Another Below Deck Podcast - How TikToks Can Hurt | RHOC S20 E4

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

Pat, Ruby and Dylan are back to break down TikToks, parenting, friendship, boxes, coffee, Scarface and more from Bravo's RHOC.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

So Tamara is going after Heather. She has a moment in her OTF where she says, I think Heather is really fake. And that is like Satan calling Hitler evil. Okay? That is fucking crazy. Crazy talk. Hey, everybody. It's bad TV.

We are here to break down the real housewives of Ollenge County. Not sure why I said it like that. I'm sure that Patty's here. Great to be here. Ruby is here as well. Joining us from the United States of America. Hi, Delha. How are you?

Can you throw me that water? Yeah. Thanks, dude. Who's was that? I don't know. Okay, listen, we're here to break down the OC. And before we do that, we should mention that, what do we have, we don't have anything of Patreon.

Oh, don't say that. remind the audience. We got APS there, man. We got APS, we got PMZ. We got to do a meetup soon. Oh, let's do a meetup. Yeah, we got to do a meetup. Okay, we'll get a date set for a meetup.

You guys tell us what you want us to cover. We got ladies, sorry, we got Real Housewives of New York coming up. We have Dylan wants to do this thing, the double lives of suburban wives. Yeah, fuck yeah. I'm so excited for that. All right, guys, check that out and let us know. That starts, I guess, on Sunday or something. Let us know if you want us.

to cover that. We'll do that and put that behind the paywall. Yeah. And we'll also go watch Dune. Dune three. We'll tell you about that. But that's not until December. Okay. Little tease. That's what I'm saying. It's a little tease. Ruby, what's going on with you. You got anything going on? I am having a great day. That's really all I can say. Just a great, great Friday. And I'm not even being sarcastic. Magnificent. It sounded a little sarcastic. Yeah. Do you want to plumb that or ask her what's going on? Everything okay, Ruby? I'm honestly, it's just shocking to me and to both of you that nothing is wrong

except for the delay in our talking. But no, I'm just having a great day. How many DCs have you had? None. Oh, my God. That's crazy. All right, listen, we have a lot of shit to fucking talk about. And we have to give our tits.

straight out of the gate. We are here for yet another season of this, and we're still doing this, and it's still 37 tits for me personally. I want to kind of try to soften up the... I thought our scoring rating system was oranges. Ruby? No? No. What is it? Tits. Oh, go ahead. I give it 37 tits. I think that, you know, there was, there are a lot of kind of cooked things in this show. The, the conflict between Heather and Jen is just something that is so Orange County, right? So making a mountain out of a molehill that nobody,

really understands or cares about. Vicky is a welcome addition to this show. I'm so excited and happy that she's here, as is Carmela. Now, the purse thing, that's, I don't know how much legs these ladies think they can get out of this, but I think that they're way over shooting it. Oh, you think so? I certainly do. I give it 37 tits. Oh, we're on episode three, and it's been mentioned in every single episode. Ruby? Yeah, this isn't good. The purse, the purse has, has no legs. The purse is a fucking amputee. I wish they would let it rest. They won't. Two more episodes at least.

Yeah. I didn't know that Michael, Vicky son was living my dream life. I'm so happy to see him. I believe he is not seeing Brianna in eight years because of her lovely, lovely husband, who he can't speak to. And that's that on who you. So we should talk about the connection really quickly. Ruby's, yeah, that's really bad, actually. So what's going to be happening on the end, she's still, yeah, this is, hold on. Hang on.

So what's happening on Zoom right now is that Ruby sounds like she is a war correspondent. and they're being bombed. Yeah, I think we're going to continue to try to do this, but it just might not be, you know, a thing that's happening. Hopefully, yeah, I mean, see, hopefully it just gets a little bit better. Ruby, talk about your Diet Cokeless. Great day or the show one more time. Let's just see.

Okay. And how are the bombs now? Now, it sounds clear. Yeah, it sounds clear. It sounds clear. It sounds clear. That sounds clear. Yeah, we're safer.

Yeah, we're safer. Okay. Yeah, how are your wounds and what did you think of the show? Yeah. Thank you, Dylan. My wounds are okay. I'm patched up. I don't, like you said, we need Vicky and Carmela to breathe life because without it,

we have absolutely 12 breasts. 12 breasts. Okay. Um, this is tough. because I want to continue to recap the show, and we must. We have to. It's just part of our slate of programming that we recap every year. But yes, storylines like she gave me an expensive bag, why did she do this? And what do you think about this, Meatball? Don't you think this is weird? Because that's what Emily does. Emily says to Heather DeBrow, don't you think it's weird,

she gave me an expensive bag? And Heather Brough says, I don't know, I don't care. Hmm, okay, let me check this with Meatball. Meatball, what do you think? Do you think that was weird? Yeah, maybe she's trying to buy your friendship. And then Emily goes to a group of other girls and says, did you hear what Gina said about this purse thing? She thinks, uh,

she thinks Carmel is a showy whore. Yeah. Yeah. Can you believe that stuff? Um, it's really pathetic. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Extremely.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it beats Emily's typical storyline, which is every third season. She's on a weight loss journey. so much better. Yeah.

But yeah, this is horrible. You look great, Emily. You look great. This is horrible. And I give it zero tits. Wow. That's a really low tits. I'd give it minus one if I was allowed to.

You're not allowed to. And you know that you're not allowed to. Okay, Pat, where do we kick things off? We land on me. Ball's house. And we learned that Meatball has another passion besides being the most basic housewife in history. Catty Paddy's here, by the way. She loves doing TikToks because that's what you love to do. Well, she says when you love what you do, you never work a day in your life. Also, when there's not a single living female in Orange County that would ever be on this show, you get Gina on your television screen.

You know, my favorite thing about this whole moment was Gina kind of stumbling on a financial model of just being a big old goofball. And she, I think at one point says, you know, a lot of people don't know this, but you can monetize TikTok and Instagram. Is that right? Oh, my God. You know. And she heard Shannon Bador is not, you know, she's got a pretty big following. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, this is great. We are now in the world of Bravo in Orange County where we have to have women rent houses in Orange County that live in different states to be cast on this show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And now Carmela. Yeah, again, it's Kirk Douglas getting wheeled out on stage. Yes. Okay, Ruby, thoughts on this is why we have Emily and this is why we have meatball on our screens. Well, it's also why we have euthanasia. Well, some places do. I'm talking about the show.

I'm not talking about anybody on the show. I'm talking about the show. And I was, God damn it, that Facebook post that said we're too negative. Ruby, giving someone a $3,000 bag that you do not know, let's say you're worth $50 billion, your thoughts. Just weird. I don't know. I don't think it's weird if you give someone a $3,000,

dollar bottle of wine, but I still think that's kind of inappropriate. But a bag is just extra strange. I don't know. The only thing that's weirder is that they care at all, right? Yeah. My thing is I don't, I don't really care how much money you have. Okay. It could be a couple mill, could be a couple bill, could be a couple trill.

If you don't know someone, I don't think you can go over $500. I think it's just nuts to give somebody a $3,000 gift. Okay. I have thoughts. One is it was absolutely to make a statement that I have money, you poor, poor people. Sure. Secondly, I believe it was a re-gift. Or she had two of these same bags.

She did not give a flying fuck. This was not like she went to a store and purchased this. This was in her closet and she said, all right, get me a gift bag. and she threw it in there with one of her use vibrators, which, by the way, Emily should thank that fucking gift because now she can have sex with something that doesn't smell like a double double.

But also, like, you know, maybe she can have something that doesn't demand to, you know, and I don't need to be crass about this, but, you know, maybe we can try a different entry point. Whole. All right. So we got, we've got an invite from Tamara. Now, there are evidently murderous roving cartels in Vicki's swinging community.

That's what she yells out when they're all trying to be quiet and hiding. She loves it because the more cartels that are there, the cheaper it is to get her feet sanded out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll pay you later. That guy's not worried about it. His child's been kidnapped. It's very dark. So we talk about. door on social media. But I would like to get to Tamara and Fernanda. I remember Fernanda,

gracing our screens. Ruby, do you remember Fernanda? And what are your thoughts on the beautiful Fernanda? You couldn't forget her. She hasn't aged a day. She looks incredible. Her and Tamara definitely engaged in a lot of sexual activity. I do believe that to be true when she was married to Simon and I think that Fernanda should say Tamara, you know, give me $500,000 or I tell it all. I'm going to take it a step further. Really? I believe Fernando looks better than she did 15 years ago. Sure.

She looks better. Yeah. You know, it's a marvel that some women get good work and some women get such bad work. what the fuck did carroll radsville do to her fucking face people are saying she looks like stephen tyler i i stephen tyler should be extremely offended by i haven't seen it oh my lord but you know it's you would think that it wouldn't be a subjective thing although it is aesthetics or um you know it's a multifaceted kind of thing Ruby,

not really. Not really. Save the podcast. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I don't think I can dig us out here. But what I can say is,

the, the darkness of one's soul, I do think contributes to the decay of the out, of the exterior, right? So, Fernando, I do think is probably

just been being a lovely, beautiful, gorgeous, healthy lesbian for the last 15 years. And it shows, you know? Yeah. But Tamara.

Well, but Tamara looks. great too. Pat, look a little closer. Don't blink and she doesn't. Seriously. And she can't move very well. Her face.

What is she almost 60? I think she looks phenomenal. And I hate her. I'd love to say horrible things about her. Dylan, save me. Help me. No, I can't. I'm throwing you rope.

There's nothing. Pull me out of the pit. There's nothing. You're throwing me rope. I'm in a pit. I'm throwing, someone left rope down. here. Oh, really? And I just really quickly with the rope that you're using, Pat. Didn't catch it. Oh, dull. Yeah. Throw it back. Throw it. Throw it again. Leave it down here. I mean the fucking

sorrow. Go ahead, Ruby. Yeah. Do you guys remember the, I'm so sorry to say to talk about this, be seen from Viva Labam where he is in the snakes and he's trying to get out because I watched it recently and it's still one of the funniest things that just that's any, that's any. I don't know that that's from Viva Labam. Wasn't it? No, that's a jackass thing. But, but, but, but, um, but I do. But I do. I am reminded of Vito. You'll remember Bam's uncle with a lazy eye. I think he had a photographic memory I learned recently that he was, he had a beautiful mind.

He was a giant short-tempered man with a lazy eye. But I think he was a genius, which is kind of crazy. Anyways, can we get, let's get back to the show. Shout out. leave being Alabama lovers because that was a magnificent television program. Groundbreaking. Just incredible. All right.

So Tamrat, Jen, Heather Debrough, they chat about their fucking kids. Jen shares about how Grayson is picked on at school and how it made it really upset so much so that Gray Grayson needed to hold her for three hours while she cried because it was so upsetting for her. Yeah, cut to Grayson going, can we please, can you let go of me? Please, can you let go? But yes, there was a lovely moment where Heather and Tamer, go, you know, there's no rule book on this.

There's probably, there's actually, there's probably several 70,000 books written on this exact topic. Yeah, and Anthropic is actually chopping them all up right now. Ruby, go ahead. I was going to say, as a non-parent, which is, I'm a useless person to discuss this, but it's kind of like those things where you say, like, I'm not sure how to do this, but I don't think it's that way. Yeah, yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, but I love that Tamrat, though.

She goes, uh, look, kids are in different stages of life. For example, my daughter, Sydney, she stopped talking to me when, when she realized that was a monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yep.

Barack Obama's first term, actually. Hey, can we say that, um, Heather frames, uh, Bador's intervention in a very, like, um, we see you trying to do a bit, but that's actually like, not okay to do. She goes, we need to talk about

Padora's intervention. You can't talk about intervening on someone who everyone knows is a drug and then switch it to social media. We can't do that. That's right. Okay.

Bador's doing actually a lot better with the booze this season. I haven't seen her topsy-turvy at all. I think she's not drinking on filming days. I don't think anymore. I'm serious.

Very smart of her. Very smart. So we get to, were the TikTok intervention. And that's when Tamara says kind of out of I it's another diamond. It's not even left field. It's another fucking diamond. She goes, you know what? I actually want to talk about how hurt I am by your TikToks. And yeah, we fight about that for a bit. It's almost like they said, chat GPT, another like I guess new technology for old fucks. Um, um, Yeah.

What is the lamest storyline we could create? And then you spend about 42 minutes just trying to get the chat bot to whittle it down. No, no, no, no. The lamest. More lame. More lame. Well, uh, how old are you guys? Our average age 58 and a half.

Talk about how you're disappointed about TikTok. Ruby, thoughts on Tamara here. What I, the first thing that popped into my head was it wasn't to baseball from another diamond. it was like a like a beach ball or something so wildly just what the fuck could we possibly don't care and also still don't care i think yeah i think that's probably actually correct 100% a plus the women accuse heather of being a people pleaser who runs from conflict and heather says under fire i would like to i would like to present to you to that i i

disagree. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. First off, this is the first season ever, and I, while it is a cook storyline, that someone is coming for Heather Debrough. Heather Debrough is the fakesst person. Tamara is coming for Heather Debrough.

Well, now she smells blood in the water. She's like if a weakling like Jen will start calling her out on her bullshit, what Jen says later on, and it's a bad analogy, I forget with metaphor, whatever it is, she basically says she never gets her hands dirty. Yes, she stays out of the fray. She only films when they agree to show up at one of her properties where she can brag about how it's kind of true. If she's showing up to a remote, she has this kind of like exhausted kind of. She almost walks like a zombie a little bit. She's just like, what am I doing here? I'm above all of it. There's a moment. I think that we're setting up this season for Tamara to go after Heather Debrough. And I just want to say,

really quickly. If you don't put the bows on everything at the end of this season, we're not coming back. We're not doing season 21 with Tamara and DeBrow. There's left over tension from season. No. Yeah. There's no more making up. No. No. Clean house. Shannon Bador can't come back. No way. Speaking of Shannon. Hello, Archie. Oh, that was Archie. He said she does drink on filming this. Archie's dead. Voice from heaven.

Powerful. So Tamara is going after Heather. She has a moment in her OTF where she says, I think Heather is really fake. And that is like Satan calling Hitler evil. Okay? That is fucking crazy. Crazy.

talk. All right. Can I just say before we move on, in addition to cleaning house, someone before this season ends needs to address the fact that a mere one season ago we were unioned with Tamara being

a rat to the press. Where conversation? Where did it go? Where did it go? All of the stuff. That's how like, that's how rat like Tamara is. she she was completely fucking ostracized by that entire group everyone hated her everyone on production

hated her here she is completely comfortable with all of that being not discussed she's just going to play like this is her life it's so gross this is where you have established cast members that have been doing this so long they have agents and there are contracts and there are things that you will not talk about you think Mary Cosby with all that bullshit. You think she came back for that season? It wasn't discussed that you can't talk about my fucking church. Do you think for one second that wasn't putting her contract?

Right. Like, they will not talk about things or they'll say, I'm out of here. Who knows? I think Tamara's in. Mary Cosby is a star. Tamara judges somebody that we do not. Now, I'm not saying that Mary Cosby is a good person. She's actually, she should be thrown in prison.

But she is a bit of dynamite on television. Well, I'm just saying this is why they should feel the need not to reboot shows, but always, always hold it over the establishment characters. Yes. Newbies are coming in. Yes. We're always developing new talent. Ruby. Also, here's the thing that I will say to Bravo.

We can go to any place. I don't care. Go to a new place. Go to a random town none of us have ever heard of. Go to a new state. Like, we proved with Salt Lake City in Utah. In Rhode Island. And Rhode Island, like, people will bring shit from everywhere.

So leave them behind. Say goodbye to New York and O.C. See you later. The Rhode Island should have scared the living shit out of O.C. The Real Housewives of Cordelaine. Oh, my God, Dylan. Come on. Real Housewives of, well, Revia.

This fucking whore over here. Revere? Revere. What's Revee? beer. It's a little shit kicker town south of Boston. No, no, they have to be. No, it has to be pretty. It has to be rich, Patrick. You can't just have trash people doing that. Oh, it's where Whitey Bulger lived. There's still bodies buried there.

Is it nice? No. No, that's gross. No, we can't do that. It'd be interesting. No, but it's not the right one. One of the housewives would be in jail. You know, I'd love that. the real house she'd face time her like stint on the housewives the real housewives of rena nevada they're saying reno is actually having uh like a a renaissance a renaissance because renaissance sucks yeah Vegas sucks no but it would be good to see people real housewives who actually have to harvest their own food and i'm not talking about a garden i'm talking about

you know, kind of digging bugs out of the ground. That kind of thing would be a kind of new take, at least. Real Housewives of Anchorage. Right. Right. I mean, we've seen Housewives fight. We've seen Candice and Monique grab each other, others' hair. We have never seen full right hooks throughout.

Or we have, have we seen Housewife take down a caribou? No. With her mouth. All right. Let's get back to it. around the OC, which is gated areas with large track homes down the street from strip malls with steakhouses with neon signs. Yes, that is what it is. And Vicky's son returns and says this place is fucking awful. I hate this place. But before we do, we have Shannon Bador. Yeah.

FaceTime's her daughter, Sophia. Her daughters are always thriving. Always. And by thriving, you mean have a glass of wine in their hand. Yeah, Roob's. Now, all, first of all, they're in their 20s, their young girls. Everybody should be drinking under that age. What I wanted to say was that I love how Shannon will never let them understand or forget that their lives and their happiness is only because mummy gave it to you. And I was like, here's what, here's what I would do.

Here's what I would do. Here's what I would do if I were them. Stop answering her calls. Stop it. Live your lives. Stop it. Right, right. All right.

Ruby, point well taken. But every time mom checks in with Sophia, and I've been tracking this for a very long time, Sophia is either getting ready to go to a rave, is about to walk into the rave, or is past the morning of the rave, and her voice is a little tore up, okay? My point here, the booze bag apple isn't fallen far from the alcoholic tree. We need some parenting here. Yeah. We have a, we have generational.

alcoholism. Shannon Boo's bag. Her dad is a fucking alcoholic. Yeah. Yeah. Why is she not watching this? Because she's an alcoholic, Pat. She's too drunk to watch it. That's why. Also, I think- What a fucking stupid question. She's a fucking alcoholic. She's, she's drunk, man. You know the answer to that. But also, um, I think you're conflating all three of her daughters, actually. I think one of them raves. He said you're right. Sorry, Arch. What about Pat? Archie's dead.

Oh, a voice from heaven. Powerful stuff. What? Okay. So we get to this sit down with Vicky and her son who doesn't want to be at this restaurant with her. You know, I get like irrationally triggered by wanderlusty people. This kid's energy is fucking annoying. Okay.

I don't know. I never liked Michael. I don't know what's going on with this. the fucking the daughter and the husband. I'm sure he hates the husband. Can I coach you up a little bit? Hey, coach. These two losers are so supported,

are financially supported by mommy. Right. And they hate Mommy for it. Okay. I think they are the first generation of children, and this has not been examined yet because we're still in the stages. Their entire lives were on TV or under the microscope of TV.

Yeah. The show launched in 2006. They were both like, teenagers or entering high school. They actually were on the first season of called children of housewives. What was that called, Ruby? Something like I don't. No, I don't know.

Oh, it was like they did like one or two seasons. Their children had their own season, like a spin-off. Anyway, they hate their mom. That's why they live as far away from her as possible because she did such a great job parenting. She floats both their lifestyles. Right. So they hate her so much that they will take all of the money that she is willing to give them.

I do think Brianna actually is a very successful nurse and has a lot of money herself. But if I were Michael, yeah, I would do exactly this. I'd say, thank you for the check. You are fucking horrible, mom. I'm going to Spain now. Goodbye. He works for Cota. Brianna hated her mother so much that she said, it's her mother's worst fear.

She said she was going to be a Marine in the military and go off to boot camp at some point. just because she knew that would scare her mother so much. I forgot what's easy. Why hasn't? Then she just married one. Then she married one. Why hasn't? What's up with Michael and the husband?

Michael and the husband. The husband is a very intense, very, I believe, super conservative Marine. Ryan. Got it. So there's no reason to not see your sister and your two nieces and nephews for eight years. This kid has a functional. Mushroom a day, wander lusty, I'm in Spain kind of attitude. And it's just like, hey, you got to grow up at some point.

Go ahead. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I think they, I'm just personally triggered by this because I said he's living my dream life and he is. But I think that a lot of it is honestly, and I could be wrong, Brianna probably placating being like, it's easier if you just fucking don't come. Okay? Which is not okay.

But again, be careful with who you marry. Do you imagine not seeing baby Lucy for eight years? Dylan, she moved into a crib. and I bought a flight home. So no, I can't. She's full-blown walking now. I mean, it's just unbelievable. You want to know what this kid, Mike,

did when he quit Koto? He started gambling online. And he said that was going to be his future. Okay. He's a loser. All right. Okay, all right. Vicki is attempting.

I really don't like this guy. She's attempting to, now I understand it's complicated because Vicky is Vicky and it's not my family. But from the outside looking in, Vicky is trying to tell her son that she regrets her past decisions and that she loves him and that the happiest moments of her life was when she was his mom.

And the kid is just hammering chips and salsa, completely checked out, does not give a fucking shit what this woman is telling him. And Vicki is really struggling because I think she's getting to the Twilight years recognizing why did I divorce that guy? I destroyed my family and there was not any real reason to do it. We could have gotten through it. Well, I don't know what happened.

Why did they get divorced? Because they were cheating on each other. She cheated on him. He cheated on her too. Right. But I believe it was in response. And I think that a lot of this is Michael's just like, it's your fucking fault. And then I watched you marry Brooks almost.

And then I like, what are you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of a person. I don't care that you're sorry. I want to eat my chips and salt. Yeah, I want chips and sauce. I got it. It was hilarious when she was dating.

I forget what he was married to the guy who had this dating. Anyway, she was married to a guy who was going to run for governor at one point. Right. And Mike went, uh, her son went online and said, I hope you're not funding this campaign mom. Because I think he was concerned like you're spending my future money. Hmm. good for you mike um okay so we have got to get to this meeting with Jen and Tamrat Jen and Tamrat um Camilla arrives and they're already primed to discuss this purse thing and kind of go in on her

and when Camilla gets that is that her name Carmela nope I was going to say I'm not sure who that is okay got it it's Carmel it's so she arrives and so does 2007 she could have been on rock of love by the way this is my girl Heather McDonough who pointed this out, so I'm stealing this. She's holding on the 2000s with her look. The horse that gave his life to create that horrible wig was born in 2004. Caddy paddy here. Horrible wig.

Horrible wig. She shows up. She goes, I'm sorry. Are the men in black hunting you? Because you sit down and you go, can you just get a steak and chop it off for the three of us? okay no i i it's just it's a it's an odd order but they go can we get other things too um listen i love the order i love a chopped up steak cut up steak it's great i don't know what's what she sits down and we talk about the purse okay we talk about the purse can i ask can i ask is she

is she secretly bankrupt and poor or is she just rich i don't know she's really rich okay yeah you think so normally when they're bragging this much out of the gate, they're poor. No. They're in bankruptcy. Yes. She's not. Patty's going to make a call here.

We pull back the curtain. I think there are some financial issues here. Maybe. The daughters are brats and she's spending way too much money on them. And obviously, a lot of people have said what Patty said here two weeks ago, Lynn Curtin, there's shadows of this. And that was also a fake, rich, like kind of facade. We'll see.

That was a husband, though. that was his. But what I, Mike, is there any way she got a ton of money from that guy? He was a legitimate sports player. No, no, no. Mike Tyson made $100 million for one fight in 1985 by 19. You can burn through a lot of money quick. Yeah, you can't.

He's worth $40 million. Who knows if he burned through it? They are not technically divorced, so she still has access to it. I think that she's wealthy. If she didn't even have that, she seems to be in a flipping business. with quasi-expensive houses, who knows. But her rent is $35,000, and she's buying people $3,000. And those are stupid moves that make you lose money quick.

Right. So there's this thing with her where the women have to coach her up on how to boast about your wealth. You can't overtly do it. You can do it in annoying kind of under the radar ways that everyone picks up on very, very easily. but you can't be this obvious that you're bragging about how much money you have. $35,000 on rent. And as Pat mentioned earlier in the episode, we really see how pathetic Emily is here in this moment because she forces

meatball to say something about a purse she doesn't give a shit about. Then Emily takes the words of her best friend stated and takes them right to Carmela, who she doesn't know, and says, I just want to let you know, that girl over there who I would die for, she's been very vocal about your gift. Oh my gosh, talking so much shit about you. Yeah. She's an ulterior motive, actually.

That's what she thinks you're up to. Isn't that crazy? My best friend who I die for said that about you. It's so nuts. Yeah. Lain cuisine was a little hot on the lower back that evening. Oh, my God. I don't eat lean cuisine.

So we do this thing where she's good at her job. Fantastic. Great. Proud. Can we get to the boat? basically, yeah, can I just say really quickly? The only thing that makes me side a little bit with Pat on the, I genuinely don't know if she's bankrupt or very wealthy,

is to brag about, I think at one point she said that she sold like $100 million over the last 10 years. And I was like, even where you live, oh, no, that just that's a little that might scare me a bit. That's all. So we'll see. Right. Sorry, break down a couple things here.

So her tactic to, uh, for real estate is to not overprice the real estate. Yeah. Is this the next day? Oh, this is the next day. Are we going to get into that? Is that the next day? It's the next day. This is at the house.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That, the, the house she's, she meets with, uh, I believe that is this the seller? Yeah. Ignacio. Ignacio.

Let's, let's let's let's meet you. It's name's Ignacio, this guy. Okay. All right. This is what we do here. This is what we do. This is what we do. I want it's curiousistic.

We're not going to overpriced this motherfucker. We're going to come in reasonable and we're going to make up for it in the comps. And also that will create some demand. What do you think? What does that mean we're going to make up for it in the comp? The comps is where once they say we want it, then you start going, we want all the furniture. Oh, God.

And they go, no. And they go, there's a Ferrari in the garage. We want that too. And they're like, ah, but you're, You're already in a year. Oh, here he is. Ah, Mr. Kalen. Mr. Kalen has arrived.

I got to say, I'm very excited to see Kalin because Kalin has been sent on a mission. Ah, yes. Oh, he got the retro Sherbert Selsey. The kid came through. Holy shit. Hi, okay. Did you get yourself something? Okay.

May I continue? Thank you, Kailen. Love you, Kailen. You know, this is funny because this is apropo. I love new players in an old space. an old space that can bring new ideas, very much like coffee, right? Or caffeine, caffeine. Wait, okay, so old players, Ruby, did you see her?

What he did? So I, what I just happened to me was I couldn't be more confused. Oh, sorry. Walk me through the coffee. What are you saying? Caffeine, caffeine, I meant caffeine. Caffeine's been around for a while. Now we have Celsius walk in here.

This is like a little soda thing here. And it's got caffeine in it. Yeah. Right? It's an old, it's an old play on caffeine. but now it's been re-bottled as this thing called Celsius. But how does that pretend to Ignacio and fucking Carmela? I was saying Carmela.

She's telling Ignacio, hey, this is our game plan here. She's a new player to real estate. And she's like, this is the game plan. This is how we're going to sell this motherfucker. Patrick and I just were handed a sparkling sherbert slush. All right. All right. Here's another.

All right. It has no calories. All right. BJs. You can always innovate on that. My wife most recently has created the new BJ. It never happens, but she pretends like it does. The phantom job.

Yeah. And she makes it like it's totally normal. How do you do that? I don't know. But it works. Wow. That's amazing. Does it work?

It works. I'm going to take her out to dinner after this. Yeah. Yeah. Very expensive. And I'm like, it's like she gave me a BJ. All right. So the ladies hit the boat.

Tamara and Shannon are doing well. I think we owe this no respect and say whale watching didn't happen. You're talking about you want to do a Rodney Dangerfield kind of thing here. No respect. Ruby, thoughts on the whale watching expedition? You haven't talked in a while. What's going on? Okay.

So I've folded underlined. I could not care less about what happened on this boat. But if you ever get a chance to see whales as a human, as a person, see whales. They are, I do believe they are one of the most majestic creatures that I've ever seen in my life. And I tried to see them, I think, four times and I failed. You know what? And then finally did recently. We got to do a trip to Issa Mujaris because we can do whale sharks.

You can swim with them. Really? Yeah. I'd cry and I'd love it. She's his best friend's husband has a whole thing. You take the boats out and you go. A whale shark. Yeah, whale shark.

They're the gentle giants of the sea. They only eat plankton. Anyways. Yeah, I mean, I'm not getting in the fucking water with them, but I would. What are you talking about? I go in their mouth. Why are you talking about, man? A whale shark?

Yeah, whale shark. They're the nicest animals on the planet. Not nicer than dot. I got to do a dot drop. Okay. I haven't done a dot drop. All right. Can we go to Tamrats party?

Yeah. Shannon. Well, first off, can we just say that Vicky is just like a 10 out of 10 aggressive towards Carmelah? She's a whore. Like, what is going on? All right. They said this. Multiple cast members said this.

Vicki is notorious for hating new cast members. She has always been like. But right. Specifically here, then you add on to it. This woman is appearing to actually have money. She is hotter than Vicky. She is younger than Vicky. And she can get any man faster than Bickey that has ever existed on the planet.

And to Vicky, that means that she should be eliminated, I think. Just off the face of every. Yeah. So that's where we are. You're talking about like a Thanos kind of thing, right? Yep. All right. Let's get to the Puerto Vallarta party.

Shannon. What? I said it's a cartel party. already doing. Oh, Sicario. Remember that? Great.

Who directed that? Deni Vell Nuth. Are you kidding me? Dune. Dune guy. I don't think he's doing the third one, though. Yeah, he is. No.

Yep. No. Yeah. Why do you keep being wrong about this? I wish Kaelin was at that computer. I'm looking. Of course he's doing the third. It is him.

Okay. Wrong. Wrong. So we get to the cartel party and Shannon has honestly, um, say hello to my little friend. Okay. Uh, yeah, Cuban drug lord Mexican cartel. What, whatever you're going to do? So, um, I don't think that it should be.

illegal. I think it's it's silly to have laws that are kind of like micro governing things that are not important. But Shannon Bador should not legally be allowed to have this much Latin American decor. I don't think it makes it I don't think it makes any sense. I think it's wrong. Can I agree with you 100%? Why do you have so much of it? And she's moved so many times recently. It's like she carried it with. I don't get any of that.

Yeah. Let's limit. Let's limit storms to three sombreros. She can't have 50. All right. So you want me to lay a trap? I'll lay a trap. She's eating.

Okay. Anyways. Shannon is. over early in her shoulder pads. She is here to mend fences with one Tamara judge. Cautiously. Cautiously. You know, I don't know if I'm,

can I say the hero shots are so confusing. Are these the ones getting out of the cars? The ones getting out of cars. Lots of foot shots. Yeah, a lot of foot shit. A lot of low angles, a lot of slow motion. We have them. Let's talk about the actual drama that unfolded here at this here,

cartel party. Vicky is very tired. And Shannon says, that's because Mercury's in retrograde. And then we start to talk about Carmela. Of course, got a backstap before she arrives. Or she's not going to make it. She's not going to make it. She does not live here.

Ruby, thoughts on Vicki's accusation. of Carmela being a fake real estate person? You know, if I were Vicky and Carmela were Carmela, I would be equally as insecure and would probably say similar things. That's what I'll say. Yeah. We get to Jen and Ter, Jen and Heather. This is screeching halt this nonsense.

I know. I don't think anybody can really make heads or tail. of it. It's one of those things where, like, you could say to somebody, okay, do me a favor. Can you just slow down and break down what's happening? And then at the end of the two-minute explanation, you would go, oh, nobody needed that. No.

No, I didn't. I'm going to go grab some more hors d'oeuvres. I wish Jen would just say what she really wants to say, which is, Heather, you've been on this show for 10 years and you basically get paid to just be propped up and you never have to fight. Producers allow you to show off your properties and show how rich you are and how awesome your life is. And the rest of us, I mean, I have to live in this guy's house who is probably going to be in jail someday. Yeah. And I have to like pretend that I care about my kids. Yeah. And my life sucks so I'm pissed

that makes sense so you suck yeah and in addition though like she is being a two-faced liar you know both of them are though right I don't know that Jen is really

Dylan I don't think Jen possesses the ability to do it willingly I do think that Heather is operating from a Mickey level. Well, let's get to the game because Tamara has, of course, cooked up a game to detonate any and all goodwill in this group. That being a comment card game, leave your anonymous tip, and we will read it out loud.

Everyone has a box dedicated to them. It's almost like Andy had a meeting this year, and he said, producers of every show on Bravo, more games in 2026. Yeah, there's a lot of games in 2026. Tamara is up first, and I think Tamara did this so that she, Tamara did this game, right? And she went into the game and saying to herself, no matter what anyone says,

put on a smile so that you can do this turning a page Tamara bit. What do you think? She did it. Hot take. I like it. I agree with you. But the problem is, is Tamara has no plan on leaving this franchise or reality TV. Her whole shtick is being someone that does do OPP research on you in ruining your life.

So any kind of like, like, re-PR, I'm a nice person now. No, it's not going to take, which is why she needs to leave. Tamara is a little bit like a white walker. have to light her on fire or kill her with a valerian sword i'm not saying she's i'm just a metaphor for what yeah the production needs to do i got it okay i'm not talking about lighting tamer on fire i'm not we know you're not but all right so next we get to emily emily is uh an analyzer she takes it in her shitter which we're not judging that's completely fine say can it's less offensive listen what two consenting adults do in their bedroom is not not just not any of our business it's not a

problem okay if you guys want to do stuff with your butt with your butts then do that bring a raccoon in the back probably care no no because the raccoon cannot consent to that yeah scared and yeah he's like Like, this is the raccoon that Shane and Emily bring into the bedroom. Guys, guys, I know I roll around in trash, but this is a bridge too far. And he's wearing a tuxedo. Yeah. There's a little band, a littler raccoons in the back.

They have like little kid instruments too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very cute. Shane's all offended. Is there any in and out? Because the raccoons are his size. That's the main reason. All right.

So we get to Vicky, who gets one. And she goes, I'm not going to say this. I'm not going to say this out loud. The comment card is from Emily, who says, she's a bit of a Debbie Downer. And Vicki says, Vicki says, I'm actually not a Debbie Downer. I'm a positive bitch.

And Emily goes, all right, fine. And she goes, you'll see it. I promise you, you'll see it. I love, Vicky has at least a fucking showmanship to her. She is entertaining. Can I tell you, there was footage of them filming this season, filmed by a fan, of them going into a restaurant to film, the cameras are following them in, and women are outside the restaurant waving at her and screaming.

And Vicki, like, she's a rock star. She just waves at everybody and says, hi guys. Yeah. And then goes into film like it's a fucking job, like she's a rock. star ready to play. Vicky shows up for work. Emily, who's been on this show, fucking phoning it in.

Ruby, how long has Emily been on this show? I think at least seven years. Eight seasons or something. Yeah, it's a lot. Unbelievable. She wrote Debbie Downer to create a storyline. One of the most unremarkable two longevity ratios we've seen.

I mean, that's... She's seven seasons. That's a lot. Okay, so we wrap things up with Heather, who's up next. I don't want to discuss it. I want production to do better. If you guys have thoughts, that's fine, but I'd like to get to Tamara and Shannon. Yeah, let's do that.

Okay. I mean, my God. What a breakthrough. Yeah, this is a really big breakthrough. Now, Shannon has a card that says, very kind, but does hold grudges. And Tamara goes, oh, oh, that was, I wrote that one. And this will give us an opportunity to weep together. Tamara says that when I got that text from you,

seeing if I could order you around tomorrow, it made me so happy. Wow. To know that you were going to be here. I could tell you what to do, where to put stuff and it reminded me of what we had so long ago, the Trace Amigos. To my little friend. Trace Amigos.

Ruby. Okay. So here's the thing. I think that we're treating this. I hate it. Isn't that the name of the group? Yeah, Trace Amigas, the goss for females. But the offense that Tamara has committed multiple times, whether it was being a rat to the press,

whether it was saying that Shannon was a fat drunk who was never going to get a man, It's not like she said she was a bitch or something behind her back. These are like really horrific things that this woman has done. And yet, Shannon still finds herself being like, do you need my 83 sombreros? Because I got you. Wow. It's too many sombreros, but you can't have enough. Get in the comments.

Let us know what you thought about the episode. Join along in the hate watch with us. Don't be like, well, I really want these people to be. be more positive about the show. It's an impossibility. So join in the bonfire. Okay. I hope you guys have a great weekend. I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Pat say goodbye. Bye, dude. Ruby. Bye-bye.