ANMA - Our Favorite Eras

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

Good morning, Gus! A bit of a mix em up this week as we take a break from long walks and have a seat for some coffee and a pastry at Gati Ice Cream on Holly st. There’s maybe a little walking but really we’re looking back because we don’t know if there’s a second season. It all comes to a head next week. Gustavo and Geoff also talk about Private equity, Pepsi, Greenberg’s turkey, Which office we liked, and DICE. Find out if we’re doing another season next week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm glad we started rolling right before we all took a bite of a pastry. You know, we don't have to start recording or this doesn't have to be in. No, it's in. This is totally in. Yeah, yeah. He edits it. This is in. Slowly.

At a breakneck pace. Guess what? I'm in the middle of a bunch of rendering shit again. I haven't brought it up, but yeah, I'm knee deep in it. You guys should come back here sometime. Earlier in the day when they have the Red Balls in, they're like the Fogo Red Balls. I was wondering, they had like a Brazilian name on the label.

It's like Brazilian, but it's Thai ice cream too. It's all coconut based ice cream. It's really good. So this is Gatti, G-A-T-I, not to be confused with Mr. Gattis, which is some of the worst pizza possible. Well, that's not what Nick says. Exactly. That's an excellent point you raise.

People that are like from here or from the area or whatever are such like, they're Gattis apologists. Is it because it's a thing that you have when you're a kid? I guess. It's like a worse version of Whataburger. Cause Whataburger's at least decent. Interesting. What?

But everyone who's from here defends it. People not from here hate it. Gattie's is just objectively bad. Even if you're from here, you should not defend it. You should not like it. Totally agree. I think people like it cause they like buffet pizza. And usually you can go eat like a

Like an absolute monster for six dollars He's thinking about buffet pizza. I upset him so much with my water burger comment Too much glaze on my throat Look at me wrong. I love what a burger, but I acknowledge I Gotta say man. I hate to say it, but Water Burger has gone downhill in the last couple years. You think so? I really do. I went there the other day and we waited in line

for like 18 minutes and they still got our order wrong. I just order in the app all the time. It just saves the trouble and I've never had a problem with it and I will say. I'm just sick of downloading the fucking app every time I wanna do anything. I just wanna go, I got this, I bitched about this in So Alright

with McDonald's the other day. People were like, just use the app. I don't wanna use the app. I just wanna go talk to a person and use my lips to their ears. Okay, boomer. That's fine, call me a boomer because I wanna order it to a person's face. I will use the app every time.

You know why? Because the person's gonna get it wrong. Introducing another human into the element is like, they're gonna get it wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yes, yes, yes! They're still gonna get it wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yes, yes, yes. It's still, they're still gonna get it wrong because I have the Taco Bell app

because my wife loves Taco Bell and I would say 40% of the time we order through the Taco Bell app, they still get it wrong. Your wife loves Taco Bell? She loves Taco Bell. Really? Yeah, that's her thing.

Huh. No potatoes. Mm. Yeah, yeah, no potatoes. I mean, the potato soft taco is probably the best thing at Taco Bell, but yeah, sure. She wouldn't know. Well, I will say potatoes. I mean, the potato soft taco is probably the best thing at Taco Bell, but- She wouldn't know. I will tell you, so I think, what's like,

I think a company based on Chicago acquired Whataburger probably like five or six years ago now. Oh, it's some private equity bullshit. Yeah, but for me personally, I've not noticed a decrease. I always order the same thing at Whataburger. I've noticed it's been the same for me anyway, but they've really kind of changed their marketing a bit. It's got a lot more polish now.

And I think their merchandising is way better. Oh, stepped up their game for sure. They have that Water Burger cooler. That's painted like an old Water Burger A-frame that I think is like such a great idea. I think that that's an across the board thing where you have to be, we were talking about branding for places that are opening.

We, so originally we were going to go to a place called Rockman. I was against it. The line was out the door. We didn't have the milk foam blaster. We weren't ready for it. It was all for every week he's been doing this. I saved that one. That was that workshop that one last night. Thanks man. He's writing it down and sellingester. He's like talking to the dog. Does this one land?

Leaf Man? Rockman, you were saying, is a place where it's like you go to the website and it's like, wow, this branding is like so on point. They're not even fucking open yet. Like it's crazy. I heard about it. And so I went to their website and looked at it.

It was insanely polished. They had like a huge merch suite. The merch looked like awesome. And I was like, holy shit, how's this place been open for this long? And it was literally the day they opened. We were talking about how important strong branding is from the jump.

And they were like, I did some research and there's like a company that does that for them. And they've done that, but they do a bunch of like boutique, a little restaurant, restaurant launch events and shit. Mm hmm. But we couldn't go there today. No, it was a crazy line. The line was out the door.

But what I'm, what I'm driving at is all of these places, no matter sort of like the class of restaurant or whatever, they have upped their merch game and their branding game in like a crazy way. Have you seen the Taco Bell decades menu? No. They're bringing back-

Emily, Emily probably has. They're bringing back one item from every decade of Taco Bell and the branding for it reflects the decade that it's back from. That's a great idea. So the one from the 90s is like the beef Gordita or whatever. And it's got the, remember the Taco Bell dog

with like the, he had like the, like the little like red star hat when he was like a Che Guevara kind of thing or whatever. And it's got the, remember the Taco Bell dog with like the, he had like the, like the little like red star hat when he was like a Che Guevara kind of thing or whatever. It's that thing. The thing that they're doing with the decades menu, there's a launch where you can also get hoodies that reflect the different decades of Taco Bell. There's like five of them or whatever.

And I just, I look at that and these cups that they're doing and everything. And you're like, they know what it, the brand is so strong that you can throw, Hey, remember this from the seventies, put it on shirt. You make it limited edition. Exactly. You can have people go crash your website.

Tony Simonetta is going to go insane for Taco Bell decades hoodies. Absolutely. I remember, I don't think I've told this story before. It's a very short story, but we had, we were back when we worked at the call center. We had this old lady call up once cause she was very upset because on her Windows 95 computer,

there was an animation of the Taco Bell dog humping like an enchilada, like a burrito. It was a, a Taco Bell dog was humping a burrito and she could not get it to go away and we had to try to help her Figure out what was going I think was a virus or something like there was something wrong with her system And it just made the Taco Bell dog show up and hump a burrito and she was like practically in tears so upset It was happening on her computer So now whenever I think of the Taco Bell dog, that's all I think about is that old lady in Oklahoma somewhere whose computer was befouled by the Taco Bell Doc.

That's so awesome. So, I'd like to put it on record, by the way, that I am going to continue to eat at Waterburger. Nothing will make me stop. I'm just going to complain about it. Yeah, that's totally fine. I'm still going to eat at Waterburger. Don't get me wrong. The place that's gone downhill for me,

and I think that you guys won't agree because how often are you going anyway, Wendy's over like the last two years has fallen off in a way where you're just like, I don't even know if I wanna, like I don't go. I never liked Wendy's. Wendy's was like, if I could get that chicken sandwich and just like, oh man, I'm cooking on this thing, I love it.

Easy meal, whatever. The fries suck. Your chicken isn't as good. Everything's just sort of like deteriorated. I think a lot of it probably has to do with private equity moving into like a lot of these spaces, which is, I mean, across the board. Yeah. I do have a local example.

Okay. I used to fucking love Flyrite Chicken. I was just talking about Flyrite the other day. I don't go anymore. It was my favorite place. I loved it more than any burger restaurant in Austin. There was one on Burnet, there was one over, not too far from here, on Seventh Street.

It was almost on par with Chick-fil-A. Yeah, so good. And it was like, oh, I don't wanna go to Chick-fil-A, but I'm gonna go there. If you're not in Austin, it's a local drive-through chicken place. They sell fried chicken sandwiches. They have one called a Cowboy.

I love that Cowboy was it. It's just jalapenos, it's pepper jack cheese and bacon. And it's just the sauce and it's amazing. And they have the best tater tots in Austin. Really good. And then like fancy, like main root soda. And then one day I went there and I noticed that they had like Pepsi products.

And I thought, oh, that's strange. They switched. And then I got home and my burger didn't taste the same. I mean, I cheated my chicken. Chicken sandwich, yeah. And then I thought, oh, burger didn't taste the same. I might get my chicken sandwich. Yeah. And then, uh, I thought I was a little off this time. And then I went a couple more times and then I realized they're under new, they sold or under new ownership and they changed their supply line.

And it tastes like shit. Yeah. If, if you're upset about anything that you've enjoyed not being as good as it used to be, you can bring, you can probably blame, uh, private equity for coming in, buying this thing, cutting costs, taking the money and running. Like just leaving these places like defunct and bankrupt. So let's make a product that's 60% is good

for 20% of the price or 10% of the cost. Exactly. Is that the price goes up. Yeah. And that's, I mean, you look at that. People blame people for not eating out or whatever. Like you see economists, people aren't eating out the way they used to

or whatever. And that's why red lobster is going under and all this stuff. It's just private equity. Well, red lobster got fucking ramrod hard. Yeah, that was so stupid. But it's true. It's A, yes, it's more expensive,

but it's not just that it's more expensive. It's the quality has gone down. Exactly. But you look at something like Chili's where everyone is going right now, because the cost of eating at Chili's is the cost of eating McDonald's. Dude.

Crazy. That's nuts. You know what our version of that is? Fucking Bernie and Vanessa and Emily are the world's biggest Texas Roadhouse fans. And so like once a week we go to Texas Roadhouse. I haven't been to Texas Roadhouse in probably 20 years. You just eat like, it's 80% free rolls

and just constant refills of diet soda. The last time I ate at Texas Roadhouse was we were still working in Butteau. We went to that one down south off of like William Cannon. That's the one we go to. That's the last time I went to a Texas Roadhouse was that one and we were still working out of the apartment in Butteau.

You walk into that Texas Roadhouse, all the same people are there than we were last time, but it is insanely crowded. That is the hottest ticket in town. Wow. It is hard to get into that place. A lot of these places. Because they're affordable.

And the quality hasn't changed. It's like these places that can maintain, where they were already sort of bad, and now they're just like, they've maintained for so long that everything else has come down to their level. That's what I was gonna say, it's sad. Everything's gotten so shitty that this mediocre place is good now.

And it's not, and people will be like, odds, you know, you keep your age you're showing and all that stuff. I'm telling you, it's private equity has cut the legs out from under you and you are gladly accepting it. Yeah. You just don't understand it. It's stock buybacks and private equity.

Mm-hmm. That is what's great. You know what age is? Hmm. It's just accumulation of knowledge. Yeah. I don't talk about this a lot, but like, I was watching CNBC the other morning.

And they were doing an interview with the CEO of PepsiCo and they had had like kind of a shitty quarter and he was on talking about consumer discretionary spending and talking about how consumers weren't buying as much snack products because the election was coming up and people were just like worried about the election and then after they're done with the interview one of the hosts turns to the one who was doing the interview and he's like did he really just say that people aren't buying snacks because they're worried about the election like come on we gotta let's get serious here.

But like no one pressures anyone on anything because then they won't come worried about the election. Like, come on, we gotta, let's get serious here. Is that? No one pressures anyone on anything because then they won't come back on the show. Right. That's all it is. It was such a softball bullshit answer. It was like. Nobody in media is going,

get fucking real, man. Are you serious? And because then they won't come back on the, oh, now our chief communications officer said, we can't go on CNBC. And it's communications officer said, we can't go on CNBC. And it's like, fine, then don't go on CNBC. Like we need hardline stuff. That's crazy.

Yeah, like I can understand. There are point, there are, there is an argument to be made for that for large purchases. House, sure. Cars, sure. Absolutely. A fucking bag of Fritos or a can of Pepsi. The election doesn't play shit into that.

How about people are nervous about the election so they're eating more because people stress eat? Fucking Cheetos should be flying off the shelves right now. I know queso ruffles are flying off the shelves into my mouth right now. I ate an entire bag yesterday. Yeah, yeah. It's so good.

How goofy. So stupid. So dumb. I fucking hate it. Yeah, people don't wanna eat because they're stressed out. Oh, is that right? They didn't wanna spend the four bucks on a bag of Fritos. Get real. I fucking hate it. Yeah, people don't want to eat because they're stressed out. Oh, is that right? They didn't want to spend the four bucks on a bag of Fritos. Get real. Speaking of V, I want to take a stand a little down a path.

OK. OK. I was just popped into my head the other day. I'm planning for Thanksgiving. It's coming up. We're going to go do this Thanksgiving thing. And I got to thinking, I don't know why, but I got to thinking about the turkey that we used to give out when we worked at Rooster Teeth.

Greenberg? Greenberg Turkey is what it was called, yes. And so I couldn't remember the name of it, and so I asked Bernie and he gave it to me, and I bought one, I'm gonna have a Greenberg Turkey. They've got a great domain, they've got a great website. Oh yeah, what is it again? Gobble gobble.com.

No way, really? Yeah. And so- Not a sponsor. The way it happened, Ericbblegobble.com. No way, really? Yeah. And so- Not a sponsor. The way it happened, Derek, I'm gonna Google it. Is it was when we were downtown

in the downtown office, some, one of our clients, and by clients, I mean like, this is game developers, ad agencies. Ad agencies, yeah. One of our clients, one year, sent us. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. I just bought a 15 pounder.

Nice. One of our clients sent us one of those and it comes freeze dried and it's just a smoked turkey. Oh nice. And we were like, what the fuck is this? And then we did the instructions, we thawed it out and then we ate it like raptors. It was so good.

It was the best tasting thing. We had cold, we never heated it up. It was the best tasting thing I've ever had in my entire life. And then from that moment, we started giving those turkeys out to all of our clients every Christmas as a gift Well, not all of them. I don't know if you remember this we had two tiers Yeah

We had a Rudy's barbecue and we would give away until somebody gave us the Greenberg and we discovered that and then we had If we really really liked you you got the Greenberg if we just liked you a lot you got the Rudy's If you were like super S tier you got both. You got both. But that was very rare. It was like Bungie. Yeah. But we went through all these years where we would give those. I remember we'd get together and we'd put the list together of who we were going to give what.

And it was it was always kind of fun. I'm working on that with Sticky Dragon right now. Are you ready? Yeah. And so that got me just thinking about that time in the downtown office. And it was just a really fun, positive period of growth. And I never really thought of our company in this terms, but it made me look at the company, and by company I mean the company we used to work for, Rushdie,

in terms of, by defining the eras from offices, office eras, right? And I kind of just went through them quickly in my head and thought about something fun or that I loved about each one. And I was trying to pinpoint what my favorite era was. And so I'll run the eras down for the, I guess you know them, but for the audience.

There's cheese bread. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, we'll get some. Thank you. I'll be right back. Hold that. Hold that nostalgia thought. What was your favorite office that you worked in, Eric? Was it stage five or stage four?

Yeah, right. I only worked on one of them, dude. Like, that was like, that was crazy to be in stage five and be there for like the move for stage four. Felt really nuts. Because stage five was all I knew. And then moving to four was like, I don't know. It was like four didn't take off

because the pandemic really cut the legs out from everything. Yeah. And then it was like the whole work from home stuff. That was really tough. Like it wasn't, everyone wasn't ever fully back instead of here in the office, like 100% at that point. But I think, you know, it was, I think there's a lot of benefit to work from home. I think we were talking about this before we were rolling when we were at the 100% eat space earlier, but it's like, you got to have people together for like a sharing of ideas and bouncing things off. But I do also really like the flexibility of working from home. Yeah, I mean, this morning, even before I came over to meet up with you guys, I was getting a bunch of stinky dragon stuff done. Yeah, like, no need to go into like some arbitrary office and building to do that. It's like I've got all

the technology to do it at home. Exactly. So I can do it there while I'm drinking my coffee. But the ideas flow differently when you're together. And that's not I'm not for a hybrid solution for a lot of this where you have to come in for like these arbitrary days. Yeah. Because that's not how that works. You need to plan around what you need these people for

and everything. We've been talking about it for, because we have a space for 100% eat and we're there. You know, we do most of our work from home, but we have planned days where we go in and record and shoot and do all this stuff. That's the way it should work. Yeah.

And I would love to do that for regulation and I love doing it for this. Where we get together for 10 minutes and then we drive over to a place and it's like, it's great. Ooh, cheese balls. Oh, they do just look like they're floating. Yeah, we were talking about work from home, but get back to what you were saying.

So, they're hot. Let's take a picture of these. Yeah. The eras I'll define are Bernie's house, which would be Gus 18 months or so, two years, two years, maybe. Yeah. Downtown Buda, which would be three years, four years, three years, closer to three.

Downtown Austin, which would be three or four years. Downtown Buda for three years. I didn't realize that season three to five. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Like I remember doing the table read for Episode One of Season Three at Bernie's house and then not long after we saved it. Not long after we were done to do it. So then downtown Austin for about three and a half years or so. Then Ralph Albinado for

five, maybe four, four years. Then stage, well, Austin Film Studios, which I would break up into two parts, my stage five era and then my soundcheck era. Trick four. That's what we were talking about. He was like, what's your favorite era that you worked at? And I said, well, stage five or stage four. The hard part was stage four is that it never felt like

it got off the ground because we were all remote. Yeah. I spent more time, I was there earlier than that. Cause she moved over there, but. Well, that's right. What was your favorite time? So. Cause they were all, they all had their own flavor.

They were all very distinct and unique periods for us. We were different companies at each one of those junctures. You're much nicer than me. What I was going to say was, I have a different thing I hated about each other. Oh,ctures. You're much nicer than me. What I was gonna say was, I have a different thing I hated about each other. Oh, let's go to that. I like that. And when I say hate, it's more like,

especially in the early days, was the amount of work and just being underwater all the time. Oh. So it's like, while I may have more fond memories of, let's say downtown or Ralph Abellanato. I don't have as many fond memories of Abellanato.

Is that right? It wasn't as good for me as it was for everybody else, I think. Huh. I like that Abellanato, but there was always, like as much good times I had, it was always counterbalanced by the sheer amount of work and just being overwhelmed with stuff. I remember, I'm gonna say probably Ralph Abellanato for me,

just because we went through such explosive growth there. Yeah. It was fun to enter a building, be like, build it out for us to be like, this is way more space than we ever need, this is way too big. And then in the process of three or four years outgrow it. There's no space for anybody. We went from being a

12 person company when we moved into Abenito maybe? 10 or 12 somewhere around there. To probably a 70 person company in that building. Yeah and then it was so big we had to take the that annex over next door, like that little business complex. But so it's like that was great. There was a lot of growth, a lot of new things, all very iconic things to happen there. But there was so much work.

I remember when we hired Adam Baird in 2011, it was like April or May of 2011. I don't think I sat at my desk for a year, because I was constantly having to run around and do different things. Like I had a desk, but it was like, I shared an office with Adam, but I don't think he ever saw me for the first year.

Just because I was just having to run around and do so much stuff nonstop. Wow. So that's why it's a balance. I don't want it to come across super negative, oh, I hated Chris Cheese. It's just like, there are fun memories, but it's also counterbalanced by the sheer amount of work and stuff.

You want to remember however you want to remember. I was just thinking about, I don't know, all this shitty stuff. I've made peace with I guess. I don't know. It's like all jobs suck. You know, the army sucked too, before this. Tele network sucked. So I guess maybe I'm rose, rose colored glasses, glassesing it a bit. But when I think back of it now, I just, I just feel kind of, I don't know, I was just feeling really fond for the downtown office specifically.

And just thinking about how that was a period when we realized we could get bigger than we were. Obanero is where we experienced the explosion. I would say stage five is where it was fully realized for better or worse. But downtown is where broadcast started, Achievement Hunter started, animation started. I would say broadcasting started at AbloNado.

Podcasting started downtown. Yeah. All of those different arms of the companies, all the ad agency stuff, well I guess that was going a little bit in Buda, all that stuff kind of seeded there. But it was also just an exciting period of time when we were small enough where everybody was still, and this is the thing that I, this is when Rooseteeth got away from me, was when we got too big for everybody to work on everything. Right? And we were at the maximum size we could be

and still all participate in the same thing. How do you mean everyone can work on everything? Like you're able to jump from projects or everyone got more specialized? It's like you had the flexibility, you knew enough about the other shit. I see. Even if it wasn't a hundred percent yours.

So even though, in the examples Jeff gave, like I may have been editing the podcast and doing that as my primary focus, if I had to run out of town, someone else could fire up the editing software and do it themselves. Yes, like, and nothing was released by the company at that point in time that everybody in the company

didn't have some sort of eyes on or purview of. So it just like, it was inevitable that it would grow to such a size that the output would outpace our internal ability to view it all, right, or to touch it all. But I just liked that period of time when I knew if we released a short or whatever, that everybody in the company was either participating in it in some way or well-versed in it and believed in it and knew about it and kind of checked off on it.

Even if you weren't in it, you'd read the script, you'd given a note or two. Yeah, exactly. And so like everybody had some sort of agency over everything, you know? I like that era. I like that's where we are. Oh, definitely. Where we will stay with regulation.

We will never outgrow that. Hopefully you have a working air conditioner unlike that downtown office. Oh my God. It broke a lot. We're always having to have repair people out. Downtown? And the windows did not work.

They may as well have been open with how much air they let out. They let plexiglass. And it's like the sound would come in and the cool air would go out and the hot air would come in. And it was, and with all those computers always running and rendering, it was an oven.

That place was fucking hot all summer. I hated it. Wow. But it's weird also, like, Austin itself was also in a different place at that time. Because the Dillows still ran. You guys talked about that before, yeah. We could take the Dillows, like, if we wanted to go places. The Whole Foods flagship downtown had just opened. We'd go over there for lunch sometimes.

We'd take the Dillows or walk over there. That was a great time. Yeah. That was definitely the most fun I had with lunches back then. Yeah. You know why we moved away from downtown eventually? It wasn't the air conditioner that finally beat us down.

It was, I remember this very specifically. Parking got so expensive that we we we ended up paying more in parking than we paid in rent. And Bernie was like, no, I'm done. I won't pay more in parking than rent. And so that was it. Also, we had ridiculously low rent. We did. We had ridiculously.

We mentioned it before, but Jason found that place on Craigslist. Really? We rented it from the Peterpitt. We rented it from the restaurant downstairs. Oh, that's crazy. Cause they only could use the first floor. So they gave, they had this, all this unusable space above them. So we rented it from them. How many square feet was it?

1600. Was it? Okay. I don't remember. Yeah. Yeah. Cause uh, uh, Oblinato, not Oblinato, sorry. Downtown Peter was like 850 and it was a little more than twice that I think. So it's like maybe 17, 18. Wow. So it was like one big office in the back for editing and there was an audio booth in it there was the bathroom and like little kitchen sink area a long hallway that then came out into a bigger room where most of us sat there was a big TV there probably we had four or five

people in that room and then further back was the conference room, which actually faced the street. And that had like the big table in it. I'll tell you what I remember about that place too. Really long, annoying stairwell to get stuff up. Oh yeah. Must've been brutal for them to move in. Must've been brutal for them to have to move in the fridge.

Jeff was always gone. Every time we moved. We just had this conversation. There's a call back to personal. Oh yeah, we just talked about this the other day where we were talking about different offices or whatever. And then we talked about conventions and he was saying like, he's just never there for a move.

Never there. It was always a stop sending me out of town. Stop, yeah, I got a convention I gotta go do guys. Like the fucking Dragon Con, what am I supposed to do with my hands tied? Like the Greek. Hey, do you wanna go to PAX? No, once the weekend we're moving, I gotta go do guys. Like the fucking Dragon Con. What am I supposed to do? My hands are tied. Like the great- Hey, do you wanna go to PAX?

No, once a week and we're moving. I can go to PAX. Like the great lyricist of the late 90s cake once said, you're never there. Yeah, there was like a really long narrow staircase up from the Peter pit. Like that went from inside the Peter pit up to like the back into our hallway.

Or the long narrow staircase up from the front of the Peter pit. Right. That back into our hallway. Yeah. Or the long narrow staircase up from the front of the Peter pit. Right. That people would always try to walk into. One thing I was proud of us for too, is that back staircase would take you right down into the Peter pit, even after they were closed.

And so the owner was a cool dude. And he was like, hey man, if you guys ever want to come down and get yourself some sodas or whatever, you go right ahead. And we all made the decision right then, no. Never. No, we never did.

Because once you cork that, we would destroy that place. Yeah. So right then no, no, we never, because once you, once you want to court that, we were just getting, we would destroy that place. Yeah. So we were like, no. Or also if something ever happened in that business. Yeah. And so we held to that. No, we're doing it. I don't think anybody ever fucked with it. We had a back entrance where we could enter

via the alley that takes us through the Peter pit up to our stairs. I think if we ever use that door, it was like, don't deviate. You just walk directly straight to our staircase and go up to get into the office. Crazy. Smart. I still run into that guy every now and then. Oh really?

Yeah, he's a real awesome. I ran into him a couple of years ago. Nice dude. Cool. I ran into him and his wife, God, like a year ago maybe? Yeah, it was probably about a year ago. And I mean, they run another business in town. And I ran into them when I went to that business

and I probably like sat there and talked to them for like 45 minutes. Oh wow. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Wow. And you know me, I don't get along with anyone. He does it. It's a very long time.

Yeah, they were, it was so nice to see them. What was it like when you realized that you outgrew places or needed to go to another spot? Was it a lot of like hemming and hawing or was it pretty like, we gotta do this thing? I don't remember. I don't know. What do you think?

It was, so the decision was made, the decision that we needed to leave was quick. The decision of where to go was slow. Is that right? Yes, it was brutal finding places. Yeah. Really, really difficult. Is that just because of square footage and needs or what? Right, it was brutal finding places. Yeah. Really, really difficult. Is that just because of square footage and needs or what?

Right, it's like we had very specific needs for what we wanted. And also we want to try to minimize what our cost would be to do a build out. Yeah. Or, you know, so it's like you want to find kind of a blank slate or something that kind of checks a lot of boxes already.

And all the places you go to, they're just not configured for what we needed or they don't have the correct power. We need a lot of power. Yes, you can't get at the time high speed internet here. So it's like we had to... Too much road noise. Really narrow things down. So we looked at tons of places and I mean I think we were used to that even because we worked at the call center. We looked at real estate a lot because when we were opening the San Marcos Center, we had to find a place for it down there.

Yeah. Then even in Austin, we had to find a place to move it to because we outgrew the warehouse that Jeff and I met that first call center location. So we were familiar with looking for real estate and trying to find things. I feel like we looked at commercial real estate nonstop for probably 10 years. Yeah. There was a period of time, that's a good point, we were always kind of looking, even no matter where we were in Rooseteeth,

we were always kind of looking. Even after we were in stage five in Austin Film Studios, we were still looking. Yeah, that was a lot of space, but you saw how it really filled up. Fills up fast. I mean, fills up fast. Doesn't empty as fast, really.

Yeah. And then moving to stage four and everything. And those are like some ready-made offices and stuff like that. But again, the pandemic just really kind of cut the legs out from under a lot that happened in, or that was going to happen, I think in stage four. Where do you put everyone?

Most people aren't there day to day. Everyone's remote. So many people are remote. Even just being in Austin, still being remote. I think, you know, a lot of work can be done remotely. There's a lot of work that can't be, you know, especially in our field, but what you can do remote, you should be able, you should do remote.

There's no reason, I was telling Eric before, while you were ordering the cheese bread, like I did a bunch of Stinky Dragon stuff this morning before I even came here. Like there's no reason for me to have an office to go to. And that's the important thing I think when it's, I don't like a thing where it's like, we're a hybrid thing. You come in two days a week or whatever.

And it's like, if those aren't focused reasons for you to come in, then why are you doing it? You're just going into check a box. You're going into check a box. And so the thing that we like, the thing I really like is 100% eat. We go in to record and do stuff. And it's not just, hey, we're going to like hang out and figure it out.

We go with intention. And it's the same thing with like regulation. I'd love to go and do that the way that we did this morning. The 15 minutes where the three of us were shooting the shit in your 100% eat office. We're so productive for all of our businesses somehow. And we had that. That's when we had the conversation where like you look at me and you go, we got to get an office. We're so productive for all of our businesses somehow. And we had that. That's what we had the conversation. We're like, you look to me and you go, we got to get an office. And you're right, we do have to get an office

because there's something that's lost. So much of what we do is done remotely. It can be and should be done remotely. Our podcast is a podcast that is theater of the mind that needs to be done in the exact way it is done. But a lot is lost. Yeah. But I think it's about going in with intention. If it's just a thing where it's like, hey, I want everyone to come in tomorrow. And it's why?

And it's like, oh, I just want to get together. It's like, let's go in with- Justify the space. Let's film these two things that we're going to do. And then the time around that, that's the time to do the other stuff. Yeah, we're looking for studio space right now for Stinky Dragon.

Yeah. Just because, and we need it, cause like I said, we can do a lot of work remotely. But when it comes to like puppet production, yeah, we need a studio space. We can't like we have a stopgap solution right now, which is we're shooting in garages, garages, garages, just gym equipment that all gets moved and then puppets move in. And that's how Microsoft started. Yeah, it's just not sustainable. Yeah, I said all the greats, Theranos, FTX. Like you could run up there. That's good.

I've been working on a lot of materials. Pretty sure Infowars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we could get the Infowars stuff now. I think Chris is the only person on board at City Dragon, like we need to be looking. Oh no, actually I took it back. I think Ben filled out the paperwork

so we could look at the auction. We talked about it for 100% EAT, but in order, we just want the desk. And in order to get the desk, you have to buy all the production rights and like studio stuff and like broadcast pieces or whatever. You can't just buy the desk. And it's like, I want that.

If you tuned into 100% EAT, and just suddenly it's the Infowars desk, best thing we've ever done. That would be phenomenal. And it's like, oh, that would be so cool. Not happening. I want it. I will for the life of me never figured out

how who the guy we would all get shit face drunk and make fun of on public access in our twenties turned out to have a media empire. When you were backed by a competitive state money and oligarchs in different nations, you can do anything you want. Hey, we're ready for this podcast. We're ready to sell at you.

I would love to try coffee. Oligarch me. Yeah. We need a pivot here. Hungary, Belarus, call us. We'll have our number. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, Victor Orban.

Victor Orban. Get me on the phone. I will take your call. I love, I love the poll of Belarus is such a good one. It's one that people don't think about, but boy it's so, Okay. Minsk, Minsk, Minsk, Minsk. Years ago, talking about old Rooster Teeth stuff,

I used to go to Dice, which is like a conference in Las Vegas where it's a very influential, a lot of video game people there. It's so boring. I went with you one year. It's the most boring thing I've ever done. But it's like,

It's so boring. There's a lot of panels. I think it's really interesting, but I can see, but when you go there, they give you like an attendee directory. And it's like every video game executive and their phone number and their email

and how to get in touch with them. And I remember one year I was there and because I was always going to try to meet people for RTX and try to, you know, tell people about wrist, teeth and whatnot. And it's when like World of Tanks was like really blowing up and really big. And, you know, I'd see it's like, oh shit, like that's the World of Tanks CEO over there talking with all those dudes. And I'm like looking through the directory, like, who are these people? Like, oh, it's like all the executive people from World of Tanks.

Like, and I'm looking at the director like, huh, they're all from Belarus, huh? Okay. Let me go over and try to talk to him, me. Like, yeah, I'm gonna go try to talk to him. And I walked up and I, you know, interrupted their conversation and I got the deathliest, iciest,

I felt scared. Like I was endangered in my core talking to them. And like, you know, I gave them my card. And then I remember like one of the executives reached into his pocket and like handed me back his card. I was like, all right, anyway, have a good show. Wow. I was like, it was, it was really intimidating to try to talk to those people.

We used to work with someone who went on to work at World of Tanks for a while. They don't any longer. And they stopped right before the war in Ukraine. He saw, I think he saw the writing on the wall and he went, this maybe isn't gonna be for me anymore. Think I gotta figure out, make some moves here, shift some gears.

It was really interesting because when you would eat lunch at Dice, it was almost like a high school cafeteria. When they would provide all the food and you would take your tray and be like, there's a big open room with a bunch of tables you go find a stranger to sit at. And I remember one year I was like, I gotta just go around. Again, I was trying to meet people like,

oh, I just like saw a table. It's like, okay, there's an empty seat at this table was gonna sit here and see who I'm talking to. So I sit down and people are kind of already talking to each other and table, it's like, okay, there's an empty seat at this table, I'm just gonna sit here and see who I'm talking to. So I sit down, people are kind of already talking to each other and I'm looking around like, oh, this is the blizzard table, that's Mike Morhain. Right over there. Wow.

That same year, the next day for lunch, like I went to an empty table, it's like, all right, I don't wanna repeat that. Like I stepped into the middle of someone else's conversation, sat down at an empty table, and then John Romero came and sat down next to me. Oh my God. I was like, oh cool, this is the John Romero table. Yo, what's up, sat down at an empty table and then John Romero came and sat down next to me. Oh my god. I was like oh cool this is the John Romero table now. Yo what's up homie. But like it was such a weird conference in that you could meet like every person, like every known

person in the game industry, like every public facing person on top of like all the developers and people who worked on stuff. It was like absolutely nuts. It'd be like constant, hey man, I really love your work. I love everything you did. Not gonna make it weird. Thank you for making stuff. You didn't love that? I will say, I think with the year we went, we did get to see an interesting panel. Was it Guillermo del Toro and Pinjolet? What the fuck? It was Pinjolet and Randy Duvall. Randy Duvall, yeah. Wow No, it was Penn Jillette and Randy Duvall.

Randy Duvall, yeah. Wow. Why? Randy Pitchford. His handle on Twitter was Duvall Magic. Oh, you confused me. It's all- And then Gilman and Tor was there too doing something else.

And it's all coming together while they were on a panel together. Well, it was interesting. The whole crux of it was how... That was a great panel, by the way, you're right. It was how close-up magic and video games can be very similar. And that you don't show everything to the recipient or to the person who's being entertained up front. It's like there's lots of stuff happening behind the scenes that they're unaware of that you can give the illusion

of choice to a player, but ultimately everything's kind of guided. And the thing I learned in that, in listening to Pendulet was talking about closeup magic and card tricks was that when like a magician comes up to you and says like pick a card, any card, like they don't know what trick they're gonna do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right, this like the whole thing's, you know, you have some agency in it and then they narrow down all the possible tricks depending on how everything is going and I thought that was really interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, this like the whole thing's, you know, you have some agency in it and then they narrow down all the possible tricks depending on how everything is going. And I thought that was really interesting. There was another good one, I don't know if you were there that year where it was Gabe Newell interviewing JJ Abrams.

No, I was- Oh wow. Yeah, like that's the kind of panels you have at DICE. It's like absolutely insane. Right, right, but those aren't all the panels you have at DICE. No. Those are like the headline ones. Yeah, those are the good ones. Those are the good ones. It's like absolutely insane. Right, right. But those aren't all the panels you have at DICE. No. Those are like the headline ones.

Yeah, those are the good ones. Those are the good ones. It's like Comic-Con. It's like having, it's like, you got some headline panels at Comic-Con and then you have some other stuff at Comic-Con where you go, what is this for? You didn't make a 64 there.

I'm goddamn right. People talking about how to monetize podcasts. Yeah. What else are the sales guys gonna do? If not stand up in front of the crowd and go, we did it. Got her in that paycheck. We cracked the code. We did it.

Just recently. Wait, where was Dice when you went? Was that at the Mandalay Bay, that one? I don't know. I don't remember where we were. I'll be honest with you. Vegas, all of my memories of Vegas are one memory. They could all have taken place in the same room.

I know exactly. It's all compressed. I couldn't tell you. Did you see the Tropicana got demolished? I did see that. I guess they're gonna make it away for the A's stadium. I think it's still gonna be the A's in Vegas. I think so.

I would assume so. I mean, they didn't change the name when they left Philadelphia and went to Oakland. So- Are they technically the Sacramento A's right now? I think so. Do they change their name? I don't know if they're gonna change.

I think they're just the athletics. The athletics. Right, but I don't know. I guess I hadn't thought about what they're gonna do because it's, OAK is how they're always abbreviated when you're like Seattle SEA, SDP Padres, whatever. I don't know what they're gonna do for A.

A apostrophe S. Yeah. It'll probably be ATH, Ath, athletics, which is dumb. Yeah. What if they're from Athens? We don't know. Could be from Athens. Could be Athenian.

Yeah, but I don't think they're going to be SAC. I really don't think they're going to be Sacramento. I don't think so. Anyway, that'll be Manfred's legacy. You coming over tonight? Yeah. Yeah. Gotta watch two teams I hate play each other

in the World Series. It's going to be great for you. Guys, you're more than welcome to come over and watch baseball tonight. I assume that you have anything else. I've got a no dog in that game. No dog in that fight. I thought he was going to say he has no dog at home tonight, so he wants to have the night alone.

Yeah, I'm like, what are you talking about? You're going to party. I like hanging out with the dog. I do. Dogs are, you know, dogs are a lot of work. I think. Yeah. It's a tremendous amount of work. Yeah. How's your dog going? Shit a lot of work. Yeah.

Shelly's a year old puppy. He's dumb as a box of rocks. He's a bulldozer. I go to his place and I know I'm going to leave with like scratches, but I'm never upset because it's a puppy. It's like, it's like being, it's like being mad at a kid for being a kid. Being mad at a puppy for being a puppy is just like, you're wasting your time. Yeah. But boy, he is like, I think you talked about it

where he weighs 50 pounds, something like that. And it makes you really realize when it's like, I could fight a Panther, whatever. And you just don't think about how much like that weight is coming at you at like full force. I was thinking about the other day, cause I read a fact that a wolf, the certain kind of wolf that lives in Canada

is a hundred and, it's like they're semi aquatic. I don't know. Yeah. It's weird. They got gills. They don't, they just, they swim up to like five miles a day and they hunt in the water mostly. They're on Vancouver Island actually.

I was going to do a soil ride about them. But I never did. They do triathlons. Yeah, and there's a toast. But they're like about 150 pounds. So I think they're about 20 pounds lighter than the average wolf that's like 170, 175. And I got to just thinking about how like Albert

is about 10 pounds under being able to overpower me at all times and he's 58 pounds. If we tacked on another 100 pounds, it'd be no way. You'd be dead in five minutes. You just don't think about, you see the animal like the way it moves or whatever and you don't think about like the actual physical, like the force coming at you.

As Joseph K would say, the musculature. Oh, Brad. I saw a photo a couple of weeks ago. People always say like, oh, you know, dogs are like wolves and like, you got a husky, like it looks just like a wolf. I saw a photo the other week of like a husky next to a wolf. Yeah, tiny, tiny, tiny. The wolf is massive. Tiny, tiny, tiny. So small.

The wolf is massive. It's like, oh, wolves are big. You don't think about the difference between a hundred pounds and 180 pounds until you see it in front of you. And you go, that's a, that's a huge, huge difference. Gigantic. And you know, my dog's 20 pounds or whatever.

And it's like, oh, it's great. It's fun to have a little guy that's 20 pounds. And I just kind of pick him up and put him somewhere and then he goes off and does whatever. If I used to have a dog that was 110 pounds, a big chocolate lab, he's like 110 pounds and he just put a paw on my chest. And just like you'd go, all right, and then go down.

Like there's nothing you can do. That's it. And your dog's what, 210, 220? Right? My streams. My St. Bernard Jupiter at his healthiest, was about 165 pounds. Jesus Christ.

And he was like a sofa. Yeah. If he was in a doorway, you went a different way around the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a friend that had a Mastiff when I was in high school, and it was just like, you play with him, and you try to like rough out, I'm 16 or whatever,

you're trying to rough house, and you're like, I'm gonna wrestle the dog and the dog sort of moves and then he just kind of like shucks you off and you go into a wall and you're like, oh, I think I'm done playing with the dog. The dog's done playing with you. Yeah, no kidding.

And it's like, man, crazy. Your dog is, if I had to guess your dog's eight pounds? No, 12. Really? Yeah. That's pretty close. It's pretty close. It's pretty close. That's like 50% more. He's been bulking up.

He's been working out. Think about how dangerous he'd be if you put a hundred pounds on him. Yeah. What if I was 112 pounds? I'm only a hundred pounds away from being really terrified. So cool. It's a rounding error, really.

He's like stomping around. Oh man. We're getting on, well, we're 40 minutes. We got like a little bit of time still. Yeah. We are, this is episode seven or eighth episode. And we should talk about what it means for the future here to reiterate.

Oh, I forgot. Cause it's been a lot of time between when we've done these recordings and when we're done these recordings and when we're doing them now and we made a pact that if in the eighth episode, yeah, we will all say if we're going to continue this podcast, it all has to be yes. There's one. No, it has to be a unanimous. Yeah. And if it's a no, then that's the end of it.

But it's an, it's an affable friendly in end. There's no hard feelings. We end with a handshake or a hug and good vibes from it. There's nothing wrong with saying no and there's no peer pressure. We're totally okay with whatever the answer is. Have you guys been thinking about it at all? I think about it constantly. Really?

I forgot. I think about it all the time. This is great, that caught me. Yeah, I think about it a lot. I think about him a the time. This is great, dichotomy. Yeah, I think about it a lot. Yeah? I think about him a lot. Oh, wow. Oh, interesting. I know what his answer will be eventually.

I just don't know when it's coming. Yeah. Yeah. Ah! It'll be mid-season. It's gonna be- Episode three. That's so exciting, too,

the way you're putting that is so funny. I know it will eventually, there will be a no. Yeah. I know it's not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, Eric, can we surprise you? Yeah, you guys say yes and I go, uh-uh. Yeah, see?

And then Eric ends our 23 year run. I love it. That would be the biggest heel move in the words, just, it's an audience of people going, these are so great and it's awesome. And you guys both say yes. And I go, we're done here. We did just dying it.

Yeah. Oh man. Are there other places, we have one more episode. Are there other places that you guys want to hit? I think broadly should number eight be a coffee or a not coffee episode. It's tough Uh, I don't care either way I will say one thing I pitched you guys that I would like to do

Mm-hmm, maybe next season if we don't do it if there is the next season and we don't do it right next episode was I really would like to walk rainy. I think A little different. Yeah, and it just like, it's so vertical. Yeah. Is there coffee over there? Where do we get coffee? There's gotta be. There's gotta be a trailer or something.

Let me see. Disgusting Rainy Street. If nothing, we can go to Hotel Van Zee. Yeah, I was gonna say, that's probably like a hotel you get coffee at. Let's see. Oh, there's, oh, Little Brother. Oh, Little Brother, okay.

There's a, it's coffee there. It opens at 5 p.m. Why? I don't know. It opens? It is closed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Opens at 5 p.m. Friday. Coffee shop. That's what it's...

We'll figure it out. That is insane. There has to be other coffee. Classic little brother movie. There's a Coovie coffee that's down on East that we can hit. And then, I don't know. That's close enough.

Yeah, Hotel Van Zandt's the other one that people are saying is the only other one. Hey, we've just identified a hole in the market. That's crazy. People who go to Rainy Street in the morning in the middle of the week. All the morning rainy street crowd. Well, when you pass out in the lawn of one of those bars,

what do you get? Yeah. It's 8 AM, man. Somebody's shoveling you off onto the sidewalk. You gotta get a bacon, egg, and cheese, and a cup of coffee. Where else you getting it? We gotta get, we should have like a coffee cart.

You like push it around, like an ice cream man. Like the, Yeah. Like the Ross Buff like a coffee cart. You're like push it around like an ice cream man. Like the, like the Ross Buss guy. Yeah. And he's got his little bell and he's keep ringing it. He's pushing it. That's good for coffee. Yeah. But then no one wants just regular coffee.

So it's just gotta be like lattes. You just have to have like a lot of milk. I think you just have to have like a little bit of coffee and like a lot of milk. Yeah. And then everyone will just drink that. Just fucking like Starbucks candor bottle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See will just drink that. Just throw those fucking like Starbucks canned or bottled drinks and then take them out of the container.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put it in the thing. See, there you go. This is smart. You're like a vendor at a baseball game. Yeah, it's like, don't worry, I got you. $13.

Here you go, boss. Did you ever watch Nathan For You? Yeah. It makes me think of the episode where he builds the chili suit to sell chili illegally at a hockey game. It's like it's all like bundled around him. Fucking genius. So somebody say that, to sell chili illegally at a hockey game. It's like, it's all like bundled around him.

Fucking genius. So somebody say that if they were ever gonna do a movie of Ron DeSantis, that's who should play Ron DeSantis. Nathan Fielder. Nathan Fielder. Because he has, it's like, he's a malfunction robot that like can't quite smile.

He's like learning human emotions. And it was like, damn, that's the meanest thing I've ever heard that's also so true. Yeah. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. We should talk about Gatti.

What did you guys think of this spot that wasn't Rockman because we didn't make a man joke? We didn't have the milk foam blaster. That's what I said. Or we didn't go to Airman first. Take your pick. Those are the two, the ones that I ended up with. Well, full disclosure, I come here occasionally.

Oh, do you? This is one of my like rotating spots that I've been coming to work, full disclosure, I come here occasionally. Oh, do you? This is one of my rotating spots that I've been coming to work out of. So I like it. I would give the iced coffee a solid nine. I had no complaints, pretty perfect. And then the bread balls are like an eight and a half.

I wanna clarify, that's a cold brew though, right? That's a cold brew, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's different. It is, yes. I don't appreciate it, but I don't understand it fully. Cold brew is the way it's steeped in room temperature or cold water.

You're not extracting like the tannins, the bitters. You're just getting, you're like letting it steep like tea, like iced tea. And then you're getting a lot of the coffee flavor without any of like the bitter notes. It takes longer. Ice coffee is just, we made this coffee. I put it in ice.

And then it goes, oh wow, that's so much water because of the ice. And it's like, that's fine. Here's more ice. That is the difference. This is really good. It's a really excellent cup of coffee. And I feel like it is highly caffeinated.

I'm flying. I had one cup of coffee before we came here. I drank a large. I'm flying. Why do you think I called Randy Pitchford, Randy Duvall? I cannot keep up. My brain and my mouth are out of sync from how caffeinated this coffee is. It's really good.

How do you feel about the bread balls? The bread balls are really good. That's amazing. Yeah, they're good. The banana bread was fine. I thought it was kind of dry, but with a cup of coffee, that's all I'm looking for for a pastry, it doesn't matter. There's, I don't know if you've ever seen it

at the grocery store. We had a lot of HUB talk-B talk before we started rolling. But they have this product called Brazi Bites in the frozen section. And it's like frozen uncooked cheese bread balls like this. You pop them in the air fryer for like 10 minutes, you get this at home. Oh.

Where are they? In the frozen food section? It's like an orange bag, it says Brazi Bites. I'll look for them. Yeah, I always keep some. Like B-R-A-Z-I Bites andzi Bites. I'll look for them. Yeah, I always keep some. Like B-R-A-Z-I bites and Brazil Bites. Yeah, yeah. Watching baseball, eating cheese bread.

Dude, we should do that. Get some of these for tonight. We're gonna hang out with our friend, Burn Dog. And he's watched baseball? He's familiar with it. He wants to like it. He wants to like it. I like the idea of baseball.

Yeah, he just can't get there. He doesn't have a team or anything. And it's like, oh, if we watch it together. I think if you watch baseball by yourself, you're especially on TV. It's difficult because it's a pastime. You're supposed to be reading the like my dad was like passive. Yeah. My dad would read. I remember being a kid.

The Padres would be on TV. My dad would read the newspaper, baseball would be on, and he'd look, here's the pitch, and he'd look up, and then he'd look back down, and then read more of the newspaper. And like, that's how he took in the games. And now when I watch baseball, I'm on my phone, I'm doing something else, and baseball's on.

I think if you try to get into baseball, you think, I'm gonna put it like watching football, like where you put on baseball, and you're just like, I'm locked in. It's like, you're insane. That's crazy. I listen to most sports. Yes.

Honestly, Celtics I focus on, but every other basketball game, I'll just have it on in the background. And then you're like, oh, what was that? And you look for, yeah, fuck. Yeah. Especially now that you can pause and rewind TV. Absolutely.

Not a big deal. And we were talking about this, I think on before regulation or something. It's gotten so hard where normie stuff like sports, which are like the most acceptable things in the world or whatever, like my dad watches every sport, whatever. It's so hard to know where and when your team plays and what channel and not even what channel,

what streaming service, where it is, where it goes, where you can see it. Oh yeah, Apple has the Padres game this Friday. My dad's like, how do I watch it on Apple? He's like, I'll listen to it on the radio. Like that is how far it's gone, is that it's so, you can't do it anymore. So he just goes, I'll just listen to it on the radio.

Which is why I don't want to add apps and food. It just, it's further diluted and makes it more complicated. You're right. I don't want another app. Like a lot of the times when we do a hundred percent eat and we need to order food ahead of time or you have to have like the rewards program thing or whatever, I always just go, Hey Michael, let me use your app. Cause he has the apps for all of them. Cause he orders them all the, it's him and Lindsay and the kids and everything. And it's like, Oh, we're going to order this and we're going to get that.

And we're out and about and we're doing this. They're like all the time. And he's like, Oh, we got the Wendy's one. Here's the Sonic one. It's all this. And it's like, oh, we're gonna order this and we're gonna get that and we're out and about and we're doing this. They're like all the time. And he's like, oh, we got the Wendy's one. Here's the Sonic one. It's all this. And it's like, great, I don't have to download. And I don't want to. I never want to. It's just like, try to be a fan of the NFL. You gotta have fucking, you gotta have live TV

or Hulu or something with live TV. Then hopefully you can get like Red Zone because that helps you make sense of it. But then you gotta have Peacock. You gotta have ESPN Plus. You have to have Amazon. Yeah. Because it's everywhere. All and you got to be a detective to figure out where to watch it. They have like, once you like I did with

like I mentioned last time, so like I did with MLB this year. Yes. Subscribe. Yeah, except and they don't accept you might have blackouts. Uh huh. They have blackouts on the on the Thursday night games, the Monday night game or TNT or it. It Apple or TNT or it happens all the time. It happens all the time. Try to watch, try to be a fan of the fucking San Antonio Spurs

in Austin, Texas. And the thing- Not that I would ever. The thing, sorry, Nick. The thing about it is it sounds like complaining. What I'm saying is you break it down. You can't, you have to get outside of your experience. I know how to find stuff. Yeah. That's fine. I can do it. I do it every day. You have to get out of your experience and go, Mike, this is what my dad loves.

I talked to my dad on the phone yesterday for a while and he was like, hey, World Series, whatever. Like he doesn't care, whatever. And then talk to him about the NFL. And he's like, I, it's like, I can't watch Thursday games and all that, you know, it's like that kind of stuff. And it's like, oh, it's so prohibitive now for the most popular normie thing in the world. The most accessible, easiest thing in the world. What used to be the most accessible thing in the world, and now it's not.

And you say you have to break it down. You have to break it down because it's broken. Yes, yeah, yeah. The system is broken. It's become needlessly convoluted. I agree. It just shouldn't be. No, I give me one app like MLB and give me no blackouts.

Have you seen the video of Rob Manfred sitting in a box at like a America's Game or something? This guy's filming him on his phone. It's just like this distance. And he goes, hey, Manfred. And Manfred looks over at him and he goes, you want the youth, get rid of blackouts, you dumb shit. And Manfred just goes, hmm. And then like starts to turn some faces.

But he's right. It feels like such a holdover from a bygone era. It is because it's a cable company restriction. Right, yes. It's a restriction of the money that live TV sports is bringing or whatever. And boy, they're in the death throes. They're in the death throes of this thing.

Just cut it off. It's done, it's dead. My parents got rid of cable. Yeah. I never thought I'd see the day. Yeah, that's nuts. They got rid of cable. And it's like, man, that's wild.

There's just nothing there. There's nothing there for him nuts Yeah, so I give this coffee like an 8.5 I go with 8.5. Yeah. Yeah, yeah solid nine for me good cup of coffee That'll do it for this episode of good morning Gus. Good morning Gus. Oh, yeah If you if you find yourself here later in the day, check out their ice cream because this is what that's what they are. They have so much ice cream.

They have so many sweets and treats. This is a cool little spot. Yeah, it's I think Thai Thai ice cream is what it is. Very cool. I love this place. It's awesome. It's pretty awesome. Plus, we were able to sit here in the back and record.

You know, I've never been busy. I was thinking about like, I mean, we should get up and walk around. And it was just so nice. It's so good here. Yeah. The weather is decent here in the shade. Yeah, it's not too bad It's gonna be what's supposed to be 90 today. I think so Well, we're almost done with that and we're almost done with this season of good morning Gus next episode

Is it the final episode of this show forever? Is it the final episode of the season of the series shooting to find out black ops man fine? Hey man, free. All right guys. Blackout's made of fun. Yeah. Hey, Manfred. All right, guys, we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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