Another Below Deck Podcast - Slade's Third Housewife | RHOC S19 Reunion Pt. 2

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Dylan, Ruby and Pat are back to break down texts, hair, working out, golf boi, the spicy asian and more from Bravo's RHOC.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Dylan, despite what he may be just playing for the last four to eight minutes, is literate and speaks fluent English. And I want, because you make so much fun of me and Pat, your inability to speak today is, it's high. You can't do words and that's okay. Yeah, I told Pat, I think I'm coming down with something. I have a really bad headache. And I got into a fight on the 101. He almost punched someone. I almost got into a fight on the 101. And I'm just really exhausted and tired. And my daughter just will not stop waking up at 350. She just won't stop. It's just what time she gets up at now. So, um, I want to call this part. And I just say the fact that I'm even here speaking these bad bad words is William Wallace type of show. It's a, it's a tribute to you

and your professionalism. Just like me last week when I did three shows back to back, two of them blacked out. And you killed it. Hi, hello, and welcome to another brand spanking new episode of Bad TV. I'm Dylan. That is Pat. Permission to come aboard. And that is Ruby. Hi, Jill.

Hi, Pat. How are you? Ruby is calling in from Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. This girl goes here, there, and everywhere. We are here to talk about the real housewives of Orange County. I'm here to say that when I saw the tease of Golf Boy, Katie, and Jen, I knew that I was going to have no idea what was going on.

When the three of the, when Jen and Katie or Katie and anybody go after one another, the conversation devolves into a sludge of nonsense that is indecipherable. before we get into it go to patreon.com slash another podcast network to listen to our breakdown of real housewives of salt lake a coherent narratively sound rich franchise that is carrying bravo's housewives legacy on its back it's going to need cupping it's going to need acupuncture and it's going to need physical therapy because it's just delivering so go to patreon.com slash another podcast network for that um let's get into our tits ruby what did you think about the episode okay this should have been a two episode reunion which is never going to happen it's o c no can i tell you something as someone who's rewatching the seasons we did have one i believe it was the dr jen and her husband rine not ryan Ryan? Rine like the rine? Yes. Like an orange rhine. He was a grown man who walked around with a small chihuahua named Mr. Puppers and didn't make eye contact with his wife. They did two parts of that reunion. I believe it was that season. This we have we have guts here. We don't have four or three installments of guts. And so there were too many sections here today without guts. also I want to write a letter to Andy personally to say thank you for walking me

through that maestro's maestro's fucking that that was a disaster to follow I'm still not entirely sure yeah I want to thank him for his attempt at deciphering what took place at that dinner although still I'm confused as hell as it appears Dylan is as well yeah sure it's a little bit like somebody laying out kind of the rules of a congressional hearing and then having it just evolve into a screaming match, which is why C-SPAN is actually kind of lit sometimes. Sorry. And it's like, again, it's not even political. It's just fun because the rules aren't there. And this is what the rules were today. At one point, I believe he had to say, everyone's screaming over each other. Like, can we please, you know, reel it in. I would say, I'm excited for next week to see them all

watch the reveal of Tamara being awful and being a little demon Tammy that she is. And I would give this 74, like, relatively cute, normal natural tits. Okay. I have the floor. I do want to start off my tits by talking about golf boy, Matt. When I think about sketchy Katie, I find myself searching for who would make a perfect partner for her? And she has found her perfect partner, and that is Golf Boy Matt. And Boy is spelled with an eye, not a Y.

That's right. Yeah. They are perfect for each other. You don't really realize that when you first see them together, but having seen him at this reunion and how he behaved, him and that's spicy Asian. Yeah, golf boy and his spicy Asian. Are perfect for one another. They're both scumbags. Yeah.

I cannot wait for the next episode. I disagree with both of you. this in rare occasions does uh earn itself a third episode i could watch matt argue on that dais all day long it's so crazy it's going to get good because jen is going to then bring up in this next episode they didn't show it in the tease i don't know if she will you don't think she's going to go did you call my quote-unquote if they fiance's business partner's wife to ask if ryan was i don't think it was a telephone call i think that she if if i'm recall correct like i i think she went to them dropping him off to go to prison really and then the phone call was informing jen of what had taken

place so um i believe jen will try to bring it up and it'll go something like this um katy did you not did you not go up okay i'm if you're going to talk over me i'm not going to talk then and that'll be her bringing up yeah like i i i i think that Jen and listen we got to wait for the episode and we got a lot to talk about with this episode but um I think Jen may try to Eragorn this thing and be like that well this is actually too much but she did a good job because like no no no no all right but she did share this information with Shannon Bador while Shannon was chomping down on some chopped up chicken a bag of chicken yeah now uh this is what I will say

at this point in the reunion there is no need to have Heather Debrough sitting on that couch there is no need to have Shannon Bador sitting on that couch Shannon Bador added nothing to this season I want to thank her for her season a better part of Zaney I don't need that that annoys me I want to thank her sorry Ruby she was in fact Zany no that was her part this she she played the part of Zany character very well but Pat doesn't need it and he doesn't want it I don't want it because it makes me feel sad for her she's a sad old woman as my mother-in-law often refers to women that are sad she's she's a young old though oh okay yeah sure um she gave us some of she's a young old some great how old is shannon 69 nope probably 508 six oh ouch she she she's she's a young

woman i'm sorry i didn't announce that i'm the new segment that people love it's the gay corner yeah and the gay corner also called uh catty patty which i transform into a gay man in which i'm allowed to comment on how women look their weight yeah uh what they're wearing their fashion and for some reason uh i'm allowed to get away with it because i'm a gay man well so so pat the other night um called me he had just had a crazy night in beverly hills um and he'd suck this guy off and uh called me and he was like believe how disgusting that old bitch Anabador is booze. He said booze does not

do wonders for aging. No, no. And I was like, I told her to get her, she should have get her money back from that golden door because I think she's, it's like she's aging while she's there.

I was like, is this Pat or gay Pat? And I said it was Catty Patty. It was catty. It was catty. It was so sorry. I don't know that that was, that worked.

I think it was. Disagree. Well, okay, yeah. Shannon is 60. one. I'm sorry. Well, I want to thank her for her service. She gave us some great years of letting us watch her horrible life choices and horrible dating life. And that was all great. But she's moved on past that now. And now she's just a sad old drunk. She needs to go. And Heather Debrough, I don't know how many seasons I can just watch her wonderful, perfect life with all their

properties. Anyway, Shannon Bador, she better. If Jen cannot muster up the energy to call call Katie out on doing this. Shannon Bador must because it's important to say, Katie, did you go meet this person? By the way, Katie, you are not good at this. You should have had a friend of yours pretend to be from production. Yeah. And go to this person.

Right. Going to her and showing yourself, you're obviously, if this doesn't work out, it's going to get back to Jen, you idiot. Yeah. All right, zero tits. Okay, zero tits. I would give it five tits. There was a lot of good.

And again, the Gretchen, naked-wasted, Jen, Katie, Tamara, Katz cradle is something that just cannot be untangled because to untangle it would mean to put earnest effort into doing so. And I don't think that's anything that anyone has. Nope, not here. I mean, literally not, not one person. Maybe Kiki Meneg. Who has a podcast, not a blog. so let's let's jump into it there was one really funny part how it starts

at the beginning of the episode Gretchen and Tamara are just screaming at each other and he's like hey let's um hey ladies ladies let's put a pin in this because you guys are going to like pull each other's hair later in the episode we can get to that let's focus on another subject let's get to the fatty photo

well before we get before we get to the fatty photo we the end of last week was tamara remaining calm and um kind of presenting the defense of her being um just a vile bitch who constantly digs dirt up on people now um she goes back to this this she kind is it says it numerous times throughout this episode and a half you know kind of named them right so you're accusing me of digging dirt up on people just give me one example which is like an overconfidence that melts wings right so um her her defense of the the bass lake incident or gretchen cheating on her husband is that her and vicky both had brought it up as though there is some loophole that tamara has stumbled upon wherein if she is in

coercion with another person that only counts as a half Off a point. Right, right, right. So Tamara remains calm, and then we move on to Jen's disgusting fat photo. Okay. So we roll a package first on Jen's journey this season, and it begins with her in a wedding bikini. And Jen is mortified by this.

I think that she really is kind of, I mean, Ruby, I don't know if I'm inventing this, but I think that she has the ick when it comes to her, quote unquote, love and excitement to get married to Ryan on display this season. I think she's embarrassed by it. I think that she is coming to terms with the situation that she's in. And naturally, it would cause anyone to develop a very serious ick for that man. So we talk about this disgusting. hatched by Tamara, where she brings up a photo of Jen and it doesn't look flattering. And Tamara in this package says that things don't go this deep when you really care about

somebody. It's really, really unbelievable to me. Tamara is in such a, just a spiral of hatred and nonsense that she, I don't think that she believes anything that she says ever really, ever one time. So I have a question. Ruby, regarding hair salons selling D-list celebrities, dead fried hair to thirsty stalkers, is that a thing that takes place? I do not think that that is if I don't think there's a market for it it's not very big

this was discussed I believe like last season maybe that Jen like jokingly like someone was like oh these are the extensions Tamara had and then Jen put them in her hair jokingly and that was that this entire thing is is Jen trying to become her no I think she's trying to become every archetype that every woman in Orange County is though right we we break this down like we go accusation by accusation and we wrap with Andy saying well you guys all look like femme bots so that's what's happening easily squashed and laughed right exactly but but also the at the end when Jen is talking to Tamara about when they're chatting about their relationship and she's like Tamara you brought up a rumor that I had an affair at your gym and that's just not true and Tamara

was like I had no proof of that and they should not have brought that up yeah so okay so There's, we come back from the package and Andy goes, so where are you guys at? And Jen says, I'm not really sure where we're at. And he goes, well, do you guys speak? No. Have you seen each other since filming? No. Okay. So I think we know where you're at. She looks to Tamara and she goes, you just don't like me. I think that's what's going on. No, Jen, that's not it. Tamara is a satanic elemental. This is just what she does to even the people that she loves, according to her. So at one point, Tamara accuses her of being thirsty for being on housewives. And being a phony, although she's the one who got her on the show.

This is like Dick Cheney accusing somebody else of being a war criminal. It's like the most unbelievable thing that Tamara would levy this at somebody. Do you think he's trying to sell Satan tanks right now? I told you I don't need that. Satan sounds like Lorne Michaels. I told you I don't need them. dick you might what do you say uh so we go accusation by accusation jen moved into a house next to her tamra to be like her no no did you live there no i had lived there in the past okay so no scratch that off of this uh jen went to her hair salon no incorrect she went to her

Jim to stalk her. No, she wanted to train and liked Ryan at the time. It was a mile from her house. I was a mile from the studio. So no. By the way, thank God someone was signing up for that Jim. I heard it went out of business. We round this out with you used my hair extensions. Also, we kind of, we shed some light on this. She held them up one time. It was a joke. And so no. Then Tamarat finishes by accusing Jen of always coming for her. To some observers, that would also be called calling you out on your bullshit. And then some filthy yucky yucky normie named Becky from North Dakota comes in

with a haymaker, accusing Tamara out of being an insecure bitch. Yeah. Well, we get to the yet another satanic accusation, which is Jen cheating on her husband more than once. And it's not that it's wrong in a lie. It's that Tamara is like more than like someone in Mossad or the CIA.

seems to always be in a position to hear secrets about another person. And it's like, oh, wow, you're fucking disgusting. Go ahead, Ruby. She just dwells in a realm that we don't even have access to. Like, she's not quite selling tanks yet, mainly because she's living. But we can't, she somehow is able to put on like a bridge troll hat and then just go into these cesspools of bullshit gossip. I don't know

where you get this from. And then she emerges and then she does things like this and that's our Tammy. Can I break down the game film here? So they're like kind of going back and forth and then Tamrat nonchalantly mentions that Jen banged a yoga instructor at her last studio. Yeah.

And then says, but it was a rumor, you know, so perhaps I shouldn't have said that. You can't teach an old Tamer rat new tricks. I love calling her Tammy. This is why Tammy is irredeemable. There is no coming back from this. No, no, no.

I want to back up for one second. Is Darth Vader redeemable? No. Not after he killed younglings. I brought this up on another podcast. If we had just kept it to the original trilogy, we could blame it all on the system. Emperor Palpatine, Darth Vader was kind of a weak follower, right? Yeah.

but then you see him anakin he's killing kids and actually a patron i corrected you it wasn't nine younglings it was a lot more it was a lot more thank you carlos oh i think there's a gun fight outside probably by the way by the way in any other city there was a uh a homeless guy that was naked that broke into a house that belonged to two girls the landlord came out he threw him on the ground broke both his legs at 80 years old the guy had a gun on him Shot the guy. Yeah. Killed him.

He came from an encampment that was filled with a bunch of drug addicts that had been there for weeks and multiple things. Yeah, I mean, well, when you get naked to do Bienese, you're really partying. Right. Yeah, yeah. You'd think that the very least the encampment would be gone the next day? No, no, no. Not Los Angeles.

No, we want people to have a good fucking time. There's nothing wrong with that. Don't be a fucking loser. Come to L.A., get high, take your clothes off, and let's play. All right. Yeah. All right. So, Jen.

No, no, no. I want it back up. Okay. HD is asked by Andy when she was shown that fatty photo by Tamrat. Why did she basically just disregard it as not truly coming from the dark reaches of Tamrat's soul to show it to him? That's Tammy. Yeah. And I had to pull out my dictionary for HD's explanation.

She used the word germane. Okay. That was fun. And do you know what Jermaine means? Jermaine means like, sorry, Jermaine means like it's in the, like, it, it, germane, well, it. Relevant to a subject under consideration. Yes, yes, yes.

It means relevant. It also means, um, just relevant is like literally just a synonym. No, no, no, it means relevant, but it also, it also means fast. no yeah nope oh germane is germane is relevant a b definition sub definition is actually super fast i think it's actually brother and i'm not kidding it is brother in latin is that true yeah well anyway word smith over here emily jumps in and because she's doing andy's work for him she goes hey tamrat what was up with that fatty phone and then tamrat says look i i can see it was

shady. I apologize. Then four and a half seconds later, that's when she said, hey, what's up with you banging your yoga instructor? Yeah. Yeah. Like literally does not miss a beat. What is what is with it with words? Like I'll know like what a word. I'll know like a word, but I don't, I couldn't tell you what the fuck it. Like I know the word in my bones, but I have no idea what the definition of it is. Really any word ever. You know, you two are probably the two smartest people. I know. But our former co-host, though, was the smartest person I ever knew at Words. Uh-huh.

Yeah. A little bit like Heather DeBrow. Okay. So let's get into the wedding date. Jen, do you have a wedding date? No. Follow up. Why?

Do you think they're going to get married ever? No, they're never going to get married. We get into. This spurs on, like, they all, like, fall over themselves. in support of this bullshit and they're like you know i i didn't get i was engaged i'm enjoying uh gretchen's like i've been enjoying being engaged for like 16 years it's the best gretchen and slayed the picture of a successful monogamy um well i was going to say and that's when they all like uh they go like uh oh they all start like throwing out like crazy things about

their marriages and stuff like uh stuff that's not true yeah uh let me break down the game film here I don't have truth serum or anything, and I can't read minds, but I can see through bullshit. Jen is not marrying Brian, ever. The last time Heather Burrough saw Terry's dick, it was when George Bush was still president. And if a reverse cowgirl is being done at the Simpsons House, Shane is the one who's on top. There you go. Okay. And would they have to be like butt to butt if he, right, if he was on top?

Is he putting his, is it like a squid kind of? I hadn't really thought that out. I just figured he'd be on top. He's on top. Yeah. Because she says how much he asked for it, you know. It was a, it was like Jen being like, I'm hot and in like my 40s now. And I worry that I'm going to get ugly and get fatty photo again in my 80s.

And is this going to fade? And all the women being like, no. No. Absolutely not. That's right. Except for the answer is yes. Yeah. And it's also like, like, I think of how, like, profound the sickness is to be like, oh, I'm worried that I'm going to be unattractive when I'm 80. Yep.

That's like being worried that you're not going to be fast when you're 80. I like how Emily gets her back. She's like, you're going to be fine. Don't worry about it. And then they do a cutback to her sitting across from her at a table and calling her a stupid bitch. Yeah. Yeah, it's friendship. And also, I'm sorry, to be fair. She's like, Jen, you have literal debts in Orange County. Like, why don't we sell the Rolex? And Jen's just like, no, I like my watch. I'm not going to sell my watch.

Yeah, no, I'm not going to sell my watch. And I have to do glam. Ruby is Jen cunning enough to be using Ryan for that house to raise her kids to the last one is out of the house? So I think in the last year, when she realized how fucked she was because her ex-husband is not going to step up in any way and she can't sue him or get anything from him, I think her wheels have started to turn a little. And I think she understands she may need him more than she wants, but also doesn't want to be legally tied to him. So let's push this marriage off. We'll keep giving him crazy blow jobs or whatever. I don't know what the fuck she does to him. And then her last

kid will go to college and maybe she leaves him for someone normal. I bet she when she starts making real money on this show, because I don't think she's losing her sponsor. like making you know a half a milly year or something like that and uh the kid the last one's a little bit older i think that's when she dumps his ass by the way uh she may be given him a blow job is she's not giving him that bad uh hair die job that's pretty bad it's pretty bad what she's he's going way too dark with the hair die okay uh takes one to no one all right so will and ryan met and will took full ownership and said thank you for taking my my children in A couple of things.

Has Ryan taken full ownership of anything? And also, are you concerned that your kids are with someone who's fairly hung up in a pretty serious money laundering scheme? Well, he cut a deal with the feds. Yeah. Okay. So, no, he's not concerned. Thank you, though.

So he has, Andy goes, that's so great to hear, has he made any alimony payments? And Jen says, yeah, actually, he did say that he was going to and that he did, but I haven't seen it. But Andy, it's not important. The important thing is the co-parenting. And while it is important that they progress and there are baby steps here, he hasn't paid alimony in four years. So, anyways.

And it's not just one kid, okay? So Tamara and Jen have a fake friendship. Meatball got mad about the brunch. It's so crazy to me that anyone would get mad about Shannon throwing. this brunch for Jen it's just like what well why is your radar always tuned to pick up the worst frequencies that's a well that's a great oh i like that that's a great way to put things but um they were mad because they thought she was they were she was trying to buy jens loyalty yeah yeah yeah well um we get to we get to meatball and bador and uh meatball says that she was concerned about

Shannon. She said it a couple times throughout the season. And Shannon is hurt by this because if she really cared about her, she would check in, which she doesn't. And Shannon says, that's okay because she's good. And she says, I'm accountable to me. Now, that's a phrase that can exist in two different states. I can see it being very powerful. And somebody who's kind of turned a corner and is now holding themselves accountable. They are the strictest judge in their life. I can also. Can I really quickly ask you,

Joe? Yeah. Do you think that's Shannon? Well, no, I also can hear Shannon blacked out at a bar saying, I'm accountable to me. Okay. Yep. Yep.

Yeah. I'm, and also, I'm proud of it. Right. Right. So, do you, do you guys remember, I can't even recall. what the situation was, but she emerged one episode, I believe, quite drunk, and she actually looked like a bog witch, like a witch that is a dog. That's when she's screaming, I'm accountable to me. That's her state. Right. So the women have to apologize for talking about, oh, Heather's

not good at comedy. And just a beautiful moment of poetic justice, if that's the right phrase. Andy is asked by Shannon Bador when she could piss. And Andy has to respond to that question in the middle of Heather talking about how she is hard done by because the people don't take her comedic talents seriously. And she goes, Andy, this is very important to me. Yes, I know, I know. That's just... Shannon needs take a leak. Yeah, and I was just going to kill myself. So I don't know. When you're done, we're going to... Okay, let's break, ladies. Let's break. And let's break.

This was they, Heather never getting the accolades. And to be fair, she desert, like she's legit. I, I agree. Well,

legit to the point where she's one of 25,000 people in this town that had a sitcom at some point. Hers was in 1999, just to be clear. What sitcom? I want to say it was called couples or something. It was like right around.

around like 99, when sitcoms were popping off. Yeah. I can look it up. What I'll say is that she's more accomplished in terms of like a career than any other woman. Like who does anyone, sorry if I'm miss speaking right now, but none, I, to my knowledge, nobody else is this decorated. Like she's, she was a working actress at one point.

Yeah. I didn't know that because Pat always frames her as some fucking loser who was just on Malibu country. one time. First off, I have a handful of friends that have done just their portfolios are equal to her and they're delivering packages for Amazon now. So if she had not married up like she did after that stint in, sure, I'll give it to her. It's just that work dries up and then you have to pivot. So well done to her. Okay. We've all had careers. Hers happen to be on TV. Well done. Thank you. But who gives a shit? All right. What's our sponsor? Our sponsor today is fact. Fall always feels like a reset between back to school,

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I think that this is, oh, yeah. He was outside of the soundstage. Heather Rose there, they're all in the golf carts. They're all going to drive off to some, like, shitty little room where they're fucking, they open up styrofoam containers with Zangoo chicken in there. And Andy's like, oh, I'm sorry, I got to go. Yeah, he did not want to sit down and make small talk with you. Well, I'm a little lost, but we come back and he says that the women were as well-rounded

as the oranges they hold, and they don't hold them. we've discussed this they don't hold the oranges anymore it's the mandela effect they're trying to take our away our ability to go in and out of things successfully oh wow right i think maybe it's like an office like you hold the office of the presidency but you don't hold it with your hands you know well i know but they don't hold the oranges anymore they used to hold the oranges they don't they don't they don't we see it two times a year if that but when they we do see it they're holding them right what you're trying to say is we don't see them doing the stand up anymore doing the little we you know i'm going to ask peat and the PR person why they don't

do that anymore what's going on oh i don't see them holding the oranges and delivering the lines i may be a bitch but it's because i love you you know that's that's that's tammy i have a higher power and it's with God. And Roberts higher than them. Okay. We get to lymphatic draining. Andy said it was wild. I just want to call something out right now.

Yes. Yes, please. Dylan, despite what he may be displaying for the last four to eight minutes, is literate and speaks fluent English. And I want, because you make so much fun of me and Pat, your inability to speak today is,

it's high. You can't do words and that's okay. Yeah, I told Pat, before we did a show, APS, you can get a Patreon. com slash another podcast network that um i think i'm coming down with something i have a really bad headache and i got into a fight on the 101 he almost punched someone i almost got into a fight on the 101 and i'm just really exhausted and tired and my daughter just will not stop waking up

at 350 it just she just won't stop it's just what time she gets up at now so um i want to call this part and i just say the fact that i'm even here speaking these bad bad words is william wallace type of show. It's a tribute to you and your professionalism. Just like me last week when I did three shows back to back, two of them blacked out. And you killed it. Thank you. All right. So we get to lymphatic draining. Andy goes, it was wild. It was not. It was not wild. Jen is not a fatty anymore. We see a picture of her bust and her abs. And it genuinely is quite impressive. I love how Tamrat jumped in for two things here at looking at the picture. I didn't look that good in that picture as well.

And by the way, her arms do look good. They look great. Yeah, Jen really takes it seriously because it's... Her house will be gone if she doesn't. Her main thing.

Yeah. So Shane didn't like Emily getting pulverized by thick gays. And we talk about cock rings with the gang. I believe Andy when he says he, I don't know what the cock ring does.

I don't know. yeah i don't think andy likes to discuss bed stuff no i don't think so either um but and nobody's gonna kink shame but you know i mean people throwing cock rings on it's like did we get to the oh yeah the dicks in the ears that was a real fun episode when those strippers were fucking tam rat yeah yeah um also uh early in the season when emily was uh riding that barrel and almost getting orgasm. Were you ever a fan of Howard Stern, Ruby? Of course.

Do you remember the error where he had a Sibian in studio? No. A Sibian is essentially a barrel that a female will sit on and Howard would control it and he'd give her an orgasm. Yeah. Those were. And this was a radio show? Yeah.

This was on serious. It was on serious. Yeah. So we get to this Shannon eating. chicken in a bag thing. And this is where Jen spills the beans on what is, I think, the single most nuts-o thing that's transpired this season, which is Katie going to the prison. Drop-off point. Drop-off point. And trying to get dirt on Ryan's co-worker. And by the way, suggesting that she may be able to get her on this reunion.

Right. Well, on the show. And I'm assuming had not even checked with producers if that was even something that would be in play. Of course not. It was a complete and total lie. And this is why, like, unfortunately, I know that we love sketchy Katie. She can't be on the show. She has to be on the show.

She can't be on the show. This is a bridge too far. She's too sketchy. These scumbags are such good TV because they're liars. And the fact that Matt showed up to defend. Are you talking about golf point? Golf points. And they're teamed up.

They're like Bonnie and Clyde, but way sketchier. I need them on my TVs. The issue is, and I mean, I mean this. Katie is sketchy, but she's a little bit too. It would be like if Heather DeBrow was this sketchy. It's like you're too, you need a little more vapidness and less support from your partner who is a legitimate person. Like your life has to be in more shambles for this.

type of behavior to be okay, you know, if it comes from any of the other women, fine. Katie is like, she speaks pretty well, like she's pretty eloquent, like she's not a total, total, um, like dumb ass, you know, or she doesn't present herself as such. Ruby, we have legal cases where she didn't show up to court where she falsely accused a man of assaulting her. She's got fucking kids on every continent on the planet Earth being raised by men that she had sex with that she doesn't talk to. Let me rephrase. If earlier when we were like, is Jen going to keep Ryan around for is she stringing him

along? I think that Katie would have sought Ryan out to string him along for her kids versus Jen being like, oh, I didn't know. I didn't know I had to pay my bills. I just will stopped. And then I was like, what is water and power? Like, I don't think Katie's quite there. And I think that's why when she does these shady things with golf boy,

it's it just doesn't land well like it really doesn't read well you know well i'll say this i don't know how golf boy is making money now either i think they're leaning hard into trying to make this work for them to survive yeah okay well well golf boy uh heads out and we roll a package on um katy and jen and katy sketchiness uh overall uh it's spicy asian but we begin uh uh okay we get to this Gretchen's karate or Jen's karate chop video. Jen was in that too, I believe. Yeah, it was Gretchen and Jen. Now, I was very, very confused by this because, well, one, we asked the question, was this

targeted at Katie? And Tamara says, well, Katie is Asian. Okay. All right. I was confused because they just showed a still image of it. So I thought it was just a picture. And I was like, well, how could we be talking about this right now? But it was a video.

It's been removed from the internet. My God, do I want to see that video? If these ladies had to apply. I think they took it down. I don't think Jeff Zuckerberg took it down. No, no, no, no. Jen took it down. Mark's up.

If these ladies had to apply to college, that's all I'll say. Okay. So Katie said that she blamed Jen for this, which that's a Cadyism. What planet are we on? What are we even talking about? You may have, there may be truth that. I just genuinely am confused by what you're saying. Well, she said it was racist.

Right. And then Jen says, well, what's racist? And they go back and forth. But blaming Jen, like why, how do you blame somebody for being racist? That doesn't make any, am I, am I, do I, is my migraine just pounding away right now? This doesn't make any sense to me. Dylan, I, uh, by the way, I sent you an email. Do you mind opening that?

Okay. Okay. So Jen kind of pushes back at having to apologize, but Gretchen had apologized. And then Katie, uh, had sent an apology and Kate, uh, sorry, Gretchen had sent an apology. And Katie surmises that she read through it. She said that, uh, chat, GPT had created that apology. 100% hold on so it got my brain triggering because I'm like you know I don't want to write an apology and I wanted to see how far you could go with this chat GPT so I put it in Google I go what could

you ask chat GPT how ridiculous could you be so I said what if I um I got mad at my grandma okay and I punched my Grammy you know I punched my grandmother in the face okay so I said and I had to write it an apology so I asked chat GPT yeah this is what if I punched my grandmother in the face and I had to write an apology. This is the prompt. Can you write an apology for punching my grandmother? I'm really sorry to hear about the situation and I think an apology for something like this needs to be deeply heartfelt and sincere.

Here is a draft for your apology that you might consider. Dear Grandma, I want to start by saying how deeply sorry I am for what I did. There are no words that can fully express the regret I feel from. my actions but i hope this message can be the first step in making things right what you said did not warrant a punch what you said did not warrant a punch or any assault directed towards you in any way or that i apologize i love you patty What I didn't tell chat GPT, in my mind, she's dead. So she will never hear this apology.

Did you kill her? I didn't tell chat GPT that. Anyway, it's going to be fun. It's going to be fun with this AI stuff. Yeah, yeah, totally. Sam Altman got served on stage at some talk that he gave. That was funny. Love.

All right. So she accuses her of writing an AI apology, and you can tell that Gretchen got caught. she's like oh my god are you what seriously are you what there is so there is a moment in a real housewives of new jersey reunion where jacqueline the rita's daughter calls out teresa for not writing her own blog and she's like teresa you have a fucking ghostwriter and it's fine like we all do and teresa just won't she's like now i don't i don't and she she wants to die on this hill and then her daughter just says okay then what's napalm what's napalm what is it if you don't know what it is spell it and she obviously doesn't know what it is and she can't spell it because she has a ghostwriter

this moment reminded me of that what's napalm gretchen where she's like i oh my god i'm not even going to answer and it's like is it because you did use chat gptt probably gretchen is that why and it's exactly the way that gretchen would use chat gpti She would just take the things that it says and send it directly to Jen immediately. To Katie. To Katie immediately. It's also important to know Heather Dubrow has no clue what AI is. Go ahead, Ruby.

I was going to say, what are you just really quickly and then I'll drop it. What do you think her, like she opens chat. She's with Slate on the couch in their live, laugh, love, family God lives here. What did she type in? okay this is how it went she has to explain it like this is an information on the web okay so this is how it goes hey i it's gretchen from the real housewives of orange county i'm gonna be in this season coming up um but i haven't been on it in a while i posted a video of me doing kung fu noises with my two front teeth kind of pursed over my bottom lip and it was pretty pretty bad

And I turned my R's into L's and my L's into R's, you know, kind of Mickey Rooney kind of stuff. Can you help me apologize for that? I want to see that video. I agree. Okay. So let's get to Naked Wasted. Mastros. Mestros.

Mestros. Meester's. Mastros. So Naked Wasted. Andy just says this is confusing. The four of them, but breaks down. So the four of them go to Maastro's before Gretchen was on. And Gretchen said that the night of naked wasted, she was drugged.

And the six of them, yes. Katie and their husbands. So Gretchen said that that night she was drugged and went to the hospital. She said that she also said that she felt like she could have possibly gone to the hospital maybe. let me break down the aftermath of this in the in the very end of this Gretchen lied about it claiming that she misspoke that's bullshit Jen's memory is foggy about all of it well but that's the other confusing element of this where like they're going after Jen because Jen didn't know anything about

naked waste that she'd never heard about it but at dinner she was talking about it with a certain amount of empathy and authority but she still wasn't really sure what had transpired because she didn't see it and also the people that were involved or lying about what happened. So it's like, I'm on Shutter Island right now. I've got no fucking idea what's going on. I agree. And then Katie said she was told there had been a toxicology report.

Okay. Yeah. So then we get to Gretchen's quote unquote miscommunication in New Orleans where and she just flat out said that she was drugged. That's right. That's where she lied. And went to the hospital. So she misspoke.

She, Andy busts her on it and she says, I completely understand why people would be hurt by that. And Andy goes, sorry. Are you AI? You said it, though. You lied. I was wrapped up in, when you, Andy, when, Andy, when you were involved in something traumatic, the anxiety trapped in your body makes you say things that you otherwise wouldn't have said if they were false.

and because they're not true is why it's the anxiety of the moment is why I. So you lied. I misspoken. But Dore goes, I know exactly what she's talking about. It is watching, okay, the only thing more, and I don't know if we've gotten here, if we've passed it, I'm sorry, but the only thing more insane than Shannon trying to be like, no, I know what this is like when you're overwhelmed and you say, I, wasn't raped, I raped or something like that, was when Emily was like, can I just say, looking at Jen's disgusting, horrible, ugly, fat photo, I was so inspired by how fat and ugly she was because she was just not working out and not taking care of herself and just loving

her kids. And when I was doing that earlier this year, I was like, listen, I thought about what you said when I was calling you a fucking stupid bitch about this. And I was like, I just kept replaying that in my head. So thank you for that. And Jen was like, thank you for saying that. all right so we bring out golf boy who had uh clots and we talk about their talk with slade by the way coming in hot oh yeah hold the line is the accusation well matt matt i that's not what was said i'm not talking to you i'm talking to them he needs to talk to us but but here's the thing though matt gets really snippy and this is not a good group of people to get snippy with they're professional snifters.

So he gets pretty snippy with Gretchen and Gretchen goes, oh, okay. Well, listen, golf boy, didn't you sit down to Mastrow's and say the first time you ever laid eyes on Eddie? You thought he was a gay guy? And Matt pulls a Gretchen AI accusation, what? By the way, this is a professional sniper.

That's all we remember. Matt can yap on about how many minutes he talked on a phone with slavery. All you need to know, that's what Bravo people remember. You called Eddie Gay. Yeah. That's what we remember.

So Golf was attempting to get the story out. Hold the line, hold the line. Which really quickly, while we're holding space for this, do you believe to hold the line? Yeah, I probably do. We saw some of the texts.

I mean, the fact that Slade and him are going back and forth on this, and Katie and Gretchen are, I mean, colluding. It's dumb. Yeah. It's very dumb. You know, do I believe that two Komodo dragons could team up to take down a fucking, I'm going to come up with a better analogy? Yeah.

Right? Here's the thing. Yeah, maybe. This is how you know Matt's a sociopath, and this is where I really, really figured that Matt and Katie are perfect for each other. Because she lies without worrying about being called out on it, like even when the data and the facts, like, roll right against her. Matt, knowing that the reunion's coming up, might look at his phone records, and he's been saying, Slade and I talked for 43 minutes. you realize at some point they're going to pull out phone records

and Gretchen or Gretchen's going to go here producers, here's how long they talked and after all of that time and effort spent calling AT&T's general line and then saying I have a specific thing that I need and they go well that's billing in records

and you go can you get me to them and they go hi I genuinely don't know if I can't you call back four more times and eventually they say we'll send them to you via snail mail in two weeks well to be fair after all of that no one will fucking care well you can go online i was sued once so i actually would just i signed up for my online thing gave me all my records in my phone records oh really you can do that i always i always do a phone call i'm very scared of the portals i i am too uh so uh matt had claimed there were multiple phone calls by slade multiple text and they had talked for a certain duration.

He lied about the duration. It was actually 11 minutes. He lied about how many phone calls. It was one phone call, not multiple. So already's in trouble there. So, and then Katie, go ahead. I would say yes, but first of all, 11 minutes on the phone with Slade would be fucking four hours of your life

that you would never get back. Sure enough. That's a time. But why bloat the time? Because he doesn't get to bloat really anything. on the show. This is the only thing he gets to bloat, honestly. And I think he's convinced himself he must bloat in order to defend his wife, which just isn't true. And I don't know what this would help and not hurt. But I, this, I do believe, and can you clarify for me, this, they are alleging,

Matt is saying, Slade called me and basically said, this wasn't supposed to get out. Now Gretchen is going to come out and say, this didn't happen. I didn't go to the hospital. And Katie has to back her up on that that's what this conversation okay i believe 100% that he made that phone call i do yeah i do too yeah so what are we fighting about now we move on to sheena shay what once sheena shay is brought up my eyes are falling out of my butthole they've rolled back so hard i i i just i'm sorry i have no idea what's going on i did go to tictock for this so i guess and this is the the i i yes Apparently, some woman or came, someone came for it on Gretchen, or not Gretchen, on Tamara and Teddy's podcast on two T's in the pod, and said, Sheena was actually the one who told Kiki Monique that Gretchen went to the hospital. And it wasn't Katie.

So how is Sheena involved? because sheena and kiki are apparently pals and there's like a timeline that coincides with this nobody cares nobody gives a shit because golf boy said that eddie was gay golf boy said it was was gay and also said where is slade yours fourth housewife which was a fire line also incorrect she's just the third which is still bad the only thing that was more fire than that was her saying with more certainty more pride and more calmness than she's ever said anything in her life hand over her heart i'm the third housewife yeah yeah again still bad get in the comments let us know what you thought about the episode we will be back next week

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