Another Below Deck Podcast - Don't Trust Anyone | Below Deck S12 E2

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

With Dylan on paternity leave, Pat and Ruby are back, along with Producer Caelan, to talk all about identity fraud, pubic hair, seafood, Littlefinger, genital piercings, Sister Wives and more from Bravo's Below DeckUS.Koala.Com/BadTV Rula.com/BadTV

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This is Bad TV. Dylan's not here. He's still home with his family. Him and Cece are hanging out with their lovely baby, Lucy Anne. But the good news for you guys is we have fan favorite producer, Kaelan. Hello. Of course. Oh, hi, Kaelan.

Hey, hey. And Ruby Red. Hey, Kaelan. Hey, Pat. How are you guys? Great to be here. I'm good. You're good as well. I'm good as well. Mm hmm. I don't know when Dylan's coming back. Maybe he'll be back the next episode, but if he's not, it's just gonna be the three of us. And if you don't like it, T.S. How's that sound? What does T.S. mean?

Tough shit. Tough shit. Okay. I was, yeah, I didn't, Kaylin, did you know that? No, I was wondering the same question. You were reading my mind. Thank you. All right, anything to get out of the way. Kaylin, what have you been up to? You want to plug your dad's podcast? Sure. It's called Just Fooling About with Michael Biehn.

We talk movies, interview actors and directors, and you can find it on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, and yeah, that's really what's taken up most of my time these days is figuring out how to grow this fucking thing. Oh, so you don't want to come back and produce our show anymore Oh, I still don't want to do that But there's a lot of chaos going on at the moment one of your hosts just had a baby So I'm gonna let you guys let the dust settle on that and then maybe we can talk about working for you guys a little more okay

Ruby Anything you need to take care before we get started with the recap? No, I have absolutely nothing Pat to take care of. Thank you for asking. Okay, Rubes, now you've come on the show before to recap below deck with us, but what is your history with the television program? Do you watch every season? Do you have a favorite?

Do you just pop in and out of watching the show? Because you know, there's it runs year-round now. I watched every season until they made 34 seasons a year. Now I would like to say that I watch about 75 percent of the seasons. I know the majority. I know the classics. I obviously know Frazier. I do not know this new chef, this French man. Oh you don't need to get to know him. He's not going to be around much longer. know this new chef, this French man. Oh, you don't need to get to know him. He's not going to be around much longer. Okay, great.

But no, the show I'm very familiar with, the lore I'm very familiar with. I am a very big fan of your dear friend, Kate Chastain, Queen of the sea. And Captain Carrie seems like a great leader and I'm impressed by him. So that's my relationship with it. Pretty close. Great. All right. A couple other pieces of business if you want to support the show head on over to patreon.com slash another podcast network we are doing another podcast show there we do some of those they try and get out one a week I'm sure it's gonna be pretty baby news heavy once Dylan gets

back and we are also wrapping up our coverage of Summerhouse I think we'll be recapping part two of the reunion and then we're gonna move on to some other reality show I think that's still up for grabs. Although I think a lot of people want us to do traders Okay, let's get into it Can I just say something? Why is there no very famous reality television show called up for Grabs? And it's a pot of money. It could be about quite literally anything. It's just Up for Grabs. Wow, that sounds like a game show.

Yeah, Pat, can you noodle on that please and go produce it? I'll work on it. What I do though, my craft is I take existing reality shows and I fix them. You're right. I'm sorry, okay. So someone do that. Kaylin, you make it and then Pat, you noodle and fix it.

All right. Let's do our fan favorite segment. Thoughts and nots. Kaylin, you can't do this because you don't get the early screeners like Ruby and I. Correct. I'm just here to watch you guys. Okay. I'm familiar with the show though. So maybe I could chime in a little bit here and there. Okay. Ruby, what are your thoughts and not odds on this episode? All right. I thought that this episode is actually pretty fun. I think we lay the groundwork for, I mean, bombs are dropping everywhere. Nothing has exploded yet, but the little, or maybe not bombs, the little pins from grenades have been pulled, but they haven't been thrown quite yet. These people appear to get along right now. I think that they all will hate each other in four to six episodes with the remaining ones because I do think that the French woman

cannot last she cannot last there's no way that you can get other people when there's a little tiny turd and still remain a stew on a boat this big. I think the boys are kind of just, I don't know, his penis is pierced and he seems to be an okay worker. And that's, you know, but then again, we find out that these people are not okay workers. And somehow I think it's gonna go south with the boys.

I don't know how. And again, I'm just impressed with Kerry because I feel like everybody else is an actual sham. But if the boat like went down, he would know maybe what to do and he wouldn't have to call an engineer. So I'll go- Keep live is what you're saying. Yeah.

Yeah, I think he would, Pat. And I think he would preserve life aboard the vessel. So 29 knots. 29 knots. Okay. You know what I'm loving about this season is just how fluid all the Sea Rats are. I mean, they'll bang anything, anytime, anywhere. The Sea Rat, long Sea Rat pastime of cast members discussing who they'd like to have

sex with, I believe it was Kyle and Jess in this episode, Kyle basically said, I'll have sex with anything. And that's that beached turd on that toilet bowl. If it had eyeballs, I think he'd hit it. I mean, he is a he's a questionable young man. I really love the Scotsman though. But um, yes, I love this season so far. This episode was fun. It's interesting because some of the people are Caio, who is the bossin, he seems like a nice guy, but he's a little shaky. So one fun part about watching him is, are you one more mistake away from getting

the hammered out on you? Well, yes, Patrick, he is. That's what I thought. And I just love all the potential for hookups. I loved these first charter guests. I kind of came around to Sam. I didn't like him in the beginning, but it turned out he ended up being a nice guy and he tipped very well. So you get to be an asshole if you're going to tip well. Overall, great season so far. I loved the teaser trailer for the the rest of the season in which things start off really nice with Chef Anthony coming back on the boat and Frazier and then we see it's just roughly around two weeks later

They're ready to kill each other Yep, people should learn from that when you have a falling out with someone It doesn't mean you can't mend the relationship But it does it does mean you probably can't live in close quarters with one another for three months. I may not sleep and then be like under pressure constantly with each other. Yeah probably I do know what you mean Pat Goodpoint. Mm-hmm. All right I'm gonna give it 14 knots. All right here we go. It's day two of the charter and Chef Lawrence is frantically unraveling and threatening to quit.

And I was thinking if he did leave at this time, that would be the quickest exit in the show. And then I remembered there was that guy that was faking his identity and got fired before the boat got off the dock. Did you guys watch that? I remember that one. And then I started thinking, those stakes are pretty low for identity theft. You know, that's like a federal crime. You can go to jail for that. It's rivaled by only someone committing identity fraud to be a fluffer at a gangbang. You know, the stakes are low.

Hi, I'm Tom. I'm here to whack off a bunch of guys. I'm sorry, Tom, your photo doesn't match your face. You can't do that. Get out. Here's the thing. your face, you can't do that. Get out. Here's the thing, one, you know when you lie and you get caught in a lie, like a big, big lie, for me it was cheating on a paper in 11th grade

and the walls start to actually unravel and you're like, I will burrow into myself, I'll eat myself to get out of this because it's so terrible. When that guy got caught by Captain Sandy, just lying about his literal identity and skill, it was, I think that's what he felt in that moment. And then he just started to sweat profusely and turn very red. I loved to watch that. I really did. And I thought she was the perfect one for it. Captain Carrie is the perfect one to handle this unraveling little spool of a chef who

has found Jesus, but is still very unmeasured despite what he says. Well let's get to that. Okay, so Kerry attempts to calm Lawrence with some understanding, but also tells him to pull up his big boy pants. Now I liked this approach, Kerry did, but Patty would be much harder on this young man. I would have said, Lawrence, if you quit this charter right now, I'm going to go and watch what happens live with Andy. I'm going to tell them you have the smallest dick I've ever seen. I'm going to say ants walk by you and they laugh at you. That's how small it is. And ants, I don't know if you knew this, they have pretty small dicks. So go chop some broccoli or

something, but stop being a whiny bitch. Yeah, he basically said it's going to be chaos and then the next charter will come and it'll still, it's going to still be chaos. And then you're an adult and this is your fucking job. So you'll be fine, right? Good day. And then he leaves and that's what he should do. And then to Fraser, I think he says, you know, if this guy wants to be this big of a fucking bitch, fuck this fucking guy. I'll fucking get another bitch up here and then we'll fire him too. And you know what? Good for them. Well Carrie talks with Frazier and he realizes there's one thing wonderful about just understanding reality on reality's terms, which is you're not going to keep Lawrence here. There's nothing you can say to urge him.

And if you do, he'll stay in other two charters and he'll make your life completely miserable. So it's better to, you know, let him go now or figure it out now. One of the best things that someone once told me was, don't wait for people to disappoint you. When they're showing you who they are, believe them. Well, that last one was Maya Angelou, I think, but the first part, I'm not sure. Oh, yeah, I kind of mixed them up, I think. Well, anyway, meanwhile Barbara entertains the charter kids and then we get our first Sea Rat history from Kyle. That's the boson. Here's the breakdown. His dad taught him good work ethic. His dad taught him good work ethic. His dad came from nothing and eventually owned his own construction company. Then sadly one day he was crushed by a concrete mixer. Kidding,

that didn't happen. But if it did, that'd be two and a half points on the Sea Rat sad scale. They just kind of left us up in the air with this story. I don't know if this Well, the thing they also they kind of leave you on a very like so the gorgeous this is the one Sea Rat whose dad seems like a wonderful upstanding guy who is alive involved in his child's life and like provided a good example for him. Who the fuck is this guy? Get him off the boat. This guy sounds like he's a normal person. He doesn't't belong he doesn't belong here you know it's funny Ruby you say that and Dylan will often call me a narcissist and insane because I'll say that production listens to this podcast and they're messing with me I have had

so much fun making fun of these Sea Rats and the Sea Rat sad scale for so long they finally said I know a way to torture old Patty. I'm going to leave these open ended stories, and I'm not going to give Pat the pain. So Pat can pounce on the pain. So that's what they're doing. You're gonna find the pain, I think I think it's going to take us not very long to discover that in actuality, these dads is as shiny and bright as they may seem. They they under the surface, we all have demons and we will find those father's

demons. Oh, yes, he's a Sea Rat. After all. He got here somehow. Right, exactly. Okay, so the guests seem happy with breakfast and the topic of having hair downstairs comes up and the question is no pubic hair or pubic hair and this is just Pat's personal opinion. No hair. I swallowed pubic hair once and I almost died. And that's a fair example to include in sharing your opinion. What I think is, you know, everything is within reason. Don't be crazy. I did love the, you could feel the frustration and the vitriol bubbling inside of that woman

when she was like, stop it. There are children here. And then all the guys lightheartedly were like, she must not have shaved. That would have made me cry and leave the table. But like, you can't because you're an adult. That was amazing to watch. And I agree, French people shave, don't shave. Do your best. I do believe it. I think it does keep you clean down there. It helps out. You know, evolution gave us hair for some reason, so, you know, who am I to mess with evolution? Anyway, Barbara is finding a better way

to communicate with Soleil, and that's by using the magic word. I believe that's please. And Ole Soleil asked Rainbow of helping cleaning toddler's butt dumplings, if it's part of the job and it's explained or that it absolutely is. Right. Not only, not only is it your job to clean

this little butt dumpling from this small child out of this toilet, which doesn't involve anything. It actually you just have to flush and then it's clean. We find out that Rainbow has actually seen, I think Pat was on her boat a few years ago and Monica was the Grand Prix because that was me. Yeah, I asked for my coffee to be black. And then someone put like two creamers in there. And I was like, all right, well, here we go. And I walked up on the dock of the boat. And I

just pulled down my pants and took a huge dump on the dock. And they didn't say a word to you, did they? No, they were like, we deserve that. I'm sorry, sir. And I said, okay, that's fine. We all learn. And then you chipped him 30 grand and everything was genuinely fine. And that's the job. Okay. That is the job. Okay. So Carrie and Fraser chat and an unlikely chef is recommended likely chef is recommended to replace Lawrence and that's chef Anthony. I remember him but not that much. Do you guys have any memories of this? We obviously know he got axed, but I think it was just because he was being a gigantic pain in the ass. He was exhibiting some of the same behaviors that we've witnessed Lawrence do just in a longer period of time.

It genuinely seemed as though he was trading one very mentally unstable, short tempered man for another who also isn't very good at his job. I'd have to agree with you there. Now I do want to point out, so some people had issues with Chef Serena last season. Take whatever she did that entire season against with what chef Lawrence has exhibited in 24 hours. Okay. You can have chefs that, you know, uh, throw pots and pans, yell at everybody

or always in a bad mood, or you can have chef Serena who's a little insecure. And, uh, yeah, I guess that was all Serena was guilty of. Yeah. Just normal, normal person things. Not necessarily like weird, weird. This guy's a fucking weirdo. Honestly. I'm getting them off the boat. Get them. You're talking about chef Lawrence. Yes, I am. Later on when he talks about, you know, uh, I used to be an angry guy and short tempered and, uh, just quick to anger.

But after finding Jesus, I, uh, I fixed those things. I'm like, I don't think you meant Jesus. I think you meant like a homeless hippie guy with a two by four in his hand, you because you're still all those fucking things. Yeah, yeah. No, you didn't find him. You had like four more blocks to go and you were close, Laurence, but you turned around too early. And now you just recite Bible verses in the galley while you quit. OK. He also has a tattoo that says, don't trust anyone. Patrick, that was outrageous. That was outrageous, was it not? If you're who if you know somebody with that tattooed on their body, is it? And I do not believe it is a joke. Wow.

Get this quick personal story. So I played football. I hated it. I sucked. That wasn't good. But I played, I took my junior year off, but I played off the other three years in high school. Senior year, four captains, four football captains. One of them, his name was Eric. And at the end of the season, you get most valuable player or whatever. And I think Eric got snubbed as the only captain that didn't get a big trophy. So when yearbook time came around,

and you got to leave your blurb with your picture in your yearbook, which is the original hashtags, you're like, had a great summer, love, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, he put four years of football all for nothing and that's all he wrote is his blurb and boy did that catch fire uh our football coach dail time dimetopolis like went to his house to argue with him about it and i hated dail by the way because dail grabbed me by my uh my helmet and swung me around like I was a fucking chicken. And anyway, he was a total dick. But why did I bring this up? Oh, don't trust anyone. Oh, sorry. He said four years of football all for nothing. Sorry, Patty's dub. That's okay. Only trust

yourself in a dollar bill. I'll never forget. That's what I read it as as blurb. I was like, holy shit He was really pissed about that trophy Wow, I miss me coming our 16 year old kid Wait, right. We could argue that you forgot it just now but aside from that that is something that you would remember for forever but also 16 is a very Impressionable age and something like that, you don't forget that either. That 16 year old, it stays with you for a very, very long time. So maybe I hope that he,

I hope he got trophies elsewhere in his life. I really do. Actually, the story went even sadder. I came back from college after my first year and I'd heard that Eric had gone off the road with his car and he lost a toe in the accident. Can you imagine that? You fly out of a fucking car and you're like oh my god I'm alive I'm alive where's my fucking toe? Yeah and I'm not kidding if it's the big toe it's very very very problematic. It was the big toe it was the big toe. It's very, very, very problematic. It was the big toe. It was the big toe. That's not good. It's not good?

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All right. So the wind picks up just as Rainbow is telling Barbara that soleil is completely useless, which she is But more importantly the drama is taking place outside KO is eating and demo is snoozing and Carrie once again has to jump in to be a decky to avoid a catastrophic Safety issue with all those kids right around there These are the things, I've been watching this show for a long time, you never know if it's made out of drama, like it was filmed this way, edited this way. I think a guy can sit down and have a sandwich for 10 minutes while people are

out, if you got two of your deckies out there watching people, but who am I? Any thoughts on that? Also, isn't the point of all the machines on the boat to tell us exactly like when the storm is coming like if the storm is coming imminently it's right here. I don't imagine your bosun is like all right I'm gonna pop down for uh uh Sammy and you go and break right? Like I think we're all we're okay here. I think yeah, I do see occasionally I Captain Carrie, he licks his finger and he holds it up in the air and he's like, oh, storms coming in. No, you're right. He does have a special power. So maybe he was just he was early.

Well, the guests eat lunch and as the audience might assume, without our culinary expert in studio, there'll be no food critique unless you guys have some thoughts on it I personally am a is it a mo? I know palette as Dylan has said and it's fair. I eat turkey sandwiches as 80% of my diet So you are you cut out there Pat your internet won't won't you just say that again? What are you a oh? I'm a filthy yucky dormy with the palette of a pig Just say that again. What are you a? Oh, I'm a filthy yucky dormy with the pallet of a pig

But it's true because I I have I eat turkey sandwiches all day, but okay first of all, thank you for for clarifying I Didn't say anything except for a start with lobster and something then another fish I don't like fish and it looks very nice. That was it looks nice Yeah, I'd have one bite and I'd be like, all right, that was nice. If I'll tell you what, if all that existed on the planet Earth was fish seafood to eat, I'd be like 90 pounds. I just say to exist. It would be the only time in my life that I could imagine that food for fuel would apply to me. That's it. Me too. I love seafood.

What's your fave? Crab. I like that for you, Kaelin. Yeah, yeah. It's like a challenge. It's like a challenge with a little reward at the end. You got to work for it. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a reward. It's like you're putting in some work. It makes you feel a little better once you get there and it tastes delicious. You like that, huh? I love all seafood. I love all seafood. I'll have Yeah, I'll have clams mussels. I'll have oysters all the grossest stuff that you hate I I love Wow you like work. What if someone you ordered a hamburger and someone put a fucking cow on your table

You had a like this there's still a skin on this thing. Yeah, I like to you know, that's how I like my food. I like to work. Yeah. All right. So Carrie calls Anthony and we learned that he was destroyed when he was fired and he was hurt that Barbie. Well, Barbie gave him the information that Frasier was behind his firing. So there's a couple things there. He wants to settle his hash with Frasier was behind his firing. So there's a couple things there. He wants to settle his hash with Frasier when he gets back on the boat. And he wants to make a big triumphant comeback. And I love a redemption story. I just hope it's as good as it's a wonderful life because both the parallels couldn't be closer.

You know? Yeah. Given the fact that on this FaceTime, I believe that Carrie says, I love your food, but you fell apart. I don't know that we will have redemption here. I think that Fraser is, we see five star service. I think it's after this call that he comes upstairs and he says, the guests like drop that massive fucking plate of food, and he goes, nothing broke, iconic. I, that's the type, so like, even if he is responsible

for getting you fired, which I don't think that he is, I think your food is just bad and you fell apart, he deserves to get whoever he wants fired because that's what he says to people when they drop massive plates of food and nothing breaks, you know what I mean? So he's very good good at his job and I think he kind of deserves to talk little shit yeah yeah I and you know Fraser's a friend of the show I like the guy on a personal level and I think he's doing a great job but it cannot be denied that he is the seerat

version of little finger uh he doesn't like you he's up in that bridge he's like you. He's up in that bridge. He's like, you know, Gary, he's like this. Are you busy? And I, you know, I think you never know when the Frazier is walking into your office, who he's who he's going to ask you to fire. Where the hell am I? Okay, so. There, there were cleaning the the boat. And this is where I believe Jess and Kyle make their deal on a who can fuck Barbara first, right? She's like, oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, this is quite the past time You uh, you have to talk about who you're gonna shag and as I pointed out the Scotsman He's got his eye on Barbara, but that means nothing it he'll pretty much have sex with anybody He's got his eye on Barbara, but that means nothing. He'll pretty much have sex with anybody.

Yep, and speaking of that, Jess would make me gay if I was in a boat with her, maybe, probably. She's lovely, and I think that she works very hard, and unless she does something really crazy, I think she's lovely and cute. Mm, Jess, I like Jess. So this is where we get, you know, once again, Bravo, I know you're messing with me

with these Sea Rat history stories, just you're not giving me anything to work with. So here's how it goes. She shares she was hesitant to share with her parents that she was gay. And when she told her dad, like she was nervous and she's like, Dad, I'm gay. And he goes, I know. Are you kidding? After the 34th time you went to go see the Indie Girls in concert, I told your mother, I said,

I think our daughter's a donut bumper. And your mother said, dear, you're right. She does bump her donut against others. Yeah, and we're totally cool with it. Why is she being so weird about it? Again, another good dad. I don't know what to tell you, Bravo. You're listening. You're listening. Yeah. There's something going on here though. Something, something. I do. Just really quickly, this was when I believe that she's having a little breakdown

because she's doing all their work and she's just annoyed and out loud. I think she says something like, I can't take this right now because she she thinks she's alone and Carrie's pops up and he's like, Hi, what's good going on there? And then every and it just that was just a funny. What I like about Carrie is he's everywhere. Okay, so he is he and is he actually like willing to jump in and be good captain or is this a facade? Yeah, no, the one of the things that I noticed and I think he appreciated when he came on as an interview guest is that we pointed out that he was the first captain to ever leave his room

or the bridge before guests arrived to do a walkthrough, which any manager in a restaurant, any supervisor providing any service, the first thing you do is you kind of just check in with everybody, make sure you're at a pizza place. Hey, do we got the dough going there? You don't just walk out of your car, walk into the establishment and go into your back office, which most of these captains have done.

So I appreciate that. Look, he's on the ball. And one thing he told us, this may have gotten cut out of the interview because Bravo didn't want it. Producers will go to the captains and go, okay, so and so is fighting and blah, but they'll give them a heads up. So this is like breaking down the fourth wall. And Captain Gary goes to the producers, don't tell me I don't, I want to get it. It's happening for real. You know? Yeah. He's a little bit quicker on his feet than old Lee. Fuck off. Where are we here? Bollywood theme.

I love Indian food. I can't eat it too much because it makes me fat, but I love it. It's a real treat. I am shocked, Patrick, that your stomach can handle any Indian food. And I mean that. Well, I didn't say I could handle it. I just like eating it. What it does to my body the next 24 hours is completely painful. But

how often do you put yourself through this? What do you say? Twice a year. Good for you. Yeah, I love the garlic naan. I like the Sammy Sosa's. That is what they're called. Yeah. What is the pan sag paneer? Oh, that's that spinach dish with like cubed whatever. Oh, cheese. Yeah, delish. Chicken martica Marsala.

It's crazy the dishes you're making up. I wonder what they would be if they existed. You know what I mean? Rice pudding. Another great one. Just don't put those fucking raisins in there. All right. Bollywood. I thought the tablescape was great. Uh, great. Um, and then, uh, where's this Lawrence attempts to go out with a bang. Oh, okay. With dinner. And I think he did, but we'll get to there. All right.

So meanwhile, I believe Soleil thinks she's on a sitcom where she's the lazy employee that asked too many questions. Um, Barbara finds her very annoying. I don't know how much longer I can handle this annoying character that she's playing. This is clearly in my opinion. I don't like to be longer I can handle this annoying character that she's playing. This is clearly in my opinion I don't like to be cynical and only fans play she's playing up the sexual. She'll have sex with nobody She'll kiss a bunch of people she'll leave this show and she'll start only fans and there'll be a $12 tier to see Miss Kitty

All right. Well, I mean if that is your play get, girl, because you won't make it as a stew. Not with this attitude. I don't think she has to be here. Also, though, like, you know, you when you go to bed in your own bed and you don't mess up half of your bed, you don't need to redo your sheets and stuff, but it isn't your bed. This is your job. Right. So as your job, you fucking take them off and you make the

bed like a like four people slept in the bed because because that's your job, you know? You know, I don't like there to be stereotypes about people. You know, I'm Irish. So people have been saying I'm a drunk, you know, there's clearly no evidence of that. But the idea that French people are kind of laid back and they really don't like to work. We've had like four people that are playing the same character playing into that stereotype on this show throughout the years. Like, I'm too tired to work. I want to eat right now. And yeah, and she's playing into it too.

Don't do that. Come on. Be the hardworking Frenchman that we know. The world knows that you can be. Uh... Anything to add to that? Nope, nothing. Just do nothing. working Frenchman that we know the world knows that you can be. Anything to add to that? Nope, nothing. Just nothing. Okay, Sam loved dinner and Carrie sits down with the guests and they talk family. That was nice. And then Barbara reports to Kyle that Sole

is absolutely useless. We all know that. And then Lawrence shares with us that he's found Jesus. And he's better now since he found him, except for that tattoo that says, trust no one. I believe this man has a criminal history, possibly where I don't know where, wherever he was like eight years ago from now. And then he met that homeless man in the park, and he was four blocks away from Jesus Christ, but he didn't go those four blocks. He thought that the man was Jesus. And now we're

here. Who were you before you met that homeless man? Because you are very angry and very short-tempered still. Okay? Yeah. Yeah. He's still the same person, I'd argue. But he's, he's, he's thinking he's made quite the transformation. If, I don't think he turned from caterpillar into a beautiful butterfly. I think he's a caterpillar that turned into an angry caterpillar with a bad attitude. Right. And they didn't write the book about him. So. No. Okay. All right. Everyone takes a cigarette break. I can't believe people are still smoking, young people smoking like this. You know, it's a Gen Z doesn't drink anymore. So I think that this is a weird, we have to remember these people are, while they're 19, they're

also 42. And I don't know a lot. I don't really see a lot of people smoking. There's too much crime here. So I have to mute myself but Yeah, maybe it's an international thing How do I what do you think a bunch of people that don't live in America smoke cigs? Yeah, I think I feel like more international people smoke then then but you know, I don't know like French people for instance Yeah, they're smoking a ton of cigs. They must be Wow I've never that's that's the thing. I've never been into well, Justin Soleil have a nice chat I think Jess and Soleil can get along because she doesn't have to work with her, you know Let's see here

Alright next morning Carrie meets with the team to go over not smashing into that that bridge The boat part parks now Carrie this is for you you if you're listening. Why not adjust the boat going through that bridge so you're going through it straight as opposed to the angle? Because the angle presents the danger. Did you guys notice that as well? Oh, sorry, Kaylee, you didn't see the show.

Yeah, so I said I don't want anyone to be put out of a job here. Also, I would just like to point out that there is no mute button on the bottom of my zoom. It literally there just isn't one there just isn't there. So that was very, very strange and I apologize. I do not think that this should be done by human eyes. I think we should get a drone and I think that the captain should be able to in addition

to the people that are helping him see how close he is to the sides because there's no fucking reason to do this. This is also why do boats go here that are so big? Can they not go anywhere else? There's like 400 islands around like right there. You can like you could see them go park there and then do that there. Right. Well, I think you got to get be at a place where you can get provisions fuel, other things and you know, some of those smaller islands perhaps don't have that they that's a that's a business old Patty, this podcast doesn't work out, you know, there you go, Pat. Okay.

Sorry, everybody. Pat's not used to hosting. Okay. Guest apart. And then I guess we just cut to that tip meeting. Overall Overall they did a pretty good job. Carrie said there were some issues but it's first charter so fuck it. Tip meeting tip is 30 grand that's 2,300 each that's some that's some good cheddar for a couple days work and then I guess the Sea Rats prep for the night. It's our first night out, which is always you can check the temperature, gauge the temperature of where the season's going to go on the first night out. Usually, Kao says he's too focused on work to take part in the partying. Kao, you can take a plane ticket.

If that's going to be your attitude. OK, get out of here. Yeah. Also, the the we have a moment where Fraser takes Solin to the side and he says, how was the charter? And she gives a really good answer. She's in an interview and she's like, you know, it was really hard, but I'm here to learn and I'm really excited and I look forward to the opportunities in me really becoming a better student to my full potential. And that's not how the charter was, right? You complained you didn't do anything and the other girls fucking hate you because they think you're lazy. So and he was like, oh, amazing way to approach it. Let's go high five. You know,

yeah, that was a that was a good answer, though. We can't deny that. What is he supposed to say to that? That was the perfect answer. He said great way to approach it. And it is if she were being not untruthful. My favorite part of the film Office Space, if you haven't seen it, it's a classic. Some of the consultants hired by the company outside as third party to come in and audit the company and its employees to see who needs to be fired. It was like the early version of what Elon Musk is doing. Did you ever see it Ruby? Yes, of course.

So they ask, I forget the main character guy like, hey, how's it? What do you think? How's it going? Hey, what a new office, you know, with that, you know, that, but with that buttery up, he's like, I don't know. What do you do all day? No, I just kind of like look at the internet and pretty much nothing. I see upper management all over this young man. That's that's this. That's this. That's this. Okay, so see rats get ready. We learned demo has a dick piercing. Not sure if you guys have any history with piercing people. I had sex with a girl once who had that thing downstairs. It's kind of hot. I am more so just interested in like, how does that not? How does it not hurt so badly? That and also, are we trusting

individuals in tattoo shops with like V placement to ensure that there's no serious medical issue? Because I'm not trusting them with anything, right? Oh, come on, Ruby, that guy that has two face tattoos and a bullet wound, apparently through his right shoulder that's doing that piercing, you don't trust that man? I mean, he's licensed. Not to make a hole in my clitoris that may kill me. No, I don't trust that man. He's not not to to make a hole in my clitoris that may kill me. No, I don't trust that man to do it. I don't think to reach his own. First night out, Soleil picks from the lobster to eat. And that was a huge lobster.

I don't like lobster. I bet. Caitlin does love it. OK, question, Caitlin, would you go pick your own, though? Like, do you think that's a little barbaric? I thought this was like weirdly fucked up now. Is this normal? It used to be a thing. I remember going to Red Lobster for my birthday and see them all in the tank. And yeah, at that point, I don't want to think about them. I don't want to pick out my victim.

Just put it in the back and bring it out to me later. So like, I don't want to, but no, I don't want to go choose which one is going to die. And you will see, Kaylin, they are enthusiastic. It looks like they're going to Chuck E. Cheese like little kids. It's wild. They're excited. Yeah, I bet. Are you referring to the lobsters or Soleil and Kyle? Both, both. Oh, yeah. I worked at Weathervane Seafoods, which was a chain seafood restaurant

on the East Coast. And I was in charge of the lobsters. And I never felt good about it. This 17-year-old, I had a moral quandary about the death of these things, because you would have the people pick out their lobster. And the next thing you do, you'd be throwing them into a hot pot of boiling water and hear them scream for their death. I think there's been laws made now that you can't kill them that way. I think they may make you bludgeon them through their head first. Yeah, they make you like put a knife through the top of their head. Yeah.

Feels more humane, right? Yeah, it does. Yeah, that's how I want to go. Fraser thinks Deimo is hot. And here's my problem with Deimo. He looks like Cody from Sister Wives. Put a little more poodle blonde hair on both sides of his head. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. I think this person is like, I to hear somebody be like, this guy's hot. I was like, who? Which one? Oh, no, because you can't be talking about that. No way. No how. And yeah, Pat, I think you're 100% right. He's less poodly Cody. Yeah. Where's that show going? Do you still watch that one? Um, no, I don't. I just listen to

June day and refills recaps on them every like four months or so because there's 35 episodes every six days and 18 seasons a year. I don't know how they keep the show going because didn't all his wives leave him. I believe yes except for Robin with the eyebrows but also like one of them is completely remarried. The other one got catfished like two years ago. So that was very fun. I believe they're actually all most of them are like in new relationships. They've left him, but they're still fighting over somehow coyote pass the property that they bought 34 years ago. And then I don't know how that family has how they don't have more money because they

have so many episodes of that show. So yeah, well, they got to whack that money up for the you're talking about numbers here. They got like 80 kids. It's true. They have a lot of children. Also, don't marry Cody as I would passively watch the show. You'd see pictures of the women he married when he first married him. And then after they'd been with him for a couple years, just be careful.

Okay. I'm just I'm saying it's his fault. He makes women miserable. Right, and have 93 kids and you're 100%, you're not wrong. The night winds down with Kyle and Damo using the tenants of GuyCode to navigate who Sole prefers, it's not the guy who's gonna decide if she likes, it's not the guy who's going to decide if she likes,

it's really going to be her. So I think she's going to play these two knuckleheads. I think they will all have sex at some point, possibly together. Interesting. Next morning, both realize they're still in the game. There's still a chance. And then they have a boat meeting to update everyone on the chef situation and then Frenchy arrives and voila, it's the Tony show. Frazier is happy to have him aboard. Remember Frazier is the one that recommended that he come back on. Perhaps there was a little bit of guilt from the past that he'd like to gut.

Can I ask was Frazier actually responsible for the firing of the chef or was the chef just bad and lost his mind? Uh, a little bit of both. Um, but, uh, I'd never seen a boss in be so ready to have people fired. I think he tried to fire definitely three, if not four people on that boat that season. And it was always just walking into Captain Carrie's bridge and saying, can we talk? All right. Little finger your heart out. Here we go.

I can't wait. That's right. So I am so happy because this episode just winded down to a screeching nothing. I'm so happy they showed us with the Chiron 14 days later. And these two are ready to f-ing kill each other. That is going to be some fun. And we'll break that down when it happens. Anything we have to get to before we leave? Anything you want to say, Kailin? Are you happy to be back? Yeah, I know. I always miss Dylan. Yeah. But I love

you guys the show. You're great. I'm just happy to be here. Oh, we're happy to have you too. Ruby, anything? Absolutely not, Pat. Have a good weekend. Awesome. All right. I'm Patty. That's Ruby. That's Caitlin. This is BadTV. Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next week. Maybe Dylan will be back. Maybe he won't. Bye. Love