Another Below Deck Podcast - Mama Kelce's a Fan | Traitors S4 E2&3

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

Dylan and Pat are back to break down machiatos, lies, shields, fan girling, flames, jam jam and more from Peacock's The Traitors.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

She's not fan-girling over the dude from One Tree Hell. No. And that guy's not on the show. But she has fangorled over that lady who's all wrapped up in that all love brings us closer with Justin Gworini lawsuit. You know that one? No. What's her name? No fucking Ryan Reynolds's wife.

Blake Lively. Blake Lively. She's rubbed elbows with her. Blake Lively is a bigger celebrity than any of these guys. Oh, yeah. Okay. So she may not have. met the Obama's, but she definitely met Blake lively, and that's a big deal.

It wouldn't be funny if she looks at Steve from One Tree Hill, though? It's like, oh my God, I am fan-girling over you. You're on, I know, Machia Grande. Hi, hello, and welcome to another brand spanking new episode of the, oh, I was going to say the Patreon exclusive. No, this is free. This is bad TV. And we are breaking down episodes two and three.

That's right. of, I can't believe we didn't say it in the first episode. I think we did. The traitors! Unbelievable. So it is season four of our favorite reality television show. I am Dylan, that is Pat. Great to be here.

Ruby is not joining us today. She has not seen these incredibly entertaining episodes. Pat, why don't we go tandem? Two and three combo together, shoulder taps hit me. Okay, I will say my heart was pounding during this first. roundtable. And that's what this show does to you. Oh, yeah. Who are they going to banish? Yeah. I, I was kind of shocked who they banished because at this point, we did not know who the secret traitor was. And I've always wondered when they cut to the, the trader who's like signing

the papers, the documents, who I was sure had to be a guy because no one's, no female's penmanship. Is that horrific? Because, I mean... was how my friends and I wrote in the seventh grade. Oof, I hope you weren't writing like that. Yeah, we weren't. That was a blind kid that had gotten hit in the head with a rock. And they asked him to write his name.

Yeah. You're saying concussed and unable to see. That's right. Right. I couldn't believe it. It was disgusting. Spoiling alert. It was a female that wrote that.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, that's probably arthritic hands. Fair enough. Well, anyway, the first roundtable I could not believe. We can talk about who they got. Yeah. Portia.

My God, she was not good at this at all. No, no. One of the worst we've seen. Yeah. Yeah, one of the worst we've seen. And, you know, we like to mention the kind of hallmarks and customs throughout Trader's seasons, stating the obvious, dumb clues. and the bad pronoun use.

Pronown use is, it's a hot button issue in our culture, and it's a hot button problem for Porsche. She did it four times. I killed him. We killed him. I'm a traitor. You can't say those things.

You can't do that. You can't do that. You know what? To be fair to Ron, who I love, he's like a cuddly little bear. I love Ron. I can't believe they made him sit in that cage for that long. I know, and he was completely fine.

By the way, I know he's alone, but don't treat him like he's the fat kid that didn't get picked to be on the basketball. I mean, he was picky. Oh, my God. He was picky. From that island? Lord of the Flood. Yeah, yeah. You know, he was cast out to a leper's island all on his own.

And you know what? You know what I like to say about Ron? He was resigned to his fate, but was not resigned cowardly. William Wallace was drawn and quartered, gourd with his. his intestines ripped out bravely. You know, just because you lose doesn't mean you have to cower. And Ron Funch's did not cower. And he said, well, all right, at the end of the movie, the braveheart dude, what was his name,

William Wallace? William Wallace. You'll never take my freedom or something. They did. He got his arms pulled out or something. Ron Funches at the tail end of three when all the traders are staring at the trees, he says it was one of the most uncompelling. You kill me.

I'm a con for you. you better kill me because I'm a hot your ass when I get back in the house I love Ron Funches I'm sorry if that's racist that impression but I just I'm a big fan I I laughed a little yeah because I don't think you're going to hurt anybody no I'll kick you over yeah I know he couldn't hurt a fly no no no too fast also I am so impressed by that nobody Rob that traitor that came out of nowhere from Love Island no idea who he is but god if pass Patty was playing the game. If you want to know how Patty would play the game

if he was chosen as traitor, which I don't want to be a traitor. If I get cast, I want to be a faithful. I don't want to be a traitor. But if I was a traitor, I played exactly how Rob is. You're going to get cast.

You think so. Yeah. You know, I said this. I have a casting agent following me. They want me on the show. We'll see. You have to do the interview process exactly the opposite of the way you want to do it.

Well, I'll say this. If you're listening to this podcast, traders casting people. I don't want to have to go through the application. I don't want to have to just, we'll do a phone call and you got me. I'll do it. Okay. Yeah, seriously. But that's it. I don't want to have to go through this whole rigumeral bullshit. No, no, no, it's insane. I'm not flying anywhere. I'll do one video. Do not ask him to write a paragraph on himself for really anything. Yeah, don't ask me why I think. Right, right, right. I don't think anything. Just call him, endure his pitches on why you suck at your job and how to make the show better for, what do you say,

six to seven minutes probably, and then just cast him. It'll be the best choice you ever made. Yeah, and definitely I don't want to be a traitor. Okay, let me wrap up my shoulder. We could start a hashtag. Patty for trader, no application, just calls. One call. No, no trader, only faithful. There you go. Yeah. Okay. And shoulder taps for this episode. Okay. And I apologize. I'm so bad at hashtags.

Okay. I want to give production some real credit here. Obviously, you got to, I don't know how much they talk with Mr. Cummings about who he's going to tap the shoulder on. You're talking about the host of the show on the coming. That's right. Yeah. Or does he get the choice?

Oh, no. No. It's thought about, right? Yeah. Okay. Tony Gilroy or whatever Fed producer is sitting back there. So pick Miss Kelsey, a wonderful old cookie-making grandma, who just kept saying over and over and over and over. I'm just fan-girling.

Ugh. I want to say this. Drives me nuts. There's something. She must have been really bad. I have real animosity towards that old lady. Hold on. There must have been something that they weren't showing us as viewers that she was really bad at this because almost instantaneously, there was a real movie.

there was a real movement to get her out. She was spooked. And can I say, I think it was a bad choice. I think it was too on the nose. And we debated this last episode. I think that the traders make these very, very obvious gaffs sometimes, being the production where you just go, you go too big. You go too loud.

I mean, she is such an obvious candidate for trader that she was D-O-A, frankly. Really? Now, if I was a producer, although I did love the choice, I'm going against you, because it was such a shock to me. It was such a shock to me, but it could have been editing and the people on the ground were clearly seeing something I wasn't. You don't know who would have been a great secret trader. Kristen. No. She would have, too.

Yes. Johnny where? The skater. Johnny where? I'm not convinced of that because him and that other skater are so convinced that they're keeping their. That's a good point. Their fellow cast members in the dark. Johnny Ware having to weather the friendship of Lipnicki could have been fascinating.

I think Kelsey was too obvious. Hmm. Dead horse. Guys, let me know in the comments if you think that the cast clearly saw something that they were not allowing us to see an editing, that she was totally bad at this. How many shoulder trips? All right, right, 14.

I give it 57. I thought it was amazing. That's what I meant to say. Yeah. I thought it was really, really good. The challenges were fun. Jam Jam and Michael Rappaport going at it was such a blast. And Michael Rappaport continues to be so fucking horrible at this game.

I mean, you know, I'll fucking tell you right now on my mother's fucking grave in Brooklyn somewhere under a fucking bridge with a homeless guy pissing next to it. Jam Jams a traitor. Dolores is a traitor. No, they're not. All right, let's get into it. Ian, Mark, Eric, and or Rob are up for elimination. Rob says the first person they named had to go and they're dead and that they're going to be playing blackjack with Jesus. And another.

I like that line. I might use it. Playing blackjack with Jesus. Well, I'm always saying roll the seven. Yeah, yeah. Playing blackjack. Yeah, but Jesus hated usury. So I'm not really sure.

And I don't know if blackjack's usury, but I don't think he'd be a fan. Well, Jesus hated gambling. Yeah. Oh, you said, okay. So we agree on our first name. Be like, well, he's up there mixing it up with prostitutes with Jesus. I was going to say. What the fuck?

Yeah, he's at a strip club with Jesus. And Jesus is not a good tipper. He's very, he's obsessed with himself. He's like, I'm Jesus. I don't need to tip you. Also, like, if you're hanging with him, you're like, dude, you just threw a dollar bill at her head. Right. Right.

And also, you smell. Jesus had to smell. Yeah, and then one time we were at a club, he's kind of a dick. He turned and he's like, that stripper's so ugly, she should be holding a mop. Okay. I was like, you're out of line, Jesus. Yeah, yeah. How did you start this movement?

You're so obviously such a rotten guy. And I want to apologize to all of the devout Christians listening. While I do think that really all the religions can dip into dogma a little bit too much, I do think that Jesus was a very unique and beautiful human being. And dare I say spirit, because he's God, right? But yeah, Rotten Tipper. So we agree on our first name and we get to our first breakfast. Lisa fucking Rinnick.

Rina. Iconically knocks on the first breakfast door. Rina. Rina, we're not going to, Rina, I barely remember that you did that. I'm generally rooting for traders. I can't wait for her to be killed, banished or whatever. She's going to be. Oh, she's horrible.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we recap the Michael Rappaport of it all. He and Candice are going about this game the completely wrong way, I think. Rappaport and Candice have both, I think, Rapaport and Candace have next to zero chance of winning this game. The producers gave the gang a powerful opportunity of breakfast to sniff Candice out here.

Portia comes in next to discuss the situation while Candace is not in the room and she doesn't bite. And this is where I'm talking about. Everything is curated and tailored down to the order of people entering breakfast. The producers have a lot of work on their hands because if you have a day's worth of narrative, the order of the people that come into breakfast is super important. Right now, they have an opportunity to. no information about Candace while she's not there. I love that you're bringing that up.

I've never thought about that. You know, as you're bringing that up, one of the weakest points of Porsche here and why she's a horrible player, you know for a fact that Candace said that when you were sitting in that car. The power that you have knowing that is clearly something is off. And if you don't want to bring it up in front of Candice,

that's fine. I get it. She's really good at arguing. and stating her case, but... Porsche is too. Have you seen her on the show? No, not really. Oh, my God. I mean, her only, like, her only miss cue was,

it was about six seasons back. They visited a place in Georgia, and she thought the Underground Railroad actually had a train and a railroad. A lot of people made a lot of fodder out of that. But she's come a long way. Anyway, she argues great, and she should have really gotten combative,

and made the case against Candace. I think so too, but she did not, and that is why she's horrible at this game and we'll be going home. Now, Derinda, Madam Bluestone Manor herself returns. I'm here! And she has her moment. I did it nice.

I want to see Durinda get Blackout. It's one of my favorite things. Oh, my God. I mean, can you imagine Durinda Blackout after a challenge or something like that at night, just walking around telling people? I wish Ruby was here because... I think you're a fucking traitor.

Everybody knows. you're a fucking traitor. I don't like you. Yeah. But the greatest footage and why they need to bring back Roney, because only all of us could laugh at a, at a ceremony to honor someone of sexual abuse, where three of the housewives,

and Ruby has done a great job of covering this, where the three housewives get in an argument in front of the girl that has, Unfortunately, her name is, and get in the comments, let us know. And I apologize for this, but it's like, it's like Braylin and they're fighting over. It's just, we need to bring it back. They were all drunk. All right.

Jam Jam was super happy that Rob is here. He's summarily sent home. But in this moment, Jam Jam is really happy that Rob C, a fellow survivor, a fellow podcaster, is here. I think that he plays the game a little bit too paranoid. You can see Robsie from the get-go, second-guessing people, second-guessing his second-guessing of people. You're talking about Survivor, Rob. Yes. Okay. That is, okay, I agree with you 100%. He should know better than to call out Candace later, I think it's the next episode about a kill in plain sight. Like, dude, keep it close to the vest. What are you doing here? He keeps it fair.

fairly close to the best. He only tells Tiffany. No, but he confronts Candace at some point. I don't think about that. But he's just, he's overall too squirly. He's just way too squirrelly. It's a nervous game. It's a nerve-wracking game. But Ian is the one that they choose to eliminate.

Tiffany speaks on his behalf. Big no-no. No toasts. If you want to win this game, no toasts, especially early on. Yeah. He was killed because he's too good. And that will be a running theme, at least for these. He's a little guy.

He's a little guy. A little guy. A little squirrely little guy. But I think that sometimes it really is a thorn in your side when you've won Survivor or Big Brother or whatever to come in here because naturally they're like, oh, well, we obviously, that person's good. You should come in off some dumb reality show that no one's ever heard of because you're underestimated. Tom Sandoval made it so far. He did, and he shouldn't have. Ho!

Ho! Ho! All right. So Colton is confused about... Well, he's getting suspicious about Tiffany making the big deal out of Ian's exit, which is a dumb clue. And that's a dumb clue. Colton, I would say that she's a good woman and wouldn't drag America on along with

a heterosexual quest for love when you're gay man. She wouldn't do anything like that. Three times. three times. So we say goodbye to Ian and Tiffany states the obvious. Someone here is a traitor. Wow.

Now we break and start to put feet in mouths. Porsche begins to claim to kill everyone. And they begin to catch wind that perhaps Donna if more than she themed to be.

Now, Champ sham. wants a shield and fuck everyone else. And, you know, he's one of these, like, he's one of these real charismatic sassy queens that, like, I think off the rip, you're like, okay, you're, you're, you're being pretty obnoxious and you're being pretty ruthless and you're getting in, you know, it's just, it's a lot. But he is, I think the biggest benefit to Jam Jam is going up against Michael

Rappaport because in this game, to play a ruthlessly selfish game outwardly, it's very, very detrimental to your hopes. You have to play it inwardly. Jam Jam is just like, I'm getting the shield, get off. You know, all that stuff. But him going up against Michael Rappaport

paints him in such a heroic light. And I'm rooting for Jam Jam Jam so goddamn hard. You wouldn't believe it. So, mission. Actually, I have to say, chivalry is still alive. to go for that shield there. Because at this point, as pointed out multiple times,

when you're going for the shield, it means you might actually be a traitor. It's all over the place at this point. Early on and earlier seasons of the trader, people maybe have not caught, didn't catch on to that. But at this point, it's meaningless. Why even go for the shield?

It's, I don't. Unless your head is on the chopping block that night. Right. That's when I think you have to go for it. If you feel the heater, the corner. Like Donna would have had to have gone for that. And we've seen,

we've seen one person, I think it was Kate, season one of Australia, get saved with a shield because she was on the shopping block. Correct. She ended up getting three more, whatever,

ultimately she was taken out. You live to fight another day and distract the flock of geese towards somebody else. So, yeah, I agree. But the mission,

Thrones have to be carried back to the, to the castle. Tea gas. Time to get a snack. They have gold bags and the person that sits on the throne at the castle will be shielded. Now, there are two tokens that stops that will rotate the thrones. Now, we get moving.

The shields get switching. Two people are very annoying about the shields. Colton and Jam Jam Jam. Stephen from Laguna Beach is starting to grate on the right away. Barista, Starbucks, Ventura Boulevard, and Coldwater. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So he says, I wouldn't want to take it from a lady.

I was raised right. my mom would be upset with me. Stephen, nobody gives a fuck about what your mom thinks about your play on the show. Okay, please miss us with that.

Jam Jam needs a shield as well. We end with 10 minutes left and Rappaport is really, really pissed off. Now, do you remember who gets the shields? Yeah, it was Yam,

Yam, um, and Caroline and... Wasn't Colton, right? And Colton. Yep. Rappaport,

I'm sorry, yeah. Colton, yams, and Caroline. Um, so we head inside and, and,

I can't. Money exchange thinks Donna is shady. Who is money exchange? That's from RuPaul's drag. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah. Monet exchange. Oh, sorry.

Yeah. Sorry, money exchange. Yeah. Thanks Donna is shady because she ain't given up the goods. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I agree. So Ron, unfortunately, is siding with Mama Kelsey and he needs to get away. Even if she wasn't secret trader, I think, you know, just get away.

it's too obvious. There's a wrinkle to who the traders would target now because Donna seems like she's a dead ringer for secret trader, so they can't go after her. And Rina struggles with this quite a bit in these deliberations, in the turret and in the banishment. There's heat on Donna. So as traders, if you think that she might be an ally,

do you make the attempt to politic away from her? Hold on. This thought process, as I was thinking it, is so dumb because you don't know who it is. That's what I was going to say. It's a mood point. Ignore it. Ignore it. Just do whatever that serves yourself. That's it. But Renna really made a thing like, I don't like Harry fucking Hamlin. Like you don't know. So who gives a shit. You idiots. It's the Lord's Prayer or it's not the Lord's Prayer. What is it? It's the drunk's prayer. Give me the wisdom to kill the people I know are faithful and not the other way around or something like that. Just move on. Now, a lot of the group grapple, and this was a hilarious that it was taking place with Michael Rappaport, they hate him. And he's playing this game so bad

that some of the gamers are like, is he playing this so bad? He's actually diabolical and a genius at this game. Yeah. That's what gravitates Tiffany towards him. Well, this was featured in the movie Molly's which is about that like hidden poker game sure there was a player that actually got everybody caught his name was brad he was so bad at poker they called him bad brad very very uh genius nickname yeah anyway one night he's so bad that he just threw down a card that no one would think he would and he won like a million cajillion dollars he threw the whole table off yeah and it just spun every Anyway, Michael Rappaport. Bad Brad.

Bad Brad. He's throwing a wrinkle into this game because they can't figure him out. Are we recording? We are. Okay, fantastic. So Portia continues to be an all-time dumbass. She says there's four traitors. I don't even think she's the secret trader at this point.

I think she's just terrible. Okay. In my mind, as I was watching this, I was defending her. I was too. But with all the other things that she's done, Just take it easy. Fair enough. But I was like, we all watch the show.

I would have been like, when we watch the show, how many traders are normally in the show? At banishment, that's when you can, yeah, make that case. By the way, she did not make that case. No, we get to our first banishment of the season. It's a crowded table. No one's really talking until Natalie. Now, Natalie pipes up.

What do you think about Natalie? I don't know yet. She's fantastic on Survivor. I'm not sure if she's doing a good job here. She is not going down a lot of good roads. I can tell you that. Well, she went down the Donna road. She did.

Fair enough. So Donna is targeted first. Welcome to the game, Donna. She starts with the sob story. You know, I'm all alone in this game. You know what? I take back what I just said. She is saying you're acting weird, Donna.

Yeah. I wish they would have given us at least one scene where Donna's acting weird. They gave us enough. She was, she, I'm a fan girling. And as you pointed out, I think the previous episode, you met the fucking Obama's. And I don't know if she did, but the people that that woman,

she's been ripping lines off. Jennifer Lopez is huge ass. Exactly. The people that this woman has, has, you know, rubbed elbows with because of T. Swift and. She's not fan girling over the dude from one tree hell.

No. And that guy's not on the show. But she has fan girl. over that lady who's all wrapped up in that all love brings us closer with Justin Guarini lawsuit. You know that one? No. What's her name? No fucking Ryan Reynolds' wife.

Blake Lively. Blake Lively. She's rubbed elbows with her. Blake Lively is a bigger celebrity than any of these guys. Oh, yeah. Okay. So she may not met the Obamas, but she definitely met Blake Lively, and that's a big deal. Oh, it wouldn't be funny if she looks at Steve from One Tree Hill, though?

It's like, oh my God, I am fan-girling over you. Yeah. You're on, I know, Machia Grande. Oh, my God. Dragon Fruit Lemonade. Hold the syrup. Oh, my God. It's Donna.

Steve. No, Donna's met Blake lively. She's met Michelle Obama. She's met, she has to have met Paul Rudd. Ice spice. Ice spice. hell. Boy, I can't wait to see that career flourish.

So our first banishment goes like this. Donna starts. Then Ron comes to her defense and a double-edged sword. Speaks up too early. But he does Candice's bidding. He doubles down on the Porsche thing and he runs interference for Donna. Candice, I'm sure, is a little iffy on Donna and like Rina thinking that she might be the secret traitor. Is that why Candice did that?

Well, Candice is going for Portia and Ron diverts the table back to Porsche. Okay. So that's where Porsche, I'm sorry. But really, really quickly, when you do that and you can never know that you're doing this. But the reason why I say it's a double-edged sword is because Ron Funches is being too loud at the first round table. I think you should probably say nothing at the first round table. But what he does is he accidentally,

he slides into Candace's favor because he's going, he's, marble mouth, he's helping her cause. When you help a trader's cause, traders keep you around. We've seen it time and time again. Zach Efron's brother and Boston Robb. You know, you stay by the trader's sides.

and they'll string you along. And then you can kill them. That's right later on. Sorry, that took an eternity. No, no, no, no. Okay. So this is what's fascinating about this.

So Portia is clearly not doing a good job here. But Candice defends. It starts to defend her. It was so weird. She defends her. And I'm like trying to think why she'd do that, except if she thinks she is a traitor. Now, to defend, I'm sorry,

this was my thought actually. Ron had he knocked a traitor out would have been the superhero of the night. And to be fair to him, this wasn't a dumb clue. He was actually hearing evidence. This was a great clue. And so I... Well, it's not a great clue. It's bad pronouns, which is a dumb clue. But it's all you have to go on. So, contextually speaking, it's a great clue because she said we. She said, I and she said there are four traders. We know nothing. I'm going with that. I can smell the truffle over there somewhere. And she did a poor job defending herself. So she did. So Michael Rappaport says we killed Ian in front of everyone at the table. You want to talk about slipping up in front of witnesses. You slipped up in front of everyone. And when he's called on it, this is where you're talking about the gamers actually just go, Michael,

just do us for just shut the fuck up just don't fucking keep talking okay as ruby said the hinges are barely hanging also wins the award for the most annoying player of the day like you are distracting here we're all trying to talk and you're just taking this off the rails to another direction we eliminate portion unfortunately for ron um you can't lead hunts this early on that eliminate faithfuls it's not a good idea um we get a very convoluted elimination tonight um um Do you want to take this? Well, so the reveal, she's a faithful. Now Ron has a target on his back, unfortunately.

And it's going to be Donna or Mike next. Because the way this works is they got a ton of votes. So what's going to happen? You think everyone just forgets this? And it's honestly, its destiny is going to be there because as we know, we just move on to a continuation of this. We don't go on to a mission. Yes.

but before we get there, we have the kill-in-plain site. Which I love, and I'm always wondering, producers are really risking all this production and ruining... It's so nuts to me. That's such a good point. Okay. So imagine if someone walks in on Rob lighting a card on fire in the fireplace. What happens? He goes, hey. And then they walk out and go, I just saw Rob.

Right. So he's a traitor. Right. Exactly. Or God forbid, Candice and him are in there doing it. Or God forbid, he's not a traitor. He's just fucking certifiably insane. And we got to get rid of him regardless. Yeah, he's like, I wanted to get rid of these records. Yeah. I'm a serial killer. It's unbelievable the risk that production takes with these games. But the game is this. There's going to be a deck or four cards of a shortlisted list.

they're going to be somewhere in this house. You have to find them. You have to burn the person that you want to eliminate in the fire of the breakfast room. Now, Candice, she's just, there's no way to say it. She's a bad faithful. I can, uh, bad traitor. Bad traitor. I cannot believe the conga line.

I would. Crazy. Like, I'm going to say Rob is a good observer of nonsense, but anybody with two eyes and a fucking brain would go, what is going on here? The bellhop bun, uh, bum at 7-11 could have sniffed this out.

Yeah. And he's not even, God, how has some jage? He's not even on this planet. Now, he's not even on this planet. Why are you doing a conga? I've never seen you do that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is so, it's just not a deaf touch. Okay. It's a club foot attempt to try to distract people. And surprisingly enough, it works. Now,

a good strategy, is doled out by Snake Charmer, who sits down with Rina and plays chess. He names the pawns or names the pieces, and they kind of, as best as they can, decide that they're going to eliminate Rob C. Can I say something? They did do a bad job when Tara Lipinski was observing them.

Right. I would have been pawn, your move, and they didn't. He was teaching Rina. They clearly don't know how to play chess. Well, we get to episode three and we take to breakfast. Oh, by the way, so Rob pulls this off. He pulled all of this off and thank God for Candice because Rob was on to her.

He did question Candice. They got so lucky here because Candice didn't know who they picked. That's right. And it just so happened that they picked the guy who, like the bellhop bum, thought that there was something iffy about. One last note before we move on to episode three. I wonder, because this house has that closet, which we'll get into in the bookroom,

which Tiffany and Michael went into. So clearly this is the same house. Don't go in there if you're not a traitor. If you're not a traitor, don't go in there. That raises suspicion dummies. Also, are these little picture frames always going to be there? So as a cast player, will you now open them on a regular basis to see if there's any

thing in there. Well, Patty would do that because Patty's a lunatic, but I don't, I don't think that normally they would. Let's take one minute so Patty can pee. Okay, back from Pee-Pee, and we get more of Donna playing the, oh, I'm just an old lady at breakfast. And we get more of Rappaport being the Tom Sandoval of the season. And who departs this morning, Rob C. Now, Candace raises a glass to Rob, shut up. You don't know, Rob, you don't need to do this. This is way too much. Too soon. By the way, another kill because he was too good. Too good. You got killed because you would too good.

Mm-hmm. So that was just a quick song. The Rapaport and Jam Jam Feud starts to ramp up again. And Rapaport wonders if traders can have shields and then says that Jam Jim is full of dood. Mm. Okay. Now listen. Go ahead.

Well, this is where Yam Yam gets a little ammunition against Rappaport. Rapaport claims to have been a fan of this show, yet he doesn't know obvious details about the show, which he'll use later. Yeah, he's a bit of an idiot. Now, Alan walks in again. Not thrilled with this outfit. Big Bird doesn't work,

and I rarely say that about Alan's outfits. But Alan could say, obviously, it was done in plain sight, this murder, which would, put Candace in the minds of everyone. So if Alan walks in and says last night there was a murder in plain sight, which he kind of alludes to but doesn't say it outright. Everyone goes, conga line was weird. Ah.

Ah. Nice detail, Dill. Thanks. But he doesn't. So it's a fucking moot point. I shouldn't have brought it up. Now, we get a bit of a bombshell. Banishment is happening now, right now, before.

the mission. Okay. Now, you have a big problem with this, Patty. Now, well, look, I love skipping a mission, or at least pushing it off, but, uh, and I love a roundtable, but it did throw the game off because it was less of a roundtable and more like a continuation of the last. This show was set up to have Mama Kelsey make it to at least the fourth episode. Because they said if you get through the next banishment, you will meet the secret traitor. Right. This was predestined to have the end of the third episode, end with a cliffhanger, Rob, Renna and Candace turning at a hooded figure.

But alas, it does not go that way. We get to the banishment and Donna just does not have the fucking chops, man. Because we've seen this before with checkout chick. You can't just, you can't just say. I'm a faithful and I'm so bashful and I'm such an old lady and you know it's just you need to give us more. But Dill, it's, yeah, it's you're already in the hot seat and you're fried. It's what took place the whole time before this that she fucked up on, which producers you did not show us because I was, I didn't understand it as I'm watching it as a viewer. Yeah.

Now, Donna does put up a bit of a fight before Banishment. she tries to start politicking against Michael Rappaport, which is a good target. But banishment comes and Ron is under fire. It defends himself very, very well. He just says, listen, she used bad pronouns. That's all we have to go off of right now. I thought he did great at banishment. Now, Donna is next up and still fan girling.

And she deflects to Michael Rappaport who delivers an incredible speech. And that speech goes like this. despite my giant fucking oblong head and my horrible attitude and that I spit on you when I talk if you're too close. I'm the hottest faithful that this show has ever had. Oh, good one. And if you want to eliminate me, you will eliminate the hottest faithful this show has ever had. Again, if we're in Tiffany's brain, it's just, just shut up. Shut the fuck up.

Please, God, stop talking. I wonder if Tiff is a little bit of a fan girl because she's the right age to have maybe like some Michael Rapaport films. Deep Blue C. She might have been 14 then. I can't really name me. A few good men. Was he in a few good men?

Ah, God. No, but he was in like the departed, departed, I think. Was he in the departed? I don't know. You might have been in the departed. Might have been. Yeah, bit player,

a funny guy, kind of annoying. So Rita brings up the conflict in voting for the possible secret traitor. Rina, get that out of your head. You have no control over that. Now we eliminate the great and powerful Donna Kelsey.

She says, I know I'm the sacrificial lamb, but you've got yourself a traitor. And here begins another time old trader tradition, that being the bachelor offering, getting heat and starting to get people behind him. Now, we saw this with Pilot Pete. Zach Efron's brother wasn't a bachelor, but he kind of slots into the, this role of handsome, soft white guy who's going to be the white knight in shining armor. Now, what invariably ends up happening, I guess that as Zach Confirons Brothers is a bad example of this, but what happened to Pete and what will surely happen to Colton is the ego of being a leader,

quote unquote, a leader will get to them. They will get too loud. They will fly way too close to the sun and they will be killed. That's right. Yeah. Colton will not survive this game. Absolutely not. You know what might happen? He'll make it a while though. I think episode nine. He'll get down to the wire. Yeah. I bet one of these dumb traders will recruit him to be a traitor.

Please do not. Alan kicks off the mission. There's an odd number. So do not be the odd man out. Poor funges. He's the odd man out right now. He's fucked. Because he was paired with Donna.

By the way, why not let him run and go get those skulls himself and see if he can pull it off? He's already doomed to be killed that night. Why not give him a shot to stack those skulls? Alan's a glutton for punishment. Now, Mara from Love Island is paired with Snake Charmer. I think she has the hots for him.

And I think he doesn't like foreigners because she's fairly flirtages with him. He's good looking. He can make out what anybody wants. He's so Alabama. Plus, she's a sex robot. She's programmed. All right. So the mission is here.

Pat, can you break down? I can break it down. Yeah, players in cage are a short list of forever. Two players, they've got to be loyal to each other. One is going to choose to get in the cage. They don't have to do anything. But the problem is if you don't stack those. goddamn skulls that you find in the swamp properly up to 10 in the time limit, you know,

with that Chiron, that person in the cage is up for murder. Yep. Okay, so you're kind of taking a chance there. Now, if you are Eric and you chose to pick, who's that skater guy? Eric picked the skater guy. The dude, the guy. Johnny Ware. Johnny Ware.

I'm talking about a skateboarder. Johnny Ware is going to go, I don't know, off on a little, I guess a hike somewhere for three hours. Johnny Ware was doing, I don't know, a fucking. and tuck everlasting in the forest or something by himself. He was so bad to such a degree that it is kind of unbelievable. And if I was Eric, I'd be really fucking pissed off. He seemed nice about it, but I would have said, Johnny, you belong in here too. You know what I would have done?

If he did that to me, I would have campaigned against him as a traitor because I would have all I need. He was so, he was so bad. He did it intentionally to try to get a traitor out or a faithful out. I don't even care. You were so bad and you fucked me. I'm going to fuck you. You showed up a second before the clock ended.

And did not put one skull on the thing. Other things, Yam is fucking hilarious. And Monet Dewey, he, they, she, fucking handsome is shit. I mean, the bone structure on Monet Dewey. It's just unbelievable.

So envious. Good looking. Bob saves Mora's life. And once again, we have a time old tradition of the traders. And that is referring to saving a life or murder and prefacing it with the word literally. I caught that. Okay.

I love that. We do it all the time on these shows. It's one of my favorite things. Now, who is in the cages? Eric, Ron, Lisa, Kristen, Dubai, and one other, I think. Eric, Kristen, Ron, Caroline. Yeah, that's it. Okay.

they're going to be tied to a tree and literally killed. Now, here we go with The Bachelor taking charge. Colton is on Tiffany. Uh-huh. He is like a bats at hound on Tiffany. Now, the thing about this is that he's completely fucking wrong, and he's high on his own supply. Now, it's only because she was going to work with Michael.

Mm-hmm. Okay, dumb clue. Dumb clue. Yeah. Now, Tiffany is keeping Michael close and accuses Jam Jam, of killing the gamers. And this is a good, this is a good little thing, but she's a game or two. So it's a little deflectory, deflective.

And Colton picks up on that. I don't care what you're saying, Delores. I think it's you. Okay. So we end with a cliffhanger. Who will the traders eliminate? Like we said, go ahead. Go ahead.

I won't come back to that else. You go wish I was gone. I'll come back. I'll kill you. Yeah. We might want to grab that as a clip sound effect. All right, so let's make predictions here, Dill. Okay.

Who do they kill? Because you could kill Ron, but Ron's probably going to be taken out at banishment. I don't think they kill Ron. I think it's too obvious. I think they kill Eric or Kristen. I think it's going to be Eric. Hmm. Yeah.

Mark my words. Eric is another threat, right? He's one of, oh, no. Oh, he's a rando. Yeah, he's a rando. No, actually, they joke. they're like, all these people are useless. It's like literally flipping a coin.

They're not going to rock the bud. I think they're going to go with Eric. Let's throw a rock and see which it hits. Right, right. I mean, listen, they might have been going for Ron in that in boldened speech he gave tied to that tree. Maybe turn them around. All right.

So you got to work backwards here. They're not going to kill Ron because Ron is going to be killed at banishment. He has a big chance of getting killed at banishment. Yeah. All right. I think they're going to kill Caroline or Kristen. Thank you for listening. We've got two more episodes at Batchel.

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