Another Below Deck Podcast - Sea Rat Interview - Fraser Olender

Episode Date: September 24, 2023

Dylan and Pat sit down for an interview with Fraser about his relationship with Captain Sandy, what's different about Below Deck from professional yachting, tears, lessons, accessories, his favorite sea rats, his not so favorite sea rats and much more. Ad Free and Uncensored at Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetworkYoutube at https://www.youtube.com/@BadT.V.Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/Facebook Group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/anotherbachelorpodcast/

I learned so much last season. And I think in every experience, you do learn a lot that you do, whether you'd like to think so or not. And no one's perfect. I, I, first of all,

in the very beginning, a very good place to start. And was when Heather said that, sorry, I, what did she say? That was ridiculous. Five minute timeout.

Five minute timeout. Black guy. 100%. Oh yeah. Five minute,out. Five minute timeout. Black guy. 100%. What did she say? Oh, yeah. Five minute. I'm sorry. Ready? Hi.

Hello. And welcome to a very special episode of another Below Deck podcast. Boy, am I excited. I am too. We have in the flesh the successor of the Queen of the Sea. Although I guess that was Heather. No. Sorry.

Fraser is joining us in studio. The chief stew with the mostest. Hi, how are you? Good, how are you doing? Well, we... Have been drinking. Well, we've been drinking a little bit, but the vibes are fine. But they're a little off.

Oh. I have to say, you know, when you came in. Gorgeous. You were like, wow. Whoa. Let me just get the beef out of the way. And then I do want to talk about your accessories. And your scent is fucking unbelievable.

I know. Hug to me. It's just crazy. Beautiful. So I got a handshake. Pat got a hug. And when we shook, if I can just finish, when we shook hands,

you were like, you've said some, I've been, you said, and I quote, I've been watching and you've said some horrible things. Oh.

So that's, that's where we're at. That's where we're at. Yeah. And then you hug him. Well, I've said some nice things. Yeah.

No, no, no. No. Okay. Also, I listen more than I watch. So I don't know who's saying what, let's be things. Yeah. No, no, no. No. Okay. Also, I listen more than I watch, so I don't know fucking who's saying what,

let's be honest. Okay. This has happened a couple times where people are like, you've said some awful things about me. Maybe it's my own delusion, but I'm like, you have to be talking about him.

That could not have been. But if you remember any of them, we'll get into them. But just wanted to say thank you for joining us. We're excited to talk to you. Thank you so much for having me. So let's start talking about Below Deck. Let's do it.

You are on the show. Yep. I think a good place to start might be a TikTok that you posted today, I think. You're clued up. You follow hard. I am actually clueless, but our fans are obsessed with anything

and everything. What was that about? Was that an apology? So, yeah, the TikTok was... That's a very good question. The TikTok was Fraser jump roping to audio of him taking ownership of... Oh, no, no, yeah, it's really well thought about and like it's really deep yeah but okay so it wasn't i'll tell you um uh most of the feedback i get from

last season is my turbulence with captain sandwar. Yeah, Captain Timeshare. And I don't know how to confront it, to be very frank with you, because there's no clarity in the situation there. This far along the line, there is still... Well, she's out of your hair at this point.

I mean, will you ever have to work under her again? No but bravo Con. Which I've heard she's a nightmare. Allegedly. No listen it's all fine. It's all fine. There is no bad blood. But

there was no clarity in the season. Yeah. I was doing a job and from one second to the next i was on a beach um highly injured by the way i must stop us here i don't know if you you did watch i had injured my foot the the tiktok of you jump roping we're going back to the season real quick and then we'll get back to that yes i had really injured my foot um i got drunk as we do went down a uh what i thought was a slide but it was a cement um slope yeah yeah yeah uh on my knees and i totally tore the skin off my foot i've got the scar i can show you later anyway i got back to the bone i was like i want to see a medic because it's i can see my bone

and the guy was like, yeah, the bone, the bone is not exposed, but your foot is so infected. You cannot get sand in this. There is no way you can play on the beach today. And I was like, do you know what? I'm not too upset about that. Because the last thing after working for 19 hours a day, I want to do is go play volleyball.

Was there pus in it? Oh, pus. And I've got amazing pictures for you. Like grotesque. Like it's just so much pus for such a long time. And I've got amazing pictures for you. Like grotesque. Like it's just so much pus for such a long time. Like it was spitting upwards at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay, I'm not too upset, but it's bad.

He said, and this is where it annoys me. Okay. Madam Sandy was there. Sorry, Captain Sandy was there. And I was here and she was there looking at me. And he goes, you cannot play. I'm going to put a plaster, a bandaid on it, you cannot play. I'm going to plaster a bandaid on it. You cannot play.

Okay. You cannot. You cannot. Because it's going to get, it's really bad. Right, right, right. And I was like, oh, bummer. Fine. Right.

She was there looking, acknowledging. Next thing I know, I'm on the beach in front of my whole crew being told that I'm the biggest disappointment to everyone. You're a pariah yeah yeah and i'll take that when it's deserved but when it's not i honestly didn't understand what was going on i was very confused frazier i have to ask this i like this when we're sitting next to each other you can tap me on the knee to let me know you got something yeah that's really nice so sometimes you're doing an interview these events took place i'd say at least a year ago yeah at this point we're talking quite a while ago yeah are you still troubled by it no okay no i'm just pested by it not pested but but i'm asked

about it a lot yeah but i can't answer more than what i know from back then. Nothing has changed. Let's talk about what happened back then. So this puss thing, which... You wait. You'll love it. Why was it edited? You'll have to forgive us because we

watched so much of this shit. It just all combines into one... Sandy took great joy in embarrassing Fraser as not being basically a participant. Yes, but I recall the edit being very much just, it was kind of like your call, whether or not you wanted to do it or not. And that's why she was so upset.

So this revelation that it was categorically, no, you cannot do this, and then her calling you out seems a little more odd. And if that is the case, I think you probably do not like Captain Sandy very much because that's just an objectively awful thing to do to somebody. So how could you like her after that? a lot of our listeners wanted to know. So we saw you guys bump heads a little bit or her basically deal with you and her leadership type of Sandy style. Was there any things that we didn't see as viewers with kind of the inner turmoil between you and her?

No, everything. And that's what, that's what I love the most about the show. Because it is real. It is unedited. It is, sorry, it's edited because we film 24 hours for seven weeks. Yeah. But production's not involved.

And I wish there was something I could tell you to say, oh, no, this happened and that's why we're at where we're at. And that never happened so no so i'm at the same understanding as you guys here we go again with another one of these people coming in here and saying that production doesn't get involved i just never believe that i know people don't and people always like yeah but like don't you don't you have to say this then i'm like no yeah and you know what that's why i'm proud about my what i do and why i'm on this show yeah because um i've worked very hard to be where

i am in my profession and then i get to do that on a tv on a tv show which then brings all this other wonderful stuff too yeah but i work very hard to do what i do and i'm not just going for lunch and i'm not just having a bitch fight with someone on the street because of whatever. I'm doing a job, and I'm doing it to the best of my ability, and it might not be perfect, but that's reality. And you want to talk about reality TV?

This is reality TV. Okay, well, let's talk about how you are not perfect. Absolutely not. First of all, rude, but absolutely not. What the hell? Sorry, that was too much. I was just kidding. I was just teasing.

We were getting along. It was going to be a segue into this incredible question. Just you wait. You are so good at your job, the chief stewing, the taking care of the guests. But when you excel in any profession, be it this or finance or whatever, you're awarded with the upgraded responsibility of managing people. Yes. Which is a bizarre thing

because it's a completely different skill set. It has nothing to do with the thing you're actually good at. And you were handed quite a bit of a, let's call it a fucking nightmare. Should we remind of these? Yes, go ahead. Okay, so we had Millie Illicit. We had Alyssa. Just

at each other's fucking throats. And we had Hayley the Good Witch. So we had Camille Alyssa. Yes. And what did you call her? Millie Illicit. That's her hip-hop name. Oh, I didn't know that. I probably should listen to this a bit more. She's got bangers.

So I have a question. Was this, in fact, your first duty as a chief stew? It was framed that way in the show, because that would seem, if it wasn't, that's throwing you to the wolves. Oh, and also, second part of that question, do you think that that was your biggest like challenge or downfall in the season was dealing with the managing part was like my my question so we'll start with that one um i

left season nine and i went back i went to a boat and i did my first ever season as a chief stew yeah i had worked on that boat for two and a half years previously. I knew that boat better than I knew myself. So when I became chief stew, it was beautiful, immaculate, seamless, and divine. Can't quite say that when I can't choose my crew though, can I? So I join whatever boat that was, and I get given these stews. Sea rats, yeah. And we're going to go with stews.

Quite literally anyone, anybody do you know what anyone could have walked on and been like oh yeah we say it all the time they need to cast the show the lower ranks of the show sorry for you but they need to just go to a tgi fridays i've been in the business for a while yeah i'm a yachty i'm a se rat as you guys love to call them i'm a purebred thoroughbred sea rat i'm dark dirty dingy and disgusting sea rat yeah but i'm a sea rat yeah fuck yeah don't take some bitch from tgi friday right because she's gonna do absolutely nothing yeah there's and what have we seen with the past sorry yeah no no, no, no, no, no. I have a background question. Yeah. Typically, if we were in the real world of yachting,

would a chief stew be involved in hiring? Yeah, absolutely. OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hire my stews. And that's important, because guess who works with them? Well, it ain't Captain Sandy or other. It's me, because I know my team, and I'll get the job done,

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And consequently, I don't know what I'm getting given. Right. If I picked my crew, I wouldn't have picked these gals. Do you know what? Yeah. Alyssa. No, Camille is Millie Alyssa. Oh, for God's sake.

You're very confusing me. Why are we calling by the name? We'll call her Camille. Her name is Millie Alyssa. Why? What does that even mean? She's a great singer. I don't know what it means,

but she's got bangers. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, that's embarrassing. She was fantastic on America. She actually, she's got some pipes. She's doing really good on OnlyFans at the moment as well. Yeah.

A lot of C-Rats turn to OnlyFans. I know. My time might be near. No, I don't think so. I think what's so awesome about you and having you in here is because I do think that you are, if it's not solidified already, it's damn near close to being

you're kind of a mainstay on this show now. I think that you've comfortably gotten yourself a couple of seasons and I think one of the reasons why you're very very good television, you're very good at your job but also as bad as Millie Alyssa aka Camille aka Millie Alyssa

and Alyssa were you got given Hayley. Yes. And you and Hayley are, I mean, it's like the Fox and the Hound or like stepbrothers or like any other great duo of people who love each other. Do you know, she walked on board and I saw her down the dock and I went, fuck me. I was like, guys, honestly, it's my first season.

Give me a break. And then I see this walking wig. Yeah. She's awesome. She's actually here. I was just with her. We know. How do you think we know you're here?

Pat's been here. You should know that I'm here through my Instagram. Yeah, I know. It's a whole incestuous thing. Hayley is brilliant. She is an amazing friend. She is loyal. She brings energy. She brings excitement, enthusiasm.

Yeah. And sues don't need to be perfect, but they need to say yes and try their best. Right. Love, Hayley. The worst stewardess i've ever worked my entire life right right the worst stewardess i have to tell you this story it's an amazing story it's one of my favorites and they didn't air this and i died a thousand deaths i said hayley quick sticks mommy's gonna do a beach picnic and I forgot to get a... Can we really quickly pause?

Yes. You're speaking a language that I don't really... Right. Mummy is me. What are quick sticks? Oh, God. You really are behind. Quick sticks, like quick.

Okay. Hurry up. Can you just add another word to it? Sorry, sorry, sorry. I was like, Hayley, we've got to move quickly is that okay? yeah yeah yeah

I need I've forgotten one thing please go grab me a tablecloth for my beach picnic tables I haven't got any provision's not giving me any tablecloth please

just grab me because we didn't have any I said just grab me a bed sheet from the guests just grab a flat sheet and I do a flat sheet no i said a flat sheet to go on top i don't care i haven't got time so i go do my bits i come back and i can i'm confronted with hayley holding in her two hands a duvet in a duvet cover.

I looked at her and I said, really? Yeah. And that's why she's so brilliant. Yeah. She has no clue. But she said yes.

She fucking did it. She ran down there and she came to me with a smile. And that's all that matters. A positive attitude will get you pretty far in this world. I mean, totally. Right. But you don't get that from people.

I don't care how good they are. As long as they have an attitude that they want to try, and they're there to work, then I'm happy. And I can help train and help correct brain cells. Right. But I can't change attitude and personality. Yeah, right. Which, contrary to Alyssa, who was trying to stage a coup,

it was futile. It didn't exist, even the opportunity to. A lot of our listeners, we had a request for questions. There's a lot of questions. A bulk of them were asking, you know, what's your future? Are you going to be in another incarnation, another version of the show?

And a lot of them ask, if you are, have you learned a lot from last season where the management style that I think you were at odds with last season was friendship versus kind of being a manager, and they can't be together. No. I learned a lot, a hell of a lot. Before you say what you learned, Fraser,

can we talk about something I'm just a little anxious about? Oh, gosh. You are all over the place. I'm scared of this interview. No, no, no. I smoked a little pot, so I'm a little anxious. I don't want to do the thing where we're talking, we're talking, and then you're going, I need to go.

You know what I mean? No, I've canceled my dinner. Oh, you have? Yeah. I was like like these bitches want to chat okay okay because that would have been bad where we're keeping you and i you know so all right we're good what are your lessons we're gonna get drunk i mean we're gonna drink lots of water um yeah so lessons learned. Lessons learned. I learned so much last season. And I think in every experience, you do learn a lot. Like you do,

whether you'd like to think so or not. And no one's perfect. First of all, let's start from the very beginning. A very good place to start. Was when Heather said that, sorry. What did she say?

It was ridiculous. Five minute timeout. Five minute timeout. Flag that, please. 100%. Oh, yeah. Five minute. I'm sorry.

I learned that very early on. Anyway. Yeah. So, I walked onto this vessel, kiddos, quite literally shitting myself. And you didn't see enough of this. As a chief stew or your initial season oh no in my in my real in my in my on my boat before it was beautiful no camera i came onto this boat and i thought what have i done it was a new boat it was the

big it was the largest vessel that below deck have ever chartered okay the largest crew that they'd ever had and here's me as my first experience on below deck as the first male stew in my very little time being a yachty doing this job yeah and i thought it is and i was like you know what okay well someone believes in me it might not be me but someone does um my first night i went to bed and i i was not in a good way i woke up and i went to go to the producers and i said i can't do i i'm honestly at this point where i can't i have to go had filming begun yeah okay we were on date so we had just done the provisions it was the morning after what and i said guys i'm really i need to talk to someone now because i don't know if i can do it. Because I don't know where to begin.

So, guys, just to give you a little bit of an understanding of how it works. You join the vessel. It has been ransacked. Why? Okay. We always wonder this. It looks like gerbils have taken over it for a while. It's like this crazy thing that happens.

Why do they leave a boat that bad? It's the boats been left perfect things happen after that got it but also to repair the vessel they have to take down every deckhead everything has to be rewired you've got cameras every room you've got the whole boat but then everything is then ransacked again right for us so we join with 24 hours of learning your crew learning a vessel you've never been on before i don't know where a knife and fork is let alone a glasses for some water for my guests arriving 24 hours i also have to put away um provisions for six weeks you start with what we call an OG provision. So you do a...

The nuclear goods. The nuclear goods. Yeah. So you've got... So that's not like every charter. That's like a six-hour provision put away. Okay? So many cans of beans.

I also don't know where shit is. And you don't know your co-workers. I don't know them. I don't know myself at this point. I don't know where I am. Lee is dying. Well, Lee's upset. But I'm not going to comment on that. I don't know myself at this point. I don't know where I am. Lee is dying. Well, Lee's upset. But I'm not going to comment on that.

I don't know shit. But I've got 24 hours to make this vessel charter-worthy of charter guests. Yeah. And I thought to myself, I just can't. I just don't know. And I'm a perfectionist. So if I can't do it brilliantly, then I actually don't.

But I thought I've never quit before. I can't do this to myself. And so I swallowed it. What do the producers tell you when you say that? Because I assume you're not, we've actually seen it on film with Matt, the chef. He went to produce and said, I can't do this. I want to quit.

So I never, I just wanted someone to look at me in the face and say, shut up, come do it. Yeah. And someone did. Yeah, that guy faked like multiple face and say, shut up, come do it. Yeah. And someone did. Yeah, that guy faked like multiple injuries. Yeah, he did it a different way. Yeah. I guess I wanted recognition that I was going through a hard time.

I don't know. Matt asked us to stop talking about it, by the way. Oh, cool. Well, let's talk about it for one more second. What Matt did was fake many injuries. And then when they were like, you keep getting hurt a lot. He's like, all right, fine. I don't want to do it anymore.

That experience sounds so panic-inducing to have to learn about and clean it up because it was in a state of absolute disarray. It seems like an impossibility. I think it probably is. There's no way you can do all that work.

And just to remind the audience, the crew at that point was Eddie as the bosun. Yeah. And then Heather. I mean, yes, but I wasn't chief then. So I was just following a lead. But when I joined, this is a new vessel. No one had seen this boat before.

So, you know, Eddie had been on Siena and he could have possibly guided. When I joined Mojo and Davidid we didn't know shit when i put my first lunch on i was looking for placemats knives and forks and cutlery and sorry and um and glasses while the guests were whilst they were getting ready to come for lunch so like that's the level we're going we're at but going back to the original question of what i learned yes i went through shit that season um i realized that i needed to um which i basically what was difficult was that i had a really good crew for half of the season

and we worked phenomenally well that season not only did we make beautifully wonderful tips but we never had a bad comment from a single guest which is unheard of in the franchise trust me i've done my research yeah um unheard of choose to um however then someone else joins when the whole pack is doing quite well. Yeah. And things start, you know. Are you talking about that captain you don't like? I don't know who I'm talking about, but I'm just talking about it. And so I'm like, why is everything going so well, but then things are not? And I'm like, hold on.

I look after the guests. Yeah. Because they're the one who they pay and they matter, right? Right, yeah. But then other things are happening. And I'm like, which is probably a bad decision but i was like just ignore that and let's just continue what we do because we're doing it well and right right and we're getting our tips we're getting paid and we're doing really well and everyone's happy

yeah meanwhile turns out apparently you've got to suck dick even when you don't want to yeah yeah maybe that's the wrong terminology there might not be any dick to suck no sorry it turns out you've got to sometimes uh praise sorry it turns out that sometimes when when hierarchy needs it yeah again i'm so afraid no it's just it's a disgusting thing when you get into the that world that there is politicking that is so like many many is so adverse to the intentions or motives of people who are, I don't know, not so jaded.

It's not a shit on Sandy parade, but she is our least favorite captain though, right? It used to be Captain Lee, but he's not around anymore. Can I ask a Lee question? Please. Oh, I love this leg tapping. Did you cry when Lee left the boat. Oh, I love this leg tapping. Did you cry when Lee left the boat?

Yeah, like a baby. That is so crazy. Isn't that mental? You don't really know him. So that's the stuff you don't see. Yeah. So what you don't see is someone who really wants to be there. Yeah. Okay, I know you guys are assholes.

But listen, there's someone who is trying yeah okay and i and i can i can definitely relate to that as in not with myself but with other people i've seen like like you know for example and i hated making this reference but my grandfather uh he he was um he wasn't able to be physical for the last few years. And that really bothered him because he was so mentally there. And so I would see this and the push, the drive and the enthusiasm given from my captain was so there and so passionate. And he wanted it so badly, but things were so bad for him. It was just hard to see that. And I think, do you know what i

was also just like i was like this is shit for me i hate what i'm doing i haven't i want to go home yeah but you are my little rock at the moment because i'm telling you to go every day right right right and then he left and then i was you know dealing with the rest so lee was a positive reinforcement for you okay this all right this is shocking me because he comes off, I'm triggered by Lee because he reminds me of every male figure that was a dick to me

as a younger person. Like, it's just, it's almost like he's from a different time. I totally get that. But everything is very like, it's all just threats. No, no, I'm not going to talk about

how Dale DiMantopoulos whipped me around with my helmet on. Yeah, no, I'm not going to talk about how Dale D'Amatopoulos whipped me around with my helmet on. And so I just don't like that management style. I prefer your management style, which is I'm going to be pleasant, nice, and dare I say, kind of your friend until you show me that I can't. Until you fuck me off and then things are going to go south. He starts off with, I don't like you. He doesn't say that, but there is definitely a line between us.

Do it. But, but, think about it. off with i don't like you he doesn't say that do it but there is definitely a line between us do it but but don't be bad think about it that's been lee's thing from day one correct you you you're not going to change things now and if you do it's going to be like who's this bitch well i um we should evolve even at as we get older i would there's There's no expiry date on evolving. We joke. Well, death. That is very much the expiry date of involvement. But who knows what happens?

I mean, you know, I don't. So maybe it's not. That is a very, very good reason and a beautiful reason to shed a tear. I mean, it's not. Listen, I. No, totally. It's like seeing him in a prison is very sad. I was so embarrassed watching back.

I was like, you, let's see. I was like, what is wrong with you? I was so emotional. I was so emotional. And I was like, the last thing I want to do is cry. And I cried when that stupid bitch Camille left. And I was like, what's wrong? And I was like, hold on, I get it.

19 hour days of work. Hate my crew and my life. You're, you're, you're in a black site, essentially. I have no idea. I can't tell my left and right.

Can I ask this? I think a lot of listeners would wonder, like we all sit in front of the television every Monday night, below deck people. We love it. You as a participant on the show, how do you watch the show? Are there episodes that you know are coming up

where you're like, yeah, I'm not watching that one? I have no idea. I have no idea what's coming up. So every week is just like immense suspense. Did anything shock you or like, oh, fuck. So much. Can you share? Yeah, Camille's behavior,

because she acted like an absolute angel around me yeah if i was there and i'm assuming that she clocked me and boom yeah and then i'd hear a lissa come to me and be like oh my god and you know yap yap yap and i'm not for yapping i just shut it down we're here to work when i do best friends just work yeah and it was like and she was like dobbing her in every day and i was like i'm not seeing this until i see it so then but then you get you know then you get highlighted on situation so then you start maybe peering over here just to check on things and then i saw it and i was like oh wait this this is awful yeah but i but watching it was it was embarrassing for me i I wish I'd seen more. It goes into that whole you becoming a manager thing.

Under the umbrella of you managing these people in this specific situation, you have to turn into a kind of pet detective of sorts. You have to figure out what's going on here. Who's telling the truth? It's like a game of clue. Yes. But in an ideal world, I would have a crew that I,

what I mean by that is that as long as I can see the job getting done, I can see my guests paying us very well in terms of tips and everyone is doing like, then it's fine. If I've got two girls hating each other well then welcome to yachting right if i've got 10 girls hating each other welcome to yachting yeah i don't give a shit yeah i honestly don't care yeah no you guys are but then when people start getting involved then i have to care yeah no. No comment. I love it. This is so, it couldn't be more like further away from being buried.

I mean. But I appreciate his candor. Yeah. And when you're saying like, it's tough to confront that criticism. Why do you even feel the need to confront it at all? Just dismiss it. Everybody that watched the show was like, this is insane. And I agree with that, but he, I don't know.

I assume like all of us, we probably that but he i don't know i assume like all of us we probably lie and say we don't but we read the comments and they do have an effect on us yeah and sandy does have i know i just pulled an andy cohen oh did you oh they're just trolls forget it daisy yeah right much easier to say andy well it's important what you think because you guys you're the reason why we've got a a show. And it's also important for us to know how it's being edited to see what you guys are seeing and understanding. Yeah. Because how we live it is very different to how you see it.

Yeah. And so when I listen to your, I say you guys, but I mean like fans' comments, I'm like, well, going forward, maybe I should be hyper aware of this because they're not seeing the truth. Not to say it's not the truth. Recipe for disaster, just fuck them. And a lot of people in us, for the sake of comedy,

you have to make quick judgments. Often incorrect judgments. Incorrect judgments, evaluations, in our case, for a laugh. But a lot of people, I think they're just, they see one scene, for example, I forget who the person was, Chase. He was on the last season of Sailing. Yeah.

And he had a bad episode where he was saying that he wanted to take shots off a girl's breasts. Lucky Lucy. And he went from being a fan favorite, as you would look in any comments, to Satan. And these things are very perilous because there's often like either no accuracy or just a failure of understanding of what's going on. This is not an example of this, but this is an example of us getting it 100 percent correct. But something like you see Captain Glenn on below deck sailing. He goes away from the yacht. People think he kills ladies of the night. People don't. We were correct about that,

but those are the kind of assumptions that people can get to. Kind of haphazardly. So do we have any fan questions? I mean, we've been rattling off a bunch. I think we're just having a fun kind of conversation. Can we just clarify another thing which really pissed me off?

Yeah. Everyone's like, Fraser, why didn't you fire Camille day one? First of all, if you were watching said fans, you understand that I wasn't her boss until Sandy made me her full-time boss. And when I made her... Oh, that's right.

When I was her full-time boss, I fired her the next day. So everyone's like, Fraser, you fucking shit manager. Get rid of her. Well, if you were watching Couch Human, you would understand that I wasn't in charge of her. And... Ross was still trying to have sex with her. He wasn't sure if he...

He was like, we can't fire her. I might fuck her. He still needs to go. And then I'm like, also, i'm not the captain as much as kind of ham um i still can't fire them i've got to wait for someone else to yeah right but get your facts right fans right right totally agree all right so you mentioned ross so there are some people that we see on this show that obviously they are good at their job they've been doing it and somehow they got roped into being filmed on a television show that airs on bravo and you can

clearly see at least i can as a viewer who's cut out for it and who's not okay so do you know when you're filming like oh that this is the last time they'll ever be on television like this might be too much for them can you no i think i think it's important i think it's very important to understand that when we do this job we enter into it into a zone of do your job and do it right because if you do it wrong the whole world is going to see you doing your this is my profession my career if i mess up the whole world i've not got a job anymore yeah so i don't think about anyone else what they're doing afterwards what they're doing during i know that i'm going to do my job and if they're not right if they're not right fit for the

job or doing it well i couldn't give a fuck and i and i'm like yeah you can be on again i don't care what i care is i'm gonna like i don't think that far ahead i don't think about anyone else's career the work comes before the show it does i don't think people understand that because a lot of people join this show or apply to this show guys it's the biggest ick in my life yeah to find out that my friends who are on the show have applied. Oh, okay. That's interesting. Ew. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, for fuck's sake. Like, and I know this sounds really awful, but like, fame-hungry people make me really upset. Not upset, but I'm just like, don't. I think when the work comes before the show, that's usually your ticket day because it's so successful but it's such a unique reality experience where

you can kind of do that because if you're on something like vanderpump rules you are there you show up to a scene and i guess you're like well i guess i gotta fight with my best friend to yeah but i don't but you don't need to do that you just need to do what you've been doing before you get on the show. And authenticity is the only thing that actually works. It works and it matters in a job. Again, we're not turning up twice a week to film. We're 24 hours for six intensive weeks. I don't care who you are or what your plans are.

Just do the job. I think that's why it's gone well so far for me because i don't give a shit about that keep that up because because that's why you're going to be on the show forever all right so one other question we probably can't use this and when you we probably can't use this so flag this in case did you tap me back i did sorry okay um so one thing that we always used to be fascinated with with Kate, Queen of the Sea, when she'd come on the show and we'd ask her, is she did, I think she was six seasons.

And at that point, she was hanging out with Chrissy Teigen. Six seasons. Was she hanging out with her? Oh, yeah. Six seasons, 37 the entire time. So it would be, what the hell? Age-wise. Yeah.

Okay. She was a bitch, she did.? Age-wise. Yeah. Okay. She was a bitch, she did. She always did that. So for me, it was always, how do you do this where you can hang out at John Legend's and Chrissy Teigen's house for the weekend, and then they say it's time to film, and then you need to get coffee at six in the morning for paying customers and be able to flip into that role of being kind of a celebrity in your own right yeah and flip a switch and just say this is my role as service is is that something you've thought about how you have to find a balance

yes yeah and a very good point to make because i I think it's, I think it's ignored. Oh, thanks pal. Fist pump it. It's ignored. Don't cry me a river, but get, since doing Below Deck, I mean, still cry me a river, but. Justin Timberlake.

Great album. I loved it. Since doing the show has meant that I've missed out on some beautiful jobs. I mean, talking about the, the best jobs in the industry because of the show. So I've got through all the interviews,

worked on it, done my stuff. And then the owner finds out that I've been on Below Deck and says, just not going to do it. I have a question. So with being on Below Deck, and one thing that has been missing in your tenure on the show is no romantic interests. Is that something that you've pushed off

just as a professional decision? Because you're not going to get in the muck. You want to be zero focused. What a fantastic question. I got to say, Patrick, I am really impressed by that question. I'm quite impressed too. Yeah. Oh, thanks.

Fantastic question. They've not hooked me up with anyone. I'm quite impressed too. Yeah. Oh, thanks. Fantastic question. They've not hooked me up with anyone. I'm desperate. Every year I'm like, come. What about when you guys go out and you all binge drink and throw up on each other? Why don't you find anybody there? First of all, let's wind back. The last two years I've been doing it has been in COVID.

The only person I can make out with is a table or a chair or possibly a waiter with a mask. As much as that sounds adorable, not for me. I'm really excited for you guys to have people to intermingle with. Sign me up. Throw someone on there who's going to tick my fancy. You're open to it because I thought that was one of your

guidelines. Who would I have got with so far? There are the nights out. COVID is a great explanation. That kid that was constantly talking about how he was going to do it. Who? The kid. He was talking about how he was going to come up to you. Kyle? Kyle wasn't on that boat. No, it was the new kid that came on. Tyler.

And he was like, he was throwing a little shade at you. I think he was like, oh, I think we could be doing this better if I remember correctly. All right, let's get to the next question. By the way, such a gracious guest answering all our questions. I know. If you don't mind, I don't know how long we can have you.

Can we ask some listener questions? Okay, fat. All right. These might be really stupid. Feel free to completely push them. Hey, thanks for being here, Frazier. I'm touched. It's nice having you.

All right. I'm too old to be able to read these questions anymore, so hold on. You guys talk about, I don't know, what was going on in there? What happened when Frasier went into it? He said hi to my daughter? Yeah, I was babysitting. What were you doing?

I was out here talking to Kalen and Kalen was like, I think he fucking hates you. I was like, oh well. I do apologize for walking in being like, you're a cunt. Okay. Okay. I do apologize for walking in being like You're a cunt Okay Okay This is from Jessica Lynn

Great question Wait till you hear this Who have you met in the below deck world that you despise? Now we've covered one already But I think that we can Roll that into There is someone. Okay.

Can you say it? Can you say it? Which I won't say, but... Damn it. Actively despise. Yeah. Okay. To the point where I'm like...

Okay. Someone that's been on the show. Yeah. Okay. And not mine. There you go. Okay. Male or female?

No, no, no. He's given us enough. Let's not get greedy. But we can roll that into something I hope you can talk about. I think you can. Worst guest of last season. Oh, this is really awful. I don't know how to phrase it any differently,

but the Indian guests we had. Yeah, they were pretty rude. Pretty rude? It was harrowing. Your phone died. I need to go get my phone so we can ask more listener questions. Oh, you can grab it, Caelan. Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

So can you get into a little bit more? So it seemed like they were more rude to the chef. Everything seemed like they kept, if my memory serves, everything need to be five star. That was their little mantra. Five star. We expect five star.

Five star. Am I correct in remembering that? Were these the people that smoked the cigars wrong? Backwards. Yeah, so I'm not sure what stars they were looking at. But maybe they were looking, yeah. Okay, so

you know, Stu, our admin, he's doing a great job. But not good enough. He's telling everybody that they're hot. Okay, do you want to, you know, Rachel Griffith, this is just, I don't like the implication of this, do you want to... Rachel Griffith, this is just... I don't like the implication of this.

Do you want to work with Captain Hotpants? Captain Jason. Jason's a good pal of mine. I like Jason. We talk a lot. How long have you known him? Since BravoCon last year. Okay. But we talk a lot. We're very supportive of each other. How many captains at any given

time are helming these yachts? Is it that small of a world where you know each other? No, it's just below deck. Once we're in this hype, then we either support each other or we don't. All right, so this is a great set of questions from Sean. But Jason's a good boy. So that's nice to know. We used to cover Bachelor, and now we hate it,

but there was a thing called Bachelor Nation. And there were so many seasons and so many different versions of the show in any given year. There could be 30, 40 cast members, and they all kind of found each other, and it was a shared experience. And it would seem the only other series that I think that rivals that is now the Below Deck world.

But you know what? We only come together because we're the... This is going to sound awful. The worst paid, like, street, like, quite literally home... I'm probably not going to use that. We're quite literally just like... You're at the house.

We're normal people who have to still hustle. Yeah. Whereas you've got these housewives, all the rest, living the reality TV dream. And we're just rummaging through rubbish daily to get our fits. So that's how we're together. Until you're not. We have a lot of fantastic fit questions. And I want to get to as many as we can. But I think that we should do rapid fire.

Okay, great. Okay. So just be quick sticks. You've learned something today. Meredith Lorroway asks. Okay, also I don't need to do the names. They like to hear their names. Go on, Meredith.

Was it annoying that Captain Lee called you Mr. Olander the entire season? No, it was respectful. Nice. Did Camille get a bad edit? No. What's the most disgusting thing? This is from Mallory Resendez. Beautiful name.

What is the most disgusting thing you've ever seen a guest do on Charter? Um. I don't think they pay you enough. What was the story before season 10? This is from Sean Bergen. What was the story before season 10 when you said Rachel was evil this season? Did she get a protected edit?

How do you feel about Rachel now? There are two questions there. You can pass, too though you can pass too you can pass no um we can exit i had a really so here we go i had a really good season with chef rachel and then i watched her back and i was like okay because yeah and i'll just quickly yeah i was there and my crew were there waiting to take plates out. And if there's no plate to go in my hand, then whose fault is it really? If my guests are at the table and your food's not coming out and my hand is here, whose fault is it? And try and blame me. But no, but you did and it worked.

But like, try a little bit of lacking of empathy on your part, though, right? Because she was being attacked by nightmares while she was cooking. She's a... We love her. She's a little kooky. Alright, so I have a question to jump off that. Last one, right? No, we got a couple more. We're going to have a couple drinks. I'm getting very fatigued.

After the mics turn off, we're going to have a couple cocktails and get real. I'm ready for it. Okay. So we've watched a couple of, especially the last couple episodes of sailing where charter guests are fighting and i theorize i feel a good question coming on right now because they are spending a lot of money and there's a lot of pressure to take in every part of enjoyment and then from that pressure kind of closes in on them and there begins infighting. Have you seen that

in your own experience as a chief stew where you're like, these people should all be having a wonderful time and now why are they at each other's throats? Can I add something to that? Please. Second part, do those people, are those people often the people who are struggling to afford

the vacation? Wow. I've got two answers for you. It's difficult to gauge how to deal... Oh, this is terrible. Okay, well, let's do a pass on this. Well, I mean, no, hold on, because this is quite a good question. Chartered guests are always going to have their problems, right? It's not my problem, issue, or care to deal with them um but is it embarrassing for them in

the long run yes and actually kudos to them it also seems like it wreaks a little havoc on kind of just the vibe at dinners and excursions and but that's not my problem the only problem i have with that is that they may experience a bad evening a bad experience because of their interpersonal issues, which will reflect eventually on me personally, maybe more than anything. Have you ever witnessed a physical altercation? Yeah, amazing. Yeah, so good.

Did you say that she... Are you kidding me? How else do I get through a season without this drama? Where do they fight? I've seen seen it i've seen a lot honestly you would have a lot of drinking drinking but you know real sorry um rich no hold on um guess yeah no yeah so like people who actually charge a real yacht yes like people with actual money like uh leonardo dicaprio yes so um the guests that i've worked with previously have um class they're in steel they have money yeah they know they know yeah and i know that I know guess who don't know who's the most famous person you've ever

worked with I'll tell you artists did you say she threw her tampon on the floor and took a shit I wish I could stand up and show you she walked in this is when I was in housekeeping I was a little pathetic

no you weren't I'm sorry just for reference how far does your career go back in this industry five years six years five years um but I climbed that ladder like no other bitch I was like do you know what I joined very late so a lot of

so yachting so usually you join at 1920 yeah that's when all the... That's when you're really running from things. That's when the despots join. And then they work their way up from there. Yeah. I joined at 26.

I was elderly. I was used and abused by then. I was like, you know what? Right. I'm going to make this work. Cool. Because I used to be a model agent working in London for a very high profile agency. I was head of men's commercial bookings.

You know, I was doing like three million pound dollars a week. I was a big boy. I was in Milan, Paris, New York, London. I was a big boy. What was the moment where the change happened? I went on a boat. That sounds like sex in the city new sex in the city starring guys i i joined i went i was a guest on a seafield and i spent

98 percent of my time with the crew and i was like i fucking hate everyone i'm here with yeah but i saw this crew with such excitement awe and just pure happiness in their job and i thought how the how do you got how are you so happy in what you're doing i've never experienced it like i've never seen this genuine awe in the job that you're doing it was a lie and i was like it was a total lie and i was like i was like that is what i want from life because i haven't had that in five years of doing that job yeah and so sat my family down that thought i was having a mental breakdown and i was like i'm going to quit my job get a backpack moved to a hostel in the south of france do something called dock walking, which is every morning,

walking up and down the docks and handing out a CV and selling your soul to a boat until they hire you. But like in Nice. Nice, Monaco, Cannes, Saint-Tropez. Yeah. And we've heard that...

It's a horrible experience. Where do you eat? You can't afford anything. Don't they have places where you can stay for cheap? Hostel. So when I say hostel, I thought hostel was just like a like a motel turns out it's like quite literally a shack on the side of the road with no lock or key to your door yeah but i was like do you know

what if i'm going to do this i'm going to put all my dignity aside and fucking do it and do it well. That is such an incredibly scary thing to do. It was horrible. But, again, if you want something, you can make it work for you. Then I worked very quickly up the ladder and I was like, I'm not going to be head of housekeeping or, oh my god, my first job. It's so admirable that you did that.

No, it's not. Everyone can do it, though. No, not everybody. I don't know that you were right in doing it, but it was very admirable that you did that. No, it's not. It's like everyone can do it, though. No, no, no. But guys, first job. I don't know that you were right in doing it, but it was very admirable that you did that. What a fun journey, too, and a path mostly untroubled. But guys, best thing ever, my first job, 26, bearing in mind people have done this for years, and I'm like the oldest person on board. Yeah.

I took the first job I could get, because I was like, just give me something, and I'll prove to everyone that I can do it. First job, I was on a 50-meter, which is 10 meters smaller than St David right I was a crew member to the crew not even to the guests I was literally their toilet paper and I would serve them teas coffees and clean up their shit every single fucking at 26 when people above me were like 21 19 how they treat you hopefully there was some respect there in my first on my first day quite

homophobic actually the first day the guy knew that i was gay when i joined and i made teas and coffees and um i made exactly how i knew he wanted to make so i heard he was tricky and i was washing out the dishes and he poured his boiling hot tea over my hands on my first day. And I remember it being an agony and I was like, keep going, keep going. This will be fine in the end. And I was like, I've lived in a hostel for the past four weeks.

I've changed my whole life for this job. I'm going to be the best. Deal with this and keep going. Just keep going. Did your skin bubble up? Yeah. Fucking Christ. Wow.

You have had so many pussy things happen to you. Puss everywhere. Yeah. What an amazing journey. But just like do it. I think it's important for people to know, but you listen as well. Like you literally can get and do anything you want.

If you have the right mindset, focus, positivity and kindness towards it. What's the end game now? You're not going to die. You're never going to... When you die, you die. When you die, you die,

but you're not going to die making a change like that. But it seems like you're going to experience it. People freak out. People are too comfortable. Generally, people that are successful have kind of a vision for where they want to be. Obviously, it seems like you are... But that can also change. Absolutely. And it should.

So you may have had a different endgame. Do you have a different one now? We can't ask that. No, you can. It can. Okay. So... You're going to replace Ryan Seacrest? I think you're going to replace Ryan Seacrest. You're not far off. Are you going to fucking replace Ryan Seacrest? I love watching you. to replace Ryan Seacrest. You're not far off. Are you going to fucking replace Ryan Seacrest?

I love watching you. And hopefully you'll be on another season. And I think it would be an amazing season if they have you on. We love you. This is the first coming from you after all the years. You know, I think that's actually, I think that's quite. I'm joking. I think we actually liked you.

We're a substitute. When I heard you, I was like when i heard you i was like good boys good boys good boys when i didn't know i was just like because i think you guys are so funny i think you guys have a really great interpretation of the show and how it shows in reality we've got a lot of podcasts about the show which don't do it justice yeah and i feel like you both have devil as an advocate and not and it's a brilliant a brilliant and very very good um i feel like if someone's not watching this show to listen to you would get the best outcome of it thank you very much that's really sweet you've always been a good

sport yeah we love watching you we can't wait to keep watching you because bravo if you don't hire him and keep hiring you're done that's a bad fucking move. Anything to plug? Your TikTok has lots of cryptic jump rope things. After that? Cryptic. Nothing to plug now, but some fun stuff

coming up. Follow Fraser on all the socials. I'm a Frazier Olander. Instagram, TikTok. Type it in. Follow him. Thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming in.

Of course. That's it. Bye, guys. Fuck no. Thank you.