ANMA - Q&A with Geoff 2

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

Good morning, You. It's Geoff and Producer Eric back again with a non-canon episode of ANMA. Now that we have the name narrowed down, we get into a lil Q&A from you. A lot of music talk and some fun chat sans Gus. We're back next week with a new episode. Tell a friend. Sponsored by Honey http://joinhoney.com/ANMA, Mint Mobile http://mintmobile.com/anma, and Diet Smoke http://dietsmoke.com and use code ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We don't know. We haven't, this is how Batch Recording works. You're gonna have to wait another week. Yeah, you're gonna have to wait. As we'll, yeah, we're gonna have to wait a couple. We're, we have it worse. Por, you should feel bad for us. We have to wait like two weeks.

We do have it worse than the audience in this specific instance. Yeah, there you are. So you're welcome. Motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, that's it. We have all this. And I like, these are scrolling of a madman

And I don't know what we're gonna do But it's another supplemental episode because Gus can't be bothered to do more content doesn't have the Stamina no no for a weekly pod no for a weekly I shouldn't say that because he does do the RT podcast mostly. Doesnt have the stamina for an audio only weekly podcast. He doesn't have the stamina for anima. So, and that's just getting a cup of coffee with friends. I guess he just doesn't want to drive.

He doesn't maybe, do you think he doesn't like driving? He's always the one who drives. Do you think he doesn't like driving us? I don't know why he insists on driving. I'm happy to drive. And no matter if I drove the one time he yelled at me for wearing a cologne. Oh, that's right, I forgot about that.

We were in your car and then he yelled at you for your smell. Yeah, he smelled fine. Thanks, man. Yeah, I one squirt of cologne every day. That's what I do. But he said, he's a very sensitive to smells. He is very, very sensitive to smell. He always has been. I thought you always has been I thought he was made

I thought you guys were like making that up. No one time. I remember we read a bar And I think it was actually at the ritz where we were talking about a few weeks ago somebody maybe Becca or one of her friends sprayed Just like a body spray on him as a joke She's like and he like he almost died. I think he might have gone home. Oh my god. Yeah, he's just and he almost died. I think he might have gone home. Oh my God. Yeah, he's just, he can't take it.

Was this, he's gotten better. But I think he was more allergic to new younger. Was this like 2002 or something? Because it's like, there was, Yeah, probably. There was like an era where like those body sprays were like everything, everywhere, you could not get away from like melon crush or whatever.

That's what it was. It was melon crush. Yeah. It's like all I don't know. It was feel like a like American Eagle, Air Apostle and like Victoria Secret had like these sprays. You know what you want to know something interesting? Two of those three stores you mentioned still in the mall. Yeah. The mall is made me. Saw the other day. Oh, we gotta do, I forgot we gotta do mallets. We gotta do mallets, then. Yeah, probably after Christmas, because we gotta do the,

Yeah. Gotta do the tiny town. Have you seen Quizmice? Did what? Do you not, have you not heard this? No. Is it TikTok thing? So I know you're listening to this

and you're going, Oh, TikTok, I don't give a fuck about your opinion about TikTok or most other things. Leave me alone about it. Camila Cabello sings, so I'll be home for Christmas. Uh huh. I'll be home for Christmas.

I'll be home for Christmas. What the fuck was that? It is people on TikTok and they're just making shit like this. For the audience who can't see it, it's like a mouse filter. Oh, no, the quiz mice, when they hear this, she says, I'll be home for quiz mice instead of Christmas. And I can't stop thinking about quiz mice, dude.

Is that sounds like, like it's quiz mice sounds like the best like child-friendly like trivia show it is right. It's like it's like it's like kids jeopardy. That's such a better quiz mice for me quit that's such a better idea because where I went was bar trivia but with mice and You know how there's like chicken shit bingo? It's like that, but with mice. So you have mice answer trivia questions. I like that too. Yeah, I really like,

Quiz mice is such a great idea for like a kid shit. Like, dibs, man, I'm all about Quiz mice though. I can't stop, like I have like an illness where I'm changing other Christmas songs to Quiz mice.

Like so this is Quiz mice. I think I saw her... She's the one that sang the Havana song, right? I think that's her song. Havana one that's saying that Havana's song, right? I think that's her. Havana, Havana. Very popular, very catchy. I think I did like a YouTube event a couple years ago. I think she played.

They did like a concert we got to go to. And I think it was her and Ariana Grande, but she wasn't like, she wasn't the voice yet. Yeah. Austin FC has like a supporter section song that is based on Havana. Oh really? Yeah, it's very weird, but it sounds really cool with like the drums and then they change it to have like this big chant in the middle.

It's really nice. It's a cool song. Yeah, it is a cool song, but I do. I can't stop like. It's so you too. Don't get me wrong. By the way, I'm not a fan of you too. Yeah, I didn't, that doesn't surprise me at all. That at all.

If this is, this is a call back to the previous episode, which for you was a week ago, but it was 15 minutes ago. I'm with you that they got worse after Joshua tree. Uh huh. I just wasn't a huge fan of Joshua tree, but it's easily the most listenable album. Oh, I think it's fantastic. I think it has the hits right? It has to.

It has to. It's a good song. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I just think that their B-sides on that are so good. They're so good. And then Bono went, I'm a musician. And then they started doing the 90s electronic stuff

with he's like missophiles and like the fly, we like the big glasses. I, dude, I don't, that is like not my fucking speed. I'm always impressed with your music knowledge. I know, I listen to a lot of music. I don't know a lot about musicians outside of like my limited punk scope from my group. But like when you started naming members

of you two who weren't the edge, and you were beyond me. Oh yeah, well, yeah, when you don't name the edge in Bono, and you know it's... I bet you could name the other people in Black Eyed Peas. As I... Apple to app. Fergie.

Fergie's gone. Oh, that's right. Will I am? And then what's the other fucking guy? You got me with Apple to app. Fuck. What's the other guy's name? What is the other guy's name?

That's all right, I don't care. When I like music, I like music. I like getting into it and then finding out stuff about it and everything. They do these Spotify wrap up and all that stuff. And I know everyone's very excited about like, this is what I listen to. I think it's very self-aggrandizing. I don't enjoy it.

I don't like other stuff. What are that's like, what are you excited about? Are you excited about congratulating yourself on listening to a song? Yeah. More than another song? I think it's interesting to go like, oh, I must have really been into pop this year or metal or whatever.

But then people post that stuff because I think they want other people to see what they've been listening to and nobody typically cares. I don't need a wrap up to tell me that I listen to Steely Dan more than anything. Yeah, I don't need it. I don't, I have a pretty good fucking idea

that I could list my top 10 before Spotify got to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would not be that hard. For me, it was mostly out rock because I listened to a lot of out rock this year because I wanted to be very sunny and nice. And then a lot of, I mean, it's always a lot of Steely Dan for me though.

You know what, what 2022 was for me? I was, the other podcast we were discussing, we were gonna do like a, for, Office Day, we were talking about doing like a tops of 2022. So I kinda, I approached it from like TV and movies and music and stuff. And then I went in a different direction with it. But for me, it would probably be like,

22 was the year of ELO for me. Like I rediscovered ELO. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, and I'm not that I haven't lived with them all my entire life, but like, I don't know what it was, but in 2022, that band spoke to me, and I listened to them so fucking much. You ever seen them live?

No. Have you? Yeah, just listen to the record. Yeah. It is 100% the same. Really? Yeah. He's a producer.

Yeah. So he wants his music to sound like how the record does. It was great. I went with a few guys from AGA64, I saw him at the Hollywood Bowl. And it was really cool to see. We were the youngest people there by 30 years. Double your age, probably.

Yeah. And there was a woman in front of us, and she went, if I get a little too crazy, you just let me know. This stuff just takes me back to high school. Oh, boy. And we went, you have the most fun you've ever had tonight. And she had a great time. But they put hits and it sounds not sort of like the record.

It sounds like he put on the record and then stood there and made you watch him listen to the record. Like a millie vanilla. It is, girl, you know it's true. It is, it's crazy, but it's good, man. Like to be able to, I like having the spin of live music and seeing what they can do or whatever, but there's really something to it

when you can get a band to sound just like the fucking album. Yeah. That's crazy. That's pretty crazy. That's pretty incredible. I, you know, you're talking about how you guys were the youngest there by a country mile. So I did see when, you know, another call back to last week for the audience eight minutes ago. I did go to a concert a couple weeks ago.

It was actually a belated birthday gift, Millie from my birthday. She got me tickets. Us, I should say, the three of us, her Emily and I, tickets to see this band that I really, really, really like called Vox Trot. Oh, cool. That's awesome. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, I just find it to be interesting because they were a band for about 10 years, very good, from like 2000 to 2010 or so, somewhere on there, 2004 to 2014 in Austin.

Yeah. And I'd never heard of them I went to shows constantly. I was I paid attention to shows back then I would read I would get the chronicle to see the show list Yeah, and I just missed them for the entire run They were banned and didn't discover them until last year 2021 and Found out like the similarly to what you're describing with you too, where I was just like reading about them. I'd listened to them for a couple of months and I was like, why do I like to span so much?

I had to learn about them. I look them up on Wikipedia and suddenly I'm like, oh, in fact, this is for an Austin? Well, I was an Austin since entire time. Sorry man, they did a reunion tour. Millie got me tick, got us tickets. And we went to Mohawk, which I hadn't been to in probably five years.

And surprisingly, I was younger than a lot of the people there. I'm not gonna say I was one of the youngest people there at 47, but I was amazed at how many people that were there that were my age or older. Or people who were maybe a little younger than me that had a rough life and looked way older. But I think it was mostly people older than me. And I was part of the reason why you stopped going to shows,

at least in the scene that I was in, when I was, if I started going to shows about 15, and I stopped in my mid 30s, early 30s probably. And a lot of it is because you go to shows when you're 15, you go to punk shows, and everybody is like 19 and really cool. And then you're like 19. And then you turn around and you're 30

and everybody's still 19. And you just feel a little weird. Yeah, you're like, you're like, maybe it's just not my scene. Yeah, it's like, I don't even listen to poppy songs about high school anymore. Well, I'm trying to figure out how to pay my mortgage, right? That's right.

You kind of age out of that stuff. And, but I always assume that the audience is still young. But then I go to a Vox Rock show and I'm everybody's my age again and I was like, oh, maybe I can go to a couple of shows here and there because I'm not gonna be 30 years older than everybody and at least, yeah. Maybe that's what reunion shows are for.

That's, I think so. Like that's how it was when I went and saw hot snakes. Like, God, it was everyone right around my age or a little bit older. And the same like when I go see Rocket from the crypt, like in that, they play like once a year or whatever. And it's dudes that are older than me. The guys who were like 25 in 99,

who were like, you know, in like 94, they're just like, yeah, this is it. Like this band's gonna make it like that kind of thing. And so they're going to like these reunion shows. And it's cool. Like I like that stuff, but newer stuff is just not, that in festivals, it's just not for me. Yeah, I did the fun, fun, fun fest

for pretty much every year it was here just because, I don't know, I was still a little younger then, but and it was a festival done right. Yeah, although maybe if it had been a festival done right, it'd still be a festival, so maybe it wasn't, but yeah, I definitely like, I can't imagine going to ACL or on a road or Coachella or any of that.

It's not, it's just not for us and that's fine. Yeah. You know, I think that's, I don't wanna see, that's like the same reason South by Sucks. You don't wanna see your favorite band play 45 minutes and then get ushered off the stage to make room for the next 36 bands.

Yeah. I did that with, I really like the Hives, remember the stage to make room for the next 36 bands. Yeah. I did that with, I really like the hives, I remember the hives. Yeah, I like dives. They, I saw them when I, I mean, I've seen them live a handful of times, but it's on my Coachella in like 2012. I think it was 2011, 2011 Coachella. You learned Coachella. Oh, I went the two-pock year.

Did you go, were you, oh, that's right, you mentioned you, there. Were you dressed up like, like, Boho? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put on, I put on my culturally insensitive head dress and I got all the way to Coach Elevally. It, I don't like music festivals and that's, that's, that's, that's why. It can be the worst.

That's why we saw Childish Gambino, and it was with my friend Derek for megastix-thief-war, and he went, that's Childish Gambino, and I went, yeah, he's like, it's the guy for fucking Derek Comedy. Yeah. And he's like, I'm not gonna fucking listen to this. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That was the funniest assessment of Childish Gambino. That's the fucking guy from Derek Comedy.

People have some. People forget that they got their start on the internet. Insane. Derek Comedy, yep. They were kicking around the same time we were. They did better than us. They have careers like you see. They've done wildly better than we do.

You see one of the guys is like a commercial actor even still, like the thinner white dude, he's got like long hair and like kinda like a go-to or like a beard now or whatever, and you just see him and like commercials. And I'm like, that's fucking dare comedy guy. So funny. It's like the first time I saw,

I guess it was, I saw Ellie Kimper on her office run. Oh yeah, and I was like, that's the dry blow job girl. Yep, oh my god. Yeah, fucking crazy. That's moral, yeah. I mean, it's, but I think that's the dry blow job girl. Yep, oh my god. Yeah, fucking crazy. It's not normal. Yeah. I mean, it's, but I think that's kinda like being in LA versus Austin.

If you were in Los Angeles, then you have, or New York, you're more connected, more networked. All of a sudden you get these other jobs and these other works and then you make a barbarian like the guy from Whiteest Kids. I will, I think I have a Whiteest Kids you know made barbarians. Do you know that? I didn't know that. Yeah, I had no idea. Zach Kids. I will, I think I have a Whiteest Kids you know, made Barbarian? Do you know that? I didn't know that. Yeah, I had no idea.

Zach, whatever. Yeah, I really liked it. Yeah, he's like in it, I think real briefly. But yeah, it's, yeah, it's that crazy, right? Yeah, that's wild. I had no idea. I think I'll, part of it. It's not just being in LA, New York.

I think some of it too had to do with like a tremendous amount of talent on their part that maybe he doesn't exist. Nah, nah, nah, I think some of it too had to do with like a tremendous amount of talent on their part that maybe it doesn't exist. Nah, nah, I'm right. I've been around this thing. Like I've seen it land and I go, yeah, I couldn't do that. Yeah. That makes sense.

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Let's see. How about this is a, is a question from Casey. If you guys, the RT founders, had a halo free for all who would win. Who was the best at halo? Okay. So I'm, so we're including, I'm just going to throw the names out here. So I'm just Jeff Bernie Gus, Matt, Jason. Okay. Probably Joel, Kathleen, Yo Mary, Zayn. Like you play, I'm just gonna put it in the down. People that for founders.

I think probably Jason, I don't think anybody's chance to get Jason. Jason is very good. We found Jason and we became friends. I think we probably talked about it in that episode with him, but we found him because he was really good at land games. He was really good at like doom and unreal. Oh wow. Yeah, that's funny. And so outside of him, I hate to say it, Gus might argue with me, but maybe Bernie. Oh wow. Yeah, Bernie's played a lot more Halo.

Like, the fucking never make your, never make your hobby your job, right? Once we started making Red versus Blue, I stopped playing Halo. Of course. Because I was head bobbing Halo for 80 hours a week. The last thing I wanted to do was go in and play CTF. You wouldn't be able to hit anything. You'd be looking up and down to the chair.

I'm like, stop, I'm trying to talk to you. Stop shooting me. You're over here. Gus'm like, stop, I'm trying to talk to you. Yeah, stop cheating me. You're over here. Gus, Gus okay, not great. I'm terrible. Holms probably terrible. Holms really good at King Griffey baseball. I thought it.

The one from SAG, the one from SNES. Yeah, that's like his jam. Cano corn, that game. Cano corn. Fucking rules. I like when you hit a home run in that game and you're like, that's a bomb. That was never coming down.

It's like 402 feet. All right. That dude, Griffey baseball, I went to my friend Matt's house as a kid and we just played the fuck out of that game. There were like no other baseball players in it. It was Griffey and that's it. Insane. It had no concept of that as a kid. It had no, just didn't even think about it. It was just a kangaroo, junior baseball game. Weird. Yeah. Now I spend all my time on it. It was just a kangaroo feed you in your baseball game. Weird. Yeah. Now I spend all my time on it. And it will be the show.

Do you really? Yeah, fucking love that game. Really? Oh, I love it. It's really, it's, you know, you have like card collecting and everything. Yeah. It's the same thing, but digitally.

But you have to earn that. Like you grind to be like, oh, I want like, here's my team and it's compositive like all these different cards or whatever, but I really want this all-star, mainy machado. So I have to get to like X amount of XP to do. Now do you play as the Padres that you can create your own team. So you get cards and then feel them in their position.

Yeah, I mean, I'm just sure it's probably similar to how mad and then there's other games work, but like do you personally do you play as the Padres or do you do a creative team? I do a creative team, but my but Phillip with Padres. Yeah, okay. Yeah, like my... But Philip with Padres? Yeah. Okay. Absolutely. Yeah. Like my, my, my, my, my guy, put him at third and we're good there.

Okay. He can't play as Fernando Totti's junior in the game this year. It's very weird. He was in it until he took him out of it. Got to love those live updates. Yeah. It was like, he's suspended and it's like, you turn on the game and it's like, hang on just a second.

Live roster update and you go and you're like missing one card You had that card. He's suspended from video games. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. He comes back on 420 next year. Does he really? Yeah, what are the irony? That's fucking awesome Warm free one would hope that's right baby team with no worms Let's see let's see, let's see. Mm-hmm. Okay, this is from Andrew S. Do you ever have the urge or impulse to do some of the sillier things

that you did when you were younger, but now such a Saturday morning arts ails shenanigans stuff like that? So I think it's more, like less like, do you miss it and more like, do you ever have that people call it? Like do you introduce a thought, the idea, to do something like that again?

Not really. Not really. I think that a lot of the maturation process is doing those things to get them out of your system so that you no longer want to or have to do them anymore, if that makes sense. Yeah, it totally makes sense. Yeah.

Let's see. This is from Ricky G. I like this one. This is a very Austin-specific one. I like this question. What intersections in Austin have the longest wait for traffic lights in your opinion? Oh my God.

That's such a good question. I love that. It's so specific. I don't know if I could pick a specific intersection, but I live west and trying to go west to east is in fucking possible. It's pretty rough. It's pretty rough.

Yeah. I would say like, there are some lights, like around 51st Street, 45th, like that mid-Austin going that are just fucking take for it. A lot of lights on 45th, like that mid Austin, that are just fucking take for it. A lot of lights on Burnett, you're just like, what the fuck? What the fuck?

Up runny Anderson, sometimes you're just like, I didn't see the rest of my life, didn't you? I just gotta be sitting here in this left turn lane, all right? Oh, fuck, I take what it is. There's a fucking, I always drive by it. There's a H E B on Burnett. It's like a Burnett and I wanna say Keney, right? I always remember because there's construction everywhere

around it right now and it's been construction around it forever. And there's like a sign that says like making your streets safer and I don't know what the fuck they're doing to a sidewalk but they've been doing it for over a year and a half. And it's gonna be apparently the safest sidewalk on earth.

But trying to go left, right, or straight if you're going north on Burnett at Burnett and Canig, it's like pack a lunch. Yeah, okay, takes forever. Even when there's no traffic, there's traffic. And then you're just waiting at the light. Dude, yesterday, yesterday I was coming up Congress and I was going left at Caesar Chavez

and I got that turn right there. I got like that turn right there. I got past that turn, and then right past it is, I don't know, so over near like where the city hall is. And I sat in a fucking light there for two full light cycles before I could move. Then I got to move. The cars in front of me took off, so I take off. Then they slammed on their brakes, and I had to slam on my brakes in the middle of the intersection. And then I had to spend an entire light

in the middle of the intersection, which is the worst, because you look like the biggest asshole ever. But I was baited and switched by the people for, anyway. See, that's my pick, either Burnett and Canig or Cesar Chavez in Congress, right on there. Airport in Lamar. Airport in Lamar is bad.

Airport in Lamar is bad. Unless you're turning right, where it's like that little like yielding thing, where you kind of like turn, you know, go from like Airport in Lamar. Airport in Lamar is bad. Airport in Lamar is bad. Unless you're turning right where it's like that, like that little like yielding thing where you kind of like turn, you know, go like Airport to Lamar, if you're in any other lane going any other way, get fucked forever.

It is so gnarly right there. Absolutely go fuck yourself. I don't know why, I don't know why it's so, it's all cut up. I think it has, I think the anti-Austin detractor people would say it has something to do with the 800,000 people that moved here in the last 15 years.

Nah, I don't think so. No, that's not right. Ben Hogher. Great name. What would your music recommendations you have to listen to? So I guess like what have you been listening to? What would you recommend right now?

Yellow. Listen to a lot of yellow. Ah, fuck, uh, Tierra Wack is phenomenal. I've mentioned Polly G of Bunch, kind of on the end of like I'm the tail end of that. Hold on a second, let me look at my, okay, I'm gonna look at my Spotify. Great.

I recommend Johnny Paycheck, take this job and shove it, yeah, he has a bunch of other songs that are real good. Also recommend a band called Razer Nights that I've been listening to a lot of. It's a friends band, but man, it's fucking great. And then another band that I've been listening to a lot of is called Heroin. They had a album in like,

or they had like a lot of stuff through like the 80s and 90s. I've heard of that band. Yeah, they're great. That's a very cool, I really they had like a lot of stuff through like the 80s and 90s. I've heard of that there. Yeah. They're great. That's a very cool, I really like Erwin a lot and you can clip that and post it wherever you want. But raise your nights. Check out.

They have a new EP. That's a very good one. Uh, listen to the Gets. Oh, okay. And I've been listening, you know what? I've been listening to some old Aureum. I've been really digging old Aureum. I don't get it.

Really? I don't get it at all. I've tried. to some old Arian. I've been really digging old Arian. I'll get it. Really? I don't get it at all. I've tried. Boy's enough for me. New built a spills pretty good. You wouldn't think it would be. They've been around so long. It is.

I found this band called Say Hi from the early 2000s that I really like. Okay. There you go. I like it. These are good recommendations. Mean jeans. You ever heard that band?

Mean jeans? I have Mean jeans on vinyl. The fucking great. I've been listening to them all. Four coolers meal is a fucking great song. They have a song. They do a thing that if I had a band, I would do it every live show where one of their songs is ending and it ends with the riff of running down a dream. Where they just, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, and it just plays twice and then ends. There's another band that does that called Sloppy Boys. It's three of the guys from birthday boys, which is a sketch comedy troupe.

Okay. They have a band called Sloppy Boys, and they have a song called Hear for the Beer, and it starts like It starts with the drums from Weasers undone sweater song to do do do do do do do do do and then it goes into their song But I think that is the that is the funniest way to start a song and then running down a dream is the funniest way to Pandas song. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

I, more people should do that. Yeah. It's a great idea. Oh, snail mail. I really like snail mail. Oh cool. Everybody loves snail mail. Uh, I heard one, everybody loves Father John Misty.

Yeah. Not my scene, but I heard one song I liked. Which one was it? It's called Chloe. Okay. Uh, yeah, anyway. Cool. Amal and the Sniffers.

Jason Saldani turned on the rhythm. They're very good. Very Australian. Very, anyway. Cool. Amal and the sniffers. Jason Salda and you turn to them. They're very good. Very Australian. Very like that. That like bogeyny kind of thing. The thing that kills it for me, I like the music. It feels like such an act that it's really hard for me to like get into it.

Because boy, it feels like, hey, we're playing pretend with dad's money and it's like, all right. Cool. Just bother that., all right. Cool. Just bother that. I just bother. Oh, you know what else I've been listening to? A lot. Bridget Bardot had a lot of French music in the 60s.

Like French pop music. Oh, it's cool. I like Stumbleden. I like French music a lot. And like Jacques Braille and people like that. And so I was just like surfing around and I stumbled on this bridge of burdo song and it's turned me on to a whole bunch of like bridge of burdo music. I got to remember that.

That's cool. I don't know how to say it. Mwajizla. Huh. Red veil. Like red veil. I would drug dealers awesome. Hell yeah.

Drug dealers playing like this week, I think. Really? You're gonna go, I don't think so. Yeah, it sounds right. The Snoopy Christmas album, a Charlie Brown Christmas, that's what I recommend. Okay, there you go. That's what I've been listening to a lot of.

Hard to beat that. I love Snoopy Christmas. I think this is a good question. We're almost out of time, whatever. But it's a question from Jonathan. Do you think if Red versus Blue started now, would it be more successful or less in a modern online ecosystem?

Less. Absolutely. It's a, I don't know that it would, no, there's no way. There's no way. There's no way. And it's not just that it's like, oh, machinima is like this thing that was done, what, imagine there was no machinima.

Imagine if it never happened and then you guys were the first ones to do it. But now, there is such a glut of internet content that it is near impossible to find anything. And that was such a boom for, not just you guys, megastixie for was the same way, where it was like, this is like pre-YouTube shit. It just got passed around differently.

It made it to you differently. It's just not the same. Yeah, I mean, you talk about pre-YouTube. Yeah, pre-Facebook, pre-Auth, like red versus blue found success because slashedot and pinny arcade and fork who were, pininyarcade was the epicenter of nerd culture on the internet. Slash. was the epicenter of tech culture. Yep. And then Farc was what dig and Reddit are now at the time. And they were juggernauts on the internet at the time.

Yes. And it found success because those three places juggernauts on the internet at the time. And it found success because those three places linked it all at once, like pretty much on day one. And we just got such a tremendous outpouring of word of mouth support from that. And I just don't know how you could rise through the white noise.

Now, especially, you also have to understand that at the time there was traditional media ignored the internet and had no interest in it. So there was no competition from that end. Now we live in a very different world where I don't know how you could find success like that without corporate support these days. It really is, it's trying to think of the right wording for this. Without

making it sound like there's some sort of like snag back into it. You have to play to something like Reddit in order to be successful on what is probably the biggest sharing social site in the world right now. And when you start doing something like that, you sort of miss what you could be doing in making where I think a long time ago, 20 years, so 20 years old is a long time, especially in internet time. Yeah. You could make something that was different and people would gravitate to and grab onto. And niche is a very different meaning now than it was then.

Do you remember what was it? Stormtroopers, clerks like recruiters or whatever? Troopers, yeah. Yeah, that was the thing. It got passed around forever and always and all this stuff or whatever. That's just how the internet used to be. And I think if you start something like this

or start a lot of like these groups that have been successful in the past, you start it now to break through that noise is like it just has to be so hard. Yeah, I can't imagine. And the ecosystem is just so different now. And I hate to use the trope that like everything's been done before

because you could say the same thing 20 years ago when we made Red versus Blue, which was true, except it was on a new platform that had, it was pretty empty, you know? The internet, we always talk about how it was the Wild West, but it was kind of like a desert too, in the Wild West, like that was nothing, it was just fucking tumbleweeds,

and there were like, you know, happy tree friends and Mega 64, Penny Arcade, and a strong bath, right? Yep. And that's about it. It really is. You could find DeviantArt and you could find new grounds and you could find like these other things, but as far as heavy.com.

Right. Yeah. And like, you could find these something awful and like these other places, these smaller spots, but like, they were oasis where now it is a glut. Yeah, of this stuff. Yeah, I was, it's something that we talk about from time to time or in the past, I'm trying to talk about any of this stuff anymore too much.

But I think about like the rise of success, the early success of achievement hunter on YouTube and like was the special sauce, the content or was it the chemistry between the group and the argument I always make is that a lot of that mattered, right? It was a lot of right place, right time, right people. But also a lot of it was

and people will argue this, argue against me with this which is ridiculous, that we just didn't have the competition. And people go like, oh no, and they'll list the things, the shit I just listed to you. Like yeah, those things existed. That's not competition. No, we're talking about.

There are like 5,000 let's plays a minute get uploaded to YouTube now. That was not the case. There wasn't, it was, it was an anomaly, and it was a curiosity when we would put up a video back then. And there was competition. And eventually there were people like Maca guides who were putting out good, useful achievement

guides when we no longer were. But, but at the point when we started making stuff like Fails of the Week and Horse and all of these like early achievement Achievement 100 entertainment shows, they really, really, really, really wasn't competition. Yes, other people were making gaming related content on the internet, but not like today. If you want to look at the discrepancy or look at what that change has been,

when you play a new game and you get stuck, you don't go to GameFAQs and read a guide anymore. You type it into YouTube to watch a guy solve that specific puzzle in the game that you're stuck on in 30 seconds because that is what you've come to expect. And that is not what it used to be. Can I say something, Dushi? Absolutely.

I'd like to take a little bit of credit for that. Absolutely. I say do it. I would, I would. I would. Now, Craig, we were never the best, but we definitely popularized achievement guides in those things. And that's not to say that, like, if we hadn't existed, other people wouldn't have

and clearly did, and we haven't done it in years, but I would like to think that we were some of, that we were breaking ground there and showing that it was a possible medium and a way for people to get information and entertainment out there. And there are people that do it infinitely better than us and people that have carried the torch on. But we were blooming pretty large in those early days in terms of, I mean, that's what I wanted to do

with the Chief Monitor was making the video version of Gamefax. Yeah. And we did that for the first couple of years. And when honestly, at least in that regard, nobody else was doing that. Yep. Yeah. Well, that's a good Q&A. Other than that, that last question was doing that. Yep, yeah. There you go. Well, that's a good Q&A.

Other than that last question was really good. I think I knew where you were going with it, but that was great. Yeah, so cool. Well, if you want to follow us, can at Animal Podcast, we'll be back next week with actual content because Gus deems it worthy.

Hopefully we'll be at the, will either be at the mall or we'll be at the Tiny Time Christmas Village in my office. I'm excited. And we gotta, we'll have to do some fun episodes. We'll also know the name. Fingers crossed. So thank you at Animal Podcasts on Instagram,

on Twitter if you wanna follow us there, and you can make a guess as well. Jeff, any wise words, parting words for the folks at home. Save often. Pretty good. Here's the thing, what you do is you put a sticky note on your computer monitor that says, save. That's helped me in the past.

I just, I was so flat-footed on my, when you asked me last episode, I've been working on something. Good work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, cool. Bye, guys. Bye.

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