ANMA - Our Imposter Syndrome

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

Good morning, Gus! We're still at the mall because its back and we're drinking from the e-bar at Nordstrom. In this episode, Gus and Geoff talk about Animal crackers, Mike's Hard Lemonade focus group, Austin Drinkers, Explosive growth in Austin, Weird Wednesdays, Internet clips in front of an audience, Our shows at the Dolby Theater, and Gus losing $100k+. Snag an ANMA shirt to help support the show at www.store.roosterteeth.com. Sponsored by Express VPN http://expressvpn.com/anma and Better Help http://betterhelp.com/anma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You would never say that. It would make any sense. Uh, this is episode 27. Oh, we're ready to go in. Yeah. Good morning, guys. Again. You're still morning.

Yeah. Oh, good. That was the thing he was going to get you on. Yeah, he was about to get me. We're doing two episodes because it's the holidays. This will come out right after New Year, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. I have a new year. How you feel about the quality of the cleanliness of this table? This is much better than the food court. Yeah. That being said, there is like shit all on the floor. There that might be a lot of potential shit on the floor. Um, and we're sultamall. It's food. We are sultamall. Eat it. Um, we have, we've made our way away from the food court. Next to an escalator by a Nordstroms much quieter here.

The mall is back. It just hasn't made its way back here. Yes. The mall, this is one of like the arms towards the department store that nobody goes to. Yeah, unless you need specific lipsticks. There was a, there's a sign we got coffee at the Nordstrom. There's like a little coffee shop there. Yeah, they have a, I guess the rewards affinity program for Nordstrom is called the Nordi Club, which seems like the dumbest, lowest effort.

Yes. Someone had a meeting, it's like, what should we name our rewards program? I don't know, something like the Nordi Club, great Nordi Club. Like, like, oh, that was just to get the ball rolling. Yeah, no, it's good. We got to know what we're doing that. Like, people just did not want to be in that meeting anymore. I, I, what would you have called it? I don't know. That's what the meeting, we would, we

would brainstorm it. We figured out Nordstrom, don't that's good. What it, I like more than Nordi. What a Nord is, I guess, Nordstrom someone's name. I mean, Nordstrom. Hmm. A lot of sins. What, what, what, what was Wil, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Great. Yeah. Hot start. Still at them all. Can all is back. Can I just say? Yeah. Big fan of Nordstroms. Okay. It's Nordstrom.

You both keep saying Nordstroms. It's Nordstrom. Yeah, I'm a fan of this one, but also the one of the main. Some of them fan of both of them. I'm a fan of the Nordstroms. I actually eat at the cafe a lot because Emily likes it. Do you have the cafes a lot? Yeah, well, I've only eaten at the other one.

I haven't eaten at this one. Oh, you eat at the Nordstrom Cafe. It's one of Emily's favorite restaurants. Really? What? I had a really good salad there, the other day. I'm eating a chocolate chip muffin. That is like cement.

It is so- It is a chocolatey muffin. It is also a little undercooked, maybe? I don't know. Well, that's what I wanted to talk about. I got some, I've never seen this pick a little brand before, but guess what I wanted to get about. Is, I got some, I've never seen this particular brand before, but guess I wanted to get a muffin. And I was hungry, so I got some animal crackers.

But I got this happy, they sell happy snacks brand. And I got to say, not great. Not great? Not a great animal cracker. I like an animal cracker with a hard crunch and a specific texture that tastes a little bit like press chalk. Uh-huh. And this doesn't have that. When you think of animal crackers,

when you think of animal crackers, what animals do you think of in an animal cracker? Lion, Lion, Tiger, Bear, Monkey, probably a monkey, elephant. Like zoo animals, right? Yeah. This has-

What was I eating? Lions? Yes. Bears. This has- What was I eating? Lions? Yes. Bears? Yes. Hippo. Okay.

Okay. I think hippo is a cusp animal for me. Yeah. Goat? Okay. I don't think goat. I definitely don't think goat in any- That's a very- it's a very hoey animal.

And I also think of giraffes when I think of animal crackers. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. There's no- that's it. That's it. That's it. The only the only have those four lion bear hippo goat Maybe they can only get the rights to those animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, giraffe is expensive It's maybe giraffes hot right now. I don't look I'm dressed or back. I don't know what the main animal cracker brand is

But there is one and that's the one I'm talking about. Yeah, maybe they have those other animals locked down Look at this an elephant fill out of there. Mm-hmm. Well, I didn't think I will, I didn't think that the four pictured in the train were the four shapes that they had here. Are these going to go dead? Yeah, why? Like, because if you buy a bag of skittles, you don't expect to get flavors that aren't on the bad. Right.

The package tells you what you're getting. I wouldn't equate this to a bag of skittles. The packaging here is for children? Like skittles? No, not like Skittles. This is for children, children. This is like, this is baby food animal crackers. All of the...

I wouldn't feed a baby that. All of the animals have the nicest eyes. Here's the problem. I just see it now. No artificial flavors are preserved as well. No. No GMO. You got to get more GMOs in your animal crackers. That's the problem. I just see it now. No artificial flavors are preserved. Oh, where the non GMO you got to get more GMOs in your animal crackers. That's fucked up.

It's sad. How about you got a chocolate chip muffin that's like concrete from the E-Bar? Yeah, it's a there's no chips in there. No, it's just a chocolate muffin. A chocolate concrete mess. How's that? I stopped the coffee. Yeah. Well, it's time to do our room. No, no, it's just that was the first sip you took. They didn't have any drip coffee. I'm really I had to get an Americano. I'm gonna say this is Like a six okay, so equivalent to Starbucks. Maybe worse. Did you say Starbucks was the seven? Oh, well That was a hot coffee. This is a cold coffee so I had compared different things Starbucks cold coffee is very good Okay, Starbucks has coffee air air could just shake it his head at you. This is Starbucks hot coffee tastes burnt. Starbucks cold coffee. Good. This rating system doesn't

make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. My Americano is still too hot. I just take the top off too. Oh yeah. That's a good idea. I got a little baby Americano too hot. Uh, go for it. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so I mean, we're we're definitely in in the mall and it's making me think, you know, we thought we talked about going to that game stop and buying the Xbox and it first came out. And I said, I lived right across the highway from here. It's making me think a lot back on those times. That was like late 90.

Well, I guess that was early 2000s actually, that time in my life. And I don't know if you remember this. It made me think about the things that I would do at that time. We would obviously spend a lot of time together playing video games, but like, specifically around the time that we were working at the call center,

I felt like I was always tight for money. Like I was always trying to find, we've talked about like having side hustles, trying to find like other ways to make money. And I remember we've talked before about like, reading through the Chronicle and finding free movies and free booze and stuff like that. And I remember one time seeing an ad for that was like research study, get paid $500

or some shit. And I was like, oh, I could do that. But not like, there's always ads in Austin for medical research. This was not a medical research. Austin was the town you went to to get your wisdom teeth taken out for free. And probably painfully. And I was like, oh, this isn't a medical one. This is like some research focus group.

Whatever, I remember I applied and they selected me and I went and this is something, this is the very first time I ever did this. I tried to get into this as like a racket for a bit because it was good money in it. But why didn't you? Because I never did this. I remember when you were doing it,

but I never got into this. So, I didn't do the medical test stuff. I didn't do the medical test. Did you just have trouble finding like, like continuing, or did you get burned out? I felt like they stopped calling me. Oh, okay. But the first time I ever did it,

there was a, like a marketing research focus group and they met at the Radisson over there. I guess it's the line hotel now. Right. Like Cesar Chavez and Congress, and they had rented out one of those meeting rooms, and they had the big meeting table, like eight people in there, and I was one of them.

We were the people they had selected from the ad and the Chronicle, and they showed us storyboards for commercials they wanted to make, and they wanted to know what we thought of the commercials and the products. And specifically, this first folks group, I remember, it was for Mike's Hard Limit. Mike's Hard Limit had come out yet.

And this was like the first ad they were gonna make to like introduce Mike's Hard Limit to the world. And they wanted like everyone's experience with it. And they probably picked me because I drank a lot. Like I might have been something, one of the questions they asked was like, because everyone at the table, they were all like talking about like the different places

they'd like to go for happy hour and all the drinks specials. Here's, I remember one thing about this. I remember you coming home and saying I found people that really drink. Yeah. Yeah. They were some serious drinkers there and they showed us like the storyboards for some old Mike's hard lemonade commercial who were like a bear, chases a guy up a tree, and then like some other guy steals his Mike's hard lemonade out of a cooler. And then the commercial lands with him and a woman drinking Mike's heart lemonade. I think that was, I think that air.

It did air. And I remember hating it. Like they showed the store, I was like, this is the dumbest commercial I've ever seen. And everyone was like falling over themselves, talking about how great it is and how they would drink it. And I was like, this seems stupid. And I was like, one, your product seems awful.

Two, your commercial does not make me want to drink this. They probably find they never called me back. But it was like an hour that we sat there, and when we were done, they gave me like a $500 best by gift card. And I was like, this is the easiest money I've ever made in my life. Yeah.

And that's why I like, I really tried to get into it and do more than I do, and I'm doing a handful more of these focus groups, but I don't know why, like thinking back, I don't know why they didn't give us cash. There must have been some legality thing where they had to pay us in gift cards or some other cash equivalent. But they kind of spawned an idea that we acted on.

So we did this focus group with all these people who I said, these are people who really drink. And like some of them, a couple of them started like sharing stories, like, oh, if you go to this place on this day, they have cheap drinks or if you go to this place on that day, you can drink real cheap and I remember that kind of sparked an idea that I talked about with Jeff that we tried to put together. Yeah, I remember you you told me you were like these guys have figured out the cheapest place to drink alcohol in Austin every day of the week. Correct. They haven't plotted out and they know the exact cheapest drink

in town on any given day, at any given time of day. And that's where they are. Yeah. Which was as a budding alcoholic at the time. Great news for us. It was exciting. Yeah. It was so like, what a wonderland to hear about.

Like, what? These people exist and they're doing this work. Yeah, so we wanted, there's one of our failed websites, one of many failed projects was we wanted to put it all together and build a website called Austin Drinkers, where whenever you would visit it, it would tell you at that moment what the cheapest drink in town was.

Oh, that's a cool idea. Yeah, it's like, oh, that's great. You visit the site Tuesday at 4 p.m., you wanna go to this bar because they have dollar well or whatever. That's a real 2008 internet idea. This would have been old for me. No, you know, you know, or that. Oh, two.

And you guys were ahead of the curve. And then that wasn't it. Then we thought we could take this nationwide. We wanted to call it drunk army. Yes. And then we would have meetups and stuff. And it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, a random time FARC started having meetups.

Yeah. And, uh, and then that took off a whole life of its own, like internet meetups and stuff and it was a it was a random time FARC started having meetups and yeah and and then that took off a whole life of its own like internet meetups and stuff but yeah and I will say we we part of that was we wanted to I'm gonna get around to the point where I say andma is is a direct result of moments part of what we wanted to do in that was we thought to pull this off we need the knowledge of every bar in Austin right so we need to visit every single bar in Austin so we started we can get very far for we go on the I do I honestly I do I think we were

probably very busy with the beginning of Rooster Teeth and other stuff we had going on but we so we tried to go to every bar in town and I remember we kind of gave up on that at some point or we shelved the idea and then that eventually turned into us wanting to go to eat at every hamburger restaurant in town. Yes. But then some fucking kid and the Chronicle and his dad did it. And so they, and they like, reviewed every hamburger restaurant in town. So we didn't do that. But that eventually, 20 years later turned into wanting to go to every coffee shop in town. Yes. Which is what this podcast came from. And we're already at the Nordstrom.

And here we are at the bar. Well, again, we had, listen, we had an idea to go somewhere else. It's raining. It's terrible when I'm outside. It is raining. So we had to do something inside. And we said two episodes at the mall. And Gus said, I did not approve this.

And now here we are. Yeah. Two episodes in the mall, baby. We were going to go to radio over on May the fact, which I still wanna do. I went there for the first time in, I don't know, many, many years, to last weekend, two weekends ago,

because my cousin did the coolest thing. His husband was having his 40th birthday and had a ton of friends in from out of town in the country. And so he set up a scavenger hunt, an Austin scavenger hunt, and everybody split up into teams, and you had to let go and take photos of these things around town.

The coolest way to introduce people to a new city. That was really, I had an Emily and I knocked it all out in like three hours and then went Christmas shopping, but they had a whole, like fun all day long. It's kind of exploring. It was neat, that was a cool idea. I did that with Jordan Swears' wife, Holly. Remember, they one time.

Really? Did a scavenger hunt downtown? It was going to, it was like, here's a riddle, and then it's like, oheer's wife Holly. I remember it that one time. Did a scavenger hunt downtown. It was going to, it was like, here's a riddle. And then it's like, oh, it's Russian house. So we all went to Russian house and had a drink. And then what's in Rolsen A? And it was like, it was very cool. Rady, I've radio coffees, a cool spot. And I really want to do a thing there.

They have bands that play Dante from our IT department. His band just played there. They got really, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in a band called the Melos, but I think another band that he's in, he plays drums, he plays drums very well for an IT guy. And his band just played a radio coffee. I thought that was very cool.

I like that there's still stuff that isn't on six street where you can go do that and you can still go see those things. That's a big ass. I think go to Dan's hamburgers, right? A block away. Did you ever get to see their friends? No, no, I think I moved here after friends was gone. I'm a, I've only been exclusively to many Dan's.

The friends, the friends sign like the three dimensional friend later with the burgers. She's in a yard over in Cherrywood. Oh, really? I was driving around a couple of months ago and I saw her in like a front yard. That's cool. Maybe maybe somebody, I don't know Bob the auction or maybe somebody used to work there something the France the last friends I know of was the one on South Congress which is a torches now. Yeah, it's that torches down there

It's like local Austin burger chain I was been around for decades friend and Dan got divorced and they split the restaurants It is a very I mean, so I'm, I'm sure it's a common story, but a very common Austin story. Like, Manja, same thing, they got divorced and they split the manjas up and then they all went under, yeah. I didn't know that, Dan and Fran, yeah. And Dan's still going strong.

Yeah, there's like, there's like three or four that I can think of. I can think of one on Lamar, I can think of one off of airport. Now, I can think of the crony one on airport. Yeah, yeah. There's the one by radio airport. Now, by the way, the crony one on airport. Yeah. There's the one by radio coffee. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

There's the one in San Marcos, Wiesti breakfast at all the time. Oh, yeah. Oh, pewda. In beauty, sorry. I have, I've never been there for breakfast. I wonder if they have coffee. We should do a dance. Oh, that'd be great.

We should do a dance breakfast. We should go to that one on airport, by the spring day. Yeah. Yeah. I've never been there for breakfast, but so many people have told me like, yeah, it's like really good breakfast. We should go to that one on airport, like Springdale. Yeah, yeah. Never been there, I've never been there for breakfast, but so many people have told me like, yeah, it's like really good breakfast. It's good.

And it's like, oh, that's weird, because I really like, I like their burger. That's an easy, that boy, that's an easy burger. There's one on Lamar that I would go to all the time to find another drive through. Yeah. Sucks. The one like by Canig.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not over by Canig. Yeah. Yeah, I go up that way a lot and pass by it. I'm always like, yeah. I can drive through. Yeah, I can I'm not over by canning. Yep. I know that one. Millie, yeah, I go up that way a lot and pass by it. I'm always like, Oh, yeah. Yep.

Yeah, I think it out. It's interesting to me because they do a thing that I think a lot of other burger places don't do. Like lots of times you go to a burger place, and you're like, I'll take a single or a double or a triple. And they just stack more patties on. But at dance, you order your burger, and you order a small, a medium or large.

And they just make the patty bigger and bigger, depending on what size you order instead of just like taking one patty size and stacking it on top of a top of itself to make a bigger burger. I have one Fran's story. Okay. It's not much of a story. One time I was still married to my first wife, we went into eat a Fran's one day like on a Saturday. Back in the old days, you spend a lot of your Saturdays just like window shopping on South Congress.

Which I guess people do now too, but it's a very, very, very, very, very, it was a much more like local friendly place at the time. There were a lot of like parts in labor which might still exist somewhere, but it's just catered to only local establishments. And I don't know, it's had a really good vibe back in the day. It's back in the days when they would do the first Thursday thing.

Yeah. And so we would go to South Harmach all the time. There was great, there were great, great old antique stores that no longer exist, unfortunately, or have moved around. But I went in there one time and we sat down and I heard a familiar voice and I looked over and we were sitting next to Dennis Quaid in his family. Oh really? Yeah.

And we'd just like, you know, burgers and left. That's my story. Let's have next to Dennis Quaid there in 2001 maybe. Yeah. Hell yeah. And then nine short months later. Bernie made off got him. Oh.

Is that where you're going? Yeah, don't worry about it. So Austin is a very... I just feel like it's for as big a city as it is. It still has a lot of that friends and dance, Hilbert's, like that kind of stuff where I think a lot of larger cities have those things but they are like they kind of scaled up with the city. And these places have not Hilbert's and Dan's and all that stuff are very much just like this is the straightforward place to come get the straightforward thing. Yeah. You don't see that a lot in like other places.

There's always like this is this thing's been here for a long time and it's very expensive now. Yeah. And that's not how those are. I think that they're you know, like those places you mentioned Hilbert's dance like they're from an old guard right? Like you started a long time and it's very expensive now. Yeah. And that's not how those are. I think that they're, you know, like those plays you mentioned Hillbirds, Dan's like, they're from an old guard right? Like you started a long time ago, they're still around. I feel like there have been newer franchises or newer businesses at start in Austin that do take that explosive growth route like Pteries like P Terry just started now they're everywhere. Chains that are nationwide, if not very close, P Terry's,

Rudy's is all over the Southwest. Torchies. Torchies is everywhere. Drafthouse. Drafthouse is everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, uh, fucking what's the Mexican restaurant that I can't think of top my head. It's everywhere.

Taco Bell. No, um, it's on Barton Springs. Mexican restaurant on Barton Springs. Oh, yeah, two is in like 30 states. What's up? There's a Chewie in Alabama. There's 30 people that eat at Chewies. Chewies is big. Chewies is huge.

I actually have the Chewies all the time in Houston when I live down there. I know it's not technically in Austin franchise. I think technically it's called station, but free birds. Oh, that's right. I mean Austin has adopted it. Every moment we want to get like technical. I think Rudy isn't either. I think he's starting to like in the hill country. Sure, is I mean Austin has adopted it. You know every one of you want to get like technically I think Rudy's isn't either I think like in the hill country sure close enough. Yeah, speaking to that explosive growth in Austin and everything

Is there anything that you saw kind of crash and burn with that like especially over like Texas French bread? Yeah, Texas French bread. What is that? It was a bakery. Yeah, and they were beloved. I should say was, it still exists kind of and it will exist again. But it was a really successful bakery that everybody loved that in the early 2000s just started expanding like crazy.

So many locations. I think they got up to like 13 locations and then they got overextended and they got into some financial trouble And they ended up having to close them all I read an article about it like one of the sons was like a lawyer in New York And he like moved home to help figure it out and like took it over But anyway, they they ended up going down to just one Texas French bread, which is over by UT. It's at 30th and Guadalupe or whatever. Yeah, just west of Guadalupe.

Yeah, it's by that hardware store. Read it and it was a fucking awesome store, by the way. I don't know why I slept on breeding company. I was all the time now. It really is great. But anyway, they didn't have to have it to close all but one. And then they reorganized. They turned the bakery.

They did a really cool thing. We're in the daytime. It was the bakery and then at night they turned into a supper club, and that was very successful. I tried to eat there a couple of times, I can never get reservations. And then last, earlier this year, it burned down.

Like six months ago, yeah, I caught fire burned down. Historic building too. I think they, they have a trailer out there now. I think they, yeah, they just start, like relaunched operations and they're trying to get, like the bakery business back up while they, like, redo, rebuild the building. Yeah.

Manja is another one. It was a pretty popular pizza restaurant that they had, I would say, four or five restaurants. I think like five locations or so. Yeah, then they were down to one for a long time. And that one's gone, I think. They, that one got that, the one I always think of was the one

that was on Guadalupe, like a cross from Weetzville. Yeah. And that whole building got bulldozed. That's like, Weetz at World VIA 3, went three years now, they built those apartments and then retail in the first floor there. That's like points out where Vga 3, 1, 3 is now like they built those apartments and then retail in the first floor there. That's the one I always think of. There was that one over on Lake Austin as well.

Over by like deep Eddie Cabaret. And there was one over on Mesa. And there was one by the Domine off of Duval up there. I would say some others that are still around that are not what they were. Conan's pizza. You don't see a lot of those or any more. There's one up on Burnett. There's like two.

I can think of. There used to be a lot. Really? Yeah. Double Daves. Double Daves was everywhere. I don't know that there's one outside of the South Park that I was one.

I cannot think of the last time I had double Daves. We used to get pepperoni rolls from that one on Riverside all the time. There's a double Daves at Q2 Stadium and that's the thing that you eat when you're already drunk and you're going to get drinking. Because you eat the pepperoni rolls and it's like eating concrete. It just sits in your fucking stomach and absorbs every doseckys that you're putting on top

with. Gus and I told a story in a podcast once, I think it became an animated adventure about a couple not understanding how the automated code machine worked. That was at the double days by the old art. Is it South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man or South Park Man by the old art team. Is it South Park Meta or South Park Meta, Joe? That these were, I'm thinking of a place that was not a chain or was not maybe not even very popular. Well, whatever happened, Mr. Goodsense,

you remember Mr. Goodsense? I know the name. It was at Sandwich Place, South Park Riverside. You get the nickel or the dime. The nickel or the dime, yeah. Yeah. That was gone, early 2000s, yeah. It was just like a sandwich shop

that was super cheap. We still love eating at all the time. This is the same. It was so close to where we lived and worked at the time. There was a lot of stuff in that shopping complex there like that, that one there off a riverside where that movie theater used to be where the Chinese food buffet is now.

Yeah, that's where, because the double daves was right over there. Mr. Goodsense was right next to that place. That was a stomping grounds, man Yeah, we know all those places way back then talk just 25 years ago about Riverside yeah I can't think of any other chains that crashed and burned can you I know there's more got to be more run text Did you remember run text? Yeah, they do got it like I think I do went to jail for like tax Really yeah, and it's now like 512 to Keela. Oh, yeah, that was huge though. That was a big operation. That's another one that blew up Tito's Tito vodka. Yeah, they launched only like the late 90s. Yeah, it was like local like, it's fucking... It's you being a witness, man. Yeah. Not just T-dos, but, uh, what, 512, there's, uh,

there's like a hillcatch, what is the one? There's a bunch of vodka's around here, yeah. Very popular. I'm sorry, I've lost my alcohol knowledge over the last five years. Oh yeah. Yeah, you're not keeping up with the new stuff. Mm-hmm.

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how great barbecue was and they wanted to come here and I was like, man, these guys are doing it right. It should be everywhere, you know? I'm actually really glad when that happens. Yeah. Um, I think it's awesome that the entire country can experience the Alamo Drafthouse. Yeah. And a bunch of theaters that have taken the idea and done their own spin on it.

Yeah. I wish the problem I have, I love the Drafthouse. Whenever I want to go watch with Stephanie where I go, the thing I miss, I feel like as they grew and as they got bigger, which great for them, I feel like a lot of the niche programming has kind of fallen by the side. It's not like, and they still do it. It's not, it used to be like the focus. That was the thing.

It's no longer the focus. Right. They still have weird Wednesdays. But I feel like it's harder to find that information. Yeah. You really have to seek it out a lot more. You know, I used to have, I used to get the newsletter or I could check the, it was like top of the line

on the website and I understand the new movies make more money. It's just, I missed a lot, a little bit of the weird stuff. When I was in that period, like in separation and divorce before I was like kind of seriously dating Emily and kind of settle down again, not in like a dating sense but I just had a lot of free time and I was lonely. A lot, I went to so many weird Wednesdays and so many horror to, terror Tuesdays

and so many like, because I live downtown, I was within walking distance of two alamos. And so I was doing one or two of those a week every week and it was so great to be back in that world again and it just felt like timeless, you know? Going to watch an eraserhead at midnight, it just, I don't know. Yeah, that's like I think about that a lot

when I go to the draft house. It's like going to the old original downtown location and watching the jerk and getting a pizza in a cup for everyone who attends or watching Shaft. And everyone gets a cult 45 when you walk in. Watching made the premiere of May and having Peter Billings leak check our hands on the layout, you know?

Yeah, thanks for coming out. That stuff was really cool. I remember one time I was watching, I went to a midnight screening of Night of the Living Dead, like the original Night of the Living Dead, at the dry coming to get you, Bob. Right, bro. And like 20 minutes into the movie,

something fucked up, and all of a sudden, the picture was upside down, and it was like the third act. And then the lights come on, and the projection just come out, and be like, yeah, whoever had this print last was a real asshole, and they put the real back in order in the wrong way. Like, I need to unspool the entire thing, recut it all and respel it's like, it's gonna be like half an hour.

I remember I used to go, I think we've talked about this before on the show, but early internet or early, and pretty internet. There was this thing in Austin Public Access called the show with no name. Yeah. And it was kind of like internet clips before internet clips. This guy Charlie. And he got in of like internet clips, before internet clips, this guy Charlie. And he got in trouble because he punched out Alex Jones because when they were both local,

when they were both on public access in Austin, because that's how Alex Jones got to start unfortunately. And it was a whole thing he got in trouble. But he would do these shows at Alamo that were like two hours long where he would just play clips. And I remember being so excited, I went to the first one, because I just wanted to be there.

I don't know if you were there or not. I don't think I was there. But I went to the first one. I was so fucking jazzed and then it was like after about 30 minutes you realize context and some things are funny at home and some things aren't funny. I tried watching Chuck Berry P. On a lady in his shower with 200 people is like, it's just weird. You're like, I don't know. This isn't, this just feels weird. I didn't go to any more of them. Do you remember the, I don't remember what was called the incredible internet festival at Lincoln Center? Yeah.

With the pissing monkey. Yeah. There was this, like this web, it's a similar show, this like this web festival that took place at Lincoln Center in New York, where, you know, they showed like clips from the internet and everyone was like sitting in the audience watching. And then at one point in the show, the person was running it, started asking people for clips they wanted to see,

like asking the audience, like, I can play a clip. And then like, they learned a valuable lesson in that moment. Someone would shout something out, he'd type it in and the clip would start playing and no one would be laughing. And then that person would be like, turn it off, stop, stop.

Okay, turn it off, turn it off. It's like three minutes long, turn it off. It's like three minutes long, turn it off. It was so uncomfortable. It was, it was great. I was like, let's take the awkwardness of sharing video and put it, you know, in this theater and force everyone to watch it together. We did a promo video for that too.

You did? Yeah. What was that? It was just jokes. Just our rebate. Yeah, making fun of the name. Why don't we call it the incredible edible internet? I remember those might be a joke from from that one. As your favorite joke in that video. Yeah. I don't remember much else about it. But yeah, we did.

We were very fortunate. We did several premieres and shows at the Lincoln Center in New York, which is like wild to me. One of the first screenings we did in public was like a season one screening and like the premiere season two we did at the Lincoln Center up in New York. It was like the first time a lot of us came together. We told the story the other day or a couple episodes ago. I got stuck in New York for a while. Yeah, we stuck there and Jason having to fly out. That is slip, but it was like the first time a lot of us got together. The first time a lot of us really saw the community. Gavin was there.

It was when we met Gavin. I was when we told us right about how like his fly was down and I made fun of him with his fly down in front of 200 people. 400 people. And it's just wild to me that, you know, it's like such a prestigious place to go to like the Lincoln Center and like, we're playing on like dick jokes on the screen there. We felt like we were making it dirty.

Like we were soiling the place. But I remember the thing that was wild, the crate, because we ended up doing like three or four of this. Yeah. It became like a regular for us, like a mainstay for us. But the week after we were leaving, they were having an airing of Lord of the Rings with the entire cast.

And it was the first time the entire cast had been together since the movie came out and watched it together. And I remember thinking like, how the fuck are we on the same stage as this? Which, you know, is huge now, but at the time was like so much bigger. Yeah, it was like brand new. All of a sudden it was still had just come out.

It was like very, it was in the popular culture. Yeah. On a different level. But I feel like that, I feel like, I don't know about you, that happened to me a lot, like that imposter syndrome creeping in. Like what were we doing the stuff? Like still does.

Go into the Lincoln Center. I remember we did a screening. You were there with me actually. We went to, we did a screening at an IMAX in San San Jose, like a science and technology museum. And like I'll, even going to Acme in Australia. Like this crazy place where like in Acme, I remember specifically like you walk in

and like you walk in this beautiful building. It's like crazily designed. And like the first thing you walk in and immediately to your right, it's like, oh, this is where the Oscars are. Like, there's like a display case with like different like an Academy Award. Like, oh shit, there's an Academy Award right here.

And we're gonna go walk right past it to the theater and make we digs We did let's play live on the stage where they film the Academy Awards remember though. Yeah, the very first one in LA What is it what is it called now? The doll it was the Dolby theater Dolby theater. Yeah, like that's insane. Yeah, I remember when we did the walk through before the show I was before the Academy Awards. they had like the seat fillers. Yeah, they will know they had like printed out faces of different actors and actors. Where they sat. Yeah, all in the seat. So they knew where everyone was.

I have a picture of Millie sitting next to the Kevin Hart one because he was like her favorite. He's her favorite celebrity. And she was like so excited. She's like Kevin Hart sat here. She got a picture with our arm around him. That's great. We've been very fortunate to go to a lot of these like really prestigious places. What you just learned, I think pretty quickly that even prestigious places have to fill seats at some point.

They got 365 days a year of programming and they got to fill it with something. Yeah, and you never think that you're gonna be the one that's gonna be that thing that's gonna be on the Thursday where they have the Oscars on a different day and March or what, yeah. You never think like, how could we ever be here? And it might not feel like maybe looking retrospect

or whatever and you're like, oh, you're just kind of dumb shit's going, doing whatever. But like, it's fucking to be able to say that, that is a, that's rare company. I just remembered that while we were there for that, because we did let's play live and then age live. I don't know probably 20 times at this point. That all kind of runs together. But I remember that one was also interesting at the Dolby Theater because we had a little bit less room in the behind the

curtain because they were about to film the finale of America's Got Talent. Oh my God. And they had all the props and shit. All the America's Got Talent, like signs and shit in the back, it's all random. And so we were just like tight spaces. Yeah. Geez. I remember that first let's play live, we did here in Austin.

I was at the ACL theater. What was that place called? Moody theater? Moody theater. Yeah. I thought I was gonna die that day. Uh, I was, because that's still when I ran advance, I was like organizing all of that shit.

How much money did you lose on that event? I lost a lot of money. First of all, I thought I was gonna get fired for the amount of money I lost. But like, can you give a dollar figure? Are you allowed to? It's hard to remember. Was it $100,000?

More. More. Okay. I remember it being very expensive. But that day, I'd never left the building the entire day that the event went on. It also wasn't your fault. I had it.

No, it was not my fault. I had a pedometer. I walked 15 miles that day entirely in the theater. Are you serious? Yeah. Oh my God. It was so much running around and like just trying to organize shit and get shit together.

Surragious. I thought I was going to die at the end when that show was over. And it was a great show. I was like one of the coolest when that show was over and it was it was a great show I was like one of the the coolest things I think we've ever put on but what a technological nightmare to do all of that Gus The way it was conceived. I guess what we were doing had never really been done in that way before at that time

At least as my understanding. Yes, correct. And so there was a lot of questions as to whether we could pull it off technically. And so Gus had to do a lot of work to find, I'm sorry I'm speaking for you, but Gus had to do a lot of work to find the right companies that could pull this off,

because we were having to live switch between six Xboxes, six PCs, six Nintendo switches. It was just a nightmare of rockin' it. All at the same time, six PCs, six Nintendo Switches. It was just a nightmare of rock. All at the same time on screen and then display it and then we have Twitter all and we have different setups. Yeah, you want to have the pictures here. You have people who listen to this by night and think about that.

When you have this video source, where is it going to go? It's not going to fill the screen. It's going to go here. They're going to rock out this source here. It was very complicated and the company that said that they could do it, there was very expensive, like two weeks before the event, just got cold feet

and backed out and said, never mind, it can't be done, we can't do it and just a band and gust. And so, gust had to then start flying people in from around the country, like experts that he could find, they could pull shit off. Yeah, like, that's what it was expensive. Some of the hardware we needed, it's very different world now, was like so special.

What year was it? 2011, 12, no, 14, no, 14, no, 15, no, 15, it was February, 2015. Okay. Some of the hardware we needed to do all of this routing was so expensive that like there's this one particular piece of hardware that only three, there were only three in the entire state of Texas

and I needed all three of them. Yeah. So it's like I had to the entire state of Texas, and I needed all three of them. Yeah. So it's like I had to get all three of these, it's very specific pieces of hardware to accomplish the routing, where to fly dudes in from Indianapolis when you had to use the hardware. Yeah.

And it was just a nightmare of finding very specialized people to do this very ambitious project. Which is why when you see AH Live now, it is, it's the profitable version of what we created with Let's Play Live. Like it's down to one group, so we have to fly less people in, it's less expensive, and it's down to a lot of prop comedy, a lot of improv, which they have more fun doing on stage anyway, and then single player co-op versus on a single box versus on a switch most likely.

See a lot of overcooked a lot of fall guys a lot of that kind of stuff because it's so much technologically it's so much cheaper and easier to pull off I remember when I that two week mark when that when that other company quit you know I was in crisis mode and we had a meeting with my bosses at the time and I was like listen we can cut all of this stuff, like trying to create a version of the show like you're talking about. Like, if we just redo the entire program,

we can cut all these things, cut this thing, maybe we can make this work, we can bring this thing on under budget. And I remember someone looked at me in the eye and said, fuck the budget. And I said, I said, OK, I want you to email me that. Because I need proof that you said that, because this is going to be incredibly expensive

to do this show that you want that's on paper on paper right now. With naming names does that person still work with us? Yes. Okay. Yes. I know who it is then. Yeah, it was a good person. It was a absolute nightmare.

But it was a nightmare, but it was informative as hell, and we learned so much, and we learned it. And we applied that the next time and the next time. And now, you know, I don't, I think my days of participating in or over, but they'll keep doing a H live or some version of that, and they've got it down to a science now. Yeah. That's awesome. A very fun show too.

Learned a lot. Yeah. I feel like I've had, we crawled a lot. I feel like we crawled a lot. Yeah. I feel like I've had, we crawled a lot. I feel like I've had, we crawled a lot. Ten different careers in the span of working at this company. There's so much different, weird knowledge, very specialized lots of times that, and then knowledge that you need for six months and then never again. Right.

What a nightmare. That is how to lose that much money on something. And then I just can't imagine. Then do it again. Like what it's like, not just the day of when you're running around for 15 miles and oh my god, we lost all this money, what's it like the day after?

Oh man, it was like a huge stress relief because all of this had been building up to that day, right? Like is this gonna work, is it gonna happen? And finally it actually did get executed. I think I wanted to cry the entire next day. It was like such, like letting off the pressure valve, you know, just like it's done, we did it. It worked, people liked it, people had a good time,

good feedback from like, even like, people from the parent companies had showed up to see this thing. And that was the big from like, even like people from the parent companies had showed up. You see this thing. And that was the big thing. It's like everyone at the parent companies is super impressed. They have no idea how you did it. Wow. Like at the time, AT&T is like, in awe,

they think it was an amazing show like, thank God. I remember conversations with Gus, I'm like, they're not, they can't fire you, dude. You're a fact. I thought I was gonna get fired. I was like, there's no way that this is gonna work. There's been so many times though, you and I have thought, like, we're fucked, so we're gonna get fired.

It's a lot of money. Yeah. It's a lot of money, man. Yeah, it's a lot of money. Man, wow, I just, and then to keep doing it, huh? Well, not that way. We didn't do it that way, we've, yeah, we streamlined it. And also it wouldn't have been that incredibly expensive

if that company hadn't backed out as a lot of our fulfilled the promise. And that's how he got fucked, you know. It was gonna be a break even at that point. Or we were gonna lose a little bit on the, on the, to test out the idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, now we have a whole department

that runs this stuff and all the broadcast guys, like Michael Lindblad and what Patrick Salazar does and everything and and Shane and what everyone puts together and then with the help of Adam Beard and all this stuff and it's like Oh, we have like all these people that like know this stuff to go back and be like yeah lost so much money on an idea that we just tried F-f-a Everybody that you just named is an absolute superstar in this company that I cannot speak highly enough, especially Patrick Salazar, who I just can't say enough good things about. But goddamn Adam Baird in that environment doing a live show is what he

was put on his earth to do. That is what he is untouchable in that environment. That is like Jordan game seven shit where he like he just comes in and runs the floor. Yeah. And you're like, this is it's on. It's a thing of beauty to watch. I've never seen anything like it from anyone else. I remember before it was, I believe was RTX 2012. It was our first year in the convention center. Mm-hmm.

We had this idea for center stage, like a big focal point everyone could look at. It was a huge stage with a bunch of computer, kind of like the Let's Play Live setup. Yeah. A bunch of computers, we would play video games and entertainment and we'd never really done anything. Again, this is different than Let's Play Live. Actually, it was before Let's Play Live. This was 2012.

It was this really, really new technology and it wasn't working. It was like, the doors are about to open. It's Friday morning. Nothing's working. The stage is just like dark. Not a single thing on it works. And Embaird hadn't slept like in two days. And he's up there. And five minutes before the door opens, he fixes it. And everything like, it like, boom, it like pops to life and everything turns on. Like literally minutes before the doors open. I was like, thank God, Adam Baird was here to like sort, like untangle everything,

sort it all out and put it all back together and fix it. Him coming back to RougeTee is one of the best things that ever happened to this company. Yeah. Yeah. What a, yeah. Yeah. He's tremendous. Very talented people. Yeah. I have some people who are lucky to work with like these people who like know this stuff, passionate about it and passionate working at RougeTee. Yeah. It's really cool. It's great. Fun to travel with too, Adam Berrick. Oh yeah. Yeah.

I don't know if I were to travel with him. Yeah, we did. He did the Australia tour with us. He was just great. It's great all around. You guys want to go to Australia for the women's world cup? When is it? Six months?

It's in the summer. It's June, July. July, end of July, beginning of August. The America plays at the end of July in New Zealand. And that's like the stage. Get a winner. Yeah. That's the group Zealand. And that's like, get a winner. Yeah, that's the group stage. And then beginning of August,

everything will be, I think on the east coast of Australia, it'll be like Sydney and all that bullshit. That's where everything's perfect. It's everything of a person. Speaking of soccer. Yeah, I have been, I've been so annoyed this morning,

I'm waking up listening to all my political shows or like morning podcasts, where he is just hearing Americans who just discovered soccer, complain about a game ending on penalty kicks and how they should change the rules. Yeah. Yeah, they're all Dodgers fans who think the Dodgers should have won the World Series because they won 100 and a regular season games and one playoff game. I don't know why you have to go on playoff.

Dodgers into this. They don't have every one online was like, but they won so many. They should automatically get a bit. They should get deeper in the playoffs. They did. They got to buy. And then they lost to my San Diego Padre. Who then lost to?

Well, we don't talk about that. To Nick's fucking Philadelphia Phillies. I lost to. No, no, no, no. That's why you lost so much money to Philadelphia Phillies fans. That's why you play the games. Yep. That's what that's what the point of the game's on

Congratulations on 111 regular season victories. That's great. Congratulations on one playoff. Anyway, penalty kicks are cool. Yeah, I think that I think I think it's great. Why? I think what a great way to it score one more goal. Yeah, then you don't have to go to penalties. The thing that I wonder about is, and I'm sure this reason why, like, why did they change it so it's not a golden goal in extra time anymore? So that's a great question. I don't know. And me and Jordan had a big conversation about it. And I can't figure out. I feel like that would be a good way to end it. And extra time you score a goal. They're immediately. Yeah, I can't imagine that game ending any better than I did though. No, it would have ended. You would have ended on that messy goal in extra time. Yeah, it would have been three two. It would have been messy, which also would have been a great ending. Yep. Messy would have instead of, you know, and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no France and Bappes for making it all the way to the finals. The France and Bappes. What way to go.

Patrick, though. Man, that's what a performance from one guy. Yeah, he put that team on his back. Three goals. He must be furious. No one else did anything. That was incredible. What a performance.

What a performance. Absolutely. One of the, what will go down as like one of the all-time classic greatest final. Absolutely. A lot of fun to watch, but we need to wrap this podcast up. I see enough with the great. So, I see enough of the goats. So the coffee.

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Oh, okay. They got the right thing. I thought it was an erotic bar. Yeah. So since the last episode, which has not come out at the time of this recording, no one has new guesses in. Which we recorded just an hour ago.

Let's see if anyone has any name guesses. Aneo, me Austin, a mix of Korean and Spanish. Sorry, Aubrey. How do they talk this way? Aneo. They're probably like like like like on young. Yeah. Yeah. I would think so. Okay. Well, it's definitely not that. Any way man, any way is man Austin. No, James. No, bad. No, but that again, no Austin in the title. Very sorry. Let's see. Someone gonna get something if they guess it. Yeah, I'll send him a shirt. What else? I'm a shirter. Sorry. Man. What if one of you guess it? You get a shirt? I don't want a shirt.

A nightmarishly mild and chubby. Sorry, Kormick. I don't think that's it. No. That is dream logic, I guess. C.J. says, arts and entertainment. No. It's a great guess though. Entertainment. Yeah, I think that's a great, that's a great guess. These are guys, okay, we know Austin's not in the name. So that's a big one, right? Like, I feel like people are narrowing it down.

The spreadsheets and. Yeah, we really want to get the fucking name. Yeah, because we want to move on past this. I want to move on. I want to still call it in but we know what it's we need to come up with a new hook after that. Let me just like the content could be. Yeah.

It's pretty thin. Yeah. That's fair. Then and bitter like this is what so. Well, what a great way to end it. Yeah. I think that I think that I'll do it. You guys can follow us at Anima podcast on Twitter,

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Who we did at? What an odd year. Is it 23-3 in this? Yeah, this will be out like the first or the second or something. Oh, I hope you had a good New Year's Eve. Wow, it'd be 20 years, huh? A research, your teeth? Yeah, in April 2023.

Yeah, wow. 20, four years we've been doing this together, maybe? Yeah, yeah. Very easy. Well, keep the guesses coming. You can tweet them at Anima Podcast or send them into an Anima Podcast on Instagram. Do not send them to me.

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Okay. Amen. Okay. Well, thanks for listening. Okay. Amen. Okay. All right. Well, thanks. That was it. I said it. Yeah. Well, thanks for listening. Bye. Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples? Example. Together in Treppet hosts, German columns, German columns are free to deal with nothing to do with this podcast. Analyze various unsolved and rooster teeth's cryptic podcast, f*** face.

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