Another Below Deck Podcast - Sea Rat Interview - Chef Tzarina Mace-Ralph

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

Dylan and Pat are back to break down what a day in the life of a yacht chef actually looks like, Culver constantly hovering around for food, Joao and how chivalry might be dead, dealing with a disease while filming a reality show and the worst things seen on the high seas with Chef Tsarina Mace-Ralph.Ad Free and Uncensored at Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetworkYoutube at https://www.youtube.com/@anotherbelowdeckpodcast_Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/Facebook Group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/anotherbachelorpodcast/This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5727246/advertisement

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to go straight into crew dinner, then gas dinner. So I'm normally trying to do desserts at the time of breakfast, in like for the evening having them set. You sound traumatized. It's... Hi hello, I'm Dillon, hello that's Pat. Permission to come aboard. She showed up everybody,. It is a marvel. There is a sea rat in studio. It is none other than chef Serena. Hello.

I'm with the pot rats. Yeah, you know, we'll we'll take it. I like that. I like that. Get on the microphone. Serena just so we can get close. This is the first time doing this. I have to. You're doing great. All right. So we can do that? I think life is the best time doing this. I have to think. You're doing great. All right, so with, I think interior, I think we're three for three. With chefs, I think we're two for one. I think the chefs are a little bit more,

you can count on them, show them. Oh, oh, you're saying coming into the actual studio. Yes. And also showing up for interviews that were scheduled for one. What is that? I thought you were talking about their success on the show. Well, I tried. And I thought you were saying that Serena did into a good job

because she made that go up. Absolutely. That was coming out of the pumpkin head that one time. Oh, okay. Well, we'll get into that. Why are you being rude? No, no. So we have a lot of things to get into.

We're very, very grateful that you've joined us this evening as we talked about. It's tough to get you guys in here. Can you yank down on that? So there we go. That's a minute. That's a minute. Hi.

Hi. How'd you get on the show? How did I get on it? Yeah, we asked every guest that. That's the first question we asked every guest. How did you get on the show? How did I get on it? Yeah, we asked every guest that. That's the first question we asked every guest. Just how did you get on the show? Oh, I think they wanted me for like other ones and I kept saying no.

And I actually had, I was thinking about doing it and down under and they contacted me again. But then I landed like my perfect dream job. What's that? And it was just like, on a yacht, but you get paid all year round, but you only work five months of the year, then they encourage you to do ski season stuff at pay you full price, because they want you to stay like 10 years. So it's like, as long as you go back.

Is it like one benefactor or is it like a company? No, no, it's just the owner of the boat, that's what he wants. And he wants his crew to have a life and stuff. And my friends worked on this boat. And I got the head chef role. And then I put up my apartment to be rented. And I sorted everything outside the contract, really, really excited.

And I was at my friend's birthday. It was like 10 o'clock at night. And I get a phone call. It's the captain saying, Zari, you know, I'm so sorry. But the owner has just been in Italy and they found his chef in a restaurant and offered him your job. Oh, what a piece of shit.

And I was just like, I've rented out my apartment. Like, I can't tell these new tenants and I went crazy, I went back into the bar, took some shots, really see-ratted it. Sure. And then I get a phone call, it's from America, and it's one of the people who hire us, and they're like, hey, John, come do down under,

and I'm like, fuck yeah! Yeah, see you in a week. So, okay. So that question is a tepid and boring one, but it usually gets us into things that are a little juicier, but I gotta say, that's probably the most curious and fascinating tale we've ever heard. I mean, that was actually a really good story.

How about kind of how the universe just works for you sometimes? Because also the first day of filming was my 30th birthday. Yeah. And I always said on my 30th, I'm gonna do something amazing. So no aspirations to be on television. A lot of people that end up on the show,

because now there's out of Florida, there's the school for yawning or whatnot. And so we've come to learn that a lot of people perceive it as an opportunity. I'll go to the school. I'm good looking. I have an Instagram following. Naturally, the producers will reach out to me.

But you, it was a totally different story. They were pursuing you the entire time. Well, I wrote a it was a totally different story. They were pursuing you the entire time. Well, I wrote a comment on a Facebook thing. I think my friend tagged me in it, like maybe four years ago, being like, oh, you should do this sort of thing. And I wrote underneath going, those pictures aren't ready for me. And suddenly my inbox is filling up, and it's like,

it's kind of half a joke. Well, how long have you been in the industry? Um, four years as a kind of yachty. Yeah. But I mainly work in private households. And before that I was a traveling private chef that my owners would have like, you know, six to 12 to 20 houses and three yachts.

And I travel around with them. But it was really lonely. And my whole life was my boss. So I thought, well, I wanna make some friends, and so I got into yachting to basically make friends. You were like Jennifer Coolidge's assistant. Yeah. So this is interesting.

So I kinda know a little bit about this living in Los Angeles for the last 20 years So private chefs my understanding is like say your I don't know CEO of some big company Like are you paid generally like in US dollars? I've come to know that if you're a private chef It's bare minimums like $500 a day and you need to make lunch in dinner and then there is like bare minimums like $500 a day and you need to make lunch in dinner and then there is like Money's set aside. And you also the most important part is you need to turn a blind eye I mean, I wouldn't get a bed for $500. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I mean it is good once you get it and a family

That's worth working for because sometimes like a lot of the time I live in that private households and I've worked with Saudis and Russians and stuff like that and it is when I work for the Saudis I'd have to wear a headscarf and my head would always have to face the ground and if the princess walked in if I looked her in the aisle be fired. Wow. You know so it's very straight and you're in their houses as well. So it's their rules. Are there head hunters that kind of help you get these jobs? Is that a cottage industry? Yeah, there's like agencies that have high-end household clients.

Wow, that seems like a really crazy job. Hey, Luke, can you turn her up a little bit for me, babe? Sorry, I didn't wait for it to come up. She's, I think she's fader one. So, okay. All right. I'm intrigued. I'm I'm I'm in. All right.

Lot. Okay. There's so many things to get into, but I want it. Can I start off with something please do in the world of the culinary arts? Yes. Um, lemon seeds. How do you do it? Because it's probably the most common citrus in cooking, right? Do you think so? Lemon seeds. Yeah. Like the actual seeds. Yeah. What you want me to cook

of lemon seeds? No, no, I'm just I'm just wondering how you navigate lemon seeds because they are the bane of my existence when I cook. And I feel like there's always this, this calls for lemon, but people don't really tell you that there's a certain amount of like horror that goes into juicing lemons and stuff like that because the seeds, they always get and everything you know what I mean. So what I was wondering is how do you do it? How do you deal with that? So I always fake gloves because I normally have my claws on anyway. Yeah great nails. Thank you And you can see lines and all the vegetables when I chop. Yeah, but So I wear my gloves and I actually cut

Well, I always zest it first because it makes it easier to squeeze anyway. But then I cut around it so that middle bit with the seeds in is in there. Okay. And then I just bit you can easily squeeze in. Oh, okay. And then like I squeeze it like this and chuck it away. Okay. So there's not a lot of lemon seeds going into any of your vinaigrettes and whatnot. No, why does something happen? It just happens to be all the time

and I really can't stand it. You don't have to be in. I'm glad you covered this question because it's a quite over-hailing little our listener, she was gonna ask that question. I'm sure hard is broken tonight. Well, fuck you, Halle. Road.

I think this is going really well. Yeah, it is. So back to working as a private chef. Do you have any crazy stories of things that you've seen and households that you probably signed NDAs for that you can't talk about? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Wow.

I mean, I've worked for families that will always naked around me and they're very high-profile. Yeah. You know, like on the table stretching, I'm talking to you, you're like, what sort of eggs would you like? You know what's crazy about that? My wife told me, because I like to walk around the house and my box are shorts, and I'm an idiot, and I needed to be reminded of this.

She goes, we just hire a nanny. You can never leave a room with in boxes or you'll get us sued into the graph. Yeah, very exciting in America. I don't think Lupita is the litigious type. It's just about, you know, it's about being considerate, you know, because Lupita doesn't want to see the tattoo that spells out rockin above your hip when she's trying to clean your house.

That's true. So, let's talk about the season. The kitchen you were handed was almost inoperable. What was that the hardest culinary test you've ever had, working in those quarters for that amount of time? To tell the truth, the size wasn't too bad. I've actually been a smaller. The problem was, is that nothing worked.

So there were two ovens. One of them definitely didn't work. The other one was like temperamental. Like how are you going to be today? The hops, some of them would work, some of them wouldn't. And then my biggest challenge was that when you took something out of the oven, there was nowhere to put it. So I was just constantly walking around with trays and in the end, just shoving them in the sink. Right.

Also, I didn't have a dishwasher. Everything's handwashed. Everything's handwashed. Yeah, which I hate because I'm really kosher when I see my shoes. Now, when people are paying $60,000 a day, and I've heard people are certain captains, like Captain Sandy, saying food is basically most of the experience of being on a yacht.

You'd think that they'd make sure both ovens work, but yeah. Yeah. You would think it was actually the lining of it, so we would turn on on but then the whole Gatty would heat up to an Austrian sauna and fortunately I couldn't strip off because the cameras are around me Right, right, right When you say one of them just didn't work it just didn't work or was it like it worked but the seal

Yeah, the seal was was not. It was just pump out hotter. Right, right. And then my air conditioning unit, if I turned it on, would blow everything off that countertop. So I would always have to have the air conditioning off and basically be sweating it out. Sure. And then at certain times, I would be able to turn it on.

But otherwise, if I turned it on, everything would blow off. So it was like a three-stooge is routine every single day. It was frustrating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually, something that I really grateful for with Blow Deck is the fact that I cried about five times a day in that galley. Yeah. You know, I'd open a cupboard, I'll just come off

in my hand and I'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I ask some questions about the life of a chef on Blow Deck or the yachts? So you wake up at 630 because you got to start prepping breakfast. Oh, good day, yeah. All right, can you run me through what the day kind of works?

Like, when do you have breaks in between breakfast and lunch? Like, how does the day work out? Well, in between breakfast and lunch, you're doing crew food. Yeah. Because the crew have to eat. Oh, kind of.

So they do. But kind of. Yeah, I mean, normally on a charter, I'm up around five baking bread and pastries and getting ready. And then I go, well, I'm doing a breakfast service because they might say eight o'clock for breakfast or seven o'clock, but that could go on till 12 o'clock.

So you still have to have all the breakfast stuff out in an area that you can start prepping crew lunch, then guest lunch, and then when that's done, you have to go straight into crew dinner, then guest dinner. So I'm normally trying to do desserts at the time of breakfast in, like, for the evening having those set. You sound traumatized. It's. It's good.

It's good. It's just so much. And it's something that I'm still in shock about the only thing that's been that I've been doing for the hours. Yeah, it feels like you are a prisoner of war that just got negotiated out of that country. I feel like I'm having a PTSD flashback.

Yeah, I hear the grenades, but I'm 100%. 100%. Okay, well, we have so many listener questions, but I do want to ask you about Habachi Night, because you, I mean, you just, you weren't having a serena kind of day. That day. That's not a bad day. That's a bad day. That's where, this was the meal where you basically told Captain Jason to go fuck off

because it was too much. Yeah, do you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. That was Sunday, it would have been fired. Yeah, that was the night where you had to live grill meats in front of Awkward, I think marijuana professionals yes from like Carl's bad or something like that. Maybe they shared then I wouldn't be in safe panic Yeah, so what? Why were you so

Not looking forward to that was it that you just didn't want to have to interact with them the entire time you were cooking? Yeah, what was your mindset? Because that was the first time that you pushed back. That was the first time you really blew a fuse. Yes, so where there are more things going on there. Obviously, there was the Jowl drama will get into that. Like, give us your hands.

And hey, everybody, we'll get to Juao. Okay. Yes. To that face, we call him. We'll get to Tortface. So there's a few things with that evening and my mother is going to kill me for this. Yeah. Before I went on the show, my mother and my and her two sisters came over and I think I made like a comment or a joke about something and they all kicked off at me being like, oh, you're so racist and you're kind of embarrassed and all of this. And I remember just crying my eyes out that night going,

oh my God, because my jokes are really inappropriate. I have the chef banter, you know, and I've really rethought my life. And then- Oh wow, must've been a bad one, huh? Yeah, family. Oh, child of trauma, I'm gonna love it. Yeah.

Yeah. So when that came up and it was one of the, like, prepitioned sheets meetings that were actually really last minute, and I did kind of know about it a little bit before, but I didn't know what it was. And then when I was Googling it to figure out how to do it, it was like, you know, these masters trained for this amount of things you have to be Asian to do it. Well, to be fair, you didn't have to throw a shrimp in your head. Yeah. In Los Angeles, you can be either Hispanic or Asian, but it's usually Hispanic or Asian.

And also, there's still masters, regardless of color or creed. They are masters. You don't just fucking throw somebody to the wolves, telling them to do a onion volcano in front of people for the first time. Yeah. It's just wild. But yeah, I this think, when I looked at how many years of training it was and also I get quite bad stage fright anyway. And I just thought I was set up to fail.

You know, because I'm not trained to this. I don't want to insult anyone. Caros Noah listener actually asked that question. Did you feel that might have been a production move to set you up to fail because you were having such a good season that- Careful now. I don't know because I don't know what they do. Because when you're in it, I promise you it's like working on a boat.

Like I promise you that hands down. But when I saw their reaction and how much the guests are like banging on about how much they love it and then, you know, it's obviously something that they like. I was like, ah, nah, they're just cheap and that's what they want. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. You know, oddly enough, it's actually quite pricey. I mean, when you go to, when you go to, Benny Harnes. I was expected to chuck money at me or something. I was like when you go to when you go to Benny Harnes, I was expected to chop money at me or something. I just say, where is my tip? No, no, no, no. The Hibachi shaft throws things at the the clientele you you are assaulted with

on pieces of shrimp. Yeah. Oh yeah. Shrimp. I mean, they'll throw a chicken at you. They'll fucking throw rice at you. I mean, I don't understand. I just didn't know about that to do them. And I'm also thinking about the teak, like the decking for everyone else. Right, right. But I just, yeah, I mean, like you said, you had to be like Asian or Hispanic and this white little Russian Jew

isn't quite kind of a cut. Right, right, right. Exactly. All right, well, we got to get to some list of questions. So let's request some questions. And we should probably get to some list of questions. Civilist questions, okay. And we should probably get to a toot face now. What's that? Oh, a toot face.

Oh, should we ask question of toot face? Yeah, because I'm sure people are, people are probably still pissed off about the lemon seed question. Oh, okay. They really have to get to the, the joow stuff. Okay. I'm trying to find a specific question about that. I know that's in here. I mean, I know some people wanted some updates on where certain relationships were. All right,

let's do a little softball to start. Okay, softball to Jeff. Sheep stew our admin. He asks, what is your current relationship with some of your cast members? Margot, Kermit, slash Aisha, and Culver. Do you talk to them currently? Yeah, all the time. I spoke to Margot and Aisha on the phone yesterday. We keep each other updated with everything. Anything that we see, we're like, look at that dumb bitch.

And then Culver and I, yeah, we're good. He's actually in West Palm Beach, which is like 40 minutes away from me. I tried to do a good thing with him that it just turned out he watched me cook and eat it. Now, I find him very annoying. Yeah, we call him Butterball, Blockhead. Oh, let Captain Leggo have.

Yeah. Tell us some. Tell us some redeeming values about him. What did we miss when we were watching this? Because I just saw him as a very annoying person. Can you share with us why we should like him? I think that he's a sweet heart. I just think he has this innocence about him and he obviously comes from a very protected loving family and something street wise. No. But he has a really kind heart. Sure. He's just, I guess oblivious to a lot of things around him.

Yeah, yeah. I think he's lovely and I love hanging out with him. Yeah, yeah. You know? He never had done like really anything to properly upset me. He's put it from that point on. Sure, yeah.

I mean, like Lenny was sweet. Who's Lenny? Oh, the guy who, but he killed bunnies. But he didn't mean to. What? Well. So the reason why we were a little perturbed with Culver and I think that, you know, we can start here,

the whole, he's done it in seasons past where he has this, it's an interesting psychology. He puts women on a kind of back burner or a soft boil for him, almost with this kind of... Something better will come along? Not necessarily something better will come along, but maybe if I feel like it, I'll do it, but I think it's more I want a mom because I miss my mom. But regardless, I don't think it's any way to treat a young lady.

So we've seen him do that two times now, and with you, it was particularly annoying. And we'll get into Jumei Private school girl and that betrayal. But yeah, what were you, did you feel like he was just kind of keeping you, leaving you hanging? I think when you're there, like I am doing 20 hour days. And so there's little bits that we get on those nights out and stuff where like very exhausted and they were drunk as fuck, you know.

Yeah, it's like I only get little snippets of people, but he was always nice to me. Yeah. But. But do you feel like he'd led you on a little bit? I think it's, I've had this before, this is it. It's just like, I know when people first meet me, that they like, they find me interesting and quirky,

like she has a talent and all of this, and then something better always does come along. Oh wow, that's very sad. And that's a self-harm lie that we all tell ourselves, you know, but we all feel that way. And then you get married. And then that person loves you. I think you are one, um, Brunei Brown podcast away from completely shattering that thought because it's so not

true. And in terms of human merit, you versus Culver, I don't want to, we're not, we don't need to say the answer, but Culver, he's Captain Lego head. And he's just so lucky to be your boyfriend. What a jerk. Oh my God. I think he's sexually intimidated by me. He probably was. He's a dummy. I'm gonna Stand my ground on my opinion of that jerk off. You're not annoyed by him constantly buzzer

Ding around you waiting for fucking loose meat. I mean my God Well, they showed him but Jason was the worst for that. Oh, well he really? Well, Captain Jason's way harder. Yeah, that's fine. Very easy. Already I had noticed. Yeah. I mean, way harder. All right, so this is my question. And this is probably a tough question for you.

Did the friend that dated Joao, before you hooked up with him, have you spoken? Did she have a problem with you, hooking up Joao, with Joao? Yeah. I messaged her the whole time I was there. And I remember the day that I told her that we slept together. She cried down the phone to me.

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Turns out I'm a fucking idiot. Yeah. But yeah, I went back to Palmer with show-el. Um. Oh, all right, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. It's already interrupt. Okay, so we're done filming. It looks like you guys are going to, you were fighting a little bit, but he's still a good

guy. So what happens immediately after filming? What happens with both of you? Can you talk about that? Yeah, I don't want to start a war with him. Yeah, he doesn't listen to the show. Also, I don't want the public to be like, that's when you shouldn't left him.

That's when you shouldn't left him. That's when you shouldn't. Yeah, if anybody does that, we've all been there. And let me tell you something, public. You, we've all been there. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think so. The first thing that happened is when we stopped filming and we went to a hotel together, I stayed in that night because I was actually quite sick because I actually have a disease and it was

playing up by the end of the season and so I couldn't move around a lot. And so I was sleeping in bed and he went out and then at four o'clock in the morning, burst through the door with about 16 people with booze in their hands and they all came to the hotel room and I was naked in bed and I was wrapping myself up being like, please get out my room, like get out and show out with there, like, I told them you were cool,

you're embarrassing me in front of my friends. I'm like, you just picked up some fucking sterile creatures from the streets. These aren't your friends. And then it got into quite a heated fight. And then the next day I left the hotel room early and he was just like, you embarrassed me or disgusting and all this shit.

And then I went to see my grandmother in Melbourne. And then that's why it all really got quite bad. Yeah. Um, I think it we'd be to be fair to him. I mean, those were his friends. I know. Sometimes I go into dumpsters and trash and I pull out records. Well, you dated you while. And I went exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think we'd be remiss. So you weren't feeling that well that night. And you mentioned that you were having an illness towards the end of the season.

Are you comfortable with sharing that? Yeah, no, I mean, I've had ENJOY meet Jesus since I was nine. Not talked about enough. So not talked about enough. And Jimmie Chiosis since I was nine. Not talked about enough. So yeah, and actually the whole time filming, I didn't realize, but I collapsed afterwards then I realized. But I had a tune with the size of a rock on my cervix and I had 32 cysts, the size of

golf balls from all over my ovaries up to my gut. Yeah. And so I went in the surgery a few months after filming. And everything removed. So it's quite funny fans keep saying like, oh, you've lost so much weight. It's like, well, I had 12 kilos taken out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

So he had a, it's a great way to lose weight. I apologize for asking that, but I think our audience would, and thank you for being so gracious. Yeah, thank you for being candid. And it's a thing that, you know, a lot of people have it. I mean, that sounds really, really traumatizing, but. So that was showing you, probably the, at least as we've seen on the show a couple times,

an example of him not being caring or thoughtful and brutish. Well, I will say that as soon as the cameras went off, the real him came out and I really tried to hold on to the person that wasn't bored because I will honestly say like hand to heart. I would not be able to do that season without him. When Luconara got fired and he came on that I felt like that's when the season began and he got me through every day.

He checked with me every hour. I think you're okay. Can I send you a boy to help wash up? Can I take your trash out? Like everything, he's like, you're doing so well and pumping me up and he put me on this high pedestal and I kept thinking, I can do this, I can do this. This is great, this is amazing.

And then it's just that kind of love bombing of a narcissist. And then when it was time to drop me, he just dropped me so hard. All right, so lots to break down here. So one thing we've noticed on below deck is that it does nurture boasins that are sex addicts. I think a lot of people in the yachting industry are sex addicts because we do go to see for so long, like the longest I've, so I did six months on a boat where I

didn't go outside because there's no space on it. It's during COVID. So we went out to step on land. There's no space for the crew like outside the boat and it was actually galley cabin, galley cabin for six months and you do go crazy. But a lot of the sea rats yachting industry like we get forced to go into a boat with people that we probably wouldn't say hello to in a bar. It's like, you have to be friends. Like you might be in on-distance relationships,

but it's just that humans have cravings. Of course. And this is why like, there's a lot of people who come into the show have just come from their boats as well. So no wonder they're hooking up. Because everyone on bloody below deck are part-time models. You know, the cast are gorgeous.

By the way, so that brings me to this question. Is there a Logan's run type of thing where once you aren't good looking, you can't work on those boats anymore? Like, is that where they kill you and they put you in a meat grinder and then we feed the rest of the crews of your body? Like, because, by the way, does below deck represent generally how a crew looks?

Absolutely. It does. Oh my god. So there is nobody allowed over 40 to work in the exterior or the interior. My best friends, they're in their 40s and they've recently got into yachting and they're a married couple and they're smashing it and I'm really proud of them. Well they must be very attractive. But of course they're gorgeous.

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It's, they've had to fight for it, you know, and the crew are getting younger, and that's experienced, and cheaper. And studying the seven star service is getting to, well, she has an ODE fan, so we're gonna hire her. Yeah, yeah. Now, that's exactly how it is, and it's horrifying to think of paying for a vacation, and getting that kind of service, but it's also quite

helpful for people who are drawn to the sea. I mean, I went on a boat. This is so embarrassing. So the chef failed their drug tests and they had to get a chef in really quickly. Sounds about right. And so I flew literally within like six hours from the interview, I was on a flight, I was going and it turned out that the boss of the boat only wanted blonde models. Yeah.

So then I came on board with like 15 crew and I was like, this tiny, an all a Jewish girl. I looked like that. We had cousin and mum made them hang out with you like, take her out. Right. Go get some black. It's awesome fun. And it was the most awkward setting for me ever

because I was just surrounded by these gorgeous men with six packs, these women who are ex-affleets and models. And I'm there like, hey, hello. What do you want to be? Did they ask you to bleach your hair? No. It's really kind of that. I was not to Nagani, but my sous chef

was this gorgeous blonde woman as well. I was like, do you know how to cook? And she was like, yeah, I know the stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right. All right, so where's the relationship? By the way, it's so interesting to hear you speak

of Joao in positive terms now, given that he basically was kind of a dickhead after filming. I've always said, like, I, and this is the thing that I keep going back with with my therapist as well, which I tried to get out of my head is that I can't hold on to the person that he was on board because he was acting. Yeah. Yeah. And I do, I keep thinking like, well, maybe if I saw him and, you know, it's like, no, sorry, in a night, I know what he did to me for those five months after filming. And it lasted that long after.

I think it was, so he lived with me for around a month. He lived with you. Yeah, so he moved into my place and that's when it, I think we had a really good week. We had a really, really amazing week. Yeah. And then that's when he started dating the woman that he's with now behind my back. But we're in always in like this open free relationship.

The difference was, is that I was so... You crazy kids, what's with these open relationships? It's yachting. It's for me, it's protecting myself because otherwise I get cheated on. Oh wow. As long as it's it's it's not nice. Yeah. Now I don't date your teeth. I can hear the public. I have a ban. Please. No more yachties. So if there's any single man out there. Oh I'm sure you I'm sure your DMs have done fine. They have not. They haven't.

Hey everybody, will you fucking pick the phones up first? My God. Get to work. I think people just think I'm like this huge feminist, like fighting against Luke and like Margot's my queen, which is true so that like, oh God, I can't send her a dick pic. She might report it.

I'm like, send them over. Yeah. All right, no dick pics. Just tell Serena if you find her work cool and just cool. Dogs send any dick pics. All right, so let's get to some list of questions. A horrifying thing.

If it's not like agreed upon, you know, like I would like a dick pic. To just fucking kick things off with a picture of your fucking penis. I mean, it's just so horrific. You know, you can go to court for it now. Yeah. You should be able to go to court. And also, okay. So many things, because you're such a lovely, beautiful human being.

And I just want you to extend the grace that you extend, monstrous people like culver. The, I want you to extend it to yourself, pointed in word, but also worrying about what the public thinks. If anyone has an issue with you, I don't know, rallying against the actions of Luke. I don't care what they really think that, yeah, we should be too close. rallying against the actions of Luke. I don't... We don't care what they think. We don't care what they think that, yeah, we should be too concerned with that.

Because that's fairly black and white. Well, which brings us to our second listener question. Adi Grillas, have you heard from Luke or Laura? So Laura and I were talking before those episodes came out and then as soon as those episodes came out, I blocked her straight away because I felt very afraid. You didn't see what she was doing with Margot. Nothing. Okay.

Remember, I'm really locked in a little hole. Yeah. You're doing the three-stugest thing, doesn't it? And I listened to a lot of what she was saying and, you know, I'm very much a sort of person when I've there's two sides of the story, a piece of it together myself. Yeah. You know, I think that's something that somebody who gets bullied, like you have to do that a lot. Sure. I know, but some people are just pathological. Well, look, she comes from a country where they were only output is dog bull stilling Yeah, have you ever been to Lapia?

No, you never been there. So Laura um Yeah, I guess listen, I'm not gonna ask that question. I'm not gonna ask that question Pat ask another question um Megan maker asks are the, and this is a production question you might get in trouble with this. So this season, um, Med, we see, uh, Casemar and Natalia and her douchebag boyfriend, AJ, who's also in an open relationship. Yeah. We see text, uh, blurbs. AJ, the fight is still out there for you. Okay. I will fight you to take the fight. Three rounds, one minute rounds,

I'll beat the shit out of you. You would let it just piece of shit. If it was to happen, which it's not gonna happen, and this is, we're just joking around, but also kind of not, but more joking, it's there. If you want it, okay? Okay, fuck it, fat buff monster. So do they make you sign a thing where anybody that texts you will be shown on the screen?

So if you had a guy you were dating, I mean, you've seen this as a trope on the show, right? Where the text blurbs show up. Okay. I've actually always wondered about this. And I mean, obviously I was. Of course. So when I went on in and then obviously when I was messaging my friend, he was with showel before,

I remember messaging her in the gallery and thinking, he'll be so sneaky. And then when it came out, then like showing my message on my- They did show your message. Yeah, I was just like, how the fuck did they do that? But I have like nine cameras or around me in the galley.

So obviously like one zooms in and actually sees what I'm writing. Interesting. So you don't hand your phones over. Ah, of course we do. That's really illegal. Yeah. No, no, no, but honestly, I really,

I was shot myself at like half a hour. How accurate was the description of the text. I'm in a pretty accurate. It is so nuts. I know that you don't see production and you're too busy to really think about them, but next time you're on the show, if you're on the show again, really, I don't know, maybe be mindful that there are overseers who are in the darkness. I mean, it's just the overseers.

I think the one thing that the overseers. My God. I think the one thing that below deck prides their self over, and this is something I love about it is that we are the most reality. You are. For good and bad. They let you guys get blackout drunk, which they shouldn't.

And then should, but it's a high wire act because your sea rats are gonna to see rat, you know? And I'm honored. Oh, wow. I'm honored. Wow. Thanks. You know what goes great with a glass of wine?

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Yeah, that's quite normal, actually. I mean, I've had scary moments where I actually went down to the cabin to check the passports of the escorts to make sure they were of age. Because I was like, I would be pleased to be. Because the girls that came on, I wasn't comfortable with the way how young they looked. Sure, yeah.

But you almost turned into John Wick. You could do get put into situations. I mean, prostitution and stuff is very common on boats. There's no proper laws at sea. I know they say like, you can't do this in that. But I mean, I've seen some stuff. I've seen people who don't use toilets or toilet paper in their culture, so they just do it on the shower. And these girls have to clean it up.

What do you mean they do it on the floor? They just go to the bathroom in the shower. They clean their booties in the shower. And they clean it. They clean their booties in. They're like, they. They're shit. Yeah.

Wow. And it's just like everywhere. Oh, wow, wow. Yeah, they're definitely some horror stories of yachting. But I have to say, the women's group we had on my season for me was quite... Yeah, cathartic. ...shocking for me in a way that I couldn't get my head... Right.

...but I think the whole time I just looked so confused because I kept thinking they must be paid actors, they must be paid actors. They are not. And it was because they were so overtly sexual with the boys where they just loud and hammed up the entire time. What was it? I just overall quite shocked of like how could you go back to your job and your normal life and your partner after behaving like that.

And I mean, I like to partay. I do. Partay. Yeah. And I love a beach club and I'll get up on that table and I'll have a good time. I've never been rude to anyone of notches, put them down, I'll never shout. But just the other whole thing, I don't know if it's shout out, but just the whole thing, I was just like,

wow. So you would say that those women and their behavior were- That's worth an underage prostitute there. No, no, no, definitely not, but they were probably worse than shitting in a shower. Oh yeah.

All right, a couple more questions. That is a condemnation. Theresa Meter asks, and I think this is a great question. Have you ever hooked up with the charter guest? Great question. I would love to. And it's on my list of dreams. And it's actually when I did the interview for Blow Deck, they said, is there anything on your wish list for this season? I was like, I want to fuck a caption. I want to fuck a charter guest. Yeah. I didn't do either Eva and I very much tried. Would they have let you do that?

Of course they were. It's happened in past below dexies. Oh, a serious family sex with a captain. Well, Malia famously hooked up with a charter guest. And then we saw Kyle hook up in his first show with Frank. A great love story. Oh, wonderful. Yeah, I never have, but also with chefs, like I promised you, we are never seen.

Yeah. Like, never. And when you do see us, like, a stink of food, I'm sweating. Sure. I probably haven't showered in two days. They are covered in grease. Yeah, it's not nice. Penny call ass is Captain Jason as hot as hot in person.

He's so beautiful. He is. Oh, in person, he says just, I don't actually know how I cooked with that man around. Have you met him? No, not yet. No, we've never met him. How tall is he? Tall enough. Yeah. And by the way, so I assume some of your attraction comes from him actually being a pretty good person as well. He's incredible. And we actually do speak quite a lot because we're both extremely spiritual. And he's been helping me on this spiritual quest I've been on recently, through Reyki and other levels of spiritual. The only bad thing I have to say, he crashes boats into dogs.

Yeah. It wasn't him. It's the end. Don't blame my Jason. Bad. Bad pod rat. No, I don't know. It wasn't him, it was the end, don't blame my Jason, bad, bad pod rat. No, what's happening right now is- Genesee, pure jealousy. No, no, no, it's not jealousy. It's that thing that you do where you a lot people

too long to leash and you've done it with a lot of people in your life. Jason crashed that yacht into- But you gotta weigh with a cutscene. Good luck. Yeah, yeah. You have to stop forgiving people the way that you do. Jason crashed that yacht into... But he got away with it because he's good-looking. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. You have to stop forgiving people the way that you do.

Okay. Okay. I'm a bit of an empath, though, and I see the good and people. Me too. Me too. I don't. Okay. Okay, round two.

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Yeah. No. I promise you, it's like very weird brother and sister. Yeah. And she's like, I'm not going to say she's, it's because I'm so bad like, gross in any way or anything like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She is more of a kiwi sort of girl that she, if the car tire was broken, she would just

get the jackout. Yeah. You know, I think that Jason, at my as people like that, but he likes to have someone where he can show I can. I have big muscles. Yeah. He does. He does. He does. I take the shits around here. I don't know. I mean, I might be that's my opinion. No, I think you're pretty, pretty dead on with that. Yeah, and we're just kidding. We know that Jason and Asha are not a couple. We know that Jason and Asha are not a couple. Captain Jason's dating Lala now.

Who? Just kidding. Cause I'm so waiting. Yeah, yeah. No, it's okay. Lala and him will flame out because Lala is, I mean, there's a lot going on there. You know.

All right, let me, this might seem like a negative question. Is there anybody in the below deck world that you can't stand? Oh, great question. Who asked that? Me. Thank you for asking. I, I haven't met all of them. Yeah. But is there anybody who can stand is there any other one name that you hate? It's probably going to be Luke.

I got it. It's just because it's my girl. It's because you try to sexually assault and rape somebody. That's just... That's an obvious answer. Is there anybody who didn't commit any crimes that you hate? Oh, okay. That's a great question.

I don't really know, I'm just trying to think back on the seasons, but because I know how it is, when you're in the moment, you never know. Yeah. It actually would be... What about you, my private school girl? I like her. We talk almost every day.

What? Okay. Am I too forgiving? I like that part of do? We talk almost every day. What? Yeah. Okay. Am I too forgiving? I like that part because I am too. Everybody lives their own life. When she betrayed you, what were the vibes like between you and her? I mean, did that, did you want to throw her overboard? Did you, how quickly was that mended?

So I get over things really quickly. I do, but I need time to process because of my ADHD and my dyslexia and everything else that's going on with me myself and I. Manuebo. I just need time to basically go through my brain about both sides, how it worked out, and figure it out, and get to this middle ground.

I work things out on my head constantly, my head's constantly going. And the bit where she came in as I was trying to process everything, also, I was really far behind on food that day. And I worked my stuff up so much about, not being good enough in my job and all of this and I already knew I was behind and she was trying to hug me. And I was just like, I already knew I was like, I will behind and everything and I was hanging out my asshole that day.

Fuck I was hungover. Oh, that's what that, I was going to ask you what that meant. I like that, hanging out my asshole. Yeah. You don't have that in America. No, because it's a very like, it's kind of a visceral, you know, expression. It kind of like conjures up imagery of a prolapseed asshole, which I think we kind of like, I don't know where...

Depends on what you are ready. Yeah, I guess so. Not me yet, but maybe you guys. No, no, mine's, mine's pretty tight. Oh, okay. Hi, tight. That's very good to know. So you were hungover, you were behind on work.

Yeah, and just, I did it out the right time. I was just processing and that just wasn't the right time. And I remember saying to her like, not now. Yeah, just not now, just give me some space and she kept trying and trying. And I know for a fact that the cameras weren't there, I would have been like, fuck off and give me three hours and I'll come and talk to you when I'm ready.

Yeah, yeah. I love the way you handled it. I remember that scene so well. I thought that was exactly how it should have been. Oh, really? Yeah, great A. Oh, the first A, I probably go, sick job. Tell my mom, put on the bridge.

We're not gonna talk about this now. And you're not gonna get in a, I'm not gonna allow an apology, like that was fucked up. No, I loved it. That's the way, yeah. Yeah, I just think, I just think it was like just a bit of a shock and then the like it just brought back a lot of memories for me of like

Concentration the pretty a girl. Why can't I be more like that? And then like the understanding when I'm not so This is how it is sometimes and That isn't the right person for you anyway if they would do that anyway Well, I disagree with that estimation. But I just have to process. I think in many ways, this is why the show is so successful. It really encapsulates like high school in a certain way, like just the hierarchy and like the jog.

I mean, she's literally called Jimmy Prime School girl. That's right. In her passport. So can we, I can start wrapping this up a little bit? Yeah, we got to wrap this up. We got to go to Pat's favorite place on planet Earth. We're going to have some drinks.

OK. I got to marry Falkkill. Oh, OK, great. What's your favorite foods and what's your favorite foods to cook? And that's the question. Oh, okay. So, something that I wasn't able to do in this show is that I actually specialize in nutrition

or middle eastern food in North African grill. So I'd like to dig out of the sand and create the fire pits and there and cook within that and I have the middle eastern flavors and spices and nutrition wise that are so good for your gut. That's what I do with my private clients and households because I'm there to help them diet, especially their celebrity or a film star trying to get into after having a baby or something and getting into a role and stuff like that. How many sides of flesh do you have to fuck up in a pit before you get good at cooking like that?

Because that's extremely difficult. I was very lucky with my upbringing that my mother was kind of like a hippie surfer chick and she was actually originally a punksinger in the other day. But we camped a lot. So from a very young age, you know, I would go out surfing, come back with, you know, with the kids and the mum would be cooking on

a campfire. And that's how it began. And I was through my incredible family, being able to travel to places like Egypt and Israel and places like that, you know, and seeing how it's done and practicing and learning, and that's how I basically learned everything that I know and I'm in sheffing. And obviously I went to culinary school, but the things that I learned the most is actually traveling to countries and sitting with the women in the streets and learning. Yeah. I mean, is there anybody healthier than the people that eat that food? Maybe the Japanese, but I can't really think of anybody as...

Japanese is very heavy on rice. I mean, India is very good as far as their spices with all that antioxidants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's... Do you like spicy? Um, I like spices. Yeah. I don't like something that overpowers.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bit of sugar as a spice. Oh, okay. Interesting. You know who doesn't like spicy? Well, I don't but his Tommy. I mean you should see with this I can only turkey sandwiches What is really calling Lee eats turkey sandwich? That's all I mean Culinary background. I don't think we got any of that like what's your training?

So I trained at a place called Bordeaux Kim in Bristol where I grew up Which is actually an organic cookery school where you learn high-end, like, culinary arts, but farm to table. So I was at school and there I learned about biodynamic gardening and how you do seasonal foods and then the basics of it and how you get into high-end. No glyphosate. No, so I'm a very natural chef. I think this is a big reason why I struggled so much on below deck is because yes, I have worked in missions, our restaurants for you have to. It's how you get up in your career, but it's something that I'm not entirely passionate about, but nutrition and cooking food that actually heals people is my true passion. So then going on to a show like, hello, deck, where everything needs to be blown up.

Sorry. Everything needs to be blown up. Which I love doing is I watch a lot of Russians. I've had jobs where my sous chef had to in the morning, dunk frozen grapes in gold flake, you know, because that's what they wanted. When we talk about Russian food and in, uh, careful, no. Um, I'm, I I'm also Ashkenazi Jewish and I I think that Jewish food I okay Russian food cannot be in this conversation, but maybe you'll illuminate this for us

more most underrated out of these, Jewish food, British food, Russian food. Underrated. Oh, Jewish food is the most underrated. So underrated. It's the most incredible food in the world, personning to me. Yeah. But I think you have to go to Tenevi even, all these places and go to the markets and experience that street food and experience it properly.

But then one of the most inspirational chefs to me is Yotam Waterlenghi, and he is incredible. And he actually tried to, years ago, three-food bring Israel and Palestine together, three food. He failed. He failed. Yeah. How did he? So he's incredible. The another thing I love about him is that he is a gay man and he's Jewish. Yeah, and I'm like Bring on the game. Yeah, yeah, me too. Me too. I'm sure. Can I and Russian food is fucking disgusting. Some of this brush. You know, it's nice. Some of this nice. I like Russian. I'm gonna make the list fucking really jealous. I can potato. The four of of us, producer Lewis, Dylan, myself, and Zarina,

we're going out to a bar. We're going to have a couple cocktails on the, the network's going to pay for it. Thank you. Couple last stupid questions. Oh, we'll go quick fire. All right. Christina, Kamarina.

She's been a fan for such a long time and it's just crazy that you can't say that name. I'm an idiot Mary fuck kill call for Harry Adam. Oh Shit, I don't like to kill anyone kill someone. Oh, I don't know if I could because I feel like And this is gonna sound terrible because I don't like to use people But I really like culpers lifestyle and family And I want to get in on that wheel. You're going to marry that fucker. I would marry him.

Yeah. How are you going to have sex with him? Where on that captain leg go ahead? He has marital sex. I thought that goes out the window. And you get married. No, it's still kind of there. Well, you said I'm so enthusiastic.

No, it's there. So I'm going to stick with my decision after that answer. Yeah, OK. And then I don't know if I can anyone anyone but why not just all of the rail me Okay, that is a fun cop out but a cop out nonetheless, okay, you would marry Culver you would Fuck you've got a fuck you have to fuck Adam, right? Was Luca in there Me too.

Yeah. Short-king, yeah, Mike. Short-dog to fly. He can't reach it. Yeah, yeah. Him and Harry Styles are the only two people who can pull that off. I love Harry Styles.

Me too. Who doesn't love Harry Styles? Okay, Meredith Smith, what's the key to a chakootary? Because you are, she claims that you are. God, you're the best in the universe. You're the best in the universe. At a chakutari? Because you are, she claims that you are a workplace where so you're the best in the universe. At a chakutari. I am so happy that she asked that question. I am so, I'm sad that I didn't bring it up.

Your chakutari plates are second and none. Well, I actually had a Shakyutri business in Palmer, and I did it in boxes to deliver to yachts, like day modes. But I love doing it because I find it creative and I am so worried that if, let's bless God, if it happens, if I do get another season or whatever franchise, I'm worried that if I continue with Shakuta-D's, will people think that I'm a one-trick wonder? No. I have to come up with something else.

We can always reinvent yourself. Five people. All right, so final question. Jane Kosoutik asks, season three, is it happening? I don't know. What do you mean, you don't know? Well, the one or the, she can't. What we said about Revicon.

She can't answer that question that question me or in general we know season three is happening are you going to be on that book we'll find out next season everybody jump in the comments let us know what you thought of the interview five stars kind words follow serena on Instagram

at chef serena and don't send say hi first and then you can see if she's interested in the day. Okay, just say hi. All right, Serena, thank you so much for coming. Thank you. We have such a good time watching you all season. I like that she calls us pod rats. I love that. I know she's giving it right back because a lot of people say that that's insulting and I I don't see it but anyways. We loved you on the show. We hope to see you again on the show and thank you for being so candid and open with us today. Yeah. Really fun time. I too. I know. No, you weren't and I'm so happy that you got out from behind enemy lines

and you can breathe a little bit before you go back into a dungeonous environment. But we'll see if you go back. Season three, everybody, keep a lookout. I'm Dylan Sengibai, Pat Sengibai. Bye. Serena, say goodbye. Bye. Thank you.