ANMA - The Future of ANMA

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

Good morning, Gus! It’s SXSW time and we head west to Mozart’s, a very popular coffee spot with pastries and tacos. It’s crowded but we find a good spot for Gus and Geoff to talk about Lake Fail not being real, Is this area any good?, Ceasing operations, Vegan shopping center, Smile bench, Food trucks, Geoff’s special parking lot, wary leery weary, Mega64, Best Halo to Machinimate. As always you can stay up to date with everything at anarchymeanything.com Sponsored by Henson Shaving https://hensonshaving.com and enter ANMA at checkout and Factor http://factormeals.com/anma50 and use code anma50 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Okay, this is ANMA78. Last time we were at Mighty Fine Burger we talked about how it's Rudy's, we talked about Lake Fail, talked about Dirty Martins, our first rated R movies, A Second Downtown, and more, but that's all last time. Interesting story, I posted this on the Anarchy Me Anything website. I did a little bit of research into Lake Fail, and I posted some background on it. Go to the website if you want to learn more. It was named Lake fail it was it appeared like that on Google Maps is just somebody played a joke the Google office was right across the street and one of the people there just named it Lake fail yeah I

think they're like if I remember right there last name was something fail well that's kind of like how DHT hot dogs and achievement hunter was the number one restaurant in Austin Even though didn't exist on Google. So if you'd like to read more that found like a reddit thread about it If you'd like to read more go to anarchy me anything calm But I'm pissed off what yeah, can we talk about the elephant in the room? I mean, can we just get outside? There's no the talk over I was terrible. It's inedible. It's it is it is unbelievable We're literally screaming this from the rooftop. It was I hope people hear me. So don't buy the breakfast taco. It's so

Insulting what they gave us it gave it straight in the fucking trash can and I'm Hungry me too. I had to throw away food. I couldn't eat. I'll eat taco deli tacos that have been sitting out for four hours at a coffee shop. Like I don't have high taste. The parts of the tortilla were like mush like it had been steamed

and spongy and then there were other parts that were hard like it was stale and it's been out for days. Yeah, I don't know how I've never had a bite of food that had those two conflicting textures in my mouth at the same time like that. It was it's they ought to be ashamed of themselves. And here's what's frustrating. It's South by week, right? So Austin is beset with about 300,000 very hip and cool people that Yeah, they're all here want to go to all the hip and cool places as it were. So they're here. There was a line. Yeah, there's I tried to come over the weekend. I don't even like this place, but my cousin and I were out bike riding and he was like let's pull in and get some coffee and we tried to but the line was down the road. I've always thought this

place was super mediocre but and I warned Eric ahead of time about the food. Everything here is kind of everything after this location is kind of mediocre. For sure, but I think there's one restaurant that I like. Really? Yeah. But, my fear is that all of these people are coming from all over the world. And this is their experience.

And they come to Austin, and they hear, go here, and then they try a breakfast taco, and then they go, is this what everybody's been talking about? Yeah, this is garbage. Is this what people keep recommending to me? Well, I'm definitely not going to try the barbecue now. If this is what the tacos are like, this is dog shit. I hate to derail you, but it's apparently south by Duck Week

as well over there. Oh. There is a flotilla of ducks on the lake over here. We're at Mozart's, which is a coffee shop at a place, I guess it's called Oyster Landing. There's a few different restaurants and stuff. It's on the shore of the lake right by the dam So there's always water here

It's nice. It's a it's a nice view, but I think every Place here gets by on the view if you're 20 and you're taking a girl on a date This is a great spot for that. Yeah, that is to me. That's what this place exists for We there's an old RT animated adventure from a million years ago where I tell a story about how we were taking Gavin out we're walking around and we were talking about the preconceived notions of Americans being like loud and obnoxious yeah and then a boat pulled oh yeah and a bunch of guys go we got the beer and they throw beer on

that fuck yeah and they like speed off listening to Metallica like ear blistering levels it's just right there like this is where we were yeah there's a duck adventure in the water over there it's a hybrid one of those hybrids have you ever taken one of those no a duck tour duck adventure any of this i used to hate him when i worked downtown oh also when roosterteeth was done i was thinking about my old job when roosterteeth was downtown because you'd be walking down the street and then they'd be going driving down congress and everyone would start quacking at you. It's not as cute as you think it is. It's actually quite annoying. Yeah I mean so we also there's a another popular place just kind of the next restaurant over

over here called Hula Hut which is like Chewie's Polynesian restaurant? Question mark? It's not very good. And as I'm going to disagree with Gus, I think Hula Hut's good. And it's no longer associated with Chewie's and hasn't been for a very long time. I should give it another test then.

So I read about the history of it because I've always known them to be the same thing, right? It was always like Chewie's, Shady Grove, and Hula Hut were like a threefer. Yeah. But I looked, they haven't been for quite some time. I think when Chewie's went corporate, the salsa is still the same, which is fucking awesome. Like they have the best salsa. But yeah, it's a lot of the food and the menus are the same because of their earlier association.

But I guess the guy who owned Hula Hut didn't want to be part of that didn't want to go down that road or whatever So split off and so it's still its own Independently owned thing that has nothing to do well with Shady Grove had done that cuz I miss Shady. I know I did like Shady best fringes on earth um so again hula huts in my mind one of those places you come when you're in your 20s cuz They've got big drinks, and it's cool. You and I used to come here every now and then. We should drink the Hoolala's. Big groups, yeah they would have a Hoolala which was like a big alcoholic drink in a fish bowl and yeah I think we both have probably puked off the pier back over there. I remember a

night we dared each other to drink a Hoolala and we were trying to see who could drink it first because it's like a five gallon or three gallon, like it's one of those round fish bowls. And I got so sick about halfway through, I was like, I'll be right back. And I ran outside and I threw up off the balcony and then came back in to finish the drink. And I don't think either of us finished that night, but I still kept going.

It was definitely things I would not do anymore. I don't ever want to do that again. No, no, no, I'm good. I don't have to do that because it's like sugar and alcohol and that's it What was the last time you had alcohol? Do you remember? Uh, yeah. Yeah, so I know you're not like sober I'm not I'm not you don't drink any I had a beer on a plane back in October. Okay Like if my rule is if I'm above 30,000 feet I can have a beer says the pilot. Yeah, but...

The planes I fly only don't go that high. Someone else has to be flying to get above 30,000 feet. So don't worry, it's gonna be all right. That's funny. Yeah, so that's my carve out. If I'm a passenger on a plane, I'll have a beer. But that's it. It's tough, though, because it's like,

ooh, that was really good, I could have another. Or, what if I what if I had a vodka or like something? Yeah I remember the feeling that's how I got into the mess Yeah, that's my car out but it's tough so that was in That's probably the last that was definitely the last time that's March now, so that's good five Yeah, however many months that is. Yeah, anybody knows that math. Yeah, I'll go Quite a while So the other elephant in the room Often yeah, I get it. We are timing for episodes could not be worse

Across the board my friend we recorded an episode last week, a day before it was announced that Rooster Teeth was ceasing operations in 60 days. So the whole episode just totally doesn't talk about that because there was no news about it. We didn't know. And now, by the time this episode comes out, it'll be like two weeks old. Yeah.

No one wants to talk about that anymore. No, no one even cares anymore. Yeah. The internet's moved on at that point. Uh, but I mean, and I don't, and honestly I don't know what we would have said or what would have come of it. I mean, other shows have put statements out. It's gonna be the same thing. We don't know.

There's a lot of questions up in the air a lot to figure out Yeah, I will say and I do think we should probably say this sooner than later the plan The loose plan which coming together as we speak very subject to change depending on many variables Because you'd be amazed at how many things in your life go wrong all at once when? This domino falls. Like we're all struggling with all kinds of shit right now. Seriously, last week was an insane week and Rooster Teeth going under was only part of it.

There goes that duck adventure. But the loose plan is that we continue. Like Gus, you and I have been friends now for 25 years. And I never see or talk to. Which is fine, it doesn't affect our friendship at all. Like you and I are the kind of people that if we didn't see each other for 30 years and we saw each other we'd pick up immediately like we hadn't missed a beat. But I don't want it to get to that and so part of why I started the podcast was to have an excuse for us to hang out. Absolutely. That's more important than ever to me because as Rooster Teeth unfolds or winds down all the people in our universe are gonna start scattering to the wind and it's extra important

for me to hang on to the relationships that matter and there's none that matters more than ours and so if this podcast or a version of this podcast is the only way to maintain FaceTime with you then there's no way this regular cadence yeah there's no way I'm gonna stop it There anything okay with their mr.. Producer. I think so. It's just it's the light is so you can't see it here, okay? Yeah, I know what you felt the other day when I was looking at it. No. Yeah, I totally I totally get that I think I was always kind of then I've always been kind of someone who is okay being alone. I like it. Yeah, you know I And I've always been kind of someone who is okay being alone. I like it. Yeah, you know I you know people talk about like how how awkward it is to go to movies alone or go to eat alone

I love that I go to movie alone. I Go to a restaurant eat by myself So I think that and then doing wrist you for 21 years just exacerbated that yeah and made it way Even more so because you know I as someone who's naturally an introvert, you spent, because of the job, we spent a lot of energy trying to combat that. Going out and meeting people, doing events, and putting on that extrovert hat.

So I think doing this for 21 years has made the private introvert me even more so. So it's tough. Absolutely, it is tough. And it's only gotten tougher as I've gotten older because now the longer we do it, the more of a presence you have in the world, the more recognizable you are.

And so the more people approach you, which is great, which is awesome actually, but for introverts, like yourself and I, it gets a little harder as we get older. And so we have to work a little bit more, I think, to maintain relationships. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, like you said, we're going to we're going to figure out a way to continue.

We just don't have any news or know what that is. Yeah. If it sounds vague, it's because we we have to be because we there's just so many things out of our control because it's vague. Right. It's our futures are vague right now. I don't know. Like if it's unsettling to you or frustrating. I Promise you it's doubly so It is I'm not the kind of person that does well without control and not getting to be in control and not having a Rigid plan in front of me that I can follow at my speed

You know and like there's a lot of hurry up and wait right now It's like being in the army again a lot of like just waiting for other people to make decisions about my future and my life and so it's it's a it's a bit maddening, but I'm not gonna let this stop. Yeah, I Hear you same same All right, that's it for this episode Same. Same. Um, all right. That's it for this episode.

Uh, no, no, no. Uh, so most back back to the topic of Mozart. Yeah. It's out like in kind of west of downtown, right? Like if you take one of those streets from downtown and just keep going west, you eventually end up out over here. Yeah. Take Lake Austin Boulevard, which is essentially Cesar Chavez. No, 6th Street, 6th Street, I guess,, take Lake Austin Boulevard, which is essentially Caesar Chavez. No

Sixth Street, Sixth Street, I guess turns into Lake Austin Boulevard depends on the mo pack. Yeah You'll pass Redbud Isle on the left. It's awesome. You should check that out if you get a chance And then yeah, you keep going and you end up out here at oyster landing, which is really really nice I lived not too far from here down Lake Austin Boulevard a little east of here over by where the HEB is now It used to be a Randalls back then. I lived there for a while. It's like a very hoity-toity part of town. Yeah. I rented that house. I've talked about it before. I rented it from Mahdi's, the restaurant. But there was a shopping center up Exposition a little bit. I think it's Exposition in Windsor, if I remember right. I was pointing that out on the way down here. It's where the Austin Pets Alive is and the beer plant that

That shopping center is owned by someone who's a vegan and she only leases To people to businesses that are animal friendly or don't use animal products. Like that's why the beer plant is there There's a vegan grocery store called they're called rabbit food grocery. Austin Pets Alive is there The holiday house used to be there used to be a holiday house there a long time ago, but I believe that's why she didn't renew their lease way back then. And it's like someone who, but someone who like, I guess, really sticks to their convictions.

But I guess, you know, it's easy when, if you can afford a strip mall in Tarrytown, you probably don't have to worry about making the rent every month. Yeah, the most expensive part of town. And it's just like, I'm picking the litter here the most expensive part of town. Yeah, it's just like I Pick a litter here. It's fine. Yeah, wow, that's crazy. Let's uh, yeah, it's uh, it's I Admire it but man, that's a that's a that's a commitment. Yeah to uh to not wanting money. You ever go to those places

Oh, yeah, I go to that grocery store quite a bit. Maybe you're playing. I've been to the beer plant also quite a bit Not so much Austin pets alive, I've got a dog already. I'm good. You can get more. Nah. Come on, do your part. I'm good. This one's already expensive enough.

Don't you want all of this to fall apart and then you all have dog problems at the same time? No, I'm good. But yeah, I like those businesses over there. But I don't know, I guess I'm rarely on this part of town. If I'm here, it's specifically to go to those places there's like even the stuff the other stuff over here like the HGP which is like I think the newest HGP in town there's a million other HGP's closer to where I live that I'd go to before this

one. I if I'm over here it's one of two reasons to me they're on my bike because I go to Redbud Isle a lot on my bike a lot it's a you know how like I have in in the fuckface lore I have a my bench that I go cry at in the park, at Zilka Park. Red Butt Isle is my smile bench. That's where I go when I'm in a good mood to sit and not cry. But also right over here on the other side

where the boat ramp is, that's where we do a lot of jet skiing from. Like one of the dudes that we rent jet skis from rents out. Sometimes they're under 360, but sometimes they're here, and then we just like they move around They're not in like the same spot no no because they're just throwing them in the water and then written them to people it is a totally Oh, so he doesn't have oh gotcha. I figured it was like a business you went to I think they pay like a daily slip fee and they put their like six jet skis in the water I think it's probably just a guy with some jet skis. He's like yeah, you can run for me Tony

It's not Tony, but it's very similar Yeah, it's like back in the day like food trucks to drive around you don't follow him on social media You gotta follow him on social media find out where the jet skis are right But doesn't that make sense for food trucks to go to be mobile and not to be in one fucking place the whole time that Doesn't make any sense for a food truck. Yeah. Yeah, I hate that Yeah, I think that was like at the very inception of food trucks, you saw that, but they stopped that. It bothers me so much that they are in,

yeah, here's this food truck park, this is where we are all the time. That's just a restaurant. That's a restaurant. And it's not even a good restaurant. It's a more expensive restaurant that I have to go sit at fucking park benches at. Just because it's not literally made from brick and mortar

Doesn't mean it's not a brick exactly that's how that's how it feels and so when people here talk about like yeah, man We got like this food truck scene. It's like these don't go anywhere These are just places I have to go to hate this there's a food truck park I drove by up on North Lamar the other day. It's like past 183 not quite all the way to run burgers on the east side of Lamar it was a little food truck park that had a big sign by the road because you had to drive through a parking lot to get there. And there were a bunch of food trucks all parked around. And they signed by Lamar advertised

Mexican, Honduran and Chinese food. I was like, hell, yeah. I want to go check that out. Then there was a sign, like one of those flashing illuminated signs by the by the food truck park that in Spanish advertised a playground for kids My okay cool cool my first roommate and friend in the army was Honduran and he was the horniest man I've ever met in my entire life

All he did was talk about women all day long. He was also like 18. No, he was probably 30. He was yeah, he was he was he was using the military to get citizenship and like he had been in the Honduran military for a long time and then man he had a crazy story about joining the Honduran military too. He said like back then this is in the 90s and so he was older than me so I think he was in the Honduran military in the mid 80s, he said he and his friends, you would just have to dodge the military, because they would just grab you and take you.

And he said one time, he and his friends went to a movie when he was about, I think 18 or 19, and he said they walked out the movie theater into the back of a truck. That was just dude, like waiting for him, and then he was just like, I'm in the army now, and that was how it happened. He was just like, didn't go home that night,

my mom didn't know if I was dead or in the military. Yeah. That's wild. Anyway, that dude loved, loved, loved love. That dude loved love. I think about him all the time still, even though that was 18. This wasn't the dude who typed

sloppy pussy into the internet, was it? No, that was years later. This dude was way cooler than that than someone left that comment on the message board on the animal website by the way someone just type Sloppy pussy that's like that's funny got it awesome His name was Hacobo That's cool. Never heard that name before Hacobo. I guess it's like Jacob. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay Yeah, I could say his whole name, but then we'd have to believe no no no that's why I Hakobo? I guess it's like Jacob. Ah, okay. Yeah. That was his name. Maybe it's bigger than Honduras. Yeah. I could tell you his whole name,

but then we'd have to believe it. No, no, no, that's fine. I also don't want to know it. Yeah. I feel like I would be liable for something if I knew his whole name. Only for the next seven weeks. Yeah.

That is Lord of Brothers' problem. Then we can do whatever we want. Yeah. I've been trying to, you know, be around, talk to people, lift people's spirits at the office. And I think it's always disarming when I make a joke about how much time we have left. Yeah, I know. I think hopefully people are okay with that. I made a couple of jokes on the, on the, this is not a goodbye stream that people took way too seriously.

I feel like I realized maybe I shouldn't be making any jokes right now. Yeah. You gotta be very careful about about yeah all speculation right now Oh, yeah, well all I was saying is that somebody said something about an unbleeping face, and I said I don't care We don't know that anymore. Yeah, we don't we never did. Yeah, it's all it's been rooster teeth Yeah, or Warner Brothers, but all I was saying is that like it's their property. We may take it We may not we have all that shit to figure out out but man people really ran with that for a second Yeah, well, yeah, they're um they're trying to get any kernel of information from anything understandable any conversation

Can I just walk back a little bit and say? You're at the office lifting spirits. Yeah, yeah a lot of people down in the dumps I was at the office just crying and hugging people right that was lowering spirits of anything I just picture you a picture Gus walking around like doing a cartwheel and being like hey what's up? It's me Zany Gus. We're like a squeaky Robert Reddow Seven weeks. You're like you're like when Robin Williams went to visit Christopher Reeves Hey, it's me, Patch Adams! Oh man, oh that's fucking great.

You know me, I'm zany, I'm wild, I'm wacky. I make people laugh for a living for 21 years. I'm a comedian. You describing yourself as someone going to the office to lift spirits is so funny to me. It's so funny. Well, it's uh It's not too hard these days That doesn't take much Anything so this area I guess

Has it always been like The parking socks is that what you're getting that yeah Like it hasn't always been this crowded right it has well I guess it used to be easier to park down here but it's still the parking lot itself is so tiny here it does it's not nearly enough to support all of this there's a place across the street over there that there's a very tiny sign telling there's more parking over there by the LCRA building but most of the time you have to go over there we ran someone off that was pretty

awesome but it's always been bad down here yeah it's always been dog shit I just remember that especially here if you come in and you turn in front of Mozart's if you take that right there's no other exit out on that side right so if you come in this way you gotta turn around you gotta try to figure out how to turn around and invariably someone will come in behind you way too close and then there's not enough room to do it. It's I hate coming down on this side There's a parking lot up here. Yeah behind those trees where most people park and then walk down the hill When I just I just had this memory

It just blew me away. I'd forgotten about this. I live in Austin because of that parking lot really I think so I mean for a myriad of reasons, but because of that parking lot. Really? I think so. I mean for a myriad of reasons, but when I was living in New Jersey, after I'd gotten out of the army, and I was doing like,

I was trying to get in with V.O.S.Q., I was PA'ing and stuff, and then I was working at the video store as it was going under, and then I was roadieing also for that Scott Punk band, Catch-22. Yeah. And we were on tour,

and it was like December 11th and I had been in the army at Fort Hood, so I was pretty familiar with Austin. So I remembered this area and the guys were like, where's a safe place for us to sleep in the van tonight? And I went, oh, I know, I think I know a place that's kind of tree lined and it would be safe. And so we lived in the van in that parking lot for

Like two days because we had like two shows here. Yeah, and so I spent like two nights Parking in that parking lot and every day we'd get up and it would be like 70 and 70 degrees in the morning Because it was December in Austin so it's beach weather. Yeah, and I was wearing like a t-shirt and I was thinking There's like black ice everywhere in New Jersey. Yeah, why the fuck Am I gonna live in New Jersey when I could live here? And I was already in love with Austin because I'd been here for a couple years in the army.

And so there were some other stuff that happened that caused me to also wanna move. But when I made that decision in the parking lot that day, I was living in Austin like six days later. I flew home. Loaded up your stuff, came back. My first wife had cheated on me, I found out as as well and so we needed to move out of New Jersey That was a big thing too, but I was like fuck it

We're moving to Austin and so we packed up everything we had and moved to Austin and if I hadn't stayed in that fucking Parking lot for two days and worn a t-shirt for in December. I might not live here Do you record this can we take a photo of it and post on social media? The parking spot sure yeah happened. Yeah, I do Yeah, that's a it's a big parking lot up there. I think so This is the these buildings are heads the LCRA. It's lower Colorado River Authority They regulate I guess like the lake levels and they do they have awesome

like camping shit you can rent to What yeah LCRA has like campgrounds and stuff you can rent out around town like especially over on the east side Oh really really great places to camp. I didn't know that I didn't know that either. Yeah. Yeah, LCRA has like campgrounds and stuff you can rent out around town. Especially over on the East Side. Oh really? Really really great places to camp. I didn't know that either. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. You just go through them and you can rent this stuff out? Yeah. Just like you go to like a state park. Huh. They manage a lot of campgrounds. Oh that's crazy. I'd never even heard of that. I've never heard that acronym or anything. Millie went to like an overnight LCRA camp one year. Really? Yeah. Wow.

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I got an episode a comment here. I'm gonna read Okay, right now on the episode. This is a I got a message from Cameron from Cameron It's a person we work with. Yeah. Yeah Cameron at RT. Yeah. Okay per ANMA Mayo's come up Mayo commercials is an industry thing. Okay Oh, okay cool was in LA for a shoot last year and was walking around downtown on an off day. Came across a street that was shut down for filming and wanted to check it out. I think it was for Marvel's Miss Maisel. All 50s, 60s era vintage cars, a ton of extras and period costumes.

I asked the PA what show they were filming and he told me it was a mayo commercial. Oh. There you go. Alright. It figures that it would be an industry thing and a local thing. Yeah, definitely. Makes sense. So thank you, Cameron.

Thanks, Cameron. Good enough for me. Yeah. Okay, great. So there. That thank you, Cameron. Thanks, Cameron. Good enough for me. Yeah. Okay, great. So there. That was our big burning question from last week. That's good. No hanging chads as we wrap up this podcast.

Yeah, that's right. That's a timely reference. That was pretty good, man. Way to go. Two, 24 years ago? Right on. Hell yeah. That's great.

Hell yeah. Welcome to ANBA. Isn't that what this podcast is? I mean, man, if you were going to make a reference, that would be it. We talked about voting in that election, like last week or two weeks ago. So yeah, it is very timely for us. I went and I voted. Oh, I did too.

Yeah, they ran out of stickers and people were upset. Really? Yeah, I just, I printed my thing out and then slid it through and the guys like, we don't have stickers. I don't care, I'm fine. And I left. Like it's cool, man.

It's all good. I left a sticker on a shirt. One of those vote, I voted stickers on my shirt once and I, it went through the washing machine and dryer sticker on a shirt. One of those voted, I voted stickers on my shirt once and it went through the washing machine and dryer and when it came out, the sticker came off but then there was like an oval of like stickiness that was embedded in the shirt.

I eventually did but it was a pain in the ass. You like squirt it with Goo Gone or something? Yeah and then like soak it for a long time. It eventually came out but man that sucked. So. Remove your stickers. I'm very skeptical. I'm very wary of the stickers now.

I put mine in my wallet. Yeah. That makes sense. You don't have to even watch that. I try not to. Does it bother anyone else, the constant misuse of the three words, wary, weary, and leery?

Yeah, oh, yeah, me and Jeff are just talking about that. Nonstop online. Ooh, and me and Jeff are getting so mad about it too. People use those three words almost interchangeably, and invariably they pick the wrong one every time. It's a whole there, there, their situation, but these are three totally different words. I can't remember the last time I've read somebody say they were leery of anything. Yeah, because they say they're weary of it now.

Why would they say that? I don't know, because they want to sound smart, and they use the wrong word. Hmm, and two of those words are very similar I they still managed to make it fuck up. I tried to say some right now I'd be wary of anyone who uses weary for leery Why is that? I would be leery of it. Oh, I would be jeery I would be jeery as I am right now. Where did this come from? This is just a thing? This is just a thing. He said be wary of the sticker and it made me think about how mad I was about this.

At least you didn't tell him to be leery of the sticker. Be wary of Gus. I'm weary of this conversation. Be leery of dog. I just hate it. I just like, I don't know, in general, I know language changes. But this is right. I can't. These are like three words. I mean, different. Right. This isn't changing language. This is people just using it wrong. But then it becomes adopted. Yes. And it becomes standard and becomes accepted. I do think with with

changing language, it's the way that do you remember because we've been on the internet for so long how Important it was for everyone's grammar to be so fucking perfect when you were in an online argument Oh, yeah, you don't give them an opening and if you had any bad grammar boy, you're getting sunk Yeah, I think it's just because the grammar used to be important. It used to be internet I held social media and the internet killed the grammar It used to be so like crucial to write that way and now it's not. Now that seems very like strict and like you're upset

to use a period at the end of stuff. If you didn't use proper grammar when I was growing up, up until the internet, like pre-internet, if you didn't use proper grammar, you looked stupid and it undercut everything you said. Right, you lost. Now, if you use proper grammar you looked stupid and it undercut everything you say. Right, you lost. Now if you use proper grammar people think you're being aggressive and an asshole. It is so fucking weird the flip on that.

Let's litter those literati. Is that Simpsons reference? Yeah, totally Simpsons. Everything is a Simpsons reference. I realized, my wife and I were talking the other day, we realized at some point in our life we became Homer and Marge and didn't realize it. It's like you go from being young, and well no, you go from being young to like, you start watching stuff and you're like, oh I'm the old person now.

Like I'm on the other side of it. I'm the adult in these. Well that's what Abe Simpson says, right? It used to be with it. Yeah, and then it changed. Yeah. Yeah. There's a tattoo. Derek from Mega64 had an idea for a tattoo.

And somebody actually drew it, and we got stickers of it. That is, it says it'll happen to you or whatever. And it is like the sands of time in like a clock and it is the top is Bart in the sands go down into Homer And it's like oh, that's fucking genius I love it. That's so I mean that really is we've had that conversation a lot at mega 64 where it was like Oh, yeah, we were all Bart Simpson and now we're all Homer and there's nothing you can do about it That's just what his grandpa. Yeah, you got gotta put off becoming grandpa as long as you can. Yup, yup.

So speaking of which, I'm actually glad you brought up Mega64. I wanted to touch on them very briefly. You know, we're closing shop after 21 years, just over 21 years. And I think we have the high score on the internet for now. Yeah. But after we close shop in several weeks, you know, Mega64 will very quickly pass us. They started right pretty much the same time we did. I think maybe just a couple of months after us. I don't know. I don't remember exactly when, but they will

very quickly pass us. And I'm glad it's them passing us on the on the on the leaderboard. And you know, I think it's just a reminder to everyone. If there's content, especially independent content you like on the internet support it Yeah, go subscribe to mega 60 horse patreon go buy some merch from them and you know, it's it's not enough just to watch their stuff You know give them some financial backing make sure that they're still around I want them to be firmly entrenched just now if anyone's gonna beat us I want it to be them and I want it to be a good lead I think I think that's an incredibly important thing you just said like

Seriously if if there are content creators out there, and I'm not talking about What Gus and I do next or face going on or face jam or any of this stuff? I mean I am to a degree But I'm speaking more broadly if it's if you love the are you garbage podcast or crime junkie or whatever it is that you're into I realize I just picked crime junkie, which is like the most successful podcast Or whatever it is that you're into I realized I just picked crime junkie, which is like the most successful podcast If you're a fan of the Dateline NBC podcast if you like this American life But no if you like the cult podcast the thing that Armando does or whatever

It is no longer enough just to listen or watch and if you don't want to see independent creators Go the way of the dinosaur you gotta support them. I'm gonna make sure that for the rest of my life I do at least I try to and I hope to and and I hope other people will because I mean it's a bummer for us to lose our Our whole job and our career and our jobs and all of the people in rich teeth That are going through this right now And I don't want anybody else to have to go through it unnecessarily

Yeah, I really don't but also I mostly just wanted to say I agree with you. I love mega 64 I can't think of anybody. I would want to see succeed past us Yeah, more than them and I would be honored to get to be second place to them in the longest running thing Yeah, 100% been doing it and doing it right the entire fucking time I knew they took it seriously that recently was shutting down when they weren't online making jokes about it right away I was shocked I think that they were very when I talked to them and everything they were pretty stunned and I anticipated a little bit I got like there was nothing they didn't throw anything out there, and I just went. I think they're set yeah

They were always our best friends in the in the industry mm-hmm really really love those guys Oh, I mean and goddamn if we didn't if we didn't develop a relationship with them. We wouldn't have you yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I'm lucky to have benefited from that whole thing and At mega 64 has only become more successful since I left and then I came here secret sabotage stuff Yeah, you destroyed us yeah, yeah in from the inside and then now I can slink back your master plan. Yes Yeah, finally. That's what I put my life on the line for it. It's a whole departed situation going on. Now I'm really thinking about it. I'm not sure why I did it, but it's done. Yeah, it's a, I think there's a lot to be said for independent creation,

staying at a size that is manageable. But, but, but you have to have Those people who take the bigger swings who tried to achieve a little bit more who try to go a little bit further Who try to overreach just a little bit? Because if you don't everyone's going to stay at a very small level and you're never gonna see growth in that medium Yeah, and when you look at people like giant bomb or like rooster teeth or or whatever, you can't look at, oh, it's over, man, that thing sucked and now it's over. And it's like, oh man, this is probably the job I've worked at the longest without quitting. Been here six years, something like that.

And it's a long time to have a company stay in business before going out of business and that doesn't make it a failure It means that the company just went as far as it was gonna go. Yeah, and that's success that That to me 21 years of success that success. That's a long time the company change the internet landscape change a lot of things change and But we are every day for 21 years and we're where we are. Every day for 21 years, Gus and I, and a hell of a lot of, a hell of a lot of really passionate

and driven and talented people, and then also Michael, got up every day, and our whole job was to just to make people laugh. And we didn't succeed every day. Maybe some days we missed the boat, but it didn't... It wasn't because of the effort. Every single day, everybody poured everything they had into just trying to make the people that were interested in watching it laugh for a little bit. And I got to do that for more than two decades.

Like when I was growing up, we talk about this a lot, generational changes, when I was growing up, you worked at a company for 20 years and then you retired. The army, if I'd stayed in the army for 20 years, I would have retired. At 37, here I am at 48. So it's like, it's hard to look back at 21 years of getting to wake up every day and go to work

with the best people you've ever met and get to be as creative and support the creativity of those around you and all with under the all with the simple idea the simple goal of Just making somebody else's life a little brighter for a little while. Yeah. What the fuck, man? We're the luckiest people on earth. 100%. Absolutely. Yeah. Like, it's hard to look back at... it's hard to look at the uncertainty of the future for us and for all of those affected. But it's... and that's scary, but it's hard to look back at the last 20 years and think of it as anything other than maybe the biggest success I. I'll ever be a part. Oh, yeah. Yeah for sure. You know for sure

Yeah, I think you know I meant mention this you know in the past What's like so you know this will have run 21 years in another 21 years? I'll be past retirement age like this will be the longest trunk of my life. Yeah I've dedicated to anything. Yeah. Where I like for the... And I'm not letting you off the hook. You're still going. We're still doing this. Yeah, we gotta figure this out. There's an end the next week. Yeah. We got a few more guys. And then who knows where we take it from there. I think a thing that Derek from Mega64 had said, they did a keynote speech at PAX one year. Which again, another thing that like you take those big swings and keynote speech at PAX one year, which again, another thing that like,

you take those big swings and look at what PAX is compared to what Penny Arcade is and everything. You have like those larger things and you know, it's interesting to see, but a thing that Derek said was like, when you're independent, like Mega64, you're employed every day that you choose to be employed. When you're independent, every day that you wake up and you go, yep, I'm doing it again today.

That's employment. And when you're at a company like this, like what Rooster Teeth became, like the size of it and everything, it didn't have to be a yes every day thing because it became sort of like this larger thing. But I think what we found in a lot of that stuff is the stuff that we love to do to wake up

and be like, I wanna do this thing today. This is the thing I wanna do today. And that's why I'm excited to see what's next and where we go and et cetera, et cetera, what plans are next and everything. Because I'm just, I'm excited to say yes to a lot of stuff and see where we go. It's freeing in a way.

It is, it is. I mean, it's not that this was a shackle in any way, but you hear a term like golden handcuffs and it is hard to turn down a paycheck. Yeah. But at the same time, like sometimes you need a little bit of a kick to go, all right, what are we doing now? And that's what we're going to figure out. Yeah, yeah. I, I also think, too, like if you look at it and it really,

it really helps moments like this really help helps internally elucidate your own priorities and passions, right? I also think too, like if you look at it, and it really helps, moments like this really helps internally elucidate your own priorities and passions, right? Because Rooseteeth has a little bit longer to go, we're winding up in May or whatever. We don't have to continue to make Anma. Like if I had texted you this morning and said, I'm not into this, we wouldn't be doing it.

Totally anticipating you guys this weekend saying no. To do it next week or the week after or the week after. We're still gonna get our severance and the whole thing. So we're here making Anma. I got up this morning and took a shower because I was excited to come and do this again with you guys. And it really helps me realize,

I could fold up shop and quit and go try to figure out a new life that has nothing to do with entertainment. And I'd have every right to do that. And I don't think anybody could begrudge me for doing that. But instead I woke up and I thought, alright, that chapter's closing, how do we build the new better chapter so that we can keep doing this? Because I just want to do this with you guys. Yeah, I was really odd last week, you know, the news came out on Wednesday and we had

a Stinky Dragon recording on Thursday and you know, the news was, came out on Wednesday, and we had a Stinky Dragon recording on Thursday. And, you know, I got together with the crew Thursday morning, and I was like, hey, you know, if you guys don't wanna do this, or if you wanna wait, you know, delay, take some time to process, like, we don't have to do this. We can push it, we can wait, we can figure it out. And every single person without hesitation was like,

no, we're recording today. Like, this is the thing I look forward to. This is the thing I'm passionate about. Like, let's go do this. And it was one of our best recordings, I think. We did the same thing for Face Jam. We just did an episode, like, the day after, and it was like that.

Oh yeah, it was that day, yeah. Yeah, we walked out and went like, that was a good fucking episode. Like, it was fun. It's great. I felt the same way with F***face. Like, I left the recording of F***face to drive in to do the, this is not a goodbye stream.

And it was like, it really helped going into that stream, too, that we had had an hour together to laugh and be cathartic. It's fun and so I'm excited about what we do next and who knows what it is and stay tuned for updates at Anima podcast or probably maybe our personal socials but you know we'll figure that out. AnarchyMeAnything.com! Hey I built a platform for us! That's true AnarchyMeAnything.com! I think it's time to dust off the under construction yeah no kidding good is gonna get I will say I this I updated the website with the most recent episode this morning and I was like hmm I could fix the numbering on the archive but that seems kind of point yeah let's talk about Mozart's because we're kind of winding down on time I feel like we

did no no let's talk about Mozart's I we're kind of winding down on time. I feel like we did no no let's talk about Mozart's I Got the regular black coffee you got the cold brew that that is like a thing that they have on the board Yeah, that is like such a thing they have it's like a marquee. Yeah, yeah That was like one of like three things that are like we have this This is what we're known then you got the Americano that took an hour to get. It took a long time. It took a, they went like, oh fuck, we gotta like do coffee?

An Americano, what's that? And then you guys each got tacos and I got a blueberry muffin. What kind of tacos did you get? I got a bacon egg and cheese taco. And then you got? Mine was potato egg and cheese. Okay, and so what'd you think about the coffee?

Coffee is a six. This Americano is better than I expected. Wow, really? It's not amazing. Yeah. This is not all gimmicks level Americano. This is like a six and a half or a seven. This is unacceptable Americano.

There's nothing wrong with it, but it's not amazing. It's totally fine. I would say this black coffee is like a six and a half. It's fine. It's good. I got. So when you buy the black coffee here, they don't pour it for you They go here's your cup and then there's like carafe's yeah off to like the side and they have a dark roast They have a medium roast and then they had their light roast which I was excited about and their light roast South by Southwest rest the one that we made fun of on the way in we've got a special South by

blend on the table as you wait in line and I had it and it's If I had if I'd never been here before and I had that coffee, I would be like, oh, this looks pretty good. It's fine. But going to a place and getting this coffee, I'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah. They mixed a couple different beans together just in time. That's awesome. Isn't that great?

That's great. The music just started. They're playing our theme song. They're playing us out. We can get an anarchy question, but I think that music means we have to wrap it up. They're playing our theme song. They're playing us out. This is, um, we can do, we can get an anarchy question, but I think that music means we have to wrap it up. They're playing me off. Yeah.

They're telling me to wrap up. I actually really like, I like this question. This is why I want to ask this. This is, you can send us questions, r slash animal podcasts, which is a subreddit we don't run, at animal podcasts on socials. This is from fill the hammer 02. What happened to fill the hammer 01?

I don't know. He's done. He got hammered. Back when you guys were more heavily involved This is from Phil the Hammer 02. What happened to Phil the Hammer 01? I don't know, he's done, he got hammered. Back when you guys were more heavily involved with RVB, which Halo game was your favorite to work with? It seems like the DVD commentaries as well as my own experience, they all had pros and cons for Machinima. Do you guys have a favorite? Absolutely. Yeah.

Really? My favorite was the original combat evolved Jeff shaking his head no, hello three really yeah, why just it was just a Easier to machinima then I don't know like I halo one is the was a Lot of fun. Oh, hello to sucks. Hello to suck to make mission. All right. Yeah, which was was the most difficult It was the most difficult here's why I say halo one over halo 3 I felt that once theater mode got introduced it kind of slowed things down and derailed things because we weren't capturing in the moment I liked the simplicity of halo one but we still could capture in the moment right but invariably we tended not to we would

capture and then go back look at the theater mode file and then like pick and choose things Well, I felt like halo one since you didn't have that it was a lot more streamlined. Hmm It was like this is this is all I felt like since it was more limited It was more like this is what we got this what we're working with. Halo 3 It's not like I'm saying this is actually a compliment to Halo 3 like there were too many options Like the world was too open. Halo 1 was so simple, so few weapons, so few maps, the tools weren't there. It was almost freeing to be so narrowed down. Like, these are the only things we can do. Oh, interesting. I mean, some of the charm of Red vs. Blue, I would say a lot of

the charm with Red vs. Blue was that we were working with what we had. Yeah. We would talk about that a lot. It was like, to go back to a very old joke between Gus and I. It's not like I could drop a fondue pot into the map and go, all right, let's make jokes about that because it doesn't exist in the world. So instead we have a skull on the ground and we're like, OK, how do we make a skull funny? There was a very low ceiling that we had to work under and it forced creativity. And I think that part of it was awesome.

But I also think we got as much blood out of that stone as humanly possible. And when we moved to Halo 3, it freed us up to be more creative. Yeah, for sure. And I will say, now that I think about it, we only ever filmed in theater mode once we got to Halo 3,

because of the aspect ratio and being able to remove the reticle and the weapon. I knew there was a rough, there was something, and that was definitely it. What seasons were each of these? Could you name them? Like, do you think offhand? Halo 2 swap was in episode 43. Okay. Lasted till 60 something maybe?

Yeah, the Halo 3 swap would have been... I don't remember when we switched to Halo 3. I can't remember. Fuck. I know the Halo 1 and Halo 2 swap because that was like so monumental to us. Yeah. And the Halo 2 and Halo 3 swap also was, but I believe that was maybe season five when we switched to Halo 3. Is that the one you were in the most?

In the most? Like, there was a really good Simon season. Oh, that was, uh. That was season four or five. Yeah, because that one, that was Halo 2. That was Halo 2, yeah yeah that one that was halo 2 that was hell too yeah which one did you machinimate in that season four yeah you're right it would have been for me for me it would have been like season two or three yeah which one I'm that I machinimate the most yeah I was pretty

equal from one to seven I would say you probably did the most if I had to give you credit here I think you were probably did the most, if I had to give you credit here, I think you probably did the most at season one. Oh yeah. Because I wasn't around. Yeah. Because I was in Puerto Rico doing the other stuff. So by the time I came back,

I think hopefully that helped alleviate some of the machinimating for you. Machinimating was my main job until I spun off Achievement Hunter. So I was what I did most of the time, you know? and then when we weren't doing a new season of red versus blue We were going back and remastering old seasons like oh people don't remember this But when halo all the halos hit PC we redid we reshot shot for shot season one What to because now they were in HD because now we could put them in HD originally was standard death to rerelease and everything

Yeah, yeah, it's one of the big things Gavin did when we would bring him over for the summer He would he would just he would help recreate shot for shot. Shot for shot. He would do it in slow motion. That's fucking crazy. Jason Saldana, that was a big thing he did too. Wow. What a pain. Wow, that sounds crazy.

It's a mirror. So we were, so even when we weren't making new seasons, there was like, that was a crazy thing about those early days. From like, I would say up and through, through, to Ralph Abaloneito, I would say up up to things switched at Ralph Abellanato but like through downtown was that we were machinimating red versus blue in some way constantly because if we weren't doing a season we were remastering an old season or we were doing commercial work for Microsoft or for GameStop or for the Richards Group or for who are

Wyden Kennedy or whatever ad agency But we were always doing some kind of machinimating not always in red versus blue But most of the time in reverse yeah, so many videos so many RVB videos came out that the audience never saw Because they were at a convention on a screen for three minutes, and then that was it So many wow thousands. Yeah, well, maybe maybe not thousands but hundreds. There were a lot. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. I think we talked about it before making like that video to introduce Steve Balmer at the developers conference. Yeah. Like if you were a Microsoft employee maybe you've seen way more than the normal person. If you were a Microsoft employee 20 years ago you've probably seen way more.

Or a bare naked ladies fan in the 90s. Yeah. We did all their concert interstitials They were a bunch of them. Yeah If you were a Microsoft employee who was a bare naked ladies fan you were set in the mid 2000 You saw it all you saw and if you if you moonlit as a manager at GameStop. Yeah You got the full experience you went to that managers conference. We Would make like I remember the fucking games that managers conferences. We'd have to make like 14 videos We'd make like, I remember the fucking GameStop managers' conferences, we'd have to make like 14 videos. They were a lot of work. And then we'd also master special DVDs for that. Uh-huh.

And then make special shirts for that as well, too. Is that stuff laying around anywhere? All those videos and everything? Probably not. Hard drives, maybe. You'd have to ask Adam Baird. Who knows where those are. Wow. That's crazy. That lost media stuff is like, especially for like people who are like hardcore fans of

This I think it would be at this point in 2024 impossible to compile a full collection of rooster teeth I would I would think so. Yeah, I would definitely even reverse is blue Just like if you just like use the halo like halo machinima rooster teeth content. I don't think you could do it crazy. Yeah crazy Well, um, that'll do it for this episode. This is a good one. They turned the music down. I appreciate that. Yeah, they let us finish.

Well, they saw us. Yeah. Let me know the song. It gets the room tone. Shazam. Uh, hey, thanks for listening. If you want to follow us at Anima podcast on Instagram and on Twitter, you can see pictures from this episode and every episode from the past.

Uh, we have a few more before what we would typically do as a mid-season break, where me and Jeff do music episodes and go get records and pizza. Who knows what happens after this? I have an idea. Yeah. It's going to be a title card that says, The End? Question mark? Question mark.

Well, it says The End for a long time, but then it says question mark after a little while. Just for a couple of frames. Yep, mm-hmm. So who knows what's gonna be happening? We have a few more episodes before we get to that break. And I don't know, either way, keep up to date with us at Animal Podcast and r slash Animal Podcast, the subreddit we do not run. Yeah, I imagine we'll have a little bit more info next week

and then a little bit more the next. Yeah, absolutely. So we're gonna communicate it to you through this podcast as we have it. Yeah, a Lot of this is getting solved in the car on the way to and from recording. Yeah, that's when we have time Luckily, we drove a long way today We should do the next one out and like round rock I was thinking I'm like No, I hate it so much we swim out and do it on the Round Rock?

Oh hell yeah. Swim out? Make it happen. Walk out? Walk out? It might be ankle deep. We can just do it. Alright, well thanks for listening. Any final thoughts you want to impart on these folks listening at home?

I'm not eating the Round Rock donuts though. I will. Just- go ahead. I'm not eating the Round Rock Donuts, though. I will. Uhhhhhhhhh, just thank you for the years upon years upon years of support, whether you've been with us since 2003 or whether you've been with us since 2024. It means the world to us, and we're gonna do everything in our power to keep talking. Yeah, you can't shut me up that easy. You can try, son of a bitch. Bye!