Another Below Deck Podcast - A Small Little Man with Kate Casey | The Valley S3 E8

Episode Date: May 23, 2026

Ruby, Pat, and special guest Kate Casey are back to break down cocaine, mega churches, bickering, alcoholism, broken bones, body shots, Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes and more from Bravo's The Valley.Kate Casey:What to Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecaseyTwitter: https://twitter.com/katecaseyInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseycaTik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itskatecasey?lang=enFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245BadTV: YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

And welcome to Bad TV. And our exclusive coverage, actually it's not exclusive, this is free for all the Cheapos of the Valley. I'm Pat. This is Ruby. Hi, Ruby. Hi, Pat. How are you? Doing great.

Dylan's not here. He's in Italy, attending a wedding that I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to be there. Who's wedding? Who's getting married? His wife's sister. Oh, he's got to go to the wedding. And who you're listening to right now, because this is audio only. That's Kate Casey.

Hi, Kate. My friends. Thank you for having me. Hi, Kaelin. Hello. Kalyn, did you watch The Valley? I did not. Good.

But I do know all the people on the Valley. I am more familiar with this show than others. Well, it's good to know you're getting to know them because this show is limping to cancellation. Right? This show is, it's like when you see those videos of cats that are on really high buildings and they're already off the building but they're hanging on because they have those special things in their claws and bricks are kind of porous. That's what the valley is doing now. Kate, you know Alex Baskin. Yeah. I heard he just signed a deal with Sony. Yeah. Well, big to do over there.

Yeah. I don't even think he knows that the valley exists, right? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I I think he's a soft spot for all the projects that he works on, but I do think that he is excited about new stuff. I think he would love to do that. And don't I don't you think he would want to because it's the same people. I don't know how any of them make the same show with the same cast over and over and over. Like the Real Houseways of Orange County, like, wouldn't you slam your head against the wall if you were working with all those same people all the time? Yeah.

So why not cast some new people? Why is Swartz here? I don't do it. I don't know. I think the network is like, it's too big of a risk. I think a lot, I mean, listen, it's not always the production company's fault. They have to listen to the network. The network's like, no, no, no, I got to, you got to keep that old lady because she's just

such a, she's a hoot and a holler. It's like, no one cares about Figgie Gumbelson. All right. So our rating system for this show is you can choose from a couple different things. We choose bumps. Because, you know, that's, like a, like a

bump of cocaine. That's right. Okay. That's right. How big is a bump? Like, what does that look like? Well, we, the rating system is one to a hundred bumps. No, no, I'm saying if we were at a party and somebody had a bump of cocaine and how does that work? So like people are just sitting around. Is it in front of them like a deck of cards if you're paying poker? Is it farther? I know from 80s movies that like there's like sometimes a mirror involved. Kaelan, do you know? I know like a key bump, so essentially as much as would fit on like the end of a house key, do you know the measurement? No, I don't know.

It would just be kind of whatever you can get on the top of the end of a key when you stick it into like a bag or something. Is it like a pinch of salt? Oh, okay. Because I was, I was thinking like, is this a couple tablespoons of powdered sugar? Like, what are we talking about here? I think you die if you, I don't know that much about the drug, but I think a couple tablespoons you die. I don't know. Yeah. And what I want to say about this conversation is that sometimes when you don't know

something, a lot of the audience would say, wow, they're really dumb. But in this case, the less that we know about this subject matter, I think it says a lot about us that's good in us, right? I agree with you. Okay. So bumps. How'd you feel about the episode, Kate? Can you share your thoughts on the episode in general and then how many bumps do you rate it? Okay. Let me just say this. I always say the smartest people, love watching reality TV because you're just a studying human behavior. And for that reason, I really delighted in the episode because I find Nia and Danny to be so fascinating to watch because when they first came on the show, I did think maybe these people are too normal. And then I

started to think, well, she's in pageants and he's an actor. So maybe they're crafting this whole narrative. And now I, or then it was just like a couple of episodes ago, I thought, if if the show was canceled and then you told me a couple years, Danny is going to be a preacher, I would say that tracks. And now I know going down the rabbit hole, the church in which they go to is run by a very sketchy fella and that Danny has a grandfather and a father that are preachers and he grew up in a church environment and with Nia meeting him at the church where they currently are congregants and that she has a patch of. background leads me to believe that the situation they first walked into presenting as a normal

couple is in fact not at all what we're watching or and that's what makes the show interesting to me wow and not notwithstanding her her troubled childhood living in a tent in people's backyards that's right that's right how many bombs keep i'm gonna do a lot like this for me was pretty good Never say a lot around people with funks. Oh, okay. So like a teeth, they won't give you the bag when you go to the bathroom. The key, the key.

There you go. Top of the key. Oh, I guess a finger nail, like, don't people like dip their long finger talent? Like if you see a person with like a long, like pinky finger now, like that could be a situation.

I'll give it that. 22 years ago, I was at the circle bar in Vegas, which is the hard rock. And I paid for the cocaine. I've only done it like 18. times. So I got the bag and my friend McRitchie gave it to me and he didn't pay for it. Mick Ritchie? Mick Ritchie? And so I-Ritchie. Mick Ritchie. You were with him? This is crazy. I was with my

buddy McRitchie. And a bunch of us. We were there for a bachelor party. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to do all this cocaine because I paid for it. And so I go into the bathroom and I put my nose in the bag and I just snort it all up. And then I come out and I hand it to me. He goes, hey, there's only a little left here. And I go, yeah, I paid the 80 bucks for it. It's cocaine, man. There's enough to go around. I didn't realize it was fucking trucker meth. So I was up for two days straight. But they abandoned me at the circle bar because they were so pissed.

I sat at the circle bar, I thought, for six hours, just kind of making small talk with the bartender. Turns out I was there for two days. Don't do drugs, kids. Yeah. What? Yeah. How do you feel they were there for two days? Well, because there's no, they don't show the sunlight.

They called me, they said, we're going back to L.A. This, don't do drugs. This is the first time I ever heard this story. Yeah, it was 20, 22 years ago or something. That is terrifying. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is why I always say my kids, they're not going to have an exciting life like I did.

Wow. Oh, were we going to say, Ruby? You got your bumps? Oh, sure. I'll give my bumps. That's very scary. I agree with Kate. This was watching this couple pull back the layers because the introduction of alcohol makes it impossible to sort of like to tailor what we're seeing.

Also, they have a newborn. So there's a lot of like sleep deprivation I'm imagining. I thought that this was an unbelievably anticlimactic episode in terms of like what happened. Don't care. I would watch just a show of them. I'll go like, I'll go like 80 bumps. It's pretty good. 80 bumps.

Okay, that's a lot of bumps. Yeah. All right, I have a statement before I give my bumps because there was a lot of controversy in the comments last week with the little patties, the little baddies about old Patty taking a little too soft of a position on Danny being verbally abusive to Nia in that makeup chair when Lala came over.

Some little patties took issue. Again, that I was like, I guess I labeled their conversation as bickering. Oh, no. Yeah. So I'm happy to report. I've been vindicated because four little patties agreed that my take was a pretty good one. And 40,000 thought I was tone deaf. So let's call it even.

Yeah. Wow. You thought that was bickering? I, oh, okay. So with Danny, clearly he's a drunk. And I thought he was playing a character for the cameras of them fighting. That's how I took it. I went back and watched it.

And yes, I realized he was drunk and he was also being an angry little drunk dick to her. And I get it. Do you think that he's like that when he's not drinking to? No. I do. You do? Oh, wow. You think he's controlling?

I think him on the fucking safari when he was like, I know. And when they were at the amusement park and he was like, this is just very performative. And she was like, where is the roller coaster? And he was like, I'm just following you. I've never been here before. I would look at him in that moment and say, and you will never be here again because we are getting divorced. Okay. I hate you.

Goodbye. She has like a Michelle Dugger keeps sweet voice too. Yeah. She's got to get like. Like some, I want some very tall, very wealthy man who also is strong in his faith to come along. I want him to sweep her off her feet and actually treat her properly. I would support this relationship if he genuinely just wasn't abusive. I don't give a shit if he's a drunk.

I don't care that they're weird God squad people and their church is kind of like not, I don't want to say not a real church. It's like a little cult adjacent. Fine. You can't also then be a borderline verbally abusive to your whole. beautiful, stunning wife. Mother of your kids. Mother of your kids. Four of them.

And I'm sorry that you can't fuck her all the time. Yeah. It's taken me a while. Like, it's funny because the cast. I think he does a good job because he's been like an actor for a song. He did do a job in the beginning of like making it seem like,

oh, shocks. I'm just from the Midwest. And I'm just a voiceover actor. And I just love my wife. and going to church. But eventually, if you're on a show that long, and people kind of like start to unravel. Well, he was showing glimpses of his alcoholism in season one.

And. Yeah, but you know what I think happened? I think they got all covered for him in the first season. But we're dropping breadcrumbs, dark side Danny. They were not ready to completely out him. And then season two came around. And that's when it was like. Because it is a sticky issue.

Like, somebody may drink a lot, but you're like, are anything an alcoholic? It's like a hard call. Unless somebody says, I am an alcoholic. I think that's like slippery slope. Yeah, but he turns into a different person when he drinks. Sure. No, I agree. Nia has been pregnant.

So, like, I don't think people wanted to do that to her while she was pregnant, too. So, like, I just, I think now it's like gloves are off. Also, you're on camera. And this is brutal. You know, what's weird, too? It's like, that guy, Jesse just sits there. like the whole thing with it. First of all, the pageant, another thing. Like, that was weird. Like, this is so fun. Have you guys dress up and then we'll put your makeup on and then we'll all get

yelled at while we're doing your makeup. It's like such a weird. Well, that's why I, like, is Alec Baskin even picking up the phone when they have questions about what they should do with this show? Because that is so played out. I mean, we've seen that on Vanderpump rules, right? Like, didn't they dress? I think he's probably like, we'll leave it to them of what they think is fun. I don't know. Yeah, or just recycle. I think that maybe in a weird way, he's like, I'm going to give her, allow her to have a moment of power because that's her background is pageants. That's just something that she has a lot of knowledge in. Maybe they were like, let's give Nia like a little bit to hang on to because she's totally exhausted and she's like wearing these moos and, you know, she's got the bringing the baby everywhere and she's got this husband who's looking at her every time she eats a sandwich with disdain.

Like I feel like he's berating her about how much she eats and the way she looks and I really want to throw a punch him. When he said to her, I think last week when she's like eating the sandwich and he comes down and he says like I need a swaddle or something and she's like, okay, yeah, like we just can't put her down right now. And he responds and says, your hair's kind of frizzy like you need. And she's like, I know, I'm going to fix it. If I were not newly postpartum, if I were just a normal, I have no children. I am not pregnant. and my husband said that my hair looked frizzy. Out of just instant, I think I'd punch him in the face.

And I'm not a violent person. It would just be instinct. You're getting punched in the fucking face. I do not know. And I haven't had the chance to recap this with them yet. So this is very therapeutic for me. This man is a small little man. And I know that that is a big cross for him to bear.

And I love that he has to bear it every day of his life. It's exactly what he deserves. So I've come around to Danny being Dark Side. Eddie. Okay, good. I think God. And I had no idea they met in that church. Okay, so this is what I find upsetting. You know, I've covered like all these documentaries about these weird churches. The guy that runs their church, their church is called Mosaic. And it's, you know, a lot of people that are in the arts. And it's not to me, it's, it's never, I wouldn't say never, but it's, to me, it's a situation where you have somebody in a position of

power who is praying on well-meaning people. People go to church because they want fellowship. And they go and then they are listening to the testimony, the sermons of somebody who is more about control than really spreading the message of whatever faith. This is a problem for me. The man who is at the top of this structure of this church is somebody who not only calls himself a priest or a rector or pastor, but also a fashion designer, a filmmaker, and an author. There you go.

Okay. That's problematic. Yep. And now if you go further down the rabbit hole, you can look into the church in which Danny was raised and whose dad and his grandfather were running the church. And there are people that work in the church that have said things about the system in which they operate.

And I think that's working. everyone kind of just looking at because if you grow up in a system where things are kind of swept under the rug and then you become an adult and you go to another church where things are swept under the rug and people around you behave that way maybe that you would feel like that was normal. Totally agree. I mean, I'm not saying he's doing it. I'm just saying like you're witness to people like that's it's like if you work at a company right and you start of the company when you're 23 and it's super corrupt. No one follows the rules.

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I guess it's a communication issue. Isn't that the truth? Yeah. But, oh, can I just go back to that for a second? When she talks to him, it's very keep sweet, very. very Michelle Dugger. Now, Daniel, when you just said that, oh, I know, I know that we can talk about this later, but then later when she talks to Janet, she's like house in her. And so a lot of people, I comment on that and a lot of people are like, oh, that Janet's a problem too. Of course.

However, it's just interesting to me when you don't have power in a relationship, then you take that frustration in a conversation to somebody else. I'm guilty of it. We're all guilty of it. Like, if I don't feel like I have control over something in business, for example, then I take it home and I'm going to yell at my kid and my kid's going to go, okay, like, where did that come from? And then you have to go back a little bit later or go, dude, sorry, I like, how to melt down. I have this something going on in this other part of my life. And that was an example of that to me.

Like she feels like she has no power in her marriage. So the first person she can talk to during that weekend is Janet. and she's going to house her. But it's like, go back and do a little bit of that with your husband who just humiliated you. She might also be old school, like blood thicker than water. Like, I will protect my family at all costs. And then I'll deal with Danny.

Actually, they kind of have this conversation. Like, you and I will talk about this behind closed doors. But for now, we'll keep the veneer of everything's great. So the entire episode like opens with her Lala is talking to them. Nia is standing there saying Lala has the right to express herself as Danny has continuing to yell. And it's just like everybody kind of has this moment of we've all tried to point this out. But for some, like Janet got destroyed. So we stopped.

And we were like, never mind. And it's like, wow. So everybody does kind of think of this is not okay at all. Two things to be true at once, though. Danny is a horrible person. He treats his wife like crap. and I think he needs to go get some help for his alcoholism. But also, Janet is still a horrible person.

Agreed. Right. She looks so miserable on that shit. I'm like, I don't know why you came back. Like, every, she looks like she's so wound up. Like, she's darting her eyes back and forth. She clearly doesn't like anybody. I don't know why she's on the show.

Well, she's married to Jason. Like, they don't really offer that much. Well, okay. Let me, I'm going to, we'll get to that. basketball court. Please do. I do really want to talk about that. Okay.

If I, I don't care if I broke my leg on the basketball court. I would crawl to my car and drive myself to a hospital. I know that does not make me, I'm just saying me personally. Yeah. To be, call an ambulance and then be put on a hammock and lifted up like you've been spent seven days on the top of Mount Everest, right, with your arms crossed like that. I would, okay, he should ask that film be deleted so that his children don't have to view it because they'll lose respect for their father.

I want that film deleted for their sake, so they don't have to know that their dad is a massive pussy. I, as someone who has ripped my ACL, MCL, LCL, Moniscus, everything twice. Oh, no. In no reality was an ambulance being, and I was also a child, okay, in no reality was an ambulance being called unless your leg is ripped off. Okay. And even in that case, it's probably faster to drive, call an Uber. What are we doing? I want to know the timestamp. How long was he laying there face down waiting for the ambulance? 84 minutes. It's LA. Wow. Maybe this was a production thing where they were like, the network is going to want us to make sure that we did all the protocols and over the top. Yeah, but him. I hope that that's what it was. Him crossing his arms seems like he was a little too like ready to be taken care of. And it wasn't it like just as he walked onto the court?

They played for like 11 minutes. It was like his third shot and it's just not good. Here's what I'm going to say about our this time in our culture. I agree that the past and masculinity, I do believe it needed to be curved a little bit. We needed to cut down on the violence and how men talk to women and these things. But we didn't need to go this far. Can we find a middle point, right? Right.

Yeah. Other than that, I have no thoughts on this. I agree. I don't have anything to say. They don't need to be doing this, and this was embarrassing for Jason. And his children. Yeah. Okay.

All right. So we have the contest. I don't really have a lot of notes. I think Lala Land won or Moonlight. I thought it was a lot. I just, you know, like,

I just can't imagine, I just can't imagine that would be fun to like take shots off of someone's, like, stomach at my age. I don't know. Like, maybe I'm just too tired. This is bachelor at parties that make you do like a toilet paper dress thing.

It's like there's a point where why aren't we all looking around and saying with the exception of Jesse, none of us want to have glam done. None of us want to put on like why don't we all just get super fucked up and then go to bed and wake up and do that for a couple of days? Because that's really what we want to do, right? Why do we have to have a pageant now? But at the same time, I was also surprised that Danny presents as like a very misogynistic person. that he would be agreeable to wearing a sequin dress with heels.

And so that kind of threw me for a loop too. Yeah. And he was like, you know, me, I'm competitive. I've got to win. I'm like, this is the killer you're going to die on? Kate, this is the conservative senator that is also at the airport bathroom using his playing footsie with another dude there. Roger that.

Got it, got it, got it, got it. Yeah. That was also, I will say, Luke is, I think, the most beautiful, beautiful person I've ever seen on the show when he was in in drag. I was like, he is an unbelievably stunning woman. I am very, whoa, I was very shocked. I'm actually terrified by him. I think he's too, and this is coming from someone who is very pale myself. It's almost translucent. Yeah. Like if you said to me, we, we have an upcoming UFO documentary and we found out that Luke's involved. I would go, that sounds right. Yeah. He is translucent. He's like one of those fucking tetra fishes. You see at the

aquarium store. You can see as fucking. fucking lungs. I do also believe, I'm about 85% of the way there. I do think that maybe he is Lala's baby's birth father. I have a low, I'm like at a C plus B minus there as well. It's strong and also, wow, the universe would be an unbelievably beautiful place if that's the truth. Agreed.

After the contest, Danny gets really drunk and it's going to shock everybody. He starts being an idiot, embarrassing Nia. He spreads his legs. And he also, I think he destroys what's left to that voiceover career before AI takes over what's left of it. Can you imagine him going off? I mean, there is no voiceover work, right? They're going to watch this. Does he get any more voiceover work for kids?

He's saying that he couldn't go to watch what happens live because he had a really exciting project that he just couldn't miss out on. He was in a movie that actually had a budget that was a spoof on fast. in the Fast and Furious in 2015. I watched the trailer. It's pretty ridiculous. I forget what it's called. But then Danny and I go outside to chat. She asked him what's up.

He explains he's a competitive motherfucker. And then Lala triggered him. And Jesse just sat there. He couldn't even be bothered. No. Here's what I'm to say. As someone who's cooled it with the booze, I've also kind of learned,

even being on vacation, and don't get this drunk. Yeah, I agree. This is like, was they went off their skis. You cannot get this drunk unless your spouse is also getting this drunk. And you're doing like a fun, like if we're both going to get super fucked up tonight and have a great time

and then try to have sex later, great, let's do this. Don't you fucking dare get this way when you're, when people are around you are not even close. Right. When he was on the couch and she was trying to cover his balls and all of those other girls, excuse me, grown women are looking at him like,

what the fuck is going on? Yeah, that was really sad. That was really sad to me. It's so, Nia, it felt like Nia, like, if it had been a child, they would have just gotten up and like helped her because he was just covered in pee and they're all moms. They can figure it out, but it's her grown husband. And they all were like, oh my God, I don't know what to do here. Now people online speculate that there's an alliance between Nia, Danny, Luke, and Kristen because Kristen is still so supportive of Danny. And then people speculate it's because Nia and Danny are trying to pull them into the megachurch. Okay. Well, so when they go outside and they do the mic thing and Nia, he's like, are you miced?

And she's like, yes. And he says, there's a fucking camera following us. Take the mic. And she's like, I hear you. that was, that's the type of behavior that Kristen Dowdy usually would lose her fucking mind over and be like, you are not going to speak to her like that. And it's weird. It's very weird that she says that her and Luke like that they keep everything behind closed doors and they, you know, like it's a turn from suck a dick, Diana.

That's for sure. How about maybe it could be maybe she's like, Nia is such a good mom. And then she's right. It's really more about that. I think it's less about the mega church and more let's consolidate power because we team up and you know. Easily could be. Yeah.

I mean, they hate, they all hate Janet. So that's like their mission. They're like, get this brought off the show. That's right. And they realize how weak Zach can be. And it's very easy to kind of like if you get a group of four or five people together that all like a team, they can start like levying power against you. And it make it very uncomfortable for you on the show.

So, okay, Lila shares with the gals, let's see, that she doesn't like how she was talked this way. And then Nia wastes her time trying to talk to a drunken idiot. And then meanwhile, Lala, let's see, she thinks their marriage isn't going to work out. And then Janet makes her ascension out of the ashes back into the fold by basically just, I guess, shitting all over. See, I told you. I told you he's a drunk. I told you. And just like that, she's back.

I mean, it kind of is right, though. Like, she was right. And now they're all seeing it. Yeah. I know, I'm happy about her being on the show. I think it adds something to it. I also, I think part of this alliance talk is because Lala being here is a new alpha in this group. And I also think that she's like, she is pretty successful.

like she has her houses like she's not a fraud person in that regard and I think that she is as we know she's not scared to speak her mind so I think there's another part of Kristen that might be seeing like I don't want to get caught on an island here so let's just like make a commitment to stay together so that means that the two alliances are that Nia and Danny and Luke and Kristen and then the other you've got Michelle and Lala and Janet and and jazz and and jazz Has my wife. Brittany and Zach seem to kind of float in between. Jesse seems like float or two. Think about what Lala has done in two or three episodes. She has gotten the focus on Danny. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

That's pretty powerful stuff. Well done. Well done. Mm-hmm. Danny annoyed by Nia gets up and walks in the house and does, who've a lot of his steps here, only done by a true fucking drunken lush. And to quote the program, which he'll soon be working, I hope he wants to keep his fucking

kids. One drink is too many and a thousand's not enough. He grabs a beer out of the fridge like he needs one. Oh, that's sad. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then he attempts to wind down and she says, take those goddamn lashes off. I need them. Okay.

Pat, I don't know if you notice this. When he takes that beer out of the fridge, he immediately looks around to see where the camera is. And he had this look. Oh, Kate, you have to go back and rewatch it. He hides it in front of his dress and looks around because he thinks he gets away with it. And then he sees that the camera. And there's a moment where the cameraman's like, no, no, n-uh. I got you.

You fucking lying drunk. It's incredible. Yeah. Being sneaky with alcohol, that's one of your first tells that you have a problem with alcohol. when you're stuffing bottles in the trash so that people don't see what you drank, you should probably look in the mirror. Well, then you think about, like, she's got these four little kids at home under four. She's on a reality show, and she's trying to navigate this.

This is a lot. But then a lot of people on the other side of it are going, well, you sign up for this. This is what you wanted. You wanted a marriage like this? I don't know where this one's going to go because what? Jesus Christ. Well, you know, credit to Lala too, because I'm watch what happens live. Andy's like, I don't know.

Like, what do you think? And she's like, I think she should leave him. Yep. And she's right. Yeah, he's not a fucking movie producer, unfortunately. Damn. Where are we? Isn't it wild?

We're all like, what you said just now in like two, three episodes. By the way, what do you think about Zach? Was it Zach that said Nia didn't even like, or, uh, Britney. didn't like me from the beginning. Yeah, that was at the, when they go to lunch later. And that, that was very telling too. I think that Brittany probably does talk a lot of shit about me and how annoying it is that she's like perfect on camera and, you know, but well, I think they, oh, so the next

morning when they wake up, the apologize. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he fake apologizes. And Lala's just like, dude, I don't give a shit about this really, but like, you have a problem with drinking and like, you should probably look at that. And Danny in true drunk fashion is like, I don't know her like that. And that did not need to be said. Oh my God.

You just scared me the way you said it because it sounded right exactly like him. And it did need to be said, Danny, because you're, I think you might be an alcoholic. Okay. Do you think that Brittany and Jax were always on the same page about Nia and Danny? Or do you think Jax was saying to Brittany like, this is bullshit. Like they're putting in a name, like they're getting a good at it. I think that that's what it was. and I think Brittany was like,

Jacks, I don't really, that's not up for us to worry about. You're throwing me into rose bushes, okay? It's not our problem. Like, I think she was probably just like, I agree with you, but you're also beating me and throwing chairs. Meanwhile,

Michelle tells the girls she wasn't scared of Danny because even if he was wearing heels, she could still rest a coarse light on his little head. I think she said that. How tall is he? I mean, maybe he's not that tall. Well, he wears those heel boots.

Or not that short. Oh, does he? he's like a Tom Cruise. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. She married Tom Cruise. Well,

she. Wait, who is she? Who else is like the movie of this two? What's that? Oh, is she Katie Holmes? Maybe it is Katie Holmes.

There's our second meme, Roobes. There you know, honestly. Yeah. And Katie Holmes. Amanda and McKenzie Shirilla. And we've got Katie Holmes and Katie Holmes and

Nia. And Danny. Wow. Danny meets with Lala and apologizes. And she brings up his issues with booze and he plays it up plays it off and uh he tells us he wants her to fuck off um meanwhile janet wants to chat and apologize with nia again and uh this was the conversation

you guys had uh pointed out this is where i'm like janet shouldn't be on on this show she hates everybody she hates every scene it's like awful well this is what the third time she's tried to apologize to nia and nia doesn't buy it i mean come on you this is a janet is pretty disingenuous. And they iced her. They iced Janet officially out of four episodes. That's right. Because they wouldn't hang out with her. I said that's the power of like Shannon Bador did this to fucking Jesus Jugs. That's right. Like you're not going on a trip. Well, congratulations. You've just been iced out of four episodes of the show. So you're not on it. Yeah. And you know what? Maybe eternally, this goes back to our summer house discussion and when people talk about offline. Maybe they're like, um, these four,

they're getting too much power and then the other side has like a like a powwow offline like okay what do we need to do get these fuckers that what they deserve yeah well also i heard that kyle did that with hannah hannah burner many many many many years ago that he was like you know we we need her off the ship this is not going to work really and that's why derit's terrified of uh the reality of kyle because she thinks kyle's like get her off the ship too right but then kyle said Andy, will you shut to read up? He's like, no, which kind of showed at the reunion. Exactly. The boys meet up to play basketball, and that's when the ambulance is called, and he's taken away.

And so is his manhood. Then the ladies grab lunch, and we learn Cruz is thriving now. And let's see, they discuss Jacks being a scumbag. And then Danny comes up, and Lala tells Kristen there's a real issue. And Kristen takes a stance that they have faith. and the group isn't buying it. Did I miss anything? No, that was basically, that was basically it. One of the things I love, Kate, is that for some reason,

they shoot at every single restaurant that is on Ventura Boulevard that my wife and I eat at. I think Donna Bolings is the same thing. Really? Yeah, she's like, I don't know what's going on. Of all those places, which one's your favorite? They eat at Casillas a lot, and they haven't hit Loweens. Laurel Tavern, but they actually hang out there and drink just casually, the cast members a lot.

I don't know if I can say this, but my daughter played baseball against Cruz last weekend. Oh, okay. Was she there? No, the other guy was. Oh. Well, that's good that they've got him in activities. That's always great. He does seem to be doing great.

I will say that's the one thing I give Britney a lot of shit for basically everything that she's ever done with her life. I do think that she tries to now the hand that she has been dealt, I think she's trying to make the best of it with her kid, which I will give her credit for because that's probably very hard. She does seem like the kind of mom who's like always joyful around her son. Yeah. That's probably very, very helpful. Yeah.

Okay, I think that's it. Kate, where can we listen to your show? Reality Life with Kate Casey, everywhere you listen to podcasts on Mondays to tell you what to watch, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday interviews, Saturday series episodes are always with people who've got really interesting personal stories this weekend is my friend Melissa, who has this insane story about a man that approached her 14-year-old son of the doc, and he was trying to communicate with him on a cell phone and told him like he was going to try to end his own life. She gets access to his phone, looks in this sub-folder with unknown numbers, sees that he's been texting her son, and then she starts communicating

back with him to get info and then took that information the next day got a picture of him and his car uploaded it to next door got information on the man from Meg's law, Megan's Law then gave a bunch of us

jobs we each had to go and contact somebody like I got the mayor and another friend got superintendent and tell them about this specific man. This happened in November and on Monday of this week she went before the judge. We Venn out there were other victims and that man got 25 years.

Let's go. Fucking, yeah. Like, mom warrior story on crack. Like, let's go. That's why you listen to Kay, Kay. And then go in Kate's reviews and tell Kate to have old Patty on that show more. I just like that podcast on fire when I talk about documentaries with Kate. You sure do.

Yeah. All right. This has been fun. Yeah. It's been fun. All right. I'm Pat. That's Ruby.

That's Kate. That's Kaylin. Everybody say goodbye. Bye. Have a great weekend, everybody.