Another Below Deck Podcast - Pet Psychic | RHOC S19 E14

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Dylan and Pat are back to break down pet psychics, the new Jacob Elordi Frankenstein movie, enemies, love, poop and more from Bravo's RHOC.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

what's that archie there's a fire in the bank building no you don't need to hire that fecocta fucking con woman kio kuku or whatever her name is patty's been talking to archie the entire season archie just said tamrat uh he says that uh his mom's

uh sb just uh polished off a 12 pack of dosecis and she made him go in the car with her right Hi, hello, welcome to another brand spanking new episode. You okay? Yeah, Ruby's not here, and I wanted to ask about JJ and JJ getting hitched. Uh, any details on the wedding? Um, what?

J.J. and J.J. Mary. Who's that? Johnny Janssen and Jesus Jugs. Oh, they got married? They got married. Tamara out was there. No, this is the first time hearing about it. Can we call Ruby?

Uh, I think she's at a corporate event. Oh, yeah, that's right. She might pick up. It's probably boring there. You want me to call her? I'll call her. You, uh, want you, uh, iTunes rating reviews, five stars kind words.

It's buzz ball Friday, about that. That's Buzzball Friday. I hope you guys are having a fantastic weekend. Your call has been forwarded. Oh, yeah. You know when they just hit that button, like I'm not talking to this person right now? You'll leave a message, though, or not?

Yeah, I'll leave it right now. When you have finished recording, you may hang up. Hey, Rubes, it's Patty. Hey, Ruby, Johnny Jansen and Jesus Juggs got married this past weekend. You know, you're the Bravo expert. Can you call us back for the podcast? Let us know if there's any details that our listeners need to be aware of. Thanks.

Bye. Boop. I thought that was a good voicemail. pretty sturdy voicemail concise yeah clean oh when i leave a voicemail i ramble on and on can i tell what my wife does to me when i'm on the phone she usually calls me when she's in the car she'll go um you know i was thinking yesterday uh hold on um and uh and uh and um and you hear like she's backing up to park into a park so i beep beep hold on a second i'm like i'm a human being and i'm on hold right now okay i'm not a fucking robot right

right you're putting me as a human being on hold yeah why don't you hang up the phone and then call me when you have a concise clear thought i put people on hold all the time i'm rolling so many calls man wow i like to get in the car and talk you know i get it i have to say patrick's trying to get a hold of patrick is like trying to get a hold of an international assassin he'll just be on the phone for one second and it'll just go boop and then you won't hear from him well that's because my phone is old. Okay. This is Bad TV. We're here to talk about the Real Housewives of Orange County. Kaylin is here. Hello. Pat's here. Dill's here. You know, I'm having the, uh, it's not only is it buzz ball Friday. It's Friday somewhere, by the way. Don't worry about it. If you're listening to

this on Tuesday, it's Friday for you. I have a lot of people that have different occupations. It's not really Friday somewhere if you're listening on like a Monday because it's not Friday anywhere. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. What if you're like in the, uh, your occupation? is a nurse or a firefighter, your work days are Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Monday's your day off. And Tuesday, technically, that's a Friday for you, and you're completely in your right to go buy a buzz ball

and listen to the podcast, Dylan. For years, I had to work on weekends. My Friday was a Monday and a Tuesday. Hey, in other news, I know my wife listens to this podcast. I don't want to be, I don't want to be this guy. but when you say technically it's incorrect technically

look I don't know how to talk technically this is Friday okay I've gotten really far in my life but I'm understanding the English language shout out to all the nurses and all the first responders who have to work on the weekends yeah that's not American

yeah American is Monday to Thursday and even if you are in the office you uh you like work a half a day even if the boss doesn't know it. No. America is a backbreaking work constantly or just kind of feed up croquet playing. Yeah, that's kind of America.

It's quite a beautiful dichotomy. USA. All right, so anyways, enough of my fucking communist rhetoric. Goddamn Marxist. I want to get your thoughts on this, guys. You know, my wife, I often think she's repulsed by me. Today, this was a move. I think I'm going to get some action tonight.

Okay, and we'll get into a real housewife soon. Oh, yeah. I, uh, she goes, uh, Pat, I need toilet paper. You know, she was in the bathroom going pee-p. And normally I'm a gentleman, so I grab the toilet paper out of the linens closet, and then I hand it around the corner and she goes, you can come in here. And I got to see my wife naked and I'm like, holy crap, I think she's into me. I'm going to try and hit this tonight.

Okay. And that's a couple hours away. So hopefully I don't drink too many buzz balls. Well, you're already at, uh, two. Two? Two. and what and and how many buzz balls is too many buzz balls probably four you're an august baby right july july baby

fuck well i think i know what i'm getting pat for christmas a case of buzz balls well you'll see you'll see do we have to get kailen a gift he's a friend yeah but what would we even get it one of our best episodes of the year is the end of the year podcast where we gift each other's stuff yeah that's a good point does caylin have to get us stuff i want to get this podcast so successful so you guys need to share this show and grow like i feel like we've come into our own like we're we're hitting our stride now yeah i want to buy caylin a jet ski for

christmas so whatever you can do to you know help the effort and and and whoa whoa that's a lot we're splitting it yeah we could get to that point where we could get calen a skidoo to rot in his driveway? I have a fucking asshole friend trying to sell a houseboat right now for 150K. It doesn't have a motor. You have to tow it out in the water. I'm like, oh, good luck selling this. By the way, good job being a sucker for you buying.

Well, I'll tell you what, though, that right there, that could launch a YouTube career. Okay, young upstart couple, they buy this houseboat and they just vlog. Renovate it? Yeah, they vlog the renau. And they get towed around the world? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy stuff.

Okay, let's talk about the Real Housewives of Orange County. Let's do it. But first, we have to talk about love is blind. Love is blind. Oh, because people... We're not doing it. Okay. I don't know how much more clear we can be.

Dylan. The inquiries can end. We're not doing it. Okay. A lot of people, we've got to be respectful of our little patties and baddies. You guys pay us money. I totally get it. This is our first season that we're skipping.

They've burned us so much. It's like how many times are we going to be beaten down? Okay. Let's say Pat and I, okay, we're in a polycube, right? Do you know what that is? Is that where we get to bang each other? Yeah, we're in a house and everybody's banging, right? And we have track marks now, and we didn't want to have those,

but we got in this polycube and it's bad for us, but it's entertaining for you. There are cameras up everywhere. You want us to go back in that hall of horrors for your entertainment? I'm not doing that. I'm trying to get clean. Is that a good analogy? Yeah. This season is actually good, but I will say it's not good enough that we are going to consume 15 and a half hours of television.

Thank you. So, but it is good. I'll give it to you. There are some interesting characters this season. Very interesting. Case closed on that. All right. Real House Wives of Orange County.

Tonight was a... It was just a bizarre episode. Bizarre episode. We've got a lot of innocence project stuff. Multiple charities. We've got multiple charities. The Oreo cheese cake cookies. Wow.

Those are delicious. And if you buy one... You can help. Or you can just give them the money. By all the pop and circumstance. Like, someone had to bake cookies. Someone had to lend you their property to do this. Just give them the money.

Just write a check. What are you going to do, buy a hundred or a cheesecake cookies? Just pay them. But then we've got the Gretchen, Slade, Eddie, Tamara stuff. And I just want Tamara. Tamara, Judge, I want so far away from all of us. And it couldn't be further from that right now. It's weekly.

All right. So I've thought about this a lot with Tamrak, because she is a very unique individual in that she has, she's part of a very small group of people. She has had a quarter of her life documented on television. The Kardashians, those sister wives people, you know, Cody. They're still doing it. Oh yeah, they're still doing it. They've probably been on television for 15 years. How many wives? I think four. This is the disgusting part of. about Cody is every woman he marries he's like they like eat the poison apple they put on 120 pounds and they get depressed i was going to say don't ever marry that guy fat people that's right so tam rat has been on television a quarter of her life it's been documented enough i think in a way she has that is signing a deal with the devil she uh gets to be famous uh and be on television and

make some dough, but one of her daughters does not talk to her, despises her. I think she's seen her four times in the last 10 years, so that's great. And then she has a near-do-well loser son who's got kids running around fucking everywhere, a total loser. And she doesn't have any real relationships. She sits on this show and fights with these people. She made a deal with the devil. I think it's going to be a very sad last couple of years of her life.

On this show or just in general? In general. In general. The deal with the devil. Yeah, Tamara to me is like the Jurassic Park franchise. Like, I don't need it anymore. Right? We've had too many.

It's starting to get toxic and it's starting to fight with everybody. I mean, the last Jurassic Park, they were going in and taking eggs from dinosaurs. That's toxic. We don't need it. I only, this is what I had to say about that. movie. I watched 22 minutes of it and I paid for it. I was like, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. You know what? We're going to go see you tomorrow. What? That Paul Thomas Anderson movie finally. Finally, you haven't seen it yet? No. I think it's out. Yeah, it's out. I talked to a dude that

started doing a preview and he said it's his best movie since Boogie Nights. Yeah. And you know, we started watching Phantom Thread in preparation. Such an amazing movie. Is it really? Yeah, it really is. Can you give me a couple beats on that? And then we'll, A couple of beats about fan thread. Yeah. Like, give me the selling point. A designer, a very high-strung designer finds a new muse and welcomes her into his toxic, high-calibur life.

Murder? No, no, murder. Oh, okay. No murder. Control, love. Sounds like a slow burn. And it's a beautiful movie. Oh, okay.

It's a beautiful movie. And Daniel DeLewis is just, I cannot like the the performances come alive in these very small moments and you're like it it's like a concerto the entire way through it's unbelievable what he does really oh yeah unbelievable I'll check it out yeah you got to check it out let's talk about the real house like Orange County okay uh how many uh how many three tits all right I'm going to give it 14 oranges Yeah, there's a lot of, like, fighting from all directions, like Emily and Gretchen can't stand each other. Heather Debrough and Tamrata going at it.

Like, allegiances are no more. Yeah, it's toxic. But we start off with another, and Kaelan, how many oranges would you give it? 13. He didn't like it. Can I start us off? Yeah, of course. All right, Emily and Gretcher's go shopping.

Please, please. No, no, no. But before you do that, you've missed another fucking Avengers Endgame teaser. Oh. Coming up. Fucking thing that we start the episode with. You know what I'm talking about? Where we re-tease that Katie and Tamara are going to be sitting down.

We have no taglines. There's no intro to the show at all. It's just, what are you on the Vice YouTube channel? Like, what is this? Thank you. You can go now. When I grew up in the 80s. Every show began with credits with a wonderfully composed song that brought you into it.

Game of Thrones later brought that back. It got you excited. I never understood what the maps were. Yeah. See the new one they're coming out with? Yeah, they're coming out with the new one. Yeah. I think people are over it.

I want to do Dunkin' Egg for that long, right? Committing to Dunkin' Egg. I mean, listen, maybe. Is it a different series? By the way, we all talk about Orange County in a second. Kalin, do you mind playing the theme to taxi? I don't know that he can do that. I can do it, but I am live switching, so you're going to have it.

No, that's fine. Just do a like a wide shot on us or something. He doesn't have a wide. Okay, he's not playing the taxi theme. He's not. I'll play it. All right, play that. Play it.

And then we're going to start the show. Okay. As he's trying to find that. Is it a, does it ruin the whole show if you know who, egg is, the little Kalen, the bald? Do you know who egg is? I don't even remember who egg is. Oh, you don't know who egg is. Oh, yeah. Not a lot of people

Okay, all right. That's a pretty big twist. Let me know when you're ready because I'm going to get us into the show. Yeah, okay. This is what happens when Ruby's not here. She tell us both to shut out. I know. She would. Okay. Emily and Gretcher's shopping. Emily has thoughts on Gretcher's attire. Hey, Emily, uh, in your interview, look, that spray tan job is so cheap, you look like a fucking glazed donut. It's disgusting. Oh, here you go. Anybody remember this? I guess you guys were all born in 1990.

It really kicks in here. This would open the show, Taxi. Judd Hirsch, Danny DeVito. Oh, got RIP, pal. But he went out higher than Michael Jackson. Merrillu Hennar. Yeah, yeah. She has that.

thing where she can um what do you call it where she can uh randall carver no clue oh and andy coffman did you know i heard a story that uh and this was danny de vito on fly on the wall he uh this is how amazing andy coffman was they went to eat at jerry's famous deli we'll get to the show a little sorry they went to eat at jerry's famous deli on vintura boulevard which is no more it's just a disgusting it's not famous it's not even there Right. Andy worked there as a waiter during taxi. Wow. Dude, taxi is one of those. I cannot even. Can you imagine being weighted on by Andy Kaufman? I'm sure it'd be good service. He would like spill ketchup on you.

All right. And then punch you in the face. Right. It's a bit, though. It's a bit. I'm doing a character. Alternative comedy. I'm bleeding. The blood has kind of flowed into the ketchup now and I'm not sure what's going on. You'd be like, yeah, it's funny. Don't you see that that's funny? You want to get into the first two seconds? Yeah, let's get into it. Okay, all right. So Emily plans on hosting an event for a group of wrongfully convicted people.

Can I tell you? I just want to tell the audience, we could have kept going for 40 minutes, hip-hopping and beep-bopping around all over the place. Well, that's what PMZ is for. We're going to, we're going to tamp it down right now. We're going to get to the show. Right. We are, I promise. Okay.

But taxi is one of those cultural. blind spots for me. And it pains me because that is like, when you hear that cast, when you hear that music, that is so enticing. I'm not going to watch Taxi. No. I'm simply not. I'll have lived my entire life without it. Well, you have a lot of time on the planet. I think people are going to stop creating content in 2063. And then we'll have to watch Taxi. I would love that. All right, let's get into real. Okay. Emily's going to host that event for wrongly convicted people. And that's because she's no longer practicing law. She never started. So that's, that's cool. I think she started. But she, no, no, she got her law degree. And then she wanted to spend more time with her kids. One of which she didn't know, couldn't read and was in the fourth grade. Yeah. So he's 12. She's very involved. She was 12. And she was like, I got the most heartbreaking news. My son's not autistic. I just. didn't know that he couldn't read. Right. And he may be autistic and what she's going through

is very, very real and it's very, very scary. But also, yeah, I mean, how do you know your kid? You know that he can't read. My wife and I read books to both of our kids every night. And guess what? I don't want to fucking do it. I don't want to do it, but I need to read the book to the kids so the kid starts reading. Yeah. And I, you know, I've been reading books to Lucy and I got to say, you know, where the wild things are is great, but, um, it's, it's horrible message. That kid's a little asshole. The kid is a little asshole. The, the, the, the guy from into thin air or, or whatever that fucking book is where he goes out into the Alaskan wilderness and then he eats the wrong potato sprout and shits himself and dies. He actually, uh, yeah, he ate some flowers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He also killed that cow and let it rot. The moose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, Max is like, but most of the book is like, is the, the, the, the, that all of the monsters have and they're you can't even read anything they're just it's they're just having a ruckus well they're having a pile and then and then and then he fucking leaves and they're all sad and he's like fuck you i'm leaving i'm gonna go get some food it's a horrible message horrible horrible get in the comments let us know if we don't get it i mean anyways all right uh we meet anthony the exonnery again i remember him from like two seasons ago uh he wants to go to mechanic school now, and this is what the fundraiser will pay for. It's a noble cause, but I'm sure Anthony's

going to do okay with the $30,000 pittance after he adds that to his $20 billion lawsuit for imprisoning him wrongfully for 18 years. Okay, can't, this was an overarching question I had about the episode. These people are like walking around, like I need money to, uh, to go to mechanic school. You know, the GI Bill was a very, very a beautiful thing that this country did when it was great. How are these fucking people not getting compensated to go to trade school if they've been wrongly convicted for 15? I will say this. This is why some of our governance is evil. Yeah.

They will sometimes, because they don't want to make that pay out, they'll go, all right, look here, Anthony. Yeah, it looks like you're innocent. We fucked up. mistakes we fucked up and i'm really sorry i know that you've been in sing sing for 17 years and have gotten stabbed four times by three different toothbrushes but but uh we're trying we're really we're really uh having an issue here because we want to let you out but we don't want to pay 18 million dollars so why don't you sign this piece of paper saying that you can't sue us civilly for this and we'll kind of say that we both had problems right right right but i didn't have any

problems. Yeah, but you want to get out of here, don't you? You're going to have a problem if you're still in here. You've been stabbed four times with three different toothbrushes, so sign the papers. Are you sure, Rich? Are you sure? Yeah. So that might have been what happened.

It's so fucked up. They actually did this to a girl. We watched a dateline on it where I was like, she should sue the shit out of them. And they actually had her say that while I'm not exonerated saying I'm not guilty, they're going to let me out. but I can't sue you guys. It's truly gross. So, yeah, more on that later.

Gretchen looks like a fairy, but we have to get to this lunch wherein Damra shows up looking like a B-boy. She's about to throw some cardboard down on the ground and just fucking rip it the fuck up. Well, Dylan, she's distressed because Teddy has cancer. And Darya is off to college, which is not a college.

I went there. It's the hardest thing that she's ever had to deal with. Well, and that's funny you say that, Dylan, because she wasn't stressed out that her other daughter hasn't. spoken to her for ten years to be fair to Tamara i think that she's still very very stressed about that but um no one really the issue that she's having is that this is such a dark period and no one else cares oh yeah meaning that she would like to be even more of a gravitational pull of

attention and the fact that it's not working is making her resent the other women throw her into orbit red bull can you do something Opposite. Can you do something with Tamara Judge? Put her up on a ramp, tell her it's okay, and let's just see what happens. She might survive it. Who knows? Yes. Launch her to Mars. It'll be our first

reality TV star if launched to Mars. She'll bump into that fucking Tesla. She obviously, they'll hit a goddamn asteroid. She might do it. Okay. Now, Meatball brings up the last time that Tamrat was emotionally drained like this. It was when

Gina looked like Ricky Rocket from the drummer of poison. That was a horrible look. Boy, she's come a long way, and she still looks awful. She looked like she had bruises on her knuckles, but we didn't see her knuckles, but it looked like she really knew her way around ricotta, you know? So, um, we talk about how Tamara has quit the show five times. Uh, 11. 11, yeah. And she says that she's hurt and, um, and that you can't say that you can't trust her, right? Because even though she has done investigative work on every single one of these women, kind of like an Epstein light, right? Just... There's a list. Just getting dirt on people,

getting dirt on people. And to say, knowing her scheme that you can't trust her is a disgusting thing. And she hates you for it. But we get back to Oregon Trail and Emily. Oh, Gretcher thinks Tamrat's a narcissist during this conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm only saying this because I'll forget. You know I can't stand the Debrose, right? Terry, he must be listening to this podcast and know I'm mocking him. He's trying to be a real human being now.

He went on a podcast and said, I love being famous. I love the attention. It's the right amount of famous. I'm filthy rich. By the way, my wife and all her castmates hate doing this show and they're doing it for money. Really? There's something that when you're real and we know you're being real in that moment. A million percent.

It connects us. Yeah. Makes you a human being. Good. He did that this week. Good for Terry, man. Yeah, good for Terry. And Terry, you are looking like Frankenstein right now.

Uh-huh, sure, sure, sure. And I don't think that's a good advertising for, you know, he's a, he fixes people's faces. Yeah, well, he's getting up there. He looks like Frankenstein, not the guy, Dr. Franks said, like, after they cut the guy's head off. The monster, you're talking about the monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and that monster was extremely scary. The initial one?

Yeah. Oh, the one that Jacob Allorty will be playing. Oh, is Jacob Allorty doing Frankenstein? Oh, my God. You haven't seen that trailer? Is he hot Frankenstein? Well, he's, uh, yeah, he's kind of good looking, I think. And then they cut his head off and they square it out like Frankenstein does.

And he goes, oh, no way. I think so. And, uh, Guillermo del Toro is directing it. It's quite the vision. You know, can I say it with Guillermo de Toro? Hit or miss. Lots of misses. Get the, there's too many creatures.

I don't give a shit about the creatures, okay? Pan's Labyrinth was good. I'll give you that. It's fantastic. But fucking shit. Pan's Labyrinth, is that World War I or World War II? I don't know.

It might have been like the Spanish Civil War or something. I don't know. Couldn't figure out what the war was about. There was some war going on. That guy was not happy. Oh, no, no. Remember when the general? Yeah, the general.

Remember when she cuts his face open? Well, he kills her. Oh, sorry. He does. Yeah, he does. he kills her that's right and is it all okay or no she's dead well then she goes to be the queen of the kingdom the fairy kingdom that's not real that's right so she's she's dead she's dead yeah it's sad ending yeah you saw it calen it's my favorite movie but it's funny watching what war

i believe it's like the spanish civil war it's neither world or one or okay now i'm whole and then that bread that little bread creature was that that that wasn't real right, Kaila? Well, that's kind of the whole point of the movie. You don't really know what's real and what isn't. So it can be taken either way. Is it sad or is it happy? Well, the, the, the guy with the eyes, that guy's real. Is he? Yeah, that guy's real as shit. Sad movie. What was that water one with the shape of water? Did you like that one? Eh, not great. Now, all right. Anyways, we're going to move on. Yeah, sure. Or where are we? Debrough gets there for lunch. Oh, yeah. I want to talk about what the women order

really quickly. Meatball gets a chef salad with salmon on top. Everyone's just eating protein. Gina, are you an 80-year-old woman living in Boca Raton? What kind of fucking order is that? Salad with salmon on top of it. I think... My wife is buying those salmon like rounds now that you can cook in a microwave.

She ate that fucking thing in our bedroom, our space. Do you know what that does to a space? Salmon? Remember what happened the last time someone... torture me with salmon. I had to have sex with their daughter. Yeah. I had a co-worker named Diane.

She used to cook salmon every day, and she'd do fat-free butter on top of it. Cook it for a minute and a half. It would stink the whole communal lunch room up. And I'm like, Diane, I need to have sex with your daughter because you did that to me. There's a guy at the studio three times a week. And I don't always catch him,

but it's in such a regular pattern. Like when I see him, he's always, He's always doing that. So I would imagine that his numbers are through the roof. Inhumane, disgusting criminal. Inhumane, I mean, kind of like, it's a true disconnect from the rest of the world to do that. Yeah, it's the same person that uses a public restroom and they don't flush.

They know what they're doing. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I just, what was happening was I needed to try some stuff on at the gap, so I pissed on the floor. There's a lot of animals running around. Yeah. Animales.

All right. So H.D. joins Meatball and Tamrat. Meatball says Tam feels overwhelmed by the lack of compassion. And H.C. tells Tamrat, look, I'm one of your best friends. And Tamrat pushes back. And that's when Tam is really upset because the pylon was in front of Gretcher's. There's nothing worse than one of your enemies seeing you take shit from all.

It's so telling that that that's the real issue that Tamara had with it. Yes. And she says that she's not sure that she can work through all of this heartbreak. Okay. With the show for the 11th time. Emily tells Gretchen that she mentioned the whole recording thing. And this really sets Gretchen off because remember, there is barely any difference between Tamara and Gretchen. We've just had more exposure to Tamara.

Gretchen does the same shit. Let's get to Shannon Mador. Well, I was going to say, I do love how much Emily hates Katie. And I think Emily hates Katie because Katie's hot. No, no. I do. I think that's the sole reason. Katie has done, look, she can point to, I didn't like that your daughter was in my house

saying to my kids and then lying that my kids hate the Debrose, which I believe they were absolutely repeating what their parents say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But other than that, people have done way worse to Emily and she's still okay with him. She is really trying to get her thrown off this show by icing her. She's got a bug up her out. She's trying to ice her out. Yeah, she really, really is.

Smearing off, I see her out. Sorry. Okay, so we get to Shannon Bador and Archie, who takes a shit on Jen's front lawn. Two shits, actually. Bador. I only have one big. And Jen says that when she looks at Shannon, she starts laughing, us too. Us too, Jen.

What's that, Archie? There's a fire in the bank building. No. You don't need to hire that Fokka fucking con woman, Kiyokou, or whatever her name is. Patty's been talking to Archie the entire season. Archie just said Tamrat, he says that his mom's SP just polished off a 12-pack of Dosecis, and she made him go in the car with her. Right?

Kukuku's a fraud. She is. Good for her, though. Yeah, her weekends are filled with a bunch of nutty braids with animals where she gets to go over there and go, oh, yeah, you know, my wife is a therapist.

therapist for people and we were watching that she said you know what makes me so sad i guarantee you she makes more money than me guarantee you 100% just rolling around orange county talking to fucking dogs with gout 500 uh yeah for a two hour session you can invite all your friends over all your other crazy friends yep and they'll i'll talk to your dogs and tell tell them what they think about yeah that one wants to she's fucking drunk that one wants to fucking be picked up more that one uh wants a brother. Oh, wow. Just farts and leaves.

I mean, this is such a crazy thing that these people are doing, but it's fun. So, listen, we go dog by dog. Oh, you want to know what that one was? That was, was it Rosie, aka Willow? Willow, yeah. She was telling Kiyokuku. I'm dying. No, well, no, she was like, this is where the money that Ryan said, she was trying to lead her to the cellar.

what's that willa she said oh uh because she doesn't know she's not talking to will she's like oh she wants some more cookies oh okay so you're saying you actually do speak i can hear yeah you should pay me five hundred dollars an hour so it's like parcel tongue but for fat dogs that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah uh the the golden retriever beautiful amber golden retriever uh beautiful coat um the therapist in right out of the gate you know that we're off to a shaky start because she says that this dog feels as though it's a gift and um which is like that's such a complicated consciousness just the the notion of being a gift for these people you know it's man's best friend man um

but then we get to fat willow and then we get to fat willow and then we we get to Archie, who is really only screaming about how his life is in danger constantly. Well, she hits a home run as far as SB. Oh, what's that, Archie? You don't want a best friend? You don't want a brother? No, he wants out of this fucking house. Sorry, Archie, you have to deal with that.

No. Fucking con woman. I'm going to grab a white claw. Archie sounds like he's having a lot of fun. But he does want a brother. And so Shannon Bador is going to have two dogs. Now, she does ask a lot of stuff. Shannon Bador kind of treats this therapist as kind of like Patty,

where this therapist doesn't speak to the dog, right? She just kind of intuits the unsaid things. But Shannon Bador is like, does he like the bags that he's chewing on at the house? I constantly see him chewing these bags. Does he like those? Yes, he does. So let's get to the meeting. You guys are going to Venmo me, right?

Let's get to the meeting of the minds, Katie and Tamara. So they get together for a total of, I think, 41 seconds. By the way, do you miss Katie at this point? This has now been four episodes. Yeah, I do. Okay. So they sit down and they cry about how the rest of the cast does not like them because they're both. Liars.

Sketchy bitches. Yeah, sketchy bitches. And this is when Tamara kind of pries or rather just, puts a slot bucket down to collect all of the gossip from Katie. Gretchen is lying about Crazy Wasted, said that she went to the hospital, and Slade is now in charge of the Watergate-style cover-up because of the legal implications.

He's not talking to Matt anymore. Put him on ice. now that he's not a useful tool for him it's too dangerous it's too dangerous okay can't be talking to golf pros now katy says she wants to sit down with slade uh good luck with that good luck with that yeah well um so slade and matt um slade told matt to tell katy to stick to the story and um what a teaser for this moment by the way we've we've teased this twice so we teased it last week, and then we started the episode with the memento kind of tease. We spent more time with meatballs sorting through shoes than we did with these two.

It was definitely an empty bag. It was sad to see. I think everyone's lying in a certain way. Yeah. You can't trust. Everyone's a horrible person. I guess we always come back to that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let's get to Jen. Let's get to Jen. She's hanging out with Rita. And what I tell you? She finds a random $100 bill. Gee, yeah, they're just falling out of people's pockets. It's such a good point, Pat. Rita is trying to tell Jen where the bodies are. That's so crazy. And there probably are bodies. Maybe one, one and a half. So let's get to the junior cookies with QR codes and the Treasure Project, Treasure, what, Trevor Project? Trevor Trevor Project event.

Youth crisis. We can all agree that she says that we can all agree that kids in crisis need help. No, I disagree. Just the fuck, brother. What?

They don't need help. They can figure it out. But I love that this place has a hotline because evidently we've canceled our national one. It's, I think they said that it was

too expensive. Can't do it. Can't have the trannies on phones. Can't do it. No, I don't, not defending that person, but I think this might have been filmed before that cancelation.

Who knows? All right. So let's get to Emily and the director of the Innocent Center and the other exoneries. We talked about it. It's really disgusting to me that these people are struggling this

hard. And that is the only explanation for it. They must have to sign some mediation agreement or something. Ugh, God. So, well, props to Emily for this, I know I made fun of her, but I'm kind of glad this is the new focus of her storyline and not Luke's eating habits, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it does go back to Luke's eating habits right here because she says that, you know, she finds out a story through one of these exoneries

that the first time he held his daughter was when she was three years old and it's so fucking heartbreaking to think about and it takes her back to Luke and she just thanks God because even though he likes white rice too much she gets to see him every day. And she's involved in his life

to such a degree that she has no clue that he is illiterate. that's that's counting your blessings that's mommy all right so we get ready for the ho-down Jen is getting glam she also has no money so that's interesting Shannon is going to wear a duster kind of like Neo

but with more turquoise you know Neo Neo from Matrix yeah yeah yeah Shannon Bador looks like Neil you're comment on that I want to know what the fuck Terry did to his face. It looks like he does look like Colonel Sanders.

He does look like Colonel Sanders. Well, Colonel Sanders had very kind of blushy racist skin, you know. Right. That's why they call it KFC. They did a rebrand. Oh, Kentucky Fried Chicken was... Mm-hmm. Oh, was that?

That's KFC, and it just blew up. Yeah, it's doing really well. Wait, what are you talking about? Colonel Sanders was the old version of Kentucky Fried Chicken. Yeah. And then when they just, because it used to say Kentucky Fried Chicken, now it's KAMC. Has his face and stuff. Yeah, you had to get rid of that guy.

Yeah. Well, I mean, think about what he did. Oh, the other look I want to comment. Yeah, right. The other comment, Meatball shows up where or not? I mean, he stole the food of the people he was enslaving and then started a fast food franchise. Is that what happened?

Pretty much, yeah. Oh, that's son of a bitch. It's son of a bitch. Well, I'll tell you what, what he did is. not as nearly as bad as what Meatball did to us. I also am not sure that he had slaves because I think he was around in like 1920 or something. Yeah, somewhere around it. But he's still a horrible person.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not as bad as Meatball who showed up wearing what Richie Sambore wore in the bad medicine, Bon Jovi music video. Patrick, if you could see my notes. Yeah. If you could see my notes. Cailin, was that what you were thinking? My mic was off.

Absolutely. Why was your mic off? Were you eating back there? Chewing gum. It's been a long day. It has been a long day. What kind of gum are you chewing? Micotine gum.

Oh. Do you want a tic-tac? No. What happened with those patches? They kept sliding off. It's annoying. Can I tell you something? They're advertising a get-off alcohol pill now.

It's called ore or something. Is it a suppository? What's that? You shove it up your ass? No, no. Hopefully not. But if they do a patch for slowly dispensed alcohol, I'll be their biggest buyer.

Yeah. I want to get off the booze by the time I'm in my mid-50s, working towards that. That's the worst time to get off the booze. You think so? Yeah, I mean, you're supposed to kick back, right? Well, you wind down. But now people are literally to be 100.

You take the patches off when you hit like 67. Well, Dr. Drew always says there's no helping you if you're in the full throes of addiction by 65. He tells his clients, like, just fuck it, go for it. Yeah, yeah. That's why he has such a good track record on that show's Celebrity Rehab, where I think everyone dies. Yeah, half did.

Yeah, thanks for coming to this rehab. You know, there's nothing I can do for you. You're a drug addict. But we're going to film you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you can't smuggle drugs in here. Maybe you can.

Stephen Adler, the drummer for Guns and Roses. Yeah, it's just, It's just a kilo. You know, it's funny? I thought he had a speech impediment. Turns out he was on crack. Yeah. That's why he talked like that.

He showed up to the first episode of Celebrity Rehab Afterhouse, high on crack. And he bragged, he opened up a tinfoil thing and said, this is crack. I'm bringing it in the house. Wow. That's how bold he was. Yeah, no, he had a really fun time on that show. Did subsequently pass away. No, he's so alive.

He's alive. He's a lot. Yeah, Stephen Adler's appetite for destruction. He's on tour as we speak. Oh, he's on tour. Yeah, well, he has a Guns and Roses cover band that plays with him, yeah. Still alive. Cool.

Sometimes you think, like, wow, you're on crack. You won't be around too long. And then the fuckers live outlive everybody. I know. And we're worried about fucking microplastics on our cutting boards. Stephen Adler smokes crack. Maybe it keeps them alive. All right, Slade and Gretchen, they talk about Tamara and Eddie.

And Slade says that speaking on behalf of the guys, we don't respect Eddie. Slade, um, who are you talking about? about you don't have any friends you sit at home and fucking jerk off all day and spend gretchen's money well what guys are you talking about here's one to say about slade and gretchen um them being away i like them the more they're on camera i'm reminded that i think they're horrible people yeah yeah you know who's not a horrible person elizabeth vargas i did you do you know i have a celebrity crush on her really she's my uh celebrity pass why'd you bring her up she was on the television show what show this one yes she was on this episode

yeah kaelin is he messing with me i don't know how did i not see her elizabeth vargas was on this television show oh okay she was in a pod of i don't know fucking bitches talking oh okay yeah and they they were talking about how much they hate each other and stuff oh wow and uh and somebody rolled by and was like oh look it's elizabeth vargas and who is that She's a newscaster. She used to host Dateline. Kellen, can you beep out when I said she was in a pot of bitches? I can mark it for you.

Can you mark that, please? Thank you. I'm going to forget about that mark. There's a lot of marks. I think we're rounding home here. Yeah, absolutely. So a producer asked Tamara out a good question. Why do you believe Katie now?

Here's my take. Two things can be true at once. Katie is a sketchy bitch. Slate and Gretchen are horrible people and they used Katie as a useful idiot For sure Katie is really bad at this Yeah she is

But they Oh yeah there was this moment with Elizabeth Vargas Where she goes at such a great cause I read the pamphlet And Tamara goes what's the cause She has no idea what we're all here for Elizabeth Vargas does Tamara doesn't She's just showing up to film

So Bador gets there and we raise a glass, but Gretcher's is not here yet. And Emily asked Tamara, if she's next? What does that mean? Oh, oh, she's sitting outside and she's like, you're such a gatling gun of controversy and mischief that I don't know if I'm next, you know, I'm your next target, right?

And that's when Gretchen arrives. Tension is palpable. Yeah, Slade has a lovely, just endearing moment. moment with Terry where he says, um, my wife is a hot cowgirl who I know will ride a pony when she gets home. That's gross. Uh, you have a bowling ball of a torso and I don't want to think about that. Okay. Uh, we line dance in the smoke. And then we get to this meeting between Slade and Gretchen and Tamara and Eddie. And this is a massive problem. Well, it wasn't really, uh, would you describe it as, uh, I would describe it as Gretchen and Slade trying to approve. Uh, I would describe it as Gretchen and Slade trying to

approach them and then walking away. Now, Tamara, if you're going to be a, if you're going to be a C, if you're going to be just a horrible to everyone you film with, you cannot walk away from the conflict that you sow. That is unacceptable. And that's what really tips Tamara. over the edge, right? Lisa Bador, not to always go back to her, but she ruins people's days, weeks, months. Lysa Bador? Yeah. Or Lisa, Lisa Barlow. Lisa Barlow, yes. But when they confront her about it, most often she'll sit in the pocket at a table and just brawl. Yes. Right? And she'll dig her heels in and fight. Shannon Madore, Tamara, Stormoffs. I'm not doing this. Fake quitting. Back to filming.

the next day when the sun is in the sky. Can I say this? This is what sucks about this world of reality TV because you are literally on the fame cycle or fame levels. You're like in the D category. Can you imagine doing something that most people know who you are and then you turn to production and go like,

I'm getting fuck with. Do you mind getting rid of these people? Because like Mariah Carey, third year into the music business would be like, I don't want any people in the hallway. And they'll go, let me clear it for you. When you're a TV reality star, there is no respect like that.

It's like Tamrat, like, but she feels the power. I see what you're saying. Right. So she's got enough pedigree in this game to where she thinks she can call the shots, but you're always just a pig. You're just a D-list celebrity that no one respects. Some PA is like, ah, let me go ask my boss if I can do this for you. Oh, you want a bottle of water?

Like there's no respect in the reality world. Right, right. Yeah. And that's how it should remain. Mm-hmm. Well, they raised a bunch of money. If I'm Anthony the exonerary, I would ask production, do you mind not putting that as my Chiron? What was the Chiron?

Anthony the Exonery. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A hell of a wrestling. We had a guest. That's a great wrestling. We had a guest on, I think, in our early years of the podcast.

I forget what his name is now, but he was accused of having sex with another drunk cast member. Oh, yeah. What was his name? I forget. I hate to be a dick because I hung out with him for a minute after that. But the title of our podcast was the guy who definitely didn't rape a girl. And I didn't. I don't think I had anything to do.

No, no, no, no. He reached out and had said, do you mind not calling the podcast that? Yeah. We really weren't sure what we were doing back then. Come on our show. you remember it was Corinne and whatever his name was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, that's so crazy. Yeah, I mean, in the early days, I mean, and I guess we haven't changed much or gotten much better, but I remember when we did an episode with Sulk and we just talked about 9-11 for like 25 minutes,

and we're like, we've got to cut that out of the podcast. All right, that's it for us. Jump in the comments. Let us know what you thought about the episode. Let us know. Does Ruby need to be here? Have you seen the Jacob Allorty trailer? Does Ruby need to be here? You've got to be kidding me. Have you seen it? Have you seen the Jacob Polarity trailer?

Okay. What else? Are you? How many buzz balls down are you? Two. No, I'm talking about fans. Oh, yeah, yeah. Are you enjoying your buzz ball?

See you later. I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Pat say goodbye. Later, guys. Hey, Lynn. You know,