Another Below Deck Podcast - Did Chef Ryan Starve the Crew? — Interview with Benny Crawley | Below Deck Down Under
Episode Date: June 14, 2022Dylan, Nick and Pat speak with Below Deck Down Under season 1 deckhand Benny Crawley about having a misogynistic ex-cop as your boss, the transition from yoga retreat to charter yacht, and Chef Ryan a...ttempting to starve him.Our episode by episode coverage of Below Deck Down Under PLUS seasons 1 & 2 of Below Deck Sailing are available at Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetwork
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And also, like, you know, coming off of a beautiful meditative retreat and then meeting a mall cop with a serious, serious hatred for women.
I mean, it's got to be really, really taxing on your psyche.
Yeah. And to be fair to you. Hi, hello, and welcome aboard to this lovely podcast called Another Below Deck Sailing Yacht Podcast.
There's too many of these shows.
This is for the freebies, and I'm honestly, like, I'm at a point with our fans where I don't think they deserve this interview with Benny of Peacock's Dananda.
Right.
Because they're just so.
We'll talk about it on next week's episode.
But shame on anybody who's complaining about hilarious ads in our Patreon episode.
Shame on you.
But we have more important things to talk about.
I'm Dylan.
I'm saddled up next to unreal Nicholas Davis.
Ahoy mateys.
And Pat produces the podcast over there behind my glasses.
Permission to come aboard.
Now,
before we introduce Benny,
I did misspeak.
Yeah.
Uh,
because Nick is in Silver Lake right now because he got,
uh,
infected with,
I don't know how you can get infected with a psyop but he
somehow managed to do it yeah well i think he kind of deserved it after all the mocking he's been
doing for the last two and a half years nick how do you feel it's i feel great uh it's clearly the
government trying to sabotage me for trying to reveal the truth i'll be back in no time i couldn't
in good conscience come and sit next to you guys when Pat has a child, even
though my beliefs have not changed.
Okay, great.
Yeah.
That's astounding.
It is a pleasure to welcome a deckie from Peacock's Below Deck, Dan Anda, none other
than Benny.
Hi, Benny.
Thanks for joining us.
My pleasure. How are you doing, guys? Doing great. Thanks for joining us. My pleasure.
How are you doing, guys? Doing great. Thanks for having me. Good. Nick's not doing good, but we're doing
great.
Yeah, Benny, you know,
Benny's been a controversial figure, but I feel like
we've talked so much shit on Benny.
Benny, I don't know if you said
we talked off mic for the camera. You said you don't even
watch TV or listen to any podcasts. Have you been
watching the show?
No, I haven't heard anything so like i'm i'm like go go for it i've looked at a bit of twitter it was pretty rough at the beginning but i mean you know what are you
gonna do well you're coming you're coming out shining right now let's see the the benefit that
you had is there were evils that truly came to fruition towards the end of the season and you were not among them. But we'll get into that entire thing in due time.
We begin usually pretty much every guest interview with a really,
really good first question.
And Pat usually delivers that one.
So Pat,
why don't you hit him with the first cue?
Benny,
if you couldn't tell by the tone of my cohost,
Dylan,
he's mocking me right now because I ask what I think is an important question.
How'd you end up on the show?
Yeah.
I got a...
Okay, so I'd been in a yoga retreat for three months.
I came out of a meditation thing.
I had never done any of this before.
And then it was like 10 days after I got back,
I got a thing in my inbox on Facebook
saying,
would you consider being on Below Deck?
Because I'd been in yachting two years beforehand.
I laughed.
I think I physically laughed out loud because I was like,
it was so off par from what I thought this message was going to be.
But then the next day I got covered in this excitement
that I hadn't felt in a long time.
And I was like, look, let's just give it a crack.
And then one thing led to another.
And next thing you know, I'm walking down that dock with the cameras on me going, what am I about to do?
Yeah, so that sensation kind of leads me into what I wanted to ask you.
Do you regret it?
Do I regret it?
Yeah.
No. No.
Okay.
Not at all.
First, I want to say this is going to make me sound like I'm into Benny or I want to bed him.
Handsome guy.
Look at that guy.
Benny, where was this guy on the show?
You look like Brandon Lee, for Christ's sake.
Well, he was so scared in that anchor room that we thought he was like a little chicken.
But look at him.
I mean, he looks like Brandon Lee.
Nick has his hands raised.
Yeah, guys, I just want to echo your sentiments i've seen a number of interviews with benny uh like this shot we're seeing right here and goddamn again where was this on the show i
i'm sure it's picking up now but i mean look it it is what it is you know i i'm i know
i i was that was the state of mind i was at the time
and i come out i was just chilling at this yoga retreat and then suddenly i was on television and
you know amongst um yeah you know like just different personalities on board and and
i'm starting to shine now yeah yes exactly i'm not sure i'm just doing my thing you know you're
coming into your own I will say just
stay away from guns on set
going forward
that's a Brandon Lee and or Alec Baldwin joke
I think it's an Alec Baldwin joke
that actually happened when we were
there I think
but the channel of the Brandon Lee channel
is dangerous
I love Zoom
my favorite thing about Zoom shows is how everybody talks over one another
and they're so good.
So what goes on at that yoga retreat?
Do you guys all take breaks and don't speak and then like fuck each other?
Like what happens at those yoga retreats?
No, no.
I was trying to not do that.
Okay.
Yeah, that's why I went there.
Okay, good.
We were trying.
Benny, we have a ton of listener questions for you.
And, you know, forgive me for this one because it's probably a heavy question, but it comes from listener Haley Whittle.
She wanted to know if you being part of this show was part of the healing process after just a horrible year.
Was this part of like, I'll just go on this wild adventure and just take my mind off things?
Like, look, I was happy when I got on that boat, right?
Like I, when I first got on there, I was like, and then,
and then you met Jamie. Yeah.
And what you see on the camera is it was way more intense than that.
Like, I'm just like, like what is happening right now? But the camera, it was way more intense than that. I'm just like, like, what is happening right now?
But, you know, I came in pretty happy.
Obviously, in hindsight, looking back, you know,
I thought I was a lot more zen than, you know,
but you're getting filmed at those moments when you crack,
you know what I mean?
Sure.
Look, I was happy, you know.
I was a little numb, to be honest, like probably a little emotionally numb because of what had happened. But I was generally excited to get on there, you know, I was a little numb, to be honest,
like probably a little emotionally numb because of what had happened,
but I was generally excited to get on there, you know, it was beautiful and I was looking forward to that adventure.
It definitely was, I wasn't going in being like I need this to heal,
but I was like this will be great, you know what I mean?
Like this will be a good little kickstarter because it wasn't just that,
it was COVID, like everybody had gone through, you know,
a pretty rough time, so the whole thing was exciting yeah and well don't beat
yourself up for not keeping that uh zenness after the retreat i mean i think that's a story ages
as old as time just people going and when you're surrounded by people constantly reminding you
that's easy but if you get on the real world putting into practice is the lifelong journey yeah yeah thank you yogi thank you yogi thank you yogi and also like you
know coming off of a beautiful meditative retreat and then meeting a mall cop with a serious serious
hatred for women i mean it's got to be really really taxing on your psyche yeah and benny to
be fair to you be to be fair to you i know it
looked like you were but here's my point i don't think impromptu employee reviews at a restaurant
on your one night out was uh is it was good for you uh from jamie he lost me at the word drill
sergeant yeah it's an intense word um all right anymore 12 hours in and like and then obviously
you get the residual like i was just look, just try and keep taking it until,
obviously you see me cracking episode 11 and 12.
I do think I was quite zen to be honest.
Yeah.
You know, like I, I didn't, I, you know, I just, I just look,
I take it as long as you can.
And then like things just kept going.
And, and I was like,
I just didn't know a lot of the stuff that was happening.
I didn't know it was happening, you know, and that's why I went,
not to cut too far in advance,
but when I wasn't told why I was taking off that shift,
like I didn't know any of that was happening.
I thought I was like, I worked hard that night, you know.
Obviously, they put on the thing that I'm talking to myself going,
that's good enough.
But like I was exhausted looking after the guys.
The fishing stunk.
It was, you know know it was like yeah
that's why i'm saying a patini me and patina got along really well in deck so i was
rustling her up and she's getting furious at me and and so i had no idea what was happening
should we talk about should we talk about benny's most insidious moment well jason dunn asked
was that intentional to tell the guests that this is a great time to fish and it was going to be Britt's shift.
Was that to intentionally torture her?
A nasty move, Benny.
A nasty move.
Like, it's Aussie banter.
You know, we're all G-ing each other up all the time.
Like, it's like, I just want to, like,
but that's the funny thing,
because I'm seeing, like, now I look at it,
I'm like, oh, my God, what's this poor girl thinking?
Because, like, I'm like, go out there and see how tough it is to catch some squid at two in the
morning right and then he's like you know getting angry at me and like I got no idea why because I
thought you know most of the time we're joking on deck together right so it's just this whole
confusion but like you know I love that girl I wouldn't I would only say that because I like
you know was so close with her you know what I mean hot captain's got a question and I can see
where you're coming from because there was a lot of pranks and stuff in a number of times in the
beginning of season they were spraying you with the hose and you're like oh i'll get back at you
by making you work six hours in the middle of the night yeah yeah you're a master of pranks
it's all lighthearted stuff yeah I know. Quick PSA.
If you see us perspiring and it makes you uncomfortable, that's because we are in a fucking sauna right now.
And if Pat does not get a wall unit by next week,
we're not doing this show anymore.
Quick PSA.
Noted.
All right.
So Jeremy Vargo, and hopefully this doesn't cross the line.
We have a PR person on line with us because it is a little behind the scenes.
But as far as the incidents with Jamie kind of intimidating you,
was that what was taking place or was it a little bit worse
that it perhaps wasn't seen?
I just felt like shit.
And it's like even just saying, you know,
I'm going to tell you what
i used to do like that's like it's there's a you know feeling of like oh god i need to be
anyway from my perspective it's not just what's coming at your mouth it's the energy that you feel
from somebody you know what i mean so you can say things but it's like that and i i actually
didn't really know he was a cop until the end. So, like, it makes sense. And, look, in respect to him, if he's been trained like that,
I get it.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's, they're trained to be like that.
Like, that's what police officers are trained to do.
They've got to be out there and enforce, you know,
full-on laws in the street and people, you know,
criminals and whatnot.
But, like, when you bring that onto deck or, like,
into a workplace that isn't really, like, you know, one that needs fear instilled in it, it's a lot.
It was a lot to handle and a lot to take on.
And it was a lot going on all the time that I didn't really feel like I could breathe.
Right.
That makes sense.
Yeah, to be fair to Jamie, his career before yachting, somebody says, you got to show up somewhere at 10 o'clock.
You got to be there at 10 o'clock.
And then you have to take your clothes off
and you have to dance for a bunch of women.
It's a very stressful job.
He was a stripper cop.
The mean streets, that's a lot.
So can we get to the food?
We call Ryan, Chef Ryan,
who we think is one of the worst people
we've ever seen on this show.
We call them pizza rat. Yeah first pr is on the line just to speak to pr for a moment there
is no one we've wanted to talk to more in our entire tenure of doing the show than that gigantic
piece of shit but we will be cordial with him i don't want to spook you well we want to talk to
that ryan not pos okay so this is what i have to say
about ryan and you tell me benny because it seems like you guys were kind of buddies watching the
show he is arrogant he's belittling he offers poor service he's got a really bad attitude pretty
hateful but still i know guys like him and i could have a beer and go watch a baseball game with him and we could be buddies. I just can't work with him or be his boss.
So with that, what was your relationship with Ryan?
And what are your thoughts?
I guess you haven't watched the show,
so you don't know how bad his food was.
No, I've watched the show.
Okay.
I love the show.
I watch it every week.
I love it.
Was that an accurate depiction of what you were seeing
regarding his attitude in the galley and towards guests?
Look,
my,
when I watched back,
when I watched the show back,
I'm appalled.
Yeah.
Like I am.
Yeah.
I'm in shock.
Yeah.
It's not,
it's,
you get put into,
you get put into a boat on a boat with a group of people
that you would just never really meet in real life yeah yeah it's like i got i'm just trying
to structure how i'd say this the thing is he was he was lovely to me consistently the entire time
yeah when we were out in the bottle thing happened that that just that was too much
right i i
acknowledged that i was on this show i'm sitting at dinner tables i've got people arguing i've
absolutely nothing screaming each other throwing shit over the table talking like this i'm it's
not a dinner party that i've ever been to in my life right i'm doing this every single for every
three days sure yeah i'm at a dinner party where like there's there's debauchery going on but you
know i don't see how he's acting with asisha. We don't see any of that stuff.
But I do see how he's behaving at the dinner table
and I see how he's behaving after the show.
And, you know, it is what it is.
Like I went on the show.
I survived.
You know, I...
Barely.
I didn't have a... Barely.
Barely.
So, Benny, Ryan, so this is this your full statement you never went into the galley and asked ryan what he was making for dinner tonight and he
didn't tell you to go get a fucking squeegee uh and do your fucking job and get it was never rude
to me once it's probably because uh you're uh not a woman eliza harper also an aussie she wants to know how was the crew food that he made for you guys
uh that there wasn't much oh wow unbelievable unbelievable wait let's drill into that
when you say there wasn't much what do you mean and how does it compare to other chefs
uh on other yachts that you've worked on well we it was an issue the crew food so
um you know i spoke to
him a few times about it i said you know just make some veggies and he would make it but the
thing is i think he went in and you know obviously like i i got along really well with asia i mean
she's pretty hard not to get along with um and and you know they were i didn't see what they
were doing i didn't see them going at that you don't see a lot of the stuff sure you're in your
own i had enough of my own shit going on that i just didn't other i didn't want to i didn't see what they were doing i didn't see them going at that you don't see a lot of the stuff sure you're in your own i had enough of my own shit going on that i just
didn't other i didn't want to i didn't even want any of my own drama so i didn't see a lot of that
stuff but we we were going hungry um and we spoke to him about that and then
that's yeah wow so unbelievable that like he was such a such a tuck everlasting kind of spring of awful that they didn't even need to use that storyline that he was starving the rest of the crew to make him come off as a pizza rat.
I don't think he's going to make the reunion.
Megan Bancroft wants to know, who are you still in touch with that was on the show?
I still speak to Bertini. I still speak to Aisha, Jace, and Captain Jason. Who else?
Nate. Nate's actually one of my trading students. So I teach trading and he's doing really well.
Oh, wow.
So Nate, I speak to regularly um he's
just come on taylor i speak to a lot um who else yeah that's about it to me i speak to so pretty
much everybody earlier pretty much everybody yeah yeah yeah except for one person yeah i did and i
did speak to jamie like i you know i've done a lot of interviews this week after i put that video out but um i spoke to jamie uh well i was in miami
with him actually um uh about a month ago and you know everything was fine it was it was lovely you
know we were chilling but then obviously like there was still articles he was releasing about
saying i was incompetent constantly and that was after we hung out and then like you know obviously
i saw everything on the show and the way he was talking about me behind the scenes. And I just, yeah, I just, I mean, you know,
there's only so much you can, you can.
Should we, should we get into some tough questions?
Well, I just got a couple more softballs
and then I'll hand it over to you.
Let's do one or two.
Let's do one more softball.
Rachel Ann wants to know.
Hot Captain Jason raised his hand.
He's very sick.
So when he raises his hand, I want to go to him
because it, it takes a lot of
effort for him to get that arm up.
Yeah, because of the sigh out.
It also takes a lot
of effort to not talk until called
on. So thank you for
acknowledging when I do do it.
And this wasn't worth it.
This wasn't worth it. I just wanted to shout out
Eliza for that great question that I didn't think
was going to go anywhere, but gave us probably the juiciest part of the interview.
Pizza Rat was starving the crew.
Unbelievable.
Great stuff.
Rachel Ann once asked, was Magna, was it noticeable how much she was actually using her devices?
I didn't see any of that.
And again, it's like, it's full of like, I didn't know that she'd taken a nap during the day, like all those. I didn't, I didn't see any of that and again it's like it's full like i didn't know that you're
taking a nap during the day like all those i didn't i didn't see any of that so wow like yeah
it's it's it's full on a lot of the stuff you see i'm watching it as it goes like i'm actually
really thoroughly enjoying the show because i'm like what the fuck okay like what like i didn't
even know the bitch thing happened i was like oh my word what was the
bit oh the bitch yeah well yeah he was just picking on somebody else and i could i was just
like like i can dance now yeah that's how it goes i mean my conspiracy theory was that you called
him a bitch very early on and the cameras didn't catch it and then from then on it's set to tone
not at all anyway any other softballs that i mean i that's pretty much it uh carlos
uh keegan i'm sorry caroline keegan's wants to know who's the hardest working person on the boat
in your opinion benny hardest working person on the boat yeah um i to me to me or asia to me
100 to me is such a rock all right one last one this is probably an inappropriate question feel
free to uh toss this off if you don't want to do it,
but Rick Hub's a real pick, but he listens to our show,
so he fits in.
He says, fuck Mary, kill the girls on the boat.
There's two men.
Oh, yeah.
Don't answer, Benny.
Why?
They do it.
The girls do it all the time.
That's true.
Benny, answer, please.
Yeah, I'll give you fucking Mary. Okay. Okay. time. That's true. Benny, answer, please. Yeah, I'll give you fucking Mary.
Okay.
Nice. That's funny.
We can fill in the kill pretty easily, I think.
I'd probably, you know,
after now, I'd
shag Brittany and then marry Taylor.
Yeah. Marry Taylor.
Oh, come on. You gotta marry Kermit. I mean Aisha.
Well, no. It's his game of
fuck, marry, kill. So he doesn't have to do anything
right patrick um and then i think he would kill jamie um okay so um i want to ask about
benny's incompetency which was on display a couple of times but i feel like it's going so well i
don't want to i don't want to get messy well you know he's still listening to us, right? I know, I know.
He can go for it.
I'm good.
The only thing I noticed was I'm nervous.
Hot Captain?
Yes, Hot Captain?
Benny.
Oh, sorry.
I forgot.
I'm Hot Captain.
Yeah.
I'll take this one for you.
I saw your seven-minute response to Jason.
The competency just wasn't there.
On every boat Benny's's worked on the person
with the controls in their hand is the one controlling the jet ski he stands by it he
wasn't he's not going to go on the chain locker he doesn't care how that means okay the other time
you're incompetent uh you weren't well he almost crashed the fucking tender into the side of the
dock well that was a big one what happened there dj susan DJ Susan was in town. I have my own views on what happened there,
but I definitely didn't say I'm going to go for a joyride
and then come in hot.
Right, okay.
And there's certain things called collision regulations
and you give away to Starboard, but, you know, it's like,
I got called to come in.
Jason called both of us to come in simultaneously.
And I came in and then he was coming at the same time
and there was that overshoot.
And, you know, I own it.
Again, in that situation at that point in time,
I hadn't been on Nintendo for a long time.
I hadn't been at Sea for a year and a half.
And, you know, I shouldn't have been anywhere near that that situation um but you know it's there's a lot
going on and um i you know it's things that you're a daredevil what happened what happened
in my eyes was very different but i don't want to sit here and deflect something. Yeah.
And that is what it is.
And that,
and it is what it is.
It was a goddamn accident.
Give the guy some,
a break.
Okay.
Brown noser.
You fit into your role very well this afternoon.
Um,
but yeah,
Benny,
you don't have to explain.
Cause when you said collision regulations,
I checked out immediately.
I mean,
almost instantaneously.
Jed Phoenix.
You're like, yeah, he knows what he's talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Benny, Jed Phoenix wants to know,
Jamie made a lot of accusations about Captain James.
I don't know if he used the word dangerous,
but he basically thought that Captain, yeah, maybe he did.
Captain Jason said some of the things that he did
while being a captain, he considered to be dangerous or reckless.
Do you agree with some of those situations that took place?
Look, the guy's been a captain for like 25 years.
Well, he has crashed a boat.
Yeah.
He has crashed a boat.
I felt safe the entire time.
You know, it's when we're going,
when Jamie asks to slow down,
he does slow down.
I haven't seen anybody standing on the aft deck
when the line is actually going out.
Right.
So, you know,
that's I think season six or seven
when Ashton got done with his feet on the aft deck.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody's meant to be off the aft deck
when that's happening.
I felt safe the entire time.
So, yeah,
there's nothing reckless that was happening.
All right.
Well, I got a big one.
And this may be breaking the fourth wall
and maybe just signal us physically
if you can't answer because of the PR on board.
Did they steal my title, Benny and the Jet Ski?
That was the first, our first, our recap of the first episode was benny and the jet ski
and then like episode 11 fucking peacock yeah yeah no it's really unbelievable the ip well
let's ask the pr person who's on the phone i don't i yeah i don't think hayley's in a position i'm
pretty sure i just found out about the, like that scene,
I think just prior to that,
I'd found out that he,
that he'd taken me off the ship without telling me.
So there's a lot of,
yeah,
I was,
I was furious.
You can pretty much see it on my face.
My last question,
because we got to let Benny go.
I have one after yours,
but that's it.
I just want to ask what he's up to now.
He's trading in cryptocurrencies. But let him get the plug-in he gave us his time no no no you're you're 100 right okay so um how do we sign up for your grip yes yeah how how do we sign up for
your financial cult and also can you give us one coin or something like that. Oh, I don't do crypto.
I just trade the S&P 500.
But I live in Tulum in Mexico.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And it's hot.
Probably hotter where you guys are.
And I just do a bit of trading in the morning.
On my Instagram, there's a website there.
But yeah.
Do you ever go to...
I have about 10 students at a time.
And we take it very seriously. what's it called uh mindful trading.io mindful trading.io
okay www.mindfultrading.io yeah yeah i i you gotta you gotta clean up the bio on the business
because i also thought it was crypto i feel yeah i mean no's going to be homeless off the S&P 500. Just say the bio is like you're a younger, more handsome Warren Buffett.
So anyways, everybody go to Benny's website.
If you want to become wealthy, if you want your portfolio to increase 500% in one week,
go to Benny's Instagram.
I never said anything.
It's a guarantee. Go benny's instagram benny thank
you so much for joining us that's right benny you're great we enjoyed watching on the show
i think you came off great good luck with everything good luck man thanks for spending
time with us thanks bud bye Thank you.