Another Below Deck Podcast - A Dangerous Trip to Libya | Below Deck Med S11 E12

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

Dylan and Pat are back to break down kidnappings, restraining orders, Barbara Streisand, pasta, Terrence Malick, Jimmy Choo, penises, eugenics, Mike The Situation and more from Bravo's Below Deck Mediterranean. The guys also welcome on charter guest Tiara Denee Wilkins for a little while so she could share her experience being on the show, interacting with the crew, and not being fed properlyFollow charter guest Tiara on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiaradeneewilkins/PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

It is so unbelievably pathetic that these two men are as insecure in their sea rat stations as they are. This is not two warring titans of industry going after one another. These are two fucking decades. I'd have more respect for two dudes that owned yogurt shops on the same street, fighting it out on the sidewalk. 100%. At least you've got brick and mortar. They're undercutting your dairy prices. They're slashing the delivery trucks tires. This is war.

These two are literally playing checkers with one another and trying to kill the other person. Hey, hey, hello, welcome to Bad TV. I'm Dylan, that is Pat. Permission to come aboard. Our esteemed producer, Kalen, is here. He is jacked up on caffeine. Right now, how are you, Kailen? Caffeine and nicotine.

Double banger. Just a couple of guys in here. Just a couple of 2026 males overdosing. overdosing on caffeine and nicotine. But that's not what this show is. This show is, this show is, what is this show?

It's a lot of things. Right? I'm pretty sure we have a international kidnapping rescue plan in the works. I don't know what you're talking about. Max, he's going to save his father. Oh, oh. You know, it's unbelievable.

His father, that he didn't, even have a relationship with. But he's going to redeem his father by actually being a good son and showing him what it is to care for someone. Now, Max is going to get to Libya. He's going to snake his way through the perilous kind of

Temple of Doom obstacles. He's going to get to Tunisia and he's going to get to the location where his father is. What he's going to find, there are people blown away that he fell for it. Your dad is in Paris somewhere. We were just throwing out lures. You're just supposed to send us money.

You're not supposed to make it all the way here. I mean, I only thought that people with wearable emergency buttons fell for this. But no, in fact, a young man is going to travel through the Middle East to go find his father, who again is in Paris. We pray for Max. We're big prayer people. I don't know why I said that. Pat, go ahead and plug what we got coming up.

Sure. Okay. So in the middle of this episode, we will have a charter guest interview. It's been a minute. It's charter guest here. She is a lovely person. She'll give you the breakdown on that infamous lunch time period

where they asked for cheeseburgers and got, well, they got told no. But then I think eventually they did. get the cheeseburgers. But anyway, it's fun interview, and that'll be in the middle of the episode. Yeah, and we would encourage all charter guests. If you were on this show, it's imperative that you go on our social media and just fight with strangers. That's how we connected, actually. Yes. Very important that if you're going to be on this show, find our little Instagram page and then just fight with strangers. To be fair, she just said, she liked our clip, and then a bunch of strangers

fought with her. Fight back. That's true. That's right. Fight for yourself. Get in the mud. It helps you. It helps us.

It helps everybody. It is a rising tide. That kind of conflict. Kay, how are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm loving this new studio. Okay, great. Yeah, go to YouTube.

Check it out. Now, it's not finished. Looks great so far. Oh, does it? It's getting there. Yeah. We've got big projects coming in here. Yeah.

Now, Del, I don't know if you heard the news this week, but Nate, Oh, that's right. A piece of shit, Nate. We should talk about a piece of shit, Nate. I don't know if all the details are out yet. Right. He apparently assaulted a female. We do not know as of yet if it was Gail or some other.

No, I know we do. Is that for sure? Yeah, it's for sure because while it was an unnamed woman, the application of the complaint was you need to put your name down. And it turns out a quinkie-dink. name of the person that filled out. The report was the name of the person that he choked out, which was his girlfriend and the mother of his child. Oh, okay. Yeah. Wow. Okay. And regardless, do we, was it known that it was a woman? Yes, it was known that it was a female, but we didn't know

if there was some girl, new girlfriend that he was hanging out with. Okay. So, Gail or not, men putting their hands on women. I've never understood it. It's just one of the most unbelievably pathetic and minuscule things you could possibly do. And we've known that this kind of darkness resides in Nate for such a long time because he has such a Napoleonic complex because of the decaying roots of his hair. Now, now, now, we get that. You know, I'm thin and it happens, man, but you can't turn your animosity towards the world, right?

You have to tend to the garden within. But Nathan is a crow magnon like human being. whose knuckles are always on the floor, and those knuckles rose and attacked the woman he had a child with. Now, we'll find out what happens. Obviously, everybody is granted their day in court, but jail for a certain amount of time, if it proves to be true.

And I got to tell you, I am so looking forward to the victory lap that Joe is going to be taking next season. My God. Isn't it weird? It's odd how this show, it's almost, it is Game of Thrones. It's Game of Wars.

It's game of wars. You hate someone, then suddenly you hate someone way more, and that makes the other person less hateable. Ah, my God, the twists and turns. Right, right. Yeah, this episode was great. We got that love triangle because Jen's going after Cooper. Oh, my gosh, what a rotten, what a rotten egg that Jen is.

We have, of course, I pointed out, we have Max probably leaving the boat soon to try and save his father who never loved him. Right. We have Game of Wars for that Boeson position. Yeah. This show's fucking nuts. I love it. We have Aisha's noodles. We have Hannah's boobs, Queen Boobie, as Max calls her.

Oh, yes. And then we get that look back. That was our first season of Below Deck Met, I believe. Was it really? We had Chef Asia. And I never knew that on a five-star luxury yacht that you could have someone that was folding towels an hour earlier, you could promote them. To cooking food for people paying a lot of money.

Yeah, and that was back in the day where the people that went on the boat, this was pre-foody craze. It was just kind of starting, right? And so, Kaelan, are you okay? You're freaking me out. I'm just changing the camera. Okay. That was in a day where we could have guests come on board,

and they could have someone who was cleaning shit off a toilet, make them overcooked steak and mashed potatoes, and they were so wasted and tongueblind that they said, this is the best food I've ever eaten. Now, we've upgraded a little bit to where we're now serving, I don't know, you got to put a Bernays out on the table if people are going to say this is a good steak. You know, it's just, we've elevated, and it makes me sad.

But we are here to break down this episode. Pat, how many eat pots would you give? Excellent episode, one of the best of the season, 14 knots. And I agree with you. It was one of the best of the season. It is such a joy to, my favorite part of the episode was Nate's conversation with Sandy, wherein she showed him photo evidence of what a Dick Bosen he was. And he said, it is that way because I requested it.

Just yummy amounts of awkwardness. Couldn't happen to a worse guy. And we'll find out what happens in the court filings later. I give this episode 100 pots. Let's get into it. So, Max is torn. He's received an offer from Nate. He can't refuse. He wants to be Lee Deccan,

but to take that position, that would mean betraying his friend Joe. Now, meanwhile... This is the moral quandary of the game of wars. This is what separates the wheat from the chaff. And I don't... I really have never known what chaff is. But if...

If you are to win the game of oars, you have to lay waste and move on from the bodies behind you. Joe is a crash test dummy if Max wants to succeed. If Max wants to soar to the great heights that he spoke of, Deccan lead Deccan bosun billionaire, he has to kill Joe. That's right. Okay. You have to step over people. Now, meanwhile, in the galley, Joy is grappling with her own issues.

One million pastas. Well, she needs to feed charter guests with a myriad of food requests. Her solution to this is to throw 300 pounds of pasta at them like she's at John Gotti's house on a Sunday. This is America. And soup. This is America. Don't got you slipping up. What we need to do if we're ever confused about how to feed Americans is,

give them buckets of carbohydrates with some kind of sauce on top. Masking the ballistic missile that is the true nature of the meal. Okay? That's how you feed Americans. Now, Joy needs to get her pride out of here. Okay? You can't do this. We're going to do tempe and tacos.

We're going to do cured watermelon. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Back up a brink struck and dump the pasta on the table. And don't forget that. goddamn soup, Dylan. And the customer is always right. Yeah. I want to say that Bunny said it was the best soup she ever had. So you shut your mouth. We get ready for dinner. We have dramatic shots of getting ready. And someone says, Jace, you were iconic. Jace is not iconic. Um, Barbara Streisand is iconic.

Hmm. Right, Kaelan? Of course. Yes. There's also a bitch. Oh, my God. So I've heard. Many people when I was in the music business. So is Jay's. They had to work with her. She one time was going to record in the studio for a week.

And she got pictures of what the studio. She demanded that they redo the area that she'd have to sit in for five minutes probably before she'd go into the vocal booth. Yeah. Well, Babs needs to be comfortable. You can't. I tell the story all the time. But my brother used to run the Echo Plex on Sunset, Sunset Boulevard. And Beck, I'm a little bit.

loser baby, Beck. Also, I've heard, is a complete dick. Yeah, he was scared of steps so he could only go up ramps. Now, when you ascend to great heights like Max wants to, you turn into a fucking lunatic and you start saying things like, I can't sit in there, there's too much of this fabric. This is where I wish I owned a grizzly bear and just Beck standing by the stage. And I just let my grizzly bear out and said, Beck! Yeah.

Run! Right. Or you go back. Unfortunately, my grizzly bear, Omar, is sitting on the steps or on the ramp, so you're going to have to take the steps. Let's see what happens. I bet you go up the steps. Now, the Charlie gas order.

Kalen, what's your favorite animal? Octopus. Very intelligent animals. I think that's a really good pick. Dylan, are you familiar with the cocktail porn star? Yes. We've talked about that vile concoction many times on this show. have. Yes. In fact, I think that, and we've gotten a lot of new listeners, so I'm not saying that

I am protesting what you're about to do, but it's important maybe semi-annually to break down the ingredients that go into a porn star. It is a martini. It is passion fruit liqueur, passion fruit puree, lime juice, finella simple syrup. And this is what's fun, is when you make all this, you do a sidecar of a shot glass of dry sparkling wine, Prosecco, champagne. That just sounds fun, but I think I just want one of these. Yeah, because if you do have more than one,

what nets out is incredibly loose stool. No one feels good about that. It's always a kind of knuckle-curling thing to go through, but no one can say that a side car is not a showstopper. I mean, when you go out and you order a marty, with a sidecar, whether it's diarrhea juice or not, you're having a good time. Now, I will say for these charter guests, between the 400 pounds of pasta and this particular drink, whatever is going to be happening in their body, it's going to be at odds with itself.

Oh, a real bitch's brew, a nightmare of stuff, residing, taking up residence in the lower intestinal only to be shot out like a fucking circus cannon. Now, Jen, have a good time with that. We, I do have to say, it's very annoying from the charter guests. They go, Kaylee goes up there, says, would anybody like a cocktail? And they say, do you have anything with passion fruit? Now, I understand that if you're at some kind of newfangled apothecary in the arts district, you can go up to a bartender and go, I love passion fruit, I love cinnamon and nutmeg,

can you do anything with that? And they can't. But this is, if you were confused about the rice cake with avocado on top from the evening before, this is not really the place for you to hand over your culinary vacation to the sea rats. You might want to say, I'd like a martini or something like that. But luckily, Aisha is there to connect the dots to Porn Star. And they have a great meal that includes chicken Alfredo, lobster pasta, Pesto pasta, like we said,

this is what you do. Defrost sea bugs, boil them, and put them on top of pasta. Enough with the creativity. Nope. Dinner was a fucking hit, man. Now,

you got a James Cameron these dinners. Don't go Terence Malicking all over the place, right? We don't want the thin red line. We don't want it. have a filmmaker that gives the audience exactly what it came for. Yes. And then you have Terrence Malick a...

A challenger. A person who challenges the audience not to walk out on that movie. Yeah, you got Brad Pitt. He's just trying to pay taxes. And then you are all of a sudden watching a pterodactal and have its life spared. In a babbling brook, you go how these two things connect. And Terence Malick says, think about it. We don't want that.

We want the seafood defrosted. We want it boiled. We want it on top of pasta. Okay. Give me Terminator 2. I'm paying for Terminator 2. Exactly. Now, meanwhile, in the galley, Jen hits on Cooper.

She's really putting it on strong here. And he's not pushing her way because... He's a pig. Well, according to him, he doesn't want to give away the secret. The secret relationship. and him telling Jen to bug off might jeopardize everything that he and Kat had been working towards. You know, FBI agent Joe Pistone, the guy who created the alias, Donnie Brasco, he left his family and friends and everyone for five years to work undercover to infiltrate

the Bonano of Crime Family. I think it's just like that. I was going to say this secret is a little bit like a vaudeville. But way dumber. A vaudevillian bank robbing act where they're painted. his bricks and they kind of float in. You're like, you can see, you're a giant Italian guy. I mean, we can see that you are with Kat because your mics are on while you're making

out. Cooper's glee when Jen is hitting on him, listen, it's always flattering to have somebody come up to you and say, you know, I'd like to, I don't think Jen's quite gotten to, you know, the lewd thing that I was going to say, which was a tonguing of some orifice. I don't know why I go there. but Jen is really laying it on pretty thick and Cooper is just over the moon with himself and he's not hiding it very well. I'm sick of the production gassing this guy up. I'm excited to see the kid Icarus descent to the fucking ground in the seasons to come because Cooper

cannot keep up this charming Southern boy for a long time. You always say you're as good as your options and when you are residing in Cape Hatteras or wherever the fuck they are, your options are a little bit limited. When you're on national television and your Instagram starts 20, 30,000, 40,000, now Cooper is going to become somebody else. We'll see the real hand. We'll see. So we make a little econ club cake.

Now, we love Joy. I think Joy is extremely talented. She had a tough go with this. She didn't have her chief stew. She had a very challenging group of people with dietary restrictions, even though really wasn't that challenging. There was just a vegan and a gluten-free person. This cake looks like a substitute teacher came in for a week at kindergarten and said,

we're not learning anything. We're going to be baking cakes. It looked like griddle cakes stacked on top of one another. It looked like a drunk child. It was an odd looking cake. Dare I say it looked delicious because I go to a lot of kids' birthday parties. So it worked for me. Now, Jen says, Cooper, you smell really good.

And he says, that's Jimmy Chew. Southern boy wearing Jimmy Chew Cologne is. Maybe his aunt got him for Christmas. Make that make sense. Okay. But Jen says, that's sexual. And he says, you threw my burgers away. And she says, you weren't in a rush.

Yeah. We'll get to Jen's desired companion where she lays out, you know, the meme 6-2 finance, that kind of thing. These two flirting with each other, because let's not get it twisted. Cooper is flirting with Jen. I believe so. 100%. Jen, when, and we always say this, and we should go much harder on the, boy, see rats than we do the ladies of this show. But Jen, while being a very, very young

woman does have a heart of darkness, a Conrad like monstrosity resides within her. And she is, yes, only 22, but there's a certain thing where you see a child and you go, well, that's that, right? A two-year-old is themselves. Jen should work on the darkness, but she, I fear, may not shed it so easily because what she's doing here is not being a girl's girl to a girl that has really been there for her the entire charter. And that is, give me a G, give me a rose. That's gross. I agree. Okay. I agree. It says something about a character. Kaelin, what did you think about that cheer? Oh, it was fantastic. Thank you. Well, very positive. Should we get to the next day?

Let's get to the next day. Next morning! Sandy's got some starboard stuff that she's got to do. and she's also getting a bachelorette party up and off the ground now sandy is not going to have any penises at this bachelor's party because oh well she's um she plays for the other team she plays for the other team but not she hasn't always though right um she's attracted to what comes from the heart as she explained to us on a previous episode yeah and also penises are disgusting yeah so kaelan you think penises are disgusting. Yeah, they're pretty gross. Not mine. Yeah, it is. I hate to break it to you. It's not so much a penis. A penis is there's, you know, just give me a sec. You don't want to talk to your therapist about this. Can't afford her. She's just, the dream analysis is $300. I mean, I can't do that, right? That's nuts because this is a carnival act anyways, right? it's combined with the testicles.

The double dragon of it all is what makes it really disgusting. Joe's number one goal is to be a bosun. That's right. And, yeah. It goes up to Sandy and Sandy says, listen, Nathan's great and all, but you're ready. This is where I thought the decision had been made. It has been made. In Sandy's head, Sandy has this,

weird allegiance, this kind of like baby bird feeding relationship with Nathan, where she's just trying to pull him along. And I think that she's, she's realized that he's not going to get it really ever. But also, this is cemented by the competence of Joe while Nathan was away. Sandy's looking at this going, all right. I don't know what to do here. But, you know, it's a little bit like Harry McGuire being stripped of the captaincy. You know, it's just going to be awkward after that. You need a strong character to be demoted and to still stay motivated. Nathan is not that.

Well, a boat heads in, docks, and then Jen continues to flirt with Coop. And then the guest depart is, did I miss anything? Yeah, you missed Jacoya taking a photo, wherein she jumps off a couch and her friend takes a picture of her mid-air. You missed so you missed that. Oh. That was a tough watch. And I would look similar, right? When I say midair, I mean

centimeters off the ground. Oh. You'll be quick with your finger on that one. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Hold down the shutter speed because there's no way you can time that out. Okay.

So we doc. Joe is ready to be a bosun. Good job bosun. And the guest apart. Now the guest depart and they give Joy a compliment on their way out. They say, Joy, you were awful. but you really turned it around to which joy says thank you get the fuck out of here now pretty much hey pat yeah why don't we take a little break here and sit down for a nice little chat with

teara teera let's do it dude hi hello and welcome to a we haven't not done one of these in some time well bravo's always trying to stop us yes um bravo has always recommended a stifling of speaking to the people who know intimately well about the quality of these vacations. We have one of them with us today. It is Tierra joining us from a charter guest from the last episode, the most recent episodes of Below Deck. How are you today? I'm pretty good. How about you? Good. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. This is Tierra. Yeah. Well, I was going to say this is Tierra. This is part of Did I say, am I putting the wrong emphasis on the wrong A, Tierra? Tierra.

Okay, got it. Got it. Tierra. Yes. And this is. Do you remember when I said before we started? I got this. Yes, you did.

You remember that? Yes, yes. I don't think I had it. Well, I think this charter crew is most known by Bonnie. Mm-hmm. And this is the Econ Club. Yes. I want to get into the whole econ of it all.

But first, we want to ask. Overall, how was the vacation? If you could give it a score of one to 100 pots, what would you give it? Overall, my actual experience on the boat out of, out of what, out of five out of ten? A hundred pots. Oh, out of 100. Excuse me. I would give it a 80%.

80 pot. Wow. Okay. That's a B minus. What were the areas that were lacking a little bit? where do the deductions come from well you know the elephant in the room uh the food there was a little bit of a mix up but you know we did we did have some redemption um so yeah all right let's let's tease this a little bit so the way that tiara and i connected was we posted a clip on social which was

um uh a clip about that what are we talking about well the clip that we posted on social was us talking about how the chef was pushing back against preparing some snacks for them. Yeah, and we love Joy, but Joy had a lot of crispy rice to prepare. That's right. So she refused or kind of pushed back against the idea of giving the charter guests some cheeseburgers or shrimp hours before dinner. And this is what Below Deck does. We know that Joy is an incredibly talented chef and a wonderful person. but the halls and byways of these vessels drag you into hell.

You lose sight of who you are. You lose sight of your talent. I mean, look at joy. She walks into this. Just firmly ready to cook. And then next thing you know, she's distracted by crog. And she's making crispy rice with avocado on it. They don't even like avocado.

No, she's distracted by a man that came on his roommate's bed sheet. And the next thing you know, she is a shadow of her former self. Now, so we connected on the. social. We posted a clip, Dylan, you aptly pointed out that the crew kind of takes pride in the fact that the reason

they deserve tips is because they give seven star service by horseshit, by dressing up in party city discontinued costume. Dressing up like Dragon. Yes.

And like dating relay races or We just wanted to putting on games like traders. Tierra, you just wanted a cheeseburger. We just wanted a cheeseburger. Like I said, I want a cheeseburger. Like I just patty real quick, sticking between some bread, I was good.

And that is what will make you happy, right? So that got a lot of people talking in the comments. And that's how Tierra and I connected. So can you run us through that day? You guys get on the boat. Is there any food for you when you guys arrive on the boat? Yes, there was a small tray of apples and raspberries and there was more avocado and some very crispy chips. Okay.

And then what looked like, I don't know, some lettuce and things. It was like PTA meeting refreshments. Okay, so let's run through that. So there's apples, raspberry, avocado, lettuce, and crispy chips. Now, you say crispy chips, you said crispy with a little bit of animosity. There's good crispy, there's bad crispy. What kind of crispy are we talking about? I mean, I was scared I was going to break a tooth.

I'm not even going to lie. Okay. It sounded like it was too crispy. Yeah. Okay. It was given crunchy. Got it. Now, what time do you guys arrive on the boat?

I think it was around noon, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. That would be around lunchtime. Okay. So I believe the issue was the next day. Maybe it was the same day. We don't watch the show very closely. But I do.

There's, you guys are wanting some refreshments in the middle of the day. You're told that you can't. Yeah. You have breakfast. And then what, food wise, how long before dinner is the request for the cheeseburgers? Are we looking at a five-hour? stretch where we're not going to be eating anything. What did that look like? Yeah, it was at least five hours. I'm not remembering the time like right on, but I know for a fact, I remember thinking in

my head, like, we have five hours until dinner. And so we were like, hey, can, you know, we got champagne on the walk in. We were getting, we were getting drinks. There weren't any outside other snacks other than the refreshments that we had. So we were like, hey, can we just get some quick food? because it's going to be at least five hours until dinner. And then, you know, that's the scene that you saw. And that was me asking for a cheeseburger. And this one was asking for shrimp. And then we were told me.

Tierra, did you have those silly sunglasses on? Are you talking about the silver ones? Yeah, we're the silver ones. No, that was one of the twins. I think it was the boy. That was one of the twins. Okay. This is what I want to point out about this show.

If the show wants to put its own, out there is kind of we're a half-ass group of people that just kind of like dial phoned it okay then fine but if you're going to put yourself out there as a seven diamond seven star service seven diamonds yeah whatever then when people show up on the boat and ask for a fucking cheeseburger five hours before dinner yeah you should you should provide it now in the comments we were like that's a crazy ask because there's only one chef well my thing is, then get one of the stews to cook a fucking cheeseburger. Tierra, were you, were you hungry for most of the vacation?

That first day, yes. So the day that you guys saw, yes. It's a hallmark of a good vacation is hunger. Yeah. And I mean, I was like, wow, we're off to a great start. But I can't recall the other days if I'm not, I don't really remember. I'll tell you the second day. I remember that first day because I was starving.

The second day, Joy had really cracked the code. She said, I know what the solution is. I'm going to throw 1,400 pounds of pasta at the charter guest like you're at a mafia's funeral. Yeah. And that will shut you up. Yeah. And, you know, to be fair to Joy, I want to go through the dietary restraints of your group. And I also want to talk about the initiative that you guys are all a part of because I don't understand what's going on in any way, shape, or form.

That's not your fault. It's just we kind of glossed over it. And it's confusing. But before we get there, you guys are a tricky bunch. So how many, what is happening here? Do we have vegans that eat meat because that's not vegan? Do we have gluten-free people that like the pasta? Because I'm also, that's rattling me.

So what's going on with the dietary restrictions? So only two of us were vegan. Okay. And even in the show, Chef Joy said, oh, my gosh, I should have thought about the fact that they were asking for shrimp and burgers and they all weren't vegan. Right. So she even says that. So the rest of us ate me.

Okay. So those were the restrictions. I'm allergic to tomato. Bunny is allergic, has a seafood allergy. So a lot of our preferences were real allergies. Like we're going to be, they were going to be calling whatever. number 911 equivalent in Croatia if we ate some of that stuff. Yeah.

So that was kind of what was going on with the preferences. But yeah, there were only two vegans out of the group. Can I, can we drill down on the tomato allergy a little bit? Wow, what is shitty allergy to have first? Okay. So thoughts and prose for that. What happens if you encounter a tomato in the wild? I break out into hives like everywhere, like all over my face, like my arms, like everywhere.

Does that my go? Like, no ketchup? No ketchup. No ketchup. Yeah, I don't eat pizza. Like, obviously, pasta sauces that are tomato-based. So I have a hard time when I go to, like, Mexico. Can I tell you something?

That means you're going to be thin for the rest of your life. No, stalsas? For the rest of my life. Oh, my God. Wow. You know, you don't know. Because I can't have half the food. Holy shit.

Wow. All right. Wow. Wow, that's a certain kind of cross to bear. Okay, well, let's talk about what is, what is the company that you guys are with? Because it's a very, very admirable thing that you guys are doing. I don't want to sound like too massive a dickhead. It sounds, to me, it's a little at odds.

Well, distribution and going on a yacht seem like counterproductive things. But I, again, I don't know what's going on with the company. So, yeah, let us know. Tell us about it. Well, we were on the yacht because we were celebrating the launch of Econ Club. So Bunny teaches business owners, she has lots of high profile people that she worked with or excuse me, that they did work with and basically teach them about labor versus how much money you're making about the market, the value of money, things like that.

Got it. Yeah. All the stuff that we should be taught in high school that we don't get taught ever. so we're just in a black hole when we're adults. Yeah. They're the need for it for sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

That's really awesome that you guys do that. What's the distribution part? You have to ask Bunny about that part. Okay, we're going to talk about that. Can we talk about Jace? Jase was... All right, she's friends with him, by the way. Okay, I'm not a fan of Jace.

I don't know Jace, but he was really... He seems like the lowest wrong on the tunnel pole. He's just there to take pictures. I mean, it was like he was the primary. What's up with Jace? You really like him? sorry. No,

Jace is a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful person. Like, you guys only got to see an hour. You know what I mean? Like,

and you only got to see him speak for 30, 20 to 30 seconds at a time. Sure. Like, my experiences with him and what was shown on TV two completely different things. I have conversations with days. Like,

we laughed. We had lots of fun. Like, he's a joy. Like, don't hate him, no. Well,

hold on, hold on. Tierra, the only reason we're busing his balls is because he's framed as kind of a hired gun to capture the trip. And then suddenly he is at the table telling the, uh, the wait staff, the dinner sucks.

Okay. So, so here's the thing. And we fall into this trap a lot. And it's not so much of trap because we know that it's there. Okay. So we actually put our foot in there. So that's what we kind of do. as a job. The edit is very different than who the people are. We talk to C-Rads all the time,

who have gotten bad at it. The people that work on the boat. We talk to them. Oh, yeah, C-R-Rat's are the people that work on the boat. The people that served you, though, Christopher Rice with the watermelon on top of it. Those are eight times. Eight times. Those are C-Rats. Okay. So people get bad edits, and we have to go with what we see on television. Obviously, people are multivariate and nuance. I'm sure Jace is a lovely human being. but would you there are so many things how was the tour of that little town

was it just everything you thought it was going to be did you learn so much so we actually really enjoyed that excursion and I was really shocked we know we asked for that excursion so I was really shocked to see them show us bored or like looking bored even there's even like a clip that of me

like there was a shot of me just looking out into the air And I was like, oh my gosh, that was literally, like, after we were done and we had been walking for a while. Like, we were having so much fun. Like, there's so much that they didn't show. Like, I was playing volleyball. Like, I literally grabbed a volleyball from like one of the street markets and like was playing volleyball. The middle of street was one of the crew members. Like, it was, you know, we had a lot of fun.

So, yeah, we didn't get to, we didn't get to see that on TV. Interesting. I mean. I have a question for you, Tara. Once you leave the boat, do the cameras stop? filming. Once we leave the boat, do the camera stop filming?

Well, they, the charter guests leave. Yeah. Do they not do, do the cameras just bye? We're done with. Oh, any follow-ups with you guys or anything like,

what I don't understand that what. Well, I'm always curious, like just production, just go, bye guys, we're done. Well,

I guess you'll see yourselves on TV. Oh, yeah. What's the debriefing with production after the vacation's over? I don't know if I can speak on that. Oh. Oh.

Okay. Okay. All right. Got it. How long did you stay in Croatia? They lock them in a room. Oh, hey, shut the fuck up about this until it airs. And then after it airs, shut the fuck up about it.

Did you, uh, did you guys enjoy a few days in Croatia after the charter? We were there for a couple more days. And then, um, some of us, like went out to some other countries and toured. And then a couple of us had to go back home and work. But yeah, it was, it was nice being in Europe. That was my first time. Yeah, Europe's great. Yeah, it was beautiful.

I want to go back. How food in Croatia? What were you eating? Like croquettes and shit? Or is that what do you eat? Stoos? The hell do they eat over there? Honestly, a lot of things had tomato in it.

I'm telling you, I had never thought about a tomato allergy. That's a torture. That is fucking brutal. Holy shit. Tierra, I'm sure there's a medication you could take if you wanted to to help you eat tomatoes or not? Yeah, but I mean, why am I going to take something artificial so that I can eat something that's bad for me? Thank you. Thank you. All right. A couple more. He's an aspartame kind of man. But he'll live to 120. So that's just, you know, that's bad. All right. A couple more

questions. So quick hitters. We're going to go. Yeah, yeah. All right. So what do you do for a living? What do you? So I'm a personal trainer and then I also do like sports marketing and community management for different sports organizations. Great. What's your business? You want to promote it? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So Strong Women Eat is my fitness business. I'm a virtual personal trainer and I'll be putting out an app next month, a virtual fitness app. It's called Move Strong. Move Strong. How good is a two minute plank? Is a two minute plank? Is a two minute plank a good plank? It is. It is. You know, most people can't do a one minute plane. See that, dude?

Yeah. Look at you. You see that, dude? Fun fact. Fuck yeah. The question is, how many pull-ups can you do? None. At least 30. You can't do 30 pull-up. You couldn't do 30 pull-up.

I bet you I could. There's no way you could do 30 pull-ups. Get out of here. You see his sexy little frame. Do you think that he could do 30 pull-ups? I would need to do a movement assessment. I can't do it just based off of. how he looks um okay so overall back out that stuff book tiera for a personal training and we

have one last question would you ever book that charter again that was going to be my question too would you go back um no damn damn well we always say this i would down ding no from here one person in the comments was bitching they go you know what what they're asking for is something that you'd get at a resort. Yeah, this is a fucking floating resort. It's 50 times more expensive than a resort. Jesus Christ. Don't book these things. I just feel like, I mean, being, yeah, being told no to a burger is crazy. I agree. You know, especially when we haven't had food for a long time. Like, I think and I even, someone in the comments was like, oh, you know, I didn't realize you guys had lunch. And I was like, yeah,

honestly, you know, if time management was a thing and chef joy didn't, you know, if she was backed up on time and she didn't have time to do a whole lot, I would have been fine if they just stuck something, something between some bread and gave it to me. But, you know, the alternative was was cookies. Yeah, cookies and tempe. You guys ate a lot of tempe. Go check out. Everything the Tierra does, we're excited for this week's episode. Thank you very, very much for coming on the show. Any social handles or anything like that? got an IG? Yeah. So it's at Tierra Denae Wilkins on Instagram and at Tierra. Dot Dene on TikTok. Okay. Thank you very much for joining us. Get in the comments. Let us know what you thought about the interview. We love you very much. I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Pat, say goodbye. Later, dudes. Tierra say goodbye. Bye.

We get to what this charter instilled in Cayley. What the charter instilled in Cayley was this. I am not ready to do this. Okay. And we get to a little meanwhile here. Nathan is cleared to work. And an invite is sent out to Nathan. Come join us for a night out. Now, Nathan obliges. He says, that's a great idea.

Because Nathan is never one to shy away from a night of drinking and not caring for his child. So he is going to be, he's going to be a great boss. And we'll see how he does with the guy who, Oh, fuck it. Sandy says Joe is going to be a great post on one day. And we're going to have to see how he performs in the face of Nathan coming back. I love that line. And it really, I agree 100%.

And this is, Joe, I'm going to get into the 48 laws of power because if I liked you, I would have mailed you a book before this season, which would have involved me actually getting in a time machine, having gone to Barnes & Noble by the book, Holkishaw. Yeah. but get out of your own way shut your fucking mouth let this imbecile destroy his himself he's going to do it anyway you don't need to do it for him yeah the pettiness is dragging both of them down and sandy's sandy is turned into such a she's my favorite captain um she's moved up there i mean captain carey's still close to my heart but oh yeah captain carey's great but but he's not filming right now oh

then you said she's your favorite captain. But is he still on? Yes. They're the next season, the next cycle. Oh, I love captain. There you go. We got three great captains. We got three great.

They're all great. But Sandy recognizes that the thing that's going to separate Joe from Nathan is avoiding and not being concerned with the petty horse shit game of wars nonsense that these two play with one another. But that will play. play itself out. The tip is what? 21 grand, 16, 20 each. And then we get a reset. Kermit is back to Chief Stu. And Kermit's going to have her

bachelor's party. And Nate is coming back. And so he'll be back to being the Bosen. Now, because of this, Joe has to hold a little bit of a quorum with his boys. And he says, this is immediately following that tip meeting. He says, everybody huddle up. Nathan's coming back to this boat, all right? Let me tell you guys something.

When he comes back here, I mean, he really, Danny Zhu goes out here. He goes, I'm going to tell him what the fucking system is. You don't want to do his voice? No, I don't know. I can't really. It's my fucking boat.

We should, I'm good with just doing adjacent state. These are my protocols. Yeah. Okay. It's my way of the highway. I'm going to show him this. system. If he bucks,

I'm gonna fucking, I'm gonna fucking show him what the fuck is going on. They're like, Jesus Christ, what are you talking about? Oh, man.

I mean, we work on a boat, dude. Yeah, no, I know that. But if he comes back here and he gives me any gruff, I'm gonna fucking get in his fucking face.

It's like, okay. Shit, my God. Are you really gonna do that? I wonder how Sandy thinks Joe's doing so far with this test. Yeah. Not well,

bitch. Not well, bitch, let's get ready for a night out. Nathan is texting Max about wanting to take Max into his legion and Max refers to himself with um I think he's weighing what he should do at this moment. But Max is a very confusing moment here where he he recognizes that he's being used as a pawn. But in that he's very, he's very prideful. He says, I am an instrument in someone else's game. Now, usually when someone stumbles upon that truth, they grow resentful

towards the people that are maneuvering them around a chessboard of nonsense. But not Max. Max recognizes the power in his position. Correct. Yeah. Because there is power in knowing that you are in fact upon. Yes. If you are just haphazardly a pawn, getting moved around all over the place, you can't fight back.

But if you know, you can say, before you grab my head and put it in that device where you will separate my head from my neck. Right. I would like to say this. Most pawns are not afforded that opportunity. Let's get to the night out. All right. Now, Gail, it's important.

Oh, you forgot that Kermit called Scott and these two are so in love. They really are. There's not going to be a joke here. I have to say this about Kermit. I feel bad about calling her Kermit. She doesn't seem to have a problem with it. I've never seen a person be on reality TV this long. It's got to be like eight years almost.

And she's done, she's been on every single boat under each captain. Yeah. She stayed her genuine self the entire time. She's one of the most amazing people on reality television. It is a world littered with petty, small-minded, just gross people. And usually you have to. get in the muck to ascend. Asia has been just an orb radiating good energy the entire time she's been on the boat, which is going on a decade. While Pat refers to her as carbon and there's

some energy peaks that are overwhelming to us, we have to say that I don't think that there's been a greater person in the history of Below Deck. I mean, maybe Kate Chastain, but Asia is the queen of the show. Yes. No joke there. Just want to put that out there. She's a lovely person. Gail. Just had a baby. How do you look like this? How do you look like that? You just had a baby. It's unbelievable how gorgeous she is.

Jen. Flirts with Coop. Yeah, she goes, oh no, you're a messy sleeper. I don't know if this can work. There's this thing where, I think. think that women have probably experienced this on the other side when people are very overt in their flirtation it can be kind of an ick it's actually get the fuck away it can also be overwhelming so jen does the flirt thing she asks the questions a girl only asks when she's pretending to give a fuck so she can make you her boyfriend oh my god are you a light sleeper

wow uh yeah my my wife no are you a no they don't care anymore once they get you no no no no no no no They don't. So let's get ready for a night out. No, we are ready for a night out. We get to Sandy meeting Nathan and Gail. And this is the serving moment. I love this moment so much. He seems so insecure. There's so many dynamics taking place here at once. He's trying to feel her out, sense where her head's at. And so I forgot his throwaway line is, ah, I kind of screwed up or something like that. And she's like, yeah, you're a fuck up. You need to start listening to your crew. I mean, and not so many words. But that was the message. In so many words, you need to start listening to your crew. And she says, like we mentioned, she shows him pictures of the last that he has had weeks and weeks and weeks to organize. Now, Joe comes in and they instantaneously get the boat cleaned up. And Nathan, who again has not done it for weeks, says it is that way because I commanded it.

And Sandy is so awestruck by the stupidity of that statement. that she can't say anything. She just goes, I cannot believe what came out of this man's... I think she walks away and just says,

oh, great to see you, you, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is why, this is what I was talking about with Joe. Joe, just get the fuck out of his way.

Let this man push back against everything, let his incompetence and his insecurities destroy him. In other words, yes, just let him destroy himself. You don't need to do anything.

He is in a potato sack. Let him try to run. Let's get to Jen talking about her ideal man, who I'm going to call the invisible man or the hollow man, because she will never find him. Okay? She says, I want somebody 6-2. No one over or under 6-2

because I don't want any children who are weird and short. She then says that she wants somebody ripped all over. She wants somebody with blue eyes. Okay, Adolf. Now, I mean, no. No, but seriously, it's such a fucking weird eugenics. It's not that deep. But what is interesting about this laundry list of ideal qualities,

one, you're crazy and you're C rat. So why do you think you'd be attracting this kind of person? But two, you haven't listed one intangible thing about a partner once. Now, I know that she's still young and she's not really worried about finding the lifelong mate or anything like that. But there was no loyalty, there was no nice, there was no provider. It was just 6-3, big dick, muscles, and blue eyes. And in that, she is no different than somebody like Mike the situation.

I mean, this was like something that Mike the situation would say. Yeah, it was really crazy. What was their regiment when they'd go out on a Friday night? Tan. Jim Tan laundry. Derry. That's right. Jim Tan Laundry.

Wow. They had all the sayings, didn't they? Yeah, they really did. They had a really good time, and you would think that they would contract some kind of chemical bore and ailment because of all the things that they did. But Italians, they just, I feel like they live a long time. You know, you got these Nonas that are 175 years old, boiling tomatoes and, you know, the side yard in the summer. The women live a long time. The men get whacked.

Well, all right. I mean, if they talk too much. Let's get to the party. Okay. We are reunited with a few folks from the past. Hannah, who remember was kicked off the show for illicit drug use. Kicked off Sandy fucking fired her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Thanks, Malia. And, yeah, Malia. Malia, handstands are not cool. ratting on people is way not cool. She was smoking weed on the boat, dude. Who cares, man? I got to sleep. Is Hannah going to save anyone's life?

Stoned or not? I don't know. Maybe not. But you're on a boat. You can't do drugs. Malia is a rat, though. Mali is a rat. So we get a look back on Hannah.

Hannah was a lot of fun. She had it. I'm happy that she's happy. truly because we really loved watching Hannah. Anastasia, we get a look back on her. You remember Anna? I do, yeah. She replaced Mila, the Russian spy, who only lasted five episodes.

That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the homophobe. Yeah. Yeah, she was not a fan of gay people. Found them to be disgusting, actually. I think so. Yeah.

She also made some, I don't think she knew how to cook either. I think she lied her way onto the show. Yeah, for sure. She was serving she was serving shellfish, but just like just the shells. And she was just like, when I was a kid, I grew up eating this stuff. And it's like, well, these people aren't in a nuclear holocaust. They're paying for a vacation. So it's just different.

Right. I don't, while I'm grateful that we saw Anastasia and Hannah, I'm not necessarily sure that we need a too deep a dive on Anastasia's time on the show. because she was here for one season. One season. It was kind of fun, but the reason they reflect back on it was because it was Kermit's first season. This was her first crew because she had not been a cheap stew yet. She was just a loathsome stew at this point. Also worth pointing out, once Anastasia decided that she didn't want to be a cook anymore,

she wanted to do laundry again, chef Ben came back on to finish that season. Yeah. Yeah. And still trap this guy, man. Steel trap. Now, we learned Sandy and Hannah have since told each other their truths and worked everything out. In other words, they told each other how they felt. I don't know how true that was.

Sandy said, I felt as if you were doing drugs on the boat. And Hannah said, I feel that that is correct. And they moved on. They're fast friends. Now, there's a ton of yelling. Asia is very, very happy. And Nathan and the gang reunite. And he sees his pollen.

He's so happy. He goes, oh my God, my instrument, my little can opener of power. Boy is it so good to see you. And we'll see how that goes. Word to the wise. If you're trying to get ahead in life, one thing that could be very harmful towards your progression is jail time. Yeah. So, um, I mean, would you agree?

Yes. By the way, did Nate tell Max at this point the gesture of jackasses, uh, that he wanted him to be his lead deck hand to his face here? I don't know if he said it to his face, but he goes on when he gets back on the boat and says, um, I can't make Joe the boats in because I can't trust Joe. He's too petty and he's not, uh, he's not a team player, which means I, I, I'm going to promote an underqualified mime to be the head of the entire team because I am about the success of this group. I am not a petty girlfriend choker. Okay.

Now, oh, are you guys talking about the first course? Yeah. Okay. Noodles. Yes. Okay. Then Del it. Then we get a very odd placement of the C rat history here. And this is of Max. Now, I was- Well, this is a C-Rat. Sadd. scale. Well, we'll get there. I was wondering, why are we putting a sea rat history here? It's at the end of the episode. We know Max, but of course, this helps us with the story of the dad. Yes. So let's get into it. They're always welcome. They're entertaining. But they're like a movie that we've seen 14,000 times. This is the sea rat history of Max. Max's parents divorced. Mom ran off. Then dad took up with another woman. Max was left alone. That's a new wrinkle.

it's usually the dad that takes off. Right. Right. But dad stayed around, but he did take up with a different woman. Max was left alone to eat exclusively barbecue

as his own substance. Then one day he walked by a group of sea rats and they said, hey, young man, you look like a broken soul with no moral compass. You should join us on this yacht. He said, fuck it.

The rest of his history, he went on the boat. I lay, I lay. Exactly. What would you give that on a sea rat's at scale? Well, because it's a pretty common tale how they get here.

it's minus five points. There's nothing interesting about that story. That's how they all got here. I mean, they don't all walk by other sea rats who invite them on the boat, but somehow it's the same story, but they find their way up,

whether they go online and follow out an application. Right, right, right. Now, before we got to that sea rat sad scale and that sea rat history, there was a little moment of optimism wherein Max looked at Nathan and Gail and he said, I love being around families like this.

I love being around two people that love each other. It restores my hope in monogamy and building a family. Spoiler alert. That didn't work out. Okay? So we head out and we have a little chat with Max and the Booby Queen. I have to say, I really do. I think Max would be a very fun hang.

I think Max is a good guy. He's a little bit of a nutbag. And the schick is a little bit of a ton of. some on the show sometimes, but I do think that he's a good dude. And we get to the party bus. Now, Joe has done a very, very bizarre thing throughout this entire episode, or this entire evening where he's violently humping inanimate objects. He's getting his drink on.

And he's also doing another obnoxious thing, which is he's trying to goate and go, Why is he such a... I can't do his voice now. Why is he such a pussy? Why isn't going out drinking with us? I'll tell you why, because he wants his head screwed on straight tomorrow and he wants you all fucked up and hung over. Well, and also he has a child.

That too. But to Joe's point, that's never stopped him in the past. So why isn't he coming out? But yes, he has an enemy to defeat. Now, we head home. Cooper tries to get the two moms back to the boat. He goes, hey. When are you guys coming back?

Cooper, Cooper, they have hotel rooms. They're not going to be hanging out with you in your bunk bed. Okay, Jimmy Choo? We should start calling him, Jimmy Choo, I think. We get to Cooper and Kat. Uh-huh. Rekindling their affair.

Yeah, they rekindle their affair. And I believe they're making plans for after the boat, which in that case, stop. don't plan on anything it's well they both landed back to earth now that they've both been put in their regular positions down from their power positions of bosen and chief stew oh well this this is joe and cayley that's what i'm talking about oh okay so yeah he was bosen she was uh she was chief stew now joe is um we we've said this a lot to to men that are trying to go after women um your greatest drawback if you're trying to hit on a woman is one being ugly that's that's

just a not i think women well yeah maybe uh joe doesn't have that problem he has caterpillar eyebrows but you know people can get over that he's he's wearing them well the the next thing that'll really um hamstring you is being a blackout drunk i mean you've said it so many times. It's a cautionary tale to all the men out there that are trying to hit on women. Keep your booze under control. Correct? Correct. Joe does not have it under control. He also, I don't think he did it tonight, but you start walking around talking to other girls, immediately, you're done. So we rise for the next day. Asia has blacked out with noodles next to her. It is a marvel how those did not fall off that bunk. Asia is a coffin sleeper, okay? Unbelievable

stuff from her. Now, we get this Nathan heading back. Now, he gets to work on time today, believe it or not. And Aisha is really, really happy to have him back. No one should be excited to have Nathan back on this boat, except for Aisha, because she can now go back to the interior. Now, we get to a meeting, and Nathan and Joe are primed to just embarrass the fuck out of themselves on national television. they play this game of wars against one another, and there's a recollection or a recapping from Nathan who says, Joe's suggestions of improvement and conversations about a system are not full-hearted.

He is doing this to show me that he can take my power. It is so unbelievably pathetic that, that these two men are as insecure in their sea rat stations as they are. This is not two warring titans of industry going after one another. These are two fucking decades. I'd have more respect for two dudes that owned yogurt shops on the same street, fighting it out on the sidewalk. 100%. At least you've got brick and mortar.

They're undercutting your dairy prices. They're slashing the delivery trucks tires. This is war. these two are literally playing checkers with one another and trying to kill the other person. Get in the comments. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not done here. What are you talking about? There's a phone call.

Oh, my God. I literally stopped writing after this. Oh, you do? I'm so sorry. No, no, no. I thought initially Max was getting a phone call or text from Nate trying to get in his ear. But it's not Nate. And then also it's not Nate.

You know who it is? it's a dude in a call center in Bombay pretending to be Max's dad. Now, or it could be Max's dad, his deadbeat dad. He's being held hostage after defrauding the entire country of Tunisia with bad checks. And now Max in an act of redemption to show his father what it means to be family will enter Libya through a landmine-ridden field to rescue his father. you know what old Patty would do if he got that call from his dad? I don't talk to strangers, pop, click.

Right, right. Bitch. Yeah, because let's say Max, this is how it would go. If Max said, Dad, I can't help you, this is too big. The next thing that Max's dad would ask is help with his printer. and he would need to access Max's laptop so that he could help troubleshoot the steps. And that's where Max may agree. Either way, bad checks in Tunisia, Hewlett-Packard support, Apple gift cards.

I'm blown away that Sandy Aisha, no one in this boat has said, are you sure that's your dad? Well, they didn't say that, but Sandy was basically, I think, trying to keep a level of respect and not. She just said, you can't go there, Max. They'll kill you. And that they will. Get in the comments. Let us know what you thought about the episode. We will be back next week.

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