chaos aspect. I already don't like being at conventions. Trying to get around in conventions is a headache

and I have to stop and ask people and there are already signs. To take the signs away, that's so obtuse. I don't even know how you can like, yes and it. That's a no but all the way. I don't know, I don't know about you guys. I, I, I, everyone's disagreeing with me. I feel like I'm getting bullied here. Nobody wants to hear my, the truth. That's really a great idea.

That should be the name of your autobiography. Nobody wants to hear the truth. I guess they're all astray. Do you have any other ideas that everyone said no to immediately? Yes, but you want to use them? I want to use them, so I don't want to say all of them. That's the one I'll give you. That one I'll admit will probably never get used, but I do have a lot of other ideas that I would like to see

revisited. You could the bucket of unused ideas in Rouser Teeth. You could swim in like Uncle Scrooge's money here. So unattangent to that one. I had an idea. God, I don't think we'll ever do this. That's the only reason I'm saying it. I had an idea for something I called secretRTX, which is you hold the event, and you don't tell anyone where it is. It's like you have the floor with exhibitors and stuff, but then every panel and every event is a secret, and people have to find it.

And it's distributed all around downtown Austin, like at whatever random venue at random times, and it's all all around downtown Austin. Uh, let's just like at whatever random venue at random times, and it's all a word of mouth. There's no, again, it's like an extension of the no signage. Let me tell you an idea I have. Here's an idea that dabbles in the themes that Gus is going for, that we were actually gonna do, that we'll never do now, the time has passed, that I think it scratches what he's talking

about but in a in a in a plausible way. A you know we did years ago we did this video called Uno the Movie that got like a bunch of views like seven to ten views whatever and people always wanted a sequel and we didn't want to and we have since done the sequel we did the Uno livestream 36 hour line or whatever. But we did that like six years after the original movie. The original idea for how to follow up Uno the movie was and we were thank the pandemic this didn't happen. The year of the pandemic when we had to cancel RTX I had already secured the Paramount Theater I had already secured the Paramount Theater for the Friday night.

We were going to have a private intimate achievement hunter event that we didn't say what it was and we were gonna Give 1100 free tickets away to members and then the only rule was they couldn't Post about it. They couldn't talk about what was happening or what they'd seen. And when they got there, they were going to go into the paramount, having no idea what they were going to, what they were walking into, on the stage was just going to be the Uno set. We were going to show up in Tuxedo's, like it was backerat with James Bond. And then we were going to have like, waiters and waitresses come and bring us drinks and stuff. And we were going to do Uno 2 live in front of a studio audience. And it was just just gonna go as long as it went. We figured it'd go like three hours. We had the place till midnight or something. So there was gonna be a hard out but we could have

steered it out early. I'm sure. And then that was that was like our idea of achieving Gus's surprise and delight without making it impossible to find or enjoy. But that's and I would love to have done that. And that was that was and I don't think the audience knows that but that was the plan for Uno to from the get go that would have been real fun I like that idea of and I had already had it I mean with they were trying to figure out how to disseminate the tickets when RTX or when we had to cancel because of COVID But back insertion but that makes sense For one event

Yeah, you're talking about an entire convention. Yeah spread spread out across an entire downtown. The thing that I think of is During someone singing Tarzan was here During E3 one year there was a pop-up thing that was like I think like pop sick branded Uh-huh that where there were like tattoos and all this stuff for whatever. Yeah, that pop-up thing I would love to do stuff like that for these shows. Yeah, where it's like tattoos and all this stuff or whatever, that pop-up thing, I would love to do stuff like that for these shows, where it's like we're coming to Denver and it's gonna be in this spot,

this coffee shop, whatever, we're taking it over for X amount of hours and we're doing this thing in a meat and greet or whatever, that to me makes sense. A whole convention. What if you say you're going to Denver and people have to figure out where? And when?

An invite-only thing where you don't know exactly what it's gonna be But you kind of have an idea about what you might get into is very interesting to me for a single event Yeah, like a convention. No, not I think if your product is ARGs or you know I mean you can get away with something like that Gus, but love that shit. It makes me think I think That's how we are though. No. I think I was influenced by those early ARGs and by like that old game, what was it? Magistic. Magistic.

That was it. From what was it like the late 90s, early 2000s? We were living together, like 2001, 2002, 2001. And if you remember that game, it was EA, wasn't it? Yeah, I played it. I fucking signed up for it. I got the calls. It's like, you signed up for it and there was no, like game, well, there was, but there

was no game client in the traditional sense that you're thinking of. Yeah. It was all like, you submitted your phone number, your email address, and your instant messenger handles, and it was all like they would contact It was like a like a spy story that was told via these Media forms like you would get messages or phone calls or voice Disciples and letters and figured out. Yeah, figure it out and it was all like trying to tell a story Without having like without like launching a game and looking around

I think I'm kind of learning the line between reality and fiction. It must have been the first ARG. Maybe. Like it was before I left B's, and all that stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. It's like, if QAnon was real, Jesus Christ. And there was a way to participate.

It was kind of like that. Do you think all the QAnon people are just doing a clever ARG that we're not in on? Dude, they could be paying customers $4.99 a month. I think ARGs in general, like lost was probably the last media thing that I gave so much to because I was enjoying myself so much. Since then, so many other shows and things like that

asked so much of you to be involved even just through your time. And it's like, man, when they were few and far between, it was really cool. And then it became like a glut. Oh, that's tough. And a good, a lot of ones that weren't done well. Yes. Yeah.

A lot of like half thought out ideas where somebody in a room said, well, I've seen in ARG, we should do that. And then nobody, nobody was in charge of it. So it was just sort of like half an idea. That sucks. And enough of those, and you just go, I'm done with this. just sort of like half an idea. That sucks. And enough of those, and you just go, I'm done with this. I'm over like Cloverfield had like all the slush

show stuff or whatever the fuck it was. And it was like, this is cool. What's the end game? There, in fact, it's funny. You mentioned last, I bought that Blu-ray box set when it came out. And even the box set itself was like a game. There was like things hidden in the box set and like secret messages. In fact, like one of the bonus disks was hidden in the packaging. You had to like figure out how to open it

and realize like, oh, there's something else here and like open it up and get an extra disk out of it. I thought that was like a really well put together box set. And that is how we approached all of our DVDs too. Back when we made them. Good God. I just had like a flashback to DVD testing. Did.

So the audience has no idea. You don't realize this, because I'm saying this you to anyone listening, unless you've authored a DVD, you don't realize, and this is fucking ancient now, nobody cares anymore, but you don't realize how every DVD player treats a DVD differently. Yeah, and you have to when you're designing like the menus and the layout and the buttons and all of that like every player will interpret everything a little differently. So we would have to make a DVD, then try to test it on as many different DVD players as possible. You author it, then inevitably there's some obscure DVD player where, oh, it just auto-placed through all the

special features, one after another, and there's no chance for the whoever's watching it to actually give any input. Yeah. And also, we made it, it was a point of pride with us that we wanted to put as much bonus content on the DVD as actual content. So if a season rang in at two hours, we wanted to have at least two hours of bonus content. And so we would, I remember when we initially were going to submit the DVD, it was still working on Tellen Eric, it was in Bernie's office, he was holding the DVD and we were going to put it in the mail and send it up to Dallas to get it printed.

And we were both looking at it and like it's just, we didn't do enough. And so we decided to go back and I don't know if you remember this, you were involved. We spent like another seven days just working all night long, adding more extra bonus features and we got really into Easter eggs at that point. And then we set up a bar that we felt like we had to beat every subsequent DVD. And so by the time we were making like season five and six DVDs We would have like 40 Easter eggs or 50 Easter eggs at DVD that we had to film that we had to test Yeah, they'll be like what it's right right down left right up and then donut says the thing. Yeah, fuck or and then you test that on

So if there's six hours of content on a DVD you got to test six hours of content on every DVD player. We made sure to hit the game console, because we figured a lot of the audience would have game console playing in there. So that was like the focus of the bulk of our testing. And then whatever other DVD players we had, or we could buy to try to test them, the Easter Egg I remember that gave us the most trouble. Was it season three, where if you left it on the title screen and didn't make a selection after a while,

like Doc would show up and steal one of your menu options? Yeah, but there was one brand of DVD player where as soon as you put the disc in, Doc would immediately begin stealing all your menu options. So you couldn't actually watch anything on the disc because it was just like, start automatically going through every one of those.

It was like, oh, there's nothing left to choose from. That, I think, that ended up having to get reauthored, if I remember right. Like, that, that, that disc went out, then it's like, when we had to print the second round, it's like, all right, let's fix that. So that, that's the case. That's the case.

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that question immediately. It was hard. It was hard. Like, we did that with Mega 64. It was like a lot of that stuff and an authoring and testing or whatever. But there's still, I have like an nostalgia for that where it's like, these insane little Easter eggs to hide on stuff. They were so cool and you can never,

I don't know how you could ever do that again now. I miss being clever. I miss when media allows you to be clever. And then you, and because it felt like you could reward people who wanted to also be clever. Yeah, right? Yeah. Like now, yeah, if you stream stuff, you see the time bar, right?

You see, you know, like, oh, there's just something at the end of this, or, you know, you skip ahead, pass the credits, define something. It's difficult to try to hide something. So to get around that, I remember when we released episode 100, we wanted to try to get around that. I wanted to put out different versions of the episode, but couldn't figure out a way to do it without spoiling it. So when we put this back before YouTube, like you would click on a link on our website

to download the video, I think we made every letter in the link a different link. So when you looked at it, it looked like one link to download the video, but really every letter and every space was a different link. So depending on where you clicked on the link, you got a different version of the video downloaded. We had seven different things.

You couldn't tell until you downloaded, went to the comms to talk about it. It's like, oh yeah, it was weird at the end when this happened. Like, what are you talking about? The end of the video was this. Like, you try to create that. It was our clue moment. Well, when clue came out with the reader from the end,

it was somewhere you lived, depending on which one you got. God, what a pain in the- That was a yes. That was fun. No, that was fun. That was when we saw Gavin, when Gavin fell asleep standing up in the closet. There was some long, long days and weeks. That day, I remember Gavin and I went home after, because he fell asleep standing up, and we're like, we like, we gotta get some sleep. And we'd been there for like, fucking, I don't know, four days straight or something. And I fell asleep on I-35 driving home

and Gavin had to like shake me away, cause I was driving us home. It was brutal. And then, and if you remember this, like I got home, it's when I lived off of Leak Austin Boulevard, passed the fuck out. And then the servers had all died

because once people figured out you could download multiple files, they would go back and start downloading so it's like everything crashed but my phone was dead because I'd been at work for like four days so you nobody could call me. You had to come over and bang on my window to wake me up in the middle of the night. Do you remember that? I don't. And I was like what the hell's going on in your like the servers are down. You got to go fix. I'm gonna have to drive over to our co-location facility off of Montaupolis and reboot everything and get everything working again. It was like I had to drive over to our co-location facility off on Montaupolis and reboot everything and get everything working again.

It was like I had my helio ocean at the time. It was like it was just dead. Yeah, and so you had to sleep a little bit. Then you had to drive across town to go wake me up. You went back home to sleep, then I had to go back over to the servers to get them back up and running so I wrote good downloads stuff again. Talk about a fucking pain in the ass.

I love reminiscing about those days. It's fun to talk about now. I wouldn't want to go through those days. Ah. That's like, build in a company and go through all that. That's a young person's endeavor. I wouldn't want to do that in my 50s. No.

I like sleep too much. So much effort and commitment, you know? Yeah, oh man. I think that was the peak of that kind of stuff. Was right around that time. Well, no, no, I take it back. No, it was not. We definitely kept up in the bar after that. Because I think about like some of the shit that happened after that at the Congress office.

I would say the Congress office was the peak of that stuff. The Congress office was the peak of that stuff for sure. Yeah, well, good times. How do you qualify the peak of that stuff? Like, like, like, quality or quantity? Quantity. Yeah, quantity for sure. That's like, we talked about this before like making the NCAA Like jumbo tron videos the same videos

Trying to figure out all that reconstruction stuff and it was just Any one of those projects was too much work and there were like three or four them at any given time Reconstruction that's when that's when we started working with Eddie Reedus. Yeah, we met him Then he came up from He used to help us to help us to make some of that stuff. Yeah, yeah Yeah, that was that was at the Congress office and That was in itself like you trained in the ass

Just a shaking his head come man. That's fucking office. That was so we all in so shady at the same time We should go back and have we we should do an episode of Anima from the hideout, which was right next to where the office used to be downtown. The office itself has gotten that building was demolished. It's a hotel now. Hotel now. But I have so many memories of that block,

and specifically that alley behind that office, because we would walk in and out. There was a door that led to the alley, and that, because we would walk in, and now there was a door that led to the alley, and that's how we would walk in and out a lot. There was a door to the front too, but lots of times you'd walk in and out of the alley, and that alley is filthy. I have, I lost track of how many times I stepped over

human shit just to get into the door to go up to work. There was a, I used to call it stab alley. Yeah. Nice. There was a restaurant under us. And during the lunch rush, you could smell all of it. It wasn't really bad. Maybe we got used to it,

but you could smell when their vent hoods turned on. And like all of the smell would start coming upstairs to where we were. It was a pita pit. And... I got sick of pita's real fast. Yeah, because it was easy. It was like, we had a door that went down stairs

directly into the restaurant. So we could just like, without going outside, walk down, go into the restaurant, and get food. And there were so many signs in that stairwell that said, do not go upstairs, private property. There were signs on the door that said not a part of the pita pit. It's not the pita pit. Do not knock on this door. Do not go upstairs, private property. There were signs on the door that said not apart. It's not the pita pit. Do not knock on this door.

Do not try to open this door. But it was like a non-stop. You would hear people jiggling that door handle or knocking on the door trying to get in and be like, what are you doing? Did you not see the 15 fucking signs and be like people with a pita in their hand and a soda? Like, I can't help you.

You can't come eat up here. Go find somewhere else to eat. That was also, I guess because we were so centrally located, that was when tours started to happen and really got out of control. I don't know if you remember that. Tours? Yeah. Like people would show up and want to tour.

And which we were always happy to accommodate, except for a lot of the stuff we're doing is in D.A. And so we'd have to like do a sweep around the office and turn off monitors and stuff. And it started to become really detrimental to the work process. And I remember one day, the day that kind of broke me, was you guys were all out of town.

It was just Jack and I there. And this is, it was might have been around the time we were making supreme surrender. Like I don't know if Jack was a full-time employee yet, or if he was just helping us out on loan. But it was in that era. And Jack and I gave 16 tours on a Friday. Oh my God.

And we were like this, we gotta do something like this. That's sustainable. Yeah. The other thing about that location was that it's close to downtown, it was seventh in Congress. And during South by Southwest, like every possible place you could have a band has a band.

And the Peter Pitt downstairs would have shows during South by Southwest. And I remember one, you know where I'm going. I remember one year we were all trying to work and there was a band performing downstairs under us. First of all, it was like, it sounded like a pirate was singing. Yeah. We went down there and it was like, it sounded like a pirate was singing. Yeah.

We went down there and it was like a band where they did like pirate sea shanties. And this before like sea shanties became popular a couple years ago. This was back in, oh. These guys on the burrow nine. The edge of the, yeah. And it's like, well, that's really annoying, but we can keep working.

So we go back upstairs and keep working. They wrap up their set and the next band comes on. And it's a band called for on the floor all drummers all drums and it was you remember the band because it was it was so fucking That rules and the drums were so intense that you could see on our computers that the hard drives were being jostled around so much that they couldn't read and write at their normal rate because the like the heads were skipping. So like we have to shut down. Like we literally cannot do any work as long as four on the floor is performing downstairs.

We had to stop. Then we went down, we went like walk around the block for a bit until they were done playing. And we're like, all right, now we can get back to work. It was like the, like the desks on the floor were shaking. We couldn't, like you couldn't sit. It was like something out of a cartoon. We're like someone's trying to sleep and everything's shaking. Four on the floor is an. We couldn't, like you couldn't sit, it was like something out of a cartoon. We're like someone's trying to sleep

and everything's shaking. Four on the floor is an American rock and roll band for Minneapolis, Minnesota. The group is known for each member playing a bass track and for writing all their songs in four or four times. I've never thought to look them up. That, that, that. Are these two together?

So hard. Oh, that was them. if you ever have a chance to Watch out for the four in the floor. They they performed at the Peter pit probably a waiter owner They're still going they got shows like like a couple days ago. Wow hell yeah, we had to go for on the floor All right, I don't official band of in I don't remember the name of the Pirate Sea Shanty band though official band of Anna. I don't remember the name of the Pirate Sea Shanty band though. Okay, let me ask you this because I do want to save more of the Congress stuff for. I do think the next episode we should go to hide out. Okay, okay, so I thought I had a whole record there, but we'll forget. There's no

word. Maybe we get them to let us record in the theater in the back. Oh, maybe. Yeah, it's a good idea. Nick also gave me this little zoom control thing so we can do it walking. So we don't have to hold microphones. It'll sound worse, but I don't care. It's more convenient. Yeah, the stories will be bad. I want to stick around this area because you said you used to live around here. Yeah.

Like a long time ago. So when I first moved back to Austin, well I shouldn't say move back. I never lived in Austin. Like I lived in Colleen and Copper's Cove when I was in the army, which is about an hour and 15 minutes, hour and a half north of here. And so I, you've never been there. I assume. But if you were to go to Colleen or Copper's Cove or Harker Heights or any of that area, Belton, you would learn that there's, it's like a third world country. It's, it's just, it's just pawn shops and in rubble. And it's just exists. There's about 50,000 soldiers on Fort Hood and every business exists to take the meager amounts of money they have away from them.

It's really, it's a depressing area. And so it's suck to live there. And so I would, reason I fell in love with Austin is because I'd get off work at five o'clock and I would just get in a car and I would drive down to Austin and I wouldn't come home till four in the morning, get like two hours of sleep and then go to PT. And so I was here seven days a week unless I was deployed. Which case it was two days a week. Yeah, in which case it was two days a week. And so I fell in love with Austin through that, so that when I finally left New Jersey when I got out of the army and I was like, what the fuck am I doing here? It's cold and brutal and the snow is gray and it's just

Dismill and I was on tour with the band And we played it was December 13th 1998 and we played in Austin At a place that used to be called the Tyre Pratter Museum over in East Austin. It's a restaurant now and And it was like 78 degrees and we were all wearing shorts and we went swimming. And I thought, why the fuck am I living in New Jersey? So I went home on December 17th. I packed up everything I had in my first wife and I,

and we moved to Austin, December 17th, 2000, or 1998. So we got here like December 18th, I think. And I just went to the first apartment complex that said it had availability in the paper, I think, because this is how you did it in the 90s, and it was a place called Cooper's Hill on William Cannon. It's no longer called Cooper's Hill,

but it's still an apartment complex. And I just rolled up to it and I said, I'd like to run a apartment and they said, okay, when you want to move in and I was like, well, I got the U-Haul, and I moved in that day. And so that's why I lived over here. It I got the U-Haul and I moved in that day. And so that's why I lived over here. It was just like the first place that said I could.

Are you down here at all ever now? Well, yes, but only because of Bahama Bucks. So, I'm up, I'm up through a phase where we were obsessed with snow cones together. There was a snow cone renaissance in the early 2000s in Austin. It predated all of the trailer park craze that took over the entire country. But there were trailer parks of snow cones all over Austin.

That's when I got really into them. Then they kind of faded away and died. My love for snow cones did not. There's this local Texas chain called Bahama Bucks that I go to probably once a week. And it's the closest one in my house. There's like one in Round Rock, one in Cedar Park, and one down on fucking Stasmy. And so we go to that one.

So the trick is in what we like is like the soft ice. Like lots of times thing of a- Shave ice. Right, like the thing of a snow cone. It's like that hard, kind of rocky, gravely ice. That's garbage. Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah.

It's do you in your mouth? It's like mouthful of sugar do you do. Shaved ice, that's nice and soft and fluffy. That's the reason we like snow beach so much back in the day. So, Bahama Bucks is your go-to? Yeah, and so I come down here just first, but if it weren't for Bahama Bucks, I would probably wouldn't have been down here in 10 years. Okay.

I can't think of the last time I've been here in this part of town. It's like a different city now too. Like, there's a bunch, when I lived down here, there were no bars down here, there weren't a lot of restaurants. This was this part of town. It's like a different city now too. Like, there's a bunch, when I lived down here, there were no bars down here, there weren't a lot of restaurants. This was practically outside of town. Yeah, there are like whole communities. There's a place called Little darlings that everybody loves.

It's owned by the people that made a yellow jacket, social club, but you like, there's a whole fucking scene down here. It's a whole other world and I don't know anything about it. There's a lot of talk about like South Austin versus North Austin with the river dividing it. I feel like this is very much like quintessential with you imagine South Austin. Yeah.

Like this kind of stuff. It's weird what a natural barrier that creates in the city. And like what a choke point, like a lot of our traffic woes are because of the river that flow, sorry, the lake that goes through the middle of the city and like I guess like what a choke point like a lot of our traffic woes are because of the river that flow sorry the lake that goes through the middle of the city and that forced like funnels people to like certain choke points it makes everything all fucked up trying to get around the stupid city yeah I don't like I mean we spent a lot of time down here I because I live down

there and then the Ristyth office was down here for how long were we at Rafa Bameda like three years three and a half years maybe three years three maybe four yeah film I was trying to see this is not the park but I was thinking of a for how long will we wrap up in the day? Like three years? Three and a half years, maybe three years. Three, maybe four, yeah. So we filmed, I was trying to see, this is not the park, but I was thinking of a day that you and Brandon and Joel and I all filmed at a park for some reason. Who was it?

You don't remember what? It was around the time that we had like a flat, that same day we filmed at Brandon's apartment complex in a pool with like a flat Gus and a flat Jeff or something. Oh, it was the best friend's thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember it. You were like a trouncing through flat Jeff or something. Oh, it was the best friend's thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember it. You were like trouncing through the woods with my cutout.

Maybe. Yeah, I know that's good. I love that's good. It was right around here. I was thinking briefly it might have been this park, but I don't think it was. I wasn't there. It was my cardboard cutout was there.

Not me that for that shot. Oh, oh, oh, unrelated. I just remembered something. Okay. Uh, what Cologne do you wear? Uh, I don't know what it's called. You know what's called? It's like, uh, yeah, mama number five. Uh, it's like, uh, Louis Vuitton Cologne. I don't know. Okay. Um, the reason I asked is after we recorded Anima last week, uh, my car wreaked of Cologne. That's why I asked you to drive today.

It was like, somehow you must put it on your chest because it was like on the seat belt and the passenger side. And it was like, I got in my car. Like I didn't smell it when you were in the car, but something about it like sitting in the sun and baking the day while I was at the office. Like I was like, what the hell is that? And I turned and looked at the passenger seat.

And it was like you were still sitting there with me. That's a smell great. No. He's a good colleague. I think he smelled great. Thanks, man. Yeah, no problem. You know what, I'm a huge nerd.

I've got a perfume allergy. He does. You have a what? Yeah, I'm super sensitive to fragrances. That's why I have to use like unscented deodorant, and I can't wear cologne. Like all my, all bath products have to be unsaid My I have to use fragrance free detergent fragrance free like fabric sheet dryer sheets

But you said oh you out allergic or you just don't know I'm allergic. It is what yeah It's a he's one of those people that shouldn't have made it. Yeah, no No, if this was like a hundred years ago. I would have been dead. Like, I was, thankfully I've grown out of a lot of my allergies, but when I was younger, I was severely allergic to grass. And just about every tree you can imagine, life was hell. I've grown out of a lot of them. But, Gus used to, when we were talking about our future and like, you know, being grownups and having homes and stuff,

Gus used to always be like, dude, the first thing I'm going to do when I buy a house, is I'm going to pour concrete all over the whole yard. And I'll never see grass again. It'll never touch me. I'll never be around it. I'll never cut it. I'll never be allergic to it. It'll never make me itch.

I'll just live in a concrete wonderland. It's not a severe anymore, but it still bothers me. I hate springtime when everyone starts cutting their grass. I hate springtime. Yeah, it's like, because it goes through the winter. It's like when everyone starts cutting their grass. I hate springtime Yeah, it's like cuz you go through the winter. It's like, oh, this is great. That's fine. Nobody's cutting it It's fine. It's not in the air. But once everyone starts cutting it. It's like it everywhere You can't get rid can't get away from it. Take it really grass

Grass everywhere So much grass. Oh my god, my parents still made me. Oh, that was almost a disaster. Jeff almost got a finger stuck in the We almost got you almost sky locked it His finger got stuck in the table. It's got me. He stuck his finger in the table. You want to take it? We'll get to a picture of that. Oh my God. I mean, I don't want to I'm not gonna go down again. It was like, I went past the knuckle. What are you thinking? Oh my god.

I don't remember what I was gonna say. Something about, oh, oh, oh, oh. So even though I was alert to grasp, my parents still made me mow the lawn. They thought it was fucking funny. You know, they bought me like a little mask. They're like, here, you go with this and it's fine. When I grew up on the border,

it was like a fucking 110 degrees outside. Like I'm not wearing the fucking mask out there. That's why they had you cut the grass. They weren't gonna fucking do it. I knew somebody who's from Texas who was allergic to horses and his parents made him ride horses to bread. They're like, you'll get over it eventually.

You're in Texas. You're a Texan, you got to ride horses. Incredible. Yeah, absolutely. You just made him more allergic. Wow. Man, is there anything that could happen down, I wanna go back to being down in like this area,

because again, this is an area of town I never come to. We can talk about like that natural barrier like the river, why am I ever going south of the river? You know what I mean? You're just gonna find traffic. Yeah, South Park Meadows. Why would you go to South Park Meadows? I don't know, big outdoor mall.

So I got these jeans. There you go. But it's got, there's nothing unique there. It's just like a kidding. Okay, that's not true. I was just trying to think of the only thing to even talk about down here that was interesting. South Park Meadows used to be a concert venue.

I think we've talked about that. What do we do talk about that? So I was gonna say, is there anything at this point that could happen down here or be down here that would bring you South other than doing this show? Yes, there is a number of books. There is a number of books. Other than the number of books, there is a neighborhood more on the books. Other than Bahama Bucks, there is a neighborhood

over here that I like a lot that I visit sometimes. I've talked about it on f*** face. It is the neighborhood where that flooded and the city bought back all the homes and it's turned into like a kind of a wasteland where like nature's reclaimed. It's kind of fun to drive around there. Like I go down there like maybe every three or four months

just to see the how it looks now. So does anyone live there at all? Or has it all been purchased? There were out of like 300 or out of like 700 homes. I think there are like Seven or eight homes left that are occupied occupied So are the other ones just abandoned or were they torn down? They've all been torn down. Okay So there's just like probably concrete slabs that are overgrown with vegetation. Yeah. It just looks like, it just looks like a road with woods around you and fields around

you where occasionally you'll see a transformer sticking up or that doesn't belong or a tree that isn't natural to the area that just was in somebody's yard that's now unkempt. I should check that out. Yeah. I'll take you every time if you want. It that just, you know, it was in somebody's yard. Right. It's now unkempt. Huh. I should check that out. Yeah, I'll take you every time if you want. It's just, if you go down William Cannon East of 35, go down like, I don't know, three miles and take it.

It's like over by any other kind of. Yeah, it is an ununcreet actually. Yeah. Did you ever see Barbarian? The movie? Yeah, I watched it like, three or four days ago. Is that what the neighborhoods like? Yeah. It's the neighborhood in Barbarian? Yeah, I watched it like three or four days ago. Is that what the neighborhoods like? Yeah, that's the neighborhood in Barbarian.

That's a lullaby. Yeah, that's great. Okay, that's like, you were describing it, I was like, that's kind of what's the major thing. So it's interesting too, because there's two neighborhoods, right? They were affected by this. The one is very much like Barbarian. The other one is on a golf course.

And so they're like, they're tearing down like three story 400,000 all houses. And it looks very nice and pristine over there. And then the other neighborhood is a little different interesting yeah it's yeah yeah it's it's I really want to see I think that sounds really interesting it's wild yeah they've started to close a lot of it off to the public that so well yeah you probably should see it probably can don't want to bother maintaining it well there's also there's also just like I think people go there to do needle drugs and stuff because there's always just like cars park There at the end of the afternoon with somebody in their bottom cells. They can just come here looking sketchy like all the people here

Yeah, I was gonna say like there's locks on the baseball fields and you can just do needle drugs out by like these fucking trees I don't get why would you lock a baseball field let me play baseball. Yeah, I don't understand What are you gay keeping? Yeah? It makes no sense you already steal the basis when you're playing. Yeah, it's a part of. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball. We've been in baseball.

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You could take it back to the office and divvy it up and fill some water in. I could probably put a gallon of water in this and it would be the correct dilution. It's so strong. Have a sip. It's weird because ours was so weak. It's been watered down a bit by the eye, so it's better. It's actually much better now that it's been watered down with that ice. Okay, so you guys were against Austin Java. Oh, what

was that taco I got like a bean and okay, so it was egg black bean and cheese. No, it was potato black bean. That's right. That's right. It had black beans and refried beans in it. I was very confused after the first bite. I was like, I mean, pick a lane. What are we got? They did. It is scenes. That is a first for me. I've never seen something more than this. I've never seen black. I've never seen anything like this.

I've never seen black. Yeah, man, I got all these black beans but they're not staying in the tortilla. I got to have them stick with something. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here.

We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. We've got these green beans right here. I was sitting here trying to reconnect with whatever was that I remember being I remember looking at the floor the like old wooden floor in the one on 12th of the mar and stewing and getting mad

waiting for something and being like fuck this place and fuck these people I'll never come into this fucking place again but I don't remember why but I will say after spending a day or a morning with the yellow version of Austin,omaco, completely unremarkable. Yeah. I mean, it's fine. This is a better, it's a better ice coffee than I had at Turnstile, but I give it like

a six. It's a, it did some other location for me. Yeah. Like, it's so far from the studio from where we know, like we said, South of the river. I don't think I would ever come here seeking out Austin Java, but I mean, feel it. It's fine. Okay. But imagine that there was one by the office. Would you go there for that for what we just had? No, probably not. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like they used to be all over the place and then that's what they're turning in with one location. It was

fine. It was fine. I'll say this about the tacos too. And this may only make sense if you've been in Austin for a while, but the tacos were very 2005. Well, that's a way of putting exactly what I ate. Yeah. It was very representative of what a breakfast taco was in Austin in like 2004-2005. What's your very first taco then? Right now? Yeah. I eat a taco reedo a lot.

Oh, yeah. There's a couple of them. Oh, ill-toc- Yeah, yeah, yeah. I eat there a lot. I like Veracruz. Oh, Veracruz. Okay. Excellent. There's one right, yeah. I eat there a lot. I like Veracruz. Oh, Veracruz. Okay.

And there's one right by the studio too, over in the Mueller. Yeah, Veracruz gets fucked. That place is crazy because they will shut off their online ordering on the weekend. Oh, really? Yeah, because the weight is so long. Oh, wow. Yeah, I've gone there before, but like,

oh, I'm right by Veracruz. I'm gonna stop in and order something and wait like an hour to get food. How about you? So busy, I'm not a big breakfast person. You know, I don't typically eat in the morning. Today I've got a fucking crazy. I need to eat.

This is my only chance to eat until like 7 PM tonight. But I would go to Veracruz. I think they're pretty solid. There's a, it's not necessarily breakfast tacos, but there's a great Mexican place. It's, this sounds like I'm making, I'm like putting a big asterisk on it, but I'm not a vegan Mexican place. It's like, this sounds like I'm making, I'm like putting a big asterisk on it, but I'm not, it's a vegan Mexican place. It's called Nissy. They have a brick and mortar

up at like Burnett and 183. Okay. They have some excellent tacos. Burnett and 183. You know where like a like a ginger mattress and all that shit is? Yeah. Like like, okay, yeah. Yeah. Like on the other side of Burnett from Trudys. Okay. Like back behind the Olive Garden and all that. Yeah. Okay. And they're, they Yeah, yeah. And they're really good tacos and beans and rice, I think that place is fucking excellent. And it's vegan? Yeah, everything's vegan. Really good.

Went there just last week. How about you, Eric? What's a good breakfast taco? If your, I think Veracruz is great. I think Taco Deli is fine. I think you could get, like, that's the one that I feel like everyone goes to and you just go, okay, This is whatever

Talk about 2005 tacos. Yeah, right big time. That's Austin to me is that thing. Here's the deal with taco deli Mm-hmm if you go to a coffee shop in Austin and you get a breakfast taco and they give you a taco deli taco You're gonna get a 2004 taco if you go to taco deli and eat in taco deli. It's a totally different Yeah, much better totally different quality go Go to Taco Deli if you can. There's a place way on the east side. We go out and play baseball and kind of hang out and stuff. And it's called like, it's like a Norteños, like chicken place. So it's like that flat kind of like grilled chicken,

they chop up and everything, that's really good. Like this poiled Norteños place is really good. They got, they used to be a food truck's really good. Like this poiled and retinueous place is really good. They got a, they used to be a food truck, I guess, and then now it's like a brick and mortar. So it's like, it's, it's nice. There's a food window on Maynard called Taco Mechs. Oh, yeah. That place is fucking awesome. I don't know about the breakfast tacos.

I only got dinner tacos there, but that's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's fucking great. Yeah. Okay, well, we shouldn't start wrapping up, but I want to get a couple of names, guest. Oh, right. Uh, we got, you boy Alex said, answer me anything or answer me. Austin.

No. Yeah, I didn't think so. Uh, annoying men arguing from Oscar Mike. That's very, very apt. That's a, yeah, I thought that was a pretty good one too, but, um, uh, animosity, Austin, no, oh, this is from Sam. Samuel, Samuel says says ant manor or Ant-Manor that's how that's gonna say that manor here. No, no, that's not it. Okay. How about anger me again?

Mm-hmm. Also very apt, but no no Have we got to be getting close to the name. Oh, absolutely. Really? Oh, yeah, wow I've heard some real good ones. That's not since here what he just did No, it does it also doesn't help us that is sincere. That is absolutely sincere It just at manner so close Well, thank you for another episode if you want to follow us on Twitter on Instagram You can at and my podcast you can check out where we just had a cup of coffee with coffee looks like and see Gus and Jeff cheers a little coffee which we need a sure of. Oh that's a good idea we'll do it while we're recording hang on let me

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