Another Below Deck Podcast - Back Tax Luau | RHOC S20 E12

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Dylan, Ruby and Pat are back to break down luaus, back taxes, love, motherhood, car accidents and more from Bravo's RHOC.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Don't worry about money. And Shannon Boudor tells her, hey, and I quote, you can never put a price on a memory. She says that. Welcome to Badd. Yes. Hi, everybody. Are we recording? Yes. Is it red? Well, we're recording bad TV and it's a podcast breaking down to the highways and byways of reality television. Today we are here to talk about Bravo's Real Housewives of Orange County. Is there any way to turn off jury? What is this? Court TV, I believe.

Court TV. You know what, we can leave it on. Okay. It is very distracted though. What is court TV? Ruby's here. Say hi, Ribs. Hi, Jill.

Hi, Pat. What trial? What is court TV? This is the woman that definitely killed her husband, but they're taking a relook at it. Terry and. Anderson, neighbor of Karen Harkness, ringing any bells? Yeah, I'm going to turn it off. This is distracting Dylan, clearly.

Hold on. Yeah, this is one week after testifying, and I'm just kind of dying to know what Karen's thinking about what happened at the casino. We're here to break down the Real Housewives of Orange County, and Ruby's here box checked, said that, said hi. And how are you doing? Me or her? me how we are at the halfway mark of this season just blows my mind we have to be further than

halfway no we're at the halfway mark how do i know that because we had a halfway through the season look back at all the incredible storylines that we've seen so far you know when there's like a miserable this this show is essentially Mitch mccanell at this point like how are you still going They're, yeah, they're rolling this show up in a wheelchair and reporters are asking, are people holding a gun to your head? Roves, go ahead. I was going to say when people go hunting and they don't hit the deer properly and the deer runs away and it's dying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what this show is. It's a bleeding, dying deer also Mitch McConnell. It shows up at the courthouse behind Mitch. Yeah. Give us a thumbs up, bitch. That was honestly one of the most disrespectful things anyone's ever said to him. And what I will say too is kill us. Right.

We made this was, I'll tell you what. The three of us made some fatal errors this season. One was covering the double lives of suburban wives. I think that was probably a miscalculation. I got a ton of people behind the payroll. But we did. Or we didn't. No, we didn't.

Oh, okay. Yeah. The other one was we should have covered girls trip. People said, people said when we said double lives, it's going behind the paywall, they said, no, thanks. A lot to have fun. And then we said, I'll tell you what, it's been a very, very fun show. Oh, but you know what?

Sometimes you got to expand your horizons. But that was a giant fail. But then we watched this and people said, I hate that show. Don't do it. Right. You should do girls trip. And we said, we know. better. Apparently we didn't because girls' trip I watch and I laugh my ass off. You have

Luan losing her goddamn mind and we have Porsche being hilarious. They go to a city every other week. I'd say if Lou Ann's on something, we should probably watch it, given your smoky dulcets. But anyway, this is the halfway mark. We got to see a look back at all the things that there's nothing that has happened. I'm pretty sure nothing will happen in the future. It's pretty sad. And then we got to go to Tamara's house for a birthday and see, you just can't take the white trash out of white trash. They ordered Domino's pizza for that 11-year-old's birthday party. Yes, Ruby.

I was just saying, like, careful on, don't bring Domino's into this. No, no, no, we have to because Domino's is ordered. let's say this. If you have means, which Tamara and Eddie do, Domino's is only ordered during bouts of self-hatred or extreme alcohol poisoning.

That's right. You're drunk. You don't do it when cameras are in your house. No. That's trashy. That's right. I'm judging them. Who orders Dominoes on Bravo? Tamara and Brittany. No, we love Dominoes, okay? and I mean a thin crust pepperoni black olive with a little a little ranch on the side, maybe some marinera sauce on the side

because they don't put sauce on the pizza. But Ruby has a lot of love for dominoes and we should tread carefully. You want to have a good time. Go to your Yelp and just look up your local dominoes. And there will be an average. One star was shot there. Bad pizza. also.

It's the average will be, well, of course, you're going to just be staring at yellow stars, which indicates that it's two. Right. And then just take a deep dive into the Yelp reviews. It's a good time. All right. We got to cover this show. Oh, yeah, sir.

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Ruby thoughts. on this episode, the episodes that we have not, you've not been on the pod for, give us your boobs for how you're feeling currently about this television show. As you mentioned, you already kind of cried out for someone to put you out of your misery. So that was tipping your cap a little bit, your hand a little bit, but go ahead and give us your boobs. Well, I'll rip my cap off. How's that? The woman's breasts in Barbarian, the Jokey horror movie, those are the breasts I give it. Yeah. And I give it six because I got two.

Yeah. Yep. When Pat just said halfway, it really made me upset. Yeah, yeah. I truly don't think I've been maybe, although no, because Ebony K. Williams, New York season, we had black. bot. We've had nothing about this that makes me like, oh, at least, nope, it's too sad. It's too bad. And it's not my favorite six of those breasts. Yeah. You know, do you remember when we were

watching the brutalist as a family over the holidays? That's about the architect. Yeah. Do you remember how you felt about an hour and 20 minutes into it? I do. Yeah, similar? Yep. I'm going to give this episode actually 90 boobs. I thought that this for this show, which is dog do-d-do. It was actually a pretty good episode. Carmella versus Granny is kind of electric.

And the museum tour of horrors that Tamara took her granddaughter on was really great. It was also amazing to walk down. memory lane and see ryan's uh full side piece that he got when i don't know he was 19 you guys know better than me a lot of fun and um shout out domino's pizza two and a half stars wow um just for the little jaunt down memory lane with ryan um that white trash piece of shit um by the way uh the police have been called about 80 times up with that house um Right, but more importantly than that, and I know these are your boobs and we'll probably get to it, more importantly than the crimes he's committed. What did he say on social media again?

What did he like on Instagram or something like that? I think he's like wildly, wildly anti-trans. Okay. Specifically, I believe. And I think she was getting a little shrapnel for that. Oh, yeah. Sure. You know, she's on the Bravo network.

He's a turd, a trans exclusionary radical dude. Yes, he is a big, big turd. He's a turd. Yeah. So for that reason and many others, zero tits. That's not a lot. No, that's zero. Can I start us off?

Please do. Okay. Well, we're going to bounce around the OC, and I have lots of thoughts on this. We begin at Heather DeBurro's place. Now, all that nonsense about her in calling the, new cast member Trashy, and she had to fend off the attacks from those gross losers, Meatball and Emily.

Wait, wait, wait. Heather DeBro. Okay, got it. Sorry. She's past that now. She's gotten through all that drama. Now she's back. She can lean into her favorite storyline.

Her real estate portfolio. Her calm waters are a projected blueprint. of the eyes wide shut living room that she wants to die in. That's her happy place. That's right. She says she's in a designing frenzy, and this is where her mind goes a little crazy. Her words, not mine.

And she's going to have a tunnel. She's obsessed with this tunnel. And it's not just going to be any tunnel. It's going to be a champagne tunnel. But what's unique about this tunnel is fuck it. she's going to have her two leftover embryos frozen in the walls. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.

No, she is a skin walker and part of the problem. But I don't think that that's accurate reporting from the CEO of PMZ. Ruby, did she mention two embryos that she had left and wanted to incorporate them somehow? Patrick is correct. And also in her old home, Dylan, she, I believe what you're referencing, Pat, is in the glass of her old home on the way to her champagne room downstairs. She had a bird, I believe, in a nest, and that was her and Terry. And then she had four little birds or something on the branch.

And that was her kids. And then two eggs in a nest. Right. That were the embryos. They were symbolic of the embryos. I don't think you can etch one. No. Take it out.

You can't put an embryo in a champagne tunnel. What, you can't do that? Yes, you can. Did you see what, did you see what Terry did to his face? He looks like he's in a fucking horror movie. Okay. These people are fucked up. Okay.

All right. That's a great point. They're going to put a pool table on top of a poker table because they're filthy. Fuck. Now, I want to talk like last week we discussed Heather DeBrow's mom's idea of a nice place. kitchy, gaudy wealth, which still not our cup of tea, but it has at least a little bit more juge than the American psycho version of what Heather wants to live in. Ruby, as somebody who's fantasized almost daily about having millions of dollars to interior

decorate with, what are your thoughts on Heather DeBro's interior aesthetic? I'm not kidding you. This is the definition of money cannot buy you class. It also cannot buy you taste or individuality. It just makes me think of my dear Rachel Zos house whom I've stolen from her. That get a little bit of warmth in your life, in your heart and also in your home. Pick up a fucking, what is it called? Architect Digest. What architectural digest? Here's, here's problem. What the fucking? fuck is wrong with you people. Here's Heather's problem. Hire a designer. Right. Yes. Okay. Let's move on. We get to Jen's house. Here's the thing though. And I don't want to, I know we got a lot of show. What would Heather do? What would Heather do? If somebody was designing that house. She'd macro-manage. She'd macro-man. But I don't even know if that's a word. The thing is, is she would make it look like this no matter what. if she got somebody to exclusively design her like a stable, it somehow would look this way because she would be like, oh, I don't think the horses actually really like that on the ground.

So we should probably make it marble. And then it would have to be marble or else that person would be blacklisted from all of the rich people in the state of California. And that's that. You know what they say when they're rich. The customer's always right. Yeah. Here, write that down.

We're going to charge her an extra $100,000 for that dumb idea. Okay. We move over to Jen's house. She calls her oldest son who's in Singapore working on robots that will eventually kill Ryan because he tried to steal money from it. Yeah, and she's blown away that this came from her because she cannot spell robot. Emily's house. Was that okay? Yes.

Yeah. I think she admitted that. Her word's not mine. Exactly. From the great state of Louisiana. All right, Emily's house. She and Annabelle's relationship is better after years of ignoring. her daughter because Luke didn't eat French fries. Now, who gives a fuck? Here's Emily's story.

God forbid Bravo gives her a painful next season. Her daughter will develop a problematic eating disorder. Oh, no. All right. The polymarkets are betting on this because, because Emily has gotten really thin and goes to the gym too much. So Emily will use this as a storyline. I don't what to do with Annabel. She's seen me lose all this way. And I go to the gym a lot. And now she's, I don't know what to do. Me and Shane are talking and we're ready to get the more. She won't eat French fries either. No, she doesn't want to eat because she's developing 80% of the poly market are saying if she fucking gets another season. God fucking forbid. Yeah. Well, so use her daughter for a storyline. By the way, Annabelle will be fine. And she'll go, what the fuck is she talking about? She's using me for

a goddamn storyline. This bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but, but I think it'll cut the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the boat at the end of it will, Emily will walk her daughter in front of Terry Debrough. And he'll get a, you know, he'll get a roused like he got for her mother. And then she'll be like, you can't that, that's priceless. That is, that's why we do it. Or he'll smack his hands together and go, ooh, I can pay to fuck up my face more. All right, Ruby. And then she's actually.

Have you seen his face? The host of the Swan Four. Right. Right. Okay. I'm waiting for the doc on that one. All right. So let's get to Camila and her children in her rental.

Oh, my God. Say her name properly. Carmela. Caballo. And she's talking to the kids about Granny. And I know that her children are kind of of the age that. Not only are they interested in this because it's T and she's on television, but I don't know. It's a little Amy Polar and mean girls.

No, no. So what you wanted to say was- Why are you talking to your kids about this? Yeah, so they're in high school. Well, not really because they don't go to school. But they're of the age of children who are taken away for not going to school. You shouldn't be discussing this or really any. anything of substance with them ever, right?

We're doing a luau with... Well, I still have thoughts of this. Okay. This is questionable parenting. Yeah. As I saw, we're all sympathico on this. Yeah. Basically, they're all agreeing that Vicki's disgusting and old.

Yeah. And yeah, you shouldn't, uh, you're making them your friends. Yeah. They're not your friends. Uh, my daughter, I had to stop her. I was making fun of my, uh, my wife's father, grandpa Ruby. about how every time he comes over, he talks while he eats and he spits on all our faces and indoor food.

My daughter picked up on it. Yeah. And she started mimicking me doing an imitation of him, which I. What's the, what's the, um, re. We got more mashed tables over there. And anyway, uh, my daughter picked up on that imitation. And she will now, I will feel the payback on this when she imitates him next time he comes over.

Sure. And he'll be like, where did you pick up that? They are molds. They are mimics. Yeah. So, you know, mimic and mold correctly. Don't turn them into your buddies. Well, they are, though.

I mean, Lucy's my bud. She's my best friend. I love fucking. I just, they're the best. Rib's going to have like three of them. I know it. I know it. All right.

So we're going to do a luau for Shannon. And I believe, Ruby, correct me if I'm wrong, Has Gina requested this party for her? Oh, this is very confusing. No, no. So Shannon said, I'll throw you a party for your engagement, Gina. And Gina was like, that's okay, Shannon. You're really poor and in a lot of debt.

And Shannon was like, great, doing it. Well, doing it. It's a luau now. I think that's what it is. Yeah. We, yeah, I believe this is, why am I writing down financial tug of war? Because Gina will later mock her for the party being too expensive when she has back taxes. Oh, oh, that's a sick line. Um, oh, no. What? Oh, do we have another line in from the

afterlife? No, no, no, no, no. Um, we, we have, um, we have, uh, Shannon Bador. She remarks to, um, she counters with Gina, uh, when Gina tries saying like, hey, um, you know, don't, don't, don't worry about money and, uh, Shannon Bador tells her, hey, uh, and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, uh, and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, And I quote, you can never put a price on a memory. She says that. Oh, sorry, that's a bad sound effect. That was her smashing into that house, you know. She paid $86,000 to the owners of that house.

I have no problem. And she had to install a breathalyzer in her car. Yeah, yeah. You can't put a price on a memory. Can I tell you, I really have almost no problem with what you did there. But you and I both know that that sound effect was from the accident of Van Haysian, not Shannon Bador. Because Shannon Bador kind of just like bumped into a condominium. That sounded like a missile flew into a garage of some sort.

She broke a brick retaining wall, Dylan. What's that, Archie? He begs to differ. It was way more, it was way more tragic than that. Okay. Yeah. Anyway. So yeah.

You have to. You can put it. You can put a price on a memory. Agreed. I saw the video. I mean, she wasn't going that fast, was she?

I mean, she was not going, like rolling down the road looking for an address. She was blacked out driving. Yeah. Okay. So we talk on Carmela and,

and Granny's, um, temper tantrums. And Gina says, Shannon, you have to talk to Vicki Gundelson about the way that she's been behaving. And Shannon goes, I mean, listen, you're right. The other day, she said, Danny is raising those children. And Gina goes, what? Ooh, let me write that down.

Can I quote you? Gina goes, it's not often I'm gifted a storyline, but here we go. But Shannon says, I know she's horrible, but she's not going to hear it from me. I am not going to step in and talk to her. Also, I don't like to kick a person when I'm down because no one's been on the floor more than me. Wait. I don't know. So what is hilarious about what you just said, Pat, is that Shannon said, I don't like to kick a person when I'm down.

Yeah. And that's actually what she should have said because she is down constantly. and she shouldn't be kicking from her back. It's like a child during a temper tantra. Yeah, because like if you're down, you don't have any leverage. So you can't tell someone to do better when you're down. The message won't land.

So let's get to Tamras. The whole family is here today. And there is a new Sophia of foot post-Niko. I mean, she's just a completely different person. So says, Eddie, who is all of a sudden just filming all the time? It's very, very confusing. I bet he negotiates with Bravo.

They're going to pay him to be here for this. What say you were a good? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's all conjecture, but he wasn't filming and now he's filming. I believe that something happened when they were coming back from Big Bear and they had their whatever fight that she informed us about. I think he said, I need to start getting my shit together. I need to start banking as much fucking money as I can.

And I'm going to film for the rest of this season. And then I think Pat is right. They will be getting divorced soon. I think it was much simpler than that. I think that she pulled the emergency exit, maybe did a little highway blow job. And then that fixed everything. Oh, interesting. Um, them getting divorced. That would be odd though now because they're getting up there.

Have you said that they're having you said that they have said that they have said that. I have said that. And then a lot of people said, Pat, you were right. You called it all along. But now I'm like, oof. I mean, Tamara, she's very calculated. Like, look at her this season. She's like, she's letting all the ladies go, see how boring this season is when old Tamrat just sits back and watches everybody? It's better than when you're involved. much better. Can I ask both of you if Andy said to Tamara, and I think I know the answer. Divorce this guy. I'll give you two more seasons. We have you on the block right now. You're on the bubble. So we're either going to cut you or we need you to go through a divorce. What would she do? She would release nude photos of her children before getting cut. I think that answers that. And you feel the same? I got to chew on that one. Okay. So Nico, the new boyfriend, is there. He's very skinny and he's very punk. And him and Sophia are doing great. And Ryan... Doing great. They're engaged. They're engaged. And they're

having sex. Yeah, they're engaged. And they're having sex. It's actually fantastic. But Ryan is on his way over. Now he... They're not engaged, you guys. That was a joke. Oh, okay. Thank you for being here. You're welcome. No, I mean it. Okay. Continue. Because if you weren't here, I mean, we would have just kind of lolly gag for the tulips. They were engaged. Because the tulips literally said to her, oh, you're engaged. And she said, no, we're not engaged. And then the sex thing came up because her mom said, they're fucking each other.

And to the tulips, she said, that part's true. But the engagement was a joke. So that's how we knew it was a joke because she said to the, she said it. Yeah. Why did you say that, Pat? I don't know. But listen, the turd is coming. He's on his way to the house.

And there's some tension between him and Tamara because, as we all know, Tamara is very active in the LGBTQ community. As we know, her son is extremely bigoted. And that presents problems. But the bigger problem is that Tamara was not there for his daughter the way that their grandmother, his grandmother was there for him and Tamara.

And what Ryan doesn't realize is that Tamara is a demon. So she has to film, you idiot. She's not going to show up for your daughter. I mean, we've got a kneecap rejuvenation place that we got to get to with the ladies. We can't take care of the kids. No, no, no, no. That's just what it is. Yeah, but there's more important things to do here, Dale,

which is we need to take a little. walk down bad decision lane. Yes. Lots of horrible tattoos, lots of talking to children you gave birth to, but fuck it, you're on TV now, so it was worth all of it.

Can we get to taking Avery? I just want to ask Ruby what she thought of Ryan's tattoo that runs the length of his... Hot, so fucking hot. Yeah. Yeah. I remember him, you know,

they showed all that old footage of Ryan, looking a little bit younger, but I knew he was a disaster even then back in 2000. I think that was probably 2009 or 2010 that episode where they all were having fun and Tamrat was brought to tears when he pulled down his lip and his lips said, uh, stupid or moron, what did it say? Cunt. I'm kidding. I don't remember.

Fucka. Fucker. It said something stupid. Yeah. And she was like, oh my God. I can't believe I'm raising this. Yeah. Oh, no.

It was going to get way. worse after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what have the policemen called for? Domestic stuff, I think. Oh, yeah. Domestic stuff. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Tamara should have been there to help. Right. She was busy. Yeah. Well, okay. Can I just say something to?

Yeah. It is crazy that Ava is. I remember, Pat, I don't know if you remember, I remember when we sat at that dinner table with Adam, excuse me, with Ryan and Sarah, and he was like, we're getting engaged and, or we're getting married, and we're moving to Northern California. Ryan and Sarah. Yeah, yeah.

And I met her on Instagram. Oh, yeah. And he was like, you can't. And then that was 11 years ago. That is kind of crazy. It is. And that was a really bad decision. Yeah.

And they had a rough go first couple years because that's where you got arrested. with this same girl that you saw. She still looks great, by the way. Well, yeah, she's sure. And I thought on the socials, they were like, she's just here with him because she wants to be on real housewives. And turns out not so much.

Well, I don't think that she was given the chance. Well, you'd think that they would have been driving back down to OC a lot more. or twisting his arm or have left him had that not been out. Yeah, but it's a very tumultuous relationship, i.e., the cops have been called many times, so we're not really sure what's motivating the connection. All right. Well, look, all right.

Let's, can we take the tour with Ava? Yeah, on the way, on the way to the ultimate resting place of the Gucci bag or whatever the fuck it is. All right. Let me take this because it's way more nuance than that day. All right. Tamara says, hey, young one, youngling. Let's take a little tour.

Come on. Come on with Grammy. I'm going to show you a picture here of the family. And she points out the daughter that resents her so much as a mother that she has no contact with the rest of the family. And then Tamrat says, come over here. I want to gift you something. I want to give you this vintage handbag that's so out of fashion that it's probably only worth about $250 at this point. But I want you to have it because you're 11.

It probably means nothing to you. Ruby, what do you think that Gucci handbag is worth at this point that's, I don't know, 18 years old? Like, I don't know anything about anything. I think that you're probably right. It's a nice bag. Maybe think when I'm a grandpa, I'll grab my grandson. If I'm still around, you know, if Quentin or Ellie ever had a kid, no. Show him a picture old Peter.

And I'll say, you see that man right there? it's probably a little dark, but I know you probably are mature enough to handle this. This man right here used to dress up as a woman and have sex with his managers. Keep his job. Yeah. That's your dad. That's my dad. Anyway, let's go head over to my closet, and I'm going to give you some old shoes.

Yeah. All right. I'm getting a little emotional. Let's move on. I mean, you know, I don't know what our father is going to give, be at Ruby's kids. I mean, if Lucy was a boy, he would probably give him a gun before the age of four. I would imagine. He will still try.

Okay. Dad, she is two years old. You gave her a pistol? Look, she can fucking hold it by herself. Look. Lucy, look, hold it up. Show dad. All right.

So let's move on to brassiere shopping. evidently Shannon Bador chops the foam out of her tits so that her breasts can sit even. Go ahead, Ruby. I give this episode one more set of barbarian breasts. I forgot that we learned. Learning that Shannon does this, honestly, was like... No, Pat, Pat, and I want to just call attention to. Pat just did a runway.

You know the guys on the runway that do the direct traffic? Yes. Just did kind of one of those out of absolutely nowhere. I think he's trying to get the blood into his fingers. No, I said at the top of the show, I'd single us, signal us that we'd wrap it up at some point. I told both you knuckleheads. Are you both high? Yeah, but I didn't think that that's what you would do when you needed to signal that we were wrapping up.

Okay. So people do rap like this or wrap like? this. I don't know that. You put two hands out akimbo and then started doing fireworks with your hands. Okay, got it. It was 10 minutes, but I'm not high. I need to be high, unfortunately. You got some of those things over there. Do I have any joints here? I think so. Okay. So Ruby, you found out that Shannon Bador cuts her presiers. No, I found out that she cuts one piece of like a support out. It would be the equivalent. I'm trying to think of a male something. We have one ball drops. a little further down.

So you have to have a support for the other one. But if you, in the shoes that you're wearing right now, Pat, if you took like the literal bottom lining of your shoe, you just took it out of one because you were like, my foot doesn't like this one, but left it in the other. It's so fucking weird that she does this. I love it about her. I think it's incredible. It was worth it for me to watch about eight minutes total of this episode to learn that.

Have you been wearing the briefs that I got you? Yeah. How are they? Very comfortable. Holds everything in. Do you like them more than boxers? I like boxers to sleep to bed. I've worn yours during the day.

Okay, yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, cool. That's great. Yeah. So we learn, so what is Shannon Bador's older daughter's name? Sophie. All right. So I like the older daughter.

She has three, right? Yep. Sophie seems more responsible than the younger ones. Yeah, I think you're right. Okay. And we'll get past. She used a vibrator. And I like how Vicki's like, you put it inside or out like Vicky?

Vicki. Oh, God, Jesus Christ. Vicki professes the need for kids to learn financial independence. Can I ask really quickly, Roobes, like if one of your friend's moms asked you about how to use a vibrator, like, would, or how you use a vibrator, would you not be like, whoa? it would be it would depend on which mom it was and if it was someone that I loved I would be like that's very weird and inappropriate and if it was someone that I didn't like like vicky in this instance I would be like do you remember when you went up to someone who was paying to get themselves through school and you said you should get an education to a naked woman with sushi on her that's what I'd say because I hate her so much right right right it's fucking weird that she did this it's pedophilic and weird and it's weird and it's like a comfortability like look how crazy I am. Right. Okay. So Vicki says, you know, your kids need to learn financial independence, which is rich coming from her because she floated both her fucking kids well into their late 20s, which is probably why both her kids couldn't live further away from her. And she doesn't see her

grandkids, which is why she's so fucking lonely. You know, that's so interesting because you would think that if you're bankrolling your children, they wouldn't want to get away from you because you've been bankrolling them. It's a honeypot. But I know kids that have been bankrolled by their parents, and they do, they leave. Because the parent is overbearing and they lord it over you like you need them. Right, right, right. And then when they kind of start pulling back the money,

they start going like, uh, I don't like this control and power over me. And then they can't wait to get away from you. Uh-huh. And that's what Vicky did to both of them. Uh-huh. That's why he lives in Spain.

She lives in Oklahoma. She's got her own life. And that's why she's lonely as fuck. Ruby, would you rather live in Oklahoma or Spain? Oh, difficult. What I did love about this is when Vicki looked at Sophie and she said, Shannon's going to budget and she's going to get a house.

And Sophie goes, oh, the way that, and I literally wrote the way parents do when their child shows them a piece of hideous art. It's like, oh, wow. That is, that is impressive. That's amazing. So let's get ready for the louis. Wow, okay. Emily wants an apology from Vicky.

Okay. That's like that's got to fucking happy. By the way, it is a point of in, she's antagonizing Vicky by calling her Victoria, right? This is like her in Meatball. They both have teamed up and said, let's call her Victoria. I don't know if it's antagonistic.

Does Vicki not like to be called Victoria? Her name's Vicki. We've been calling her Vicky for 20 fucking years. And these two idiots have decided to call her Victoria. Okay, well, Vicki and Tamara head over and Eddie's there again, just filming his heart out. And I think what we get to the party and Gina walks in and says, this could have gone to the back taxes. Okay, so, okay, by the way.

I didn't know she had it in her. I mean, this is a moment at the reunion that Meatball is just going to have to apologize for. So she says, and I quote, she doesn't know what the party costs, but it might have been able to go to Shanna Badoors back taxes, end quote. She is slaying this season. Like, wow. It's almost like, you know, you need to become a different person because you're going to get fired soon. Okay. Good luck.

All right. So Emily. We all know you paid for that ring. We all know you paid for that ring. paid for that ring. We all know you paid for that ring. Travis is a loser. Why pay for it? Why not just keep the fake one? Who fucking cares? Because she wanted it on film. Because people were probably on Instagram going, that's cubic circonian. Okay. So Travis is a loser. All right. All right. He's not a loser. He's a nice guy. And they have a burgeoning real estate company with each other, I think. Yeah, exactly, Pat.

So, yeah, interest rates are six and a half points right now. And they're only going up. Uh-huh. I'll take a 20% interest rate if the asset price comes down. Am I right, Ribs? Am I right? Hell yeah. So Emily and Vicky are two lunatics in a Mexican standoff. And this is when Carmela heads over.

Emily and Vicki are sitting there trying to wish apologies out of one another. But Carmela heads over and we prep for Granny versus Carmela. And Tamara says, that Vicky cannot help it. Being messy and fighting with people is in her blood. Now, this is similar to you can't kick people when you're down. You can't be a giant fucking hypocrite. You can't be so not self-aware that you say shit like this, Robs. That's, that's all, Damon. Yeah. Yeah. So Emily heads over to DeBro and Terry goes, Wow, look at how fit you are.

I'm going to go do more fucked up shit to my face or I'm going to get out of here, whatever. V, when he said that, my butthole clench, I was like, not in front of her, Terry, you can't do that. And then when she looked at him mere moments later and said, I would love to cheers you, but I don't have a drink. That was not quite the moment where they got caught off Mike when she was like, don't. don't talk to me right now. We are whatever when she, when she screamed at him. Yeah.

I love when he's out of line and she has to get mad at him, but they're on camera. I love it. Right. Well, there's, it's so funny because like, you know,

I think of Terry and his fucked up face and his, his, you know, millions and millions of dollars and the suit and all that. You know, going, hey, you look great.

And I think about Shane and what Shane would think. and I think that Shane might be the only thing they can do to Emily, what Emily wants done to her. I mean, he, he shows up at that fucking lunch. And they're like, oh, Shane's here.

And he's like, and he's like, and he just raises his hand. But I feel like she, the gulps were here. No, but it's actually, I'm not kidding.

Like, aside from their kids together, which as we know in this town, that's not enough. Uh, She has her own money. She's hot now. She's skinny.

Why? Why? He completes her. Now, Emily and Debrough have just a really healful moment. I mean, this is so beautiful that these two would, they'd kill for each other. Now, this was Emily letting Heather Debrough know that she is kissing the ring once again. She failed. Her and Meatball tried.

And she is kneeling down and letting her know, I'm just going to melt her, melt under your shine. Yeah. You are richer than me. You're prettier than me. You're better than me. Please let me exist under you. Mm-hmm. She cries.

Cries. And Heather DeBrow. Pretends to cry. Grows even more powerful. another scalp claimed. Exactly. So, never do that again.

Shannon and Doug are in love. We went out a couple times. But we have to get to Carmella and Vicky. This was, this was, this was fun. I don't know if we'll make a toast. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

Hey, Vicki, heard you been talking shit about me. Grandma. And the, the two lines from, from Camilla, are that she spits straight fire she says you're new like me we're just trying to figure it out and vicky takes great offense the other thing she says is that everything has an expiration date. Now, please help me make sense of that. Everything has an... Is that a housewife or is that

Marshall Mather's sitting across from Victoria? My God. What does everything have an expiration date mean when Vicky had countered I started this franchise? That she was like, I've been around here forever on the OG. And you're old. Okay, but you, all right. She says your time's going to come to an end and I'll out last you. Oh, okay. I'm a fresher, I'm a fresher tin of beanie weenies than you. Mm.

Okay. Yeah. They do have a 20-year shelf life, I think. Uh, maybe 100. So we move on to the Vicky. Oh my gosh. The,

the most annoying meatball moment of the episode is when Gina goes, that took big balls to say that, but not as big as Travis's balls, because Travis has big balls. Remember everybody that? Oh, my God. My God. My God.

So Vicky fights about the Lequinta thing, and she's mentioning to the girls that they were rude, and the reason why Mike was mad was because she was mad. And while the ladies are fighting about this, Terry is told that Travis and Meatball are engaged. And he says, I love being engaged. it means you can fail. Ha ha ha. And it's a laugh that is so disruptive that the women in the midst of an argument

actually have to turn their heads and go Terry's cackling like a fucking hyena right now. But we get back to it and you know, everything is kind of mended a little bit but I think at one point towards the tail end of the episode, Meatball says, Vicky has a Jedi power where she can be unbelievably rude

and melt down and then just crawl into the fetal position in front of the women and have everyone go, we're so sorry, we're so sorry, we love you. It's true because Carmela is sitting at the table at the end of this and she says to Gina, like, why is everyone in a circle around that woman when she was the one who literally said that I was a fake liar, bad mom and like a whore? Yeah. And she didn't take accountability or really apologize for it.

Now everybody's making her feel better. Yeah, no, Vicky's crestfallen by this, by her behavior. And Emily says, Victoria, we came up there just to get to know you. Emily, what do you have to get to know about Vicky? Okay, you've been filming with her for years. Correct? Correctamundo. What are we talking about here?

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