Another Below Deck Podcast - Crew Interview: We Talked to Wes

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

We sat down with Wes who zoomed in from parts very much known to talk to us about his relationship with Rayna and why it's not good, how he got cast on the show, whether or not there was an "internal investigation" and how the entire N-word debacle was handled.  LOVE IS BLIND SEASON TWO is LIVE at Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetwork Check out GreenChef at GreenChef.com/belowdeck130 to get $130 off.  

Whoa now, the season's over, but that doesn't mean we don't have super spicy episodes for our beloved Barnacles. Guys, this was an awesome interview. We took a half hour, 40 minutes to chat with Wes about all things Below Deck. jess reina the internal investigation um how he's doing with uh reina a lot of that stuff a lot of fun juicy juicy shit we get into before we jump into the this incredible interview remember guys love is blind is here love is blind season two hath launched on Netflix. Our episode one recap is live now at patreon.com slash another podcast network. I mean, it's just the greatest show ever. Yes, it is better than Below Deck.

So anyways, this is Long-Winded. Enjoy this interview we will see you guys very very soon for below deck sailing and new news kermit is back she will be uh manning or womaning the newest season of below deck down under which will be behind a motherfucking paywall so you can get that at patreon.com slash another podcast network we'll see you on the other side love you much happy wednesday welcome aboard another very special charter crew interview. We watched that Jay Leno clip and I'm just like, I guess I'm like very

I just feel like it was too over the top. No, it was perfect. You think so? All right. Well, joining us from Parts Unknown. He's in the Caribbean. Joining us from Parts Known

is Below Deck regs season nine superstar Wes how are you sir oh superstar man Jesus thank you thank you I'm doing well no I was being sarcastic about that Wes you had a you had a subdued you had a very subdued role in the season. Were you kind of, how do you feel about the edit? Do you think that you got portrayed in a negative light? Do you think that's pretty much what happened? You're a little bit of a, what do they call it? A wall burger?

A wallflower. A wallflower. It's not a wall burger. A wallflower. What? Wall burger sounds so much better. I like that one're delicious go with that hey don't answer that west don't let dylan give me any shit i was just gonna say i was just gonna say how pissed is pat uh dylan starting with that vague open-ended question when dylan or when pat has to start off all our

interviews with either charter guests shut up ourter crew with this very important one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's start from the beginning here. Dylan, sit back. I told you I was too hot. I was too hot. I was too over the top. Wes, how did you get cast on the show?

Oh, Pat's pissed. How'd you get on the show? They found me after Hurricane Irma and Maria. So this is like back in 2017, about 2018, the first of the year. And they came to me about it being a yacht job. And I'm like, okay, cool. I get those all the time, either for like deliveries or, you know, fill in for a week. And they ended up telling me it was for Below Deck.

So it's been like a kind of like a three year thing. This is right before Are you talking about FEMA found you? Are you talking about who found you? Yeah, they did. I mean, FEMA couldn't find shit. FEMA has a very robust casting department. So this is interesting because if you listen to

Raina's podcast with a family member, she basically said. They talk below the deck. They talk below the deck. Yeah. That essentially it was apparent to her that the producers and casting people from Below Deck were making an active effort to get some color on the show on Below Deck. You're long overdue. Right.

Because you weren't actually a yachty technically were you would you be considered a yachty at that point wes you were okay head nods are bad and i've never been a yacht i wouldn't even consider myself the yachty right you you your business is you have your own boat i i do now so this is a new thing um i got it all figured out. But then COVID happened. So I just was like, all right, whatever. I'm gonna keep working on the boat. And when this stuff stops, I'll go back to it. But no, no, I was doing other things. So I started off captaining down here in the VI. And after the hurricanes, I went up to Newport, Rhode Island and captain 72 foot schooner called Madeline. And I'll just up there for three summers, just stacking cash and

doing the whole dog and pony show. Wow. And that's when they found they reached out to you. Yeah, throughout those three years, I was up in Newport doing stuff. So Dylan actually started off the show by saying you were kind of a wallflower. I would argue, if you're not going to like try and create be on television, you know, just do your job and have some fun on a reality TV show. Sure. You don't want to leave the show with a bunch of people hating you or people do Google searches five years from now for employment. And then it comes up, you said something inappropriate on a reality show.

I guess my very insulting point to start this episode off with was that Wes's main storyline was hanging with Jess trying to get with Jess and then we move on for seven episodes and then in the reunion Lee says he was the best employee out of everybody so we're just like what the fuck's going on what happened to Wes? A fucking curveball you didn't

I was surprised that one too really what was your relationship with the fake Captain Lee? Yeah we hate Lee oh I wouldn't say hey man no no doc dad yeah i mean doc dad yacht dad um no lee lee was really cool i mean he's a old dude that has like these really cool one-liners that the cameras really didn't show we'd be like on deck setting up that stupid fucking slide and he'd be like oh what do you think about this? Doing his one of like dragging a nun through cactus with his dick out or something like that. And he would just walk away.

No smiles, nothing. Just walk the fuck away. And I'm like, I'm laughing to myself. And I guess we got along. And it's one of those things. I didn't expect it since I did fumble a lot, like a lot, a lot, a lot. And it was just learning a new boat. Every boat's different.

Doesn't matter how long you've been captain. Yeah. So I guess when you're on a sailing boat, you know what's going on, but you've never really been tasked with trying to untangle a giant slide while on a jet ski. Get fucked with that one. I hate that shit. I know. untangle a giant slide while on a jet ski. Get fucked with that one. I hate that shit. Look, I gotta admit like having Eddie

yelling at you, Captain yelling at you, and then you trying to pull up like a hundred foot line out of the water. With cameras. Keep the jet ski in position. With cameras, like, it's a snowball effect. Yeah. Shit's gonna go wrong i agree i when i was watching i'm like we could use a little more positive reinforcement here as opposed to two idiots yelling off the bottom about fucking you're ruining this you idiot and then you

got floridian wealth trash hanging out on top of the boat looking at the entire thing go down and i mean captain lee this was no mistake by him We heard him say many times at the bridge how he wanted his employees walking on eggshells and being very tense at all times. Great leadership. He has the plane tickets in the envelopes already, ready to hand them out. So that was interesting that you said that you did fuck up a lot, because I often think, like, the season goes along, there's a couple screw-ups, but any screw-up is going to be the ones they show on TV.

So I thought possibly you were killing it, but you're like, no, I made a lot of mistakes. There was a lot of shit I did wrong. But were there stuff that wasn't shown, mess-ups that you think you did? Bad wording. Yeah, there was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, there's always mess ups. There is there is one that we had one of those sea bobs go go dead or at least was not dead.

The person that was using it in the water just didn't get it to turn on. So I ran out there on the ski to see what was going on, playing Baywatch. Right. And she's like, oh, it sounds like, oh, cool. It is a snorkeling thing. So I'm used to people getting in the water all the time here in the Virgin Islands. It's what we do. That's what I do on my boat. And she wasn't distressed. She wasn't doing anything.

She has her snorkel mask on. And I was like, all right, cool. I'm gonna go get you another one. We're not far from the boat. And I ran and get that. And the whole boat's going fucking crazy. Like, what's going on? I'm like, oh, yo, yo, yo. She's fine. Look, I just pointed her at a turtle that doesn't exist and hopefully she finds about which she did pull that one out of my ass but uh came back with a c-bomb and she was she was fine and um it just you know i guess they're not they're not used to it i'm used to dropping

40 something people in the water at a time and me being lifeguard for each and every person. Right, right, right. I've seen some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I do. Your pulse isn't sporadic and fucking crazy. Was the show the first... No, no.

Wes, was the show the first time you were working on a boat of this size? I've been working on boats around that. I have a lot of friends in the yachting industry, but mostly it's in the sailing yacht industry. So you have like the previous season sailing, I mean, schooner arrows, which was like their chase boat.

So you'll see that there's always a separate, really nice yacht right next to below decks, whatever their yacht here they're using. And it was good friends of mine that were on that one being there provisioning people the ones that they call to make all of our goods for night setups and everything come to the boat so i i was very familiar with that yacht and multiple others schooner columbia but all of these are big sailboats they're like 140 some foot classic sailing yachts um so it's not my first time working on them but it's my first time working as a prolonged crew i would come in help out with stuff every now and then like you know

it's the relationship you have especially being in the caribbean where they go from newport or the new england area to the caribbean every year um wes if you don't mind we got a bunch of uh audience questions for you um and what is there a safe word for them if you don't mind, we've got a bunch of audience questions for you. Is there a safe word for them if you can't answer the question? Port. Port. Port. Port. Yeah.

It comes from a very – do you know how embedded in the world – do you know Ross or Ashton? I do not. Do you know Ashton, the guy that looks like a tan butt plug who has 13 eggs a day and hates women? For more clarity, the guy who almost got his leg fucking ripped off a few seasons ago that guy but

not really I saw that yeah that was super intense Ross and Ash were our first ever guests from the show they got hammered it was cool it was super cool yeah but the safe word was port and will henceforth be that so if you need to yell it,

please do. Okay. So let's go to our first question here. Elena Whitney Callis asks, do you regret not making a move on Jess? No, I don't regret not making a move. I mean,

I'm awkward as hell and that's obvious. But it was just one of those things that, you know, I want to make sure she was thinking the same thing you know you don't want to come out looking like one of those you know assholes that just pushed themselves on somebody yeah basically like every other deck hand that's ever been on this show right right both of you both of you came out of this experience uh looking great by the way i mean just mixed it up a little bit with Heather, I guess. Well, Jess didn't really come out

looking great. She was kind of like an atrophied burrito addict who sells weed. Here's our next question. Because we mentioned his relationship with Jess, I want to play a quick game that I just invented and it's called Your Last

Coworker. And I'm just going to give you two coworkers and you say which one you'd rather work with and then we're going to move on until we get through the cast. Kaylee or Jess? Let's go. Oh, I'd rather work with Kaylee. Kaylee or Eddie? Eddie.

Wow. Eddie, do you want to... It's not because you want to fuck Eddie. Right. Have you seen his hair? That's beautiful. No, no, no. He's a cool enough dude, and he works in the commercial industry, especially with Tuggy.

All right. We'll get back to Eddie in a bit. Eddie or Heather? Eddie still. Eddie or Rachel? Rachel. Rachel or Raina? uh eddie still eddie or rachel rachel rachel or reina rachel rachel rachel or lee rachel of course wins this game i should have done her last is this a yeah yeah you should have done it's a weird version of mary fuck or kill it sounded

like to me no no no it's uh it's uh last co-worker yeah it's last co-worker left it's a weird version of marry, fuck, or kill it sounded like to me. No, no, no. It's last co-worker left. Yeah, it's last co-worker left. It's a famous game. Hey, Pat, just really quickly, I do want to break the fourth wall here. Your friend Glenn has been sitting on this couch for about five minutes, and you haven't acknowledged him really at all. No, he's just sitting here wasting his time. I told him to be quiet.

What's happening with Glenn? Glenn, give us 10 minutes. Or you can sit here if you want. Oh, okay. Sorry, I thought he needed something from you. No, no, no. We're going to go and catch drinks after this interview. Okay, got it.

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I stay in touch with Jess, Rachel, Eddie, even Captain Lee. I try to stay really, you know, talk and see what everything's going on. Except for Raina. Kick rocks. Okay, cool. So we may be getting into port territory. Do we want to talk about Raina?

We can surface level it. Just say port whenever you want. I mean, don't encourage the man to say port. So we already told him it's available as use. Now let's grill this motherfucker so that's a good point before we get to rain i have a more important question so at the end of the reunion and it moved really quickly and it seemed like it was kind of just brushed away um i've worked in the corporate you know uh i guess the corporate climate where

if someone used the n-word it would go to human research there's basically uh an infrastructure there's a There's basically an infrastructure. There's a pipeline. There's an infrastructure to deal with things that happen like that in a work environment. Of course, we always call it maritime law. Particularly on this show, it seems like there is no such thing as a human resource department on these boats. Yeah, maritime law is really funky because you can't take Benadryl, but you can say the N-word in front of a person of color who you're working with

and nothing really happens. It's a bizarre set of rules. Bizarre world. Really weird, weird set of rules. So Wes, sorry for the long question, but Lee, at the very end, the last three minutes, he basically just says, hey, Lee, what did you do about this? And he just says, there was an internal investigation and that was it. Was there an internal investigation and that will be, and that was it. Was there an internal investigation and

what was that? I mean, honestly, I was, all of this unfolded for everybody. Like it was happening every single day. I mean, there was days that went by where it wasn't addressed. And when it got to the point, I mean, it was, was um it was something that should have been addressed earlier and i don't think captain lee was aware of it in the official sense but he may have heard something or i don't know it's it's not like i'm the first this is my first time doing this like i'm sure eddie rachel lee has more knowledge than i do about you know hot things that they're thinking about in advance but um internal investigation wow all right uh cool anyway that's a cool direct we're done now yeah that was a direct quote from that idiot um so you're okay if i'm catching what

you're saying so did production actually come to you and address it and ask you how you felt about it? Did production or anybody outside people? No. God. So he lied. No, well, uh, no one came to me to even,

even after everything is really asked me how I felt about the whole situation, but in one-on-ones with, um, other crew members yeah of course we talk about it you know I will say context is everything you guys saw how the difference between a malicious word towards you know two different people sure it matters it matters it really matters do I think what Heather did was right it No, fuck no. It's really dumb for doing this. Super dumb for doing this on TV.

And she kind of did show her colors. I mean, Raina's right. I mean, she's way too damn comfortable. Yeah. But what Raina said to me was, you know, a lot more directed and hurtful. Yeah. There is a difference, and context is a big one there was a

purpose for for what reina said heather was drunk and so blonde well reina would argue that she was drunk as well wes did reina sure ever but hang on a second she said it to him again the next morning and what really fucking pissed me off about this entire reunion was you said that you wanted to handle the entire colorism thing off air which is fine that's your prerogative they might not have pushed uh because that was what you wanted but to not hold reina accountable in any way shape or form on that reunion which consisted primarily of her uh flaming people for what they did now a lot of it was deserved we had no idea what eddie said we had no idea that eddie had thrown it back in her face i didn't either with the f word which is disgusting but they didn't talk about what she

said to you at all we all have fire opinions about this but wes is ready to give us sound bites do you have you heard of reina talk about french cigarettes oh that's wow great great just good all right uh no i haven't uh like i when that happened on the reunion we had no i had no idea that even took place like she's the one that brought it up too and I'm like, yo, what's going on? And if you look at her face, we're all like, yo, what's going on? None of us had any idea.

Production, Eddie and Raina, they're the only ones that really knew what was going on. Everybody else was in the dark on this. Wow. Interesting. Good pun. I will say something uh even even with heather when she slipped up reina didn't make it make it clear about when we had a discussion about what she went through in that elevator yeah like she never made that

clear to anybody else but me so they don't understand where she was coming from yeah i can't even imagine how hurtful that was to her yeah well you know it there's a lot of levels to it and a lot of people that have comments or thoughts on it on social media like rain is a bitch or us or whatever well my thought is it's a more nuanced thing which is i actually blame lee and eddie for not addressing this earlier we could have squashed it you know reina felt like it wasn't be addressed and then it became an everyday thing it built up and and how she handled it on that last night out was she was an ignorant asshole too and then what she did to west made it look even worse so yeah there's just so many levels to this it's not as easy as just to say this person's a racist or what happened.

Sure. Now, maybe we're jaded and just too part of Los Angeles to see what happened through this lens. But were you surprised, especially after the Eddie clip drops in the reunion, that this hasn't been more of a thing? Like, wouldn't heads be rolling i mean this was a colossal mistake about a cultural issue that's pretty important to everyone on social media you know i and it's on bravo so i would imagine that this thing would be um more punitive for the people involved but it hasn't really been that big of a deal. Yeah.

I can't speak that much about TV stuff, be it that I live on a boat and barely have any kind of service. But what I can say about the yachting world and what I have a lot of respect for is we still act just like military. You have chain of command and that kind of stuff. What is known is we don't have a lot of respect for is we still act just like military. You have chain of command and that kind of stuff. What is known is we don't have a lot of diversity.

All right. That's, that's obvious. I looked at rain. I saw her for the first day. I was like, Oh my God, unicorn.

Finally, there's another, right. I got really excited. You know, that, that, that is the one thing that at Walmart,

I was really looking forward to exploring things through the show and as well after the show on how much potential good, but she kind of lost a little bit of credibility towards the end um when it comes down to the issues that should have been addressed um this is still a world that you have the high elites that own these boats you have the one two percent ten percent whatever right and it's still one of the jobs that you still provide a headshot you know with your resume if that makes sense to you guys yeah totally yeah totally so so age stuff sex stuff wow sexual preferences, and ethnicity, they do play a part, even though it's not spoken about.

It's like somebody's going to make a decision off what they see. It's just the reality of it. And it's really good to work your way. And this is what I've done, especially up in Newport, connecting with America's Got So have America's got so fingers out Yeah, he's talking to the guys like cool. You know, you want to come home? I do right right do stuff like that. Yeah, right But networking and you know creating a good name for yourself

Yeah, Pat has another question, but I have something I need to clarify for myself You mentioned you thought Raina was an unicorn earlier. On dating apps, people who are kind of swinger people, and they'll join a couple, and they'll be the third in a couple, is often described as a unicorn. Is that what you were talking about? Oh, shit. You meant a black person in yachting, not someone who's... I mean, both works.

Just to make sure. Both works. True. It's ambiguous. She was in a throuple. She did beat Jake off across Frasier while watching Norbit. But in my opinion, in that situation, Frasier was the unicorn. Right.

Who actually turned out to be not a unicorn at all, but a horse. No, he wasn't. And he left. Yeah, he was a stubborn mule. How is Jake doing? I don't know if he put a statement out there, but he's going through some stuff. How's he doing?

You're in communication with him? Yeah, yeah. Jake's doing good. He's spending a lot of time with his family, and I'm not going to push too much with it because it is a personal thing for him and his story. But he's doing very well. I should have reached out to him earlier once we wrapped, but I have been talking to him. He's doing very well i should have reached out to him earlier once we wrapped

but i have been talking to him he's doing very well and i miss that weirdo that sounds fucking tragic as hell no no all right eliza harper says not a question just tell him we love him um okay thank you eliza what a kiss ass yeah you have a lot of fans, Wes. All right, so Jeremy Claybaugh, he wants to know, are you in touch or did you know any other cast members in the industry that have been on the show? Did you have a relationship? I know you have kind of a friendship with Gabby, who's going to be in the upcoming season of Yachting.

Who is just a horrible human being. Oh, you stop it. Horrible human being. Wes, don't listen to him. She canceled on us because she overslept. Oh, you stop it. Horrible human being. Wes, don't listen to him. She canceled on us because she overslept. No, she didn't. She ghosted us. There's a huge difference.

She's a friend of the show. She'll be on next week. Relax. It's like Osama bin Laden. Has not been voted on. Osama bin Laden. Been promised to Gabby, but not been voted on. All right, be quiet.

I have a question for Wes. Do you know anybody that's been on the show? She'll not be shushed. I'll not be shushed on you. Do you know anybody that's been on the show? She'll not be shushed. I'll not be shushed either. Do you know anybody that's been on the show? He's talking to pretty girls on the internet for the first time, and he's like, yeah, we'll have you back. Come on.

Wes, do you know anybody that's been on the show? Aside from Gabby, Adrian, I met up in Newport. Oh, my God. I met. Did he show us your show? Is that the guy, the chef? No, Adrian from season one. The female Adrian.

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. She has a podcast too. She hates KHS Dave. Oh, got it. Okay. The Gangplank Report.

Got it. Okay. I'm going to bleep it. Yeah, there we go. By the way, the area that he's talking about in Rhode Island, you want to talk about old money. People have no idea. It is insane.

I went there for a wedding. Oh my God. Wow. Yeah. money. People have no idea. It is insane. I went there for a wedding. Oh, my God. Wow. Yeah. Jesus. It's so much. Skull and bones type thing. Yes.

It's this original seat of power in the United States. Rhode Island. It's a crazy bridge that seems like it goes for eight miles out to this island. And then that's where all these old mansions. They're the people that are really pulling the strings behind our government ah yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yeah they're the ones that gave all those uh all those opiates to uh the people in west virginia go ahead oh he was go ahead west sorry no man those mansions are like what they did for yachts like there's that was their yacht back then.

Right. Now it's people that we work for. Now there's so much capital, they have to spend it on boats. Karen VF asks, how much do you dislike Andy Cohen? I actually have no opinion of Andy. He was just Andy. Yeah. Didn't say,

yeah. Like in between stuff, not really saying too much. Just being his normal self. Yeah. He doesn't seem like he was into that reunion. Yeah. The same list.

Nah, nah, none of us were. Same listener wants to know, did Raina ever actually reach out to you after the show to apologize it's too late apologize she reached out uh the i'm sorry never came through um which i mean i at this point you know again kick rocks um i was looking for the positive because i reached out to her after

we wrapped so we had like six months of like post and stuff like that to deal with so i reached out to her every now and then we were in uh la for our uh pickups which are basically you know little things that they miss they they have us come in and you know go behind that screen and interview again um still nothing nothing all i wanted to be like hey man i'm sorry you know what i said we was you know a little out of place i want you to know where i'm coming from you know that kind of stuff yeah yeah but the problem with where she is coming from is that she actually believes what she said to you so uh i don't know that a heartfelt apology is coming anytime she's young there's time for growth we've all grown she's sober now congratulations everybody keep off instagram no one gives a fuck wes if if you

were offered and uh as we we established you were competent and hard working which essentially translates to boring on tv so you probably won't be asked but if you were competent and hardworking, which essentially translates to boring on TV. So you probably won't be asked, but if you were asked, would you go on the show again? You know, um, I enjoy the Caribbean so much. I would love to be a part of it as like a backup,

you know, somebody gets fired or quit and you know, I'm, I'm close by like we were insane kids. That's a hundred miles. It's a, that's less than 24 hours of me sailing my boat there. Like, it's nothing.

I would like to do something like that. And with the other shows, I guess. I mean, like, sailing is the only one that honestly makes sense to me. Oh, man. Because the motor yacht, it's boring, man. It's so fucking boring. Like, all we do is pick things up, put things down, put shit out, bring shit in. Like,

right. Right. You saw, we, there's like three of us filling a jet ski. Like what the fuck? You could join a CrossFit gym if you wanted to do that. I've often noticed that noted the interior on some of those mega yachts are

maids on a boat. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to bash their position because they do so many things that I have no idea how to do, like holding a bed properly. Like they crush it with that kind of clientele. Well, the service, yeah. The service aspect of it is. The service aspect is you're just going to a five-star restaurant and a five-star hotel yeah sure well not not really on below deck but um well maybe with chef rage but but not with anybody else yeah you can't open up a can of corn and dump it on top

of chips and say that this is five stars it's not a star it's a college dorm or nick's house when grandma left and he's nine yeah um all right kirsten srominski says what's the name of your sailing company? I'm coming down to the Caribbean. I would love for Wes to take me and my friends out sailing.

Oh, hell yeah. All right. The boat's called Night Wind 2 and it's Night Wind 2 Charters. Very easy to locate me at Sapphire Marina on the east end

of the island. And my website will Marina on the East end of the Island. And my website will be up at the end of this week. Stuff with personal number and all that good stuff, working that out with new videos and stuff I've, I've recorded. But if you want to find me like Instagram sailing West and then Instagram night wind underscore the number two, check them out on social media.

Get down to the Caribbean and sail with this man. He's a wall burger, but he is a good, decent human who will give you a great trip in the Caribbean. He did something that's not that common, which is he was on a reality TV show for 16 episodes and he got out of there squeaky clean. Everybody likes him and he's squeaky clean. Career tips.

Start showing those washboard abs more on the, on the old Instagram. Get those abs out. Wes, what are you doing, man? Jesus. I felt like eye candy.

Jesus Christ. It was like every shot they had until like the last little bit. So me and my shirt off. I'm like, ah, no. Embrace it. You're a fine piece of ass.

Um, all right. So subscribe so subscribe uh go follow him on social media we'll be back uh next week with the beginning of sailing yacht a show that west should be on uh with the serial murderer captain glenn uh love is blind is out check us check us out there that's not a sentence that is properly formed but go to patreon.com slash another podcast network to hear us break down season 2 of the greatest show that we've ever recapped love is blind Wes thank you for joining us man

hope to talk to you soon cheers guys thank y'all Thank you.