Another Below Deck Podcast - Tamra Fake Quits the Show | RHOC S19 E6

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Ruby, Pat and Dylan are back to break down voodoo, turtles, crimes, donuts, love, Tamra fake quits the show and more from Bravo's RHOC.Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetworkhttps://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod

Tamara realizes that alcohol does not agree with her. She says, after one drink, I get really nasty. And I love the implication that when she's sober, she's a treat. Yeah, I was going to say, would you wasted when you showed that fatty photo? I don't think you were. I think you were. Are you talking about, when you say drink, are you talking about like Sprite? You mean liquid.

Oh, you're talking about any liquid. Hello, all you ladies and germs. We are here, and we are Dylan, and we are Pat, and we are Ruby, and we are bad TV. Great to be here. Hi, guys. How are you? There we go. We're really, really rolling this afternoon, and we're really, really here to talk about the Real Housewives of Orange County. We're really here to explore what New Orleans has to offer that being. kind of crazy white ladies doing voodoo off of Bourbon Street and we're here to talk about

roofies. You see that bin filled with plastic crocodiles? No, no. Next time I'm there, I'm going to pick up a couple. Oh, yeah, you got to do the things that New Orleans is, the things that they do best, right? So that means picking up plastic crocodiles. That means showing boobs. that means drinking hen grenades and also leaving a place if it doesn't align with your Christian values, okay?

I love OC, loathe the women mostly. I think we have a big Shannon Bador problem. But before I get into any of it, Pat, you had a lovely time watching Traders, which are covering a Patreon. did you not. Oh, yeah, yeah. So you guys have to head over to patreon.com slash another podcast network, especially people that listen to us that live in Australia. We're covering season one of Zatrattas, yeah, Australia. And having just watched the first episode, it's just regular people. It's not reality TV people. It's regular people. And I, uh, I love it because they're smarter than reality TV people. Sure. They have functioning frontal cortex brains or whatever.

whatever those things are. Well, frontal cortex brains. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They can reason and deliberate and use logic. I think it's lobe. That's the word you're looking for. That's what I meant. Frontial lobe.

Yep. I'm technically a reality TV star. You know, Neo-Cortex was the bad guy in all the Crash Bandicoot series. Is that right? Yes, he was essentially the Dr. Robotnik of Sonic, the two Crash Bandicoat. Right, ribs?

That's correct, Dylan. Wow. Well, anyway, you learn something new every day. So I love it. The second Crash Bandicoot was actually Neocortex strikes back or something like that. It was a big, big game for me and Ruby as children. Well, here's the thing. You need to give us your money, okay?

You got to help us out with Patreon, because I'm going to quit. I really am. Yeah. I'm leaving the show. I'm pretty sure Ruby and Dylan won't stick around after I leave, you know? No, I don't know. If Pat leaves, Ruby and I, I mean, we have plenty of stuff to talk about with our families in our waking lives.

Better things to do. Better things to do. I can't do seven shows a week and not feel like I'm being compensated. Right, right. Or listen, it's really about love. It's less about the compensation.

So you heard it here first. If you guys don't sign up for Patreon, Patrick's going to quit the show and it'll all last. Okay. You've been warned. Rub's any thoughts on that? No. You've been warned, so.

Yeah, we fully support him. So listen, O.C. How many tits do we give it? Let's go to Ruby. first. Okay. Okay. This felt like 2018 or a really good year. I don't know. You're talking about pre-pandemic. Yeah. I'm talking about PPOC and loved it. People were screaming at dinners over things that were like kind of important in quotes. Relative humor, like nothing was super, super dark. There's no abuse

or children with eating disorders this week, really. And I honestly, I adored it. I would give it. 81. Tits. Tits. Sorry. I hope that doesn't. And let's just move forward and not really ever forget

again that our rating system is tits. I just, maybe we should take another look at that rating system. I don't want to offend any newbies or people that might be coming in here and thinking that that is potentially insensitive or Patrick you have an entire show in front of you okay you will go much further than tits I'm almost sure of it it's true well okay how many tits is it i gave 81 pat but you can also say breast if you're so inclined or units of cc if you want to

be a fucking loser do you want to be a freaking prude loser you go ahead and say whatever you want do you want to go next or me no you all right i'm going to say something that my co-host will not believe it's coming out of my mouth. Meatball was fantastic this episode. She really stepped up her game. Where have you been all my life, Meatball? You know? She referred to herself as a sausage.

I took that as a tip of the cap to old Patty here. She's like, no, no, I'm a sausage, not a meatball. No. You're a meatball. Okay. One of the best parts of this episode. And you're not referring to her sides when you say that. You're referring to her thought process.

A congealed ball of ground-up dead cow. She's a meat ball. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. The other part of this, and I think it, like most people wouldn't have noticed it, but I did. All right.

The best part of the episode was when Katie made that awkward face expression when Jen stated that Tamrat should raise her kids. Did you catch this? Tamrat's, uh, Tamrat, uh, one of her husbands only raised one of the kids. Yeah. Katie has had like 11 kids raised by other kids. other dudes. I love Pat's rhetorical questions. Did you catch this? Sorry. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Katie was like,

she didn't raise her daughter. She didn't raise her daughter. I got 11 kids running around the planet. Yeah. I got Thu and Guam. That's what Katie said. In Guam. Yeah, she got real, real mobster with it. She goes, I got Thoen Guam. I don't know what she's talking about. The one of the Arctic Circle is the one that she rarely talks to. Anyway, the other part that I loved about this show was Tamrat. And that's not out of a lack of love. It's just logistically very difficult to speak to people all the way up or down there. It's the time differences. Yeah.

So I want to talk about Tamrat here. Tamrat. She has a drug problem. She took his annex, clearly, allegedly. Yeah. And despite the fact saying earlier in the day that she was no longer going to be drinking at things. Not no longer, you will never see me. It was rather emphatic the claim she was making. And I do want to say that, you know, Tamara is a demon and we've, we've seen that the B.L's above horns are

somewhere underneath the weave. But tonight we saw them on her lips. I don't know if I'm just paying more attention. Ruby, did you see this how she had these little devil horns on her lips? Out of her lips? I don't know if it was because she recently got like lip injections or something, if that's what happens. But it was very, yeah, they moved from under. or the weave and they accidentally came down to her lips today. Maybe it was a side effect of massive amounts of Xanax. I'm not talking about Donald Trump's weave, the kind where he goes, no, no, no, no, trust me.

I know I've been speaking for 30 minutes, but it's the weave. I'm getting back to it. I'm talking about Tamara's fake air. And can I, can I tell you something? Because you needed to clarify that because at this dinner, she was weaving like a champion of weaves. I mean, my God. Yeah, Tamrat, I feel bad for her in a certain sense, and I'll tell you why.

You know, like, Dill, you know, I'm going to use a sports reference. You have a Hall of Fame or quarterback. Okay. What's that? Name them. Well, hold on. Let me finish. Name him.

Joe Namath. Great. Is he in the Hall of Fame? Yes. But he played two more seasons than he should have. and he kind of He drank a couple more cocktails than he should have too

And I think he heard his legacy a little bit He didn't a real person Yeah Joe Namath Yeah he played for the Jets Won a couple of Super Bowls And then he played for a couple other teams And uh Wasn't so good

Yeah and then he had that That uh Sideline interview with uh Do you ever see that? No what is it? We got to cover that on PMZ one day Joe Ameth is in I think a mink coat Oh yeah

And he's just blacked out of his mind and he's just leaning into this reporter going, hey, beautiful. This is during a game. No, no, no. No, this is years after he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, which you are actually very correct about, 1985, way to go.

Well, he played too many seasons, and to connect this with Tamrat, I believe she's past her prime. She cannot handle the onslaught anymore. She's not at her best. It's a little bit like, you know, really, really trying to stretch a buck at a buffet and then trying to go run a marathon. Like, Tamara has done too much to too many people to continue being able to do it.

And that was a bad analogy, but you get what I mean. You were using racehorse analogy? Yeah, racehorse goes to a buffet, Las Vegas or something. Basically, if you're going to show up to a race, why come in there with a bum, knee and then drink right like right you know the knives are going to be out for you why were you so confident that you had set the table so well that you would just walk right through this dinner everyone at this table despises you on a personal level we'll get to it butors like katie you've heard everybody at this table hey shana bador shana bador are you talking about katie right now

people's lives. Go ahead, Robs. I also would encourage everybody to believe that the worst of the worst that Katie has done, like the Debrough paparazzi things, the harmless, stupid, bad, dumb shit were in response to the fact that Heather Debrough researched when she was a homeless person and had to give one of her 11 children up to one of their 11 fathers. So it's like I'm not justifying. I'm just saying that yet people have hurt people. That's the equivalent of saying that like Dylan's newborn child hit me and then Floyd Mayweather hit me right and that they both hurt me and that's not fair well yeah that's not fair well you contacted my daughter so I to your point though Ruby you're

making a whole lot of sense right now we are really weaving tonight you know mr. president there's an issue at the border well let me tell you uh Abraham Lincoln he was gay okay we know that just pay I'll get back to no politics that was not not political that was not not political like, well, that was Heather Debrough and Tamara in the hallway after dinner. That's what that felt like when she was like, I just getting, she was like, I know. I'm just saying. She was like, then what do you want? I just, it was so, I'm sorry, it was beautiful.

I loved most of this. Ruby, sorry. Hunter tits. To use another sports reference, is Tamara, in fact, losing her fastball? I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I think so. And I think most of it, actually, Pat and I thought about this today, sorry for the crime. is not because of Teddy, although she'll say that it's because she's very, very sad

that she's coping poorly. I think it's because she knows that her marriage is on the rocks and this is not good. Right. Well, let's get into it. So we split up. 19 tits. Thank you. We split up.

And, you know, first off, I noticed that there was a lot of solo glam taking place at the top of this episode. I was thinking, you know, because we've pondered in episodes past of what kind of Pompeii-like excavation you would need to do to find Gretchen's real face. Good luck we die. Can Gretchen do her own?

She must be able to do her own glam because she hasn't been on the show for such a long time. well yeah she also had a makeup line i believe um but i i'm what i'm not sure of is that i don't know that these women can see very well anymore so it's like if you step back far enough it probably does look good well and also kind of the crusting over uh you know the entire face would kind of squeeze your eyes shut a little bit. Kind of like you've been caked in mud. Yes. But anyways, we split up.

Yeah, well, first off, when I think Big Easy, I think we can all agree. We think of a trolley ride and a dog parade. Okay. I don't think that comes to mind unless the dogs plan on showing their tits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And any questions you have, Ruby?

Yeah, yeah. Kind of like, how do dogs for pants? Yeah. that was actually Archie he was going to talk about how he was stuck in that room when Shannon Bador and Johnny Jansen had sex for the last time he wanted to escape yeah and we should say that New Orleans is a great place

but crawfish are disgusting it's almost impossible to devane them and once you get to a point of no return you're so fatigued and so hungry that you might as well just eat the shit string right and it's disgusting. Forget about it. Eat the shit string. Don't waste your time.

Eat the shit string because if you think about it, how bad can it possibly be? Or just eat around it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, treat the, the... Like it's a bone. Right.

Treat it like a turkey leg. Oh. Yeah. Disgusting. Oh, there's a... All right, so we split up. The troublemakers go with Emily. Shannon Storm's Bador has a really crummy attitude,

I have to say. I have to say it. She's been, She hasn't been on a cock since Johnny J and Archie was there. You don't have to take five minutes to pull up. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Archie! Archie! So the lady's joke about her riding the night previously, and we cut back to footage of Shannon Bidorni and Mechanical Bowl. Why are we not shown this? I know. Why are we not shown this kind of, you know, this antic halving from the evening prior?

You know, it's crazy. maybe because there was bad audio maybe Katie is excommunicated by Bador the second woman she's done this too in its many seasons and I'm close to saying it and you know I wrote this at the top of viewing the episode and Shannon did turn it on a little bit as we progress um through through our vacation episode is this our trip it can't be i think we'll have another one later okay yeah decide not to film. And I understand that Shannon's approaching a pretty big legacy mark on this show, but this is something that I would really appreciate Andy Cohen kind of pulling up his iPhone and wielding it, you know. Dylan, it's not like she didn't film with her on this episode. I take great

umbrage with what your... I take great umbrage with your umbrage directed at me. What she did was She put her on ice for part of the day, which is punishment. And I actually enjoy the uncomfortableness of that. Ruby, break the time. I agree with you both can't break the tie. Unbelievable. And I'll tell you why. It's because if she had done it for the whole episode, you can't do that.

Who are you? If this becomes a theme, I think people need to step in. yeah what i what i think it actually ended up doing was putting katy on the outs in a way that kind of created a lot of little yeah embers right right and to you i would say that it's important to remember and recall that um the swiss took nazi money too right and in this situation i would say that that is the the nazis oh okay oh okay cool calling me a nazi yeah yeah Fuck yeah. Okay.

We got a dangerous precedent here, okay? Shannon Bador can't get up from tables when she feels uncomfortable, not film with people, ice people out. She recovered a little bit tonight, but I see trouble in the water. You didn't enjoy her icing Jesus jugs out the entire season and essentially ending her stint on this franchise. It was good. You know what? I'll say, I'll say you're part of the Red School.

I wouldn't say you're a Nazi, but you're definitely a filthy country. Fine. Okay. I'll take it. I loved that it pissed Jesus Juggs off so much that she actually kicked two people out of her house that had nothing to do with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which speaks volumes about her. And Jesus Jugs is, you know, we talked about it. I can't remember when, but we talked about Durinda being the drunk, the biggest drunk in the history of the franchise. I think Alexis Polino is quite possibly the dumbest. That does not need to be pondered. That is a fact. I mean, Teresa and Gaddae, you could wonder, I mean, what the salami has done to her brain, but I don't think it's quite Jesus.

It's been written, Dylan. It should be etched in stone for the eternity for an attorney. And Ruby, break the tie. No, so Teresa, I would say she's got street smarts to a certain degree. Alexis Bellino is going to, no, there's no pondering. Yeah, yeah. What happened to Teresa's all that spray tan it, like, hurt her brain. Jesus jugs is a beamback.

Yeah, and I want to say this. Um, Katie does quite the little dance when she calls Matt and creates quite the false equivalency. Hmm. She says that, hey, all I did, you know, was record Shannon Bador, you know. Katie's a shady bitch. She's a sketchy beat. Yeah. It's not like you accidentally stepped on her fucking foot.

Right. Secretly recorded her and then back channeled that video to one of her enemies. Let's get to the trolley car. They talk about Tamara. Tamara wanting to sit down with Gretchen and Tamara not crying tears, actual real tears about Teddy. Gretchen says that the Bible is very, very clear. There's a commandment to forgive. I don't think there is a commandment to forgive, is there?

Go ahead, Ribs. I have no fucking idea, but if there is, I don't, the Bible things must, they must cease, right? Coming from these women, right? We must cease the Bible things because that's kind of silly. I think so, probably, right? Well, you know, there are stories that you can use. No, no, no, no. Please pump the brakes.

You communist. Pat. When you go to church and you turn around and you see Gretchen there, do you scream? Well, first off, she should ignite into fire upon entering the building. I think that, you know, I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm going to hold my tongue on that because what I was going to say is, is if you saw Gretchen anywhere, you would scream.

But I'm not going to say that, okay? Especially sitting right behind you. I mean, my God, baseball game, movie theater, church, whatever. Oh, my God. Movie theater would be the worst because she would be glowing in the dark, you know? Yeah. The thing about church is that I would hope that people venture to the pews for some kind of progress, growth, evolution, not a stagnation at such a fucking part.

working level seven level that these women exist in. It just, it drives me nuts. Anyways, the Bible is clear. You have to forgive. So they move on to get strawberry slushies with no alcohol in them and bignets from just a random stand somewhere. I mean, these women are not doing New Orleans, right? Yeah. Or are they? Boy, I really want to check out some of those square donuts because that's what a bignet is. It's a square donut. Yeah. Just because you change the shape of a donut does not mean you get to change what it is. And I will say that bignets are a little overrated. I think that the real beauty of a bignet is there's really no dessert in the confectionery world that has such an unbridled lack of control over powdered sugar. I mean,

You're like, I can't even imagine putting this much powder sugar. None of that you choke on. Go on a date and eat this and then tell us how you did it because you can't do like what happened to Emily is not, it's not an exception to any rule. It is, it is the norm. And what I will say is there something charming about eating this confectionary disaster of a bomb in New Orleans. Yeah, there really is. That's why.

Yeah, you get to Cafe Dumond and the humidity has. melted the frosting on the floor into a frosting that glazes across the entire cement floor and then you step in it, you have the chicory coffee and it's a really beautiful thing. But we get to where Teddy and Tamara sat at the actual Cafe Dumont and we talk about Teddy and it's sad and we've talked about it before. Yeah, it's a painful place for Tamrat. That was the last coffee shop that they sat in in New Orleans eight weeks ago. Mm-hmm.

I can see how that can bring back a lot of memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, but it wasn't the last coffee shot that she was with Teddy. Well, listen, like we've said, we've talked about it and it's sad. And Ruby, what's the name of that woman again? Jamil Pippa sits down with Megan Markle. Oh, I keep talking about this woman. No, that's her name.

It's Jamil Pippa, sits down with Megan Markle. Okay, so we get to this Jen raising kids conversation and I can I be candid? Can I be honest? Very confused. Have zero clue what the fuck she's talking about. Oh, so it actually was a question of whether Gina Meatball or Jen intended to get married. And they both gave answers that were kind of like, eh, I'm going to make a prediction here. And I make a lot of predictions and I'm mostly right. Actually, I think I'm like 100 for 100 here. Neither of these two knuckleheads are getting married.

No way. No way, so like. No way. Which is interesting because Jen is actively planning a wedding. Yeah, that was the weird thing about it. Last year. But I don't know if this is going to be too harsh and, you know, hazarding that, I mean, I guess even saying it is an indication that it might be.

You have to now, though, right? Jen cites concern over her children. That's never really stopped you in the past, has it? I mean, my God, you're, there are, you have a litter of human beings in your house, and you have $570,000 of debt, and you have no idea why you're not getting alimony payments. And Ryan, Ryan is your safe space and your night and shining armor. Jennifer, Jennifer, my dear, the fatty photo is not your concern. No, no, no.

It needs to be addressed, but don't spend too much time. No, definitely not. We get to rolling over, being rolled over. I'm confused how many pills these women are on. Tamara realizes. Well, just for clarity's sake, Sharon and Badour is hoping that Jen doesn't roll over on her and make nice with Tamrat and then go look at what she fucking does. where does that i i don't want to spend too much time on this but but am i being gaslight by

gaslit by the show where did this roll over this the start a couple episodes ago did it okay all right anyways tamer realizes that alcohol does not agree with her um she says after one drink i get really nasty and i love the implication that when she's sober she's a treat yeah i was going to say um would you wasted when you showed that fatty photo? I don't think you were. I think you were stone silver. When you say drink,

are you talking about like Sprite? You mean liquid. Oh, you're talking about any liquid. Well, you have to drink some form of liquid. So it looks like we're in a sticky situation. I want to be able to speak to people without alcohol, which is something that that's what Tamara said, which is a very,

very concerning sentence. There's also this pretty revolting expectation from Tamara to, For Shannon Bador to just calm down, just get over it. You know, Tamara's like, okay, so I called you a drunk for a year and mocked you at your lowest point you've ever been. Get over it. We're friends, though. And that's why I'm not drinking anymore.

Me, except for tonight. So we shop. Can I say his name? I'm thinking about it right now. I'm very disappointed in Shannon Bador. I'm disappointed in her because she had a. opportunity here to destroy this woman, destroy her. And she didn't. And that's, that's kind of a bummer. Shannon, get your swords out and start sharpening them now. Are you talking about at this

park or later on at dinner? Yeah, at the park. I'm a general, honestly, Pat, both in general. Patrick, shadow adore sheeds too often. She's always sheathing. Especially to the rat. And the rat is not, in this instance, she may be able to defeat the rat. Usually I would say sheath, Shannon, because you will lose. But this rat may be able to be defeated. Sheath. Why is sheathing? Unsheath, Bedore.

We want you up and on your feet. We shop for snow globes and we talk about the fatty picture. And I love how Jen's defending herself. She's like, it was probably at a time when I was taking Jen, you don't need to do that. fat in the picture you've never been fat so you're fine what are we doing don't feed it we get to the doggy party i would like to move on from this entire thing i'm sure that okay um well i love how they got invited there and uh they didn't bring their dogs they brought uh pictures black and white photos of their dogs that they carried in the parade this was this is one of these things

where you're like chat chp t is producing this show right i i loved also how um the producers were like we just want to point out that everyone here basically has designer dogs and Shannon makes her funny joke about Archie. And I thought to myself, Shannon, you, you took that designer dog from the four seasons and put him in an actual unsafe life-threatening environment. Right, right, right. Yep. So, and I don't even know what she meant. No, it was a bad joke and she reversed, rescued Archie. Right. Right. Wow. Yeah, that's a, that's just a stone cold fact. I mean, we have, we have the, the evidence. Dylan, when you, if you, okay, okay, here's this, here's a question. I adopt a child and then

I get in the car and I crash it because I'm drunk and the child is in the car. I don't get to say, whoopsie, I still get to keep my, my rescued child because I'm a danger to my child. Yeah, that's a reverse rescue. Right. So that would be like, uh, if you, if you were, uh, one of these Coast Guardmen, right? Somebody's drowning out there, crab fishermen or something. You, uh, you pick them up right you get them in the helicopter and you just kick them right out no no no you take that helicopter it's a rescue helicopter someone's eating ice cream with their family you pick them up okay and then you drop into like a like a bunch of sharks or yeah that's a reverse rescue because the ice cream was probably really nice that's right about to sit down for catan i'm gonna get a white claw

what's the press conference for that do we think the the coast card oh yeah um the um the um The general is like, you know, there's a lot of things in this business that, uh, this was a training accident. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, so, so this dog parade was dumb. The show is being written by ChachyPt 5.0, not the good one, but the bad one,

whatever that one is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so help. So help. Yeah. We get to the voodoo queen, Bloody Mary, that's charlatan. I don't want to be, uh, I don't want to sound like a wokester. or anything like that.

And we love the wokesters, right? We love everybody. I can't help but feel like this is a little bit of appropriation. Can white women do voodoo? I mean, my God. Like, what are we even? Fat women can. Okay.

Wow. And remember when you were talking about whether or not our rating system was going to offend? And I said, we had an entire show before us. So don't worry about it. Yeah, I wasn't worried. And it's for reasons like this. But I was sad when you do voodoo, you need to, you need to do voodoo like they do in the skeleton key when you go way, way, way the fuck out of the center of the city. And you're scared when you go inside.

And also everyone should watch that movie because it actually is get out before get out. Skeleton keys fire. Wow. I had no idea that that's where that movie goes. I was going to watch that next week. Well, now you know. Are you lying? Who's the lead in that?

Is it Kate? Morgan Freeman. Kate Hudson. Wow. Or no, is it Denzo Washington? Goes voodoo, huh? Oh, no, no. I'm talking about the skeleton key.

Who's in the skeleton key? Kate Hudson. So are we. Kate Hudson. Oh, no, I'm talking about what's the, shit. What's the one with, shit?

Get in the comments, let me know. It's some kind of, it's some kind of horror thriller with, I can't remember if it's what happens in it the bone collector oh angela joly the bone collector Morgan Freeman Morgan Freeman okay also Sherey Whitfield from Real Housewives of Atlanta okay great so um we get to this voodoo thing and um the women be they Gretchen Shannon and Tamara all flip out and say that this is the devil's work

and it's actually a tourist trap for Filthy Yucky Normie so don't worry too much about the devil conjuring you or vice versa they split up Emily says that Shannon and Tamara made up which is actually incorrect and Tamara starts talking about Jen making a doll of her

And she goes into, her and Jen do this tandem thing, I believe, I kind of side with Jen much more on this because Jen is mocking the idea that Tamara would think this. And Tamara is just staying very strident that Jen is obsessed with her. So Tamara goes down this big, long list of things that she's going to, Jen's going to make the voodoo doll like. and I was thinking it's really crazy to be this egotistical and unimpressive in the same person like when you're talking about yourself to this degree even if you were an insanely accomplished person wouldn't you just feel awkward doing it like wouldn't your skin start to catch on fire if you were this proud of yourself outwardly you're referring you're talking about tam rat right i don't put anything past that not

I mean hers really gross there are going to be documentaries I think about this show eventually they're already making documentaries about like the biggest loser and how horrible and what it did to our culture now they will

talk about this like wow a show where you were rewarded for being one of the most horrible people to your friend group yeah so she's she's tough and and also do us a favor don't give us a to be continued card we know she's not quitting

the show right way we all know that they didn't show us a trailer for next week well she's definitely not quitting the show so um we get to gretchen shannon and tamera chatting on the ledge and shan badoor says she recorded me illegally and that is against the law and gretchen and tamer have a laugh they can't laugh though that's the thing because of all the stuff and gretchen and tamera say that they should give, that Shannon Bador should give Katie another chance. And that's when we get to the Kiki Minogue conversation.

Ruby. Can you go ahead and break this one down? So I have to ask, Ruby, has any information come out from Kiki Monique, the very popular influencer that I've never heard of? Honestly, I don't think so. I'm going to look it up, but not

to my knowledge. Kiki Minogue was told by Katie that Gretchen. villain you know her name come on man don't get us a one star you know why I guys I'm just I'm weaving right now okay sorry go weave go we all right Kiki Monique why not go to the source and say did Katie tell you this Katie told Kiki Monique that Gretchen told Katie that she was roofied her that 14 years ago okay great yeah great great look back if this may have been before your

time watching OC. This is classic naked wasted. I mean, this is a cultural event. Yeah. Well, where were you when naked wasted? Don't remember. But we'll get to this

in a moment. I just want to say I saw a T-Mobile commercial with Billy Bob Thornton and he looks exhausted. So meanwhile, Meatball loves Voodoo and Tamara and Gretchen and Shannon talk about what a bitch Katie is a little bit more.

Gretchen is beside herself. She cannot believe this. Tamara first, Dylan, you glossed over one of the most incredible things that's ever happened when Gretchen earnestly says, well, Tamara, you got a DUI and that's illegal too. Or Shannon, sorry. And that was beautiful, I thought, right?

I'm so sorry. We need to give her. Yeah, don't take that from. I'm really sorry that I didn't acknowledge that because that was a magical moment. But Tamara and Shannon, they really are back on track because what fixes friendships faster than anything, Patrick?

Backchanneling information. Incorrect. Someone to hate. Oh. Somebody to hate. Tamara and Shannon both hate Katie. Also, Tamara's drinking again. The drink has no ice in it,

which is disgusting. She walks in Shannon's room. Shannon is, more than any housewife or really any person in such alarming states of disrepair. I'll say it because I want to be accurate. She looks like Ricky Rock at the drummer from Poison. Okay. And Roots, you were going to say that, right?

I was, my note says Brett Michaels. So basically, yes. Yeah, same person. So. Get it together. we head out to dinner Gina looks like a sausage and Shannon cannot

again Shannon can't breathe sitting but like okay so here's the thing so Tamara comes in and she looks like Brett Michaels and then they talk Tamara's drinking her water and it's not even said this this is a glass of men's gal

and there was ice cubes in it so you can see that it's wet and frosted her glass was not it was as though she poured lukewarm straight alcohol in there and said that'll do yeah uh this is coming from someone who's experienced this um that's a drunk move oh yeah i've done it before oh yeah so gretchen is not yet at this dinner because she has to have a conversation with jenn and

katy and they they break down the whole thing and naked wasted yes which is an important invent in our culture dylan and i did not appreciate that you played it down it was for Our generation, it was like the landing on the moon. Or 9-11. Can I tell it? Can I say, you know, I don't know why. First, you try to take away Gretchen's incredible comment towards Shannon. You're trying to belittle naked-wasted.

And I, yeah, Pat, thank you. I'm sorry, I didn't defend you harder. This is what, it's wild what you're doing today. Yeah. Dill, it was exactly like when we pretended to land on the moon. Yeah. Boy, those guys can really keep a secret. Oh, yeah.

Crazy. Yeah, they filmed it up on Laurel Canyon. I heard that. Yeah. And it was Stanley Kubrick? Yeah, he was like, let's do it again. And Buzz was like, come on, dude. We've got enough.

And that's Buzz Lightyear. Yeah, that's Buzz Lightyear for all you history buffs out there. Okay, to infinity and beyond. The issue I have with so many of Tamara's storylines is this. She'll make some insane accusation. Then someone will go to the, person that she's made the claim about they will go she said this they said no i did not and then we will fight about who is correct and really have no resolution whatsoever that's usually how

this goes yeah roos okay there's there's also something in pat you can back me up here this naked wasted situation was like tamra basically shoved her 30-something-year-old son into a bathroom with gretchen and gretchen was still miced and was like no like i'm not going to do anything with you like you're very nice, but you can't touch me. Like, no, no, no. It was the weirdest, most predatory, just weird thing to do. And that was 83 years ago. And it's, she would do it again, probably, I think.

Oh, 100%. I mean, our culture has changed dramatically, but Tamrat is the same person. Not really. We've kind of rebounded back to naked wasted, I think, in this society. All right. So the whole gang arrives. Gretchen is in a rose long. Well, I want to say that...

Skin tight. It's worth saying, forgive me. me down i know we're going long and we will move on but katy starts putting together this plan of tam rats and if you guys know when you're going to pull off a scheme it doesn't start out the day before the scheme it's months in advance to pull off something so they look back at her having dinner with katy going oh that blogger you gave her information right and so she was essentially kind of planting her little seeds there to manufacture this storyline. Did you guys catch that? Ruby? No, thank you, Patty. Wow. Misdirection is optimized here.

I think the difficulty that me and Ruby have understanding this is we've never really schemed. I've done it a few times, one time magnificently. It was down on Hollywood Boulevard. It started a year earlier. I'll tell the story sometime on APS or PMZ. I had my

competitors coming in for me, and I pulled off one of the greatest stunts ever. There was a siege that you survived. Yes. That's incredible work. It had to be kept secret. Misdirection must, was needed. Yeah, it must be at play.

Yes. And I did it. I don't want to gloss over this. The Retchin is in a rose-themed long-slave. And that was important for me to just acknowledge. I thought she looked lovely. So Gretchen tells Tamara that she believes Katie. Maybe she doesn't believe Katie.

She just doesn't think that two people who reached out to you, one that cannot be named is the most reliable source. And also, you're a bank. and she. Ruby touched on this at the beginning of the episode. Tamrat has such a reputation for being a liar and a manipulator that everybody at this table at this point is like, we'll question anything that comes out of her mouth, which I'd argue really sets her back.

Yeah, she's kind of like the bitch that cried horror or something like that, you know? You know what I mean? So we get back to the table and Shannon Mador's, actually chained this time. And we get some really fun Cucca bearer stuff out of her. She's really amped up to 11, and she hates Katie. She really does. This is crazy because I think Tamrat's sitting here at this point going,

thank you for saving me. You are going to go for her. But wow, the tables are turned. Yeah. Do you want to break down the game film? The turns have tabled. What do you mean? Oh, well, Tamrat realizes no one is buying into this story.

She thought she was just going to coast at dinner, have everybody jump and pound on Katie, and they don't. Yeah. And there's enough room that is left in this dispute for Jen to go, okay, well, while we're just talking about a bunch of nonsense, Let's just bring up the fatty photo real quick. Yes. Okay. So this is why I'm so disappointed in Shannon because in this moment when everybody at this table has basically said, actually, Tamara, give us proof or you're the only thing you've proven to be repeatedly is a lying snake. So this will not be the time that that's not the case.

So Shannon is like then she starts screaming like a woman in an airport having a mental break. Oh, great, great placement. Yeah. I mean, Dylan, I felt like I was watching someone's mom that you went to high school with that was like actually losing their mind in an airport. You're not going to put my bags up front because I don't trust that you're not going to check them. Yeah. I'm going to my son's wedding. That's who Shannon was at this table with her Brett Michael's hair. Loved it. Need more. I loved it too. I'm not a fan of sketchy Katie. And I love that she got her.

but, you know, we had to give some business to Tamrat, too. And I love when we were discussing the picture, the fatty picture. And Tamrat, basically, rather than defender position on it, she basically goes back to, you know, you've been trying to be me since 2013. Well, the problem with Tamara's style of argument here is that she's on opioids. Yeah. So she's a little exhausted. I'm sorry, I'm going to use a sports reference.

Mike Tyson in 1986 was way overconfident. He was banging a hooker two days before his fight with Buster Douglas. He got syphilis and didn't have any antibiotics for it. He's in a fucking fight, right? For like 30 million bucks, Buster Douglas beat his ass. Yeah. You got to be prepared. Buster Douglas' mother had just passed away.

It was just really a beautiful story. That's right. And we love Mike. He did rape, which is really disgusting. So we don't love Mike. You know what his defense was in that case? Well, you're coming to me like a... He was raised like an animal.

That was his defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get you off, Mike, with that one. Come on, guys. I mean, look at him. He was raised like an animal. Okay. A couple things here.

All right. So this is when she tells Gretchen to shut up. Mm-hmm. And then Meatball accuses Tarry. out of being sloshed. Yeah. Let's just be honest. You're sloshed right now, okay?

You got that wonky eye. She is. She is. And Jen, Jen is, I think, my favorite person on the show. Ben mine for the last two seasons. She is such an airhead, but she's so nice.

And she hates Tamara so much. And Tamara's not a man. So she can have the composure. And she can sit in the pocket and really, I think the difficulty that Tamara is having, and we've said so many, you know, horrible things. Well, we've weaved all over the place tonight. Bum knee showing up to a race, all that stuff.

Tamara is so out of her element right now because she's beating, being defeated left and right. So Katie goes, get out of here and leave me alone. Boom, roasted. Gretchen goes, you're a snake. Boom, roasted. Jen sits across from her and goes. you're a little wonky right now it's okay we can have this conversation another time boom roasted meatball goes you're blacked out right now boom roasted and she's like i'm going to quit the show

yep it was an onslaught this was an onslaught and coming at a time when she can handle it she does not have allies and then she proceeded to litter to i guess she got in the car and fucking posted that Instagram. This was unbelievable. I loved Jen. She is such a nice, wonderful little airhead. And I thought to myself, I think she sat there for like six minutes and was like, I can do this. I can do that. I will bring it up. I can do this. And then she found her lull and she took her moment. And I, Jen, proud of you. Yeah, we're on our feet. Jen one. We're on our feet. Gen one. The bananas fosters get there. And everybody has a really good laugh.

Really good time with it. Meanwhile, Tamara is in the back seat of an escalade just spiraling. Calling her soon to be ex-husband to get her a fucking flight. Ruby, do you remember when Tamrat posted that on Instagram? I, no. I wouldn't have seen that. No, it was deleted pretty quickly. Yeah, I don't think she quits the show.

No, she doesn't. But get in the comments. Let us know what you think. Okay, five stars, kind of words to patreon.com. Slash another podcast network for the traitors, APS, and more. We love you guys very much. I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Say goodbye.

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