Another Below Deck Podcast - Bringing Up the Mortgage | RHOBH S15 Reunion Pt. 1

Episode Date: April 26, 2026

Dylan, Pat and Ruby are back to break down mortgages, punch daggers, wealth, financial abuse, friendship and more from Bravo's RHOBH.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

We've got, what are we doing, Athena, with the snake thing on the arm and wasn't a big fan of the dress? Ooh. If Caddy Patty's not here, we don't. Caddy's not here. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. Hmm. Caddy Dill here.

Thought it was fucking disgusting. That's disgusting. Okay. Hi, hello, and welcome to another brand spanking new episode of Bad TV. I'm Dylan. That is Pat. Good to be here. Kim John.

Oon is joining us from North Korea. actually. Hi, Dill, hi, Pat. How are you? Good. How's your gout, babe? Gout's good.

Thanks for asking. Gout's good. Thanks for asking. Go to patreon.com for summer house. Summerhouse, baby. We were having so much fun breaking down this, the 10th season of Summerhouse.

I'd say the best season of Summer House or the most stuff happening. The stakes are so high. Rhode Island, dude. Rhode Island, dude. I just watched the recent episode. Ooh, that thing is fire. and all in all. I don't know what they did to cast this, but the drama is there. One of the wives

sits, uh, rule it down and says, I want to talk to you about your husband because I think he's still cheating. She says, don't hold back. Show me the receipts. She goes, okay, I will. Here is a screenshot of text with your husband with the mistress. She looks at him. She says, I'm not buying it. Go ahead, but don't hold back. Give it to me straight. She goes, okay, fine. Here's a phone call, uh, of the mistress actually saying she's having sex with her husband. She goes, AI. She goes, but still, all right, I want you to don't hold back anything. Give it to me a great season. Go to Patreon.com slash another podcast network for that and Summerhouse. We are here today to break down part one of the reunion of Beverly Hills. What did we think about it and how many Babes would we give it,

Robs? Why don't you go ahead and take us away with the Babes? All right. Didn't love. I'm hoping that we get a little spicier for two and I guess three. Everybody looked very, we were fun to look at today. I will give them that. There was a lot of visual things to be distracted by and to sort of make fun of. And that was nice. But aside from that really not much. I'm going to go, I'm going to go in 28 babies. Is Candy Paddy coming out in the Bay Vez or are we saving it? You, uh, you go first. We know each other like the back of our hands.

I mean, it's just crazy. It's such a privilege to be podcasting with you guys. So fun. Doreet is a vicious bitch. That's what I, I mean, well, I've, I've learned that from the season, but she is like, I don't know if there are things that have happened off camera.

She's so not here to recognize. reconcile in any degree, shape, or form. Really, the stuff with Erica is the confusing thing. Not so much, Kyle. I understand if she... You know Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy Guthrie? Well, I don't think I know her because she got kidnapped. I'd like to know her.

If Dorit, Nancy Guthrie, Kyle, and there were just billboards all of it, I would understand it, okay? Long way of saying that. But the stuff with Erica, I'm just very confused by, Durit is so mean. There's the Bose versus Amanda stuff. Amanda continues to be such a horrible person, but may you be blessed with foolish enemies. She's just able to dip, dive, duck, and weave. She's just bought herself another season or three.

I thought it was fun. I'm going to give it two babies. Wow. You and I are sympatical. Yeah. All right. Slow start with the reunion. I really don't care about Rachel Zoe's life.

She's wonderful on the show, but I don't need to go beat. by beat about how Kai feels about the divorce or Jerry or whatever the fluck. I will address the Rachel Zoh thing probably when we get into it because I do have thoughts on her and her being very immature about the nature of a divorce and who your kids will have a relationship with, i.e. the girlfriend or possibly a new stepmom. I think she has control issues. I think Ruby will probably disagree with you. Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. But then it starts get going. And then we get to the part where it really was interesting was the foreclosure. Oh my God. You're going to bring 800,000 current? With what monopoly money? That was that. Right. And I did

some math on this. And in order to get to 800,000 with interest on a $6 million house, that's three years of no payments. And when Doreet assert, that she had no idea. I would push against that because when you owe a bank or a debtor, $800,000, they show up at your house. How do you not post things on your fence? They find your cell phone number. So she's full of shit.

Well, even if they didn't take such extreme measures, which they did. You didn't find, you didn't see one letterhead. You didn't see one single piece of snail mail with any kind of concerning envelope. Not one in three years. I have said since we started recapping this show, she spends 90% of her day in her bedroom screaming at walls.

Yeah. And the walls shouldn't have done that, to be fair. Fine. Bose continues a downward spiral. I don't know what kind of amnesia she has, but it does not speak well of her. I think this is the third time she's been caught saying, I never said that. Because as a business person, a leader, supervisor, manager, owner, life coach, whatever the fruct she's saying she is, when you emphatically say, I never said that,

and then they play a tapeback of you absolutely saying that, it makes you out to be a fucking liar. And someone who's like Amanda, who's an absolutely unlikable person, it actually gives her redeeming qualities. I liked the episode for that. These people are pretty much all awful, including you, Kyle. I'm going to give it 13 ba-b-bays. Tonight, the three-part Real Housewives reunion begins. Kyle has hair that is concreted and cemented to her head. Erica looks amazing.

Rachel Zoe is in J. Mendel. There's a car on the set. It's a Rolls-Royce. We can't really see it in Doree. excuse me so sorry about that oh my god i'm gonna just go ahead and bleep that okay because that was that was horrific it was a diet Pepsi thing happening and and i apologize i don't think diet coke would have done that i don't know what's you like diet coke more than diet Pepsi right it's all i drink well clearly not do you not do you not have a problem with what's going on in your house right now

where you have diet Pepsi? I don't care. Are you confused? No, like, I won't get a Pepsi. Like, if I go out and I say, can I have a Diet Coke and they say, oh, we have Diet Pepsi, is that okay? I say, no, I'll take an insert other beverage here. Can I tell you something?

I'm quite enjoying this Diet Pepsi. All right. Shout out Pepsi. What do you do at Taco Bell? A Pepsi franchise. Yeah, cry. You know what else is only Pepsi? fucking jet blue. It's awful.

My God. I know. Any Pepsi lovers get in the comments. Yeah. And if you're a Coke lover, go to war with them. Okay. So, the set. Yes. The set. Andy points out that the set is actually an exact replica of

Rodeo Drive. I mean, it's missing the 200 teenagers smashing every fucking window and stealing shit. Well, that was just a couple of years ago. It was one about a month ago. But other than that, it looks exactly like the O'Don Drive. All right. So here's what Andy is manifesting today.

Conflict. Good. Everyone is obsessed with Getty Lee and Jerry Garcia or whatever their names are. The kids. And Erica is, she's at least honest about DJing. Okay. DJ Pretty Miss. She says, what could be better, babe?

I got to Australia and I play other people's music. music. Yeah, baby. That's what she's doing. All right. So, well, I was going to say, don't you remember when Andy asked Amanda what she'll be manifesting today? What's she say?

She said, I'll be manifesting, uh, being myself in the truth. I'd argue that those things should already exist within your soul. Not much manifesting for those two things. Ruby, do you know who Res is? Have you ever heard of Res? Like the DJ? Yeah. Yes, of course.

Why? I saw her at Coachella. and I'm not a DJ person. I don't like the boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, right? I was like, oh my gosh, is she amazing or what? So cool. You went to Coachella? No, I watched it on YouTube.

I went to Coachella in 2010. My God, I was going to say, Dylan, when you, Luke going to fish dad you? Mm-hmm. Yeah, me and Cs just took the weekend off from parenting, went to Coachella, paid $17,000. for an Airbnb and candy flipped. Wow. Yeah. I threw up in a porta potty.

Yeah. Good time though, right? Yeah. Hey, can I point out why Erica Jane is now pivoted into DJ Pretty Mess? Why? It's much more affordable. You can't be getting the whole glam squad and Mikey over there. You don't have that dead guy.

The dancers, we don't need the dancers, right? They don't add much. No. Can I also point out that it's, it is much. easier than it is to do the other stuff, you know? That's right. You just have your, I don't know, you have that laptop with the mixers. That's right.

And you set up there. The knobs. That's right. Oh, and then Beau says, hey, can I ask you formally, Erica, our DJ mess, pretty mess. Can you perform at my wedding that will be punted to 2028 and then never happened? She said, absolutely. Yeah. You got it, dude.

Can I say, I don't think Erica is a good DJ. for a wedding. I think she's a good DJ for a gay bar. A wedding is a little bit different. And can I say that Ruby's DJ at her wedding? I'm not a dancer. I have crippling social anxiety and my hips don't. My hips do lie. They want to move, but I can't let them move, right? I see people doing the duggy and I just want to be able to move. I want to move like that. It looks so fun, but I simply can. Anyways, the DJ was incredible. I mean, incredible. I feel so bad for the guy who did the duggy because he died when it was a hit right at the top of his height of his fame. Really? Pulled an F. Scott Fitzgerald, did the guy that created the dougie.

Wow, that's amazing. Do the ducky. Any thoughts on the things that have been said recently? Dylan and I dancing, if you don't know, Clayton Eckert, Eckart from The Bachelor is on a dancing journey. Look him up on TikTok. That's what Dylan and I look like if we tried to dance. Definitely don't want to see that. Kyle is the longest running housewife across all franchises and she looks fucking thrilled about it. Congratulations.

Hey, Kyle, are you all right? You seem really upset by that news. Congratulations, Kyle. It's Morgan. I just booked a gig on the new spinoff of, uh, uh, what's that show that Kevin Costa was on. Anyway, I'm an actress now. She did not.

Mm-hmm. She's the bartender in the Dutton Ranch spinoff. That's right. I don't want to be famous, though. No. Get me off the show, please. I don't like the attention. I don't like those shows.

I don't really watch them. But you got to give the guy's flowers. Sicario. I mean, are you kidding me? Fantastic. Unbelievable script. Incredible. All right.

So, Kyle and Dorit, can they come together? Now, we have a couple of different answers. baby, no. We have a couple of different porridge here. Kyle would like it. Derreet says we'll see. And Erica Jane says, no, baby. No,

not a chance. Not with this one. All right. So we start with Rachel Zoe and her husband. It's fucking everywhere. Roger is upset. Who is Roger? And why did I write that? That's her ex-husband.

Oh, okay. He didn't want her on the show. She made him look like an asshole. That's what that's about. Okay. What do we get? Are you good with his girlfriend? No, not ever.

I think this is where you're referring to. I have friends that are getting divorces and people get into this place in divorce where there's a lot of vitriol, right? We're broiling the real. relationship. I think that you never know what's going to happen. Maybe there will be animosity the whole way through. But I think like Ruby and my parents are divorced and they're very affable with one another. They're friends and they always will have a love for one another. I think closing yourself off this aggressively is totally understandable, but maybe a little naive. I don't know.

Is that what you were referring to with the maturity? Not necessarily. Rachel has taken a hard stance against the children interacting with her soon-to-be-ex-husband's new girlfriend, but she's not new. She's been around for two years at the time of this filming. Now it's even longer. Her stance when asked if the kids will ever have a relationship with her, she says, no, never. And the reality is that's not a decision for you to make. That's a decision for you to make with your husband and the children.

as far as I know she's not a registered sex offender or has any felonies under her belt, you have to be more mature about this. I get from Rachel Zoe that she's a control freak and has probably controlled every aspect of her life, her entire life. And with this, I think she's bothered by the fact that this is something she cannot control. It's a little bit wait for the Nazi stuff to call them a Nazi, that kind of thing. Right. So I think that's, she probably has to get, she probably needs to get some.

therapy to understand why she's truly bothered with her children, maybe going to the park with this woman or watching a movie with her. You need therapy, but maybe. For her to understand why it bothers her so much is my point. Ruby, you have something. Yeah, Robs, go ahead. Okay, I was not, I thought that she was, when Andy asked her, are you guys ever going? I think, I think he did.

I think he did. I thought it was the kids. Yeah, if it's about the kids, that's just a very weird, just no, that's not appropriate to say about her and this woman. Their Instagram feud, I think if you're coming into this relationship as this girlfriend, they're going through a divorce. She is on a TV show. She obviously has a very large following and she's kind of famous and whatnot. You just have to shut the fuck up. Like there were children involved. And when she came for Rachel Zoe, that was okay. When she ended that little Instagram thing with, I'll see you at the bot mitzvah. That would be a declaration of

fucking war for the rest of the time that you are around my kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can't do. I didn't know anything about the girlfriend. If the girlfriend is actively attacking her on social media. Can I say something? Hey, uh, yeah, no, never. We've talked about this with below that and stuff. I'll actually, Nancy Guthrie, you actually before we're friends. Rachel Zoh gets a full platform or 42 minutes weekly to then paint her side of the, of what's taking place. And much of the picture she painted was this was just a random girl that her ex-husband started dating and had not been around long. In reality, that was not the reality of the situation. So I think the ex or the new girlfriend gets an opportunity to give her side of the story since this woman gets this platform.

Yeah, well, just don't be catty about it. Be adults, everybody. We get to Kyle shitting on Rachel Zoe. I guess we cheat and get diamonds. Kyle is, she will do it to everyone. She is here to do. Kyle Richards, okay? Not even Zoe is immune. Rachel Zoe is dating a life coach who sells online courses. Is that true? It's more like a center body reshuffler guy.

Huh? What the fuck? This was actually like when you, when you rescue like really like people who have been like kidnapped and held hostage in some basement for eight years. You're talking about lazy. Yeah. Or just like you need some, we need information from you. Like what did he look like? And they're too traumatized to talk. You're like, we need you.

What? Rachel, what does he do? You know? And she's like, I, that's what it felt like watching this. Yeah, a question. You know, we've wondered why can't men be good, more gooder? Why can't women pick good men? It's just Rachel. So what are you doing dating a fucking life coach. She's a, she has a particular type of personality, though, because it's not just her picking a guy. It's also a guy picking her. So she has a particular guy that would be attracted to Rachel's persona. Rachel's, though, you can't be intimidated by her success. Right. And also, you know, all the things that come along with Rachel's up. Yeah, you're a Mark, Rachel. Just be leery of men. All right. So with a husband in jail and a 25 million. Oh, I was going to do the intro.

Do Andy's intro to Erica Jane's. You had it written out? Well, kind of. Okay. This was quite the intro for Erica Jane, baby. A woman who's married a guy who she had to pretend was someone else anytime she had sex with him. A woman who is being sued into the ground, which is why she'll be leasing everything for the rest of her life, including ice. Erica Jane, welcome to the program.

Wow, Andy. That was a hell of an intro, baby. Oh, baby. Most of it's true. It was pretty brutal. Now, she feels safe with John McAvey, aka Shrek. Ruby, do you know this guy? Not personally.

No, I don't, Dylan. Okay. I want to do a quick thing where we, I want to show everybody a little insight into who John McAvey is. Now, scary guy. Yeah? Yeah. Let's play this really quickly.

This is him on Joe Rogan talking about. about a self-defense weapon that he himself designed called the puncher knife. Okay? There's another thing I got you, punchers, punch daggers. Oh, okay, so this doesn't even go through a metal detector. That's right. There's no metal in the sheath. It's all plastic screws.

Cleans up easy. No DNA. You can clean it in diesel fuel. It'll wash all the DNA off. Diesel fuel. You know you watching anything. Alcohol, yeah. Diesel fuel is the move?

Just go to the gas station. Yeah. Yeah. You could do fucking. can dish soap, but you can't permeate the plastic. It'll come clean. And I sharpen them normally with like 400 grit sandpaper. Did you really? I just re-sharpened him as handpaper.

The reason I made it is I always wanted something where, like, I was always wearing my body armor, right? And I wanted to just put the punch dagger right in the center. That way if something happened, I could get it. Right. And just start fucking punching. I mean, the whole problem with knives is you've got to learn how to use a knife. But with a punch dagger, if you could throw a punch,

right. You could bury that thing in someone's neck. You know what I mean? Okay, so he's an intense guy, and he was baptized in blood and sand. No one I would feel safer with on the planet. Also, no one I would want to be in a relationship less on the planet with. I'm not saying that Erica is in danger of repeating the awful thing that happened to her,

but he's this, he's, I don't know, he's a little, eerie. I've never felt safer, baby. It's like try an accountant or something maybe. I don't know. I already tried that route, baby. He ripped me off. It's our father suffers from the same, let's call it preparedness. But you're not in the gunfight in heat though, right? Like we're just at the grocery store. I was going to say he's in one of those Ciano Reeves movies. Yeah. Now, it's good to be prepared for this all the time, but our father just sleeps with way too many weapons around his bed.

Where does he? Like, I genuinely thought he was going to say, I wanted to always be prepared on a plane because I, and I was going to say, you know what? Okay, he's a military guy fine. But then he just kind of spoke generally about his body armor. And, and my head went exactly to the same place. But you're not wearing any now. So what's the point of the punch dagger? Like, what is he trying to sell it? It's, it's an interesting. interesting choice for Eric. And I'd argue it could do more harm than good while he can wield that as a private citizen, I guess, to protect himself. It may be more dangerous if it gets in the wrong hands, i.e. a terrorist on the next international flight. My only thing is the glee with the DNA wiping and the not detectable by metal detectors. You can fucking kill your wife in her entire fucking asshole family. And I think he can, I don't know, I think you can get away with it. Yeah, I clean it off with diesel. All right. So, that's Shrek, but Erica was physically abused in the past. The whole thing is so just unbelievably sad. And this moment where her mom were talking about her mom, oh my gosh, it was so sweet when she just said, I'm sorry that happened to you and texted her. Oh, my gosh. Just, yeah, I don't know what we can say about this. That's about it. Yeah. Then we get to Mr. Girardi. I just. just want to bring back lobotomies, right? Like if you just beat, if you beat the shit out of a woman, right? Let's just, um, let's rewire that. All right. So we spend way too much time on her and Tom.

Uh, he's shitting himself in prison. Um, but he was, um, um, is this where she says he was financially abusive to her? That's right. Okay. Erica. Mikey always got paid. He was, he was financially abusive. to everyone else. You, you got paid. Right, Ruby? This is like girls that go after married men who then leave their wives and children

for these women. And then in eight years, they do it again. And these women are upset. So you know what you signed up for, right? You were a cocktail waitress and he was coming in to stare at your tits. And he said, I have a lot of money. You will suck my dick.

Let's get married. And I'm not going to talk to you for six weeks. at a time and you're going to be fucking fine with it. And honestly, honestly, Erica, probably yearn for those six weeks of silence. Thank you, Tom. Oh, yes. Thank you. Please go away. Yes. Yeah. I understand the emotionally abusive element to it. He probably was emotionally abusive to her. But he looked like a turtle minus the shell. He was probably he was a fucking asshole. We know he defrauded lots of victims and lots of families. But Erica, financially abusive, I don't know if we're really ready to walk out on that plank with you, right? We'll just push you off that one.

Now, let's, yeah, let's cut that out of the show. Now, him pretending not to like your music or care about a book, absolutely. But on the other side of that coin, you could really admit that you were pretending to like anything about him, right? Well, we get to Doreet asking sarcastically if Eric, if Erica was going through stuff because Doreet was getting divorced from shoestring, right? So, Doreet was too wrapped up in that to know that Erica was being sued into the fucking ground.

But I was going through things, Andy. We know! It's a fascinating insight into her and Erica's relationship when Andy asks, do you guys ever talk about it? And Erica Jane says, never brought it up, baby.

Okay, that's just not a real relationship, though, right? That's why Rhode Island is so amazing. There's no way that this is not discussed ever on that show. Also, immediately, immediately. Alicia's like, why the fuck did you just say that? That was horrible. And you're like, whoa.

And then they just say, because I, she's like, because I think you are a bitch. Why wouldn't I say? You know, that's what we need. Also, Doree just, it comes out of her mouth and she doesn't get that it's crazy, that she's like, Auntie, if I'm not having the conversation about it, I just, I'm not, it's not on my mind. What? Uh-oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I think we've got a crazy person here. Now, we did gloss over one important question that Andy asked. Yes. Okay. Andy asked Erica Janie said, if you could, if you could, what would you ask Mr. Girardi? And she said, I'd ask him why, baby. Why'd you do this to me, you old bastard?

You screwed me. You screwed me real good. I'm renting ice, you son of a bitch. How do you rent ice? I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, it's really wild. It's really bad. All right.

So, Doreets got crazy eyes tonight. Also, I don't know, catty-patti, can we bring you out really quickly to talk about? I think that Doreets was, I think Doreet's outfit was the worst outfit. We've got, what, what are we doing, Athena, with the snake thing on the arm and wasn't a big fan of the dress? Ooh. If Caddy Patty's not here, we don't... Caddy's not here. Okay, that's fine. That's fine.

Hmm. Caddy Dill here. I thought it was fucking disgusting. That's disgusting. Okay. Oh, geez. All right. So we get to Kyle saying DeReed sucks and that she's too focused on the divorce to care

about anybody else. Obviously, the son and G.I. John are going to get along great. Cop meet one of the most ruthless operators in modern American military history. so yeah, that'll go off well. Derreet has an issue with Kyle, painting her out to be erratic. But there's this moment where Erica goes, Derreet, did I give you that Chanel bag? And Durit spins around during the break, yeah.

Yeah, Durit spins around during the break and goes, sure did, honey. What? Genuinely, Ruby, what is going on? Dylan, no, I still have to go on Reddit and look because it seemed as though she gave her a makeup bag. And Durit said, yeah, you did. And then Erica kind of jokingly when she,

Doreet was like, that's how much you meant to me. Mm-hmm. What? I gave it to you, you fucking weird, narcissistic, crazy fucking person. Yeah. She needs to, she needs to move to Vermont. She does. We need to start an area of Vermont where they go, where they just go temporarily or permanently.

That may be Canada, go tap some syrup. just ground. Kyle told Derreet to stop saying things about PK and we get into the mud with these two again. Kyle telling everyone that she's erratic and Dorita's 100% on the money with Kyle's tactics which is why she has the opportunity here

to go around to every single person and say, did you mention what Kyle naturally brought up to you forcibly and not naturally? And unfortunately she gets cut up. off because we just don't have the time to do this. But it's important to say while Doreet is a crazy person, she's not so nuts that she can't see very clearly what Kyle has done to her this season.

We get to Doreet spending. Well, I don't know how this brings up, but it was a cold, hard line, how it gets chimed. Rumi, do you remember how this was brought up because they're fighting over the $4,000 in the shop? Was it Kyle that point out, like, I'm bringing up because you. you, I don't have money problems like you, Doreet, or something like that. Go ahead. Yes.

Doreet was talking, was responding to her. And she was like, I, by the way, I can spend $4,000 and I'm very like lucky to do so. And to hear this type of complaint from especially you of all people. And I think that she was saying like someone else going through a divorce. But for some reason, Kyle just took out a fucking nuke and was like, okay, first of all, I'm not in the same financial situation as you. So I was like, what? Oh. Well, then Erica Jane, baby, who's had her own finance, still having her own financial. She's renting ice. She goes, like your house getting foreclosed on, baby.

Well, Erica comes in because Doreet is like a gassed at this, deservedly so. It's an absolutely ruthless thing. That's a slice and dice. But just like you not failing for the gas lighting that Kyle has subjected you to, we're not falling for the other side of the coin, right? Doreet, your house is being foreclosed on, okay? Kyle's not, Kyle's buying another house, though. That's the difference. Well, Doree does have a line here, which I was wondering how Kyle would react. She's like, I hope your relationship with Moe never goes sideways because you might be in the same position as me.

And I was like, even if it does, Moe and Kyle will never try and pay their mortgage with monopoly money. Call back to Dillon's call here. because they would be more responsible. PK's a con man and Doreet, you're clearly fucking checked out. Right. And so Erica has this moment where, again, she has a couple of moments

where she tries to extend some very genuine compassion to Doreet. And she goes, babe, we just want you to act in your own self-interest. And Doreet again spins around crazy eyes killer. I know what to do, Erica. Obviously not because you're, Cards are getting declined, and it wasn't a security fail. It was your card getting declined.

So we get to Amanda ridiculing Doreet for outsourcing her financial well-being, and they try to pin her down. And Amanda continues to just neo-backbend all of these bullets. Now, we'll get to a portion where Amanda, you literally can't get your way out of this bag. You're emasculating your husband, and he's either going to divorce you or kill you. in the future, so maybe calm down. But here she wins. Can I say this about Amanda? There are certain people that you just keep zinging. She's only shown weakness a couple times this season where she's in.

It's some of her worst moments where she's like Sutton call her like a wimp. And she's like, don't call me that in my own house. It's like you're hurt by that. You have a book that's literally called I fucking make money like a curse word on the book cover. Like this is what you're sensitive about. Like, but otherwise when women. and go after her, she just kind of sits there and it just like bounces around her. Like, well, it's, she has the benefit of arguing for a position that is proven correct,

literally in real time on this stage. Erica Jane is renting ice and Doreet is foreclosed on. And Dorete tries to do this thing where when she met PK, they, it was a rags to Rich's story. I don't know enough about it, but I feel it was. always rags. I'm not buying it, Rubes. Is the marrying for money accusation real with Doreep? No, I think that he actually was like declare. What I believe is he was declaring bankruptcy or had declared bankruptcy or something. But like also I think that it like probably in like one of his many shell companies or something. I don't know. I think she probably saw that and was like, oh, that's actually attractive because he's in Monte Carlo right now. And clear, I don't think that it's a real bankruptcy when criminals declare bankruptcy. I don't know. I think it's like a got to do this for the government because I'm crypto selling, what was he doing, selling real estate in crypto for two seasons or something. He's doing that still.

Right, right, right. Okay. Keep in mind, though. They got together. I think if you do the, what is it, 2008 or something, that's when he's filing bankruptcy because the real estate market took a shit. That's her like, then we met and we started building. Yeah, right. Look at the timeline.

He's getting sued into the ground as early as 2012 by business partners. then all the tax bullshit starts in 2015. These two never had a firm ground financially. But it's so weird though then, one, to make that accusation of Doreet and two, that Doreet ever consented to being in a relationship with shoestring because he's so fat and pink face that he would need to have money to bed someone as beautiful as Doreet, especially 2008 Doreet. What is going on?

Doreet used to look like a. normal person. Doretas had a lot of very good work done. Okay. Got it. Yeah. There was a time at which she was just like a very, very same with Erica. Like she was just a normal looking attractive housewife. Now she looks like someone who's had unbelievable work done. Unbelievable work. All right. Let's get to Amanda's making money and her loser husband being a fucking loser. I have a viewer question for Amanda. Okay. First question. I think this is from. Viewer question? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. This is from Jenny from Ohio. Kyle. Why do you make your husband look like a gigantic pussy? Yeah, it's a great question. And the women are trying to tell Amanda that regardless of your situation, it's a rule of the universe. And it's beyond

don't amasculate men, which is like coming from a man, it is a perilous position to put your marriage in, a constant emasculation, because men, there's a natural societal pressure to provide. And you have to be a very, very rare bird to not be, to not snap after decades or years of your wife criticizing you for this. But let's just do this. Regardless of gender, regardless of societal norms, you're married to this person.

Why are you constantly talking about him being a fucking loser and not making, what, like why are we doing that period? Now, her answer is, I thought I was, it's, hearing her perspective,

Ruby, you probably caught this. She came on with the perspective of the show was about glitz and glam and women being very powerful. That's what her reasoning. So it wasn't about relationships with other women and friends. It's about me blowing this place up

about how much of a fucking boss bitch I am. Yeah, has nothing to do with the way that you treat your husband. No, right. So there was a little bit about that. So I can understand whether or not she's lying or not, the premise of I'm going to show, that I am actually the leader in my house, and I am almost like taking like a 50s type of role

where a guy would come in and go, I'm madmen. I'm the fucking ruler of the house. I'm a boss bitch to essentially aspire other women to take control of their money, the house, everything, never rely on a dude. Now I am her defense attorney. Now Pat will stand down and be regular Pat.

Ruby. Yeah, Rubbs. Go ahead. Okay, I think there's a, there is a happy medium here. I think she does have a, like, we always just assume if people are in these situations that men have paid for it because they're the ones that are making more money. She's her entire persona and business is that I'm fucking rich and I did

it myself and I'm a woman and you can do it too. Sure, fine. That being said, Rachel Zoe had a really good moment at one point. I can't remember at what what comment it was in response to. But she said like, what is that add to the conversation? And that's kind of how I feel about all the comments she makes about her husband. Like what, one, I don't know what the point of it is. Because if you're not trying to actually make at this point your fiance feel like he is a fucking piece of shit, which I don't think you should be doing. What are you adding to this? Why do you want us to know that?

We know you make money. We've read the book. We've seen it. I thought Erica made a good point, too, because we don't talk about this in relationships enough planting the seeds concept, which is your partner, you degrade them. They don't say anything. But they're little hurtful things that you said. and maybe you like put, pour a little water on them a few more times that year,

you don't understand that you've hurt your partner and now that thing is kind of growing. The resentment's growing, right? Because you've made, you've planted the seeds of like, like confusion in their head or low self-esteem. They are maybe not on their way just steamrolling towards a divorce, but they're not that he, he, well, that's what, that's when she'll learn what it's like to be the, the breadwinner. Yeah. Have fun when he takes half. half of your money because he could be very well just laying and wait for that. I'm not sure.

Anyways, we get to Andy basically saying everyone hated you for everything. And this is her response. Like I thought we were on a show where we're boasting about everything. And she's right. Every room that she walks into, people know who she is, is a thing the women accused her of saying. she didn't really say that. And this, we go back to this grape smashing moment where the Bose and Rachel Zoe are just, it's just kind of like a, it's not quite, um, Amber heard on the stand levels of embarrassment, but it's like we're getting there,

especially with Bose. Are you referring to life coaching business? Mm-hmm. Okay, before we get there, I do want to touch on. Erica mentions that Amanda actually would pull cameramen aside and have them film her bags and whatnot. I thought that was kind of a call out. Unnecessary.

I bet more than Amanda as a housewife have done that before. And then, yeah, this is when, oh, this is. Amanda, I skipped over Kyle being an ambassador to new women, which was a variable moment moment from her. but then we get to Amanda saying that Bose was a business failure, evidently. Yes, evidently. And Bose denies saying that she admitted this to Amanda. And Amanda says, yes, you did in that field when we went wine tasting. Boz says, I never said that.

And she absolutely did. She said it with pride in a weird flexing moment where she goes, I lose money on my courses because that's what I choose to do. Now, Bose, your courses may have much more validity and practicality to them. Okay. It's incredible that you taught at Harvard for three semesters, not a long stretch, but you're, you're, let's not shut up. You're in, you're in, you're in, what, what's the town called? What's that town? Cambridge. Is that where it is? Yeah. That's awesome. That's really impressive. Amanda's not doing that. She's defrauding people. But you did say that you take a loss and you're not making money off of your courses the way that Amanda is doing. So again, I'm talking too

much. Yeah. Yeah, just own it. Again, uh, yeah, it's okay to admit. Sometimes you just don't want to admit a loss, but it's, that makes you more human to other people. I think Bose just can't stand Amanda and she's slipping up because she's so frustrated with this girl, which I completely understand. Ruby, final thoughts on the reunion or any of the things that have been rambled out the last couple of minutes? I thought that Amanda did a really, really good job. I really did. She kind of made me, she's ending this entire season for me on a much higher note than I really ever thought possible. I dislike Kyle and Doreet fighting. I'm over it to the point that I can't. I do not look forward to two more episodes of that.

And what I think could save this show would be bringing, and I'm not saying this sarcastically, bring Roger's girlfriend on as a character. And let's play. Let's play. Abel bike you love to get in the comments. Let us know what you thought about the episode. Check me out of Family Dutton. We'll be on Family Dutton next week.

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Thanks, Rubbs. Enjoy your evening. You guys have the best time. Good luck with the Valley. Not sure how you'll do it, but make sure to mention that it's unfair that Luke can't fish, okay? Okay, we will.