ANMA - The Michigan Man

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

Good morning, Gus! We’re at Figure 8 on Airport, a place that’s gone through a lot of changes over the years, so we change up the format a little bit. If the audio sounds different, we’re experimenting so bear with us. In this episode, we talk about Old homes & apartments, Lazarus, How we pay for coffee, Mrs Johnson’s Bakery, Bbq & taco episodes?, and to what extent thet “Founders Card” existed at Rooster Teeth. Editing & Theme Song by Richard Norman. Follow his band Good Lord on IG https://www.instagram.com/go.odlord/ and listen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/2xYhRbPkrJ45jZsOtTbRth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good morning, Gus. That's me, I'm Gus. It's a little walk and talk? Yeah. So we are in the Concord Center. I had no idea that's what this was called. Me neither. I just happened to look up the city right now.

I lived here and I didn't know that's what this was called. Me neither. I just happened to look up the city right now. I lived here and I didn't know that's what it was called. It's a little like shopping strip mall thing. That's what off of airport and like 46. Yeah. Yeah. I used to come here to buy Dickies. That's the, I just used to be more today's style. Yeah. I would say that. When I was like a young punk kid.

Still here. Yeah. Yeah. They would have like, they would have like the one pair of blue old school vans tennis shoes that I would get every time mine wore out and then they would have Dickies. Yeah. I have to ask a question before we get too far into this. Why do we come to the same coffee shop again? Dude, I was trying to explain that to Emily this morning and she's like, she didn't understand it and then I realized it's because I didn't understand it. I don't know. What do you mean? It's a different location. It's a different location. Of figure eight coffee. Yeah, but you have to see if it's just as good. I'm having the exact same cup of coffee I had last week.

Yeah, it's pretty similar. See, but that's really good to know. Isn't that important? What if it was dissimilar, Gus? It's good, it's great. Imagine if we were doing this and it was dissimilar and how you'd be like, I'm so glad we did this so that way now the people know.

So which Starbucks are we gonna start with? Yeah, so for some reason, episode one of Good Morning Gus, we went to Figure 8 Coffee on Chaconne Street. And now for episode two of Good Morning Gus, we've gone to Figure 8 Coffee on Airport Boulevard. It's true. In the Concord Center. Next to the Bodega.

Yep. Whatever that is. Like, martial arts place. Yeah. Where I- In Liquorland. Using the same mics as last time. Hopefully the audio is a little better this time.

It was a little bit of an experiment. Yeah. It was the first time using those mics and it didn't work out great. Yeah. Hopefully this one's working out a little better. I like the face style of your hair. Of course it is. Absolutely. So everyone needs to get Dickies.

Before you get your work clothes. Yeah. It's like every poster in the window is Dickies. Yeah. So the great thing about these mics is they're like gloves. So we can just clip them on and walk around, which is what we're doing. Yeah.

We should walk down here in the street and go around because they're so cool. You guys did that once for one of the supplementary non-canonical episodes. Yes. And I thought that was great. Yeah, we went record shopping. Yeah, and then Gus got jealous and then said,

I wanna do that. Gus want walk too. Yeah. So that's actually what we're doing. We're walking and having a cup of coffee. You wanna walk to In-N-Out? Yeah, that's fine. Get a little burger at 9.30 in the morning. Maybe we'll do that.

That's how we'll celebrate a successful podcast. Let's look at laughing over the end. When are we gonna have one of those? Yeah, for sure. One day. At the end. Yep. Whatever the end is.

What are you guys gonna to talk about today? It's the standard small talk go-to, right? OK. Is last week I talked about how great the summer's been. Yeah. Amazing. And then the week between then and now has been maybe the weirdest week of summer in Austin ever.

Yeah. Oh, it's nuts. Where it rained almost every day. And I don't think it got above 90 degrees any of the days. The high was 89 all week. Yeah. Crazy. It's been awesome. Yeah.

I love it. Yeah, I love it. But man, it's like, this is the last week of July? Or like, this is like when summer should be ramping up. It should be like 105 outside. I swear to God, it's like the city of Austin recognized that you and I were like one foot out the door. And we were like, no, no, no.

We can still be full summer. No, no, no, no. I can change. full summer. No, no, no, no, no. I can change. I can change. Remember 2008? That was great. Come on, come on back. Was 2008 a good summer?

I don't know. OK, that was a hard. It was a terrible year for America, but hopefully it was a good summer for Austin. That was the house I lived in. You lived here? Oh, that was it? This was your old house right here?

We did not have a wire fence in the front. Like all that's different in everything. How long did you live here for? A year. Did you like it? It was fine. Like the location was fine. They got a car that looks like yours. They do. I was paying too much in rent to live here.

Like the area, like there's some walkable stuff, but not really much. Yeah. And then when the year lease was up, we were like, oh, let's go like month to month. There's a dog. There's a dog in that truck. Yeah. We're like, oh, let's go like month to month. There's a dog. There's a dog in that truck. Yeah. We're like, oh, let's go month to month. And the landlord went, oh no, we only do year leases.

And I went, oh, on the lease, it says we can go month to month. And they said, yeah, we can see why you'd be confused by that. So we do a year lease and we're like, all right, so I guess this is our 60 day notice. For some reason, I always thought you lived in these apartments over here.

Oh, wow. That's fun. I've never lived like in an apartment apartment. Really's fun. I've never lived like in an apartment apartment. Really? Yeah. I've never lived like second floor apartment. What? I've never just never lived in an apartment. How many of you lived in? I don't know. A lot. Oh, really?

One, two in Austin. Three, four. Jesus. I've lived in four different apartment complexes. I think since I've lived in four different apartment complexes, I think, since I've lived in Austin. Wow. It's so funny you say that. I've only lived in two apartments in my life. I've never thought about that.

Yeah. It's just, I think it's a normal thing. Like I lived like in a little like condo building thing where it was sort of like apartments, but it was not. I've been like on fourplex. Yeah, yeah, it's, but it was not. It was more like a condo. I thought it was like a fourplex, but it was like a fourplex. Yeah, yeah, it's that. Yeah, that. It wasn't like this.

And I don't count that little apartment complex over on Enfield I lived in for a while, because it wasn't like. I wouldn't count that. Apartments, apartments. I wouldn't count that. Those are, yeah. Absolutely.

I love this format of the walk-in tile. We're getting steps in. Yeah. I'm feeling good. You're gonna do my power walk? Yeah, Gus, you guys can't see Gus is lifting his knees so high and he put a head man on. I'm gonna feel that tomorrow.

I just did a so all right episode about the amount of times you do a thing in a day because I read somewhere that the average human makes 33 to 35,000 decisions in a day. And so I was like, what the fuck else do we do? What do we do that's that much, right? So I went through like heartbeats and breathing and blinking and all that shit.

But what the fuck are we talking about? I just got myself confused. You're talking about power walking? Oh, but the average person, do you know how much the average person walks in a day? Oh, it depends. You're supposed to do 10,000 steps. Yeah, now do you mean average American or average person?

Or average American. Oh, 1,300 you mean average American or average person? Average American. Oh, 1300 steps probably. It's not quite that bad. Uh-huh. I would say 4,000. It's like 3,000. Yeah. The average American walks like three,

somewhere around 3,000 steps a day, which seems like so little. It is. It definitely is. You know, you just said that you're supposed to walk like 10,000 steps a day. You know, that's bullshit, right? Yeah, it's completely made up.

It's an arbitrary fact. It was like the dude who invented like the first digital pedometer was in Japan. And he thought the Japanese character for 10,000 looks like a man walking. So he thought, oh, that's symmetric. No way. So that's why people say 10,000 steps because in-

Is that for real? Yeah, in Japanese the character for 10,000 looks like a dude walking. I read that during the pandemic. Huh. It's uh, yeah, there's no science behind it. Although it turns out to be a pretty good figure. Yeah. Arbitrarily, but-

I went a little over it because some cars coming. But yeah, it was just- How crazy. The- I started walking, trying to just get like 10,000 every day, like recently. Yeah. And it's been like, it's nice.

I walk the dog and you're like, oh, there's 2,500 knocked out. And then you do other stuff and then you're like, oh, okay. Just my average day of stuff is like 20, I got another 2,500 steps. And the rest is like, I'll get on the treadmill or I'll go outside or whatever. It's great. Like I really, it's nice to be active

when you don't have anywhere to go. Yeah. Well, it's also, again, going back to what we talked about earlier, it's nice doing it this summer and this time of year. That's the key. It's so, normally it's just like walking out into an oven. Cause like I have a bulldog who loves to go for walks,

but he can't be outside for more than like five minutes when it's over 90 degrees. So it's not good for him. See this right here? Yeah. Lazarus. Uh-huh. It used to be.

This is where I love video. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it did. I think part of the sign is over there by bar flights, right? Wasn't it Cold Town Theater for a while too? Mm-hmm. So Cold Town was attached to the side of it. Yeah.

Or whatever, like the inside of it. And so it all went defunct and went under because we would walk over here. Like the few times I went to I Heart Video, I would like walk in and be like this classic Austin around and go, I want to write a fucking DVD. But it was cool to like walk around. I think in a previous episode, I may have talked about getting a blockbuster card once in the 90s just to take it to I Love Video to get a card there for free.

It was this location I came to. Oh, really? Blockbuster card. Oh, that's so I got it off. I got the blockbuster card from the blockbuster on Riverside. You actually walk down here. It was this location I came to. Oh really? With my Blockbuster card, yeah. Oh that's so cool. I got it off, I got the Blockbuster card from the Blockbuster on Riverside. Can we actually walk down here? Yeah, then I drove over here. I haven't been to this Lazarus, I just wanna see it.

In Austin you were either an I love video person or a Vulcan video person. Uh-huh. And I was a Vulcan guy. I think I was actually more of a Vulcan guy too. Yeah. Just I realized one day I didn't have an I love video card. I was like that seems wrong.

So I went, I made an appointment to get one, yeah. I definitely came to I love video on occasion but I was just a Vulcan guy. It was closer to where I lived I guess. I was like, that seems wrong. So I went, I made an appointment to get one. I definitely came to I Love Video on occasion, but I was just a Vulcan guy. It was closer to where I lived, I guess. And Lance Hahn, the lead singer of J Church, which is one of my all time favorite bands, he worked at the Vulcan video on South Congress up until he died.

And so that was a whole thing for me. That's one of the things I was gonna bring up was that it was so different back then that there was a Vulcan video, which was the same kind of business on South Congress. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's where you would go to buy the video. The video rental store was just like right around the corner from now where the Hermes store.

Yeah, yeah. Right. And a guy that would check you out would be the lead singer of a major indie punk band. Dude, all these places are like brand new. Well, they don't look like they've been here very long. No, these are brand new, brand new. Well, they don't look like they've been here very long. No, these are brand new, brand new. Like nothing has been. So we decided that. These are all definitely like AirBBs.

So Rooster Teeth RIP has some connections to Cold Town Theater. Not even Lazarus that I know. But definitely had some ties to Cold Town. What was that? Some of the people, I don't know who, was Asaf in charge of Cold Town or was he just a part of it? I think he was just a part the people, I don't know who, was Asaf in charge of Cold Town or was he just a part of it?

I think he was just a part of it. I don't know that he was in charge necessarily. Some of the guys like Pimo and Asaf and the guy who Gavin made out with, Tom, who were all really big into the improv scene in Austin, they were all a big part of Cold Town. I think even Shannon probably was involved in this. Oh, definitely.

That's a lot of the people that did voice acting in RVB in like season five to eight, nine. A lot of those people were involved in Coltown. And if you ever hear us talk about like when we did the improv training those couple of times, it was all people from Coltown. Yeah, those were the guys that trained us. And we actually knew Asaf and Pimo

from the machinima days back in New York. Whoa. One of the guys that was involved used to run the Machinima Academy of Arts and Sciences and is the person who told us that Red versus Blue is machinima. Oh, how crazy. Let's have a seat.

Yeah, let's do it. We just found a spot. We found like a courtyard. Yeah. I've never been to this, like, based on the Lazarus. I haven't either. I might come back This place is huge. The fucking tacos at the Lazarus on East 6th are great. Yeah, yeah, it was uh, that place is great

Yeah, it's great to get a cup of coffee and it's great to... Hard to park, great to eat. Oh man, welcome to 6th. Yeah, fucking rough. That's why I started Violet Crown and I just walk all the way down, because that's the only place where I can park and I know I'll find parking. We knew a dude who lived like right down, like the next block over or two blocks over. And we came to a party at his house one time.

We came to more than a party at his house. He was like, he was like a daily hangout. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, like, that was like, that's like the one memory I have comingout for you. Yeah, yeah. But I mean like that was like, that's like the one memory I'm coming to his place. Yeah. Okay. Back over here. What, what do you remember about that party?

I think I discovered Tom Collins at that party. Whoa. Was that a blackout drunk party? Yeah, that was, that was totally. Oh wow, really? Yeah. Did you find that you liked Tom Collins? Yeah, it was like, it goes down smooth.

I started drinking Tom Collins. Tom Collins was the first mixed drink I ever drank. Oh really? Maybe not the very first, I think the very first mixed drink I ever had was a, Martini? Yeah. Like when I turned 21.

But I started ordering Tom Collins purely because I, when I turned 21, my favorite movie on earth was Bottle Rocket, and I watched it twice a week. And that's what Dignan always ordered at the beginning of the movie. Yes, for Tom Collins. I didn't know what it was. I just wanted to order it because he ordered it. And that's and I just started drinking them.

And I thought it was just like a normal drink that everybody drank. I didn't realize that bartenders were like, what? Yeah. Really? Yeah. It's like a headache. Yeah. I just pulled out the timer, so I knew kind of where we were at. What I can tell you is that since the last time we recorded it, I just pulled out the timer so I knew kind of where we were at. What I can tell you is that since the last time we recorded it, it's been 155 hours, 55 minutes and 25 seconds. Oh, you should probably reset that.

Oh, hang on. There we go. Yeah, I think we've been going for about 15 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about that dude who lived over here. Yeah. And we told another story about it was his girlfriend we introduced Jason to that one time.

We said, oh, this is poop. And she was like, oh, that's sad. It was his girlfriend. Oh, I heard that story. It was the most honest moment a human being could have. I mean, it was so funny. it left an indelible mark. I remember that day I died. That's really fucking funny. That's awesome.

That dude was so cool. I liked him so much. Uh huh, but. But nothing. Oh okay. He's still cool and I still like him. We don't see him anymore. We haven't seen him.

We saw him once. We got a copy of him once a few years ago. Right. I've probably seen him once in 20 years, 15 years, but a really talented musician. Uh huh. A real good drummer. Yeah, had a very like successful career with that or a very successful run of that. Yeah, he did. He used to do session drumming. He even drummed for the ghetto boys. No shit. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. We were listening to clips all the way here. We're at Lazarus and it just I figured there was like, oh, there's no one here. He's a brewery. I didn't think about

how they have tacos. They have coffee. We should come back here and do an episode also. We've already been here though. What's that? They have another location. Yeah, but we haven't Yeah, we haven, but we haven't had the coffee, Gus. We've had coffee here. I've had the coffee here a million times. It's good. Yeah, but you haven't had it on the show

with your friend Gus. It's kind of the whole point of the show, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole point of the show is getting together with Gus. How did you guys feel after doing the first episode? It felt like when it stopped, really. It just started back on. Like we didn't miss a beat at all.

Almost like we've been doing this together for 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. It's also like the only way we hang out. Yeah, that's true too. The only way we communicate, even though our texting is very sparse and it's normally related to organizing this.

About this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that little chat group's even called ANMA. It's like that's all it is. It is. I'm not gonna change the name. It's easy to find ANMA. It's like that's all it is. It is. I'm not going to change the name. It's easy to find ANMA. Four letters. Boom, boom, boom.

Throw it in there. So we need to get chalk. Yeah, that'll be easy. OK, so we should talk about that maybe. We have so we had a big idea. We talked about it on the last episode where we're going to section off. You soaked yourself.

Yeah, I just section off a part of a tire and whoever's part, whoever's section is touching the ground the most pays for the coffee. So we met up at the 100% eat space, grabbed some duct tape, threw it on the tire, Gus wrote out the name so that way we knew the sections and we're like, this is great. Now, because the chalk won't have to like,

you won't have to drive around with this shit on your tire all the time or whatever. Chalk so hard to get out. In San Antonio, you get arrested for it. So we don't you know, it's scary. But we put the tape on boom. Check out the video that we shot the big reveal where we walk over don't look don't look don't look. Okay, one, two, three. All the tape's gone. Oh, look at all that gone. 100% gone. I think I even commented before, I was like, the tape might fall off. I didn't think it was all gonna fall.

I thought we might lose APs. I didn't think any of it was gonna fall off. It's duct tape. It's duct tape, that's what it does. I was in the army for five years, the military ran on duct tape, dude. But now we know duct tape's weakness. Yeah, tires. Tires, yeah. But now we know duct tape's weakness. Yeah, tires.

Tires, yeah. Well, good ideas. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably all the dirt and the shit you get on your tire. Yeah. Just like didn't let it get a good edition. Okay, then we should do it with Esther's car.

Yeah, that car is really, really clean. Yeah, that's true. It is very clean. I guess that's true. Duct tape exists to prop up bad ideas. Not facilitate good ones. It's true. Yeah. It's true. Duct tape exists to prop up bad ideas, not facilitate good ones. It's true. Yeah.

It's true. You know, tires are like overwhelmingly the number one source of microplastics. Is that right? Yeah. All of the plastic in your body is for tires. But they're, but it's rubber. But yeah, it's all like that material,

all that shit that breaks off. It's all the other junk in it. So all, so all cum is filled with micro plastic because I've been chewing on tires? You got tires in your balls. So I'm kind of like a Michelin man. Whoa! What does that mean?

You're fat? I'm made out of tires. He's a big tire man. Oh, oh, oh. He's a big tire man. I'm a big white, looking like a slug tire guy. Yep, yep, we are. You think he looks like a slug?

The Michigan man? That's what I think I remember. The Michigan man. The Michigan man. Man. All right think I remember. The Michigan man. The Michigan man. Man. All right, that's the title of the episode. That's me, I'm the Michigan man. You get a new tire and it wears down,

the tread goes away, like where does it go? In your lungs. Yeah, that is right into you. And that makes sense. Yeah. It's like it doesn't just fucking evaporate out in the space and go away. No. I think this guy over here could probably use a new tire. Looks like it might be a little bald.

Oh no. I definitely need new tires because I keep getting mine from a used tire place where the guy only speaks Spanish and he's trying to sell me on more tires and I'm like, I'm like, you're not taking from me for a ride on this one bud. But I need to get some more. Mrs. Johnson's bakery? Yeah, right up the road over here. You guys go to that a lot or what? I used to before the new guy bought it. Okay, so talk about that. Is it the new guy or now the new new guy?

Is there a new new guy? I'll go back if there's a new new guy. Because they opened up and then they were dog shit for a while and then they closed down again, I think, and now they're back again. I don't know if it's the same people. I didn't realize they were back. I thought they were closed down.

I think they are back. I could be wrong. Yeah, Mrs. Johnson's used to be like It's like a fucking staple. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I think Bernie Burns took me to Took me there for the very first time like maybe the week I met him. Oh, really? Like hey, it was awesome. You gotta check out an awesome thing. Yeah, I go like 9 p.m When the fresh donuts were out. I think Mrs. Johnson's original, if I remember correctly, opened like either in the 40s or the 50s. Yeah.

You know, Mrs. Johnson ran it for a long time. And I want to say sometime in either the late 80s or early 90s, she sold it to like one of her employees, like a dude who worked there. Yeah. And he took over and just kept the Mrs. Johnson's name. And he ran it probably until, probably until the pandemic, 2020 or so.

Uh-huh. Then he closed down, then, probably until the pandemic, 2020 or so. Then he closed down, then that's when the new people took over. Yeah, there's definitely like a new, like they built like a, like an outdoor, I think there's like a little outdoor thing there now, or some kind of sign or something. Stuff is different. Before it looked rundown and old

because it was all the old stuff, it was legit. And because all the work went into the doughnuts. Right. And it was good. And then they replaced the sign and I was like, oh, I don't know. Yeah. It's a new sign that's fashioned to look retro and kitschy and old. Yeah.

It's like, oh, I don't know. The old sign was legit old. The new sign is faux old. I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah. But when was the last time you guys went there? I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah. But what was the last time you guys went there? I haven't been there since the new people. I went maybe like a month after the new people took over and had a pretty mediocre to like,

we don't need to go back experience. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel about Tyson's tacos. I've never liked Tyson's tacos. Yeah, that's who bought it. The Tyson's tacos people? Yeah, that's who bought Mrs. Johnson's. Oh, I didn't know that. Because it's right across the street Tyson's. Yeah, it's it's that that's that's who bought it. That's nice. What yeah, that's who bought mrs. Johnson's I didn't know they tried across the yes. Yeah Tyson's bought

Mrs. Johnson's I don't know if they still own it anymore. Apparently they may have changed and I don't maybe they still do Yeah, I just do you Do you know we have a friend? Who fucking loves Tyson's talk? Oh, yeah, is it Bernie? No TPG TPG love Fuck with Tyson's tacos. Oh yeah. Is it Bernie? No, TPG. In that vein. TPG loves Tyson's tacos. Fuck with Tyson's? Whoa, whoa, what?

I used to live, again, right over here and this was all walking distance. And you have a dog. Yeah, and it was like, oh, this is serendipitous. And we ate there once and I'm like, this is okay. Like it's fine. I'll go there with other people to get kind of like the chips and queso and like a taco and be like'm like, this is okay. Like it's fine. I'll go there with other people to get kind of like the chips and queso and like a taco and be like,

ah, this is fine. You know, it's like, it's a thing. We ate there a second time. We got, I mean, this is a little two bedroom house that we lived in, one bathroom, whatever. The worst food poisoning. Both of us at the same time. Fucking brutal.

It was like, I'm not gonna eat here anymore. It was really bad. And then all that fucking, like, did he come out and it was like, hey, I'm like a weird racist. Yeah, but then he was like, no, it's okay. My wife's from Mexico. Yeah. I was like, I don't know.

I think it was a weird racist. Yeah, that's why I didn't go there and that's why I didn't go to Mrs. Johnson's after they bought it. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no. It's like he's doing like a JD Vance thing. Johnson's. After they bought it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like he's doing like a JD Vance thing where it's like, okay, for some of them, right bud?

Hey, right guys? Hey. Oh, goodness. The other, so you're talking about- I'm glad my taste buds were on to something. Yeah, dude, it's just not, for all the stuff that's like around here or whatever, I could go another block up

and get tacos from like the little truck in the parking lot or whatever. You just kind of go there. Where's y'all's go-to for tacos right now? It really depends. I would say the standard is probably like Veracruz. Oh yeah, I mean for a breakfast taco especially, like that's like the spot.

But dude, it really is hard to beat a gas station breakfast taco that is close to your house that you can just dip into, get the worst cup of coffee and three tacos and just house them in the car. into, get the worst cup of coffee and three tacos and just house them in the car. You know what's surprisingly good? Rudy's breakfast tacos. Yeah. Really?

Yeah, you wouldn't think it, but it's like they got them all sitting out there into the heat lamp, you just pick one up, it's like two bucks or whatever. It's like, this is pretty solid. Damn. I, No gourmet shit.

No, no, no, no. I think Veracruz is definitely the best, but I've been taking a break from them because I hit Veracruz so fucking hard the last year. So I've been going to Nueva León and they're really good. Oh, that's cool. But, uh. New lion.

Thanks, man. I have been addicted to the happy hour special at Deinada lately. Oh, really? I've been almost, I would say probably three days a week. You get crispy tacos, they're a little crispy tacos. You let me know, can you let me know when you want to go again and I will meet you there?

Yeah, dude, I'm there. I seriously, I go all the time. I love De Notta. They open at like three o'clock or whatever and I'll be the first person there. Dude, I love De Notta. That's a spot that I- Nick Cunitas is really good too.

I take people there who aren't, you know, who are visiting or whatever, cause it feels like, it feels like a great like little throwback. It's a newer spot. It's next to Sawyer & Co. across from Central Machine Works. And their mascot thing is a grackle eating a chip and they put it on a big sign on the outside.

Their tequila list is awesome. Their food is killer. Their queso's really good. I just think it's a great little spot. Dude, next time you go, just hit me up. I'm so down. I'll definitely go. I'll hitch up soon.

Cause it is a, maybe we should do an episode there. Let's do it. Do they have coffee? No, we have burger episodes. Why can't we have taco episode? I don't know. That's a line we've never crossed. Are you following that?

We're breaking all the rules. Listen, Rusty's gone. They were stopping us from getting tacos and that's what led to its downfall. Big teeth can't tell us what to do anymore. We're out from under big teeth. The idea that they were stopping us- They were keeping us in a box.

Hey, let's do that thing that every ex employee does, just talking about how oppressive. Yeah. Well, I gotta, I have to go make a YouTube video that says I'm no longer with Rooster Teeth and it's my sad face and it's all lowercase as the title or whatever. But you were talking also about food poisoning and it made me think about something else

uh australian. Esther was reading a subreddit that I don't subscribe to, it's like kitchen confidential or something. Uh-huh. And some dude went on there talking about how he was let go from a barbecue place, like a very prestigious barbecue place in Austin, and that their health practices were terrible. That the walk-in cooler was never below 40 degrees. They would put buckets of raw jalapenos under meat and like the drippings would get into the raw jalapenos and just fill it. And just like all these terrible things. And everyone in the comments like,

which place is it? Which place is it? Where is it? And you're the guy kind of like hemmed and hawed and finally was like, yeah, it's gonna be a barbecue. Oh, really? What? I've still never been. Wow, really? So again, take it with a grain of salt. Yeah. Who knows if it's true at all,

but it was like a post on Kitchen Confidential. Wow. The person was like, yeah, I reported him to health department and all this stuff. When was the last time you had barbecue? I have so rarely eaten. Me too. I went to Rudy's like two weeks ago. Oh really?

Yeah. What before for family or just go for food to eat? They got, okay, I think we've talked about it on this podcast before, but they've got a baked potato or they call it a smoked potato and you can get it loaded. And then they put the barbecue on it and it's like 9.99. And it's one, it's delicious. And two, it's the best value for barbecue in the world.

Why don't we film up Rudy's baked potato episode? We're finally under the impressive rule of yes, we can do whatever we want. Again, they were holding us back from eating, what was it? Barbecue covered baked potatoes? Yeah. Yeah, specifically they put it on a list

and we said, ooh. Yeah, now we can do whatever we want. Take that, Mr. Chief. I mean, there's plenty of space to record at Rudy's too. Like, I'm so down. We can get breakfast tacos and a giant potato. Because we can all have tacos and we can eat off of one potato

and then it's not like we're going insane. Oh, yeah, yeah. See? Smart. Oh, potato, thank you. Okay. Y'all are gonna do sour cream. I can't roll it.

What? You can get it on the side, or we can I can't roll it. You can get it on the side. Or we can get it on the side. What, how's your vegan? I normally eat meat on the weekend. Oh, okay. Okay. And I'm not like super strict about it. I'm more like vegetarian during the week

and then I'll eat meat on the weekends. Does Esther subscribe to this as well? No, not really. So, you know, it's not like a hard fasting. Just really trying to reduce the amount of meat consumed. Would you say you eat barbecue or Rudy's fairly regularly? No, no. Or was that the first time you've been to a-

That was like the first time in a long time, yeah. How about you? I think the last time I had barbecue, it was probably Terry Black when someone was in town. I went to that place you told me about, the Egyptian barbecue. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kate. What is it?

Koji or Kogi or something. BBQ that's at odd would. Yeah. Yeah. And my mom went and picked it up and she was in town. It was fucking amazing. Isn't it awesome? Absolutely. It's like we talked about it on an episode because we were going to go do a it was going to be coffee.

They don't have a coffee truck anymore. It's an Egyptian guy making barbecue with like a lot of like Middle Eastern spices and stuff. It's unreal. It's so good because you can just get the regular barbecue stuff, but then it's just like, hey, check it out. We jammed a pita full of this stuff in the store.

It made me briefly excited for barbecue again. That other place that we went to a couple of times with rooster teeth related shit at the end By the old office. We did a coffee episode there. They also have barbecue. What is that place called? I don't know Eric keeps looking at me Na-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-Nam-N Oh, Nosh and Bevy was over on Burnet. No, this place is right by the old office, right by Shithead Donuts. And we went there for- Oh yeah. Oh.

Yeah, that place. When you're saying the old office- I'm saying Roosted. I understand, but when you say the old office, I'm thinking down south and like Ralph Alblanato and shit. And I'm like, I don't know anything around there. Sorry, no, I wouldn't say that to you. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing's what I say office to the group.

I mean, the one we all together. Right, right. There's no new office. Yeah, you have a new office. Right. I have a new office. But the Ruzi's office isn't the office, therefore, it's the. Yeah, the yeah, that that

it's good. Yeah. The that barbecue place and it has like the coffee shop in it. Yeah. And that was great. Was it called Nosh or something like that? Nom, nom, something like that. Something like that. Can I ask you guys more?

I'm gonna look it up, but can I ask you guys more of it? And feel free not to answer this and we can cut it if you really want to, that's totally fine. Prepare for cut. Uh-huh. How did you feel being a founder that, oh, Mum Foods smokehouse. Mum Foods. You're close.

How did you feel being a founder? Did you feel like there was a founder's card? Cut. I'm kidding. Did you feel like there was a founder's card that you had to play at times or could play at times to force a hand or get something through? We're talking about like, oh yeah, they wouldn't let us get tacos, whatever.

That never happened. No. Stuff like that never occurred. And for me, I had a system that I had to work through, but there were a lot of times where it was like, hey, I'm trying to do this with like Gus and Jeff. And it would like grease the wheel in a way where people would be like, oh, sorry. And then then like let it go through. Did you feel that? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I think I never tried

to do anything outside of process. Uh-huh. You know I tried to respect process as much as I could but there were some times where I felt like process was wrong or slowing down so I would be like no no we're not I'm not gonna not gonna do that. It wasn't very often though. Founders have surprisingly little power in a company once it grows to a certain point. They definitely have influence and it would be disingenuous for Gus and I to insinuate that we didn't have a tremendous amount

of influence in the company. But with that influence came, I felt an even greater responsibility not to use it. Or when you do use it to make sure you're using it in the right way, at the right time, in the right amount, if that makes sense. And then again, at some point, influence is only influence. People don't have to listen to you. Right.

You know, and one of the frustrating things about being a founder, especially later on in the company when things were more difficult and it became a very complicated thing to run, is you would be told no. I got told no constantly. Right. I got told no more than,

I probably got told yes more than anybody in the company, but, I probably got told yes more than anybody in the company, but I also probably got told no more than anybody in the company, because that's the way. And the problem with being a founder is you're privy to the, I guess, to seeing fully behind the veil and understand the no. And so a lot of times you get to see why the no is a no, and then you're faced with the reality of going like, I get why our no is the no. And so a lot of times you get to see why the no is a no and then you're faced with the reality of going like,

I get why our no is a no. And that's a heavy, it sucks. It would be easier just to be like, oh, it's unfair that they said no to me. I wish I could be mad about it. But then you get to see the reason behind it and you go, oh, I understand. It makes sense.

And it's hard to live on, it's always been hard to straddle both of those sides because I understood why the business made the decisions that the business made and I understood why the talent and the rest of the company were upset about some of the decisions that were made. It's like being on a seesaw. It's a brutal place to live.

It's very demoralizing I think at times because there's no right answer ever. And you just like, no matter which way the seesaw swings, you're disappointing and letting somebody down. You know, it sucks. But to also be an effective leader, whether it's in a leadership role or whether as a mentor or an intra-company luminary, maybe,

you just, I think you have, once again, a moral and ethical responsibility to follow the processes in place and to do it the right way and to lead by example. And so I think Gus and I both tried to do that, which is why I spent as much time making one sheets and pitch proposals as anybody else in the company. I think leading by example is key.

Like, when you head out there, it's like, if you are flaunting, working outside the system, how can you expect anyone to respect the system? Yeah. That's a difficult place to be. Even now, like with Stinky Dragon stuff, right? Like, I don't ask anyone else on the team

to do something I wouldn't do myself. Like, I'm getting, like you said, we're gonna have to do one-sheets or shit like that. But it's like, anything like assistant editing, or, you know, compilingiling audio or whatever it takes. Like I'm gonna wait in and get it done just to make sure it's as egalitarian as possible. Yeah.

I think that there was a, I think for people who didn't know within the company, I think there was a thought of, oh yeah, the founders will just kind of do what they're gonna do and you know, that's whatever. But that's, that was a very like ignorant way of thinking I think for a lot of people.

It's an easy way of thinking. It was, it was a very easy way of thinking. And I think a lot of that thinking was like, it hurt a lot of the internal processes that we're talking about, where I don't think I ever saw you guys go outside of the norm of like what I would have to do to get something moved through or whatever.

I never saw you guys go in and like, here's my fucking dick on the table. Here's what we're doing. I don't think in my entire tenure, I ever saw you guys go in and like, here's my fucking dick on the table. Here's what we're doing that I don't think in my entire tenure, I ever saw you guys do that. I saw other people do that that didn't have the pull to do something like that. And it's like, the sort of like discrepancy or like thought there that just thinking like, well, this is what the founders are able to do. And I don't think I ever saw you guys do

anything like that. If you were ever to describe me, Jeff, this is what the founders are able to do. And I don't think I ever saw you guys do anything like that. If you were ever to describe me, Jeff, you would probably say, I respect rules and I love adhering to rules. Gus is a rule lover. Right, so it's like, I'm gonna do my best to work within the rules and within the system whenever possible.

Right, and people also, it's very easy to look at the wins because I used to deal with this a lot, like with people in the company around me, I'd hear the whispers and I'd hear them talking or they would say it and they'd always be like, of course we're making another Jeff project. Yeah. But it's like, nobody recognizes that.

They look at me and go like, well, we made hardcore monopoly. It took me four years as a founder of the fucking company to get hardcore monopoly made. It took me four years of constantly beating that drum and trying to convince people and proposing it and being told no and trying again and retooling it and coming back around six months later

and taking a different stab at it before I got it made. People don't recognize the amount of work that sometimes goes into the wins. They don't see that part of it. And give the patience and just like waiting and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we were, we were trying to launch Black Box down. Yeah.

That took a long time. We love founder. We does. And we were essentially told no. Yeah. That took a year. Yes. Yeah. And that's just an audio podcast.

It's a low lift. But, and that was at a time where we weren't doing that stuff, we were just looking for like, I don't know, what do you guys wanna do? It was very left field. I thought it was a hell of an idea. And a whole direction we should be heading in, which clearly we did, oh God.

The reason that it happened is because you were creative director for six months or whatever, and you were listening to us through the wall and going this is great rubber stamp rubber stamp rubber stamp And that's how all the podcasts came to be that's how all that stuff happened Yeah, I think that podcast was interesting because it did a lot of things that kind of became the mold right? I think that was the first podcast that had its own domain We're like a call to action where you could send people and there was like Roosty first or socials and all of that stuff. It was a good test bet because again, it was outside of the core audience. It was like this whole other thing that you kind of like experiment with and tool with

and see what works and what doesn't work. Man, so I did get the right step back after the Roosty shut down. I own Black Box down and I've been itching. I really want to do something with it, but man just so slammed with Castle in the Stinky Dragon, I got no time. And all this Good Morning Gus stuff that he has to do. Yeah, yeah. I'm editing this audio. I got a little, for the audience, a little peek behind the curtain.

So since I own Black Box Down, I got my first payout from Spotify. Oh really? For dynamic ad insertion the other day. So the way it works, again, if you're not familiar with the way podcast works, like you can do direct ad sales and you know, it's when you hear me saying, buy a Hello Mattress or whatever.

Uh. Oh that's good. Hello Mattress. Well that's good. He's not giving any free promotion baby, that's smart. That's that quick guess thinking. Yeah. But there's also dynamic ad insertion. Yeah. Where's not giving any free promotion baby, that's smart. That's that quick guess. But there's also dynamic ad insertion.

Where it's like, you just mark that there can be an ad at this spot in an episode and then, or depending on the platform you use, the Black Box Down associated megaphone, which is through Spotify, they'll go ahead and dynamically insert ads that target the person based on where they are, whatever. Right.

So obviously I'm not making you have some of the Black Box Down, not doing dynamic ads. So right now it's just generating revenues with dynamic ads. Right. Yeah. And they just lower the price $30. For a great deal. I love your sponsor.

Save money by having this kids make the merch. So I got my first payout for Black Box Down which is just running dynamic ads. $35,000? No, no, no, no. And I haven't had new content in a year or so. The payout for a month was $400, which sounds like a lot,

but hosting Black Box Down costs me $250 a month. Okay. And I have to pay for some storage to store all the files. That cost me another $10 a month. Okay. And I have to pay for some storage to store all the files. That cost me another $10 a month. So I'm out $260 a month. You made 140 bucks and you didn't pay for coffee. I made 140 bucks, but I'm gonna get taxed on $400 for the revenue

and I have to file my taxes at the end of the year. So I think in the end, I probably made about 70 bucks in the month off of $400. So for people who don't, who always wonder like, hey, you could just put this out and put ads on it. It doesn't, that's really an unsustainable process. That's a great, that is a great little explanation. Yeah.

I know people listen to that and understand. The storage, the cost of storage is, it should be so much less or it should be so much more. Where it's at feels like a weird, expensive, inexpensive spot to me where it's like, it's not that much to host this stuff, but it should be zero. Yeah. Or it should be hundreds.

And when you sign up for a lot of these services, they're like, Oh, you get like three months free and all this stuff, and you're like, oh, great. And then you have to start paying for it. And you just go, why am I making this? I gotta pay money to have this go somewhere so people listen to, I don't care if you listen to this. Like it's goofy.

It's very weird. And nobody thinks about like those little things that are all backend stuff. And that's why it's so nice to have Nick. Yeah. I've been, man, when we, when Rishi shut down and we had a little independent, I talked with Nick nonstop.

I feel like I understand. Like I started our broadcast division. I started all that stuff way back in the day. I knew everything. And then when we went independent, I was like, okay, I can do this again. I don't know what goddamn thing. I think hopefully I've gained like 25% of Nick knowledge Yeah in the intermediate the day Rooster Teeth closed down Nick became the most popular

Employee in the history of the people of Rooster Teeth Nick Schwartz for the last probably three months at the time of this recording It's probably been the hardest working man of any of us Since it all shut down. He is all day, every day, he's editing. He's not just editing. He's not just uploading. He's not just like, he learned how to do like video shit. Like he's never, he doesn't edit video.

He's an audio guy. Learned how to do all that stuff or whatever. He's still in all of our recordings. And then he's taking meetings and helping other people to figure out all their backend. And he's just like, oh, happy to help. Yeah, he is the unsung hero of so many podcasts. He's more than a guy in a monkey mask. We're laughing in the background of all this stuff.

He's my true enemy when we play video games. And he is the hardest working man in everything that he is so hard working. Yeah, so smart. So sharp. I mean, yeah, what a what a fucking great work. I can I could never say enough good things about Nick. And such a nice guy. It's disgusting. Yeah, it's awful. It's the worst, isn't it?

When you're like, why do you get to have it all? Yeah. He's got weird feet though. Yeah, I think that. Yeah, he's got like kangaroo feet. Bigfoot guy. Kangaroo feet's weird. And he loves fume.

That guy's all about it. That guy. That dude is. He's like. Fidget devices were designed for Nick. Should we start walking back? Yeah, yeah, let's about it. That dude is he's like fidget devices were designed for Nick. He's start walking back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because Nick is a guy who needs something to do and I totally understand this. He's a guy who like needs something to do with

his hands, but also used to just chain smoke cigarettes because he worked in sports radio. And so he would just all day all day all day all day to walk back on your course? There is. There is. It's going to be loud because we're on the street, but I don't mind. Audio texture. Yeah. But yeah, Nick, hardest, hardest working guy out of any of us. Yeah, we're talking about hosting and how expensive it is for your podcast. Yeah.

Should we talk about the early days of Roosted and what a deal hosting was? When we first... What a deal? What a deal it is now. Like what a deal it was to deal with. Oh, what an ordeal. What an ordeal it was. There you go. When we first started,

I think our first hosting bill was about 10K. It was 15,000. Holy shit. For a month. What year was this? 2003. God damn. So imagine getting, oh that's cool.

I'm gonna take a picture of that. That's really neat. Yeah, Monopoly So imagine getting, oh that's cool. I'm gonna take a picture of that, that's really neat. Yeah, monopoly. Imagine getting, launching a web series that becomes an overnight success and suddenly people all over the world are sharing it and talking about it. Yeah. And then that success comes with an immediate

$15,000 bill. Well, if I remember correctly. For like two months later. Jesus Christ. We had to find hosting we found a service hosted like it had a web host server I think it was in Houston yeah but then it was like that server which is another one there Eric oh this is cool these are great but there was too much traffic for that one

data center so we had to get a second one on the west coast and then a third one on the east Jesus Christ so we had three different so when you went to our website to download videos it'd be like there were quote-unquote mirrors it was like download the video from west coast download the video central download the video east coast and that's why it ended up being $15,000 in a while. Wow! But I will say very quickly there people emerged to help us. Is that right? Yeah. I don't know if we've talked about that too much. Well, first we tried to, we taught people

how to use BitTorrent. Yeah. And we would take the files home and then point them at ourselves. Hell yeah. From our home internet connection. Right. Which was terrible.

Yeah. But yeah, then we had different groups or different people step up to help us with free and or discounted hosting. Yeah, we had some really good discounted hosting in Sacramento and then some free hosting in a couple other places. Yeah, I think we talked about the Microsoft one before. We did, we did. Made a big difference though.

And it was great for us because I think somebody from Microsoft, guess you can correct me, my memory is so faulty, came to us and said, listen, we need to test out some new servers. We want to load test some new servers. We need the kind of traffic you guys are sending. Wow, really? Yeah, we'll host it so that you can help us test out. Oh, I've never heard about this.

Yeah, so the Microsoft web services, back then, I don't know what it's called anymore. It was called IIS, Internet Information Service or something like that. Anyway, yeah, they would test new bills of IIS on some of our file servers that we were serving stuff with. And actually, one of the of IIS on some of our file servers that we were serving stuff with.

And actually, one of the times I was up at Microsoft, I got to see our actual server there. Oh, really? Yeah, I went to the data center with some of the guys. And I think I have a picture of it somewhere. That was cool. Yeah. So it was good for them just to get tons of traffic.

Yeah. That's crazy. Tons of traffic wasn't necessarily easy to come by back then, you know? Yeah, exactly. And it was kind of, well, it was definitely before YouTube, so streaming video wasn't a thing. Right. It's a huge pain in the ass. I hate it. It's funny, I felt like it took much longer to walk on the back road than it did. Well, we went all the way down to go around to come back.

That's why I said let's start walking back, because I thought it was going to take forever. It took like three minutes. No, it's super fast. I feel why I said let's start walking back. I thought it was going to take forever. It took like three minutes. No, it's super fast. I feel like I'm kind of an idiot here. We'll chill by the car because we got to talk about figure eight. Do we? We should also find out how the audience like, like, do they like this? Maybe we should do more walk and talk episodes.

I hope they like it. I like it. We're not getting feedback. And I was going to say, and by the time we hear from the audience, we will have done probably the whole season. That's a good point. That's true. That's a good point. That's true. That's a good point. So there you go. Yep.

I really like the walk and talk. Like this is great. This is fantastic. I like the design of this figure eight. Me too. I like all the art and everything. This used to be a place called Sweet Ritual. Yes.

Which was like a vegan ice cream shop. Yes it was. I was around for quite a while. I thought they did some interesting stuff where, you know, of course they were like the vegan ice cream shop. Yes, it was. I was around for quite a while. I thought they did some interesting stuff where, you know, they were, of course, they were like the vegan ice cream shop, but they also held classes and did like seminars and how to start your own vegan ice cream shop. Did you ever go to one?

No, but it costs a good amount of money. It's like if you're starting a business, you pay them. Yeah. Did they move over here? Did they move or did they close? No, they just closed down. No, I think they have it. Don't they have another location or was that the only one? That was the only one. Oh, wow. They posted that, you know,

of course, pandemic was rough, but some of their big suppliers for their process were located in Ukraine. Oh, Christ. And after the war started there, it became difficult and or prohibitively expensive to get supplies from Ukraine anymore. That's crazy. Like they couldn't source new stuff so they ended up having to close down. Wow. That's nice. Thanks, Putin. Yeah. But what about soup peddler? Soup peddler is good. They're solid. I feel like they used to cycle through more of a variety of soups in the past. I feel like they've slimmed down their offerings. Well, they used to be a different kind of service too, right?

Like you would order soup and they would deliver it to you. Yeah, you would leave- Oh, like they would- Like it would bike to you? Yeah, so you would leave, like you would say like, I want my soups delivered on Tuesday or whatever. Give me my soups on Tuesday. They wouldn't give it to you.

The way it worked was, because I used them for a while back then when they were like that, is you had to put an ice chest on your front porch. Or by your front door. With a milkman? Right, and they would come and they would leave the soup. They wouldn't knock, they wouldn't talk to you.

They would just come, they would leave the soup in the cooler and then take off. Like they just, like they would just go ahead to keep going. Oh man, what time does a soup man get here? So you don't have to worry. So it's like you would go out to work or whatever, because what are the odds you're going to be there when the soup guy shows up?

Yeah. Then you come home from work, all your soup's's like you would go out to work or whatever, because what are the odds you're going to be there when the soup guy shows up? Yeah. You come home from work, all your soup's fine in the soup. I work from home, so I'm watching out the window for the soup man. I'm watching for the soup man on his little soup bike. Well, they have, I don't know if they even still do that anymore, because they have like five locations, like brick and mortar.

Yeah. Yeah, I think back then when they did that, they had, there was no location you could go to. Like they had like a commercial kitchen where they made everything, but there was no, I think their first location was our old tattoo shop. It was. That was the first one. Oh, really?

Yeah. It was like 12. That's crazy. Yeah, this seems like a plate. Like, Suit Peddler to me just strikes me as like a like, hey, I work at an office and I need a lunch. I'm going to get half a sandwich and a minestrone. Like that is, that seems like the mood now.

I don't know it as a soup man delivery service. I guess in a smaller Austin, you can bike around with some soup and that feels like what Austin used to be. That is definitely what Austin used to be. A guy biking around with soup. It's probably also a lower cost business to operate. You don't have to worry about like maintaining a dining area.

It's true. So you just have to have, make a couple giant vats of soup and hire a guy on a bike. Yeah. Having to repeat soup as a business like crux is so fucking funny. I mean if soup is your passion right? I got six big vats of soup and I don't know what my business model is. Get on your bike and ride.

This then Fat Bottom Girls bike queen comes on. You guys ever go to the Grand? Used to. Yeah. Not a lot. Yeah, I was gonna say, I can't imagine that you've been out. I've been here a couple of times, but yeah, it's been a long time.

Probably like seven or eight times. It's a billiards hall, I guess you would call it. It's just a bar with a bunch of pool tables. This didn't used to be a shopping center you'd want to hang out in. It is really, even from the time that I moved here to now it's come up. Yeah, and so the grand was like the opening salvo of that.

So I'd come every once in a while to play pool. I don't like pool halls in general. I wish I did. Yeah, same. I wish I did. I find them. Seems seems like a seems like a place that I would definitely hang out in. Fucking love. And yep. And then I just I come here and I go, I guess it's not for me. Yeah, I'm not gonna pull. So it's like, I don't I don't need to be humiliated enough in my day to day. I think I don't like activities. Activities suck. That's what I'm saying. Like, I think it stems from my board game thing.

It's not necessarily that I hate a board game. It's that I'm not a big activities guy. I wanna hang, like I love hanging out like this. If we were in there, this is all I would wanna do. And then if somebody goes, hey man, let's shoot some pool. All of a sudden we're not doing this, we're doing that. And I don't like doing that. I like doing this. And if we're not doing that, we're in the way of somebody trying to get shot. man, let's shoot some pool. All of a sudden we're not doing this. We're doing that. And I don't like doing that. I like doing this.

And if we're not doing that, we're in the way of somebody trying to get a shot. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought I'm not a big activities guy. You go to a party and someone's like, oh, I got like this video game going. It's like, yeah, but I just want to just hang out. Yeah. I want to get,

I want to get blackout drunk on Tom Collins. Hell yeah. What is this? 1999? God damn right. We should probably wrap up a little bit. I think we're probably pretty close to time. Like 50 minutes? Yeah, so what do you guys think of a figure eight coffee

over in the airport? What did I give it last week, 8.5? Yeah, it's like the exact, it's the exact same thing. Should we check and see if there's any other locations for next week? I think there's- Well, I wanted to go to Lazarus next week, but it's fine, we don't have to.

It's, I mean, it's consistent. I think that's what you were talking about before. It's the exact same cup of coffee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do we want to go to Rudy's for the next one? Yeah. They can't stop us. Do you want to? Big tooth can't stop us.

It's two guys who started the company with, oh, they can't stop us from eating breakfast tacos. You know, I still laugh a little bit at the founders thing, because Gus and I definitely could call ourselves founders, but that was not a thing that was said until like 12 years in. And Gus and I only started calling ourselves founders because Bernie kept saying it all the time. We'd go like, wait a minute, we're founders too. I felt like I had to claim it.

Yeah. I definitely felt like we had to claim it. Yeah, just to make sure that there was external to claim it. Yeah. Oh yeah, I definitely felt like we had to claim it. Yeah, just to make sure that there was external recognition as well. Yeah. It was definitely a very conscious move to start using that title more frequently. Yeah. It definitely wasn't the way things were said back in the old days.

Well, of course not. But when you start getting external people in, and that's the way people refer to you, and then one of the few of you starts also saying it, you kind of have to start saying it. Yeah. Your for your hand is forced a little bit, I think, into that situation. I do that. Yeah. I don't I don't think I think if it was the two of you, I don't think that would have been a thing that was said. But I think there were other people that probably said it. I think if I remember right, I think it was like a conscious decision on my part. And I think there were other people that probably said it a little bit more. Yeah, I think, if I remember right,

I think it was a conscious decision on my part, and I think that week I told Jeff, like, hey, I'm gonna start using this title a lot more. Yeah, I remember the conversation. And I was like, I don't want you to weird it out. I was like, I think you should be using it too. Oh wow, really? It was in the dark office, right?

So you guys talked about it, like you two. Well, because it was out of left field. I didn't want him to be like, why the fuck are you saying this all of a sudden? I was like, I wanna make sure. Because it was so weird, because it's not how things work. Yeah, right. Yeah, it was definitely like, why the fuck are you saying this all of a sudden? I was like, I want to make sure. Because it was so weird. It was not how things work. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

It was definitely like, hey, I'm doing this. And I think you probably should too. Yeah. I'm going to start making Mega64 refer to themselves as founders. Rocco, Derek and Sean are founders. And I want them to rub it in Garrett's face. He's been there.

He's been there since like almost the beginning. And it's like, ah, yeah. Not the beginning. Not the beginning. That's almost the beginning. And it's like, ah, yeah. Not the beginning. Not the beginning. That's almost the beginning. Yeah. He makes you almost a founder. Yeah.

You can put that on a business card, I guess. So figure eight, good spot. I think that this was a better cup of coffee than I had last week. Oh, interesting. I think the other location might have like a better place to hang out. Yeah.

Oh, there's a way better spot. It's a a better place to hang out. Yeah. Oh, the there's a way better spot. It's a way better spot to hang out over there. It's a coffee shop in a stripper. I mean, yeah, this is. Yeah. Unless you want to go get a cup of coffee and walk inside the dominoes, you're kind of your S.O.L. Like it's just it is what it is. But but the inside of this one,

this is what new coffee shop is to me, where the other one is what old coffee shop is to me. The other one was cluttered. There's stuff. Here's wine. We just have stuff. Oh, are you in the way? Yeah. All right, cool. You moved? Yeah, you're still in the way. It's like, oh, fuck, I'm at a coffee shop. This is like, bright. It does that. I think Millennials, as far as like colors or whatever, had like that blue and pink sort of vibe or whatever, like that Neon-y whatever. This is very Gen Z where it's like that peach and te's a little character guy and it's just that kind of thing where the other one feels way more Gen X where it's just like, it's dark. Yeah, deal with it. Get your coffee.

There's a bunch of burlap bags full of beans on the ground you gotta step around. It's definitely just a different vibe, but I think they're both equally cool. I think they're both nice. Yeah, they're both great cups of coffee. My coffee was identical, nine. Yeah, cool. Exact same cup of coffee. I think figure eight. nice. Yeah, they're both great cups of coffee. My coffee was identical, nine. Yeah, cool. Exact same cup of coffee. I think figure eight, way to go, two locations.

Hey, when they open a third, we'll be there. Listen, I think I have a solution for one of our problems here. Okay. We need more tape. We need to tape. We need to tape the tape down. Oh.

Then the outer tape falls and the inner tape stays. Okay, I think I might just do chalk, but that's up to you if you want to drive around with chalk on your tire. That's, I'm just trying to save you from tire chalk. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out for sure. Thing at Rudy's barbecue next week,

we make these breakfast tacos happen. What do you think about that? I think that's a great idea. Yeah? We want to do the, what, I guess the one on the lake? I want a big potato. I want a breakfast big potato. Okay, I mean, that's not-

You get potatoes in your breakfast taco, so yeah, it's not a weird thing. Do you think they'll have a big potato. I want a breakfast big potato. Okay, I mean that's not- You get potatoes in your breakfast taco, so yeah, it's not a weird thing. There you go. Do you think they'll have the big potato at like 9 a.m.? Yeah. Why not? I don't know. I don't know how Rudy's works.

I have no idea. You both fucking jumped on me about it. We might have to go to lunch. Yeah, we'll see. We'll figure it out. But that's next week. That's next week's problem. You guys want to follow us on social media.

I don't know what that is yet. We should get that. Yeah, go to the description. It'll be in the description. We had an animal social media, right? Right, but we're gonna change the name because the name of this is different. So if we just said, keep going,

it's like how we still have at fuckface pod on Instagram because some fucking donts stole these other names and we had to do all this run around stuff. Hey guys, don't worry. I took the URL so some other fan couldn't have it. Great. Okay, so what, so now you, now you're just- So how do we get it from you?

Yeah, so- Oh, I don't know. Yeah, so now you're just that guy. You dummy. Yeah, I called Gavin a numpty not too long ago. I feel like I've been trying to like, I'm like easing that one in. Like numpty feels good, but I don't think, but I'm not British so it doesn't feel like it has like the same punch you know what I mean? Numpty. Okay he like whispered into himself. I was like trying

to figure out how do you workshop? I gotta, that's good. Well keep working on it we'll see it next week. All right I'll have a perfected next week. Well that's good morning guys, you guys any any final thoughts for the folks at home? I hope you're having as enjoyable of a summer as we are. Great summer. Yeah. Appreciate the reasonable hosting fees. Summer's back, baby. Why? You