Kill James Bond! - Sea Rat Interview: Hayley De Sola Pinto

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

We are joined by the Sea Rat Therapist herself, Hayley. We talk the feud between Alissa and Camille, the magic of botox, crystals, how Hayley was cast on the show, how Hayley should have been single cause that would have been great and even more.

Would I say that Camille could have pulled her weight a bit more? Yeah. But I love her. I think she's a fantastic person. Right. You know, if she were here right now, I'd have a great laugh with her. Yeah, exactly. And you don't feel that way about Alyssa at all.

But she really works really hard. You're hilarious. joining us on the blower from parts unknown although i think it's Cornwall, is none other than the resident therapist of this season of Below Deck OG. She may be a subtype of Sea Witch, maybe a crystal reader. We mean that in the best way possible. It is none other than Haley. Hey. Thank you for joining us. You're very welcome.

Now, I have to say this, Dylan alright because I've done this many times with the cast members of the show you said you wish Hayley was single on the show and it stucks that she's not single you said that that's true bravo please cast members that are single okay because Hayley would have been phenomenal as a single sea rat

and you're saying she's not phenomenal no she is phenomenal but in a single sea rat. And you're saying she's not phenomenal. No, she is phenomenal, but in a very different way. Hayley, you are so fun. You're almost like the peanut gallery off to the side, kind of watching all the drama unfold. And you have all these funny little quips and super quick wit,

really fun. It just would have been a little better if you had found affections for fellow sea rat. Yeah. What's your fucking problem? I do apologize. Thank you. I mean, my boyfriend's probably got,

you know, something to do with it. I don't know if he would have been too happy if I'd shagged everyone on the boat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, Hayley, every once in a while, when we ask our listeners, like, we're going to have a while when we ask we uh our listeners like we're gonna have a cast member on and we need questions when i put out there that you were gonna be on the show i can i can tell you i've never received this many questions you're a fan favorite yes i i'm yeah it's not that i'm shocked it's just it's a lot of questions and it's yeah i think it's because

you're a mystery. What is it? Wrapped up in an enigma. An enigma. Yeah. A British mystery. As a mystery, yeah. People want to know you more. I think that's the thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And there's good and bad here. Because we don't think Hayley's getting enough lens time. But that's because this season has been dominated so far by a controversy within Haley's interior. We're going to get into all that and we're going to hold her feet to the fire and we're going to make her pick a side.

There's just no way out of it. But first we ask, we ask every guest the same horrendously boring question that Pat will ask. All right, first off, Dylan, the listeners love this question because they like to see how it's made, okay? It's a bad question. Hayley, we know you've been working in this industry for a while,

but how did you find your way in front of these cameras on this damn TV show? I was approached, and that was that see do you see why i was on the boat you see this you know a couple of months and that was it well it's not very exciting i can't give you like a really dramatic of course you cut it because they're never they're never exciting dramatic stories so it's such a bad question what is hayley when i ask that question what you say the correct answer is i killed someone in australia and i was hiding under an alias and that's how i ended up on the show that's not what happened to her but i know i couldn't possibly admit to that because i i'm not here

hayley so let's talk about your relationship with yachting it seems a bit tenuous it seems like you're not in love with the vocation of tending to the wealthy on yachts is that because well you have a separate hustle

you're an esthetician are you not I am I'm actually in my room right now this is where all the magic happens so i've been doing this for about two or three years and actually i feel like i really really enjoyed filming the show it was really good to be back in your thing yeah this is great i love aesthetics and i am very passionate about it but it doesn't feed my soul like your thing does okay it's it's a combination of you know being

with with new people and traveling and earning good money it's exciting right, yeah, that was definitely, I think, why I wanted to go and do the show. But also, I don't know, I feel like it was very hard. It was very difficult, very long hours. And I think that with my feet, I know you saw that I had a really intense ankle going on. I would love to talk about that. That was the result of long hours. Yes. And probably too much salt, actually, let's face it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that'll happen to you. Karen Tiley, a listener, she wants to know, did you realize that you were experiencing was pitting edema? Yeah, did you know that? Was that the diagnosis? Did you know that it was pitting edema? Yeah, so I've seen this a little bit online.

I know you said that was hilarious. Yeah, I've seen this online. I'm thinking, what is this? I guess I just flipped past all of these comments and thought, it's not this, it's not that. Couldn't it possibly have been that? But actually, I don't know, maybe you can enlighten me. What is, I can't even say the word oh so here's where we're gonna we're gonna rub up against an

issue so what has happened here is pat has taken a screenshot of a question and the question the question says has within it pitting edema the research has gone no further than that. So were you... Yeah, I know. We have no fucking idea what that's called. But to be fair, the listener should not be diagnosing this either. Yeah, no. Well, I want to ask you about that moment because we talked about it on the show where... And I don't think the person that was treating you

was snooty or condescending or anything, but there is a little bedside manner when someone is concerned about something and they've seen it happen a thousand times. There's a way to go about saying nothing's wrong with you that can be done a little bit more courteously because I've been in that situation where you're like, courteously because I've been in that situation where you're like, Hey, my foot's never been the size of a giant foot before. So if you could tell me what's going on here, that would be great. I'm rambling and it's not early in the morning for us, but we did start early and I don't know what's going on with my brain. I think we Dylan's going with this, did you actually have a doctor, an actual practicing doctor,

take a look at this bum ankle of yours? Yeah, what's he mean to you about how there's nothing wrong? I'm so sorry. Yeah, so I did have a doctor. To be honest, I didn't really find it that reassuring. Yeah, so I did have a doctor. I mean, to be honest, I didn't really find it that reassuring. Yeah. I was like, yeah, that's a paracetamol.

It should be all right. Normally they say put your feet up, but there's absolutely no chance of that happening anytime soon. Right. So, yeah, I was still a little bit concerned, I must be honest. I had to keep putting my feet in an ice bucket, which was horrendous. Right. To say the least.

Very fun. Yeah. But, yeah, my foot was actually quite worrying. To be honest, it would keep me up at night. It was so painful. I was thinking, like, what is actually going to happen here? I know. I was in the same boat. And to have somebody, no pun intended,

and just have somebody come over and just be like, listen, you don't have a cow. You know, I'd be like, look at my foot. It looks like a hoof or something. Meredith Larraway wants to know, how's it, There was absolutely no difference between my knee and my foot. It was absolutely horrific. Meredith Larraway wants to know, how's it going now? Is the ankle okay? Yeah, absolutely. I know I'm resting often, so thank you. Okay, so I would like to ask about Botox.

Okay. When, like, okay, so if I'm seeing some rinkies, right, when do I need to start doing Botox, and am I going to look like Zsa Zsa Gabor if I start doing Botox too early? Like, when do I need to start getting the needles? Because he's addicted to this stuff. He gets Botox like...

Oh, really? Dylan, the Kardashians started doing it when they were actually in Chris's womb. Yeah, no, I know. But I'm not sure if that's good for you. So anyways, when do I need to start doing Botox? One of the long-term health benefits and drawbacks of it. Okay.

I can tell you. So, I mean, a lot of people are under the idea that, you know, you shouldn't have Botox young, you know, in your 20s, 30s, but actually it's preventive. It's used as a preventive. I treat

clients, you know, with using it as a preventive because when you create, you know, i'm a very expressionist person so as you're making expressions you're creating wrinkles yeah it makes complete sense to relax those muscles so you're not then able to make expression like you were before so it basically irons out your face. Right. I think it's a very un-invasive treatment, probably the most un-invasive that I do.

And actually, I think everyone should have it. Who doesn't want to lose a face? I don't understand. Yeah. It shouldn't be preference. Because, I mean, lips and cheek fillers and things, I get that because it's, you know, lips and cheek fillers and things, I get that. Because it's, you know, it's that changing the way you look.

But Botox is just not being wrinkly. Dylan, I was deeply insecure as a teenager because I had what we refer to in America as frownies. I'm not sure what you call that in the UK. But I had these deep cavernous wrinkles on my forehead. I was a 14-year-old. And it always affected me when I take pictures. So when Botox came to me, I was like, I'm in. Yeah, Pat loves Botox. I completely agree with you.

Was it here in the center? No, it was lines going across my forehead. Oh, my gosh. That's disgusting. Well, that would have been from your eyesight if you have bad eyes. It helped me see better because it actually raised my eyebrows. That is stunning information. I always look tired.

Did you notice your headaches? It helps with headaches as well. Yes, yes. She's doing God's work. By the way, one listener wants to know, can we call you the good sea witch? Yeah, so how do you feel about how do you feel about the uh the moniker of witch because you do have a certain amount of mysticism surrounding your character on the boat people seem to be coming and talking to you and you're not kind of luring them at all knowingly and i

honestly feel bad for you because everybody's just turning you into a sounding board and it's honestly it looks like my worst fucking nightmare but anyways are you witchy do you charge crystals and full moons oh I'd love to say that I am but I'm so not in any way

safe or form I think I've always been a bit of an agony aunt, I suppose. People have always come to me for advice. Apparently, I'm all right at giving advice. Apparently, so absolutely horrific at taking it. But I'm very good at listening and giving relatively good advice. Okay, okay.

I think that was one. So I've become a bit of an emotional sponge sometimes, especially in the situation that was one. So I've become a bit of an emotional sponge sometimes, especially in the situation that we had. What situation is that? What situation are you referring to? I suppose there was a little bit of trauma going on on the boat. Yeah, a little bit. There was a little bit of conflict going on on the boat. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. There was a little bit of conflict going on on St. David.

Yeah, just a smidge. And Haley was usually somewhere in the middle. Right. Maybe on the edge of the boat, maybe sometimes mostly in the middle. Yeah. Now, should we just get into it and have her render a decision categorically and conclusively? Team Camille or team alissa no no no we can't jump in that quickly we can't jump in that quickly let's let's talk about what was going

on between the two of them so obviously this is a a tough thing to render a decision on and and dare i say a decision need not be rendered because it's uh two young women fighting and hating each other there's really you don't need to come down on one side of the other but what was happening was camille uh seems to um be a little flighty a little aloof a little lazy but that's because she is having daydreams of musical success as the artist Millie illicit. I don't blame her. Alyssa is young,

a young and super fucking bead. And, but she works really hard. She works really hard. So it was, it was oil and vinegar. It was oil and vinegar, oil and water.

What insights do you have of watching this play out before your eyes that you can enlighten us, enlighten the audience? Yeah, what happened? I'm going to say now, I'm not going to take a side because that's not just me not being honest

with you. That's actually how I feel. Actually in that situation it was really hard for me because obviously I was I shared a cabin with Alyssa yeah so she's the last person that I want on my case you know yeah sometimes I, hang on a minute, you probably shouldn't have said that. That was a really crap delivery. Right. I, you know, I wasn't going to, I wasn't going to be that person. You know, maybe if, you know, I don't know.

But basically, I feel like Camille's work ethic and then Alyssa's delivery, those girls just did not like each other. They were very, they were the complete opposite. Right. And I honestly think that it was just, they had a serious dislike for each other. Would I say that Camille could have pulled her weight a bit more? Yeah. But I love her. I think she's a fantastic person.

Right. If she was here right now, I'd have a great laugh with her. Yeah, exactly. And you don't feel that way about Alyssa at all, but she really works really hard. You're hilarious. I feel like me and Camille were probably on more of the same wavelength. Yeah. For sure. I feel like we shared a more similar sense of humor. Yeah.

Yeah. It was funny. You guys are easy going, nice, you have a sense of humor. She's young. She's very young, she's got a lot to learn. And I think she's, both girls have looked back probably and thought, hey, like I probably could have done this differently, you know, so far. So yeah. Okay.

I don't know, what I'm trying to say is I like both of them, but I do feel like if someone's, the only time I'm going to have a problem with somebody, and I think this is for a lot of people, is if they have an issue or they're nasty with me. Right. I find it hard to be horrible to somebody if they haven't been mean to me. Like, it's not in me.

I can't do that. Same way, girlfriend. Same way. You know what I mean? I have got a kind heart, and I would struggle to just randomly have a go at someone or be sarcastic or horrible with their delivery, which is why I got quite confused sometimes when Alyssa would speak to people the way that she did.

The way that she did, yeah. And I have a... Yeah, because it's not, that's not me. I couldn't relate. Sure. I just want to make a quick amendment. I said that Camille was easygoing, nice, and humorous. Are you nuts?

Yeah. I want to take those back. Because Camille's not necessarily easy going. I mean, she is funny in her own right. And she does seem a little bit nicer than Alyssa, but we're not picking sides here. Okay. We're not picking sides. The way I mentioned this on the podcast, Haley, the way I looked at it, sometimes there's just two people that hate each other right out of the gate and there's no pulling them back together. And that was these two individuals. And there's nothing that anybody could have done to intervene to stop them from hating

each other. Well, I think that bleeds us into... You're completely right. There's nothing that is completely right because there is nothing anybody could have done to have stopped that conflict even you know fraser changing changing shifts around you know so that they weren't having to spend as much time together that that didn't help they they should they'd always find a way you know so with regards to fraser listener caroline keegan's ass was frazier truly as hands off as it as it appeared as viewers watching it was that your perception hands off hands off um

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And as opposed to interjecting yourself in a situation or kind of addressing it. You kind of stay on the sideline very much like you did. Yeah. No, he did everything that he possibly could have. I think Fraser was there to give chances. And I think people have got to remember that this is Fraser's first season as a Chiefs Chief and considering that I think he did an absolutely outstanding job. I'm not saying that because I'm biased and I'm his friend. I'm honestly saying that from as a colleague's

perspective he's incredible at what he does and one thing about Fraser I mean a lot of Chiefs Chiefs they sit on their arse and they don't actually do a lot of chiefs do they sit on their ass and they don't actually do a lot of work they kind of just give the job out and then they write lists Fraser works his ass off quite honestly and he he's hit like if anything he needed to

not do that he needed to give more jobs to us but he works so hard and I think you know, give more jobs to us. But he worked so hard. And I think he didn't want to take sides as well because actually there's only so much that he knew that he wasn't there all the time. He's not everywhere every time that they'd have a disagreement.

So it was always her word against hers, you know? Yeah, right. And I think that's quite hard to make a decision in that sense because yeah you shouldn't make it i think that his work cut out is what he has we've been talking about it throughout the season and i think we just stumbled upon this recently because you're kind of in the muck watching the show. And then once Camille gets let go, you kind of have a 36,000 foot view of it. And you're like, good God, did Frazier just get fucked with his first time out?

I can't imagine a more difficult thing to contend with your first time helming a boat. So we love Frazier. We think Frazier is doing a great job. Now, a listener has a question for Ross, because Frasier also had to contend with a guy in another department, a head of department, that's going around trying to have sex with everybody. Well, he's a goddamn sex addict.

He's Caligula. He's a goddamn sex addict. Jen McElroy asks to Haley, were you concerned Ross was going to try and hook up with you? Oh, God. I think everyone was you concerned Ross was going to try and hook up with you? Oh, God. I think everyone was concerned that Ross was going to try and hook up with them, to be honest. I think Ross was probably scared of hooking up

with himself. Honestly, not really. I can handle myself. Do you know what I mean? If he ever was flirtatious towards me, I could be like, shut up, Ross. You know what I mean?

Right. Go annoy someone else. Face push. Now, I want to ask a controversial question, and I think Hayley's going to pass this, but let's see if she's got the guts to answer it. Are you going to ask her about girl code and whether or not Alyssa was being a demon

when she was stepping in? Oh, we can get to that. Oh, okay. But first, a more pressing matter. Okay. Hayley, which captain do you prefer? Come on, take the question. Lee or Sandy?

Answer the question. You've got to answer the question. Answer the question, Hayley. So what I will say, before watching the show, not before watching the show, before being on the show, I used to watch it religiously. I'm like the biggest fan. I was always a Captain Lee fan.

Okay. However, after actually working with Captain Sandy, that really, I wish that one of them was mean to me and I could say that, yeah, actually I prefer, but they were both so lovely to me oh yeah I thought I was gonna have to eat someone's ass yeah Hayley the difference between Sandy and Lee is that Sandy does not threaten your termination with imaginary plane tickets in their pocket um so that kind of makes her better. But following up on the Lee thing,

did you cry when he left the boat? Yes. Why did you? Why is everybody crying? You knew the guy for two days. Why is everybody crying? Okay. I wasn't like actually

like blubbering into my hands by the way it was probably just like a cousin of little kids coming down I should say I didn't like lose the thought but I think he's just so sweet and to see to see him struggling

was really hard it was hard you know I hear him struggling yeah he's like a three legged dog was really hard. It was hard. You know, I hear him. Yeah. Struggling. Yeah. He's like a three-legged dog. Oh, my God. It's so sad.

It's like that's so sad. He can't. He's struggling to play Fruit Ninja. He can't even get up. Would you do another season, Hayley? Would I do another season? Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.

I think that we have got ourselves a couple of core members here for this new rendition of OG. I think Frasier's going to stick along. I think Hayley and Frasier need to be a duo in seasons moving forward. Your guys' energy is fantastic. I think that we're rounding out a little,

a core cast here. I think we're going to need to have Haley's boyfriend kidnapped. I think we probably do need to have Haley's boyfriend kidnapped and not kidnapped right before the show because that will ruin Haley's mental state. She'll be worried about where he is.

But if we kidnap him, he's gone for, let's say, four, five, six months. Then Haley will start to say goodbye to the idea of being with him and then we can do it. All right, so Haley, you got some super fans in our group.

This one creepy bastard, his name's Christopher DeMello. He is such a fan. He wants you to say this phrase, I think for his own like weird- And you don't need to say this. But I think this is like a internet thing. What is he wants her to say?

Do you know Emma Darcy? Negroni. I actually don't know who this person is. Okay. She's Raynira Targaryen. She's Negroni Spagliato with Prosecco. Have you seen this? Have you seen this?

Negroni? I wish I had, but no. All right, so it took the internet by storm because a host asked her what she likes to drink. You know what, Christopher DeMello, no. We're not going to make our guests do a... For your sick sexual gratification. What is it called, a hat and pony trick?

What is it called, the pony and hat trick? What is he... He wanted to say the phrase Negroni's bag we're moving on christopher de mella you can't demand guests dance for your sexual deviancy okay it's not okay yeah maybe maybe not a couple more i love that we've turned him into a sexual deviant it's not a sexual uh thing at all uh all. All right, so we have to wrap the show up with like one or two more questions. Okay, okay.

Let's see here. Mandy Pearson wants to marry, F, kill Tony, Ross, and Ben. And you don't have to answer that question, but we'd like you to. Why don't you marry, what, and kill? You marry, you have sex with one of them, and you have to kill one of them. Yeah, you have to murder one of them, have sex with one of them,

but then marry one of them. Ross, Tony, Ben. Yeah. Oh, kill Ross. I love him to bits. I really do. Well, you just killed him. Marry Tony.

Marry Tony. Tag then. I really do. Well, you just killed him. Marry Tony. Yeah, yeah. Okay, thanks for that question, fan. No, the good news... The good news about killing Ross. Ross has, much like Genghis Khan, he's sowed his oats all over the world already, so he will live on. He will.

Yeah, it's fine. All right, last one. Well, I think that's it. What do you have in the future? What are you looking at? Are you going to be continuing working in the yachting business and also have a foot here on land doing esthetician work? Yeah, I'm going to actually do a little bit of both. So I've just got some clinic days in London confirmed for my business, which is fantastic. So it means that I'll be working in London. I've also just begun acting classes. Amazing. Which is really fun. We have a lot of listeners in the UK why don't you

plug your stuff where do people follow you on the interwebs and what's your business called and what's another thing you want to plug and if you don't have another thing then don't plug it but tell people all about yourself I love that you just don't take a breath it's amazing

it all just flows so my business is called Classin Aesthetics. So please, yeah, give that a follow. How do you spell that? Because your British accent is making it a little, I don't know what you said. How would you say it? Classin, you'd say Classin Aesthetics.

C-L-A-S-S-E-N. Yeah, okay, class and To be fair, people would be sharing the same dialect as her, so they completely understood. Remember, this is in the UK. I don't know, though, man. She doesn't, I can't really, I haven't understood a single fucking

word she said the entire day to be quite honest. Oh, I didn't think you would. You probably got some good titles there, didn't you? Okay, and socials, where do people follow you Instagram I've got my personal and I've got my business page connected to that

just type in Hayley below deck Instagram I'll just be honest Hayley Hayley amazing Hayley we love you very much Instagram. Yeah, exactly. Haley DeSola Pinto. Amazing. Haley, we love you very much. You're fantastic

on the show. She is the sea witch. She does speak crystals, and unfortunately for her, people confide in her a lot. It's one of the That is unfortunate. It's such a curse, and I'm so sorry you have to deal with it, but I think the world is a better place for you. Thank you very, very much for much for joining us and yeah hopefully we can talk to you soon

thanks Hayley yeah I love that this has been fun thank you so much guys Thank you.