Another Below Deck Podcast - Tamra, You're Doing it Right Now | RHOC Reunion Pt. 1

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Dylan, Pat and Ruby are back to break down lawns that dogs pee on, nips of gin, sketchy Katie, love, recording on your phone, dirt and more from Bravo's RHOC. PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

So, if I was Shane, like, how- He sucks. No, I know, but how would you feel as a husband if your wife is on national television? His head is like a lawn that dogs keep peeing on, you know? Hi, hello and welcome to a brand spake-a-new episode of Fan TV. I'm here next to Penn. Good to be here. And Ruby is calling in from Oklahoma. You're in Oklahoma?

No, I have no idea why he just said that. Hi, Pat. It's the Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion Part 1. I said, Oklahoma, baby. Oh, because that's Terry Debrough's brother. Right. That was his final words on stage before he went back to his hotel room and had an unfortunate ending. Guys, we have been watching this season the whole season, and we are now at the end.

You know, I feel like Pat was shitting on the never-ending story a couple evenings ago. On our recent PMC. By the way, if you haven't checked out our Patreon, get on over there right now. It's so good. I feel like Dylan and I are firing on all. cylinders, specifically with the number one show on that platform, PMZ. So go sign up for that. What did I do this show? I explained what was happening with all the deaths at the Disneyland parks. I went through... It turned out it was just fat people falling down. No, no, no. Donald

Duck is on a murder streak. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And then I also did a new game called Does the Apple fall far from the tree. That was a good game. That was a great game. Yeah. And then Corey Feldman has a girlfriend, where he produces music for her, that is absolutely awful. Uh-huh. Yeah. So get on over there. Check it out. It's a really good show.

Also, our coverage of real housewives of Salt Lake City is over there at patreon.com slash another podcast network. Now, that was shitting on never-ending story and PMZ, which was hard for me because, uh, rips, I don't know. I watched it a hundred and fifty times. I don't know if you were too young for it. I don't know if you're being sarcastic right now. or not um because no it's it it's power rangers level of watched in my head we have uh there is a

dog in the neighborhood where our mother dwells and the dog is the dragon but in dog form and if eventually it was like we've lived there since forever and finally like last year when i was home my mom and i said we've we have to tell you your dog looks like falcour and you are you don't know that is, but it's the dragon from never-ending story. And that man... It's the luck dragon from never-ending story. Hey, Ruby, let me tell you something. Don't look up what a tray you looks like now. Okay. Oh my God. It's bad. Why would I? That's not the... No, that's a great question. If you were going to. Right. But listen, I feel like we're about to pass between the two totems that can shoot light at you, depending on if you have fear or courage

It's your heart. Today we have courage because we are almost at the end of this atrocious season of the Real Housewives of Orange County. Now that we're done with the season, and I know the reunion is part of the season, but if we could as an exercise, give our tits on season 19 of the Real Housewives of Orange County. I'm going to go ahead and say, not even a pair. I'm going to give it one tit.

One tit. Yep. Wow. Tamara. And to me, Andy was... My video wasn't recording. Okay. Record it.

Okay. So Andy, this reunion, I felt was the MVP. Held her accountable for her stupidity. Because Tamara, she can be a kind of like, Tamara does this she does siops on the women like sloppy reverse psychology and deflection it doesn't work on Andy he he owns everything and he's smarter than you by so many exponential levels that it's not going to work so I loved Andy but but this season was just she's got to just go so far away well done thank you Ruby

Pat. Okay. I thought this was, first off, let me start with the reunion. It was better than I thought it could be. Yeah. They dipped into, they dipped their toes in all the little things that I'm curious about Katie. Arfid. Her shit. We spent a little bit on that. I know you're invested in the Arfitt. Oh, of course. I want to know how many French fries Luke eats. Keep me up at night. but yeah i'm glad we got to that um but uh so the reunion was good but the season was horrible uh they need to do what beverly hills has done this season which is they added two new girls i don't know who the blonde-haired girl is but i know who rachel zo is and they're they're women yeah uh who's the other new cast member they added no clue just a girl it seems like uh just a girl seems like

Kyle's going to give her a lot of shit in the promo. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe Kyle will do something other than nothing. Tamrat in some clip was taking credit for being the only person that makes the show entertaining. I would argue Tamara. Oh, go ahead. Brovie.

No, no. These are your tips. Okay. Tamara, you make the show horrible. Horrible. You bring everybody down. And as Dylan pointed out, you are a horrible person and no one holds you really accountable. Jen on occasion does. All the women don't do as good of a job as Andy did on this

reunion to call you out on your horseshit. You can't be an equal and call her out on her horseshit. You have to be above her because otherwise she'll just either storm out, call you a bitch, bring up something that has nothing to do with the thing that you're accusing her of, all of these different sloppy ways to evade any accountability or blame whatsoever. But if you are her boss, you can actually go, oh, but you are a fucking foot soldier of the devil. Right, though? Yeah. Anyways.

All right. For my tits, I'm going to give a call back to the original total recall where there was a woman in there. I believe she was an alien. She had three tits. She was a prostitute. I'm going to give it three tits. Okay.

Ruby. All right. I agree with both of you guys. This was a season. Reunion, I'm having fun of. with so far. I also like that we didn't have 45 minutes at the beginning of Andy going into everyone's room

being like, how are you feeling today? Shut up, shut up. The season was dark and then it was dark because of I don't like anything with the kids. We had a mid-season departure with Katie

and she's so pretty and that was sad for me. And then Tamara was a black hole of on the reunion you can see and it was like little snippets of um when like a serial killer gets caught and they're in court and like their victims get to speak to them uh the ones they didn't kill and you see little cracks of who they are come out this reunion every time Shannon bedore spoke it it reminded me of when Dylan and I were younger and to antagonize each other into doing things

like throwing each other into walls we would do the voice thing of like oh really oh you think so yeah I'm so happy that you picked up on this because Tamara's little micro facial outbursts tonight or macro facial. Loud. They reminded me of Roger Stone being deposed. You're right. When Roger Stone was being deposed, he would, he had flare-ups. And Tamara had those very same flare-ups tonight. Thank God our Constitution has pardoning power, you know?

right for people like roger and tamra thank god um what i will say is uh similar to roger and other foot soldiers of the devil like tamara you can see when they're on camera they try to keep it in so much and they feel it come out right and they have to reel it so shannon will do things and be like shut the fuck up you stupid shannon i'm not talking to you right now okay and you're like oh but there but that little the red guy with the horns we just saw him inside camera saw him camera yeah yeah so yeah so yeah so yeah dark season um less of you i i want her i don't want her rewarded for her behavior anymore and i mean it's like jox taylor not because she's throwing her wife into rose bushes because she's addicted to cocaine but i think it's too dark and i don't

think that she deserves to have any type of that should she should not be rewarded for this just in case anybody was wondering, the full five hour and 25 minute Roger Stone deposition is on YouTube at a channel called Shut the Muck Up. It is 389,000 views. I don't know him. That's why I pardon him. I've got no idea who he is. One last, hold on one last note. No politics. Yeah. One last note on Shannon Bador and Tamara. You would say, though, if you're going to pardon somebody, you should probably know who they are. That's true. Maybe we had an auto pen to it.

All right. Shannon Bador and Tamrat, I would have paid for this. What am I signing here? Put them out in a cage match and let them just fucking fight it out before this because they kept going at it during the reunion and it was very distracting. Well, okay. So, Pat, I agree, but really quickly, I just want to put us, we're at the match, right? We've all, we paid for front receipts.

This is the co-main event with Jake Paul versus some old guy that Corey Feldman. There you go. Yeah. And Netflix crashed. The entire website has been back up. It's rebooted. So we're ready to go now. Tamara is actually physically fit.

Shannon is not. So it would be similar to someone like Jake Paul and me in the ring where it would be one person immediately crying. They would cower. and then the other one would would punch them repeatedly. The only hope Ador has is an early rush and body slam.

It would be amazing to watch. But I do think that if we get into the later rounds. Yeah. It has to be a knockout. Digger deep into the later rounds. Yeah. I mean, the corner men are giving her fucking nips of gin. That's the only way she can keep going.

Tamara's just. filled with anger archie's in her corner yeah yeah yeah so anyways we hope it doesn't uh resort to that but uh all fucking i'll fight tamara i don't give a shit all right so should should we start the show now i'm kidding i wouldn't fight tam i wouldn't fight tamra i wouldn't fight tamra i wouldn't either she's very strong and definitely too strong for me do you remember when she did that body building thing for a while uh-huh yeah that was weird that was weird and body building is so weird. Why are you all so brown? Yeah. Why is that? You guys all look ridiculous. It looks like they have tumors everywhere. I had a friend that did this. It came out of

nowhere. She did it for three months, did a competition and has never spoken about it again or done it again. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. I've known people that have tried to do it when they're like, yeah, it's great. I'm physically active. I'm taking FDA not approved drugs. And I have not had my period in a year and a half, but I feel fantastic. The weird, the, all of that stuff is, you know, like what you do in the privacy of your own home, fine. Being the people that are out and you bring your own, like, steamed broccoli that has no salt, fuck off. Don't, don't, if you're going to do this, you don't get to go outside with people. That's the deal. Yeah, that's the deal. Sorry. Hey, bro. Is that cooked in seed oils?

Because if it's not, we're going to have to jet. All right. Let's get into the reunion. So, Bador is fresh off a week at that orchid garden. The golden door. And she should get her money back because she looks haggard. Holy shit. She did not look healthy.

Seven minute drive for Heather DeBrow. She is not going to be a Beverly Hills housewife. She is not going to be back on Malibu Rising. What is it called? Malibu County. Malibu County. Malibu County. And nothing could make us and the viewing audience happier.

Andy says to Emily, and this is kind of the quiet aggression of gay culture towards women. Yeah. You look great. What the fuck's going on? Yeah, yeah. What happened? You lose weight or something?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gay men get to do that. Yeah, this was absolutely just a revolting line of questioning from Andy. you go new segment it's called the gay corner uh patty's in the gay corner right now this is where i get to be a gay man and say whatever i want all i'm sure that no one will have a problem with this at all no no no because i'm in the gay corner this is where gay men get to voice their opinions on look she looked like what terry de bro when he was a surgeon on a show called the swan used to produce yeah she emily looks like a swan a swan okay yes i don't know i don't

don't think you also she looks like china the wrestler okay i don't think that you needed to do gay corner for that that was just pat corner oh no it was gay corner i don't want to get in trouble with the audience okay um rubbs yeah no you you you can't he based he was he just said oh you're not you're not so fat are you yeah he was like nope i work out a lot he was like well that's great for you okay jina yes gina killing it in the real stake game but it was just like crazy he literally said you didn't you got less fat than you were before that's wild good for you and then he just moved on and it was it was gay corner it was it was wild it was wild jean has been schlepping a lot and katie we missed you for most of it how you doing how you feel today um we get to jen did your little

pervert boyfriend say anything gross about you being here and she was like actually yeah yeah yeah yeah he keeps pretending you wants to have sex with me yeah uh how many different women is he cheating on her with or are you calling him a gay man yeah no i'm not calling him a gay man i'm i'm saying that he's overdoing it because he likes being on the television show got it uh all right so tamara got her tits done because she ripped her peck uh this is the kind of injury that chanabedore would never sustain uh because in order to do that you have to be um doing anything other than drinking long island iced teas on a couch at 10 o'clock in the morning yeah you can break in a killies that way.

Kind of. That's the kind of injury she would have. She would get the injury from a fall, from a, from a stepping up on a stair. Yeah. I don't even know how you would move. How the fuck would you get a peck in a shoulder? It's wild. Yeah.

That only happens to NFL players in Tamara. So she says that she's not going to be quitting today. Please do so. And Teddy has zero tumors detected, which is really, really great news. Not for her storyline. She won't be able to use that as a crutch nuts. season. Well, let's get into it. So Tamara went to Jesus Jugg's wedding and she said that it was the best wedding she's ever been to. She doesn't want to speak about it too much because Shannon's here,

but it was the best wedding I've ever been to. Shannon, can you see right now because I'm rubbing this in your face? Yeah, it's like a kid not getting invited to a Six Flags birthday party and then the people go on at recess going, listen, I don't want to talk about it, but Batman? pretty fucking awesome pretty fucking awesome Alex passed out next to me while we were on the corkscrew came too

I mean it was one of the best days of my life but I don't want to get into it I'm happy that you used a reference from childhood because I was going to say Dylan this moment is one of those moments where you have when you're like probably in your mid to late 20s

everybody has a couple friends parents or just adults that are friends with your parents that you're like growing up you're always like wow I think you're kind of a fucking bitch but you, you're an adult. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

And then you're, then I'm an adult and you're an adult. That's who Tamara is. You're just like, oh, wow, you're, you're absolutely horrible. You're awful. I do not, I do not envy any of her children. I do not think Simon is a good person, but boy, oh, boy, good job on that divorce, my guy. Good job, Simon. And you're a bad guy, but good.

And just for the record, I, I just don't want to sound like a loser. I never got not invited to a six-flect birthday party. Oh. Just so we're. Elliot didn't get invited to a birthday party a couple weeks ago. I'm going to, well, sorry, I'm still holding that in. No, I was going to ask, how is that one of the most, that would be like one of the hardest things.

We're at war. Yeah, okay. So you can't. Yeah. Well, she's, she's running around calling everybody fat. you got to do she really she's been running around saying why are you so fat did don't tell you that i did that to someone or is he did that too you did too ruby yeah good yeah oh yeah it's it's an honesty thing ruby was not invited to angelica's birthday party

is that right also our daughter loves cheerleading movies so she's watched uh every entry into the Bring It On franchise. Good job. And one of the original films uses the word whore pretty frequently. That's now part of my daughter's vernacular. And when we talk about the entries of Bring It On, there's one. Oh, no. And when we say one of the originals, there's one.

No, there's Bring It On again. There's Bring It On to the Finish. There's bring it on fight to the finish. There's bring it on world play. There's one bring it on with doucheco and dunce. Okay. All right. Clearly you're, uh, clearly you're, uh, clearly on what?

You're, uh, there is ignorant. No, no, no, no. You're a fan of the original film. Oh, yeah, big time. There is one of these 11 iterations. I believe it's all or nothing with Hayden Penetier. That's right. And I think it is about a.

one dance called like crunking or something and it's very violent dancing google that or tic-tok it or youtube it give yourselves a little l-o-l later okay uh fun fact about uh well fun story and this is all alleged even though i saw it with my own eyes uh was at a entourage after party uh when i was allegedly a paramount lot hayden panitier was there uh she was blacked out oh yeah she's a fuck oh my god oh she's total fuck okay okay but she's alleged and that was she's a sweeper She's a sweet person. She doesn't even raise her own kids. She's a fuck up.

Allegedly. No, that's a fact. It's not a fact. It's a fact. It's not a fact. I loved her in Nashville. I loved her crumping. Guys, we have to get back to the show.

Okay, sorry. Tamara says she's still in fucking therapy. Great. Okay. So let's get to Tamara's approach to conflict in her radioactive spirit in general. So she's working on herself and only, behaved like one of, again, Satan's foot soldiers because of Teddy. And I'm very, very thankful for two people here. Andy first, um, shattering any illusion we had of an improvement of any kind. Ah, her therapy journey. Yeah. So Tamara is presenting this case as though she's softened and

she was much calmer and less of a cunt this season. And Andy goes, no, no, no, you were a bigger con. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. More horrible. Right. And then we get a look back on it. Yep, exactly. And then, thank God for Shannon Bador, who I think threads this needle quite well. Not only does she blow a hole in her, woe is me, I can act as horrible as I want to because of what Teddy's going through. But Shannon raised an incredible point. I was going through the darkest period of my life. And that was me going through it directly. And you had no sympathy, no grace, no anything whatsoever for me. Fuck you, Tamara Judge.

Or Tamara Grudge, should I say. Oh, come. I loved that. But the reality that Tamara wants us to live in where she is, she is such an empathetic person that her friend getting sick is considerable. And it is one of the worst things that's ever happened to her. And as we've all said, none of us are buying that. No one is convinced you are not that good of her.

a friend. You are not that empathetic of a person. And Satan is showing again. You have to zip up your jacket. By the way, if she could sell Teddy out for a bigger prize, she would do that in two seconds. Two seconds. Maybe even one. Also, the worst thing that's ever happened to you is your daughter doesn't talk to you. Right. We'll get to that later. Okay. Tamara wants Vicky on the season. Next season. She thinks that it's, uh, she deserves it. She's an OG. Now, the interesting wrinkle here, though, is that Tamara fucking hates Vicky, hates her with a burning passion. Andy showed the fuck up for work today. And when he was like, oh, that's so funny. You were on a podcast recently saying that you guys are good. And then recently also you

equally said that she could shut the fuck up and fuck the fuck right off. And then they play it. And you're like, so which person are, again, zip up your jacket because your red little horns are showing. She is such a dark little podster in so many different areas of this universe. It's very scaly. It's so scaly. Now, we get to the accusation of Shannon trying to ice Tamara out. Now, she has done this to numerous people. Shannon Bador. Yes. Yes. Effectively. So I don't think she was trying to do this to Tamrat because you can't do it, Tamrat. But she definitely did it. Well done to Jesus jugs. She did it to Bolino and I think that there's a world where she did it to

Katie but for Tamara to try to, again, Tamara tries to make real these claims that you're just like I'm sorry. It's almost like Tamara listens to the dumbest opinions on the internet and then brings them forward. Tamara's arguments, the cases

that she presents are a little bit like I don't know Ruby's over there in hip hop, New York, Brooklyn and stuff like that, you go to an art gallery and there's some guy who hates his dad and he's like stabbing himself in the leg and then crawling on a canvas. Is that an installation piece? Yeah, it's like that, that this is art.

You're like, well, wait, wait, hang on a second. Why is everybody standing around this right now? This doesn't make any goddamn sense. Well, it's art. I don't know if that was a good comparison, but that's what Tamara's arguments are like to me. That was great. All right. So once again, we get this confusing Katie throw to Jen thing where Katie invents something.

something. And that was, um, can I say I, um, I don't think she invented this. I think Alex Baskin was like, I'm not going to fucking show my naked butthole right now, allegedly. So it's like, nope, no, Andy, say that is not true. We never spoke. Thank you. Hold on. I want to back up for one second before we get there, but I love this. Set this up. Okay. Hold on. But before I set that up, I want to go back to one piece of gold in this reunion. Both Emily and HD had said they don't trust. Tamrat with anything. Well, we're going to get there, I think. No. Katie gets in the hot seat in the next segment. No. Am I wrong, Ruby? You're switched. I'm switched. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Talk about a butthole being exposed. This guy's walking around ass backwards like a fucking baboon.

Oh, I'm going to shout. Go ahead. It's a combo. Can I be honest, actually, Katie talks about becoming Tamara's friend and now that's really hard. And then everybody says, Tamara, you're not trustworthy. And then we go back to Katie being a lying piece of shit. So it's a really actually pat you could be right not sure okay i think he's assholes out fair enough let me do it my way like uh frank a great singer yeah yeah all right emily and hd said they don't trust fucking tamrat what information and andy points out when tamrat pushes back on that that uh she's used a lot of people's secrets against them and then uh she pushes back and says name one which is uh unbelievable um i was laughing

because I didn't need Andy to tell me one in my head, I thought. Oh, yeah, sure. Slade doesn't pay child support, Bass Lake, uh, cheating on Dawn, Ryan's money laundering, uh, everything. She is only the thing she says, find one example of, right? Right. It's crazy.

So Tamara is taken a bit of a beating. this dynamic of the women that we're discussing where they just do not trust her and um andy once again VIP says go says goes says goes why are you shocked by this you're a demon you're a demon and also here's the other thing too did you guys think she was having um a little more trouble moving her face this week than normal i thought you were gonna ask is she having a rogerstone macro uh facial explosions are you talking about tam rat yeah i was talking about tamara i think she's the most uncomfortable she's ever been on a reunion because like when she was talking about her look i know i make fun of all them but like

when she was crying about her daughter later in the episode you really like she wants to so bad but she cannot emote she's it won't happen i mean we see that all over the the place in this show. There's just, I mean, when you look at Lisa Barlow crying, there's, well, she doesn't. There's not a thing in the world in her face that could present a tear forward, just not one. There's too many things in there. Right. The plastic keeps you from the tears. And this was like there was no point in even trying to conjure them. Yes, yes. Yes. at a certain point, the things that they've done to their face, it's a little bit like they have little sham wows and their tear ducts.

I have to say... Shamwow, you can't cry. They're getting all sucked up. I have to say this about Tamrat. I think she looks amazing. I mean, she's almost 60. Ugh. Really?

Are you kidding me? No, I think... I can't divorce. She looks at, Dylan, I'm a different generation than you and Ruby and Kaelin. She, what she looks like at 60 is not what 60 used to look like. I can't separate character from aesthetics. I just can't. I can.

I live in fear every day that this is what I, like, this is why everyone's like, you don't need to get Botox. You shouldn't. Okay. Well, what the fuck are you going to do then when people actually start to age? Because 60 year olds look like this now. Okay. I'm just going to age.

And also 60 year olds. are sitting on each other's faces fucking now, too. No. Yes. No. Yes. They have the hormones. Yep.

You've balanced out your hormones. Nobody's, you know, 60s are a new 30s now and want to kill your asses. Yeah. Yep. Only. They're not having sex anymore.

It's just eating a butt. Wow. That's so crazy, but I'm actually happy for them. So, um, we get to Katie filming Bador. And whether she showed Alexis Bluntler.

in or not. You know, when we get backing, tracking, backing, tracking to whose butthole is out now, when she talks about Alex Baskin, Baskin, coming in and, you know, I can't remember exactly the machinations of it. I can give the breakdown if you want. Please give me the break. Because this is the larger point. Katie does this shit all the time.

And it, she'll present something. and because she's such a sketchy bee, I'm in a whirlwind of vagary and confusion. I have no idea what's up and what's down. Okay. Katie alleges, well, so she was at the promo shoot for last season. And Katie was filming Shannon Bador flipping out about wanting to ice her. Who did she want to ice out of the show, Ruby?

Katie. I thought that it was that it was that she was recording her saying the night of her DUI. That was the footage that she was freaking out about. Okay. So she's flipping up. The audience is losing their minds because they know exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

I apologize. I apologize. It's bad hosting. So we get to, well, Tamara kind of out of left field. And this is one of her hot routes that she goes to all the time too. but Katie is having this dispute with with Shannon and Tamara just goes well you've filmed people too haven't you deaf zip up Tammy zip it up oh god yes Shannon Bador has filmed she recorded a very aggressive confrontation between Vicki Gunvelson and whatever whatever boy

she was shocked up with at the point at that time and then she deleted it what Katie did was completely different. It's a false equivalency and a bad faith entry into the proceedings, which is only what Tamara does. She's a rat-faced B. So we get to Tamara just casually saying disgusting things like Tamara, like Shannon doesn't care about her father. And when Andy says, like, what's an example of someone bringing up dirt? I thought they went to one of the worst examples, which was Shannon saying, you brought up my father's alcoholism, which like, Tamara does so many disgusting things. That one didn't even podium for me.

The time in Shannon's life, which was one of the worst times when David, the affair just broke and whatever, whatever, when she tells Tamara because she stupidly trusts her and thinks that she's going to help her through this time in her life, et cetera.

And Tamara just goes to Heather and tells her. And then Shannon freaks out and it's like, oh my God, Tamara, did you say something? And she's like, no, oh, my goodness, that's terrible. And then the next day literally says, I said something to Heather. There is so many, there are so many instances of her doing shit like this where she gains nothing.

She doesn't look better than the person. She just wants to spread these dark shit, bad fucking things about these people because she's dark shit, bad demon devil soldier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She really, really is. I know a way to get rid of demons still. Jesus. You get rid of them up here. In your head. Yeah. And if you're not in the right spot to do that. Yeah. If you can't.

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Where's our co-host? Take it away. I'm going to grab a little smoke. Okay. Dill, do you mind grabbing our producer and myself a white claw? All right. Next up, I believe we go to Katie's sketchy past. She's in the hot seat.

We get to look back at Katie's sketchy past. They discuss Katie, well, I'm sorry. Well, we probably covered this. Jen explains away why she called Katie a con artist. And it was really just her being, asked a question about Katie and not finding the right words to explain away how she felt about Katie lying a lot. Thank you so much. Then Katie alleges that she was set up by Emily for that lie detector thing, you know? Emily denies it. Now, she can't say that production came in and said,

let's do a lie detector day, which I felt bad for. And then me, Paul jumps in to say that she knew Katie would fail most of those lie detector tests because, well, we all know. She's a sketchy bitch. Now, listen, right before we get to this moment, there's a moment of the lady's attempting to force a kind of clarity onto Tamara, wherein Jen says, do you ever think that everybody doesn't like you and that it might be a problem with you? And Tamara goes, that's why I'm going to therapy. Okay, here's the problem, Tamara.

after a year and a half, we don't need complete transformation, but a marginal improvement would be ideal, but we have not even seen a whiff of that. By the worse. I love how she has the key word. She says to Heather, she goes, I'm receiving what you're saying. Like, those are the bullshit words of someone that's been in therapy. I'm hearing you. I'm hearing.

I'm receiving this. Okay. Okay. So we get to Kiki. Kiki. Emily's kids hated Heather. Gina's a racist. She films people and plays them for Alexis Bolino. Shanna Bador says that Katie is worse than Alexis and worse than Tamara Judge. Now that's something that Shannon Bador will apologize for. Oh yeah. She thought a lot about that. I mean, think about that. Think about how awful Tamara is. And then think about Shannon Madore saying Katie's worse. Tamara is so awful that Shannon Bador would apologize to somebody that filmed her without her consent and showed other people.

That's how awful Tamara is. Yeah. I, I, uh, I disagree with Shannon Bador. Katie's a sketch, uh, sketchy bitch. Uh, and a, and a con artist and a liar, compulsive liar. But, um, it's more important to jump over right. now to um how luke's doing yeah turns out he's a panda now and he eats bamboo and he has a strep uh strap okay hang on okay all right before you get there we have this moment where

they try to go after emily for the things that she said in her confessionals that's right So to Tamrat, she's pretty contrite. And then contrite means like nice, right? Not a clue. Okay. Listen, this recap's been all over the place. Who cares? And then in her confessional, she busts Tamrat's balls.

Right. So they accused Katie of being two-faced, kinder on the outside, very, very contrite in the confessional. That's not right. So contriety means. Contrite means like skin, like skin type and fast. No. No. I think it means like guilty, but like you are like you're full of, okay, now I need to.

Look it out. No, it means. Oh, feeling you're expressing remorse or affected by guilt. It has nothing to do with speed. You're not seeing that anywhere? So speed is not mentioned anywhere here, no. We'll keep digging. So, um, what are you looking at right now?

I was trying to look up contrite and get us, get us in the comments and let us know if you know what that word means because we're just unsure. Jerry's out. No, they're all here. They've all voted. We've read the definition. Yeah. Kind of.

All right. Let's move on. Ruby, how's this? How's Luke doing? according to you because I summarize that he's a panda. Before we get to the panda. The fact that Tamara judge

had an issue with Emily's remarks in her confession. Shit talking. Is one of the most insane things that she's ever. It's one of the least self-aware things that Tamara Judge has ever said.

She's been on television for 20 years. And can I tell you, That's where it comes from. Tamrat, and we've heard Vicky and Tamrat both express this. They feel like they created this entire institution. And when you talk shit on the Queens, like, how dare you? How dare you? This is why I feel like the housewives need to be cut down a little bit.

Well, that's what Andy does all the time. He's like, you're a friend of the show now. No, I know. But you can't let it get to a tipping point where they think they have They don't. They don't. You must treat Tamara like a love is blind contestant, right? You're not fed every meal of the day. You're put in Abu Ghraib style conditions from time to time. You know, stuff like that, just to knock them down a peg. Well, that's what's hilarious about the bravo world is Andy does that very frequently. He, oh, sit next to me on my couch. Oh, you sued me two years ago.

come on over and let's chat on watch what happens live. And then maybe I'll think about in two years you might do a spinoff. He doesn't ever do it to Tamara. All right, let's get to the pandas. What are you talking about? She had two years off. Arguably, he's done it the most with her. The shit that she's done is like really, really, like, and I know, I think we talked

about this a little bit that when she was with Vicky was like somehow more palatable, even though it was still pretty reprehensible. Emily could go in there and give that entire bad stand-up bit that Slade did where he called her the Michelin Man. And it wouldn't, I don't think any of us would be shocked or bad. And I would be like, yeah, that's part for the course. She deserves that. Right. Because she's, she's, devil soldier.

It's coming out of her jacket. She's so dark and she's mean. Oh, the knees are marching up and down. The knees are marching up and down. Now, listen, I don't, I never do this, right? Like, we get mean comments sometimes. um gotten a lot of mean comments um on another show that i do and i'm always fascinated that there are people that actually write stuff to strangers on the internet if tamra was cut from this

show for season 20 i don't think i would but i would come the closest to sending a stranger a DM and just going i am i'm so happy that this happened to you i but but i wouldn't do it let's get to pandas please by the way i want to say that i want to take credit for the the use of the word putting on ice which i used frequently last season yeah uh that was used because i had said putting this person on ice that's why that was used at this reunion they listened to us mm-hmm thank you um they do they do yeah i just want to do a little Putting on ice. Put on ice is a common expression

meant to delay or postpone a plan project or person. I've never heard it used in a reunion for a cast member not liking. Now, here's the thing about Pat. I really do not know if it's a bit or not. Right. Dylan, we've had side by sides of me saying something on this podcast and then on watch what happens. Right.

A person is talking and admitting later that I took it from the podcast. Kay Chastain, that redheaded girl that has great ass, where I's, The difference here, I think, is that the phrase here, the terminology is kind of like you saying, well, we've never heard any of the real housewives say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. So if a real housewife went on, watch what happens live and said, I think contrite means super thin and fast, we would be like, I think they live. To listen to the podcast. That's right. But put on ice is just, listen, who knows? Maybe they are.

But we know. I think they would have used the word shunned. Okay. Luke has pandas. He has pandas. He has pandas. Yeah, he's not eating french fries anymore. He's eating a bamboo.

Okay. He gave him a strip throat. Who gives a fuck? Let's move on. No, no. I want to say really quickly that while Emily sucks, She sucks. My heart does break for her that she is dealing with this in her child.

Now, now, Pat. That is. That is really, really. Why? Well,

because it's a stressful, intense thing. No. No. She, but I know. someone that knows her. I'm too into this world. She waited a year to ask for a specialist that I know. Like, no, sorry, no. Allegedly. Allegedly. Sorry.

It's very sad when any parent has to go through their child. Not eating French fries. I'm sorry. No, there are a lot more symptoms than that. Here's what I'll say. One, what I wrote was we get to the kids section next here too um this is tough to watch this is tough i'm sure for her to go through you can tell emily's heart breaks for her son in a way that little marching soldiers may not necessarily um for her children allegedly okay i think it's really sweet that people reached out to her and said, I think what's going on with you. Because we've had people reach out to us about stuff with our kids. And it's really, really sweet. And I'm happy that that happened for Emily. Now, do I think that she's a nasty woman? Get out of here. You're a nasty woman.

Fake news. I think that she's a nasty person. But whatever, this is tough. So Dawson, another child who's really talking about marching soldiers. He's really going through it. He keeps past. Hang out. He should definitely see a licensed professional. Tamara, talk to her daughter. This was a sweet moment. I think Tamara's evil,

but she deserves a relationship with her daughter. It's very sad that she doesn't have one. We get to Shane and Emily, who are... You forgot Stella. She's at a rave right now. The Apple does fall close to the tree. Good luck with that.

Okay. So Stella wants to work in hospitality. Ruby? this is just a very normal thing that everybody goes abroad and if you do it properly you realize that america sucks europe is better and you don't want to come home yeah so hospitality yeah but they all do well sometimes they they don't sometimes they don't and that's why we have a show called below deck so um if i was Shane like he sucks No, I know, but how would you feel as a husband if your wife was on national television just on?

His head is like a lawn that dogs keep peeing on, you know? How would you feel, Patty, if Shereezy went on national television and was like, I don't want my fucking husbands come anywhere near me. I'd be like, hey, what the fuck? I'd be hurt by it. And now, listen, I know that my fucking. Squiss is disgusting and I'm disgusting, but you don't need to say that on national television. And then follow it up by being like, I know that you can't emotionally support me. And I get that

for my friends. I don't need that from you because you don't, you can't give that to me. And I think your sperm is disgusting. Dork. Well, one thing like, like my wife, she doesn't, Dork. My wife and I are so bonded. We're best friends. Okay. So let's get to Gretcher's John Benet Ramsey heads out. And we, you know, get, we, we, we dig into what Slade does. What does Slade do? And, and working for the Liberace Foundation was not on my bingo card. I have to say. No, no, no, no. Yeah. Um, really, really bizarre. Andy, we need some follow-ups on that. For sure. Yeah. He's friends with the Prince of Santropay or something like that. And that's how he's on the Liberace Foundation. Um, and I hear they do great work. But let's get to Tamara versus Gretti.

I, no, no, no, really quickly. There's a few things to point out here. One, the location of the board that he serves on is in Las Vegas, Nevada. Okay. Two, this is not a money making position. Okay. We can move on now. Okay.

Okay. So, uh, Joe De La Rosa. Slade's ex-wife. Slate's ex-wife. They weren't married, girlfriend. Well, she goes, yeah, I think it's, it's weird that you bring her around. And Tamara says, I'm not here to serve you. again another like throwaway line another complete straw man thing where um it just doesn't it's not

even good it just doesn't make any sense and so um slade and gretchen getting married um they got married and in god's eyes but not legally they should have been married earlier um but then we talk about faith and we've discussed that all these women are very pious women and slade still has a broken Dick. Now, there's rumors of Tamara banging Sean Simons or whatever. Jeff Timmons. Jeff Tibbitts of. We have not said his name on air. But everybody knows. And that, that, that, Groucher says that this was not premeditated. And now Roger Stone is really getting angry, right? Now we're starting to see the upper gum because the lip is so high and so furled and angry. Now, to be fair, I'm sorry, not fair.

Fair. To make sure the audience understands the analogy or the metaphor, Tamrat is Roger Stowe. Yeah. Okay. And Andy points out that Tamrat brings up a lot of dirt from people's paths. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And Tamrat says she's always coming from a place of kindness. Anything else on that? Yeah, I have another page of notes. Okay. Then Jen points out that. that she brought up the affairs, Jen's affairs. She cheated on her, her.

Is Pat at the point in the show that we're at? No, he's not. He is, he is. He's 100% right. But what I was going to say about that is, Jen, first of all, Rogers' lip starts to unfurl when Heather says, I agree with Wretchen. This didn't seem premeditated.

That was okay. the second Shannon starts to speak, Roger picks up a gun and cocks it and starts waving it around and says, you shut your fucking mouth. Every time Shannon speaks, she loses her mind. But then Jen says something about you were spreading rumors

at the cake party and said that I had a bunch of affairs. And Tamara literally says something along the lines of like, I was very pissed off. And you're right. I shouldn't have said that. I should not. Well, so then can we backtrack really quickly and just admit that you. Yeah. So when you

When you said name one and the whole reunions about seven examples, can we say name one was a ridiculous question to ask? I do think, though, I hate to do this. I agree with Tamara when Gretchen says this wasn't premeditated. It was. Gretchen hates Tamara. And they've been a war of attrition against one another the entire season. For a decade.

Oh, yeah. So Andy asks her, Um, yeah, when we, when we get to this, this, Tamara doesn't, uh, bring up dirt on anybody. Andy is just looking. He, it's like he's trying to negotiate with a raccoon. He's like, you just did it. What are we talking about? You just did it twice.

I wonder with Andy, because obviously this is his network. Does he watch the show just once and laugh? Yeah. I mean, he has to watch the, the shows. because, yeah, he's, he's armed with all of the info he needs. But we wrap things with a really calm, Tamara, saying that Tamara, uh, saying that Shannon Bador is a fucking piece of shit. And that Gretchen is a lying fucking piece of shit.

And next week we get golf guy. Oof. He is, uh, loaded for bear. Oh, yeah. He looks so old. All right. All right. We, we don't need to do that.

Okay. listen um i feel like this was no just to be clear we weren't going to right no no we didn't do that yeah yeah so uh sometimes i wonder what he's thinking because because his eyes were just closed there for a good amount of time and i'm still not sure what he's thinking but get in the comments let us know what you thought about the episode i'm sorry it was a little all over the place their reunions there's lots of accusations lots of tea getting thrown around um but yeah we love you you guys for listening. Join us at patreon.com slash another podcast network for Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and the finale of Traders Australia. We love you guys very much. I'm Dylan

saying goodbye, Pat. Say goodbye. Later, dudes. Ruby. Bye-bye. I don't know.