Another Below Deck Podcast - Hot Water and Lemon | RHOC S20 E10

Episode Date: September 12, 2026

Dylan, Pat and Ruby are back to break down pantries, love, marriage, Solvang, La Quinta, golf and more from Bravo's RHOC.

You're one of the least interesting human beings on the planet of earth. And then you with that Travis guy are like negative interest. I would rather sit in a room with nothing in it for an entire day with my own thoughts than be forced to have dinner with those two idiots. Hello everybody. Come on now. Hello, everybody. It's bad TV.

You know what time it is. Motherfuckers. I'm Dylan and that's Pat. Hey. And do you want to... It's Ruby! It's Ruby time. Now Ruby, just calm down for a second.

The reason why Ruby has not been with us, and I'm glad that we have this in the rear view, but when Ruby was out last, she said something extremely rude to Sheree. Oh, yeah. And Sheree said something extremely rude back. Well, she said, I'm not having her at our house anymore. And I said, honey, she's on a computer in Zoom. She said that still counts. I know.

And so I'm glad that, I mean, the two of them still do not like each other. It's crazy. But I'm glad that Ruby's back with us. What were you guys fighting about? Not even going to bring it up again. Not falling for that. Good to be here. How are you guys?

I'm really, really good. 9-11? 9-11. 9-11. 9-11. One month till my birthday. All right, we are here to break down the worst show that Bravo has. It's so awful.

And we should mention that Traders is coming to Patreon. I think we'll probably do Salt Lake for free. You think so? That could get a lot of people behind the paywall. I don't know, but usually it's like, here's the good news. We're going to do a first couple episodes of both for free so you guys can wet your beaks, get addicted to us.

I think, yeah, we'll talk off. Off of Mike. But Salt Lake and Traders are coming. So go to patreon.com slash another podcast network. Sign up for that. Some bullshit. Love is blind is coming around the corner at some point. In Boston.

In Boston, I? Oh, yeah. You know, I've been reading this incredible book called the North Sun. Ruby, have you heard about this? No. Tell me more.

Oh, it's about this. It's like apocalypse now, but whalers going to Antarctica. And it sails out of, Massachusetts. Is it a true story? No, no, I don't think so. But the whaling industry, you know,

we really, speaking about putting that in the rearview mirror, I mean, we really chucked that behind us. I mean, what a horrific thing we did. How do you think we lit all those candles? Yeah, dead whales. Yeah. Imagine discovering that. And let me tell you something.

It is fucking tough to take down a whale with stuff in the 1800s. You know, that's tough. Let me say something. I'm just stabbing out of it stuff. I mean, it's very gruesome. I can't wait to light stuff. Go ahead. Do it now, right?

Like if someone said to me now, use tech from 2026, go get a whale. I'd say absolutely no way to do that. Oh, no. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. Just because they have family bonds and are among the most gentle creatures. You say on the planet,

but we're the only thing within a couple of million like years. So they're the nicest things. in the universe, you know, it's not a nice thing. Tamara Judge, actually, uh, actually not a, a nice thing in the universe. How about Vicki Gundelson? Hey, Vicki, uh, what did you, what do you think you were signing up for? Hey, Vicki, I got a great idea. Um, uh, well, I don't want to spoil the great idea. I have for Vicki. Um, uh, we, we, we, we need to get into the episode. And because, Ruby has been distant for some time. Let's go ahead.

And we're going to throw to Ruby so that she can give her boobs on the episode. I struggle because there's a lot of people that are very talented that like pitch stuff all the time. Right. And they don't get anywhere. They get shoved. You know, get out of here. Right, right, right. Right.

Yeah. But yet we make this. It's so great that you bring that up because I guarantee you. I guarantee you. There was or have been many young upstarts in, let's say, Hershey, Pennsylvania. They walk into headquarters and they go, let's make a peanut butter and jelly X, right? And they go, get out of here. Get out.

Don't ever come back. But we have the 20th season of Real Housewives of Orange County. I mean, what kind of fucking, what kind of world are we living in where that takes place? It's unjust. It's not fair. It's not right. And it's why Gandhi was so upset. I think, Ruby, go ahead.

No, that is why he was so upset. That is why. And that's also why I am so upset. Gandhi and I have a lot in common. Yeah. And I would give this. It was, there were some mental gymnastics that I actually enjoyed watching. There was a, it was like sprinkles on a Sunday.

So what is that? The whole banana split is just poop and turd. and then you have sprinkles on top. Yeah. 11. Still inedible. Yeah, inedible, 11 breasts. Yes.

Yes. Ruby and Gandhi are very, very similar in that they both hate the British for stealing their gems. A Ruby's entire thing of gems stolen by the Brits. Go ahead, Pat. Oh, okay. Well, I'm going to have to have. to give this episode some points because they went to, I think Tamrak kept referring to it as Salvane, otherwise known as Patty's second home. Yep. So that was enjoyable to see some of my,

my haunts. Yeah, they wrote on those fun little, fun little bikes. You don't go on those bikes when you're there. Last time when we went on a trip with another family, the husband of the other family insisted we do it. So I have. You didn't want to. I didn't want to for as long as we did. I wanted to hit a winery and drink more,

because that's what people do up there. Can I just ask back? Did anyone want to do it? The kids did it first, but what you don't know when you rent one of those things for an hour is that town is very small. And the places that they allow you to ride those things are literally two streets that are about a half a block each. So you just keep doing a, oh, look, there's the ice cream place again. Yeah.

There's the sausage garden. Yeah. Like anybody that gets fooled into renting them for four hours, which you can do. there's not four hours to see but but so we've got solving oh yeah we got solving oh yeah we got lequinta we got lequinta uh the best part of the episode was um was truly just the breakdown of vicky gundelson um i i don't know if it's her ego or it's just uh her stage in life i think she's probably very very stressed out by the fists that are hitting the places that are covered with clothes that are transpiring when the door is closed.

That guy fucking freaks me out. Mike. She's really weird with him. She's really weird about him. I don't know why he's around all the time. Usually when guys are involved in girls trips, it's not because the girl... It's not because the lady wants him to be there.

I bet she is very codependent upon him at this point. Oh, I think he's... Okay. All right. For all those reasons and many, many more, I'm going to give this zero. What do we? What's our rating system? Boobes. Sorry. I brought up the fists. I think that was pretty lewd. No, it's actually not because she has a history of doing this with people. Yeah.

It's worth also noting. I can't remember who it was if it was on like bitch sasher, Danny Pellegrino. But I believe it was one of those podcasts brought up that somebody pointed out. Her son still said, the worst boyfriend she's ever had was not cancer lying about cancer Brooks. It was Steve Lodge, failed Congressman Steve Lodge. I think that's because he took her for a financial run. She's awful at picking men. Yeah, she is really, really bad at it. So I want to start my boobs off.

When I was watching this and my lovely wife towards the end was draped over my shoulder, just watching it on my computer. And when the to be continued card came up, I let out a sigh, an exhausted, just dead sigh. And I didn't even recognize that I did it. But she imitated me. And I was like, what, what are you doing? She goes, you just, you just breathe like that.

So when we're watching the show and we're taking notes on the show, and it's always great to get in this room and laugh it up. I mean, gosh, what the last 10 minutes have been just gold, I think. there's a, like a, there's a black hole that we fall into. Oh. It's very fair. It's almost, it's almost dangerous. I would say that watching this show and taking notes on it is a little bit like the

upside down. I'm not going to say it's comparable, but it's close. It's how I used to feel when I'd have to, I'd have a two-hour stretch of watching 90-day fiancee. For sure. Right. I would say. I go love after lockup for this because it's sad.

There is, I can think of one. other housewife season that is worse than this one. Oh. That is 2020 New York with Ebony K. Williams and, um, Leah McSweeney. Leah trying to make Luann DeLiseps and Ramona Singer not racist. Oh. What's racist?

Not me. Some of the worst. I love singing black people songs. Oh. Um, and, reason why that wasn't entertaining is any oh my mom what's my name oh mama what's my name okay louis and you're you're blowing the light um any sisyphian thing is only good for a little bit you know what i

mean you can only watch two racist women say i'm not racist for however many episodes but outside of that, and I didn't watch the the dog season on Beverly Hills, this has got to be on the Mount Rush more of horrible seasons of Real Housewives. Yeah, it's definitely, what are their four faces up there? Unless somebody's husband starts sleeping with someone else's husband, I'm putting money on Ryan and Shane.

Sure. Good luck getting off that mountain. All right. So let's get to Solvang. I give it zero tits. We go to Solvang with Tamara. And she's going to be going there with everyone except for Shannon and Vicky, essentially. The Trace Amegas are splitting for this episode.

Now, Tamara gives a good reason. She says she wants to get to know Carmela. And if Vicky's there, you're going to, of course, have Vicki's judgment. Right. And if Shannon Bador is there, you're going to have her cloud of sadness. What's that? Oh, he said out one time she was so drunk, she filled his dog bowl full of vodka. Oh my God.

That is so sad. Horrible. Can I tell Archie something? Yeah. He told me something else, but it's too dark. Okay. He said she realized what she did and she put pineapple juice in the dog bowl and drank it. I am so sad.

He had to see that. Now, I obviously, we feel really. badly for Archie. As you would, really any poor soul that was moved on by flying through the front pain of a windshield.

That's a tough way to go. But I would ask him, like, can we, can we be a little bit less aggrieved, right? Like, every episode, it feels like we're getting a call from Archie.

He wants to unearth some unknown detail about how awful she was. And it's like, I get it. She killed you. But you're in heaven with Ted now. God knows what you two are up to, but it sounds like a good time. Like, let's evolve and let's move on, I would say.

I'll mention that next time he calls. But I'll say, I think he wants to corroborate what the ladies are saying on the show. And also, it's important to set the records. right. Ruby, do you get what I'm saying with Archie? Like, yeah, it feels like he's giving heaven a bad name. Like, I thought once you got up there, you're on the Philadelphia cream cheese cloud, everything's great. Like, do we still hold grudges up there? Yeah. What about the cream cheese? It's like Archie. But per se, I thought that we found kind of an inside and outside cream cheese kind of sanctum.

And it seems like he is still very much not there. His behavior is actually very sure. Well, he's still a bador. Emily and Shane have a chat. Well, Jen and Emily, Jen jokes about sex with Ryan. Yeah, I didn't even know what the fuck they were talking about. I did, and I don't like it. All right, so Emily and Shane have a chat. Things are going better with them and that they're both,

they both hate each other. But also, they have a composure in knowing that there is no one else and there is nowhere else. So that's it. Yeah. Yeah, they talk about, excuse me, I'm still dying. They discuss Luke's ongoing issues with French fries. I must say this, and I think the viewers will agree with me, that storyline is deader than Shane's hair follicles.

Please, let's stop it. You've been married for 17 years and you're still fucking each other, which I don't know how you pull that off. I know. That's incredible. That means you're still into each other because that's where most marriages are, dare I say, all marriages go sideways. Oh, sure.

I hate you. The physical appearance of you in the same room with me makes me want to throw up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're having sex, that means that you're doing okay. If it's not like Game of Thrones sex, right? Yes.

Because that's just sad. But yeah, when you really hate each other, there are 50 doors you got to open before you get back to sex. 100%. So I wish she'd stop using that as a storyline too. Go ahead, Rips. But also like when your wife is like, what if you get a new body totally? That's pretty cool. Yeah.

It's like I'm a new person. So that's cool for me. And you get to have sex with me, but I'm a new me. So it's kind of like, you know, when you have a new partner. But credit to Emily, though, because she's she's all hot and new and stuff. And she's the one that has the following. I'm sure that she could walk around OC and get picked up by some moderately handsome. Oh, for sure.

attorney lawyer. And so she's actually sticking it out with, uh, well, I think of, Dork, I think, Dork, I think eventually she's going to tell Shane,

hey, Shane, now it's your time to turn in, you know, your old suit. Right, right, and he's going to go, all right, I'll get on Ozempick or something.

She's like, no, no, no, I need you to get a new head. Your head's the appalling thing. Shannon brought gifts for the gals, uh, matching pajamas. They are embroidered.

And given the conversations we had recently about budgeting and debt, I would say, Shannon, we don't need the expense. right right we're doing no we don't right be a nice person to the crew how much did embroidered pajamas cost four sets of those i mean that's probably 300 400 bucks right there right oh each yeah so something uh happens to carmela uh that has always scared me the heel going through the slat. You see that? I don't know how people walk around New York in heels. I mean, how many fucking

Achilles are torn clean in half by these slats? Oh. There is a gorgeous moment in 90-day fiance where Darcy gets her heels stuck in an escalator. And it's just, I mean, look it up. It's fucking incredible cinematic masterpiece. Oh, well, they gave them endless spinoffs because they're fascinating. Um, you know, know, one thing you glossed over with Vicky and Chan and Bador is, Vicky arrives and lets us know that she's excited to show off her third house. And she says, and I quote, it's not easy owning three homes.

And I want to show the girls, you can work and be happy. What she didn't say was she was not referring to herself. Because she is miserable and petty and jealous. She's extremely unhappy. Can I say something? I think I had this realization this week that I think Vicky, and I mean this.

I think she's at a point in her life where she said, I have enough money that I don't think I need to worry about, like literal finance money to keep me alive, okay? I'm never going to find a man that liked me as much as Don did. So I need to just find someone who doesn't, I guess. Want to be with me for my money? Yeah, I think she's like, you know what? It's okay that they want me for my money because I don't want them to want me for anything else.

I know they're not going to. I've resigned to that fact. And now I'm here. You know, Larry David has a famous talk show moment where somebody asks him, are you comfortable with women liking you or wanting to date you for your money? And he goes, what else would they want to date me for? Are you kidding me? Yeah, it's completely fine.

So, yeah, I'm sure that there's a piece in that. But also, you can't pick absolute scumbets. You can pick people that are interested in your money, but you can't go all the way to the bowels of the barrel. Right. There's an interesting pool in that zip code where she lives. Like if she lived in a small town, I don't know, in a middle of America,

she'd probably be repulsed by that pool, but there's some fucking cheeseball eating, want to watch a game guy that would love the hell out of her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. of like a Steinbeck love she could have with another person. Like a true love. Like Mike seems like he probably does okay, but yeah,

I don't think that one is gonna, I don't think that one's gonna last. Shannon, remember made out with a guy the other night. And she saw him again, he was making out of the 30-year-old. So she's got a good picker too. Now let's get to Tamara being mad at Carmela

for being an hour and a half late. She doesn't understand. She's getting really, really upset. And Wilford Brimley goes, I need to shoot insulin in my body. And Tamara doesn't understand the stress that she's putting on me. Let's not victimize our diabetes when we're going on an entire feature-length film late. Okay? And we've talked about this before.

It's the height of inconsideracy. 50%. Ruby, go ahead. I do not know how people. operate this way. If Dylan and I are running, I don't know, 13 minutes late to a dinner reservation

at a place that's like a little bit stuffy, I would be sweating profusely. I would be like, you get them on the fucking phone. You apologize, you say, whatever. They're going to give our table away. If people were at my home and I was continuing to do cosmetic enhancements to myself,

I would hope one of my friends would come into the room I was in, remove the objects, my hands, throw them on the ground and say, get in the car or don't. I don't give a shit. And to the housewives, I mean, let's film, right? So like, I don't understand why we're, we're so kitty gloves with this stuff. We do it with Doreet, too, where people have these, like, quarter, non-committal grievances about this. What are we doing? Film. What the fuck is your problem? Why are we two hours late because of you? What is going on?

So, again, to refer back to an interview that Heather McDonald had with a producer named Patrick McDonald, he said that Tamrat, say what you will about her. He didn't say this, but she is a professional nasty person. Yeah. But he said she's one of the most professional TV people he's ever worked at. She's always there early. She's always prepped and basically knows what the plan is. And for Carmela to come in here, her first season and do this.

bullshit. This is not, and I say this about DeReed, who's, as we've seen in the media, her entire life is a train wreck. That corresponds with how she treats other people with their time. Her showing up an hour late to a fucking private jet, right? Gee, it's no wonder that she's living in a house that's been foreclosed on for two months. Right. Right. So bringing this back around, Carmelah, there's something that smells fishy and Dodge. That, there's no way. way that she's a, I'm just saying. No, it's very. Story does not make sense.

I was playing golf with my brother-in-law recently, and he looked at my, I was playing poorly, and he looked at my side of the golf cart, and there were boxes of balls and beer cans, and Zinn containers. There's a mess. And he goes, that's why you're not playing well. And I was like, wow. Oh, my God. You're a mess.

You're distracted. Wake up, people. There's something stanky and Dodge, right, Ruby, with Carmela? It's mainly just the Dodge for me. All right. So Carmela and the gals talk about two, um, uh, two-facedness. And the other car talks about it as well. And, um, I think I'm here to say for everyone,

no one fucking cares. This is a bad storyline. We've been on this storyline for four episodes now. We're referring to the hatred of Heather. Heather. Okay. So Heather gets in the car, and we all know that Century City Townhouse. That's the same thing that Misspelling lives at the top.

And she has a Christmas wrapping room. That's how many rooms she has in that place. Okay. She brings in snacks from Irwan. It's a softer e. Oh, that's right. And there are three bags of chips that could have fed eight families in the Sudan for about two years for the same price. No.

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Right. Yeah, because I was going to say the size of the chip bags were not, it's not going to serve any family for a year, even Sudanese. Yeah. So. I'm saying the cost. Yeah, the cost for Sudanese money.

Yes. Yeah. Now, Meatball in her OTF just goes for Heather. And she says these snacks are too elevated for trashy girls like Carmela. Boom. Meatball. What a take down. The new meatball is extremely annoying. So annoying. Do me a favor. You contrived miscongeniality. Okay. You're great. You're a great person. You're lovely. Get off the show. Take your hot water and your lemon and do it somewhere else because you haven't been this the whole time. And now you're amping it up. Feels very forced. And you're doing it about something that's so insignificant. And so if we're going to take down Heather Debrough, which I am completely fine with, let's plant something on her. Let's frame her for something. Let's do something that's actually entertaining.

Exactly. And then, by the way, did you notice in the same OTF, like, seconds apart, she takes a second swing? She says, all the girls are in Palm Spring for Vicki's celebration of Vicki's proposal. It's like, oh, wow, coming for the queen. I just, I could you put it very eloquently? It's like this is not who you are. Right. This is extremely forced and it's unwatchable.

Please get off my TV. Ruby, thoughts on meatball. Just, yeah, these are my thoughts. Be yourself because you're actually a likable person. The second you cross over the line, you're eligible to be fired at. Yeah. It's very easy to literally fucking annihilate you. Do not.

Just stay in your sauce pan and simmer there, right? And there are people. There are plenty of people who are willing to go over. over the wall of the trench. I mean, most of the time, you know, they're, they're dead. But there's a lot of id there, right, and a lot of ego. So somebody like Kelly Dodd, right? Kelly Dodd was made for going over the trench, right? She's, she's okay doing it. Meatball, stay back. Just pop open some cans of sausages and give them to whoever's hungry, you know? You're one of the least interesting human beings on the planet on earth. And then you with that, Travis,

guy are like negative interest. I would rather sit in a room with nothing in it for an entire day with my own thoughts than be forced to have dinner with those two idiots. That's how, yes, Ruby. No, no, Pat, I was, please finish. Oh, that's how, yeah, anyway, that was it. I was just going to say the, Pat said, you're the most uninteresting person. And then Travis, and I was going to say, but actually the most uninteresting person I think is probably Travis. And there's nothing wrong. It's better to be uninteresting. Right.

All right. So let's talk about white slash pretty privilege. In sharp contrast to the season I mentioned earlier with 2020, Ebony, K. Williams and Leah, Carmela saying I love getting pulled over. A little tone deaf for the Bravo network. Then we've got Heather DeBrow talking about her. you know, spectacular encounters with the police. And I'm just like, these, they're just trying to make us hate them.

That's what, that's what they're doing this for. I mean, Carmela says, I love getting pulled over. It's so exciting. And then we find out that there's expired registration on the vehicle, which, listen, once again. It happens, but it's a mess. It's also a tell. Now we get to Lakein.

to rib's thoughts on the way they just yeah i don't like this and also i i am a um i'm a white female i anytime there's a cop behind me panic sweat immediate fear what kind of a lunatic likes getting pulled over by the fucking police outside of a playboy model i mean maybe maybe it was fun to try to you know hypnotize a cop or something maybe it worked a couple of times and you had a fun chunk of that. No, like try a bartender. Yeah, I do a bartender. We get to Lakeita and we need to ask Shannon which room she wants because the EMFs,

they're everywhere. And the same thing happens at the other house in Solfang. And this is just a nightmare to try to recap because we're bouncing all over the place and also nothing's happening, right? But we're just getting settled in. So we sit down for a little cake or whatever outside and. Vicky talks about how she hates Jenna D-N's. She hates Jenna.

It says Jenna's D-N's. He's dumb. Okay. So they're all kind of questioning. They start talking about a proposal. Vicki's annoyed by the conversation at the table. And at some point remarks that she's, she refers to Jen as low-hanging fruit.

which is essentially her saying she's dumb, so I don't need to talk to her. Sure. I don't, I forget who takes offense for it, but apparently Jen didn't pick up on it initially. Ruby, can you clear this up for us? Yeah, it was, I believe Shannon that says, like, I wouldn't, I mean, I wouldn't really like, you know, I wouldn't like that very much if someone said that about me. But the best part about it is that Vicky does purchase equity. I mean, okay, whatever. It's, okay.

Okay. Okay. So I said that he was tall. I mean, my bad. Right. No, no, no. You called her a moron, but you also said, I'm not going to be like you.

If Mike proposes to me, we're going to get married the next day. Do not. Vicky, do not. So we, Mike heads over. He's going to be spending a lot more time in this Palm Springs house and you're not. No.

Because he's going to own it. He's going to own it. And he essentially owns it now. He heads over. And I'm just wondering why this man is in Vegas. Now he's in La Quinta. He seems like he's always there when the cameras are there. And I'm very leery of this guy. Okay, Ruby, do you agree with my take? He's there to protect Vicky. And it's not that she doesn't want him there. She's actually invited him there.

Yes, I think they both enjoy keeping tabs on each other, genuinely. He's not there. because she didn't, I believe she invited him there. I think he should have declined, because the audience must watch this and go like, what the fuck? Yeah, I don't think that there was an invite extended. I think that she, uh, I think that he said, I'm coming.

But here's how you don't get talks about on the show, Mike. Be invisible. Right. Try it out, Mike. So we head out to the golf course. Vicki has to write an email and because she's a boomer. I think she's a boomer. Um,

she has to dictate the email. email and cannot type it out. So everyone, because Vicky has to write an email, everyone in the car has to shut the fuck up because she needs to not use her thumbs to type. She has to yell it into her phone. All right. Let's remind the audience, Vicky got laid off from this show for seven years where she got to do all the work that she wanted to do. Now is the time where this is your job. Am I right? I think this is a tactic whenever Vicky feels uncomfortable or is annoyed. She just goes, I'm a business owner and you guys don't do anything. And stares at the laptop.

Right. And just to avoid small talk in a car. She's done this for years. Vicki's performance overall this season, I thought that she started out really strong and fun. And she's just been waning ever since. Ruby, how many boobs would you give Vicky this season so far? 11 total. She's not good at.

She also wasn't even like doing a good job at starting other people's stuff, really. She's just being mean and then pretending like she's not. Like she was like, hey, Jen, I think you're fat and ugly and I don't like your hair. And then everyone was like, Vicki, that wasn't nice. She was like, oh, what? I didn't say anything. Okay. So you don't like my here either.

It's fine. I mean, come on. Right. I would argue, though, guys, what she's doing here where she actually essentially loses her mind. You're right, Pat. It's, it's, it is classic Vicky. Thank you. You're right.

And that if it were set, if it, okay, if we were closer to like a 60, 40 of more of this and, and then then I'll take the other stuff. But it just feels like she's kind of on about 8 to 12% of the time. And we need her to be screaming about family vans more than that. I need more. Crazy. So we do some golf lessons, incredible television. the ladies bike around solving and Carmela lets Heather know that the daggers are out for her Carmela goes i think everybody is talking about how you're a two-faced bitch the person that cares

the least about what Heather said is the person Heather said it about that's right that's how you can tell that this is a horseshit storyline also their little conversation here between Heather DeBrow and Carmela is an alliance conversation they are now together and dare I say they're much stronger than Emily and Meatball. Well, Emily and Meatball, I think Emily will sell meatball down the river for a fucking stick of cotton candy. They'll sell each other out to stay on the show. Okay.

So... She doesn't eat that, but... We're now about three-ish episodes in on Gina's attempt to be relevant. And she is going to achieve this by going after Heather over this real estate thing. Now, the golfing thing, it's pretty much just the ladies making sexual innuendo jokes. And that's really what Emily and Jen are here to do. Jen is here to be kind of gobsmacked by the lack of morals and ethics by some of the other women and to also joke about sex a little bit. Emily is here to just be so, she's almost like the wind of this

show. She's just everywhere all the fucking time. But she also joked. about like balls and dicks and stuff like that. She's very loud presence on this season. Emily does anal. Jen, I do think, I think, can I ask you a question? I believe her gobsmackedness is still somehow genuine. It is. You think, okay.

Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally genuine. Heather. Jen, we adore you, but you guys. got to understand APRs. It's got to be something that you get at some point. One other thing is taking place here as they're going through this little golfing thing. Shannon Bador obviously goes and peas in a stranger's house, but the girls are annoying

the living fuck out of Vicky. Vicki, this is working its way up. Yeah, Vicki's like, we are at a nice country club that the public has access to that during the summer, it's $35 tea time. So you guys need to be on your best behavior. And she's starting to get, you know, it's a little bit like, don't do this on my turf. Don't do this shit on my turf.

Okay. I think too, Dylan, that she's scared, this type of behavior will get back to Mike Steve Brooks. And she does not want that either. She's so, I think they have a really psychologically abusive relationship. They're really weird with each other. It fucking freaks me out. Shannon walks into somebody's house to take a piss.

This is just one of these bedore things where you can only watch a panda chew bamboo for such a long time, right? I think that we've done, I don't know, seven, eight, nine seasons of the bamboo chewing. And for the first three, we're like, this is the most lovely thing. But now I don't fucking give a shit about your antics. Here's the, it's not even going to be a season, but it's going to be a fun storyline that we'll all get to watch is how fast Shannon goes after Bravo when they fucking fire her. The circuit that she'll be on, the book that she'll write. Right, right, right. The lawsuits that she'll file.

I don't believe how. I'm not kidding you. I genuinely think, like, I hope her children are better with money and they're saving their shekels and they're, not going into credit card debt because I believe if Bravo does that, she will be six years away from getting three DUIs and going to jail. And there's a different kind of parallel event. But I would say that the biggest impediment to Shannon doing all the things that you just listed, which I do think she would come after Bravo. Who's to say how far she'll go? But the things you listed all require some degree of vitality and motor, which I don't think Shannon possesses.

Well, there's an ongoing lawsuit that's taking place this week in New York against Andy and Bravo. And if there's any haymate out of that, you bet Shannon Bador's taken notes. Wait, by from who? From still Liam McSweeney? I believe so, yeah. Yep, the judge let it go through. So it's in trial. They've done discovery.

Who's Lee McSweeney? What season was that? Leah and Ebony, Leah. She's suing Bravo? She's been suing them for like a hundred years saying like Andy, they like made her sobriety bad. I do not know the details of the case. I honestly, I shouldn't. But what she has is emails with Andy personally and text exchanges with him personally, which you never want to come out in the public.

And this is Andy party Andy from 15 years ago. Oof. Less careful Andy. And some would say in public because now he has a boyfriend and he had given away a dog when he had his kids. And now he's reclaimed the dog and he's doing a bunch of publicity like, hey, look how settled down I am. And people would say that that's classic like I'm establishing a new persona as kind of a settled down chill guy. Yeah. We love Andy.

We do. Yeah, it's hard for me to hate him. So keep coming, everybody. Good try, I guess. You swing at the king. You best not miss. All right. So Vicki's growing very, very upset, but we get to Matt and Vin.

Ah, this was the last place I had dinner when I was in Solvane. Oh, really? Did you get four orders of steak-freets medium? I had breakfast there. It's at a hotel called Lansbury. Probably the second best hotel in Sylvain. So four people are going to order the same dish. Are we at a beef dip stand?

No. You fucking lunatics. Go ahead. No, so I've actually stayed at this hotel for a wedding that I had to go to. No, it's not a beef dip stand. Is that what you said? Yeah. It's a beautiful, beautiful restaurant. And again, unless you went here and you were like, man, oh man, I really need this one, this one dish or else my day will be ruined.

There's a full menu of things that would have been completely appropriate for them to order. It's just one of these kind of moray minefields where, you know, you may want the steak frets, that's fine. But if somebody that you're closest to is really committed to it, you simply have to back off and go elsewhere. And if you're the fourth person at the end of the, or I would say the third, if you're the third person and the two people have gotten steak frets, you have to get off the Titanic somehow. But I would say that if you're the fourth and the third order is the same thing, you now can't get. anything but the steak frates. I mean, we, we, we, we just have to complete this circle now,

but it was an insane moment to me that everybody got that. But the main thing here is, the matrily sits these women in the middle of this restaurant. I mean, quite literally in the middle of this restaurant, which is a bad idea. If you are, if you want to protect the serenity of your fellow diners, but if you want to make a good TV, then that's exactly where you put them. quite the conversation that takes place at this table yeah we're stuck here between heather really liking her or maybe carmel says i don't know if she likes me or if she's just a really really good actress about your thoughts on heather de bro being a really really good well she's a decent actress and yes of course she's fake on this show um she's actually a pretty

miserable angry person in her own right i have that on uh from a personal note of someone that had to work with her for a number of years. Her and Terry are both awful people. That being said, there's a lot of awful people, but she's still a pro, she's still a professional. And she absolutely thinks Gina and Emily are gross. And she is fake as fuck, but Meatball, you're annoying, so she's right when she says that.

And by the way, it was so funny how they're able to get, like, imagine a real friend of yours at a dinner table says, I don't know, I think you might just be fake as fuck. And then you're able to just get past that in five and a half minutes. You have to be fake as fuck in order to get past that. Exactly. And not really care what that person thinks of you.

Oh, for sure. Because of a real offense, you'd be like, do you really think that? That's horrifying that you really think that. Is this just a TV thing? Yeah,

it's just TV thing. So Vicky versus Carmella. Carmella has gone back to this bag a couple of times. Carmel goes, listen, you know, I mean, look at Joe Biden,

right? Oh. You know, you just get a little. little shaky when you start, you know. You know, at a certain age. It's kind of gross. But then we get to this accusation levied by Vicki.

She said, there's nothing in the pantry. There's something crazy here. There's nothing in the pantry. Ah, this is when she became Inspector Gadget. Yes, Inspector Gadget, known by children all across the 1980s and 90s. I think, I think that's when it was, right? Dada da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da inspector gadget Yeah now he was a man who

Had all of his arms and legs ripped off in some Catastrophic lumber processing accident or something like that But yeah in their stead a bunch of really cool gadgets And if you watch the movie with Matthew Broderick it was Andy Dick Who got him those prosthetic metal arms really? Yeah he was doing crack when he did it Yeah You're welcome

We're going to put a fucking helicopter on your head, okay? Can I suck your dick? You have a drool. It's come. Bitch. Pat told us. What? Yeah.

Go ahead. Yeah. Pat told us one time that the biggest way that like the customs agents get the night of day fiance people, this is kind of similar to this, to this way of thinking it's not the big you know like when's your anniversary it's what color is the bath mat in your bathroom that's right what color are your kitchen floors and that makes me it's a similar type of thing that you're like well be careful because if you really if you want to get someone you're going to have to get them and the pantry having no food i mean that's it's not a bad way to be like you don't live here

except the pantry did have food until you say get on face time right now and show this dumb lying old, old fucking person that I do have food and I'm still hotter than her. That's what she said. Yeah. And she did have food, but I also will not be gaslight. There's something very odd about that house. There was. Something very odd about that house.

The reformers in the living room. There's a hollowness to it. It does not feel lived in. No, it does not feel lived in. One last note on Meatball and HD in this whole nonsense. I've mentioned this. I get how people buy these houses. You could.

That house couldn't feel lived in if you lived in it for 100 years. It's just one of those houses, you know? Yeah. It seems like a second home. Yeah, you'd have to bring it a horse, I think. For sure. Sorry, go ahead. No.

Well, H.T. Heather DeBrow does something that just this is how she lasts on the show, which is apologize, own it, and then ask for forgiveness, which in the reality world is a version of catch and kill, which I don't know if you guys. know what that is in the media business, which is you just, you'd buy a story and you, maybe it doesn't apply here. But my point is.

Yeah, I mean, it's catch and kill, but you see how the sausage is made. Right. But there's nowhere else to go with this. Once HD has apologized, owned it and asked for forgiveness for what she's done, how could this continue on as a storyline unless the person is extremely annoying and goes,

well, I'm still kind of bothered by it. I mean, when we look back on good, seasons of this television show, there are through lines of conflict or arcs that we remember. This show has not one yet. Not a single fucking one. That's why let's cast different cities with people that know each other. And when you start running out of the authentic kind of funness of a city, you put it on hold. Think about the quality of cast member between we've got Emily and Gina on Orange County.

Now, I know new hire, but still, Rachel Zoe and Leah Remini? Yeah. We're in single A and the MLB. These are just two completely different worlds of entertainment, depth, interest, all of it. It's just like, what are we fucking doing here? Ruby, go ahead. I was just going to say, we have somebody like Lisa Barlow coming back in two weeks or whatever,

a week for Salt Lake City. It's difficult to garner and to galvanize a group of people around this when we know, you know, it's like if I had never had dairy ice cream, you know, oat milk ice cream is great. It's delicious. And then one day you walk into basketball. Robin. And you look at your parents and you say, you're fucking liars. Right. And I hate you. Right. You go, you go, you go, have you seen M. Night Chambi Man's the village? And they go, no, but that's what I've been living in. Right.

You fucking assholes. All right. Let's wrap up the episode of Vicki losing her mind at Lakeita. It starts with a nice night swim. Um, there's a fucking filthy napkin on the bottom of, uh, the pool. Kind of got blown in there with those strong winds. Yeah, a lot of strong winds. A lot of strong winds, a lot of golf courses around. Vicky, at one point after her and Shannon, kind of flop their way into the jacuzzi, Vicki says, I'm bored. Not to be too negative, but Vicki, so are we.

So are we. Go to work, Vicky. Now, we talk about Vicky and Jen and low-hanging fruit, and we press Vicky on being a cranky hag. And Vicky gets mad, and she goes inside, and she's mad at Shoehury. Shannon for letting the women speak to her like that, as if Shannon is supposed to be some kind of bulletproof dummy for her.

And there has been, we have an issue with modulating or assessing the tone of things that are set on this show, right? So last week we had, or when we were in Vegas, we had Heather telling Vicky to stand down and it was way out of long. and Heather was confronted about how inappropriate that was. And we're all sitting here going, what are we talking about? Now we've got Vicky saying to Shannon, those people can never say things that hurtful to me ever. We're in a jacuzzi on a weekend.

No one is saying anything that hurtful to you. Shannon did not step in front of any fire whatsoever. It's gaslighting, Mama. The audience has no clue what's going on. She even acknowledges it. Um, they're like the age of her daughters. She does not. These are like kids to her talking to her.

Right. At trying to essentially picking on her or that's how she's, uh, taking it. And this is fucking getting under her skin. Shannon Bador can come for her and she'll take it. Tamrack can come for her and she'll square off against her. She doesn't even want to get in the same ring with these two because she doesn't think they deserve to be there. Is that a good take, Ruby?

Yeah. I think that Vicki think, I, I, yeah, I think it's. a combination of her thinking that she's so much better than them and also her living in fear that if they speak to the fact that yeah we don't have to work as hard as you vicky look at us we that's our currency your currency is your brain my currency is my tits get over it sorry to tell you um and though uh she's she doesn't believe that like i think vicky thinks that she's as hot as jen is um and that jen in her aging will not be as successful as vicky and as a result someone And like Shannon, who's a, as we've said, just a mess and a half.

She's like, oh, I love her. Let me keep her around because she's always going to be better than Shannon. I mean, my God. Yeah, there's this weird thing where you go, how are you so delusional that you think that you would be exempt from the kind of commonplace of a Bravo television show? Like, you've been in and out of relevancy. You've been in and out of this show and work and getting divorced and having your life. ended like why do you think that you are exempt from being in drama with with the other housewives and then to stand up say everyone get out of my house while it's entertaining it's again no one

knows what's what's going on it's just bizarre so there's no cohesiveness to it at all um i don't even know she she can finish the season i mean i don't know that it's safe for her to do so. For her, you know, I think it might do some irreparable damage to this lady. So just get her off, right? Let her go. I think Mike is ready to take her place. He really wants to get in there.

I will say this. I'm going to make a prediction. This is officially Vicki's last season on Real Housewives of Orange County. She'll do girl trips and whatever reunions and stuff. This is it for her. Good. Well, listen, that's the end of her. Yeah, she runs to her bedroom.

Mike shows up once again and then I think Gina and Mike goes in does not say anything to anyone walks inside and she's at this point taking her mic off which you fucking what the fuck is wrong with you taking your mic

off no one is that interested in what you are saying to that fat man but what we're really not interested in is wondering about what you and that fat man said I hope Emily and me ball hop in a car and over and take off that would be hilarious me too so fun uh get in the comments let us know we thought about the episode we'll be back next week with more i'm dylan saying goodbye

pat say goodbye bye guys ruby bye bye bye bye bye