Another Below Deck Podcast - Ron Funches is a Faithful | The Traitors S4 E6

Episode Date: January 24, 2026

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It's left over after the shark is his face. Yeah, he's like, young. Yeah, well, there's another fancier word for it called mutualism. So when my book in Traders comes out in 2027, we're going to refer to that in the encyclopedia is trade dualism. That's when Ron and Rob are going to bond and they have an understanding. They don't call each other out on it. Rob is going to carry Ron to the end, right?

You keep the faithful around and you protect each other. Got it. Trade Julesism. Hello and welcome to the last free episode of Zatritas. Oh, sorry. Tweet. Zatratas.

Hey, Robs. Hi, Dale. Hi, Pat. How are you? Great. I wanted to say thank you to Kailen for bringing us these delicious lacquered black coffees. We're going to need it because we've got a lot of recording to do today. I have a splitting headache.

So what I'm going to do? I'm going to slurp that down. I'm going to smoke this to counteract the migraine. And then we're going to, I think just having a really fun time talking about Zetra. This is your champing. Yes. I want to let the audience know that the way that this podcast is being able to be held together and the production values that it does have.

I mean, I've heard the audio on some of these other podcasts. Oh, my God. Is it horrible? we have to pay Kaelin. Ruby lives in New York, and she's amazing, and while she is an equal co-host, she has to be compensated for her services. Not very much.

Well, here's my point. People, you love what we do here. For once, maybe you've been thinking about it. Traders is going behind a paywall now. Love is blind starts in two weeks. We do a show called APS. I just threw down my best PMZ I've ever done last week.

Can you just finally pull the, trigger and sign up for patreon.com slash another podcast network. Yeah, the best thing we do is a patreon.com slash another podcast network, the greatest things. Traders, love is blind, Kalin's nudes, Ruby's food reviews, Ruby sit down with Zora. Mom, Donny is at patreon.com slash another podcast network. So there's lots of really, really good stuff there. Go donate a little or a little bit more. Guys, tonight we have to break down episode six of the traders.

Now, Ruey's a big survivor person. I've seen a couple of, like, you know, great seasons of Survivor. I don't tune in every season. The challenge had legendary moments. I'm not that green when it comes to the landscape of these kinds of competition shows. You're referring, I think so, to kind of the judgment of who they're going to kick out. Is that where you're going with this? No, no, no, just the quality of the show.

Understood. God, you threw me off. to be fair, you're smoking weed. No, no, no. The weed hasn't taken thought. One of the side effects of weed is an inability. To be fair, I'm not vulnerable enough for that to actually work what you're doing right now. So that was a banana peel and I fell on it.

I'm not a rookie. Ruby, can you believe he has the gall to come after me for interrupting someone in the middle of a thought? No, and I do stand by our original assessment. you lost your train of thought, you are too high. And that's okay. Okay, well, agree to disagree. I think he lost that thought too. I didn't, man.

I completely freaking didn't. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to compose myself again. I'm not a rookie when it comes to these shows, okay? And I'm here to say, this is the best of these shows the reality world has to offer. There is nothing like this television program. it is reigning supreme. The episode that we got this evening was, you know, people talk about roller coaster rides, okay? I'm not talking about a Disneyland adventure, California adventure

roller coaster ride with really just one loop. I'm talking about X2, okay? I'm talking about people are having seizures next to you because they shouldn't have gone on the ride. That's what kind of roller coaster ride the traders is, okay? This roundtable, unbelievable. I did this episode actually 98 shoulder taps, and the two things that I took from it the most, I am falling deeply in love with the Snake Charmer Robsie. Love him so much. And I'm kind of also falling deeply in love with one Colton Underwood. I just, I don't, I don't think we've seen gameplay this fun in a while.

And by that, I think you're referring to horrifically bad. No, I don't think it's horrific. Colton almost got, he got out by the skin of his teeth this episode. We'll talk about it when we get into the episode. I think he's actually playing really, really, maybe not well, but really interestingly. Not that any shoulder taps. Ruby. Hated that.

I couldn't agree with the beginning more. This to me is Real Housewives of Salt Lake City of these game shows. It doesn't get better than this. They give it also even the, I have to say, Pat, I was thinking about you during the challenge. It's usually a TAS for me. This time, it was not terrible. Very fun. It wasn't a true waste of my time, you know?

I loved this episode. This might be my favorite episode yet. There was a very famous survivor episode where they have to go to rocks at Tribal. This to me was that. Oh, wow. I loved it. Colton is fun to watch on TV because as we speak about often, we as a group, as society, you need someone to dislike.

It makes you stronger. Don't come for my girl, Lisa. I don't like the way he's speaking to her. I don't like his little whips. I didn't rude, but fun. I agree. Rob is, Rob makes me scared for your daughter, my niece.

and scared for any future daughters that I may have because I agree. God help us all with that man. This is, I believe, the best we can do is white man is Robsie. Don't aim higher. I don't think you should. I agree. And maybe he's a horrible person in some way that we don't know. If he is, don't tell us.

Don't write in. No, no, no, no. No, no. Keep. Well, I mean, he went on Love Island. I mean, enough said, right? exactly. Can I ask you a question?

Can you give your shoulder taps? Can you give your shoulder taps, please? Yeah, 98. Agreed. Was it the poop? Is that why there's animosity right now? Because I feel like I'm in a pincor movement. It was the clogging.

You clogged it? Hang on a second. Hang on a second. How many times have I been to your house? 4,000. How many times have I pooped at your house? Three. How many times have I clogged your toilet?

Just this once. So what is with... I mean, do we not... You know what I feel like right now? I feel like poor run funches. We've all made mistakes. You've made this mistake. Why am I getting attacked right now?

I'm letting it go. I'm brushing it off my shoulder. That remains to be seen, but I look forward to it. My shoulder taps. Yeah. Dylan, you inspired me to just throw away my shoulder tap thoughts and just go on with other thoughts. You know, if you really break down shows like Survivor and Big Brother to their core,

they're actually a study of human behavior and how we'd interact with ourselves, kind of put into an isolated box and what we do if we had to survive and end up as just one or a few of us remaining. Am I right? Yeah, yeah, I believe you're right. But I got a little distracted because now I actually am under the influence of marijuana. and I was wondering, sorry, I was wondering, um, how done are you with that Diet Pepsi? Why, do you want one?

Well, I need an ashtray, but I was just wondering how close you are to being done with it. Half, halfway. Halfway. Okay. Take your time. I don't want to rush the Diet Pepsi. And also, why Dipepsi. Why was that purchased?

Well, you know, one thing with people that are filthy, disgusting alcoholics, when they give up alcohol, their next go-to is caffeine and sugar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we don't need to get into. Sure. Yeah. Okay. So I love that at certain points in this gameplay, people like Johnny,

aka Pee Wee Herman, I don't know what it was. Maybe it was him emulating Greta Garbo with that outfit on. He comes out of nowhere, starts swinging votes, becoming the fucking alpha in the group. The alpha of the dumb clues. I'm just saying... The most frustrating part of this episode was the dumb eight or whatever the fuck they were called.

My point is, though, comes out of nowhere and just kind of takes over. And I'm just saying not that he couldn't have been that person from the beginning, but it's just like people... You never know who's going to become the person that will... You know, in like Walking Dead shows like that. who will put a pike through your head when you're not looking or shoot you. Right.

Johnny could be that guy. So, I love the episode. Geez, is there anything else here? I think that's it. I loved it. Oh, one production thing I noted, the roundtable, I think they make that goddamn thing smaller as the players dwindle. Because they're all sitting close to each other.

Just a fun little note for you guys to, as a little bit. or watchers of the show, watch that table get smaller as the show goes on. I feel like, you remember when you got deja vu last week when we were talking about commiserate? I feel like something happened because for the longest time, I thought commiserate just meant like to get together and hang out kind of thing. I did too. And literally how, though, if you actually.

And that's why I'm worried about it because he's talking about this small table. I go, that can't be true because the tables the table wouldn't be smaller. But commiserate completely changed definitions in this new dimension that we both are in. Now, yeah. Yes, I feel the same way. My entire life I thought commiserate was exactly how Dylan's defining it. And now it's not. We may have switched dimensions, Dylan.

I honestly think we did. I want to make it clear very quickly to you and anyone listening, it never was just to hang out. Oh, but that's the thing, though. you didn't come from where we came from. So I think, yeah, we're from another dimension. Okay. Got it. Yeah.

Sorry. All right. Did I say 42 shoulder taps? You did. And that's, uh, that's a score. Whoa. It's his. It's his shoulder taps.

Do you want to amend the shoulder tops? Are you good with those shoulders taps? I'm good with those. All right. So, um, let's get to breakfast. We pick up at breakfast. Is there no tariffs on fucking salmon? Who eats this much goddamn fish for breakfast?

There's tariffs on everything. So yes, there are tariffs on salmon. Go ahead. What I have learned from doing some other listening is that the breakfast options are limited and horrible for fat, fat Americans. And so salmon, smoked salmon is one of the few familiar good items on that table, which is why when they see it, everybody says, get this down my gullet right now. Oh, that's right, because there's fucking beans over there. They put beans on the table out for breakfast.

I, uh, it's like, I don't want those. When I went to Peru and at the hotel we were staying at, they'd have like a breakfast platter down there. Yeah. It'd just be a bunch of slabs of ham for breakfast. Yeah. Not bacon. I wouldn't eat that either, but I'd just be staring at a platter full of ham.

I'd be like, who wakes up in the morning and says, I want to eat a bunch of ham? Southerners, Portuguese, um, evidently Peruvians. Oh, and pickles too. Yeah.

I mean, that sounds like a delicious breakfast to me, but, you know, I'm not tongue blind and I know that pork reigns supreme in the protein kingdom. Anyways, um,

I thought it was like an MK. Ultra thing. I'm like, what's going on with salmon? Why are they like, why are they trying to imprint salmon on us? It's really, really confusing.

Uh, anyways, so, is in the second grouping of people. And shockingly, she kind of like gets that. She can't just go like full Lois's daughter. She has to just kind of like slow play it, which I didn't think that Renna was capable of doing.

Once again, we're mean to Ron. And I'm so happy that we have lovely people like Katie Cole on our Patreon who wrote in all caps, why is everyone being mean to Ron? It's making me cry. And I almost cried tonight. because it is just wall to wall. Johnny walks in with Stephen Coletti of Wintry Hill and Ron, I think,

and everybody's complimenting Johnny's outfit. Then they compliment Coletti's outfit. Ron's got a lovely jacket on and no one says anything about the garment. And I'm just like, I mean, when Rob said sometimes the loneliest place is in a crowd, I just feel horrible. I did too. There was a moment and we'll get to it when him and Rob were playing chess with one another.

It was beautiful. It was actually 40 chess that was going on there and I'll discuss it. I thought that there was, by the way, you know I'm writing a book that's coming out in 2027 about the guide to traders. There's a whole encyclopedia of words and gameplay.

I'll get to it when we get there. Get excited about that. Before we move on. That's called the tease. Okay, Rubes, go ahead. I was just going to say the chess moment for me made me think and one of the more heartbreaking things was that if he stuck around a little bit more, Ron would be, Ron would be calling Rob out, I think probably before anybody else would. I really do. I thought he was a lovely person and it

made me sad. Think about if we could just for a moment go back to the dimension that Pat and I are from and you're not from and that's why you don't have any empathy for us in this confusion over commiseration. I don't blame you. Imagine if we had this brotherhood, this of mice and men kind of brotherhood, and we get further and further and further along, the narrative there would be unbelievable.

All right. Let me break down the game, film. I mean, a finale with one of those two. Dylan's painting a picture, and we've seen it before, and this is what it is. When they were playing Tress, I know I'm getting ahead of myself.

But while we're there, it was a traitor and a faithful bond occurring there. It's kind of like in Mother Nature, it's a symbiotic relationship taking place. Yeah, it's like those bugs that go in the fish brain. Or that fucking freeloader fish that's glued to the Great White Shark. You know, he's just, he basically, he cleans the shark's body, you know, the skin all day long. And then he eats. Yeah, Ramora. He eats the dead seals taint that's left over after the shark eats his face.

Yeah, he's like, young. Yeah. Well, there's another fancier word for it called mutualism. So when my book in Traders comes out in 2027, we're going to refer to that in the encyclopedia is trade jewelism. That's when Ron and Rob are going to bond and they have an understanding. They don't call each other out on it. Rob is going to carry Ron to the end, right?

You keep the faithful around and you protect each other. Got it. Trade Jewelism. Patent. Fuck yeah. Yeah. And I want to kind of. a reverse course a little bit and maybe use a different book to describe their friendship

because of vice and men kind of implies that one of them is a large mentally handicapped man and I don't think that of either of them. I think they're great. So yeah, I don't know. I couldn't see Ron killing bunny rabbits. No, I couldn't either. So Johnny Ware. is doing algebra. If we get eight people, we can have ownership of the roundtable. That is Johnny Ware, that is so cute.

And dangerous as fuck. Johnny Ware, that is the cutest thing. I mean, how naive do you have to be to think you can get that many people to coordinate this early in the game? I mean, it's just, it's cute. In my earlier years, if you guys remember,

when I was trying to figure out how to win this game, I was thinking like Johnny, I'd say, okay, you get five or six people to commit that we are going to vote in line with one another. And so what if there's a secret trader in there? You're going to get you all agree to always vote in line with each other, and then you can slowly pick everybody off. Even if you're taking faithfuls out,

you're at least eliminating the pool. Who cares? Faithfuls, traders, you're just limiting the pool down. You're technically everybody's your enemy. You just whittle it down until there's just five of you, then you all split apart and you can kill each other. Right. Am I right?

Yeah. But, but Robs, go ahead because I think you're on the same page as me. It's just too, it's too difficult a task to get eight people to all go one direction. It is. Clearly. Everyone is too self-assured in their thoughts. Like, I love Kristen, that the chef, I think. Yeah.

I love her. I think she's fucking great. She's so off with Colton. And I believe that she thinks. when she goes to bed at night, like, it's going to be so fucking sweet when I take this guy out and we, and it won't be because he's a faithful. So I think that's part of the reason that getting the eight people, you have people like Mara who just are, oh my God.

She's a weather vein. I mean, she just, to remind us so hot, so fucking beautiful. Right. But, oh, wow. You know. Yeah, yeah. Eight of them is very hard. Yeah, very, very hard.

So it turns out in a youth suspect, type twist that no one took the shield, which to that I say, boo. By the way, for someone like Alan who loves to way over-explain things, Alan, we could have used a little help here. Would the person that had taken that shield have been called out for it later in the game? That information could have been useful. Right, right, right. Yeah.

You hate him. No, I love him. I just, no, I hate whoever writes the copy. he has to read. They talk about the imperative nature of the Colton elimination. Who is they, Dylan? Right. You're probably referring to the traders because he thinks it's Lisa. Right, right, right. So they got to get rid of him because he's mouthing out. Oh, right. And they're, so they're, they're a little panicky about how they're going to get rid of Colton. At this point, you got to just go with a good old whipping.

This is, this has to be whipped. This cannot be, this cannot be a kill. It's far too obvious. So, meanwhile, Colton, he's a little concerned, because he tells us he took a big swing and a miss at Tiffany and he might be in trouble. And he's also forgetting and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, Michael, too.

You also took a swing at him. Boy, how short our memories on this game. Yeah, it's unbelievable. They're both long and short at the same time because we remember Porsche up, but for some reason we forget yesterday. Now, on the last episode, I went on quite the rant. I was a little concerned I might offend some people about Colton. And then a healthy little baddie slash Patty chimed in and had said Colton actually had

reflected back and admitted that he'd been on Grindr for years before going on The Bachelor. Oh, well, I think that those were, I don't know if they said that. I think weren't those just accusations? No, I think, hey, guys, get in the comments. You know what? I should confirm that because all the stuff that I had said in my rant, I had confirmed first. Yeah. No, I think that there are some people on Grindr that came out and were like, I had sex with that guy in 2015.

Go ahead. And maybe they did. That's neither here nor there. But I do think it's interesting. Like, that isn't concerning to us compared to like, we cannot put trackers on cars. No, we can't do it. We simply can't. do it because because this isn't the born ultimatum right this is uh this is just living in newport

so it's it's close but not quite calm way down um so colton starts back up again he's going about it in a very colton kind of way he's such a bitch about it and it's a little grading to watch but he's like what i really think it's working for him right now it's it's it's it's It's like, I mean, he goes, we'll get to the end, but he's like, eliminate me or I'm taking every fucking shield for the rest of, for the rest of this game. I'm just get it out there. All right. He is doing some like jumping on grenades like it. Well, he's throwing them on the floor and then jumping on that.

That's kind of like a crazy like Sims thing that people do. Him pulling Lisa in that closet. I, wow. Okay. So, um, we get to a little deliberation and we're back on Ron. And people are asking these insanely stupid questions like, is there anything that proves that Ron isn't a traitor? Everything?

Every single thing. Ruby, help. I don't know because I don't know if you're from where they're from. I don't get what's going on. I don't need to be from where you guys are from because this is this flip the question. Is there anything you can say to prove that he is? there's not even dumb clues. Yeah.

You know? They're just, they're hung on that first night of him going for it. And by the way, I'd argue most of you have gone for people at this point too. Okay. The one thing I will give the traders, and I'm not sure that even a majority of them remember that this happened,

but Jam Jam brings it up and the Donna element were forgetting with the Porsche elimination. So it's a dumb clue. And it was so early. in the game. There's no way that he could have known. But also, I get why people are like, we have nothing. We got to go with that. But didn't they all know that it was a secret traitor? So at the beginning, so Ron wouldn't have known that she was a traitor. But they don't, they didn't know if she was the secret traitor. I got you. Ah, thank you. Okay. There you go.

Hey, can I jump in here with catty patty? Yeah, of course. All right. So Natalie, clearly accomplished person, but she is really bad at this in her outfit. It looks like a Halloween, uh, tron costume on Amazon that you bought for 18 bucks. Yeah. Yikos. Or, uh,

a sad trapeze artist costume. I appreciate the effort, girlfriend, but no thanks. Right. All right. That's catty patty. Right.

You're later. Caddy Patty Patty. That's really a boring behavior. No, no, Yikos is right. Yep. Um,

you remind me of the, the guy from, I don't Jonathan Sibrian or whatever from the Kardashian shows that was just a reprehensible human being and would say horrific things to people are you talking about the food guy I think the PR guy who's the guy with the big lips I don't want to the shows uh yeah that the yeah he was he he looks unwell okay uh by the way just to what ruby said no one watches the car Kardashians it's what you vacuum on Saturdays to with it on in the background right Right. I, yeah, I don't genuinely have never even done that. But I, but yeah, that's who catty-patti

reminds me of that guy, that one. You imagine an active viewing of that? Get the goobers. Kardashians are on. Oh, I'm tuning in for Kardashians tonight. Ruby, Natalie's gameplay, you know her better than us. What's going on here? Because I don't know if she, she's quite a follower right now, but she does kind of have a little bit more agency than people like Tara and Stephen Coletti of One Tree Hill. She just seems like she would be better. Yeah, she will be. She also is, she's very outspoken. She reminds me of the, she is the saying like strong beliefs loosely held. So she'll scream it and then be like, I also think this, which is the complete opposite now that I have more information. And then she'll move very quickly on from it.

she did she was right with Lisa she's very bold in her accusations which i think might get her in trouble but if she's aligned with the rape people i was thinking this episode the traders have got to get her out if they don't do so she will side with colton and she'll go after Lisa now because i think she thinks that she's one of them and that's going to be dangerous for her i think forgive me for being crass here but what ruby just described is a scatterbrained loophead I mean, she sounds like a real nutback, you know. So, so what I witnessed, and you're not here in the room, rubs, but it was palpable, quietly palpable. When you were talking about Natalie, he began to roll his eyes and do weird things with his face. And I was wondering if he was going to hijack that,

that idea for his book that is coming out in 2027, or if he thought it was ludicrous, it was the latter. But there's more on Natalie to come. I think she's going to hang around for a while. Let's get to one of the more beautiful moments of the episode, The Of Mice and Men, I'm just going to stick with it, a chess game between Ron and Rob. They're both so sweet to one another in this moment. And they just express a genuine affection for one another. And the kind of remorse that Rob, is overcome with is really, really sweet. And he just says, I think you're a really, really good

person. And Rob is, Ron says you're such a great representative of what the South can be. It's so true. And he's just such a deeply, both of them are deeply insightful, deeply empathetic people. And I just love both of them. I was going to say Ron is the type of person, like people who are always like, I love you guys. Good night. Like Ron is not throwing that out when he was, even when he was saying goodbye to everybody. And he was saying like, even in this scene to Rob that he was like, getting to know you a little bit better has really been a pleasure. It's just these earnest statements.

He's like, I don't fucking know shit about these people. But knowing a little bit more was really fun. And I'm having fun. And it's a bummer. I have to go. I was like, God damn it. I think he's one. He genuinely might be one of the most earnest people on this entire cast.

And it's really sad. Now. do we think it was an act? Because we'll get to the goodbyes at the end. Incredible tactic if it was a tactic and not earnest. It absolutely was a tactic. But I want to say this, rule number two, because I have three, how you survive this.

Okay. Second one is form real bonds and be genuine, because you kept touching on genuine. Ron is doing that here, and he won rob over. Right. And he almost saved his ass. He almost saved his ass. And we'll get to the Rob vote at the end.

But yeah, it was just a, it was two introverted people seeing themselves in the other. And it was a really, really beautiful moment. So at this point, Ron's only hope because he's so resigned to defeat is Johnny Weir's ambitions for algebra and Kristen's ambition towards Colton. Colton goes kind of, oh, this is where he goes bitchy gay again. And it's a really,

really powerful tool. He knows that, so Rina comes into the room and he does to Rina what he did to Rappaport. Just in a group setting, put the pressure on. Now, it puts people off, but what it does is protects him from the traders. Or so we, thinks. And then he makes that move in the van too later on. Right. Which is he basically says, if I'm murdered tonight, it's Lisa. Pretty gutsy. It's a twofold thing because if he's right about this, he's seriously wounding Lisa and he's protecting himself from her. It's a good move. I have to say, it's a Hail Mary that will be definitely in the book and I'll stop talking about my book. No, no, no. I don't want you to stop talking about the book. I think everyone's excited about it. No, they are.

But when a book's that far away, obviously you have publishers and whatnot. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, but I love this and there's probably going to be a chapter. It's all mapped out and whatnot.

But it's a very intelligent move on Colton's part. Yes. Robs, do you agree with us or do you disagree with us actually disagree? 100%. No, I don't. The only issue with this being brilliant and the reason that it's actually not is because he tried to do this three times before and he was off three times. You know, so it's like, oh, now, why would I?

Right, right. But it's very good, great gameplay. You got to be right if you're going to do it. Right. If you're going to swing like you are, Shohei, you must, you must be showhead. You must be showy right now. Oh, I like what Ruby pointed out. So actually, if you're a trader and it, in Lisa, it wasn't one of the traders, I'd be like, let's kill them.

Right. Right. Right. That's such a good point. You have to be so dead on the money. Um, so, um, he and Rob, I think are very, very high level game players because we get in the car and once again, we see Rob just being smarter than everyone. Colton starts up with, Rob is smarter than everybody because he has more information than everyone does. That's the role of, that's the benefit of

being a trader. But a lot of traders do not make use of that. They're too panes. They're too panicked. They're all over the place. Rob is so good at knowing everything that's going on in the game. He's just awesome. But sorry, go ahead. Ruby. When we were sitting in that fucking van and Colton, I think to Natalie was like, look it. And this is annoying. He was like, oh, brilliant point. Incoming. Brilliant point. He was like, look at the people that try to defend Lisa. Look at them. Pay attention to them. And then in the van, he zooms in on Rob. And he was like, what do you think? And hot, hot, sexy little Rob from the backseat just says, possibly. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gave him everything and nothing at the same time. Brilliant gameplay. But yeah, because he knows that if he sticks up for her and she turns out to be a traitor, he's just, he's so acutely aware of the group think that could come as a result of moves. Right. And by the way. And wouldn't you say, sorry, Pat, that a lot of traders, a lot of people we've seen in this position,

in Rob's position would have been like, no, I definitely don't think so. Right, exactly. That poor should, you know, no. Exactly. Not hot Rob. Yes. So anyways. Oh, Dill, I got to clear something up with one of the listeners.

Yeah, of course. For the person that went in the reviews and said, you know, why did you say Rob was dumb? We never said Rob was dumb. I think we said he was on love is blonde or love is love island. Oh, yeah, yeah. Which would insinuate he's stupid. Yeah, that's one of the things that, you know, listen, it's foolish on our part. I don't think it's dumb.

Sometimes you have to make these quick reads, and sometimes they're wrong. Sometimes the linebackers are actually dropping back. He was on Love is Blind. He's from Alabama, and he doesn't really talk a lot. So I think that we, you know. Right. It was a knee-jerk assumption. He's also so fucking hot.

What do you think he's going to be smart? Right, right. Exactly. Exactly. Hey, quick break to tell you guys about the most amazing blanket ever created. Lola. Lola. Lola, we talked about it being the best Christmas gift.

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So shut out. Shut the fuck. Did you see Robbie Hoffman special? No, not yet. Okay. Yeah, she has this great bit where the equation for successful marriages, one hot, one smart. And then you can divvy up the hotness points and the intelligence points. Rob is like, I think he's like, it's kind of unfair.

He's so hot and he's so smart. Okay. So we get to the cabin challenge. We always have one of these, the haunted house challenge. And it's the best challenge of the season, to be frank. Yeah, for me, it always triggers Halloween Horror Nights. And Halloween Horror Nights says two things. One, it weirds me out because people are way too into it and they're way too old to be into it.

I got like people that are 52 like, oh man, no, I, I'm going like four times this week. That side of the coin. And then there's the other side, the people that work for Halloween Horror Nights. Oh, yeah. And they're like the people that year round, they work at a bagel shop. And I'll be like, hey, man, you've been telling me you want to be an actor. Why are you still working at that bagel shop? well, you know, I got to work part time because I, you know, I got to be able to work

Halloween Horror Nights. Okay, okay. So, wait a minute. And we have a lovely father and daughter in our fan group that, that are really into this stuff. And Halloween Horror Nights to me is a little bit like Taylor Swift. So I don't understand. What are we doing paying a lot of money for people in creepy, scary clothing to wheel past us

on knee pads and like stick their tongue out? Like I just would rather go to dinner is just what I'm doing what I'm saying. But really, go ahead. When I was a small child, I had a birthday party where we went to Universal Studio. It's not Halloween horon nights, but we did the mummy. Not a ride. It used to just be an interactive maze where people would jump out at you. And we were young.

A lot of girls cried, but also my father who has aggressive PTSD. Yeah. He had to walk through and remove the actors because he was just going to fucking hit people if they jumped out. And it'll snap. He has to leave places like that. Think of those actors. And they're really, they are so, so scary sometimes. So lovely people.

Wow. Thank God your dad didn't have a machete. Yeah. I know. I don't think they let you in with those. But Universal is a little bit more lax. So I'm not sure. Ruby, by the way, the mummy ride took another victim this week at Disney World.

No. Yeah. What? Yeah. Another day that ends in why. Another death at the most greatest place on earth, whoever the fuck they're tagline is. Wait, wait, wait. You're talking about Universal Studios Orlando.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Sorry. It wasn't Disneyland. Oh, yeah. Sorry, universal. Okay, it's fine. It's fine. Sorry, but I always am fascinated by parks that their rides kill people.

Yes. And it happens all the time. To be fair, she wasn't. was 75. She had no business being on that ride. It terrified me. That's somebody's grandmother that we're talking about. So I want to be respectful, but you can't go on that ride.

You can't. I went on that ride and I almost peeed my pants and I'm an adult. Yeah. Can you imagine Imotep just coming out of the scream and trying to cut you an half? I mean, it's like so scary. That park is like six flags. there are serious fucking roller coasters in that park. And actually, when I went to that park,

my very normal not fucking loser fiancee, we were in line. And when they called us to get onto the roller coaster, he was like, we stepped to the side for a second. He thought he was going to throw up everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that woman shouldn't have gotten on that right.

Yeah, it's so sad. She's dead now. Ruby, she is dead. And we'll see on the other side. You know, we, the, okay. God's at the pearly gates. Why'd you go on the ride?

I was, you weren't supposed to be here for like five more years. Yeah. Who talked to you into that? Yeah. And then Satan's like, when we were used, we went to Universal Studios, Florida, and I really wanted to go on this ride, Double Dragon. Double dragons, two different tracks, one fire, one ice.

I love dragons. I love elemental magic, okay? So I'm like, this is mine. we got up there. I couldn't do it. I was too scared. I was eight. She was six. She was like, get the fuck out of the way. I'm going on the ride. And I did not go on the ride and watched Ruby just careen through the air on a dragon. Anyways, I have no recollection of that. And that is hilarious. All right. So, um, cabin challenge starts with a little round table. And once again, we have a little shield or no shield debate. Everyone says they're not going to be taking the shields.

And then we get to the Ouija board who gives us our first clue, Louise Clark. Got a little too hasty. Candice and I believe more a run out of the log cabin without a letter. Now, the producers of these games are very tricky. I mean, the fact that there are names that are like this close that you could choose the other one if you were missing a letter. That's the challenge. Yeah. I couldn't do something like that. I could make that game up like that. If you give me a number of four number sequence, I cannot remember even two seconds later. Oh, well, it. I'm like Dory. I'm serious.

To save my mother's life, I couldn't do it. Try it, Ruby. Give me four number sequence. 1469. Now, don't tell us right away. Sit on it for a minute. Give me, we'll discuss and see if I can remember that. Kayling, can you remind us in a minute?

Make it a little bit longer. Okay. It's in my head right now. I got it. Shall we go on? Yeah, yeah, sorry. I was just trying to commit it to memory. Okay, so I love that the hand pops out of the wrong grave and Candace and more.

I still think they can go get the money. It's like, no, no, you got it wrong. That's not the right grave. So we get to a bloody woman, my family, a bloody woman just popping out of the shadows and screaming at Dorinda was incredible. It's so fun. This to me was, I was going to say. say this earlier, but I forgot. Durinda has been weirdly calm and quiet, I feel. And this woman,

to me, was what I normally think Durinda is. Right. Right. Yeah, just a chaotic tornado of blood and screaming is what Durinda is usually. And I think what happens is they've really kind of just said no to excessive drinking on this show. So that's why it might be like that. Pat, Four number sequence? I think I have it. You sure waited a little bit longer. What do you got? 146.9.

Was that it? Yes. Oh, I do not know. Okay. Oh, boy. You still got it. Now, six numbers might be a little bit. Oh, I could never do that.

It's bad podcasts to be playing this game. So we're not going to continue. Okay. But I'd like to see. Okay. So Jam Jam runs. That was cute. And he wants to take a shield

and Mara will not let him. This is like Jam Jam. You know, it's weird. I wonder if you're going to address this in the book because I think a free player is a better player. To be all jammed up concerned about what every little thing is going to cause, you just, I think you turn into like a ball of energy that's going to rub people the wrong way.

Jam Jam is a free player. He's just like, I want to get the fucking shield. And where, like, Mara is like a little like, oh, I got my eye on you. I feel like it's like, I don't know, a better way to play than getting clammed up about everything. There will be other challenges where you can have autonomy to do things like that, I believe. This is one where it's, you're stuck with someone. Right. Because she could be a kind of person like, let's fucking do it.

Oh, God. Do you guys remember the challenge last year where they just got shit dumped on them? Yes. And it broke my heart. I believe Sierra got maggots dumped on her head. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Broke my heart.

I really still took issue with that. Like, I still think that was problematic. That was a fucked up thing to do. And if somebody dumped maggots in my hair, I would leave the show. Yeah. Yeah. I understand that. We'd be calling her agent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably called my agent, Brian. Yeah. Well, he only has, uh, a quarter of an ear left. So talking to him on the phone is not really... What? It's like...

It's tough. He shouldn't go on any rides. Brian. All right. Typewriter clue. Bertie Singh. Ron is really proud of them and no one took any shields. But unlike last episode,

solidarity is not going to stop a murder. We're still going to be murdering. We'll get to that later. So poor Ron. He's just, again, defeated. He's going to go home and he's gone. But we have a knight in shining armor in Rob C. Yeah.

We get to Johnny Weir and says he gets his gang of traders together and he goes. Are we back at the house? Yeah, we're back at the house. Well, I was going to say in the vans, this is when Rob starts thinking, and I don't think I'm going to vote for Ron tonight. Yeah. I don't know if he tells them or tells us. No, he's just,

he's quietly thinking about how he can save his, his best friend in the house. But Johnny Weir says the two people with the most evidence are Ron and Colton. And again, I'm just like, what, how, how, how, how, how, how.

We haven't discussed Mark and we'll discuss him at, he turns out to be the final vote that sways that. producers, don't do that again. I'm tired of his hair and I'm tired of his leather and I'm tired of him voting for Ron. Actually, it's making me super fucking angry. Roves. I just like calling them ballast and the skaters.

Got it. That's fine. Yeah, I understand that. So the best part of tonight's episode was when Rob's feller traitors realize there's a twist, which is they were going to be, what's that word? Sympatico. Sympatico on the vote tonight,

which is it's all about Ron. And Ron basically says right in front of them, I don't know if I'm voting for him. And they're like, whoa, blah, blah, what? Yeah, Rob starts to try to sway the house away from Ron. And Candice, who has been playing a very, very good game, um, these past couple episodes, the conga line was insane.

Um, but she's like, yeah, we got problems. Um, so the, the eight way algebra is going towards Colton and I just don't have any confidence in these people. They're having this large meeting. I don't know if this is going to be in the book. Do not have large meetings. This does not. This can't happen. You got to be able to read people in a group though so that everyone sees everyone's face and the conversations are all heard as opposed to hearsay later on. Roobes. Yeah. Okay, that's a good point. I was going to say every time I walk by a door and someone's in a room talking to somebody, I would shit my pants and be scared

or think they were traitors or something or think that someone would think I was a traitor if I was in the room eating grapes with you. You know, it's a very, I would like a layout of the castle in the book, please. Yeah, if you could get us that. I'll get the scheme. Fantastic. But I still don't think that a large group meeting like this is necessary. I think it's dangerous. I think it needs to be split into at least two cells. I mean, the only way it's happening is Colton's in the bathroom taking a leak. Right, exactly. So anyways, Colton and Lisa. Oof, this was. Do you want to take this? Bananas. Go ahead. So Colton's like, hey, hey, Trader, I mean Lisa. Come on, let's go down the hallway here. He pulls her into a closet and he's

like, hey, trader. How about you protect me? You protect me. I'll protect you. What do you say? We cut a deal. And she's like, what the hell are you talking about? Not convincingly, by the way. Not by any measure. What are you talking about? You're the traitor. And then he's like, no, no, you're the traitor here. You're the traitor.

Let's protect each other. And that deal would last about as long as, well, now I was going to say something really insult. I think that would get me in trouble. So I'm not going to. I'm just going to say it wouldn't last long. Could you push the mic away and just mouth what you were going to say? No.

No, no, no. Damn, down. But it wouldn't last long as my point. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So that's how it goes. 627-519. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Now, here we go with a conundrum for Lisa Rina. If you're a trader and somebody approaches you and only you with this information, there's a pretty good opportunity here to just say, yes, you got me. because if someone knows it's really just about how much, it doesn't mean you're dead.

It just means you got to out politic them, which is completely, you totally can if you're capable of doing that. I think to accept this from Colton would be a bad move because he's just not trustworthy enough and he's too loud a player. But Rina clearly was just doing the calculation like he's just trying to get dirt on me. He's just trying to fish something out. This proposal

is not meaningful. It's a trap. But I do think it was meaningful. I think he actually intended to do this. I'm curious. Is that my making sense there? Did that make sense? I had not even thought about that, but it's a great point. I do agree with you. I think you're right, though, that Colton is too and trustworthy, what I think could have also been nuts is if Lisa would have in that moment just looked at him and been like, okay, sounds good. Right. And he would have been like, oh, my God, I pooped my pants. And then you can do whatever the fuck you want with him.

And then if he says, you know, I brought this to her and she said this, you just say, no, I didn't. You fucking liar. Yeah. Right. You fucking liar. You are really. You know what?

Michael Rappaport was right about you. And then you'd be eliminated again. So I think the answer to your question, though, Dylan, is the one that took place at the round table, which is both want that conversation to be erased from existence. Neither used it. Right. But that goes more to, that's further evidence to show that he really did mean like, I want to do this because you don't just do that if you don't want to do that.

It can be too easily weaponized against you. If she had said yes. and he had actually kept his word because he would have had to keep his word for at least one round table. Otherwise, why the fuck would you bring it up? She goes right up to that turret and she says, bye-bye, Colton, slit your throat.

Exactly. Then the next day, you go, somebody's trying to frame me. All right. You just pull the somebody's trying to frame me, car. There has to be a word for this and I'm going to work on it.

Okay. A bold move. This is bold. It has to be at this point in the game where there's only, I don't know how many players left, maybe 12. Go up to people, two people, you're a faithful, obviously, and you want to convince two people that you're definitely a faithful.

Go to two people that you are pretty sure they're faithfuls and say, hey, I think you guys are traitors. Don't say anything. I'm a faithful, obviously. I think you guys are traitors. And if you are, carry me to the end as a faithful, and I'll protect you. So the two faithfuls now think, all right, well, he has to be a faithful. right, because he thinks we're traders. So you're naturally kind of buying their trust.

Right. They may say that to other people. Like Pat just came to us as a faithful, thinks we're traders. And he thinks he can get carried. So we can't trust him. But at least we think he's a faithful. I don't know if it would buy you trust. I want to see Patrick on the traders kind of more than anyone in the world

because that is such a needless, chaotic move. I can't think of anything more chaos. than doing that. If Colton stays here, he is pretty much doing everything in the bad playbook that I would at least like to see tried. He is doing everything. He really is.

He really is. All right. So we get to the round table. And the vote here is going to be a really fucking sticky 50-50 situation. And that's always really interesting to see. It's that moment. you can kind of like, I don't know if there's like a more anxiety-inducing moment in the traders

when you just think about being in the chair and not knowing what to write. Like having a minute to write something and having so much shit ride on it must be fucking just heart-pounding. Anyways, this is the best show. It's the best show. Ron is going to get eliminated for Porsche and it makes no sense. And he once again presents just a really, really composed calm funches.

I love how he's asked to explain himself for the fourth fucking time that he's not a traitor. Yeah. That's hilarious. Well, he says what we've been saying, which is Colton did it too. And eventually people start catching on to like, oh yeah, Colton did it yesterday. But he goes,

Colton's done it twice, and he did it to Michael Rappaport, and I did it to Portia. We liked Portia, and we didn't like Michael Rappaport. So we're remembering one and not the other. And yeah, I don't know,

Rubs, how did you think he did? I, first of all, bitch. Okay. I thought tip to tail, Ron did a great job.

First, when there was just silence. And Ron just goes, anybody? got anything you I mean we have to use the time yeah I loved it he he very

eloquently and very calmly laid out you guys have just decided that you fucking hate me and everybody else does the exact same things I do but because we don't like these people me and Michael Rappaport you you are blind to seeing all these things it's like Rob

being hot you're blind to a lot of things when people are hot so I don't know why it didn't work and that makes me sad. Big time. But the ultimate move, I think it was part move, part earnest, when he goes around that fucking table and start saying goodbye to everybody.

It's an all-time trader's moment. It's so sweet that it has this domino effect. Almost every person, like he starts saying goodbye. by two. They're like, wait, hang on a second. What? No, we're not, we can't do this. He swung two votes that way. Instantaneously. Instantaneously. Two votes. So he also opened the door. Like I don't think if he had done that, that we would have had as much of an open dialogue remotely as we did before ice skater Tara was like, all right, it's not wrong. And then I think it was Eric was like, we have to think

of something constructive to do then. What are we going to do? Right. Exactly. And yeah, Natalie's like, we have to stop this. It's not Ron. Tara's like that. Colton steps up and saves Ron too. But Colton. Colton started like, Ron, we need to get rid of you tonight just for clarity. And then swings Lisa, it's you actually. Colton is ultimately Ron's savior at the end of the day because he's the one that starts out of nowhere whipping for Rina. And it somehow works. the only way that, I don't know, I guess it would have been 50-50, Colton Ron, but Colton throws this Lisa thing in the mix and we've got a 33, 33, 33 kind of situation. So we go around the, the, another thing I learned from the table, Derinda can fuck off. Okay, Derinda's animosity towards Ron. I guess I get it because Ron's kind of abrasive towards her, but I didn't want Ron to go home. So anyways, we have four for Lisa and Colton, five for Ron.

and it gets to Rob C, the snake man. Okay. Can I do something? This is, again, way out of the box. If I'm Rob, because he tells everybody he's struggling who to vote for, I would have said, and again, this is a little on the nose. I don't think any of these three people are a traitor, and I'm stumped.

So I'm going to burn a vote here, and I'm just going to write my own name down. I thought about burning a vote. and just go write your own name down it's way on the nose which i love a traitor to put his own name fucking baller yeah and he's kind of beloved because it's like you know what he didn't go after anybody he didn't sting anybody and uh again the audience is like wow calling himself out but what is that that is different you don't want to be different as a traitor you want to go i think personally I thought about just while I was watching it I was like dude just burn it just fucking burn it

voting for Lisa was the was the only and that was the correct move ribs yep 100% he did the right thing he also not only he did the right thing and kept her around which is great for his game I think that this is like Alex when she that we had that one move from her where she I don't maybe she voted for Nigel or something we were all like okay little girl you are here to play. And now I believe so is the snake charmer. Yeah, the Rob has a similar game to Alex. They, they remind me a lot of their, their gameplay is, it's so flawless, dude. It's so flawless. We shall see. I think Candice might be spiteful. Lisa, I think could probably be fooled into or convinced that this move was actually a good move for them. But Candice, I think she will, she'll find a way to,

to get her revenge on this. If I was, if I was Rob, I would have that conga line in my back fucking pocket. I think he does. Another thing that I, on a personal level, am looking forward to, not having to see Ron learn that Rob was a traitor and was being lied to. That would have been really sad if he had stuck around, you know, so thank you for saving us that heartbreak. Insert, other flip the coin.

Colton thinking that you've been allied this whole time. I hope it's a sweet goodbye. Right. Such a good point. Yeah. Those two revelations would be joyful and heartbreaking. I'm sorry. I kind of miss out.

Are you pointing out that basically the four people that stuck up for him in the last episode were the four that just stuck a knife in his back this episode. No. All right. So the four people that protected him against Michael Rapaport were Natalie. Protected who? Colton. Oh, Colton. Sorry, Colton.

Sorry. When Michael Rappaport was sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I checked out for a second. So when Michael Rappaport and the six numbers are, no clue. I couldn't even name the first one. I don't know. Not even one. Hey, me, neither. You could have said six. I would have said, yeah, that's correct. All right. So the most, the most. Oh, did you really? Yeah. What were they? It's six to seven, five, one. Oh, wow. No way. The biggest defenders of Colton the night before were Tara Lipinski. Hey, Kalyn.

That's great producing. Sorry. Great producing. Okay, go ahead. Natalie. Johnny. And there was one more. Oh, but anyway.

Oh, and I think Kirsten. Oh, no. Sex robot. Moro. All four stuck the knife in Colton. Yeah. As far as votes. Tonight.

Tonight, yes. Yeah. No, what Ruby was saying was there, there would be a yin and yang to Ron finding out that Rob was a traitor and Colton finding out that Rob was a traitor. But anyways, Rob or the final vote comes down to Mark in the leather with the weird hair and he votes for Ron. Just a soul crushing, you know, I mean, it's like giving the ball to Rudy. It's like, I don't. want the ball going to Rudy. I want it in fucking Tom Brady's hands, actually.

Again, I lament what could have been. And if this is why it was a perfect vote from Rob, very risky. But if Rina had been selected by Mark, I think we would have tied or she would have gone. I'm not sure. But if Rina does go up there and she's voted a traitor, he, Rob is some, is, I mean, that bought him six episodes. At least a few. I mean, my God, that would have been unbelievable. Here's the other thing, Mark and with Johnny, he was Johnny's biggest ally in trying

to get rid of Colton. So that, that vote was so stupid. I don't like Mark now. I don't like him on there. I don't look him on there. Ballas is is kind of, he's being misled by the skaters, I think, but as is everyone. But I think the other interesting thing, Lisa might see her, she might be voted out soon. I think that Candace is going to be, she's going to struggle to not go immediately for Rob's throat in the way that we know she can.

Rob, I don't think even is capable of rising to that level. So it'll be like a very calm measured guy with Candace fucking screaming and losing her mind. that I'm excited to see if they vote off Rana. If Candace tries to go for Rob too early, and I don't think she's going, she seems pretty like she's, she's chill about this and she's kind of responding the way a good trader would.

She's not going to light the fire. She's going to wait for him to trip up and then she'll pour the kerosene. Yeah, I think so too. But anyways, we've got Colton versus Lisa. My God. Ron Funches gives an unbelievable speech. and we say goodbye to our dear Ron Funches.

This is, he says, Rob says this is about to be bad for Robbie Bobby. He can't even look at her right now. And that's when Lisa and Colton have the interaction wherein she says, I've been Lisa fucking rented the entire time. Is this at the bar? Yeah. Okay, this is hilarious.

This is another one of the, Colton holding a grenade with a bunch of people at a party. And he goes, hey, He dares everyone in the room to kill him. The problem is, is there's like eight people in the room? Like, I mean, when the eight people are in there, Colton, like any one of them can kill you. This is the problem with Colton's gameplay. It's fun, but it's not, it's definitely not blemish-free.

He's in a similar position to like a Boston Rob where he's playing really aggressively. A lot of fun to watch, but there's only so far you can go with this because what Colton's going to run into is the same thing Rappaport ran into, which is just like, I don't know really, I think you're faithful, but at this point, I just don't care. Like you're too, you don't work well with us. It's, it's antagonistic. So you got to go regardless of what you are. I think is ultimately what's going to end up happening to him. But he just says, kind of back to your chaotic curveball that you would throw at the two people that you knew were traders or faithful. He just says, I'm going to go after every fucking shield. so good luck eliminating me.

That's the most catty, faithful thing you could ever say. It's like, this guy's a faithful. Okay, so anyways, am I talking way too much and getting way too into this? No, I think we should probably wrap it up. We should. Okay. So we're in the turret and Alan comes in and says, you're going to murder at the purple wedding in plain sight.

You're going to murder at the purple wedding, and you have to, you're going to be dawning this amulet. And whoever touches it first is going to be the person that goes. home um when they're in the turd i'm thinking uh elephant in the room can we talk about how he fucking voted for the round table but we get to them talking in the manner about it um also at the round table johnny is like i'm going to break out into hives nobody touch anything in there could play later we don't know gosh i don't know how they're going to pull it off anyways rob explains himself to Candace and Rina, who are a little freaked out right now. And we'll see how the

traders react to one another in the future. This was a great one to end with on bad TV. If you want to hear the rest of the season, go to patreon.com slash another podcast network. This is what this show can be. I'd be just rocket fuel. We love this show. We love you guys for listening. I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Pat say goodbye. Later, guys. Kalyn. Yeah. Ruby. Bye, bye.