ANMA - McGus the Crime Dog

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

Good morning, Gus! We headed to El Tigre off 12th st because Geoff got tacos over here the other day and really wanted to check it out. What a cool hidden gem. Gus and Geoff talk about CVS Bingo, Cuantos tacos, Jack’s stolen laptop, Achievement Hunter zen, Work dread, Valve & Gabe Newell walking in, Simpsons & Futurama, Our trip eras, and F1. Did you know Geoff is playing video games again? Check out Let's Play on Youtube http://youtube.com/letsplay Sponsored by http://uncommongoods.com/ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Caw. Press O. That's press O. Yeah. Um, we talked about meeting Gavin in England, uh, saving the website, uh, disasters and conventions. Slow Mo guys bucket list items working with Guy Ritchie and the end of We talked about meeting Gavin in England, saving the website, disasters and conventions, slow-mo guys bucket list items,

working with Guy Richie and the end of achievement hunter, but that was all last time. Now this is episode, yes, this episode, yeah, that's all old. Is she talking about that? This episode 59, so I leave it to you. We're at El Tigre in East Austin, not the old trailer, but the new building, which guesst in for me is Spanish for El Tiger. Yeah, it's a little bit of knowledge for today.

It's the Tiger. We passed by, it's funny, we passed by some condos or apartments on the way here that you and I both remember it as different things, but it was the same place. It's like, we were driving by that empty lot. I was like, oh, that's where the CVS used to be. And you were like, oh, wait, I thought that's where the bingo place was. Yeah, it was a CVS first. And they came with bingo place. When did CVS become bingo? I think CVS became bingo like in 2001, 2002 maybe? That sounds about right. Yeah. And then it was like, they painted it pink.

It was like this big pink building right off a 35, like 35 and 12th for many years. And now it's, and then it was abandoned for a long time. And then now it's just apartments or condos or whatever, like everything else around here. Well, good morning, Gus. Yes, good morning, Eric. When was the last time you played Bingo?

Ah, man, I haven't played Bingo in 15 years maybe? Yeah, something was somewhere on there. I'm a big Bingo guy. When was the last time you played Bingo? Like two weeks ago? I went from Millie's, when Millie turned 18. I wanted to do 18 year old stuff with her, so it's like here, buy some lottery tickets.

I can't buy cigarettes, can't drink. Let's go play Bingo. And the last time I played it was with my grandmother so it wasn't like American being was Mexican like the Latvia yeah yeah with like all the different pictures on it and whatnot played with her that's that's probably the last time I played bingo oh my have you tasted your coffee yet no is that a good or my or bad oh my I think it's good you think it's my? I think it's good. You think?

I think it's a good ol' my. It's just I got hit with a flavor. It's a little like cinnamon-y. That's fucking fantastic. Like that caught me, that took my breath away. Might be really smooth, I don't have that. Maybe, yeah, maybe a little bit of cinnamon, yeah. Let's see.

All right. I have the Americana. You wanna take a sip? No, I'm talking about the... Let's talk about the coffee, I guess, at the beginning. I don't mind. I'm sorry, it just like in the refrigerator. You wanna take a sip? No, I'm talking about the coffee. Let's talk about the coffee, I guess, at the beginning. I don't mind. I'm sorry, it just like hit me. This is really good.

This is, this is my, well, here's the thing. L.T. Gray is also a coffee roaster. So they are handling their beans from probably when they're green through the process of what was just brewed for us now. So I think what you have is people who are very particular and very specific about the way things are made and handled this cup of coffee.

I got the regular like brewed drip coffee. There's no bitterness. It has like that fruity sourness that I really like in a coffee, that's awesome. I could slam this. It is so smooth and easy to drink. Like you said, no bitterness at all. I got the ice to maricano.

We need Eric. We need to stop going to good places. Yeah, we need a stinker to hear. Cause I- What happened? I mean, we'll have to, well let's, let's hold off on our rankings to be finished and at the end.

But like, holy shit. This was your recommendation. Yeah, just because I was here Saturday, there's a taco truck that everybody's been talking about for a while now. It's not like a new thing called Quanto's Tacos. And it's like a little, little two bite tacos. And so Emily, oh, and they have this one.

They have this other thing where instead of a tortilla, it's fried cheese. And that's a tortilla. Oh, so good. Anyway, so Emily and I went Saturday morning, and it's over here on the east side on MLK, I guess, 12th, so good. Anyway, so Emily and I went Saturday morning and it's over here on the east side on MLK, I guess, our 12th. 12th, 12th.

And we went by LT Grey Coffee to go to Quantas Tacos, and I saw it and I thought, oh, so I mentioned it to y'all. We should check it out. By the way, Quantas Tacos are phenomenal. And then we tried to go to Des Nudo because I've been talking it up to Emily and there was probably 80 people in line, like no joke, probably 80 people in line.

It's because of the podcast, because of us. Yeah, so we should, we shouldn't have done that, I guess. They got stomach lining on there. Let's see, they got suaveiro, cachete. One of those is probably is, I don't know, I don't know what the word for stomach lining is. Jeff was telling us in Quanto's tacos, you can get a six pack of tacos, which you should, if you get. Interesting. There was one that was a weird one, I thought it was stomach lining, but I didn't, I wasn't going to get it Emily was. Yeah, the, the thing about the, that's the kind of, when I of tacos, which you should, if you get. Interesting. There was one that was a weird one. I thought it was stomach-lining, but I wasn't gonna get it Emily was.

Yeah, the thing about, that's the kind of, when I think tacos, that's why I go to one taco in Austin, because you can get the little two-biter. Yeah. And then you only have to order, if you order three tacos, the guy doesn't make fun of you, because what you do is you spread it, you take the two tortillas and you spread it out,

and then you take the overpack from the two tacos and you can make like two tacos out of it. So then you get six and he doesn't, he doesn't call you like names that you don't quite understand. You're a stopgur. Yeah, yeah. When you order, he doesn't go, moss and you go, okay, thank you.

Sorry. I tell you man, as we're sitting here in the front of this adorable little old white house, probably built in the 40s, that is LT Grey. Next to this other adorable little white house with all the white houses. With all the iron fencing and then this wall behind this with all the Texasy Cowboy shit painted on it, including little aliens and cactuses, marroses and a lot of snakes and boots.

It's just a very Austin feelin' place. I am starting to regret leaving the East Side. Oh really? Yeah, I mean, I've been over here a lot lately because of this and also going over to try to eat a Qantas talk, isn't stuff. And, you know, I lived over here on this side of town for probably 12, 14 years and I don't

need more and god damn is it cute and adorable. Well, I will say, you know, I think it's expensive to move back to. Yeah, the that look or this look and this feel of East Austin that you know, you say you miss does not exist where you used to live anymore. I think that that target is moving. Yes. You know, where you lived is definitely very different. I think at one point it was like this, probably back. Yeah.

It's a little more established now, almost 20 years ago. But it's like a moving eye of gentrification, has moved in a different direction and it's over here now. Now that you pointed out, it's really bothering me that all these houses are white. Really? All of them. I guess that one over there's almost like a pale blue

right across the street from us. But they are all white. Well, there's really only these, it's like a little spot of just these houses too. Right? There's not everything else around here. It's like more industrial or businesses. For now. For now.

For now. Yeah, I was probably not for long, huh? Yeah. But yeah, it's just, you know, that's one of the things we always talk about. It's like that constant evolution of the city and the constant like moving of whatever is hot or whatever people want.

It's probably good that I don't live over this part of time anymore because it is where all the partying and drinking. It's a great place to be in your 20s and 30s when you like to go out and drink and be social and stuff. But if you're close to 50 and trying to stay sober, probably not. Probably better than I don't live over here anymore, you know. Where I gonna walk to 86 bars from my front door.

But you can at least visit over a couple times a week. It's nice to get back to the side of town. I never thought Austin would be big enough and busy enough where it would feel like effort to go from one side to the other, like California style. But we're definitely there now. Well, if anything, it's like, it's not necessarily that the city's going bigger.

It's also just a matter of like the congestion and getting from one part to another. I guess that's what I mean by big. It's filling out, right? Like I have a friend that lives down southeast over down by kind of by the old office. And I went to go spend a couple days with him. He's a painter and we were hanging out.

And it took me like an hour to get from my house to his house the other day in traffic. And that's like 15 minutes away. I was like 60 minutes. I was late because I didn't consider that, yeah, Austin is crazy, crazy, fucking busy. And it is now hard to get from one side of town to the other.

How often do you find yourself driving on 35? Not often. Twice a week maybe. Okay, I don't know. When I come, I go, I pass 35, I cross it to go. But you know, I'm not just being like on. I'm dealing with it right now. I feel like I spend way less time on it than I ever did in the past just because it has become so difficult and I felt like we talked

about this years ago when you know back in the late 90s early 2000s about how the mark of being someone who spent any appreciable amount of time in Austin is figuring out how to get we're going without getting on 35 or without using any of the highways. Like in the pre-GPS days, like knowing like, oh, it's gonna be really backed up now. I got to figure out another way to get around there. And that skill may still be useful, but GPS negates it and every word's full. It doesn't matter what route you take. Right. It's gonna be everybody has ways everywhere.

So everybody goes the same ways. Oh, that's why they call it that. I just got it. I'm realizing, quick sidebar. I'm realizing here, we've talked about this before in previous episodes, you can see what are the moon towers from here. It's off, just a little east of you,

you can see the top of it peeking out over some construction over there. How many of those we got left, like 12 or 16, something like that? I think it was like 10 or 12 somewhere around here. We got about half of them left, and I think we ordered 36 totally. Yeah, we still see one of them over there. How many of those we got left, like 12 or 16, something like that? I think it was like 10 or 12 somewhere around the corner. Yeah, we got about half of them left, and I think we ordered 36 totally. Yeah, there's three of them. You still see one of them over there.

I say we, as if I was in Austin in 1890, when they were ordered. 1893, I think, is when they ordered them. But yeah, they're over there. So I was thinking the other day, I don't remember, it was not me if we've talked about this before. I was thinking about Anima related stuff or stuff that we were ever talked about in a while.

And do we ever talk about when Jack's laptop got stolen? We've talked about it another stuff. I don't know if we've talked about it. On this podcast. I don't know if I know about this. Is laptop got stolen? We were out shooting the Doom the, the doom immersion, which was like you get loaded up with a bunch of stuff

and like try to, you know, walk around and do an obstacle course, I carry a bunch of girls. Yeah, you know how like video game characters have unrealistic inventories? Yeah, so we were trying to like physically carry everything in the doom guys inventory. And I fucking killed it by the way. We found out that Jack's house had gotten broken into.

Oh wow. And it stole a, it's a reaction. It stole a bunch of his stuff like video game console, like all his electronics. What? I hit him twice. Are you serious?

Yeah. Oh my god. And, I couldn't carry it all like, do you guys, do you guys, do you guys, do you guys, do you guys, do you guys, do you like, do you guys have any of that? I'm the most defeated I've ever seen to human beings. And one of the things they stole was his laptop.

And Jack, I remember, was really worried. He's like, man, they took my laptop. I don't even have a password on it. I was like, what do you mean you don't have a password on it? He's like, yeah, I don't want to type it. So it's like, you open it and it's just, you know, it's just logged in. It's just there.

Like, well, that's dumb as hell. Yeah. But it worked in our favor. Because at the time it was before we used, before the internet was very different back then, right? We still ran our own web server. I was the guy who ran us before we at a bear worked with us.

And I was like, well, if they open your laptop, and did you leave your email program open? He was like, yeah, if they open your laptop and it's just logged in, if they connect to their Wi-Fi, your email program will try to check its email. I said, so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna change your password so that it'll start rejecting it. Then I'm gonna set up a small script to monitor the email log,

the email server log, and when I see rejected logins from your account, we'll know what their IP address is and we can give it to the police and the police can find these people in a restaurant. What year was this where you were going to give the IP address to call us? This is 2009, maybe? What was it that early? I was downtown.

I was at that late. No, we were, where were we downtown? Yeah, we were downtown. We didn't know Jack before downtown. I'm sorry, I spoke wrong. I thought maybe it was Ralph Alblonado. But 2000, 2009, 2010, something like that. It was definitely, we were definitely in the downtown office.

But I had my Prius, which I bought in 2010. Oh, you know what, I'm a fucking liar. I'm sorry, Gus, we weren't downtown. Because we didn't start immersion until we were in Ralph Alblonado. Correct. So I was to have been 2010, because I just got in my Prius.a, the name. Correct. So I was to have been 2010, because I think I just got in my purse.

Anyway, so it was 2010. So I set up this script, and then when we see it, I see it eventually, the alerts me like, oh, fail log in from Jack Seymail account. Like, oh shit, we got this guy's IP address. I look it up,

it's like at the time, like a time order cable, like some guy, and I'm like, I can't see who owns it, or who's using the address. I can just, I just know it's like a time order customer. So I contact the police and I'm like, I can't see who owns the, or who's using the address. I can just, I just know it's like a time-order customer. So I contact the police and I'm like,

hey, I mean, I'm calling about this case number, whatever. This is the guy's IP address who stole everything. He's just connected to the internet. And they're like, it's his what now? Saw that coming from a mile away. They weren't ready from the Gus, the crime dog. Dude, it took days to talk to different people and to explain to them what the hell I was talking about.

And it's like, what do we do? It's like, you need to contact Time Warner, find out which of their customers has this IP address at this time, that's who took everything. The stolen items are there. Then I never heard from them. And then like a week or two later, they're like, they told Jack, like, yeah,

we found the guy, we arrested him and we got all your stuff back. So yeah, he'd been seeing these stuff for weeks or almost like they found tons of stolen stuff. It wasn't just because he had been like, in every neighborhood, sorry Jack. Yeah. Did they use his IP address to catch him? Yes.

Yeah, way to go, so you caught him. Yeah, so I broke a fucking crime ring and explained to APD how to do that. The crime ring was one dude who was a drug addict. Who lived with his parents in the same neighborhood as Jack. Yeah. He was a fucking neighbor. Oh my God.

And I remember because we were out there filming that, and the reason I bring up the Doom immersion was because it was kind of relevant. It's like all this was going on while we were out there filming it. And I had at the time one of those little 3G hotspots. And I remember connecting my laptop to it out there. And like trying to log into our mail server and like quickly write a stupid little script

to scrape the email server log to search for Jack's log ins. And it was like so slow and unreliable. And now it'd be a fucking, bracket to do it for my fucking phone. Yeah. Yeah. It's so stupid how quickly that technology is advanced. Oh man, I gotta say, I was mentioning this to Eric a little bit inside. I was trying to come up with stuff to talk about today

or think about and the type things to think about, but I am just in such a state of almost Zen today. I don't know. I didn't realize. I didn't realize. Rear soccer is glowing. What's that? Your soccer is glowing.

Thanks man. I really appreciate that. It feels like it is. And so it's always nice to be recognized and validated. I didn't anticipate this feeling, but you know, achievement hunter officially ended yesterday. And it's like beating a video game. It's like beating Starfield, I assume I haven't beat it yet.

But it's just like, it just feels like a mission complete. And I just feel so at peace and at ease. And so like, released from worry and responsibility and care. And all of those things that I just, man. It's time for new game plus. I guess I'm doing that with the last place, you know, right? You pressed each door, right? I pressed each and yeah.

Anyway, I just feel so fucking mellow and relaxed. Maybe that's why the coffee tastes so good. Maybe everything's a little better today. Wow. You didn't anticipate feeling like that at all? I guess I just didn't think about it. I was too busy dealing with the reality of it and trying to get a bunch of stuff filmed

and all the things that go around in the background and it's not like that happened in a, like that whole period happened in a vacuum but also happened in a time when faces busier than ever. And I'm also planning a wedding and there's just a lot of shit going on in my life. And so I guess I didn't forecast out

how I was gonna feel in the future. I was kinda just dealing with what I was going through at the moment. And so it's I didn't, I didn't forecast out how I was going to feel in the future. I was kind of just dealing with what I was going through at the moment. And so it's just a night, it's a happy surprise. And I just, so I want to say I'm loving, like you guys a little bit more today. Oh, thanks. I appreciate you a little bit more. I really do anything, but I mean, I'll take it. I'm fine with it. Yeah. Okay. I, uh, just, I'm appreciating life. Yeah. Yeah. Did you feel that way when, uh, when you didn't have to do RTP anymore? It felt like a weight off my shoulder, for sure. Inchurched?

Weight off my shoulders. So, shoulders were good with it. Just because with RTP, it was like this immobile obligation, right? It was like no matter what, this has to happen. And, you know, you help, you produce it for a long time. Like, no matter what curveballs come at you or scheduling mishaps happen or holidays getting the way, it's like you have to figure this out all the time.

There is no getting away from it. And it was, I don't know, after a while, it starts, it's not the right word, but it's the closest word I can think of. Like it's almost like dread. Like this has to happen, you cannot escape it. You know, it's, I think people, I think people are gonna hear Dread and take it in the worst way,

but it's the way that you feel when you have to go to work on, it's Sunday and you're thinking about, oh, fuck, I gotta go to work tomorrow, on Monday. I think that's all it is. It's having a job. Like, that's the kind of thing where it becomes the work and it's the expected thing. And I think Dread is a fine word for it,

and I think you mean it in the least negative way possible. Yeah, for sure. One of the things that we always talk about, where I shouldn't speak for, but one of the things I always talk about that I enjoy is here having the flexibility to do new things and find new things and being locked into doing that for so long, for so so many years kind of hamstrings

your ability to work on other things. So having that removed is like, it's very freeing to be able to commit your time, your mentality, like Jeff you're talking about just like being so focused on so many different things. Like having one thing removed from that plate is great. It's also, it's not like, like you don't realize it.

And maybe it's like this in all professions, but I've worked in a creative depression for so long. It's kind of all I can remember. But whether you're actively thinking about it or not, if you're a part of a production, it's always occupying some idle cycle in your brain. You know, it's like, like some part of my brain, even right now is devoted to so all right, and some of it is devoted to face, and most of it is devoted to this, because I'm in the brain. You know, it's like, like, some part of my brain, even right now, is devoted to so all right, and some of it is devoted to face, and most of it is devoted to this,

because I'm in the moment. And then if this was last week, some of it would still be devoted to achieve more. And worrying about them, and worrying that they're doing okay, even though I wasn't a part of it directly for the last few years, it's still, it's the thing I helped create and birth, and that you care about. And it's the exact same way with the RT podcast. And I think, I think dread isn't, it isn't it isn't the right word, right? Like I always remember, and probably why I was suited for this career, when I was in the army,

I was fortunate enough to get to do a lot of cool stuff as a journalist and photojournalist, but one of the more challenging things I did that I really got a lot out of is the end of my time in Fort Hood before I moved to New Jersey, I was one of the editors on the largest newspaper in the army, the Fort Hood Sentinel. At the time, it may not still be the largest newspaper in the army. Largest weekly, let me just phrase that, because I think army times might be larger. Largest weekly newspaper in the army.

And that's a lot of work. And so you spend all week writing articles and editing and working with stringers and putting the newspaper together doing all the lay out and design everything. And then Wednesday morning you get up and part of the job was to run newspapers around the headquarters building. We were the ones that would put it out.

And then I didn't put it out the other 100, the other 100,000 newspapers. We just did that building for some reason, as part of our job. And it was such a sense of accomplishment because you're proud of it, you put it out, you got a great story, I was the leisure editor, so I would get to do a lot of fun stuff, right?

I got to go to Austin a lot and do a lot of stories on Austin, part of how I fell in love with Austin. And you have this amazing sense of pride, you've put the thing out, and then you look up up and you realize you see a clock and you're like, I'm already behind on the next week's episode. And then you have to turn around and you don't even have a chance to revel in the success and the joy of putting out a good product because you have to immediately jump back in and get to work on the next one. And it's just the cycle never ends. It never ends. The newspaper always comes out.

The podcast always come out. We were at 300, actually there's a 365 day your company and it always has been. Well, it grew. It hasn't always been. It grew to become one and has been one since. And so, there's just a withering effect after years and years and years and years and years of that process, you know? And it can become dread.

And you can dread something that you love. You can dread something that you're invested in that you care about. It's human to just be exhausted from that cycle. And I just think anybody that works in a creative industry like this where you're constantly pumping out content, probably understands intuitively. And maybe there's probably a lot of people out there

that can speak to it more intelligently. But can find a better word than dread for it. But yeah, I get it. And I understand that it definitely seems negative because of the connotations with the word, but I don't feel it in a negative way, and I didn't feel it negatively from you because I get it.

Okay, what do you mean? Yeah, it's just that, I mean, there's just a timer. and I didn't feel it negatively from you because I get it, okay what you mean. Yeah, it's just that, I mean, there's just a timer. And no matter what, that thing's gonna happen. And especially the big problem, the big thing I always hated was that we did the RTP on Monday. So if there were three day weekends or company holidays and we weren't working on Monday, we had to do a pre-tap, then around Thanksgiving, Christmas, around the holiday season, it's like, Monday, we had to do a pre-tap then around Thanksgiving, Christmas around the holiday season.

It's like, oh, then you're doing multiple pre-tapes. It's like, oh, but you can all your hamstrings because you can all do it certain days because other people have to use the space to. And it's like musical chairs trying to figure all this stuff out and, you know, knock out a bunch of them at once. Yeah, that was always the hard part for achievement 102. It's like everybody wants to and deserves to take two weeks off at Christmas and spend time with their family and decompress and have a vacation. But the audience is off work because they're on their vacation and they want to be entertained.

And so, you know, we would go through these hell weeks with Achievement 100 where you would say, all right, between December, actually, between like November, like 15th and December 15th, we have to film all of the Thanksgiving stuff so that it can be a short Thanksgiving break. We have to film all the Christmas stuff. Then we have to film the first week of January stuff because people are gonna be coming back in at different times. And so you're having these weeks where you're filming

the current content plus the next week's content plus the next week's content, and you're doing like six weeks of content or six times the amount of content in the span of like a week or two and then which is awesome Because it allows you to go on vacation But you go on a vacation so fucking depleted because you just went through that But you enjoy it, but you can you can enjoy your drink or you're fucking exhausted tired and then and I was always I get it But it's like and then if you don't do it the audience is like what's my fucking mind crap? We're so tired. And then, and I was always, I get it, but it's like, and then if you don't do it, the audience was like, what's my fucking mind crack? We're so tired. We've been, we have been kind of going through that with stinky dragon right now, because, you know, they're

filming the stinky dragon adventures right now, which is the puppet series. So we had to bank up a bunch of episodes before that leading up to it. And then now that they're in production, filming that, whenever there's free time, we have to tape two episodes at once, like back-to-back recordings, which is, you know, it doesn't sound too bad, like, oh, boo-hoo, you have to play Dindy for six hours in a row, but it can be draining, and especially I feel bad for Micah, who's the writer, because it's hard to get ahead because what happens in the future depends on what happens in the next episode. So it's not like he can just write out

the entire arc and be done with it. It's like, oh, we need to see what they do where they end up. And it's been real like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Also, because I know people here that, and they're like, you're just playing D&D, I would kill to play D&D for six hours. A, that's not what they're doing.

They're filming a production. And I guarantee you, if it was just D&D. I would kill to play D&D for six hours. A, that's not what they're doing. They're filming a production. And I guarantee you, if it was just D&D, it would be very different. Every single person that's making that production, while they're performing and enjoying and creating, they also went the back of their mind, they're going, is this going in a direction that's good? Are we hitting the beats that we need to?

Are we wrapping this up? Am I talking enough? Am I talking too much? Did I cut that person off? Should I give I talking enough? Am I talking too much? Did I cut that personal? Should I give them more room? Should I let them explore? You know, there's a lot going on in your brain at the same time, it's not just playing DVD,

or DVD, D&D, but just take a step back and look at your life. Maybe today you went to the gym for an hour and a half, which is awesome, good job. Now go home and then turn around and go back to the gym for another hour and a half. It's fucking, it is exhausting. Go grocery shopping, come home, put the groceries away and then turn around and go back to the gym for another hour and a half. It's fucking, it is exhausting. Go grocery shopping, come home, put the groceries away

and then turn around and go back to the grocery store to do it again. Anytime you have to double up on something, it wears you out. And I don't want to sound ungrateful or like I'm bitching like boohoo, my life's so hard. It's just gonna take that. Yeah, it's just like that's the reality of it. It's like, it's a lot of work to do all the ones

that's like fits and starts. And then for, like I'm not really involved with stinky dragon adventures. It's even harder for them because they've been bustin' ass filming that series. So fucking cool. And everything I've seen so far looks great. It's amazing what they've been doing.

That's coming out relatively soon. I think that comes out in November, if I remember right, so a little over a month away. And I can't wait to see the final product on that. I, that's my little plug for the other project. I, I will say, it's impossible to predict this stuff, but I will say after spending a little bit of time, Barb gave me a tour of them filming the other day. And, uh, the, the, I think we probably talked about this recently in this podcast, but

the vibe I got in that room, it felt like early RVB days, it felt like early Ruby days, it felt like you walk in and you can tell when somebody's catching lightning in a room, it felt like early RVB days, it felt like early Ruby days, it felt like, you walk in and you can tell when somebody's catching lightning in the bottle, it is electric, you can feel it in the air, it makes your skin stand up, it makes you wanna be a part of it instantly, it makes you not wanna leave that room and be like, oh, you guys need to actually puppet here?

Oh, you guys, oh, and then you realize I'm just in their way, I gotta get out of here, this is their thing, but that feeling is so permeates, what they're doing in that room that I'm just very excited for the audience and for them. It's hard, I'm doing my best to stay out of their way because I am involved with stinky dragon but not necessarily with the puppets

and I'm super excited about it and I like helping, but at the same time I acknowledge I get in the way. So it's like I like to look and I'd be like, hey if you need any help, I'm here, but I have to stay away. Otherwise I'm just gonna slow them down. You also have to, it's a weird position and be like, hey, if you need any help, I'm here, but I have to stay away. Otherwise, I'm just gonna slow them down. You also have to, it's a weird position to be in, I guess it only affects you and I these days.

I'm probably hauling them, but there's a mosquito buzzing on your head by the way. The mosquito, the fucking mosquitoes are back somehow. By the way, they were all over my backyard here today. Is you and I are founders of the company. Don't you quote that? I't you know where you're from? I don't know where you're from. I don't know why they're being here.

Well, you and I are founders of the company. And that comes with a certain weight where people feel like they have to give you some access or respect or whatever at times. And you have to acknowledge that when you walk in a room because you're not always helping in you walk in a room because they don't, you're not always helping in your there. And it's very hard for people to go like,

hey founder, get the fuck out of here, you're in the way. So I always try to keep that in the back of my hand. You don't want to do like the Gabe Nulthin, you just walk in and go from room to room and go, oh what are you guys doing? What are you guys making here? Oh cool, can I help? You know, like, no Gabe, get the,

go run the company, get the fuck out of here. He walked in on us once. I know, that's why I brought it. That valve. You're making it official. Yeah, he specifically why I brought that up. Really? What were you guys working on?

He just wandering around. Left for dead TV commercial. The time I'm thinking of was actually earlier than that. We were there for a meeting and he just wandered it. He wasn't involved in the meeting. Yeah. And then he was like, hey, what's going on here? What's the meeting about?

Oh, okay. I can't imagine walking around seeing a meeting and going, walking in and going, what's this meeting? Well, what are we, what are we talking about? Yeah, that's so, what are we talking about? I don't think I was there for the, the Leafford Ed commercial. Yeah.

I spent, I went up there for the portal to commercial. That's, so I spent a lot of time up there doing that one. How many things did you guys do with Valve? Those two. I think those two, I think that was it. We had a real good relationship with Valve and I feel like we worked with them,

we worked with them on some stuff that I don't know if it ever came out. That don't feel comfortable talking about. Yeah, yeah. Interim, I didn't know that. That's interesting. And I say, we, it was more Bernie and Matt on that thing. But, yeah, we did some like consulting work with them a little bit.

And I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find a developer we didn't work with pretty closely there for a while, especially when we were doing, especially when we were in that unique period where we were the only people on Earth who knew how to film video games. And so every ad agency in the world wanted to work with us. They had a, so while we worked with them for several years over different, with different projects,

and when they moved from their first office to the other one, that's the one where we filmed a portal commercial, I thought they had a really cool setup there where all the desks were self-contained. Like the computer, the monitor, everything was attached to the desk. The only thing that came out from the desk to the ground was like a power cord and... Like, ether and network cable. Yeah.

So it's like, if you wanted to, you could just like unplug your computer and roll it over to a different part of the building and work on whatever project they were working on. So it's like, it was very a very mobile agile workforce. It was like you pick the things you want to work on and you work on that, which I thought was really cool. Yeah, but that might, it seems tough from a resource perspective you're trying to work on something

and get something done and then everyone rolls away from you. You're like, oh great. Was there office cool? What do I smell? Oh, I do. Yeah, it was really nice. I mean, I remember You're like, oh great. Is there office cool? What do I smell? I don't like it. Yeah, it was really nice. I mean, I remember they had like, at the time, it's been, God, the last time I was there

was when Portal 2 came out, just to put it in perspective, right? So I'm sure things are different now. At the time. It was like a convenient store set up in the office, where like, but that was just like their snack room. It's like, oh, this looks like I just walked into a 7-11, but you just take whatever you want and just leave. And go back to your desk.

But people were so dedicated, so working so many long hours, so hard on different things. But it was an interesting place just because out of all, we've been, like Jeff said, we've been to many different developers all over the place and all over the world. That was the one developer who, when we showed up to work on projects, gave us a key card for the building.

We don't have to escort you around. We don't have to babysit you. Here's access to the building 24 hours a day. Come and work whenever you want. Do whatever you need to do. And when you're done just leave. Return these key cards. Even Bungie, who we knew better than clearly, we knew better than any other developer

and who we had a really beautiful relationship with. And I cannot say enough good things about the people that worked at Bungie and then 3, 4, 3, like genuinely wonderful people. But trying to get into Bungie was like fucking for it, nox. And it's like, I've been here 108 times and it's still, you got the same protocol every time. The security guard always played a game

where it wasn't a game actually. It was not a game. No matter how many times he met you or no matter how many times I saw you, he was seeing you for the first time. Every time you showed up. Yeah. Even if you'd go to lunch and come back.

Yeah, I really, I have no idea who you are. It was like, okay, go in, keep your eyes on the floor, turn right, go straight, first office on the right. That's all you're allowed to go to, that's all you're allowed to do. And they would be like, okay, go in, keep your eyes on the floor, turn right, go straight, first office on the right. That's all you're allowed to go to if that's all you're allowed to. And they would be like, like I remember when they were showing Bernie and I reach for the first time when we, like I saw Bernie

kind of have the idea to continue RVB in that room in that moment, and that which was a really cool day. Even then, they put us in this little commentary room with a Xbox and a TV and early build, and they said, you don us in this little commentary room with an Xbox and a TV and an early build and they said, you don't leave this room. You don't leave this room. We're like, I want to have a good bathroom and they're like, we'll come get you.

I get it and it had to be that way. I don't begrudge it. It was a funny part of it. Definitely a different time kind of thing too. Especially when you're talking about the convenience store and all that stuff. It's just, it's not that long ago, but man, it feels like a lifetime ago, like the way that people worked in offices

and the way that people, we're working long hours and we have to be at this thing. So here's a ping pong table? Yeah, no apps do every office. That's how Razor was. And that's just by virtue of like, you're here for a long time. sorry, like here's Doritos. And you go, okay, but now it's like,

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Hey, have you gotten to the Simpsons episode where Bart ends up working for that tech company? And the only thing I remember about it is it's the similar kind of vibe where they turn the communal spaces into playgrounds to trick you into staying 17 hours a day. And they just had company stock like on toilet paper rolls and a part of the animation company. just have some more stock, take it.

It was when they were making Angry Dad. That's right, into a web series. Yeah, yeah. What season is that? That's like season, I wanna say that's like season 20, if I remember right, but I could be wrong. I'm up to season 26,

I'm iry watch right now. It's a whole new world. They definitely nailed it in that episode. How are you liking season 26? It's a it's a lot of stuff that I don't remember. I might be seeing for the first time. Yeah. And a lot of weird episodes.

I'm the episode I watched this morning. Homer and some of the people form a cover band in a Pooz there lead singer. Did you, do you laugh every episode you watch? There's at least one or two jokes. That's a nice thing about the sentence. You will smile or chuckle at least once every episode. Have you watched a new Futurama?

No, I haven't. I watched the first episode. I just watched the Simpsons Futurama crossover episode from season 26 yesterday. It's cute. It's cute and I enjoy it. And I thought it was like the way they kick it off is kind of cool.

But then I'm a big fan of graining and future I'm a and everything that he's done. But even when I was watching, I was like, it's good, it's cool, but I don't know if I, you know, I don't know. I don't know that I'll continue it. I probably will. But that show has been canceled and come back.

What like it's just had so many lives and deaths. It's it's been kind of a bit of a roller coaster. And then every time they end it, they end it more poignantly than the last time. And like that's a good way to stop it. And then then it comes back. I was cool. It's like on the spot. Yeah.

I want to talk about that golden Gus here in a second. But I feel like the same thing happened with family guy and people don't remember that Yeah, someone at the office was talking about family guy the other day. I was like, oh dude. Yeah, they got canceled And do you remember why they came back DVD sales really that is why they came back They say they had sold like a million and a half DVDs They put it on adult swim and the DVDs were like you couldn't keep them in the fucking 100% that show came back from the dead purely because of physical media I feel like a lot of people have forgotten that that show went away and then

for a while and they came back and because Seth MacFarland didn't get on that flight I forgot about that so on the spots back I did the first new episode of the return of on the spot last week and the golden Gus went missing people keep asking me if I have it as if I stole it and have it at home and I'm not telling anyone, I don't want it. I'm like, I didn't take it. I have, yeah.

You've got the real Gus. I've got the real one, 24 hours a day. You've got, and, you've got the aluminum Gus, or whatever you are. So they had to make a new version of the Golden Gus trophy, but we don't have the technology or the facilities to do that kind of capture and printing. So that's what you think.

Tyler, like took a bunch of photos of me with his phone and then 3D printed a replacement and painted it. And it was unveiled in that first episode. And I was a little insulted. What do you mean that's you? That's like a do you have a photo of the back to twin? No, I don't know It's butt is a rectangle We had to stand up. I don't really look like that. Do I?

Yeah, I'm the spots back for like four episodes I think I don't know if you're sure It was it was fun to be back to some new games. I was on a team with Carrie. Good old dragonface. I love Carrie. Yeah, I don't get to do as much for them. Same. I get so happy when I see him, but I rarely, rarely see him. Yeah, so anyway, go check that out too. That's back. That's my, the other thing I was on that I'm promoting.

Yeah, it's funny. We were, you were talking earlier about about going up to Seavalf, and it got me thinking about just trips that we would take, and less trips that we would take, but more like eras of trips. That was definitely a period of time when it felt like we were in Seattle all the time. All the time.

Constantly. And then there was a period, and I was thinking, one of their eras do we have. I feel like there was a, and I guess our eras can be different, because we were doing stuff independently of each other. You know, we were like, you handle this, I'll handle this. But I had a, I think the earliest era was New York.

I felt like we were in New York four times a year, five times a year, for a couple of years there. And then there was the Portland era, right? We were in Portland all the time. There was the Seattle era. There was a San Francisco era. It was very fleeting. Where? San Francisco. Less fleeting for me. I was in San Francisco. I had a couple a San Francisco era. That was very fleeting. Where? San Francisco.

Less fleeting for me. I was in San Francisco. I had a couple of San Francisco's. Okay. Because I worked with kind of funny a lot too for a second time period. And then that was back when Achieve Mohunter was running, was producing content for Ubisoft and for their YouTube channel. And so I was up there.

So there was a period where, like I went to, I went to San Francisco maybe like eight times a year, for like two years there. And then I think, I feel like there times a year for two years there. And then I think there was a Florida era, right? Where we were doing conventions, but also you were going down there to Tibberon, to do work on commercials and stuff. And then I guess there was an LA era before Funhouse when we were doing commercial work there.

Oh yeah, right? Did we didn't have any other, there were no other spots that we were... No, that's about it. That's about it. Yeah, did you ever go to The YouTube headquarters? Yes the one wait Do you mean the one that had the in the big airplane hanger that had the no that's the creator space out in LA I was like about like their headquarters up in the Bay Area like South of San Francisco now It's like wait's by the San Francisco airport. I don't know what city it is. No, but I think I saw Vince Vaughan movie

that took place there. Oh, isn't that Google? Is that Google? Is that Google? Yeah, so yeah, I guess that's probably it. That's probably the same thing. I mean, yes, but no, it's a different building. I went there once to do like a presentation

at the YouTube headquarters. And the reason I bring it up is we're talking about all these trips and all the things you've seen. I remember I walked in and you check in at the front desk and they were like, okay, just have a seat over there and whoever you're here to meet will come out and see you here in a minute. I remember I sat down and I looked to my left

and there was a server rack, like a server cage. And I thought, that's weird, I wonder why that's out here. So I stood up and walked over to it and it had a little plaque on it. It was like, this thought, that's weird, I wonder why that's out here. So I like I stood up and walked over to it and it had like a little plaque on it. It was like, this was the first YouTube server, you know, booted up on, you know, this date in 2004, whenever it was like, man, that's really, that's really weird and really cool.

That's like, oh, that's where it started right there. Yeah, like that piece of hardware, I don't know if they still have it in the lobby, but it was just a cool bit of internet history to be able to see in person. What do you think the coolest building or place you visited is? For commercial work for all this stuff, like when we were doing, like is it Bungie, is it Microsoft, is it Valve, is it?

I think my answer, and I've mentioned it before, it's going to be prologue out in Venice. Not because the building was cool, but because even before Rooster Feet, I was such a fan of, I've been a video game fan, but I was such a fan of all the film work that Prologue did. I was admired Kyle Cooper and all the work that they put out. So it was really cool for me to go there and to be in that building.

What about you? It was definitely cool for me to go there and like, to be in that building. What about you? It was definitely a surreal experience to, I remember the day we got there. The first thing we got there, when we signed a bunch of NDAs and stuff and we walked in and they were really, they hit us really hard about like, keep your fucking mouth shut about what's going on in here.

And just getting to see, that's a, I don't know, I'm not gonna say any, I mean, it was 10 years, 15 years ago, I still don't wanna say it, but it's like, oh, that's a major I don't know, I'm not gonna say idiot. I mean, even when it was 10 years ago, I still don't wanna say it. But it's like, oh, that's a major video game company's thing there and that's a major comic book movie thing going on over there and like, you're just sitting in the middle

of it and you're watching all the stuff that you love being worked on around you. And you're like, I'm doing some, I'm, like I'm a peer at the moment. That's fun, It was fucking wild. What about you? Do you have a? I don't know man.

Why didn't Kennedy was really cool. That was really cool. It's a really beautiful building and it's a really cool vibe. I liked that a lot. Less the people, more the building. There were some great people there. There were some great people there. I think I really liked Lost Planet.

Yeah. I don't know. We can I really liked Lost Planet. Yeah. We can say that, right? Yeah. I don't know why we couldn't. It was a finishing house. We would work at and Venice. Santa Monica.

Santa Monica, sorry. I really liked those people. I really liked that building. I really liked what we were making there. Didn't like one or two dudes that we were working with. Yeah, there's some difficult people. But that was where I got into a fucking screaming match with a yelling match with one of the creatives there

because he had unreal expectations of what a video game could do at that time. But I really liked that place. There was that cool bar across the street that we would go through. The pirate bar? Yeah, that was fun times. Yeah, we spent a lot of time there. That's definitely like

LA era. We spent a lot of fucking time there. Like, that's when I really got to know the layout of LA. Like, I know where to go and where things are in relation to each other. That's where you saw that dude get hit by car. Yes, it was a woman, but yes, the lady hit by car. Yeah, we're riding in front of the Viceroy, which was a hot spot at the time. I remember there was a little breakfast place we would go to because they had crock-messor that you really liked, was that it? I think you were on your way to that spot when it happened. Oh, I'm trying to, I can't remember.

That's, hmm. I'm trying, it sounds vaguely familiar. That doesn't sound like the dish, though. Okay. I'm trying to think what it is. It was something like that. Yeah, it was a, it sounds vaguely familiar. That doesn't sound like the dish though. Okay, I think what it is. It was something like that. Yeah, it's like right there, beautiful area, super, super expensive, I'm sure. I loved, and probably in the moment hated,

but looking back on it, I loved all of that work we did, all of that travel that was really exciting. It was really fun to get to experience it with you, and it felt very unique, and I felt like we were doing stuff that most people didn't get to do. And that was awesome. But I can't imagine taking one of those trips again.

Here's the thing that bugs me, or that stays in my mind about it, right? Like it was great. I felt like we were doing good work. All of that works at Pembro. It's all gone. Yeah. Like there was no lasting impact.

It was like bust your ass, make this commercial, which is super important for the next month. And then- Super important to somebody else, too. And then it's gone. Like sometimes I'll think about a commercial I worked on and I'll try to look up, like I wanna see it. Like, oh, what was that, and I'll look at,

try to look for on YouTube? It's not there. There's no record of that work ever having been done. Like we remember it, we busted our ass on it for someone else and it's forgotten. Yeah. Just gone. It's just like lost in a wash of everything else. Yeah, that was always the trade-off, right?

It's like it's good money, good short-term money, and it's good connections, and it's good relationship building, but we work on that, when we're working on that, we're not working on our own internal IP. And that was always the struggle to find. And I am glad that eventually we got to a point where we stopped doing all that other stuff just to focus on our stuff.

Yeah. And I think, I, I, I mean, like I thought that other stuff was more important than it was. Like looking back now, it was the right call to ditch all of that. Yeah, but it was important. But we needed it. Yeah, we needed it. We needed it for a lot of reasons. And I, I, I, I totally agree with you, and that was Bernie's rub, the whole time, as we should be working on an IP, and he was right. But so much good stuff came out of that, and it was so necessary that I don't think

we could have gotten to the point where we were, where we are the company we are right now, if we hadn't done that and gone through that. And we also learned a lot. We learned a lot of shit that applied to what we would do later that we wouldn't have learned on our own probably. You know what I mean?

Like we were forced into, like, somebody gives you a job, you don't know if you can do it, you got to figure out how to do it. Right. Fucking, that's how we learn and grow. Do you remember, like, it's funny to think about now, but technology was so primitive at the time. Do you remember that piece of equipment we would have to carry with us,

just in case they didn't have capture equipment? It was an aja, I don't know how you say it. Oh yeah. It was like the silver box that was maybe the size of this table with a handle up on it and it had like every possible video input and output on it. So you could, no matter what, no matter what equipment

was there when you showed up wherever you were going, you could make sure that you were able to capture and do and do whatever you needed to do how often did we use it? Very rarely. Yeah, it was it was insurance right. Yeah, because it's because we did show up places sometimes I like yeah, we don't have anything. What do you think happened at that piece of equipment? You think it's in a warehouse like in a storage unit somewhere. It's probably yeah, so it's over and Like one of the like a stage two or something we'll get through stage two like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yeah, exactly what I'm thinking. And it's just like in a box somewhere.

It's in the down open to the future box. We're getting close to time, but I do want to talk about the coffee at LT Grey, which we sort of briefly mentioned at the top. The coffee's so good. Fucking phenomenal cup of coffee. Here's the deal. Uh-huh. When I wait something, it means nothing.

Yeah. Because I'm a very, this is the best thing or the worst thing. Oh, yeah. I'm a man of extremes. But I am genuine when I say, this is the best cup of coffee I've ever had in my life. It is unreal. So better than Destiny though, better than- Better than Desnido.

Wow. And sweet. Better than all gimmicks. Better than the place I can't remember on next to Coral Snake. Fleet, freewheeling. Freewheeling. It is- This is my number one cup of coffee in Austin.

Wow. I wouldn't put it that high. Meaning they're my way. I think it's excellent. I don't think it beats any of those other places. For a black iced coffee, you will not get a better black iced coffee. For me, this is like, it's really good, really smooth, super easy to drink. This is like eight, eight and a half. It's excellent. It's, I still think this new though and some of the other places are better, but that's not a knock on this place just because those places

are like the best in my mind. Put this at like a nine, like easy nine. This is a, I got it. But the thing I'm always afraid of when I get the drip coffee or just coffee in general from places like this, is that they pour it and it's ripping hot and you can't drink it and you have to wait. This was a good temperature when I got it and it didn't affect the flavor.

The sort of like fruity floral sort of flavors, they're through like the whole cup. I'm really impressed with the taste. I'm really impressed with like the quality of the coffee. You can tell that this is a roastery because they, man, they give a fuck about this. It is really good. It's really good. If you're in Austin, it's definitely like a place to this. It is really good. It's really good. If you're in Austin, it's definitely like a place to this.

I mean, I have to come back and buy beans sometimes. If iced black coffee is your jam, I can't speak to the iced Americano, I can't speak to the drip. But if you just like... It's like... I was respecting his drip. He looks great.

He's all San Diegoed out to... Yeah, big time. Got your SDSU hammer on his head? Yeah. If you just like black iced coffee, I'm telling you, take my word for it, this is better than those other places. I'm going to have to come back. And they're all phenomenal.

I'm going to have to come back and get it. I'm going to come back and get the beats. I'm not going to buy them now. I have plenty of beats. My buddy from nearby just roasted another Rwandan that I'm like super high on right now. When I'm done with that, I'm coming buy them now, I have plenty of meat. My buddy from nearby just roasted another Rwandan that I'm like super high on right now. When I'm done with that, I'm coming back here, I'm getting two bags

and a nice coffee. That is, I'm so excited. They got big bags too. Yeah, they do. They have some good sized stuff. Usually, I mean, I'm gonna have to break my streak of really only buying beans from barrets to come over to LT Grey.

Great name. Great logo. I would get, this is the kind of little tiger I would definitely get tattooed on. Absolutely. This is a tattoo tiger right here. I like a derpy tiger from Easy Tiger. Is it?

Yeah. This one's like mean and tough. And the one from Easy Tiger goes, this guy would kick the shit out of the Easy Tiger tiger. The thing is like, hey man, thank you. Yeah, this is a really, I would really recommend this. I'm so excited to see. Good vibe.

If we keep the street going too, because fuck, this is a good cup of coffee. People here are cool. It's not too crowded. I mean, it's a Monday morning, so whatever, but there are places to sit. We're next to a little, it's as kitty goes to Texas and it looks like that's a salon,

maybe in that back corner over there, which is very cool and a little open house Austin thing, which looks like a realtor. And it's a great little spot. It's just a cool little tucked away spot, like right off 12th of us. – Kylina. – Unassuming.

– Yeah. – Very relaxing. – Yep. The breeze going on, then. – Yeah, it's nice. – It's nice. You know, no Gavin on this episode, but I had a good time. So let's get into a little bit of anarchy me anything.

Let's get a question here. Mugs out. Oh yeah, that's right. The mug is out now. The mug is available. We sold quite a few of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We did, we did, we did,

the guys did a really good job of buying the mug. store.rusty.com. Yep. If you have it, yeah. Thank you for supporting this podcast. Yeah, thank you. Because it's this or a couple of t-shirts. We're not really pushing.

We're not emerging. We're not emerging. No, it's, I mean, it's really, hopefully, you know what, kind of peak behind the curtain, it's been like, oh, you know, what else do you guys want to do? Is it other merch you guys want to do? You know, just seeing like, what, if there's anything that we want, feel like the mug, feel like the shirts are good or whatever. We're kind of in talks with some people right now where we might get some beans, where we

might do some coffee, some, in, in, in, in, and, and, and, and, which I'm very excited about. That's the thing with, with productions that, at least I can't speak for guys, but productions that I'm very excited about. That's the thing with productions that at least, I can't speak for Gus, but productions that I'm a part of, I love merch. I love making merch, I love selling merch. Yeah, if you've checked out, I'm like a fuckface, you can be down there.

I'm a bit of a carnival bar. What if my fridge was a magnet, but I love making merch that makes sense to the product and the production, right? I want a manufacturing. I hate logo slaps on stuff. I can't the production, right? I want to make a picture. I don't, I hate logo slaps on stuff. Yeah. I can't stand it.

I don't want to do that. And I want the merch to be unique and interesting and it to be of and for, and speak about the content that we're making. And that's why we don't want to do stuff that doesn't make sense for this podcast, which is why you get a coffee cup, maybe a t-shirt, hopefully some beans.

I don't know what else we can do. Yeah, I don't know. If you guys have ideas, let us know. But what kind of stuff would you wanna see, but I mean, coffee brewing alarm clock. So that's like the alarm goes off and it makes the coffee for you. It's like it heats the water,

the dark brown type, and then it's kind of a big adventure. You get woken up by the smell of coffee. It doesn't make a sound or anything. It just boosts the coffee It doesn't make it. It's an alarm clock that doesn't make a sound. It just brews the coffee It's just coffee maker with a timer Watch that that Did you guys watch that PV movie that came out of now? No, I was like the first 15 minutes. It was cute. I'm sure I was fine.

Yeah. I don't want to go through it through the whole thing, but yeah. Anarchy question. This is from Geoza. I hope I said that right. Dead. He doesn't really matter. Paul Rubens.

Super dead. Yep. F1 has brought me, there's a fly and a mosquito. They were bothering me. I'm glad to move to you. Thanks man. F1 has brought me to Austin from the UK. And I love the city, but even I've noticed the change

over the years and the race getting really busy. Be curious to know your opinions of F1 and if you've been, and then also any recommendations for meat and vegan food. I don't know why you'd specify meat. We have a mixed group, so, but anyway, the place that has both, yeah. So what do you think, F1 in Austin? I'm sure you guys have seen it grow for a really long time and you've been.

Yeah, I've been to two, I'm not gonna go this year, but I went to the two previous years. It is fantastic, it's awesome. I love F1, I love that Austin has Coda and that it's going so well. I don't know if it still is, but last year, it was the largest, I think it was the largest attendance of an F1 ever.

Wow. I think that might have been beaten since then, but like, it's been great. It's great to see what it's done for the city. I discovered, I think like most Americans, I discovered F1 through Drive to Survived or the pandemic when they were all desperate to find something to do or watch.

And I have been a fan ever since. I will say the problem I have with F1 these days is that when I got into it, it was Max or Stappin trying to catch up with the unstoppable Lewis Hamilton. And that was fun to watch that battle. Now it's flipped and the extra staff and so far ahead of everybody else that it's incredibly fucking boring.

It really is, I used to get a monster. I used to get up every Sunday morning at like, sit five or six or whatever the gate would come on. And then I would watch it in bed and it'd be the best way to start a day. And now I just read about who won. And if there's a crash, I'll go look at it. Just because it's not competitive.

I'm excited to Jordan swears about it. He'll just give me the rundown. Yeah. It's a great idea. The big fan of F1, big fan of Austin having such a unique and awesome global event. I think that it's helped open the world up to the charm of Austin, Texas, which was not a global destination

before Canada. And probably isn't a global destination now, but it's gotten closer. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, people come for, people come for fun, people come for MotoGP, people come for, I've never, I've never been, but like I'm really glad that it's here. I, when they announced it, when they built it, I thought it was a very strange location, because there was no infrastructure out there. Like the first couple of years, getting, getting, getting tuned from the track, like it was a very strange location because there was no infrastructure out there.

Like the first couple of years getting- Donate, they're still not. Yeah, getting tuned from the track. Like it was like a dirt road. I think they've expanded it a bit, but it's, yeah, I've been out there for other things, not for an F1 race, but it's, you know, there's really, like there's no hotels out there.

Yeah, there's nothing out there. It was a- You have to drive to get there. It was a nightmare to get in and out of last year. I mean, really, really bad. People were taking like two and three hours and traffic to get there. I heard not too long, and that was because

it was heavy construction, and they weren't able to get even close to finishing it before F1 last year. I heard that not too long after that, there was a Rolling Stones concert that was worse. Yep. Way worse. Something like a large percentage of the people that bought tickets couldn't get there.

Wow. And just had to turn around and go home because it was such a cluster of fuck. Uh, F1 is really interesting. It's weird that it's an Austin. Like it's cool. Now it used to be the only American race. Now they have Miami and they have Vegas that they are, um, that they're going to be doing soon.

I was looking at Vegas, but it's too fucking expensive. I mean, last time we went to Vegas, it was looking at Vegas, but it's too fucking expensive. I mean, last time we went to Vegas, it was like the construction on the strip is so fucking outrageous. Cut down all the trees. Yeah, did you hear that somebody died? They've been pushing construction so hard.

Somebody like fell off a building and died. Yeah, it's been really bad. And that's sort of how it felt when we were there. I will say I have friends who work for a company who they are a F1 competitor. And me and Jordan Swerves were lucky enough to go. And we were in the luxury suite at the start and finish line when we went.

And it was free champagne the whole time and food and walking around in this whole, it was really incredible and really cool. And then I left and I went, the wealth disparity that we just participated in is so outrageous. The team of servers in this suite travel the world for this F1 team

because the people who go to these races expect that caliber of service. And so if you work as a server for like this team, you are travel as or by John and all of these places to just serve in the suite for the F1 races. It was unreal. I will never go back to a F1 race unless that is the quality. I started too high. I can't. It's all down the old age.

You can't. It's like flying over everything and like a hot air balloon and then being told, okay, well now we're done. Get in the Honda cord and drive through. And you go, I'm not doing that. Put me back in the hot air balloon

and then go, that was a one time deal. That's it, so I'm never going back, I don't think. It was really crazy. Funnest hell, loudest hell, really, really loud. But it is nothing but engineers building airplanes that stay on the ground. Crazy. Jet, jet propulsion style vehicles

that are not meant to take off. I grew up, my stepdad when I was a kid, the fucking by the way, not my, not my, the guy I consider my father, Larry, who is dead, rest his soul, but the guy before him is a piece of shit. He was a drag racer. And so I spent most of my childhood

going to let the Gator Nationals and traveling around going to drag races. And so I'm most of my childhood going to let the Gator Nationals and traveling around going to drag races. And so I'm very well versed in that style of racing and I will say there's nothing compares to F1. Nope. Like B in the stands, it's like it's unreal. I've seen videos of like people set up a static camera at a racetrack and film like all different kinds of races.

Yeah. And then compare it to like the speed of F1 cars going by. And it's just like, it's unreal how what another level F1 is on. You feel it in your bones in the most satisfying way. It is, that being said, it is so goddamn expensive to get a decent seat where you get, because it's even in October when it happens in Austin,

it's still a fucking, at least 96 degrees today is a high. Like it's gonna be in the 90s, and you're just sitting in silver pletures and just baking. I think everyone's three weeks from this past weekend, like we're coming up on it. Yeah, it's ACL this weekend next weekend, and then it'll be that. And I think less people are,

well, I mean, they're not gonna have trouble selling out, but they hit me up, you know, because I bought tickets two years in a row, and I was like, I'm taking this year off, and they're like up, you know, cause I bought tickets to years in a row and I was like, I'm taking this year off and they're like, cool man, cool. And then they, they pounded me for months after that. So, I think it'll be less local,

but it is, it's a global thing. So, there's what it is. Great, hey, good episode. There's a great vegan restaurant when it's a real fast. Okay. Nissy vegan Tex-Mex, their trailer not too far from here, but they're also a brick and mortar up off by

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