Another Below Deck Podcast - Before the Show Leaves You | RHOC S20 E11

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

Dylan and Pat are back to break down flip outs, love, conversations, vacation and more from Bravo's RHOC.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badt...vpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, let's go out to date night with Carmella and Danny. Now, I just want to catty patty here. Caddy Patty hasn't made an appearance in a while. What the hell was she wearing? God, have I missed you. Hey, it's Bad TV. I'm Dylan, it's Pat. Great to be here.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Pat's hosting today. My throat hurts. Kind of. I'm kind of hosting. Welcome to Bad TV. Hey, what's up? With our exclusive coverage of the Real Housewives of Orange County. Hey, what's it?
Starting point is 00:00:41 I didn't hate this episode. Really? Mm-hmm. We need to film people that are having a good time. I mean, listen, all of the greatest seasons of this show have been women going out and living their lives. They're out on the town. They're at the St. Charles or whatever the fuck, Luanne was picking people up all the time. They're getting drunk, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:06 And this is just like Shannon Bador is like just driving her dogs through windshields. And Vicki's like hobbling around and getting screamed at by the. this crazy man. It's just not fun. I must say. I did watch the first and second episode of Real Housewives of New York. It was fun. Um, there's, have you, have you watched any of it, Dylan? It's kind of a hodgepodge of the, the next generation, New York, like some of the, the new people. Yeah. And then, uh, and then some, some new faces. And it works. They took out the trash, the phonies from the next generation. Of course, Luann and all the, you know, the, the, the OGs, the legacy characters aren't back. But it just... Carol's back, right? Carol's back. And she's kind
Starting point is 00:01:57 of deadweight. And it's, but it's funny because they, they brought her back, clearly, to just mock her and use her because of her ties to Jeffrey Epstein. No. What? Talk about a conspiracy. That's why they brought her back. Yeah. No. Oh, you didn't know this? What are you talking about? Well, who is, um, who is Jeffrey Epstein's associate?
Starting point is 00:02:22 What? The one that's in jail right now. The one, oh, you're talking about Gisland Maxwell. Yeah. She shot her book cover. Carol. Yeah. They're friends.
Starting point is 00:02:32 They know each other. She shot it? Mm-hmm. She's a photographer. They were that close to friends. I thought she was an author. No, Carol's an author. And then she had Gis Lane take a picture of her for a book cover.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That's how close they were. She knows Jeffrey well. Oh, got it. So once they got that little nugget, she was supposed to just be a friend of a friend of this season, and then they put her on the front cover of this show in the forefront. Well, also evidently what's been going on is that they were filming while the Kennedy shit was out. The love story.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yes, which is extremely inaccurate, so I'm told. Right. But, well, they do cover Hillary Clinton bombing that plane, though, don't they? Oh. Do they cover Hillary? Yeah, they got to get those people out of that White House. They keep killing people, you know. I just want someone who's not a murderer.
Starting point is 00:03:25 They killed like 22 people. Now, no, I'm stop it. Stop it, Norm. Okay. Well, I'm just saying. I mean, he keeps killing people. Here's the thing about to bring this back to Vicky and I guess with Carol too in New York. You'll go, this is how much you need to be famous.
Starting point is 00:03:45 you need to fill your soul, your empty bag of soul to be on TV, that you'll go on TV and be mocked and made fun of and destroyed for the sake of being on television. Vicky, look how miserable and pathetic you look on television. It's honestly, you know, when you see an athlete that should have retired a couple of years ago? I am so glad you brought that up. Because the example I was going to bring up was Muhammad Ali.
Starting point is 00:04:19 He's the champ. He gave, he showed so many young men what it is to be a champion. And to idolize that man, a phrase of the thriller in Manila, just to stand your ground and fight. And then he retires and decides to come back. And then he got his fucking ass pummeled in the ring, Holmes. I forget the first name of the fighter, but he, it was so bad that the other fighter kept looking at the referee to call the fight. He felt so bad that he was beating Muhammad Ali
Starting point is 00:04:57 beating his ass so bad. Yes, that applies to this. Vicky, sometimes it's not a good thing to go back. I'd say Leona Machita, Randy Gattoura. We're not big fighting guys. You know, the UFC is just so annoying. But you know, a young buck comes in, kicks you in the face, your teeth fly all over the place. You got to retire, okay? The point I think we're both making is, Vicky, you gave so much. And sometimes you don't need to go back and retread old territory. You did it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 You're done. Why are you here? But it goes to a larger point, and it's not just about age. It's not just about legacy. Showing up and not having the goods. That's when you go, yeah, I mean, it's fine. I'll do it. I don't have anything.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And I'm willing to subject everyone to me without having the goods to merit me being on TV. But fuck it. Let's do it. Meatball. Emily, Vicky, Shannon, Tamara. Heather Debrough is literally like the monocle man in Monopoly. It's just like, what are we doing here? All right.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Now Heather DeBro. Let's get to her. I give it four tits. Okay, no, it's zero tits. And let me tell you why. You like this episode. Well, because it's a hate watch and it's fun to just mock. You see the parts just moving.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Heather to bro, now that she's weathered the storm of being called fake, being almost caught being a bad person because she called someone trash, has now reverted back to one of her three storylines, which is her kids are awesome. Mm-hmm. Right. And then Terry and her are throwing a party. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Which are usually extremely tacky for their level of wealth. Yes. And their real estate portfolio. Yeah. We're back. Everybody, look at my plans of our condo that we live in in Century City. Remember,
Starting point is 00:07:07 she is a very calculated person that, uh, that, that is very careful about what she'll let you see in her life, which is almost nothing. Her and Terry are fighting. They're not doing well. You think she'd ever let you inside to see that?
Starting point is 00:07:21 Fuck, no. Her kids aren't doing well. Something's going on, not doing anything at school. Something going wrong. Never let you inside that. She doesn't let you see anything. And she never will. But what she will let you see is her fucking banger,
Starting point is 00:07:37 real estate portfolio. You know, it's so strange to me. Like, she admits it. She, in the twilight years of her, life does not want to see a blade of grass. This is a woman who, and Terry, whatever they are, I don't even think it's, they're not even gendered at this point. They're just alien creatures, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:07 They have found this sterile century city penthouse, and they're calling it their forever home. Now, people are different, right? But usually you want to be a little closer to the, to planet earth, to the blades of grass, to dare I say, a little restraint and quaintness, then a fucking Bruce Wayne penthouse. What are you going to be in there when you're fucking 88 years old? What kind of fucking shit is that? No, Dylan, this is the place. For an 88 year old, this is where you fucking retire because I know this building well, because I drive by it quite a bit. It's in Century City. And unlike New York City where you live in a tall building like this, there's nothing around this.
Starting point is 00:09:01 When you go down to the bottom floor of this fucking building, there's nothing walking distance from it. There's no cool restaurants. There's no fucking shopping. There's a bunch of, I know, it's a bunch of fucking condominiums with old fucking Jews living in them. There's nothing there. It's a tall building. It has no soul. It looks like a fucking office building.
Starting point is 00:09:23 This is the worst place to live. Honestly, did you see their balcony? There is an Italy. Two blocks away. Edelie. Are you talking about the Westfield? Yeah. Yeah, that is not two blocks away, Dylan.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Oh, it's not? No. No. This is on Avenue of the fucking stars. Oh, okay. Yeah. I trust me, I know the area. And you think they're going to fucking walk there?
Starting point is 00:09:49 No, no, no. How far away is that Edelie, though, from Avenue and stars? Okay, so I'll give you some math. Five minutes? Downtown is 10 miles away. Hollywood is about five miles away. They're probably about a half a mile to a mile away from Italy. No, about a half a mile.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Okay. Yeah. But nothing walking. The reason you live in a tall building. Right. Is that you, like, love the views. And the area. You get to go down and be in the area.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yes. No, they're just by CAA. They're just by a knife's office building. That's right. Yeah, the whole thing is. They're idiots. I, okay, this fucking show. All right, sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:28 What, how long have we been talking? I mean, what, what happens this episode? All right, nothing. All right, zero tits. All right. Tensions are high in Lakeita. Apparently, Mike's mad for some reason. And Victoria.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Shut up. And shut up. You wore. Whart hog. Why are you here, you whart hog? Shut up. Well, I guess he owns the house with her, apparently. Yeah, for sure. They keep calling Vicky Victoria for some reason. I think they think it's a jag on her or something. She has just told her three guests to leave her house. What I think we have here is a little cranky person that doesn't want to film anymore. during the day. Like, she's done filming for the day. And the cameras are still rolling.
Starting point is 00:11:21 You just told, Emily does a little calculation here because Vicky says, no, I want you guys to stay. And Emily goes, no, I think, I think I'm going to make a thing out of this.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I think, I think I'm going to head out. Oh, yeah. And to her, you know, credit, I would,
Starting point is 00:11:39 too, you know, get me away from this. And when they leave, Vickie goes, I can't believe they left. And Shannon Mador is, we told everybody to leave.
Starting point is 00:11:48 She goes, now I was talking to the crew. The crew is still here filming. What are you talking about? You just threw a temper tantrum. Okay, so let's back up a little bit here, Dale. Okay, so Vicky enters the bedroom
Starting point is 00:11:59 where Emily and Jen are packing. Q like this scary horror music because this is a different Vicky. She's like, hey, what's going on? Why are you packing? And they're like, well, you told us to leave.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I didn't tell you to leave. leave. Actually, she's correct. You didn't tell them to leave. You said, get the fuck out of my house, actually. And then she lies and says, I told the crew that. No, you didn't. You said, get the fuck out of my house. Okay. And then, by the way, this is part
Starting point is 00:12:31 of the horror movie where you actually do get that. Leave your shit there and just run out of the house. And then, I guess, oh, I guess Vicky does everything she can to get them to stay.
Starting point is 00:12:46 but they already called for that $460 Uber, you know. And you are correct. I think Emily's thinking, this would be way cooler if we just take off. We're going to take off. We're going to take off. Yeah. And they do. And then, yes, it is so sad to see Shannon Bador have to sit there with Vicky and explain to Vicki,
Starting point is 00:13:11 well, you're kind of crazy. And this is a person that, you know, drove. into another house with her dog in the car. Yeah, when you operate motor vehicles, one of the main tenants of operating them is to not drive into houses. It's like a thing where if you're doing it well, you're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And Shannon Bador did do that. Now, we can get over it. But she's a liability. Absolutely. Meanwhile, in Los Alivas, the gals are enjoying a quiet night under the stars while taking jabs at Victoria. At her fruitless attempts at love, they discuss that ring that's sitting in a safe
Starting point is 00:14:08 while Victoria's heart is being held hostage. And they point out, Vicky's a strong woman, but not when it comes to love, swap out love for men. She dates men that use her for. camera time or money or whatever or both. Yeah, that's right. And then Meatball then realizes why Travis took so long to propose, but who really cares about what Meatball has to say?
Starting point is 00:14:31 She makes a joke about Vicky being older than that fucking 200-year-old tree that they're sitting under. Hey, Meatball, too little too late. I'm pretty sure they'll be casting. I'm pretty sure casting's going to be a bloodbath next season. And I'm going to enjoy you. I'm going to enjoy you doing Instagram posts about how you're going to sue Andy. Wait, did you skip over Emily and Shane?
Starting point is 00:14:57 Oh, no, we're going to get there. Okay. Yeah, yeah. This is the next morning. Well, actually, let's start with next morning. Back in Solvane, the ladies prepare breakfast, and Heather DeBroll falls back on one of her old, more comfortable storylines, her real estate portfolio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Remember, Heather Debrough, I pointed this out. actually has four storylines. Her kids, real estate renovations, charity work. Oh yeah. And the parties they throw. Many times the interest will overlap. So they'll be doing like a show for a charity or they'll be doing like a charity with her children. That last one, which was had joints there. I thought she hired a party planner that probably just got out of jail. That's how tacky it was. Okay. In Palm Springs, Vicky starts adding up the money that those fucking bitches, her words, owe her for leaving. $450 each.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Too soon. It was $450 each. Oh, Vicky, come on. Shannon Bador, Bador attempts to bring some sense to Vicky, but it does not go well. In fact, Vicki turns on Shannon Bador. Vicki's just full of piss and vinegar this season. This is what we're talking about. You've been gone too long.
Starting point is 00:16:18 you shouldn't be here. There's places that you think, there's things you think you want to do and you don't want to do. You shouldn't be there. Like, do you, have you been watching? You don't want to go to a Vegas nightclub. Have you been,
Starting point is 00:16:36 you just don't, you don't belong there? Have you been watching Girlship a little bit? No. Okay. Louan is having a blast. She's hopped up on something. Pills. Probably.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. She's singing. Uh-huh. Yeah. She's having a great time. Her and Al Pacino remind me a lot of one another. Ola.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Whoa? You got a great ass. He's way up in it. Dear. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So Emily's house. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's morning. and we get a double whammy of Emily's storylines that we're tired of. Emily, her marriage is falling apart. She hates this guy. And then we, oh yeah, and then Luke, he's got problems. She uses her son as a storyline.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I got some advice for her. Stop exploiting your son. Well, I mean, she's just trying to show her life and help people out there. with children on the spectrum deal with or feel seen oh i bet she gets reached out to a lot for her shining a light on this i think right i think that she has gotten reached out to by a lot of people um the question is how is emily helping now i know the answer do the opposite of what she's doing no i'm kidding she sounds like she is doing what she can to deal with this as successfully as she can including an antibiotic flush, which was a brutal thing to hear about.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You know, I think that while Emily is very grating and we're, quite frankly, sick and tired of her, there is a really heartbreaking thing where your child is sick or has something wrong, and you'll go to the ends of the earth to try to fix it. including this experimental antibiotic flush, which decreases the swelling of his brain, but also leaves him unable to sleep and puking. So we're just trying to have some fun here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 That's, that's, you see what I'm saying? Oh, 100%. And by the way, if we're not, what is it? Spellbound by what's taking place in this house so far. We learn about the boys' cleaning habits of their bedrooms. I know the camera crew must have been like, we got gold here. And then Emily lets us know,
Starting point is 00:19:26 Shane doesn't think she is around enough to help out with the kids. And I pointed this out on another podcast we recorded today. Don't worry, Shane. She'll have plenty of time after this season. She'll have plenty of time. Because if she's back next season,
Starting point is 00:19:45 this fucking show is, fucking dead on a rock it's over it's over there there will be a revolt it's over now i don't think anybody likes this show uh i think it i think it does but it's it's clearly a hate watch i don't know you don't do hate watches twice though i'm gonna look up their viewership okay jen and tam rat meet for lunch once sworn enemies now shit talking yeah another reason like how is this show this bad These two fucking hated each other, hated each other, have had no real resolution with one another,
Starting point is 00:20:26 just all this unsaid fake nonsense. And before you know it, we've gone from that to sitting down at lunch with each other. And it's just like, whoa. It's so bad that it's confusing. We've talked about this so many times, the way that this show is structured and edited and released is a confusing thing to watch.
Starting point is 00:20:44 It is. isn't it funny that Tamrat is now riding the line of kind of like a normal Real Housewives character where she's not she doesn't have her minions out like digging up like paperwork on bad tax filings or things like that she's just just a normal shitster like talking about how Carmelo's tags registration tags are a little sketchy they're bringing in about 500,000
Starting point is 00:21:15 That's bad. That's really bad. That's bad. Seeing as I always say like when we get our downloads, you're like, well, two idiots, a producer and occasionally a co-host named Ruby. And we get like a pretty decent fraction of that for, I don't know what, 1,000th of the cost. I mean, listen, I put out a podcast yesterday that got the same amount of views as a fucking, I mean, good God. We put out a clip three weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:21:46 They got a million. I know. It's very, very sad. All right. Good luck, Bravo. All right, Emily and Carmelo and Shannon Bordor grab lunch at the tea house. We've been here before. Shannon Bador says she doesn't blame the girls for leaving.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It notes that Vicky has a habit of blurting out things. Emily is quick to shout out. She has a lot to say about you. It's, yeah. I think she was referring to Carmello there. And Carmelo says, So, well, backhanded Betty talked a lot of shit. And then Carmelo shares for the 11th time that she's still struggling with that cheating piece of shit, Danny.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Here's my advice to Carmelo. Well, get the fuck over it. Find someone else. Or move on. Because it's type of love. And then Carmelo remembers Vicki thinks she's pretending to live in that house. but I think it's been explained. They're renting that house and they just moved in
Starting point is 00:22:52 and then she's been really busy. Is that the explanation? Yeah, she moved in that house to essentially pretend that she's living in Orange County to be a cast member. Can we just be open about all this? All right. Meanwhile, Jen mentions Vicki was working during the trip and told everybody to shut up in the car.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Right, right, right. And then back to Carmela pointing out how Vicki is pretty hums, what mums the word about that boyfriend, Michael. Can I, there was one moment in the conversation between Jen and Tamara where Jen says, Jen's recounting the lady's getting pulled over.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Or no, Tamara is. And Jen can't believe it. She goes, I am so shocked. And she goes, if I would, if I got pulled over with expired registration and tinted windows, I'd be thrown in jail. But that's just Carmela. Yeah, that's pretty laughable coming from you, Jed.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Jen, when was the last time you paid a registration? No. When was the last time you had the correct registration tags on your car? You didn't pay rent at your mortgage, rent at your rental for four months and you fucked meatball over. But Dill, that's not where I thought you were going. Your home was rated by the FBI with the guy you're dating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Those would glass houses should not throw stones. But also, that's so Carmela is just like a, what have you guys known each other for at this point? Three weeks? Three and a half weeks? Crazy. Okay. Let's see here. Where are we?
Starting point is 00:24:52 Emily, Jan, and Carmella at IT. They talk about Danny. And then everybody is really concerned about Vicky and that she is, she's kind of hiding Mike from the rest of the gang. And then Vicki's been kind of grouchy lately. And then I would say, yeah, she's, she's grouchy. The reason why I think we're a little hesitant right now to try to find some more meat on this bone, this portion of the episode. And I think it's because what comes next is, um, oh, we're getting to meatball and Travis? Oh, yeah, deals too.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Lovely people. Sure. Lovely people. That break it down. Oh, sure. I'm happy to. Travis and Meatball take a walk on the beach. They haven't been down here in a while.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Meatball used to walk here all the time when she first got there, but she's been too busy. They waste spending money on a wedding or buying a bigger place. Get ready. Travis, who clearly is a genius, makes the case, let's not buy a bigger house because the kids will be out of the house at some point. that would I like that line of thinking
Starting point is 00:26:22 what a dumb fucking thing to say I think he's a real estate agent too I don't think it's a dumb thing no because they're not going to be out of the house soon they have kids that are like 10 also so you can use the money for a wedding
Starting point is 00:26:40 hello light money on fire like that a wedding is not an investment you moron like no Go buy the bigger house. He is dumb. Oh my God, these two people were meant for each other.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Okay, so they're looking for a $3 million house to be comfortable. Then they joke they'll get married before Jen and Ryan will. Yeah, robots will have killed humanity before Jen and Ryan get married. Let's all be honest. Because that ain't happening. Anyway, he finally gives her- And that whole robots killing humanity thing. That could take a while.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Like long... What we're trying to say is... What we're trying to say is Jen and Ryan will go beyond the veil without having gotten married. So there's plenty of time for the robots to take over. They'll be life partners. Then Travis gives Gina a real ring instead of that fake, fucking plastic piece of shit he put on her finger for Instagram. Okay. Should we get to...
Starting point is 00:27:47 What did he put on her hand for? Instagram. Cuba CERconian. You know what? Don't, it's fine. People want to do CZs or lapgrown, whatever they want to do. Okay. All right, let's go out to date night with Carmela and Danny. Now, I just want to, catty patty here. Caddy Patty hasn't made an appearance in a while. What the hell was she wearing? God, have I missed you? Oh my God. After this dinner, was she going to go to her dominatress job, where she was going to step on some guy's ball? Who wears that out to dinner? So you agree with catty patty?
Starting point is 00:28:34 What did you say? Can you imagine wearing that out to a restaurant? I didn't pay attention to it. I don't know what she was wearing. Well, everything that Carmel wears is probably the best year of her life. She's kind of like a dude. It just reads 2008, which is probably the year she posed nude for Playboy. She got a banging body.
Starting point is 00:28:57 She rocks it. but she cannot get over this thing with Danny. I mean, oh, yeah, she goes six months from now. Where are we going to be? And Danny,
Starting point is 00:29:06 you got to give it to him. He is Teflon-Don. He just keeps smiling through the entire thing. He goes, I think we're going to be great. I think we'll do therapy. Little, or come to find out,
Starting point is 00:29:16 he was trying to bang another woman after he got cheated. Well, after he cheated. Hold on. She caught him lying about who is on the phone with. I guess that could, uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:29:27 she caught him lying about who he was going to go to a showing with. We dated before, right? All right. Well, you know, that can- He had dated a woman. He was going to go see her at a showing. Lied about who it was. Now, listen, maybe he's just,
Starting point is 00:29:45 what wants to be cautious, doesn't want Carmela to get upset about things that he knows are actually nothing. But, yeah, maybe. I think he was going there to bang her. No. Yeah, yeah. I don't think so. Not while they're filming.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Get in the comments. Well, we'll see. But anyway, I couldn't pay attention to this. Dylan, did you notice? I noticed details because I get really bored while I'm watching this show. The window behind them was covered with fucking flies. Let me know if you noticed that too. Like a thousand flies.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Initially, I thought it was raindrops, and I'm like, oh my God, this place is disgusting. Was it really? Yes, behind them. You know, I've never seen the fly. You have to see it. The sequel's good, too, with Eric Stoltz. He's the baby that's born, half fly, half human. Is it a Kronberg?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Who is? It's Kronberg? Yes. The fly. The fly. It's scary. I wasn't scared by it. More interested in it.
Starting point is 00:30:54 It's dark. Extremely. It's fun, too, because Jeff Goldblum is just he brings his funny weirdness to it. Is it sad? Yeah, I mean, the ending of both are kind of sad. So the first one, Jeff Goldblum, scientists, turns it slowly turns into a fly, and then, uh, you know, goes awry. Second one, Gina Davis, who had sex with Jeff Goldblum, gives birth to their son, who then goes right into a science lab, who they bring up. And then, uh, they start doing experiments with him. him and then he escapes.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It's fun. Now, to those listening, are you picking up what we're putting down? Oh, we're moving on from Orange County. Yeah, sorry. All right, let's wrap this up. Okay, let's go to Heather Debrose's new penthouse. They give Carol the tour. Here's some details.
Starting point is 00:31:51 It was 14 mil, but they're going to drop two million bucks just to renovate it. Carol says, you should paint the ceiling black. Like your soul. It's really, really, and like I said, different people are, you know, different. There are people that are not dog people. I'm not a dog person. That's fine. And a lot of people who are dog people would be like, how can you, you know, that's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So people like different things. But Heather DeBrow walking through this fucking soulless, high, Rise banquet hall that she's going to die in. It's an office building with no character. Explaining what she's going to do interior design-wise is just... You don't want a champagne tunnel? No. I don't want a champagne tunnel. Oh.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And a champagne tunnel sounds actually pretty cool. That's how this is. Yeah, if you're a 25-year-old... Rapper. Rapper. Right. That will bring back girls that are 22, that might be impressed by that.
Starting point is 00:33:04 But you're a 58-year-old woman that doesn't invite anybody back to your house because you think they're disgusting. And Heather Debrough was like, her mom was pitching her on how she should design the place. And Heather Debrose was like, if my mom had her wish, it would be filled with all these trinkets and,
Starting point is 00:33:27 you know, exotic furniture and things all over the walls and stuff like that. And I'm like, that's so much more aesthetically synchronized than what you're going, or substantial than what you're going to do. Like what her mom described was something like, like Fran Leibowitz's gay friend that lives in New York. That's what his apartment looks like. Not this sterile fucking hospital room that you live in with a tunnel of champagne.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It's just crazy. a tacky there. By the way, I had not really put together why they'd completely like scoffed at the idea of living on land. If you hear her say, we don't like maintenance
Starting point is 00:34:18 and blades of grass. And then she says, and there's crime. And I was like, oh, no, you don't want to live down with the regular people because of the crime. like when they've decided to live up in the skyscrapers, that's when all the break-ins were happening, like the house.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Oh, the housewives and stuff. Yes. Got it. And I think they probably said we don't want that to ever happen to us. Huh. Interesting. Just a thought. I hope it's safe up there come the next earthquake that's coming.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yeah. All right. Last scene, we get to Vicky. This was a real moment where Vicky essentially, it basically admits she's fucking. lonely. And Tamara is, you know, maybe she's, this is the real Tam, Tamrat. Hey, Tam. Hi, Tam.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But this is what I'm saying when you show up without the goods, right? When you get in the ring without the goods. Perhaps people are interested in a redemptive arc for Vicky, something that takes maybe a season, two seasons, three seasons. She starts at a low and Stella gets her group. back. I can tell you, I don't think that that many people fucking give a shit to invest this much in that. We want to see Vicky whooping it up. And Vicky has come back to this season. Like you mentioned, in pure desperation, you don't have really anything going on. So what makes you a good fit for this? One, on another tangent, one of the things that I picked up on was that she said that
Starting point is 00:35:58 had she never moved to California, which would have been a completely different life, had she stayed back in, where are they from, like, Chicago or something? Her and Dawn would have stayed married, like all her other friends, who are still married. And then,
Starting point is 00:36:12 because that would have been a completely different life. And then I also thought she's lonely. All the people that she cares about aren't around anymore. Her son is in Spain. Her daughter's in Oklahoma with their grandchildren. all her real friends she doesn't really doesn't have around i think her brother who she's really has a good relationship with he doesn't live here either her her only like passion is her
Starting point is 00:36:39 work this the women on this show on her fucking friends i know it's we're just trying to have a good time yeah and so that's why i'm just like we're just trying to have a good time i don't know why maybe vicky maybe reality tv and being a workaholic and then then maybe own one less house and take some time off of work and, uh, and have real relationships. I look, I'm not a, I look, I'm a fuck up. I shouldn't be giving anybody any advice, but you, you look like you're fucking miserable. Yeah, get in the comments. Let us know what you thought of the episode. Uh, we'll be back next week for more real housewives. Okay. We love you guys very much. I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Pat say goodbye.
Starting point is 00:37:21 There, dudes.

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