ANMA - Live from RTX

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

Good morning, Gus! And good morning RTX attendees. Our first episode back after a short break is our live RTX episode. Join Gus and Geoff as they take a question from a guy named ThrashBandicoot, talk about the most profitable day in RT history, who would win in a fight, habits, and more. Even if you're not a live episodes person, check this one out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, everyone. Thanks for waking up early and coming to join us for Anima and Erkimi anything couldn't say that last year. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that last year we had the bootleg recording Okay, this is being recorded. This is going to be released as like an episode Dennis we found out is the leaker and he did not have to record it on his phone this time He might be up with there. Yes, I say he's over there, I think. What are you phone away, dude? Yeah, it's weird doing another one here in the convention site. At least we're in a different room this time.

Last time we were upstairs. Just because we don't repeat locations. Yeah. That is interesting. Yeah. It's a second time. But it's a different. We're on the north side of the convention center

last year. The same or the south side. How many more RTX is do you think we can do? We can find different locations in this building before we have to move off site? Well, the thing about that is, I think they're gonna close the Convention Center for renovations here real soon.

I think it's gonna be close for like three years. It's shut down for like five years. It's not like, oh yeah, we'll get this done really quick. Like we're gonna compete with Los Angeles and it's like, good try Austin, okay. The thing I love about this, we've been to a lot of convention centers. The thing I love about this convention center

compared to other ones, you see we talk about this last year is that there's no columns on the floor. Like if you look around here, there's no columns obstructing the show floor. Audience, was anybody here last year at the Anima panel? Y'all were?

Did he talk about this last year? I didn't remember, okay good, y'all were. Feel you're okay. Did he talk about this last year? I didn't remember. Okay, good. It's new content. But this place does, this place could use a facelift. I'm always frustrated locally when people object to commit your center expansion. It's extremely gray.

Why do you say that? It's not gray. All I see is gray. Oh, I thought you meant the issue was gray. Like it wasn't black and white. No, dude, the floor is gray. The walls are gray. The fucking ceiling is gray. Jeff is gray. Oh, I thought you meant the issue was gray. Like, it wasn't black and white. No, dude, the floor is gray, the walls are gray, the fucking ceiling is gray. Jeff is here. Jeff is here to talk about the nuance involved in the expansion of the convention center

local. I'm just agreeing with you. Well, the convention center, the floor, this room should not have personality. The personality needs to be applied by the event. So I think the gray works for that. I understand what you're saying. It's a blank canvas. I still think that it could have designed elements in it.

What would you do? You're designing the new convention center, Jeff. We just hired you. You have five years to turn this place into your dream convention center. Day one, step one, you got to go to home, do you poem by some paint? Okay. What color are you buying to paint this room? Yeah, so what I'm doing is I'm probably staining the floor a little bit of a richer color, probably still in the gray spectrum, but it's be a little darker, a little deeper, then I'm gonna get stucco, and I'm gonna stucco all these walls white, kind of like at Juliet, that restaurant on...

Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? You're gonna catch the walls at Juliet? No, I never know. Go to... for everybody. I'm not five. Go to Juliet. Go to Juliet. It's over there in Barton Springs.

It touched the walls. They're just really smooth and nice. I'd do that to the walls. And then I would put some wooden beams ornamental at the top. And then I'd call the things. You would do a dark gray floor white stucco walls and expose to almost like a grayish black, yeah.

It's gonna look really good. I feel like you described most breweries that I go to that it's just like, here's exposed wood, and also we don't give a fuck about this floor. So what you're saying is you go there. Oh, oh, fair play. You recognize the aesthetic from places you go to. Nailed it. Well, I hope they bring you onto the project, Jeff.

It sounds like you got some bold ideas. Dude, I do too. Why are you so bullish on expansion of convention center? I think that a lot of people locally complain. They say, like, what's the point? And I think it's because lots of local people don't necessarily spend time at the convention center It's for people who are visiting and different events

This convention center is great because I love the flexibility of these exhibit halls were in but the size of the breakout and panel rooms can be difficult. There's a couple of big ball rooms and a couple of A bunch of small panel rooms, but nothing kind of in the intermediate size. Or if you want to have two really big panels going at the same time, there's not a lot of flexibility for that. Is this the driest conversation we've ever had? Listen, I helped plan RTX for years. So it's like, I have a very vested.

You want to go through the expansion plans and what they're going to do? Do you have change? I know I was I Did you have them committed to memory? Let's get Brandon on the phone. He loves that stuff. They're not good They're taking the street away, right? I think yeah, they're gonna expand that way over Trinity over Trinity. Yeah, we're a Fogo that's why I feel good a child moved. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's all that stuff right over there recipes Fogo. No, it still exists that just moved it's not like second street now. I think oh like second street. No, I think. Oh, is it? Do you know where second bar and kitchen used to be? Yeah, I think it's there. Over there, like in the, the base of the Estonian. Yeah. Like second and congress. Yeah. Okay.

This is the driest conversation we've ever. This is anima talking about where stuff used to be and where it is now. That's what we've been doing this whole time. Hey, where did we get coffee from today? We have gotten coffee today from the Fairemont Hotel, right across the Who's Staying at the Fairemont? Yeah, we went to the Fairemont Hotel, I went to the Fairemont Hotel this morning. They have a coffee shop called Good Things, I think. That doesn't include the coffee, does it?

It's a little on... It's very burned. So. It's very burned. So, I I will say if you're staying at the Fairmont a weird mix of folks it's you little gremlins a bunch of people in town who saw blink 182 last night in a bodybuilding convention James informed me when I saw him last night, oh, do you know about the bodybuilding convention that's in town?

And I went, does it look like I know about the bodybuilding convention that's in town? I think he wants to enter. I think he wants to give it a shot. He was looking for baby oil in the streets. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was driving past the fairmont yesterday morning. I'm going down to the event here.

And I was stopped at the light over here at Caesar Chavez in Red River. And as I was at the light, I was going westbound on Caesar Chavez. And it was that brief moment where the light was red in every direction. And then coming from the right on Red River was a guy like on a scooter. And I turned and I look at him. And as I'm looking at him, a rainbow-colored tennis ball comes out of nowhere and starts bouncing next to him. And he turns and looks at it and then just grabs it. And he starts looking around and I start looking around.

We have no idea where the fuck that came from. It's like it just materialized out of nowhere. Bounce twice on the ground next to him. He catches it. And then we're both looking around. I have no idea where it came from. It just materialized out of nowhere. Bounce twice on the ground next to him. He catches it. And then we're both looking around. I've no idea where it came from. Well, it wasn't one of you, was it? At first I was like, is that a moon ball?

But it wasn't bouncing erratically. It was just a rainbow color tennis ball. Do you know somewhere in Austin right now? That guy is at a coffee shop or at breakfast with his friend and he's telling him this story. He was like, I was just looking at this dude in a car. We just locked eyes. I was like, and a rainbow tennis ball came out of nowhere. No one like, I was just looking at this dude in a car. We just locked eyes for a second.

And a rainbow tennis ball came out of nowhere. No one believes him. I got it right out of mid air, sure man. Keep Austin weird, dude. Yeah. Yeah. You guys ever identify with that? Keep Austin weird.

You ever just like, hell yeah, this is our slogan that we like. No, I don't think so. No. No, we had it first. What's it? Us or Portland? We had it first. Portland? We had it first. Portland's definitely keeping it weirder.

Yeah, Portland's definitely a weird placement. I wouldn't say there's a lot of weird left in Austin. Now, it was started first in Austin, actually at the very first T-shirt fulfillment company we used. Outhouse designs. Oh. Did you do fulfillment, did they? They just printed it.

It's just our T-shirt printing, yeah. We were doing the fulfillment. Yeah, yeah. Our a t-shirt printing, yeah. We were doing the fulfillment. Our first t-shirt house, and they were the ones that came up with it initially. Yeah, I think they had like a display on their wall with the original design. I thought those guys were big time, I guess they were, because they did all my favorite restaurants in town. Oh yeah, they did all the chewy, chewy, and the fun.

That's how we found a lot of the people that we worked with was like we places that we went to, we would find out where they got their stuff printed and made like the mirror, we talked about this before. The mural that was in stage five, we contacted the person who painted the mural that was at home slice on South Congress. Yeah.

And the same thing, you know, we found who made Huts, Hamburger shirts and Frankenanjis and both there, both those places are gone. I was gonna say you just name it places same thing, you know, we found who made Huts hamburger shirts and Frank and Angie's and what, they're both those places are gone. I was gonna say you just name it places that aren't here. Yeah, they're gone. Oh, man. Have you been to Sammie's, the Italian restaurant that replaced Huts yet?

No, is it any good? Yeah. Yeah. Is it just a sandwich place? No, no. It's like a sit down like tablecloth Italian restaurant. Okay. Yeah, it's not just like traditional.

Why is it traditional? I just went to Italy not too long ago and it turns out what? A lot of people probably figured this out already but what we have in America is not Italian food. It's got the name but the Italian food in Italy, it's just all clams. Do they not have an ever ending possible? No, they don't. They don't have bread sticks. The bread sticks stop. It's a, yeah, in Italy, they just eat clams. They have clams in bread, clams in pasta. It's a peninsula.

It's like, yeah, it's surrounded by water everywhere. Of course, yeah, fish. You go and you're like, I get some lasagna and they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? Garfield would hate it. Yeah, he's not a fan. Yeah, it sounds like I would have a miserable time there. I don't like seafood.

I'm not a big seafood person. You would, they have other stuff. Like what? You just said it was all, we just said it was all clam. You get some fucking pasta, just ask them to take the clams out. I don't like clams either. Do you have butter noodles?

Can you replace the clams with spit please, thank you. You know what they don't have in Italy in the entire fucking country? Salt. They don't have it on tables. They don't have it in their food. Really? Yeah, it's like the... They're by the salt water.

They're surrounded by it on all sides. They're peninsula. I agree. They don't have it. It's not a, it's not present in their culinary. Are you salting your food regularly? Yeah. How's your blood pressure doing? Is it okay?

I'm not your person where I was going. Are you gonna be okay? Salt isn't everything. Right, so you're adding more. I just watched a commercial last night with Bradley Beale, NBA, three time NBA All-Star, selling water that he said when I was growing up, my mom would be put salt in my water when I was working out and I was

the only kid that didn't cramp at the gym. So now I drink salt water. That's not good for you. That's just like, pedeolite. That's all it's electrolyte. Which is very good for you. Okay, so you're salting your food. Are you saltting your water?

Did you just salt your coffee? You got to balance out the flavors a little. Oh yeah, what are you saying? No, I'm not salting anything, but salt is present in America. And when you go somewhere else, it doesn't have it. You notice the lack of salt. Yeah, but I'm not using it. I don't remember the last time I ever...

You've never gone to like a fucking diner and gotten eggs and bacon and put a little salt on your eggs. I don't think so, no. No, typically not. Pepper. Do how many raise your hands? Is, is Jeff being normal here? Oh, I mean, now I will say, if Jeff's being crazy, raise your hands.

So it's pretty split. It's pretty split. There's a lot more. There are a lot more. No, no, no, we'll call it even. We'll call it even? What call it even? That's why salt is on every table in every restaurant in the country. And that's why and that's why the number one killer in the United States. We are I think that might have a lot more to do with the food They eat the amount of it and the alcohol we all drink. Well, we all drink collect the collective we the royal we

How is your coffee? Well, we all drink, collect the collective way, the royal way. How is your coffee? This? It's all right. It's like a six and a half. That's maybe the lowest score you've ever given a coffee. Remember when we went to that coffee shop on Old Torf and I said it tasted like Old Torf? Yeah.

This tastes worse than Old Torf. Oh, no. This is better than that. This is the worst cup of coffee I may have ever had in my life. This tastes like dirty torque. Yeah. This tastes worse than old torque. Oh, no. This is better than that. This is the worst cup of coffee I may have ever had in my life. This tastes like dirty six. I put it down. I'm not going to finish. I can't drink it. Yeah. This is tastes like dirty six. No. This is if you want to taste downtown Austin in a cup, go over to the fair mont. Good things and ironic name. You mind stop not that way. It's okay. It's a little what's like what it's a let's watery You can smell how burned it is. All right, let me see is it more burned than the coffee nut we used to yes

It's really bland. Blaned. Did that come from coffee beans? It tastes like it came from a syrup. I don't know. What is this? Is this their drip coffee supposedly or is it an Americano? Nierhanna. No, it's not.

No. No. Try mine. No, it's not. No, no, no. Try mine. Maybe I'm mixing them up. I don't think I'm mixing them up. This is the grossest episode of Animaver. Welcome. Try it. That's an Americano.

Yeah. And that's why I didn't like it. So you're... That tastes infinitely better. Why don't you guys flip your fucking cups and then regrade. Okay. You're screwing the fair mod over here. I will say, I doubt I am. This is not great, but this is am. This is this is not great but this is okay this is

passable. This tastes like nothing but also burned. It tastes like nothing right? It's tastes like what's up therapy gecko? This tastes like there is I don't know that you can burn water but it tastes like old water. Oh, speaking of which, go check out the dunk tank. Filthiest water in the convention center. Oh, gross. We're all going to be dunked in the same way. They didn't change the water out.

Dude, it was dirty when I, it was dirty at the start of the event. You just run it from the hose. Do you think they brought the water from the last dunking with them? You did the dunk tank? I did the dunk tank yet. How did that go? It was good. It was my first time ever sitting on a dunk tank.

I realized a lot of people hate me because that line was super long. But it was like, I was a little nervous at first, but then after the first time, I was like, all right, this, whatever. It's just the anticipation of, am I gonna get dunked or not? Yeah. Like an idiot the first time that someone hit the target, like my arms went out like a cat.

I tried to stop myself and I think I hurt my left shoulder because I grabbed onto the fence as I was falling. When was the last time you went swimming? A couple months ago. Where'd you go? Beach. I'm not gonna get into it, the specifics, but I was at a beach. Okay. I can't believe you asked swimming. A couple months ago. Where'd you go? Beach. I'm not going to get into it. The specifics. But I was at a beach. Okay. I can't believe you asked that. You went

swimming on a vacation. Yeah. In a different location. Yeah. Well, last time you had swimming in Austin. In Austin. Oh, dude, I don't know. It's probably been like 20 years. I kind of guessed that. I don't know why could you used to love to float the river and used to love I remember there was a period of time when you would go to Barton Springs every morning That was probably the left time and swim when it was free. Yeah, really yeah, that was like 2001 2002. Yeah, I would have been before Ruchtieth. Yeah, sure. He was his health Regiment he was he decided he was gonna go swimming every morning. Wow, and it was gonna like

Build up his vim and vigor and then like and then I gave up and then the towers fell and you're like things are different now yeah things will never be the same yeah i think you got out of the water and started sleeping i think that's the part of the cake what do you feel like you were in your best shape of your life when you were swimming all the time well i'm just definitely not now i mean it's definitely gotten worse over time do you think you're in the worst shape of your life when you were swimming all the time? Well, it's definitely not now. I mean, it's definitely gotten worse over time. Do you think you're in the worst shape of your life right now?

Oh, undoubtedly. Wow. I think you reach a point and sad to say we're both past it, Jeff, where it doesn't get any better. It's only downhill. Oh, yes, I totally agree. For me, that point was 46.

That was where I kind of felt myself throw in the towel. Uh-huh. And just realized like, it's, there point was 46. That was where I kind of felt myself throwing the towel. And just realized like, there's no point. Yeah. I'm there. Yeah. 45. 45. Nice.

It tried her out there. Is good. Anybody else out there give up yet? Yeah, let's hear it for the quitters. There's one fucking dude way on the other side of the convention or holding up his thing. I gave up for the quits. At leastitian center holding on this thing. I gave him a lot of equipment. At least he's walking. Good for you.

Yeah. I guess he can hear us. He shrugged. I wasn't sure how doing the the panel out here like on the floor would work. How do you feel about it? It's good. I was nervous. I was trepidacers. Okay. It's good. It's working. How do you think the audience feels about it? I think they're good. There are no ones left except for that one dude who gave us a thumbs up. I don't think he was here to be good. It's my be the most boring panel.

Michael, I jumped. I did ask before we started that. That sounds way more fun than what we're doing. Well, it's what you're, aren't you going to the dunk tank later? Yeah, I got to be in the dunk tank later. What time's that? And so people can dunk you? I don't know. Oh, yeah? At some point later. Some by between now and the end of time, I will be. Is Jack in the dunk tank today? I think he's in right after this. Yeah, right after this, we should all go dunk-junk. Hey, do you guys fucking hate Jack too?

You should go dunk his ass as soon as we're done here. Yeah. He goes on at 11.15, which is right when we're done here. I think we should go over there and cut the line and dunk him immediately. Yeah, okay, I'll do that. We're doing the first ever Anima fuel trip. It's gonna be right over there.

The whole podcast is an Anima. Yeah, with everyone. That's insane. We, I speaking of insane, Jose, I don't know Jose is out there, but I met a dude yesterday who keeps a note book with notes for every Anima episode. Why? All of our locations that we talk about, there he is, and all of our ratings, like everything that we've talked about, took a little video here. Like a manifesto? Yeah, Jeff, that's why he took a video. Yes.

It's got a really nice handwriting. It does. Excellent penmanship, Jose. Wow, that's a lot of notes, though. It's a lot of notes. You can't see it, but it's just pages, after pages. It's all scrolling. And have you ever seen Seven?

Yeah, yeah. It just turns into one long word at some point. If you want to say he's over there, you can ask him. I'm sure he's probably yeah, he's got it right there You know, it's fine. I asked the audience beforehand. This is before we did our first supplemental Michael keep me kids. I'm gonna tell Michael to keep it down Before we did our first supplemental earlier this week, we'll actually be doing one later. I think probably add RTX.

Just me and Jeff, because they are non-canon episodes that Gus refuses to park. You and I tried to do on last RTX, but you forgot to change the batteries in the report. I didn't forget they died out of nowhere. Because you forgot to change the old. And you didn't bring back up batteries? He's the producer.

I always bring back up batteries. See, where are they? In my backpack. He's a producer. I always bring back up batteries. See, where are they? In my backpack. What's there? I'm not gonna pull them out. They're in there. Yeah, sure. This is a question from Thrasch Bandicoot.

On to it. Do you feel like Rooster Teeth directly affected the way creators approach their own content? Broadly. Industry-wide? That's a big question. I would never give us that much credit. You don't think there's any, and nothing you guys have done has changed the approach of it. I think we made, I think we made stuff look as easy as it is. I think that's well, it's honestly well put.

Yeah, I think we showed people how easy it is to do what we do. And that maybe inspired some people early on. And then it just became knowledge out in the universe that it's this fucking easy to have a career on the internet. Or at least it was at a time. How was your coffee still steaming? When you burn water, it refuses to stop. on the internet, or at least it was at a time. How was your coffee still steaming? When you burn water, it refuses to stop. We heard a story years ago back to the question

about some people who were involved in a professional Hollywood production. And they were all sitting around talking about planning this shoot they were supposed to do. They were out to a location and shoot the scene. And they were just paralyzed by process. And they're just sitting around like, we gotta do this, gotta do this.

And a couple of them were just sitting around, like, let's just go shoot the thing. Just gotta fucking shoot it. Just gotta shoot it. If you ever hear me and Jeff just say that. Just gotta go shoot it. We're referencing that to ourselves. Like, we just gotta go shoot the thing. Just gotta fucking shoot it. Just gotta shoot it. And if you ever hear me and Jeff just say that, like, right, I'm just shooting. We're referencing that to ourselves. Like, we just gotta go do it.

We just gotta go shoot it. And I think to Jeff's point, that was kind of maybe the thing we were showing is like, there is a certain amount of freedom you can do when you don't get bogged down by that process. And I think that's something that, as we've grown, we struggle with. Like the process grows, layers, present themselves, and then the process becomes formalized.

And it's like, it slows things down. And it's not as run and gun as it was once. It's the price of success in a lot of ways. It sucks. It's really tough. No, it really does. Yeah, I'm not happy about it. Yeah, like we talked about, and I said people have asked me about that new

podcast I want to do about, you know, we didn't start the fire. And like, I've been, even though we're moving forward with it, it's like, it's a slow process to get, you know, check all the boxes, get everything done, get all the approvals. And, you know, I'm glad we are where we are, but it's definitely slower than it was in the past. Yeah, I mean, my favorite time, like if I think about the best moments in the history of the company for me with you guys, because it really is, you know, and Anma's just got like a story of our friendship, because Rue Stratie is kind of a story of our friendship, including Matt and Bernie and Jason and Dan and Joel and Kathleen and Yomari, and everybody

involved, right? And Eric. Oh, heyari and everybody involved, right? And Eric. Oh, hey, what's up, dude? And Eric. My favorite moments in the company were always in the spare bedroom when we were making Red versus Blue in the first three years. Yeah.

First four, I guess, the beauty still felt like or the downtown office, not downtown, sorry. The beauty office. Downtown beauty office still felt like the spare bedroom to me. And then we kind of grew to a point where, you know, we had the Ralph Albinado office and we were much bigger than that. And I kind of got lost in that. And so I recreated the spare bedroom as a chief monitor and kind of

locked the door and hid away and tried to live in that spare bedroom as long as I could. And then a chief monitor grew that's unfortunately, or fortunately, not shouldn't say unfortunately, fortunately because it's awesome what it's grown into, what it's all grown into. But like, I'm a small spare bedroom kind of guy, and that's why face is now again,

a very small spare bedroom space and production, because I just, I can't. No, that makes sense. You have a lot more control over it. Yeah, I just get lost in how big things are, you know? I don't have the scope to over it. Yeah, I just get lost in how big things are, you know? I don't have the scope to handle it. I think you're very, I have this idea now, let's do it. And that's fun for me doing like these shows,

where you have something for a face, and it's like, we gotta go and do it. And it's like, yeah, hell yeah, let's do it. And then I don't have to go through a lot of this process. And I think that I think you get now, where you're saying like, that's the price of success. I think it's sort of this process, and I think that I think you get now where you're saying, like, that's the price of success. I think it's sort of crested and it's the other way where if you can show you're successful without having to go through like this process, you have a lot

more freedom to kind of do that stuff a different way until it has to start getting wrangled in again because it starts getting a little bit too wide where it needs to like narrow. Yeah, but you also, it's a balance, right? Especially I think, I don't wanna speak for Jeff, but I assume it's the same way where you also wanna lead by example and you don't wanna break that process. You wanna live within it and go through it

just like normal without circumventing it. I show that it exists for a reason. I try to be the best partner possible in terms of going through processes within the company because exactly like us said, I'm trying to leave by example and show that it exists for a reason and I'm oak, I'm on, even though I'm a co-founder of the company with us or in that, I'm still understand the value of that process and go through it as well and try not to take you Nobody likes the guy nobody likes the founder who walks in and is like

Hey, I'm the guy. I'm gonna say we'll do my we'll do this my way. We'll do this thing Screw your budget. We're gonna. I want to do this pet project, you know Nobody likes that and I don't think either of you are like that really I mean if you were the Gus's podcast would already be out really. I mean if you were the Gus's podcast would already be out. If we weren't we'd be doing the break show weekly. Yeah, no kidding. So who's coming to that later? Who's coming to the break show? What time is that Jeff? I don't know. Okay, that was a test to see if he really knew the dunk tank or not. He really has no idea about his schedule. 12 45? $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,, I appreciate it that tangent. You guys went on, I thought that was really good. I asked this one to Jeff before we came out here and I'm curious to see if you have

an answer for this guest. This is from NOAA-S. When was the single most profitable day of RT? Do you know? Or do you have a guess at what it might be? Man. His coffee is still steaming by the way. That's insane. Do you know or do you have a guess at what it might be man? This coffee is still steaming by the way that that's insane it was probably early on like when

The PayPal button was first put on the website for people to like pre-order the season one DVD Yeah, I mean expenses were so low right if we're going by profitability and not revenue Right probably be the day we turned on the paypal link. Yeah, because our expenses were two x three Xboxes Yeah, I put aside tangent you actually just reminded me of something I've had several people ask me if the Xbox is in the 20th anniversary museum or authentic if those are the actual boxes We started with two of them. There's two in there We started with red box and bluebox. Redbox, I believe, was given away for a charity thing several years ago. But Bluebox is in there. That is one

of the original ones. Newbox is next to it. That came around in season two, I think. So Newbox was not there from day one, but it was there very early. Pretty fucking early, yeah. But anyway, back to the question, I think it was probably that day. Yeah, I think so. I think we made $25,000 that day. You remember, I have no idea. Yeah, that feels right to me. Okay. In sponsorships, right? Yeah. In super sponsorships. Yeah, that first day. Crazy. Yeah. Wow. Because we really had zero expenses at that point. So it was I think a thousand percent profit. Yeah, it was a banner day That was the day that Bernie at we we were we didn't know what would happen when we turned on sponsorships and the reason we wanted to we in the reason

We had we created sponsorships was we wanted to give people a DVD at the end of the year But we didn't think we knew we didn't have the licensing and the rights to sell Halo property, right, on DVD. And so we created a sponsorship model where we said if you pay us $10 a month, you get the total. Total, $10 a month. Just like $10 for a season.

So for a 19 episode or 20 episode season, you would get the episodes three days early. I think what they would be published them on Fridays for sponsors Mondays for the public or Sunday. Yeah, you'd also get them in high resolution right a crisp 640 by 480 And it was 320 by 240 if you weren't a sponsor and then if you paid if you paid $20 for a season You we gave you a DVD at the end. So we weren't selling it to you.

We were giving it away as a benefit. And so the day we turned that on, we were still in the day job. And Bernie and I, Bernie turned it on. And then as a joke, he set it in outlook to make a cash register noise whenever an email came into that address. And then we went to lunch.

And we were sitting at like super salad or wherever the fuck we were eating, and Delaware subs probably, and uh, just like eat North subs, and Bernie got a call and they're like, hey man, we had to turn your computer off, and he was like, what? Why? And they're like, it was, it started freaking out, you'd probably have a virus, you're gonna have to look at it, it just started making cash register sounds over and over and over again to change, to change, is driving everybody in the office crazy so we just had to like pull the plug on it

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I don't know. We should find out if it's still open. If y'all ever get a chance, if you ever find yourself an old Torf in I-35. It's been white in 35. It's been white in I-35. There is an Omni hotel that has a pasta bar in the lobby that we used to go to. Not Italian at all. Not Italian at all. Not Italian at all. No, cool.

And you just, you pay like 11 bucks and it's all you can eat. And you just go through and you pick your kind of pasta and then you pick your sauce and then a million different ingredients and then breadsticks and a fountain drink and you can go through the line as many times as you want. And we used to. It was a treat though because like you said,

it was like 11 bucks, but that was like in 99 and 2000, and we were making like 10 bucks an hour, and it was like, okay, this is the one time a month we're going to the pasta bar. We're gonna fucking live it up. That pasta bar was located next door to where they filmed the office space, and the tech was too, and I was like, that was so fucking cool. I was like, yeah, we're eating next to a movie set. That's just an office park.

I thought the same thing too, but yeah, you're right. It's just, it's almost unrecognizable, because it's so bland. Like any other. And so unremarkable in every way, yeah. I think the most remarkable thing in the movie was that sculpture in front of it, which was like, that's fake, that's not even actually there.

It's just a boring brick office park. But I think we also liked it because it was way nicer than the call center we worked in. It had windows. The call center we worked in was such a fucking dump. It was a warehouse, and then they just built a little drop-sealinged office in the warehouse. So we were like in a box, in a bigger box.

And then we were all in little box cubicles. We were like Russian nesting dolls. It was boxes all the way down. Yeah, it was fucking dog shit. Except one cool thing about it was the bigger outer warehouse. The company didn't need it for anything. So the owner, Anthony, he would store like, I don't know, horse equipment and shit there.

He was like a hamster. Horse equipment? He was like a rancher, so he would have like ranch and shit out there in the back. He was so non-pluss about like, I don't know, horse equipment and shit there, he was like a hordes. Equipment? He was like a rancher, so he would have like ranch and shit out there in the back. He was so non-plussed about like, oh, this race rorses horse equipment. Yeah. Like whatever.

Anthony had a lot of horse. If you knew Anthony would be told since. Yeah. Dude. You guys know Anthony. Come on, some horse equipment guy. That dude has a story about burning a horse that is fucking, oh my god.

What? What? That's what you do when a horse dies, you burn it. So it doesn't come back? Yeah, exactly. So you're familiar with it. You say, that's what you know the story. Now because what are you gonna do with it?

It's a fucking 3,000 pounds and it's just laying there. It's like when real cowboys want a horse dies, they fucking just can't see it and set it on fire. I wouldn't think that a farmer would be worried about what real cowboys want a horse dies. They fucking just Kerosene it and set it on fire. I wouldn't think that a farmer would be worried about what real cowboys do Like I just would think that they use a tractor and move it or something But where? Dig a hole to the 20 foot horse grave Do you think you have to dig it deeper for a horse like you know people's like it'll come back You finish burying a house out people's like, it'll come back. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

You finished burying a little fence out. One time we were out at Anthony's place, he lived down near New brothels, somewhere south of town. Maybe New brothels or something. Is New brothels. And I don't remember why we were there. I think it was you, me, and Bernie. We were all out at Anthony's place for some reason.

And we found a paintball gun. And we were like, oh, maybe paintball is a thing we can get into. Maybe it's something we should do. But we were all scared. We've never been shot by a paintball gun. So Anthony lived on this big ranch. So we just drove out to the middle of nowhere on Anthony's land. And we all took turns shooting each other

once with a paintball gun in the woods. Just we didn't have a mask or anything. We were like, just don't hit me in the face, covering our face with our hands. We shot each other once to determine whether or not we could handle the paint, and if it's something we could get into. So we all shot each other, like, yeah, we could handle this.

We can do this. It's so fucking dumb. The last time you thought about that. It killed Jeff. How old were you guys when you did this? That's the last time you thought about that. Pff how tough my shoe is and I just shot my foot. And I almost blacked out from the paint. I heard so fucking bad. It was just like a Nike. It was a van.

I was from Vance. There's no padding. You just shot yourself in the foot. Yeah. That's a **** face. Dude, but that's a classic **** face. Yeah. God. I think that's what you do when. Dude, but that's a classic f*** face. Yeah. God.

I think that's what you do when you're young like that. It's just like, just dumb shit. Like, yeah, we're gonna go out and just get a sh**t out. You're gonna shoot yourself in the foot with a f***ing paintball gun. Isn't it? Because you're dumb. It's tough.

That's the most things where you got like, you do it and then after you get over the pain from it, you go, why didn't I have a second thought? Like, what's wrong that it never crossed my mind? It was a bad idea. Not even like I had to make a decision, like, it's gonna be worth it to figure it out. Just like, I didn't think no, at all.

Like, there was no voice in the back of my head. Anyway, so, in that warehouse, it was at his horse shit. He let me build a skate park. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. If you ever watched the Apple Switch parody,

we filmed it in that warehouse. Yeah. And I think it's true. Where I was standing for the Apple Switch parody was where your skate park was. It wasn't right by there. And so I was such a good model employee. And I think it was, so I would be around more often

when there were problems I needed somebody to fill in on the phones. They let me build a whole little skate park out there. And then I, uh, skateboarded at the skate park. At the skate park. It was you and John? John, uh, John Farrell.

Yeah. I just remember you two. John Farrell is every bit the peep best of Rooster Teeth. Yeah. It's a guy that was really good friends of this. It was like really in our friend group. Me, you, Bernie and John would hang out all the time And then right around the time we started ruchete he moved away. He he has a line in red versus blue. He doesn't seem physically possible

Yeah, that's him that doesn't the private Mickey. Yeah, because his name Yeah, episode 10. Yeah, that's him speaking of red versus blue, I guess, they announced a new season of Red versus Blue. Are you guys aware of this? Yeah. Yeah. I recorded a million lines of audio for it. Oh, that's great. There's a few hundred fucking pages of audio for it.

That's what I was going to ask. Are you excited for this new season, the final season of Red versus Blue? Yeah, I actually really am. I think maybe because I knew this would be it, you know, this would be the last time I'd be voicing that character. And, you know, it's not as big a part of what we do anymore, and it hasn't been for a very long time.

You know, I don't know how we probably record lines for our VB twice a year at some point. And it used to be, you know, what what Gus and I did like 80 hours a week For years and years and years and years and years and years and I definitely got like super nostalgic When I was doing it and I I had to break the session up into two sessions Just because I was getting a little I don't know. I didn't want it to end all at once. So I I just have a little bit of a sore throat, but I played it up so that they would let me out or really so I could.

So I have a question for you. When you recorded your audio going in, did you know it was the last season? Yeah. No one fucking told me. And about halfway through that script, I'm like, hey, what's going on here? Like seriously?

I know the part you're talking about. And I will, I cried all the way home. Wow. I did. Like, a good tears. It was just like, it felt like, I was trying to explain this to Gus, yes, right? I think I did a terrible job with it.

But like, it just felt like a sense of completion. You know what I mean? I don't know. It was nice. It was a nice book in from where we started over 20 years ago now, more than 20 years ago now, over. it's not grammatically correct from that, since AP Style Guy. More than 20 years ago, to then finally be like, ending it in a, what felt like a really poignant proper way, and I got to say, I thought Bernie did a tremendous job with the script.

It's one of the, I read it three times, I read it once to give notes and just to read it. And then I read it, I found myself reading it two entire more times through, which I do not do. I don't read stuff twice. Just because I just enjoyed living in that world again, but also just seeing how it all tied up. Yeah, I think it's really good.

Good on him, I think he's gonna make it. He's an up and coming guy. We'll see, we'll see, you know. It's nice that you guys gave him a shot. He's not getting any younger, I think he's going to make it. He's a up and coming guy. We'll see. We'll see. You know, it's nice that you guys gave him a shot. He's not getting any younger. I'll say that. I will say that when we do ANMA, there's a lot of talk sort of on the way there and on the way back that no one here

is ever recorded or is it a privy to or anything. And those are the conversations where you guys were talking about doing this new season of Red versus Blue, where I was in the common stories. Those are the conversations where you guys were talking about doing this new season of Red versus Blue, where I was in the back seat, and I was just going, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. I haven't, like, I haven't been invested or well watching or all this stuff or whatever, but you guys talking about like this ending

and how poignant and all this stuff was like, oh man, this is I'm so excited for this thing that you guys are excited about and that to me was like the most thrilling part is seeing you guys get Really really really stoked on what this last season is the thing that sucked for me to kind of try to give it a Time frame is you know like Jeff said my recording session was also broken up into two sessions I recorded the bulk of my audio in the first session, then I was supposed to go back in and record the second one, but someone gave me COVID, which delayed my finishing that audio for a couple of weeks, and then, you know, had to keep rescheduling, keep rescheduling, fine, was able to go back in and finish my audio for that.

Had you read it before you finished it? Yeah. Okay. So you understood what was happening. Yeah, and I was, I was, I don't know why we didn't just finish it in the first session. I was almost all the way done. You were a damn near done. Yeah, I was pretty close.

I'm also happy for the, like I'm happy and sad in equal measure for the characters, because you get to, you get to see the conclusion of their stories. And there's kind of near and dear to us. Obviously, Griffin Simmons gave us careers. Give us Grimmins. Give us Grimmins. Yeah. We got to be an SSX. We got to be a character in SSX.

Then get any better in that. Wait, what? It was in TRICCI. SSX TRICCI. It was a texture for Simmons. Oh, it was a Grimm's Simmons. Grimm Simmons, that was it. What? Yeah. What was a Dexter Bridge. It was a Dexter Bridge. It was a Grif... Yeah, a Grif Simons. Grif Simons, that was it.

What? What? You were playing tricky? Yeah, it's like one of the best games ever made. What the fuck? Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah.

I think we forget to talk about it because it happened... Like in 2004? Yeah, it was like right after we started. It was some very long, like season two or season three Now I have to replay SSX tricky again. I get to listen to the Run DMC's tricky. Oh my god. I'm a title music which might be the greatest intro ever Me and Sean from mega 64 would carry oaky that song back and forth because we played that game So god damn much that we knew every word. It was great. Wow. I know idea. Do you have any other insightful interesting questions from the audience? I do This one is from Michael's game lab who did some stuff for fuckface did the games and stuff for Andrew's stuff and

Before you read it, I want to do a quick shout out. I saw that you retweeted. I think that tour guard got his mug Got his mug. Yes. He guessed the name got his mug got his fuckface stickers and got a handwritten letter saying a fucker. Yeah, it was, you were there and also signed it. Oh, okay. You were there. So, I'm really glad he got that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He lives in like Europe. So shipping's already hard. And then he lives in the middle of nowhere in Europe. So it's just like, they put it on a dog and send it or something. Yeah.

Insane. That has been a universal truth since day one of Rooster Teeth that anytime anybody's ever won anything, or we've ever done anything cool for us and we go like, hey, that's awesome. Thanks for making that art or program or video game or whatever you did we want to send you some free stuff what's your address they go oh cool I live on the dark side of the moon and yeah and you have to rent a rocket to get it to me they love that they really do so So this is from Michael's Game Lab.

Who would win in a fight? In a fight, I think Michael would. He's really shredded now. Who do you think is fighting? They didn't specify. And I see him. I think they mean you and I. Oh.

I don't think we would ever fight. I think we would ever fight, but I would win. I would never, I would never want to hurt Gus, but I also would never lose together. I grew up on the border, man. You grew up getting beat up, not beating up. So I know how to pick a punch. You know how to pick a punch.

You don't know how to throw a punch. You never got that chance. Man, the school, a high school I went to was rough. I remember that when some of the girls were going to get into a fight, they would grow their fingernails out long. And they would take a hole puncher and hole punch the middle of their nails.

That way, each nail had two little sharp points on it. They scratch the shit out of each other. Catch, scratch. Catch, scratch. The dudes would take their plastic meal cards and cut them into hooks. Oh my! To use them like improv shivs.

You think you're gonna win against Gus? There were, it was more than one time where I'd be like standing at a urin all in the bathroom and there'd be a dude next to me and then some guys would come in and just like sucker punch him and they'd start being the shout out of him and I'd be like, all right, I'm done, I'm outta here. I can hold it. Yeah, I don't need to go that bad.

Schools were different back then. I've told the story, so I won't over tell it again, but like, there was a drive, there was a school shooting in my high school and we didn't end classes. And the dude didn't even spelled. He got suspended. He got to go back to school after he shot a kid in the leg. Two weeks later, like a dude was back in class. Like people didn't give a fuck back then.

Wow, Jesus Christ. The school shooting at my school, it was a girl. They just took her gun away. Yeah. I was in 10th grade in, I was failing geometry. I was in 10th grade, I was in geometry. And the girl next to me got called to the principal's office and I was like, oh, you're in trouble. And she's like, fuck you. And then she came back and I'm like, what'd you do?

And she was like, I just want to teach her to walk by and saw my gun and my car. And they just thought I had to hide it. And I was like, what'd you do? And she was like, ah, they just like, one of the teachers walked by and saw my gun in my car and they just thought I had to hide it. And I was like, oh, okay. That's just what, that's, I just went to high school in Alabama too. Fucking just country motherfuckers. Wow.

Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'd win. Yeah. I was talking to a former face jam intern cat yesterday and she was telling me that she went, she's like, I went to a wedding face jam intern cat yesterday. And she was telling me that she went, she's like, I went to a wedding in Mexico. And I'm like, oh, cool, where is she?

Like, it's like a border town. And I'm like, oh, what was the town? I don't remember the name. And she was like, but we were like, you go through, like, we were like, eagle pass. And I went, no way. Yeah, I know where that is. So crazy.

What a small, also her uncle, like, knows Shane. Like, she is so. I just saw Shane right here. She's so connected without being connected. It's really bizarre. Anyway, she works here now. Um, I have... She's a producer.

Yeah. I knew she was an intern. I don't know if she was back. She's been back for like six months. She has? She's at the office all the time. Is she? You were there all the time, too.

I saw her once. I thought she'd come back to visit and you were the time, too. I saw her once. I thought she had come back to visit and you were giving her a tour. She works with us. She produces always open and right now she's producing off topic and she's also doing a red web stuff. Yeah, what? What? I didn't know that. Sorry. You're in that building every day. I have more than anyone else. I'm always in our office, the one over there on the other side. Is she coming there? She's never been in there.

She's never been in there? No. No. I don't know which room she has or has not been in. I just know she went to Eagle Pass. OK. I do have another question, but is there something you guys wanted to get to?

It just seemed like there was something you wanted to get to. It seemed like you wanted something like you were kind of like building to like a big crescendo or something like really heartfelt. What? I felt like you were priding us to say something. Do we were supposed to talk about something? No, not at all. You want to talk about something? No. Is this something we talked about backstage? No.

No. It's just the way you asked made me think that you were. What did I ask? Do you have any more questions from the audience? Well, we got 13 fucking minutes left. Okay, just held up a thing that said 10. We got 10 fucking minutes left. I'm just making sure. I'm just trying to get the sauce out.

The sauce? Yeah, you're doing this. What? Get the entertainment out. Let's go. Ask the questions. We'll give the answers. You're doing what?

Squeeze the tube, man! What kind of toothpaste do you use? Crest. Or, uh, yeah, crest. I used to be a collage guy, but Emily is a crester, and so I just fell in line. Yeah. What do you go, Emily?

I'll just do whatever she says. It's been working out for you. It's good. Don't worry. She's fixing your hair backstage. Like a mom cat. It's been working out for you. It's good. She's fixing your hair backstage. Like a mom cat. It was pretty cool. This is from Cornflopper. Are there any habits that you said specifically that Jeff carried over from his army days when you worked at the call center early days of our tea, but I think that's kind of point you to both of you. Are there

any sort of habits that you picked up early in life that you sort of have carried through to like your work even now? Things that maybe you let go and then other stuff that you. Avoiding people, avoiding physical contact, not looking people in the eye. Great. What kind of toothpaste do you use? Thank you for asking, since it I.

V2! I was gonna fucking do it, dude? I was going to guess you were a Sincere. Got like one, two, kind of, a sense of that. It's like weird, so I get you Sincere. Sincere is good. It's expensive as fuck. It's because you're paying for the good stuff, man.

It's way too pricey. I wish. I wish we could be a Sincere. You can get a Sincere in family. What about you? That question was more aimed at you. I think you carried over. Can I, I'll prod you a bit. You can't start forming, I don't know.

I'll prod you, I'll give you a thought starter. I think going from the army to, when I first met you, right, going from the army to the call center, you carried over a very objective-based mindset when it came to work. You, like, I think you, that's why we were amazed when you started working at the call center, how efficient you are on the phone. It was just like, when you get in there, you're gonna knock this out, like, I think you went that's why we were amazed we started working at the call center How efficient you are on the phone? It was just like when you get in there gonna knock this out like I'm gonna do this and

When we're done we're done It was what he said that made me sound awesome. I thought that was a great thought starter for you to go Yeah, and I got it from this and I do know I think I think it's a lot of it from a military time It's probably just I was very efficient. I tried to be a objective based problem solver. When I approach a problem, I'd look at it with an objective or objectively, I'm not sure how we minute. And that's really how I would tackle things.

And I just, you know, I guess that's just carried over throughout the years. A lot of, you know, a lot of objects. I think one thing that has stuck with us from working at the call center is our absolute refusal to talk on the phone. Yeah. We cannot, neither of us can call anyone for anything. When we would live together and we would have to order pizza

before you could order pizza on the internet, we would fight over who would have to call to order the pizza. It would be like, it'd be like, not it, shit. And the other person who didn't have to get the door would hide in the hall with. What? That's not even talking on the phone. We were like house cats. You know, like one person would be getting the pizza, they would be hiding under the couch.

In all seriousness, I think the army taught me how, and I've read a lot about it post military, and apparently it's really not good for your brain, but the Army taught me how to multitask. And then tell a network, the call center required me to multitask. And then Rooster Teeth, for the first eight years, required us all to multitask to the nth degree. And so I think I was suited for that because of the military. And I think a lot of people maybe say or think that they're good at multitasking, but I think most people cannot.

Yeah. Like you can do one thing and kind of keep a second thing, maybe going a little bit in the background, but it's really hard to focus attention to two things. You learn a skill working at a call center, managing a call center that I've never seen replicated in any other industry, and I certainly never experienced in the military or anywhere else, where you have to, there are maybe 25 people in front of you on calls all at the same time, and you learn to be able to listen to most of those conversations all

at the same time, enough to understand where things are going right and wrong, so that you can focus in in that direction. And it's almost like sonar, you know? And, yeah, I think that's true multitasking. Yeah, that's a totally useless skill now, but yeah. Yeah, you'll never use it again. Yeah, you definitely had to practice that. We're getting close to time, but I think this, you'll never use it again. Yeah, you definitely had to practice that.

We're getting close to time, but I do want, I think this is a really good question to end on. This is from Reco the Gecko. On, no, different, no, not the Rope Gecko. Oh. This guy's name is simply Reco. I don't think you know each other. Just you think Gecko doesn't matter.

Does it what's the point? Does Reco have a modern life? That's a different. The socks. What production do you think you could do better if you tried it now? RTX. Really?

I was terrible at it. Really? Really? Just I learned a lot. I liked it. I thought you did good when I was on the river. Yeah, but we could have done things more efficiently. I think things are better now. I think if I. I liked it. I thought I did good when we could we could have done things more efficiently I think things are better now. I think if I had to do it over

I could have done those earlier one's much better. I was at Weston in the marketing team and everything they've done a great job They're killing it absolutely cool. I love the show floor here and that wasn't a spot where you needed to applaud It's save it for me. Don't don't stop this sucks. It's building How did that happen? I think some of the ideas they had were great. I think the, you know, West just kind of emailed with the idea of the dunk tank. Yeah. You know, me able to bunch of us like, would you be willing

to do it? And I was like, oh, hell yeah. Absolutely. I think, you know, some really cool ideas. I was surprised we all said yes. Yeah. Me, I didn't, dude. I was surprised I said yes. I was talking to Blaine about it yes. Me, I didn't, dude. I was surprised I said yes. I was talking to Blaine about it and going like, I didn't have to reply to that email at all because so many people said yes by the time I saw it,

which was 15 minutes after it was sent. Well, he sent me an email and I saw it immediately. And it was one of the things where it's like, I can't expect other people to do it if I don't do it. Yep. So I replied immediately, yes. If I can't do it, nobody should be able to do it. Or if you're not prepared to do it. But yeah, they did a great job this year. I'm really happy with them. I think Wes was telling me he's never done live event planning before.

Is the best flowing floor space we've had. Oh yeah, I'm sure. He did something I always wanted to do when I was planning RTX, which everyone told me know, which was keep put these aisles here on a diagonal. I don't know if anybody notices that. It's not a grid like everything else out here, like things are at a diagonal, which I love. Yeah. Any production you think you'd do better now?

Man, I was just going through and trying to give that an honest answer and I don't think so, but not because, I think I was better than I am. Like I don't know that I'm better now than I was in the past. More experience. Yeah, I think it's more that like there's stuff that I can do now that I couldn't do then.

I don't think I ever could have made face 10 years ago. I don't think I was comfortable enough as an inner, like I was so, I don't know about you. I don't know how it worked for you, but I felt so beholden to the video game for so long as a tool. I felt really kind of comforted by it, but also trapped by it eventually. I don't think I would have been, like I was never at a point where I felt comfortable doing what we're doing now, which is just trying to be entertaining without having the hood.

Without that security bike. Without that security bike, right? But when I was younger, I had a lot more energy and excitement for what we were doing at the time. And, you know, I don't know. I don't have that now. Great. Great.

You know, Erly, I don't remember what year it came out, but probably right around 2003, maybe around the time we were starting with Street, that's when, you know, lazy Sunday played on SNL for the first time and became really big, it was like the first really big video on YouTube. And I remember watching that and thinking that it was such a strange premise for a video, but the only reason that it worked was that Chris Parnell and Andy Sandberg committed 100% to what they were doing. And I remember thinking at the time watching it that, you know, I knew we were going to do

live action at one point. That whenever we did live action, I had to let go of those insecurities and I had to try to commit. So whenever in the early days when we were doing shorts, I would always think of the lazy Sunday video and be like, I have to commit like Chris Parnell and Andy Sandberg did and not be self-conscious about how I look or what I'm doing because the end product

has to look good from the screen, which is such a fucking weird thing to think about. That's good. I mean, that makes sense. That's great. I think we probably need to wrap it up. So, thank you so much for coming. You can follow us at ANIMA Podcast, on Twitter and on Instagram, updated once a week when the episode comes out because I don't. You can see the wasp.

You can see, oh, we did post pictures of the wasp. Yeah, that was so gross. Yeah. It's fucking brutal, right? That was awful. I'm glad I wouldn't have to worry about a creature flying down and eating us. That if something came down right now, I'd fucking lose it. Like every time you went out to get the mail, you had to be like, I hope the fucking giant was doesn't eat me. Yeah, terrible. You'd have to watch like, you'd have to watch like weather reports for giant wasps for insects and shit. Like don't go outside today. It's real wasp. Wasps are hungry.

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