Another Below Deck Podcast - Sea Rat Recap: Things Hidden in Lee's Room | Below Deck S1 E3 w/ Sam Orme

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Pat and Dylan are joined by Sea Rat Sam to break down guests with cocaine, industrial engineering, the things they found in Lee's room, what the first season was like and more from Bravo's Below Deck. PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Yeah, you know what's great is as stews, we clean the whole boat. Well, that includes the captain's quarters, and we found, you know, there were some secrets hiding in his room. a bard another brand spank new episode war with china war with china um of another below deck podcast today is a very very special day today is not only a c rat interview but rather a kind of a companionship today it's a c rat recap um we haven't really done that we've tried it i think we did it one time with gabby who got absolutely shit face that i think the fans were really pissed off at it. But as we're going back into the vault, we have been exploring season one of Below Deck OG. And joining us today is one of the cast members of the Maiden

Voyage of Honor. None other than the engineer herself, Sam. Hi, Sam. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thanks for doing this. Happy to be. this is going to be fun because when you get to look back and sam i don't know if you've kept track of this this is the 10 year anniversary this month of the release of this season of below deck did you keep track of that sam uh it's been more than 10 years hasn't it well it debuted starting off pretty adversarial there sam that does not like to be corrected she it debuted it debuted in june of 2013 but she she was she debuted in june of 2013 but she may be recollecting that the filming was a year prior.

See, there's a lot of tension already. This is going to get yes. I don't think there's any tension. I think we got Pat playing the role of Adrian, and Sam is Sam. But Sam, we're going to kind of ask how this was throughout the episode recap. So I think we should just get into the first thing that happens, because we have to ask what it was like being aboard a vessel where the patrons were kicked off the boat for cocaine.

So that is... Yeah. You know, I was kind of removed from that whole happening. Yeah. I don't know where I was like down in the laundry room, probably. And Kat was up cleaning all the heads and found it. So, you know, I didn't really know what was going on until after the fact. And someone said, oh, the guests are leaving or the guests are getting kicked.

So, you know, is what it is. All right. So you can be on record now, finally giving some clarity to the rumors over the years. Did you guys, in fact, collectively have a mutiny once the guests were kicked off the boat saying basically your fears were that producers had created this drama, had planted the cocaine and you guys refused to film. Is that true? Can you explain what that was like?

What? You lost me. There was, no. There was no planting of any drugs that I'm aware of. Yeah. You guys didn't refuse to film after that. So none of you refused to film after those guys were kicked off the boat? No, absolutely not.

In fact, it was a welcomed break because we didn't have to serve people for the next week. We just got some downtime. Right. So it's nice. So play in the ocean. Who comes up with these stupid fucking rumors? It's an article, if you can believe it. Yeah.

All right. So let's dispel some rumors or bad info out on the internet about this season. Another rumor going around was that Adrian was not. supposed to be the chief stew she was in fact hired on the show to be a chef can you speak to that oh man you're making me you're making my memory really do some work here okay i do recall something about that i think that so i believe adrian was underqualified to be a cheap stew. I don't think she had held that position before and most of her previous work experience had been as a chef on board much, much smaller charter vessels. And so she really hired me

the chef or not. But I know she was underqualified to be the stew, or the chief stew. And I also know that she was in not even the sizzle reel, but like, I guess, in the production world, like when they were pitching this long before it ever became a reality was they put together these, I don't know, you guys would probably know what they're called, like little mini cuts of like what it could look like. Presentation or sizzle reel, yeah. Yeah, and so I think Adrian was part of that, and the intention was to only use her for that and then recast season one or the pilot season.

So I don't know how or when. they decided to bring her on as the chief stew. It's the most below-deck thing ever. They're just like, let's have somebody who has cooked on fishing boats be the chief stew of this super yacht. It'll make for great TV. Sam, how are you and Adrian doing today? Are you guys fast friends?

Do you guys still talk? Oh, besties. Yeah. It's nice to know that a decade can't heal old wounds. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, definitely. That's a full sarcasm. I have no idea how she is or where she is. No clue.

Yeah, no, of course. All right, a few more questions, if you don't mind, before we get started and start getting into the episode. And then, of course, we'll pepper in questions from there. What was it like? Because this was, in my memory, an instant hit for Bravo. Did you experience, and like, now Bravo, you've seen what happened with the housewives and, you know,

the Instagram followings and everybody's making, hay out of being on, you know, a couple seasons of whatever Bravo offering. What was it like at the time of the airing for you personally? It was pretty wild. Yeah. I mean, we had no clue. I don't even think when we were filming that it was, that we were convinced it was going to be on Bravo.

Because it was such a pilot season and they were like, oh, yeah, we're pitching this to Bravo or Bravo is interesting. And then it wasn't until, like, the end of the episode, they flew somebody out to St. Martin from Bravo. And then we were like, oh, maybe this is going to be on Bravo. Like, I don't know. It was bizarre. So, yeah, when we, when it started airing, I guess a year later, at that point, I had moved to Los Angeles and, you know, would start to get recognized out and about. And it was just very surreal.

Where did you live in Los Angeles? I lived in Encino for a while. Ventura Boulevard. Hey, I am so sorry because we've not asked the most important question. Ever. And I think that, you know what? I think that it's hurt the podcast, quite frankly. Because we didn't ask the question.

Yeah, because we didn't ask the question. All right, here it is. Sam, how'd you get on the show? How'd you get on the show soon? so I was working at an engineering office and my mom actually sent me a Facebook link that it was just a really basic little flyer that would pop up on the side of Facebook this was like the whole Facebook interface doesn't even look like it does today yeah but it was a little flyer popped up and it just had like a picture of a Caribbean island and it said want to work on a yacht question mark and my mom used to work on yachts and so she thought well let me just send this over to my daughter who's miserable in her engineering career and so I clicked the link seeing what it is and the initial application was super short it wanted like your name your experience and a paragraph about

yourself and attach a photo and that was it and so I had no idea that it was like for a reality show, that it was going to be on Bravo, none of that. I submitted it like it was just this basic application and then like within a week I had a producer or a casting agent calling me wanting to set up a like an interview, a face-to-face or a, you know, like a Zoom interview. Because now it's such a different process. People are actually going to Yachty school to then kind of jump onto this show. And I think that's kind of changed the show quite a bit. Yeah, well, speaking of you, no, I want to pause on that question. But thank you for letting us know how you got on the show. One last question. And I think it's, it's an important question

because, all right, so Sam, I watched the show when it originally aired. I loved it instantly. My cousin Christy was visiting for the summer. That's what we watched every night when it aired. We loved it. And I was absolutely confused when, Season 2 aired, and basically it was completely recast. Can you walk us through a little bit about how that happened? Because we're only on episode 3 of the season. I love this season. It's just the way it's shot, it's beautiful, the casting was perfect.

What was it like when you found out you wouldn't be returning, or perhaps you didn't even want to return? I probably would have returned for a second season. I just didn't get invited. I don't know. I think that it has a lot to do with storylines and character development and things like that. And if they feel that they got like, okay, so I really feel like the reason they cast me initially is because they wanted like a newbie, a party girl, someone who was single.

and when I shared the story about my sister that was like gold to them right they wanted to kind of exploit that unfortunately and so they got all that out of me that's all I had to give you know what I mean I am who I am I showed all my cards in season one and so I don't know I can't speak for the casting the casting people

and how they came about season two. But it is bizarre because I became pretty close friends with you know, Mark Cronin and Lisa and the whole gang. And you know, hung out together in Los Angeles

and so I was a little shocked too that I didn't get picked up for a season two. It's a tough business kid. You were never friends with them. They were using you. Yes. And also, by the way, your story nowadays people just show up in the expectation is just get blackout drunk and bang your coworker yeah yeah exactly well okay so let's jump in to the next part of the episode it

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great person had quite a bit of a drinking problem at the stage of her life uh was trying to fuck C.J. in the bathroom. Now, C.J. has a little convo with you after Cat, I think, falls over somewhere. And he puts you at ease by saying, Sam, don't worry, I'm not into fake tits. Now, were you, how is C. What's your, your read on C.J. as a person having spent an entire season with him. Is he a bit of a gross coxman? Are you guys still friendly? What's his, what's his beat?

Oh, man. Um, I mean, I said this in the reunion. Um, I never had feelings for CJ. Yeah. I was never attracted to him.

I know that the season portrays me being into him. I know they said, like, there were clips of me saying that CJ was hot, but if you notice, I didn't say CJ's hot. I just said he's hot. And so it was like this Franken clip of me talking about something that they piece together to make it look like I was talking about CJ. I say a good dude. I would absolutely never be romantic interesting editing. Now, just to set the scene here, this is your first night out, which has now become a major trope of the show. You guys work very hard, and now it's time to make bad decisions and show up at tourist destinations where cruise ships drop off

people at these night spots that they think Petty might be there because they're sparklers and overpriced vodka. Right. So, you and Kat, it is made to look like you guys are fighting over CJ. At some point, Cat goes and hangs out, I think she sits on deckhand Dave's Dick. And you cozy up next to him. And I think per cat, she gives advice that you always need to have sex with the person that you're sharing quarters with. Very much like a shop teacher would explain how to use a bandsaw. It's just a matter of factly. Right. But, all right, so I love how that's established very out of the gate that she wasn't into CJ. I don't think, by the way, that they have different, are they still doing different sexes in the same? I,

I think it's rather frowned upon, depending on the vessel. Captain Sandy Yon won't have a second of it. That's right. She just won't have a second of it. That is so odd that they did that back then. Well, we get back to the boat. Kate's tits are out and Kate's tits are out somehow. So, yeah, Kat, sorry, excuse me.

I had helmet nachos last night, Sam. I'm a little ill right now. So we have our first issue the next morning of the episode. We've already had 15 issues. with Sam and Adrian, but this is where you two kind of flare up at one another for the first time this episode. Now, Kat mentions that it's just you two were oil and water. You are not destined to work with one another well. Now, Adrian is an overcompensating monster, but I do have to say, Sam, and I know that you've likely grown, but you were a real piece of work back

then, too. I mean, you were quite the dick to her, but she was quite the dick to you. So this was not ever going to be a thing. What are we not seeing on camera that cause the rub? You know, once you lose respect for somebody, it's just really hard to dig your way out of that, for her to dig her way to that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And so it had been like weeks of just, I just couldn't with her. I just yeah Sam I get where you're coming from because there's this this slippery thing with that kind of management especially if it's completely incompetent and underqualified so what that cameras there and cameras there so what that person should be is humble team oriented and not hierarchically focused but when you have somebody who's hierarchically focused it's not just that you need to do your job it's that you need to pay respect to her position while going throughout the duty. It's like part of your job is to, you know, kind of kowtow to the fact that she is above you. And when she is as incompetent and rude as she is, that adds to the yuckiness of this relationship. And I believe it was brought up in the episode. Adrian is always on. The upper management hierarchy is never, there's never an off button it's always there is would you agree with that yeah wholeheartedly so so yeah go ahead sam like i knew that after a few weeks of filming like the

producers were eating it up right and and i knew that essentially she wasn't my boss right like in the in the show sure she was my boss but in real life the production company was my boss they were the ones who were paying me to be there and keeping me there adrian couldn't actually fire me so i didn't i didn't really have to uh report to adrian i was reporting to the production company and the production company was eating it up right right right right so yeah there was plenty of job security and the nastiness between you two. Now, you bring up the fact that you didn't get a degree in industrial engineering to be treated like this. Now, I want to talk about the degree in industrial engineering because this is just insane. You are talking about how you

understand differential equations in this very, very complicated math, yet you found yourself in what sounded like an office space kind of nightmare, so soul-crushing that your mother sent you a maybe take a whim on working in the Caribbean somewhere. Like, what is going on? Why so much sweat equity poured into academia to be shaving CJ's back? Now, I don't mean to frame that as like a drop, but it's quite a shift. Well, she explains it in the show, Dylan, she'll explain it. here she hated the mundane just right but were there no other pathways into engineering

why the switch i was young right i had only been like less than a year out of college so the job i was working was my first job out of college and i i took it based on you know what paid the most basically i hadn't explored my career yet i hadn't found my niche in engineering yeah so um you know I had a long commute to get to my job at the time, which didn't help anything. And, you know, sometimes you just want to escape. You want to be back to the Caribbean. And so it was just an opportunity. Plus, I had, you know, confidence that, okay, now I have this degree under my belt.

That's not going anywhere. So if I want to fuck off for a few months for the summer, I can always come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was her version of, why don't I just get a train pass and go stay in Europe for three months with my friends? It's a good one because you get notoriety and you get paid. Did you go back to that career path? I did. Yeah.

I went back to that same company, actually. I worked with them for a few more months before I moved to L.A. And then when I moved to L.A., I started working for a solar company in the valley. Was it better than being on? a yacht wiping up piss and dealing with mean drunks, yeah. It paid more.

Well, it's an experience. It's an experience. All right. So we get to Cooler Gate. This is, we talked about it. You guys feud over the cooler a bit. Cat wakes up, believe it or not, she's tired the next day. She is getting the shit beaten out of her by Adrian who doesn't care because the guests are coming.

And I, for one, was hoping that they did not have cocaine on them. They didn't. But they arguably had something worse, which was a scam in their bones. The person that boards this vessel, the second charter guest of the first season, is a hypnotist who charges people $45,000 a session. Who was this guy, Sam? This guy was a quack and a charlatan. I mean, we saw him perform hypnosis a couple of times,

and it did not work. I've lived in Los Angeles, well, sorry, Sam. I've lived in Los Angeles for a number of years. This was a thing in that era. My God. And they were making lots of money, and I don't want to be cynical. but I think a lot of them were carin artists.

Sam, what were your thoughts? I cannot confirm or deny that anyone has ever paid that man $45,000 to hypnotize them. I think that's a line that someone fed Adrian when she said that. I don't know. Yeah, he seemed like a normal dude to me. I don't like, I don't know. He seemed like the voice on meditation. apps, but just before meditation apps and before recording.

In your memory, Sam, I had a trouble understanding who actually was paying for this particular charter. Was it the hypnotist or his ensemble of, I think, customers? Do you remember the makeup of who actually were you answering to when you were working for this charter? I have no idea. So they, the thing with. these people is the green juice. Now, we'll get to the green juice in a second.

CJ has a moment, though, where he pops his shirt off, right? Oh, I love that. CJ's got to pop that top off because Sam's been shaving his back. He's looking good. He's feeling good. And we get this hilarious thread this episode where CJ is like, you know, this is fucking way out of line. People telling me to be clothed while I work. Can you imagine if he worked it as like a door greeter at Walmart? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd be taste. It's like, I work here.

Okay, Todd. But you have your shirt off. Right, your nipples are out. It's completely inappropriate. What, who is this guy? What is his vibe, Sam? Is he just like a beach bum? I don't know how he didn't know that it was not appropriate to be half nude.

I again think that he like much of, much of the cast. myself included we're all underqualified to be there and I think that DJ had worked maybe on like you know a 30 foot sailboat as like a deck hand that wasn't really getting was you know doing a doing a I don't even know yeah some kind of day charters yeah he was getting paid in weed

exactly yeah he's used to shirtless and I don't know not a real upstart so the green juice thing comes up next yes and the green juice is really throwing a wrench into things

breakfast is not served for an hour and a half or two hours as the juices are taking up too much time Sam this was a point of this was an uh-oh moment for you and a point of contention between you and Adrienne now Adrian seems to

be belittling you in this moment telling you that you know not how to cut oranges properly and seems to think that you are incapable of making green juice. What was this, it sounds like you had been on the boat for a while before you guys started actually filming these episodes, but was this a straw that broke a camel's back or was the camel had had the camel already been mutilated on the ground at this point. I think the camel was a bag of bones, really. Right, right.

Yeah, no, just classic case of micromanaging. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. You're going to tell me that the orange that I'm putting into a juicer. I mean, it's getting juice. Yeah, yeah. The beauty of juicers is that your knife skills don't need to be that great

because it's going to be turning to pulp soon. So, not a big deal. Now, I deem something interesting out of this, which has been very early on, kind of taking almost like a labor union head line in the sand. Right, right. I don't touch anything that's not solid. Yeah, if it's a liquid, darling, I'm not making it, darling. Right.

Yeah. One question. So, Captain Lee, I know you don't follow the series. I think just briefly talking to you that you're no longer kind of, in the below-deck world. You've moved on with your life. Good for you. Captain Lee was handed his walking papers this past year,

after a decade of service. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember film... Pat hates guys. Yes. Do you remember filming with Captain Lee, and can you give a little insight? Because I've always thought that he was very heavily involved with production

and cared very much about how he was perceived on camera. Can you give us any insights to your experience, watching Captain Lee film? Yeah. So that last statement you made, I can confirm that. But I don't think he was as involved in the production until some of the subsequent seasons.

And season one, he was kind of just as confused and skeptical as the rest of us as like what was going to come of this, right? Right. He always knew he was a star, but he didn't know that he was going to. I don't know I'm watching what happens life

I think that in season one he was kind of he wasn't ready to be a star or he didn't know he was going to be a star he was just kind of being the just crumudgeon that he is and so

I don't know I think a star was born on season one yeah before you know it Bradley Cooper's hanging in the garage I think I used to at the start of the season I like captainly I was in his corner and by the end I had a pretty strong distaste for him

Wow Okay Because he was my boss or he was You know too strict running the ship or anything like that I just think he you know He lacked some integrity and, you know, he had some personal things going on that he covered up and, you know, hid from the cameras while everybody else was, you know, bearing it all. Should we press?

Was it about it? Was it about it? No. I think everybody, if they can, will be on a reality show and attempt to hide things. Right. And he was no different than that. Sure. But, yes, I hate his guts. After some conflict resolution between, you know, the interior, we move to the beach as we do,

and there is a storm coming. Now, they do edit in lightning that was pathetic, but there is a bit of a sitch. There is going to be rain coming down. And as is customary with below deck, they're just like, fuck it. And everyone drinks their green juice and they eat in torrential downstorm, yeah, a lot of rain, a lot of rain. $60,000 a day. Yeah, I know, but I love how I think it was the primary who said, how much can we pay?

I know, I hope it was a joke. How much can we pay to make the rain go away? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there is a price on that. So we get back to the boat, and we've got you, Sam, doing spinach. You're on spinach duty. And this is when Adrian comes in with another kind of haymaker off the top rope. She is telling you to drop spinach duty.

that you need to go do something else. Now, you guys get into a little bit of a tiff, but the thing I want to highlight here is C.J.'s confessional. He compares Adrian to Adolf Hitler? Yeah, he compares her to Adolf Hitler. That's a comparison that's made quite often. You know, he's one of the more famous baddies of human history. But then C.J. Gus Heddy, he does the Zich Kyle, too.

He throws a Zichael down. I was like, God damn, C.J. Sam called me before we recorded this. she was seeking out an episode. Certain episodes of this season have been pulled off. What format was it that you were looking for, Hulu? All of them. It's not available on Prime either.

Hulu and Prime and all of them. You can't get the dude, it's a dude, dude episode, which was former episode three. You cannot find it. Wow. Because I think you had surmised that there were too many slur, phobic slurs in the episode. There were, yeah, the entire episode was a transgender, one big transgender slur.

Yeah, it was about, um, it was about us going to a bar and one of the guys bringing home, uh, a transgender woman. And, um, didn't, didn't know that it was a transgender woman. And so it was, yeah. Oh, that's right. I saw that in the coming up. I hope we can find that on peacock, because that's going to be quite a time capsule down there. So right before dinner, Sam and Adrienne get into a little, another little, oh, another one. Another little tiff. Sam goes quite nuts on her here. I can't remember specifically what happened. So I'm inclined to move on.

What was this night time where basically she wasn't allowing Sam to understand her schedule to basically, when can I eat? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam, can you break down the game film on that? Oh, my gosh. I just wanted to be able to shower. Like, I mean, I'm not kidding. it like we were working like working like we had to be on like 20 hours a day yeah and and like you'd have a few hours to sleep and god forbid you wanted to maintain a little personal hygiene you

had to that had to cut into your sleep schedule right and in case you hour it was absurd yeah yeah yeah this is one of the drawbacks of corporate uh the corporate machine is uh they're mandated by labor laws to give you certain break times right not out of Let's see. Sure, you get to see the sun and there's water and beautiful people. Oh, I'm sorry. You threw up blood this morning. Get back to work.

All I'm saying is, like, if I was no longer serving the guests, I could have gone below DAC down into the crew mess, which is also where the laundry room was and, like, kicked off my shoes, theoretically, because we didn't have shoes on. Right. taking a shower and kind of turned off. And then I still could have, like, done laundry and stuff. I still could have been working. Yeah, I know.

But she wasn't allowing that time to, like, just exhale. One of the, one of the trickier things about being in higher up positions is managing people. Adrian couldn't, it didn't sound like Adrian could do the regular job, let alone the managing of people. That's where she really did not excel at. And to be fair to her, if you are not experienced in that, that can go south with a lot of people. Give them a little power, and most people can't handle it. Yeah. And you do have to like remind yourself, part of my responsibility is taking care of the people

who are working for me because, no, people cannot just go days without bathing. And, you know, you guys are, you're all drinking so much. I mean, just the vodka coming off of cat. I mean, you have to wash that shit off. So let's see what this $45,000 is worth. I believe they hypnotize, he hypnotizes his entire group. And my favorite, yeah, his entire flock now. My favorite hypnotism moment was when he hypnotizes Adrian later in the episode.

We'll skip past it just for the sake of talking about it right now. that was an odd sentence. But when he hypnotizes Adrian, he does this great, and obviously, spoiler alert, Sam, you can confirm or deny this, but did the hypnotism take? Oh, are you kidding? He does this amazing thing, which is kind of like, it's like signing a waiver before you get on like a really unsafe carnival ride. he goes he he wakes adrian up and he says now the tools i've given you you can choose to use them or not thanks obi so if this hypnotism didn't work it's your fault because i am a hypnotist

so i've done my job here this guy disgusts me he's just he's such a fucking fraud um yeah so so yeah sam go ahead because i only because i just rewatch this episode in that scene they show me like sitting on the floor in a rain jacket as if i was in the room watching it all happened right i was not there of course we you like we've been recapping reality tv for some time that is an obvious like i was watching the episode i was like okay well she definitely was not in the room um yeah because Adrian would have been freaking out if you were in the room. It would have just, it just didn't happen. Wow. Right. All right. So the crew heads to bed after a lovely dinner of crispy artichoke with

fillet and lemon. It was dinner, kind of. It was back when they didn't understand. They loved Chef Ben clearly from a production standpoint, giving him all the one-liners and no one going after him. Yet, they don't feature his food very early on. No, they do not. But we go to bed and And Adrian goes to get a little advice from Porcupine. Go ahead, Sam. Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah, Sonic the Hedgehog. He dated.

We cover a show called Vanderpump Rules. At the time of airing, he was dating Kristen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, wow. Well, he had beautiful eyebrows. But he just tells the cameras and not her that she's kind of a bitch. and I think that's why it's not working out. But we get to the next day,

there's an issue with running out of veggies and this is where Lee Leism's pretty hard and is like, you know, this is just completely unacceptable. And it's one of those things where you're like, Lee, these people are eating the amount of vegetation

of a silverback gorilla. I was going to say a gigantic omnivore, dinosaur. Right. So please fucking lay off. And would you like to know? what's unappropriately, you walking around in your underwear with a female staff member in your room, you fucking pig. Well, Sam, Pat does not like Lee.

He reminded me of a football coach that beat me up when I was 14, and I, and so it triggers those memories. I hate Lee. He's a jerk. You said Pat doesn't like him? Pat does not like him. Yeah, me. I don't like him.

Pat does not like him. Yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah. know what's great is as stews we clean the whole boat well that includes the captain's quarters and we found

you know there were there were some secrets hiding in his in his room I'll leave it at that yeah we don't want to get you in trouble but that's a nice tease because I think we can think about what might be in there I think it's a double-sided dildo well it's something to do with

smut right something to do with what smut much sex it's probably porn or lotion he's beaten up

he's beaten up it wasn't it wasn't oh my gosh is it a is a fucking crack pipe what he's talking about we don't want to get you in trouble

all right we don't want to get you in trouble so we'll ask you off air so she okay so Adrian's off the boat but it turns out that she might have needed to be there for the coffee machine because Sam and Kat do not do the hottest

job of making lattes. The good news. Hang on. Don't throw it in there. It was Kat making the lattes. I knew that espresso machine like the back of my hand. What happened with the espresso machine? Did she put the beans where the water is supposed to go?

Yes, she did. Okay. Well, now, because you have to remember, Adrienne was put in charge. I'm sorry, Sam put, Adrian puts Sam in charge of the Catalina wine mixer. Right.

Kind of. She tells her, she's entrusted her to blend vegetables. The coffee machine's a whole different animal. The coffee machine is, is Kat's responsibility. So Adrian gets back.

She gets the hypnosis that doesn't work. And then we get to CJ taking off his shirt again. Now, he is told by an engineer, um, dude, you have to stop taking your shirt off. And CJ,

CJ is like, you know what, I can't fucking, I can't fucking do this shit, man. This is fucking ridiculous. And this is when we move on to you and Adrian having a little sit down. Now, this seems like half measures from both of you. It's a chicken or the egg thing. I think she comes, she sits down with you and immediately presents this air of like, I have to do this. seems very disingenuous and it seems like

you're picking up on it instantaneously. But do you recall how this went? I think with that conversation was one of those production, you know, they coordinated it. They were like,

this is, this needs to come to a head. We need like some development on this. We can't just go, you know, the full season with YouTube being consenting to each other. Why don't we sit down and talk about it

and try to get a little more. content out of it. So that's, I think, where that conversation came from. I love talking, I love talking to people from past seasons because they're not shackled by Bravo. No, they can speak openly. Yeah, they, current cast members are always like, no, there is no meddling. There is no meddling at all. It's just they capture what they capture. And it's like, you're lying. How could you possibly say this? I have a note here, attempt to squash the beef between Adrian and Sam. And that's clearly production intervention trying to do that. This was you trying to get clarity on your breaks, by the way.

I think it was at the heart of this conversation. Yeah, and just the fallout of her being awful to you for some time. But we move on to the guest departing the boat, and we're wrapping up here. The charter guest says that he had a great time and that he wants to express his gratitude in a physical way, which is a just a bizarre thing. sentence. Just a bizarre fucking thing to say to somebody. Well, we've seen when we watch Nexium, that guy who just is going to do like 300

years in jail, we walk him talk in circles and say things. Right, right. That are confusing, but most dumb people will fall into the trap of like, oh, I think he's smarter than me because I don't understand what he just said. Well, most of us didn't either. Well, we wrap up the episode with a pretty sizable tip, Pat. 15 grand, which is now a lot more than that than 15K. I thought that was a pretty good.

tip for one day it was only a one day charter right sam no three days oh that's a little light that's a little light that's a little light but ten years ago i don't know adjusted for inflation i don't know i mean it's still not not the greatest tip but we end the episode with lee well cj on the boat hitting on sam this is where they're trying to create that romance between the two of them and then we cut to lee calling porcupine up and adrian to basically give a little feedback yeah so lee calls porcupine and adrian up and says you guys are doing a shit job, but obviously I think you're doing excellently. And this is the kind of you know, management under Lee that gets a little confusing. Do we have any final questions for Sam? Well, I don't think we need to have any final questions because Sam, we got like nine episodes

left. We'd love to have you back. This was the funest time I've had podcasting in a while. Would you come back and recap some episodes with us? We have more questions for you. They're going to, they're going to crop up as the season goes. sure amazing that sounds like a no yeah it did sound like a no it's it I'm you tickled come back okay great well thank you for joining us we really really appreciate it anything to plug do you want people to donate to anything find you anywhere let the people know well not exactly I'm on Instagram that's about it what's your handle uh Sammy Orm S-A-M-I-O-R-M-E-R-M-A-S-A-M-A-O-R-M-E

Go find her. Go find her on Instagram and stalk her photos. Thank you very much for joining us. We'll talk to you again soon. Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks, Sam. This was really fun. Sure. Have a good weekend. Happy Father's Day. No.