Another Below Deck Podcast - Moist in Amsterdam | RHOC S19 E16

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

Ruby, Pat and Dylan are back to talk about how Tamra is Jax, crumpets, love, boats, milkshake glasses of booze, a new cast and more from Bravo's RHOC.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Somebody comes up to her and goes, we can get you to a million followers. She's like, that is amazing. Here's the thing, though. There will be comments in Ukrainian underneath your posts. She's like, that's amazing. I've always wanted to be international. That's good for me. Yeah.

Cool. Also, I'm sorry to one more thing. When Emily, when, when, uh, bad. Go ahead. Oh, no. No. Hi, hello, welcome to another brand spanking new episode of Bad Television. I'm Dylan. That is Pat. Great to be here.

I have to think about that. Ruby's here as well. Hi, Jill. Hi, Pat. How are you? I'm good. People are stealing from the live. People are gambling. Ruby is having an absolutely amazing afternoon. And so are we. I think that the only thing that could even put a bit of a blemish on our day is just the quality of the television show that we're here to talk about. And I don't mean to be negative, but I really do root for this show to be better than it is right now. And right now, I don't think it's very good. I give it zero tits, but we'll get into it. Go to patreon.com if you want to hear us break down an incredible franchise of

this franchise. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We had to do a free one for you this week. but yeah our recaps of that are at patreon.com also traders is there as well patreon.com slash another podcast network and guys five stars kind words get in their reviews and comment everywhere Patrick what did you think about this episode and do you agree with me that this show is not filing on any cylinder it's not good I kind of miss sketchy Katie um but I'm really bothered by things that apparently don't bother other people I do not like Emily on this show. Me neither.

So contrived. A trucker hat that says wrong hole, but I still like it. Gross. Well, Pat doesn't like butt stuff. No. For him, if you want to get into it, that's fine. I mean, meatball being completely high and having to do the heavy lifting of keeping the drama going. Can't do it.

she's shroomed out she's shroomed out yeah by the way that strain of mushroom should be called confrontational you know how they uh name like gummies they're like yeah i think warm like warm fun yeah we can work on that it's kind of kind of goes against what you know shrooms people are like you know it's going to open stuff up and the colors and stuff and then you have one strain that's just called confrontational it's like what the fuck i honestly think i dropped a hit of acid in my junior year of high school that was what was called like confrontational or bad trip or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm walking out of a house and I looked down, it was like a hillside and rather than

gras being there, it was a bunch of daggers that I had to navigate through. Yeah. It definitely was a bad trip. Yeah. Bad trip, bad trip. Bani's having a bad trip. How many tits do you give this episode? Man, this is rough.

I was, by the way, were you guys shocked when they said, uh, next week is last, the last episode? of the season? No, I feel like we've been watching this for a year and a half. Hmm. Yeah, I don't know where they're going to go with this. Am I wrong? No, the thing that I was going to say is I actually, worse than Dylan, I'm completely indifferent.

I didn't even fucking care. Yeah. Wow. Actually, if you're a producer of television, when someone says, I'm indifferent, I don't care, that's the worst answer. Because some people hate watch things and then some people love shows. But if you're right there in the middle, like, I don't know, when it's on, I look at it. That's all the Kardashians have made all their money.

They're middle of the road. Jake Paul. People hate him. Yeah. People aren't like, take it or leave it. Yeah, you got to have an opinion. Yeah. A horrible episode.

I'm glad that HD is a total stoner, though. You can tell. HD is so much more fun when she's stoned. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to give it to, Ruby, what's our actual rating system? He thinks it's tits. Isn't it?

It is. Oh, all right. 60 tits. You have polluted it into some kind of 30 cc's of silicone at times. You've also said oranges, which is very cute, but it's tits. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's tits.

And ribs, your tits? Bad. No, like, what I did appreciate about Gina being high was when that baby started crying. And Heather was like, well, it's a baby. And she was like, I don't care. Man up. That made me actually laugh out loud. Right.

Everything else was a drag, but I believe that this may be just from a rating standpoint, the coffin. Nope, the nail in the coffin for Tamara. I don't. It's not even that it's too dark anymore. It's just like, again, I don't care. You guys are talking. Like, what the fuck happened to Gretchen this week? I don't understate.

And I argue on, like, was. Is it a pill issue? There was, I, I, and so tits. Genuine, from the bottom of my heart, 13. Yeah. Oh, hey, you know, I have this particular, her name's Minnie. I don't think that's a real name. She sent me an article about Emily Simpson and Shane this week.

It says, for closing on their $3.9 million Laguna Nigel Mansion, while husband Shane's company files bankruptcy amid severe financial crisis. says yes god have you heard that no i have not hmm you never know with these these people that's sad um well we'll mention this i was gonna say uh they have one less child they need to feed she's talking about are you talking about shame what are you talking about luke you don't have to feed oh my god okay no no they still do he's he's he's gonna die if they don't I'm pretty sure after 30 days evidently you can what what are you talking about we don't have to feed the child done okay um uh this is a facebook post uh from real housewives of orange county fan news oh so we're going to throw

just a few allegedly's behind it oh okay yeah big time and then move on because truly we we don't know everyone's criming you know yeah we're going to strap a football helmet on pop pop a lean cuisine right on the lowered back and we're going to throw some bowing away. Although, you know, Dylan and I were told about these these liking certain posts by Gretchen what, 20 weeks ago?

Oh, were we? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that was from a Facebook group. That's another thing like, oh my God, fucking Joel Olstein's wife doesn't like trans people? You color me confused. Right.

What did Gretchen like? We don't know. to be trans shit it had to be had to be because in the next episode Heather Debrough flips out flips out yeah yeah Heather one of you asked Tamara how she feels about it wait wait just really quickly just really quickly no but really feels about yeah um Heather trying to get her eyes to well when she was like Terry is there and Terry was like can you believe it I'm gonna go me Oh, oh, no, they didn't talk.

They didn't rehearse. Uh-oh. Yeah. So he's a great dad. With Tamara, I don't think that she's done, you know, Jacks threw Britney around and threw a table at her and domestically abused her and is a drug addict and stuff. So I don't want to equate her character to Jacks's, though it's not far off. Just them having their roles on.

the shows is very similar to me like it's not even that it's it's exactly what ruby said it's not that it's too dark which it is all the fucking time it's just gotten to a point where we've flooded the zone with so much horrible awful behavior that we're just like i the needle doesn't even move can we just get her off you know you know i think bravo has fears and hesitations now for doing a big overhaul on casting because they saw what happened with new york um but certainly let's at least three of the women cannot return oh yeah yeah for sure we got to mix it up and and then bring katy back yeah we need sketchy why not yeah yeah katy's a little i would be fine saying goodbye to katy but we begin the show with somebody who i think is on the chopping

block i think we're all desensitized to the zaniness of one shannon swarms padore i eat a crumpet I took too big of a bite She begins the morning with I think a milkshake glass of red wine And is talking to her daughter About how she's still high And then she proceeds to spill on herself I love her daughter's advice though

What's that? She's like mom start like get high You know it's fine I'll get over didn't she offer that advice I don't remember Yeah You know, she literally said you should go get yourself some weed to, to feel better. Yeah, well, yeah.

Hey, can I, personal story, because I don't think this episode's going to be long. Sophomore year. Well, we haven't talked about three seconds of it. We've been going for nine minutes. Oh, sure. Well, that's how we do it. College, sophomore year. My room, I, it was a, he was a drug.

He liked weed. And, uh, I guess the stems. No, no, no. One second. Thank you. Sorry, Pat, really fast. um were you about to say he was a drug addict and you corrected yourself yeah okay sorry thanks so we always smoked weed and uh he'd leave all the stems on our table all the time so i

collected them because i thought they'd be useful uh-huh and later on i went with this guy uh and we put it in banana bread and just ground up the stems and he cooked the bread and it came out green and you know stems aren't you know they're you throw them away they're not supposed to get you high. I thought it was funny. Anyway, I'm starving. I have to head out to a coding exam. I take half the loaf and I just throw it in my pie hole and eat it. About 30 minutes into the exam, I am levitating off my chair in that testing room. Yeah. You know, it's so funny because I, when I was in school in New Orleans, quick personal story, the kid that lived across from us was a hey Arnold character. I mean, he was just like stoop kid. He had a bowl cut. He was. He

was perfectly nice but he was he was weird and uh one day he brought in a bottle of vodka that was just filled with stems we were like what are you doing with that he's like i don't know i think it might uh might give me hi we're just like all right well you want to try some no i'm i'm okay and it was so funny because there was one night where we had a buddy who was just a perennial drunk an all-time drunk named jack and he was going to a shotgun of four loco four Locos were very big at the time. Stu came in. It's like, what are you guys doing?

Oh, we're shooting four locoes. And Jack challenges him. Stu walks in. Shotgun's a four loco within, I don't even, I think he breathed it in. Oh, a stoop kick. A shotgun. Shotgun. Well, that's where you take a can, you cut a hole in it, and then you pop the can and

like a geyser, it blows it into your mouth. A geyser. Stu sucks down a four loco, like a breath of oxygen. The drunk, Jack is over there struggling. And he's like, oh, that was really good. And then he just left the room. I was like, what is this kid? Who is this child?

I apologize for that story. Hold on. So he put weed stems in a liquid to extract the THC into liquid. Yeah, he put it into a bottle of vodka. And he thought that it could turn him. It was like a crossfade solution. Wow. He was way ahead of his time.

I'm telling you, the kid was a live wire. He was really out there. Anyway, I felt like Shannon Bador when I was in sophomore. I was that high. We had downstairs when we get ready for the tulip farm. The tulip farm being, I think, you know, our first cautionary tale of speculative economics. You know how it like bankrupted the entire economy back then?

Really? Yeah, everybody was like big into, tulips were like the first Bitcoin or some shit. Is that right? Yeah. Wow. Well, I can tell you they did inflate the marketplace for weddings. Hey, I think I'd love to have some beautiful.

beautiful flowers for my wedding, they're like, uh, it's going to be $18,000. Yeah. And Roobes is really good with flowers. Rubes is a tulip, one of the more overpriced flowers out there? It is, but also, um, they're difficult to ship. So I think that's partially why they're expensive, but you want to know a fun fact about them. They're actually native to Afghanistan. Wow.

That in, uh, poppy seeds. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Isn't that cool? That is cool. I think it's like their flat, like their national, or it's like on a flag or something. I don't know. It's special to them because it grows there.

And I think we like, like, yeah. And then I think we like take their seeds and like GMO them and shit. I think they're like very, that's. Yeah. It would stand to reason the Dutch. I mean, they had a, they had a real time on stage there for a minute where they were just sailing all over the place, just taking shit from people. Yeah? Yeah.

Fucking Dutch. Get out of here with your clogs and your imperialism. You disgust me. And your farts. And your farts because of the mayonnaise. Also, go in Dutch on a date. You're cheap. Yeah.

You want to split the bill. Go in Dutch. There's nothing good Dutch. Yep, nothing good Dutch. Hey, can I say something about Chantabador? When she walks down to that lobby and she's got her foot, like her fucking foot is rotting off her ankle and it's dying and it's all sad and stuff, part of why we love the real housewives.

And it doesn't have to be everybody, but we love your looks, how you like your, when you're going out to party, we like to see what dresses you're wearing and how you did your hair and your glam. Shannon Bedore, forgive me, but has completely given up on that. Completely given up. She said, fuck it, I don't care.

I'm going to be gross. That's why Salt Lake, Salt Lake is such a perfect van diagram of like, the women all dress up, but they're all ludicrous. I mean, Meredith Marks looked like coronavirus. Lisa Borlo just shows up in pajamas. that are $3,000.

And it's nuts. Miami is like, okay, we get it, Larsa and the one who's suck in the putt of that 80-year-old man. But, but, yeah, Shannon Bador is a walking, goddamn wheelbarrel of zaniness. She's like, it's enough. I hate to say this, but she's like one bad spill in a bathtub. Oh, yeah. The hip goes out.

Oh, yeah. It's just, go ahead, Ruby. What are you going to say? I was going to say even Gretchen, she comes down and she looks like, a fucking like she looks like a spoof of someone going to church yeah and that at least you can say that Shannon just looks like if I saw that in a lobby I would be like oh no yeah that poor that poor woman right now right they've let a homeless person inside um the thing about our housewives and and we don't want our housewives to to be impervious and infallible right but we do want

our housewives to be able to survive a little spilt the hip. And that's not something that I think Shannon Bador is a hundred percent guaranteed to see the end of. You know, if Lisa Barlow falls on her hip, she'll recover. You know, she'll be back on the... They ski. They ski. You know, she'll be back on a reformer. Shannon Bador could die. Not okay. The moment in this episode when the producer felt comfortable enough to ask Shannon, if she remembered what a cock felt like, I was like, wow, we've got to get her off our TV. And that was a mean gay.

That was not. That was not okay. My next life, I so want to come back as a gay because I'll get to say whatever I really think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel so censored. Credit to Heather and Meatball. And imagine that.

Listen to him. He feels censored. And I know that, you know, there are fans of this podcast or people who are hearing it for the first time going, well, he couldn't possibly think that. And I want you to know that he is. And that's a very real feeling. Yeah. He feels,

he feels censored. Okay. And also, it's because he is censoring himself, all right? He is a clipped parakeet. I swear to God. Let me fly. Can't go anywhere. Open the cage.

Credit to Heather and me, Ball. they actually do take mushrooms love it um heather says i i talked to a i said take three to four grams do not do that oh i'm heather i don't know like again i don't know anything about mushrooms i don't know what heather jean is saying heather is the girl that your mom warns you about spot fucking on oh my god yeah so true so true so we head over to the tulips uh bador uh shows everybody are spanks and then we we get to this uh man i i don't know how to describe it other than a bunch of like chuggy people who have never done psychedelics doing doing first time editing a psychedelic segment um it was really really corny and um there was no camp

just everything misfired um i can't imagine meatball was pretty fun though. Meatball was fun. Hell, Shannon Madora was fun, climbing up on that, that plaster horse and riding it and grabbing its cock and all that stuff. But I was thinking about what would it be like to be on a psychotropic drug around Tamara Judge? Okay. It would be, you would see a black hole in her heart or her face so second bad trip of my life i decided we were going to throw a party a keg party this is where you'd buy a full barrel of beer it costs you 50 bucks you'd have to uh put a down payment on a tap yep and you charge every high school or college kid that came in five bucks i was in charge of that that day i decided to take mushrooms i had a white t-shirt there's a picture of it that says

fuck you pay me good fellas was very big then i remember that and at some point the high starts getting questionable this one kid comes in who's now dead because he a bad drug deal gone wrong and they shot him in the head roll them up into a carpet and lit the carpet on fire three teenagers are serving life for that anyway his name was west i see him and west is trying to break into my friend's car to steal his speakers out of his car and i see this as i'm tripping and i suddenly have like the world is dark it's evil and i must get out of here I left my own party and went back to my shitty apartment where my mom and Jimmy Dell lived and I hid under my covers.

I left the party. From fuck you pay me to hiding under the covers. That's what a psychedelic experience can do to you. But, you know, a lot of people see oras. They see energies. And I saw energies. You can be affected by that. I think Tamara Judge is truly a, there are degrees of,

darkness, right? I think that Dick Cheney is darker than Tamara Judge. But Tamara Judge is an only dark human being. It would be scary. I want to see like so. Like it's Heather and Gina are still in trumes and they start to see oras and Tamara's face is black and they just every time they look at her, they scream. Yeah. Yeah. It is Halloween. Emily starts being a contrived producer's best friend again. Spengali. She's a little puppet. She's, she's been doing it. for a couple of episodes, and it's really, really taxing. She says, can you believe that Gretchen was just sitting there last night and not fighting back or so.

So, Dill, just say, sorry, just where we are. Are we at lunch with the sandwiches? We're going to lunch with the sandwiches. Yes, that's bad hosting. No, no, that's okay. By the way, great stoner food. Just throw some sandwiches down there, right? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. So H.D. has to explain to Meatball that, flowers die and that they don't go to heaven. And I think Meatball took it really hard. I remember when I was a kid, I learned I was mortal. I was six. My mom was doing laundry.

I said, mom, am I going to die? And she said, yep. That's one way to do it, right? Don't lie. Just flat out. Get them used to it young, right? Yeah. I was like, wow, that's a bummer.

I'm not thinking about that. Yeah. Sorry, I got lost a little bit. We're not yet at the sandwiches. We're driving over there. And this is when Emily starts to do this whole fucking Shannon is in charge of this group. And Gretchen is the historian of that group. I remember that.

And starts to like drive this wedge between her meatball and this woman who a couple of weeks ago was saying, I can't trust you. If you can't trust her, what are you doing with this pod narrative that you're trying? It makes no sense. It's all off. It's off. When she, I think it was her that she was like at the tulip field, she was like, it's the, I hate Tamara fan club.

I was like, is it? When they were trying to climb the cock horse, I was like, I don't think that's what they feel like. No, yeah. And you just, if you're a person, you're in that fan club, Eddie hates her. So we then get to lunch after Gina kind of bites. on this stuff going. Shannon always pushes me into the background. But we get to lunch and Heather is actually kind of fun when she's, she's stoned. She had a couple of moments throughout this

meal that were funny. I'm glad to know she knows how to blow some steam off because I was wondering, you can't live your life with the stick up your ass like you walk around. Like, it's nice to know that her and Terry probably take some shrooms or some gummies at night. Yeah, toss into one another. I don't think they've had sex in a decade. Okay. So we get to talking about, Jen's relationship with Alexis Bellino, aka Jesus Jugs. The gaslighting of poor Shannon Stormsbadour here was a little bit heartbreaking. She's too zany to weather this full frontal attack from the ladies. And I know the rules of engagement are a little bit different with the housewives,

but just in normal life, if there's a person that has made it their life's goal to see you reputationally ruined financially ruined familially ruined I don't want to be friends with people who are friends with that person and I'm 100% behind

Shannon Storms Bedore when she says that's my boundary what is the problem with that I agree and the reason it's not as though it's just because Johnny Jay's it's not as though she's just like I hate him and he's now

he's getting married to a new woman. Alexis Bellino has actively participated in perpetuating a story that she, which by the way, she is a fucking bad drunk, you know, it's legal trouble, like loss. It's, it's, there has been such an attack on her from such a personal level. Like you said, she does still have like two kids that have to get through college and she's like going after her money. It's dark.

These people are gross. And you shouldn't go to their wedding. And if you do, I don't know, it's kind of like the Bezos wedding. Like there's a reason why Leo wore. that hat. He did not want to be seen there. Well, I will say this. If there was one cast member that you would say give a little grace for her being kind of naive, it would be Jen. Because Jen is just a nice person. She is a welcomed person on this show. Do you also mean to say that she's very dumb? Dumb. Yeah, very dumb. Yeah. But or cunning. If you'll notice she's not all about Ryan this

year and not even kind of hinting out there's not going to be a wedding and it's been a year since they filmed you know her bridal uh lunch and she's not married to ryan no i think she's using for that track home she's still i believe with him though it's it's cunning is it is a is a generous word that's what i'll say yep uh it's just a wrong word uh but she's not quite brittany but uh she is jen um as is evidence when we're talking about her like the god i don't know if she deals with a massive amount of stress about this stuff i couldn't live like this but i think we get to it later when they're like a report just came out you owe like two hundred fifty thousand dollars on a lot okay no lease and she's like oh yeah yeah that was amazing

because that was after tamrat and gretchen i wouldn't say they'd agreed to bury the hatchet but had come to like we've been doing horrible things with to one another yeah and maybe let's Let's couch this. Nothing was a great. Tamrat gets off the boat. Yeah. And picks her phone up like it just turned on. And it's like, let's fucking start some shit.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the motion. And then lovely. But again, though, Jen's willingness to just be like, uh-huh. No, that same one. Yep. Yep.

That's me. All right. So we can we get there. So we leave fucking lunch. Van Ride. The girls offer Jen a little business advice. They tell her, get Ryan in that bad hair dye off her Instagram. Yeah.

And I mean, it's kind of nuts to think, I mean, you know, Exhibit Z with, you know, maybe not stupidity, but a little bit of heads in the cloud. You've been on this show for three years. How have you not turned one of the most important revenue streams in your life? One of the reasons why people do this show on. Why is Ryan dancing his little fat fucking ass all over your Instagram? It's disgusting and it's like porn. Like, I need more. shots of the guy's face while he's having sex with the girl. It's like, get him out of there. Get him out of here. I don't want to look at his face.

That's exactly what it's like. But also, the other thing is, too, is I can guarantee you that if she were to ever, like, when she's brought this up before, that she's been like, oh, honey, like a bikini company DM'd me. And they were like, hey, we'll pay you 15 grand if you post about this. And he's like, that's fucking disgusting. You're not doing that. That's trash.

And she's like, yeah, you're right. You're right. Now, I looked up, Gregors. What happened to that money? He's like, well, we went to Vegas. I reinvested it. Show Hey. Yeah, everyone goes to Vegas to reinvest.

Okay. So this was fascinating. Gretcher's giving Jen, which we don't have a cute name for. We'll have to find that one. Jenners. Jenners. Give her some advice on social media stuff. Yeah.

Because I looked up, Gretcher's. I was not following her prior to this. She has one million followers. Congratulations. Ruby seems very upset right now. What's going on? I, okay, it was very hard for me. And again, I have no followers. So I'm not monetizing anything. It, it, it was hard for me to hear. It was just a hard one for me to hear. So, so you talking about it in such detail is triggering me. That's why my head is in my hands. And also Gretcher's Instagram is, it has a Blair Witch kind of

quality to it where you go, oh, what's this happening here? Something seems really scary. Well, I think allegedly, you know, because I was in the social media space for a while, you know, I think she's like buying a lot of followers because she has a million followers, very little engagement. Average post gets 3,000. I looked at like 20 posts, has 100 comments. That's not a person that has a million followers. I'm sorry. No, it's not.

But she is like almost a boomer. So somebody comes up to her and goes, we can get you to a million followers. She's like, that is amazing. Here's a thing, though. there will be comments in Ukrainian underneath your posts. She's like, that's amazing. I've always wanted to be international. That's good for me.

Yeah. Cool. Also, I'm sorry to one more thing. When Emily, when, when. Go ahead. Oh, no. No. It wasn't because it's not a reference to size.

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thank you um when we were at lunch and emily lost her mind yeah and became a fucking ogre and was like can you and that's why i didn't want to say the word ogre because now that's me and it is no call a shrek i i didn't do that explicitly i didn't do that pat um she's kind of reminds me a shirk sometimes there's one look that they do. I don't know if her glam people hate her this season, but there are a lot of looks, honestly for a lot of them that I'm like, who, who, who,

the answer is no one. Can I tell you something? I don't think we're ever mean to nice people. I don't think we ever do that. People that we think are nice on these shows, we're their biggest fans. I think Jen is nice and I just called her dumb. That's very mean, you know?

So Ruby, I can't tell because sometimes I watch this show on the TV in our bedroom. The TV in our bedroom was we stole the TV out of a rental unit for the guy that won best producer of the year last year. And I can see like zits on people's noses like during newscasts. When I look at the glam looks for Tamrat and Emily, I see their like spray tan glistling. Like it's dried up. Yeah.

you know they're like it's iridescence that's that is desert yeah yeah yeah it's very cracky um i don't want to say that emily reminds me of shrek because of the size because he's orange i i it there's there's a hue and i'm coming at it from like we know that shrek is misunderstood shrek is a good guy but if i'm a villager i'm not a fan shrek sounds like a busy body to me yeah yeah and somebody that should be Lance with a pitchfork. But that's ignorant, okay? So anyways, Gretchen is a serial entrepreneur. She's got to stand on her own two feet and not depend on a man.

That's because she's never had to depend on him. He's never done anything. We should get to the... Hot tubs in the canal. Now, Dylan, I, Ruby, what are your thoughts on this? This did not seem like an activity that I'd like to do. This seems like something free... Oh, it seems fun to me.

It seems like something that college kids would do. Yeah. You get fucking wasted. The liability of letting Shannon Badoor on the fucking wheel of this thing, with drinks and college kids, it's like crazy. We begin, though, with a couple of really cool hats from Emily, throat goat. I love cock. I love cock. Moister than an oyster is the one that's told out to Shannon Bador.

And the women comment on just how dry Shannon Bador is. She's actually kind of seized up like a mummy. down there. Sam paper has more moisture. I actually would say that given the saran wrap of Spanx that she is in at all times, I would say there's a tremendous amount of moisture down there. I mean, when you lock something up like that, it's going to start. Condensation will happen. We didn't need to go there. We don't need to talk about it. It's not important. So, Shannon. Water can show up anyway. Okay. It didn't even range. I walk out my backyard.

Our leaves on our phycus have drips of water out of bed. Mm-hmm. That's what I'm saying. All right. So Emily once again does this producer shit where she goes, this is my last ditch effort to bring these two together. And that is why we're going to go. It's like,

Emily. Huh. Emily. Shannon drives the boat into another boat. Is she always drunk? Yes. Yes. I don't think she's always drunk.

I think she's just zany. We'll track it up to zaniness. But she does. Well, really quick question. Do you think she's drunk here, though? I don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah, she's drunk.

Wow, Dill. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Yep. Oh, it was. Takes one and no one. I fake a lot of people out.

They don't know I'm drunk. I'm drunk. Right. Right. you know it reminds me a little bit her energy i saw this video of a kid who uh college kid had driven his car into a telephone pole uh no excuse me a street light and it it fell on top of his car and the cop goes up to the door he goes what are you doing the kid's like oh fucking am i going to have to tow this thing he goes yeah you're going to have to tow it he goes i don't know

I can't just drive it home. There's a street light on it. All right. Hey, have you taken anything tonight? Yeah, I think it was Danny. But my house is like three blocks away. I don't walk there, man. No, actually, turn around.

Sorry, buddy. Such a bummer. Such a bummer. Party pooper. All right. So Shannon and Jen have a chat about Alexis Spalina but the real meat here is between Tamara and Gretchen, who continued to feud.

This is the ugliest part of the show. I don't, they're never going to be friends. But also, like, their conversation puts me, at least, when I'm watching, into a malaise. They're not, they're not discussing anything. Actually, there's no, there's no aiming at all. They're just kind of vaguely, talking about their problems with each other.

Rorubes, go ahead. I just yawned. Well, you were, and I'm not kidding. You were describing this and I yawned. And that's how I feel. I don't really know what they're saying at this point. I think if one of them called the other one like a dumb fat cunt, I would be like, oh, that's like, but other than that, I don't what.

To be fair, Tamara called they're irrelevant. Well, so that's not the same as a dumb fat cunt, you know. It's different. But my question, and I felt like Jesse Pinkman here. just like she can't keep getting away with it. And we'll see next week that Tamara wins the day and Gretchen is cast to the cornfield. Wow.

Why are people apologizing to Tamara for anything? Why would you ever, if you ran her over with a golf cart because she was being a bitch to you, do not apologize. Just go, you know, we made some mistakes. Well, hold on. So Gretchen, who I thought was going to be,

I thought I was going to enjoy this more having an old cast member return, Just like I thought Jesus, Jugs was going to work out. Turns out this is totally a bad idea. Because they bring energy from 10 years earlier into now. And it's pointless because Tamrat hasn't done anything to Gretchen in 12 years. She called her out about having sex with a dude at Bass Lake when she was engaged to some guy who was dying of cancer. And then now Gretchen shows up on the show, mocks her at that cowboy thing.

Slade gets on a FaceTime call and says that she was having sex with a boy band. guy and just like creating a bunch of problems and yes i agree like uh i don't know what i agree with well it's just too it's all too messy to really so it's it's hard to bring people back but i just i do i do chuckle and i know she's terrible and awful and blah blah blah i do chuckle if they just grenaded kelly dodd back into these people's lives it would be i'll tell you what kelly Kelly Dodd will save this show. You know, she 100% well. Here's the thing.

Then we're bringing someone back from the past. We're repeating bad habits, guys. I know, but Kelly Dodd. I don't, yeah. She's not, I think that also Kelly Dodd has had enough going on in her personal life. Like she's been fucking up for the last eight years since she's been off the show everywhere on the internet, on her own social media. She's insane. She doesn't have to bring up shit from 10 years ago.

There's enough recent, you know, she's a grenade of a human being. Yeah. I want to see the first episode. What have I been up to? And just hear about it. I mean, she called Shane a dork. The best line, one of the best things that she ever fucking said. It's one of the best moments in the last like 10 years of Real Housewives of Orange County.

She goes up to Shane and goes, dork. And then, and then she goes, you're married to him. Kelly, that's my husband. We all agreed with her, though. yep all right so i love that the onus is on gretchen to change um and things are going well and that's when gretchen says i hope you can change a little bit as well and tamara just looks at her like the demon that she is and that's you know you go what is the point of this tamara is just there's no there is nothing you can do to make tamara not i've run out of words can i tell

Ruby, tell me if you agree with this. Tamrat's history on the show, especially the early years, was at some point because she was doing things that other people weren't willing to do. She would grind you up and shit you out and you were off the show, you were in her rearview mirror,

and then she'd move on to the next victim. And now she's in this position where they're bringing back people and she's still dealing with this drama but doesn't do it as well as she used to. Or maybe it's the same act, but it's getting old. I think part of it is because for most of that, she always had Vicky as a sidekick.

So there was kind of a dynamic duo part of it. I think by herself, she's just like a bitter kind of bitch. There's no fun there. And again, I don't think he was a pretty dark human being too. But I think maybe that had something to do with it. Because I agree.

It just feels very tired. Tired. Well, we found out about the back payment in the studio. But we'll get to Gretchen, who's overwhelmed by all the years of pain. Jen tells the women that Gretchen's going to be late. She's upset.

That's when the witch in Tamara really explodes out of her skin. It's like it turning into a spider, you know. What was the point of that conversation? She told you she was upset and you're like, what the fuck is her? It's like. I'm bugged. I'm bugged. So we go to a mall.

A food court. And we joke about dicks every time we see a sausage stand. Jen and Shannon Bador do a dance in the middle of the mall and torture everyone. Then they sit down at a bar and torture this bartender. This guy had no idea what was going on. And this is where Shannon Bador may be, she may be drunk. Yeah. Just here?

Wow. 60 year old women are dudes that were drunk when they were 25. That's what 60 year old women are. Yep. I've seen it. I do wine country a lot. They're all up there. They're 60.

One lady at a five-star fucking, like a Michelin Star restaurant was 62 and she's fucking passed out, laid out on a bench. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? That may be your best take of all time. And you've had a lot of really good takes. Thank you. You're a hundred percent right. These elder bitches are out here just blacking out.

I mean, but, but they do shit like this where they're like, we love passion. I, okay, fucking stupid, fucking annoying. This is this fucking shit. Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's exactly what they are. Okay, so, um, we, are we dark tonight? Are we too dark? Ask Kalen. No.

No. He didn't make eye contact. Kalin is not a reliable source of how we're doing. I have something to say. I'm having fun. Maybe they shouldn't be so dark. Okay. Yeah.

All right. So Tamara is a bug still. She thinks that Slade put Gretchen up to this. And Slade's a bitch, but he said the exact opposite, actually. So try and work things out. Try and work things out and don't let it get to you. But we get back to the table. And Tamara is just being a dark, miserable cunt again.

She is, this is where I was like, all right, I've had enough. It's Jacks Taylor. It's Jason Couchy. It's just you were serviceable and we appreciate it. there's no more war here for you no no it's time to hang up the the sword yeah put it away um here is the most one of the more so gretcher's shows up and uh explains that she hates the drama and they're what they've done to each other tamrak gets frustrated and tells hd to back the fuck off because hd was trying to mediate and then we cut to the next morning and this was the

fascinating part tamrat clearly knew that she had had these posts screenshots of likes on posts for which we do not know what they are yet we do but we do all season it was always going to get to hear in fact what did she say to meatball she's like then no no we're not going to talk about the post tonight there's a long flight tomorrow did you hear that right we're all getting on a plane there's no need you also pat when she was in the van everyone was like i don't know what aggression's like being so weird whatever and tamer was like like, oh, I think it's because she thinks something. She thinks that something is coming for her.

She thinks that. I was like, does she think that? I wonder why. But yeah, we end the episode with all of the women getting to the next morning. And Tamara brings up the Gretchen posts. And again, this is such a shocker. I mean, are all of these women MAGA? I think Tamrat is, Emily definitely is.

Gretchen is. Gretchen is. I mean, they're Orange County. That's Republican County. Right, exactly. Gina might not be. I don't know. I'm not saying that all MAGA people.

I bet Terry and H.D vote Republican for tax purposes. A billion percent. And you know what? Before we had the episode, by the way, I don't care how you vote. I'm an independent. I do. Sorry. I do, but we're not going to talk about it here. We get to, we glossed over the call home to Terry Debrough, who, oh, probably one of the, I think it was probably peak awful Terry Debrough when we called home.

Well, peak awful the Debrose, which I've pointed out, and now that our listeners understand this, they have two storylines. How much real estate we have and how fucking awesome are we as a family. Terry Debrough is dad of the year. He's going to show up at a basketball game. And sit in bleachers. Oh my God. The horror. I have four activities I need to go to tonight for my two fucking crumb craters.

Right. And I'm drunk. And I'm still going to go because I'm a great dad. The, thank Pat. The correction of this was peak. The Debrose being awful, not just Terry, is it? Because the brilliance of the editors to then have Heather in her ITMs.

doing the whole like my dad was I mean he was a great provider but he was never you know we oh well it's well let Terry I Terry I'm excited to hear how you think those bleachers are for the first time mind of you about two kids I believe that have already graduated so yeah yeah and get in the comments let us know if you go to your children's games and if you like the Debrose I'm sorry if this show got too dark let us know in the comments if it did we love you very much for listening until next time I'm Dylan saying goodbye pat say goodbye later do Ruby say goodbye Bye, bye.

Kayland, give us a goodbye. Bye. Thank you.