Another Below Deck Podcast - The Boat is Splitting in Half | Below Deck S8 E4
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Everything is just messy, but all is fair in love and sea rats.
To me, laughs at some insinuation that Natalia makes and Sandy.
Having gone through the leadership management circuit, having gone through, having read and listened to no less than 57 self-help books, knows that this is
just not something that can be done from a leadership position. You can't laugh like this. Welcome aboard another brand-spanking-new episode of another Below Deck Podcast.
My name is Dylan.
I am far, far, far away, not saddled up, next to one Patrick Higgin.
No, we're not together.
I miss you, Del.
It's not the same not having you in the same room, pal.
No, I know it's not the same at all.
We're in very different places.
I'm in Virginia.
You are in Los Angeles.
There are trees here.
There are also...
Can you hear my family screaming right now?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Finish your thought, Dylan.
I actually like the ambience of the love of a family.
Okay.
It sounds like you guys are having dinner back there or something.
We're playing a game called, I think it's called Blank Slate.
And you pull up a word and then everybody gets to write on the whiteboard what it is.
So the most recent clue was main and i wrote
bitch and everyone else wrote street except for my wife who wrote ho and it was it was a beautiful
that's why you're married yeah exactly you finish each other's sentences hundo p baby so listen pat
we gotta hit some psas before we get out of the way. One of them should probably be about how people need to shut the fuck up that this is a zoom show. Go ahead.
travel, the only way that we can record this to deliver this very popular podcast is through a little technology called Zoom. Zoom is inferior to how we typically record this podcast. So we're
doing it anyway. And please refrain from any comments. Shut up. You know, you were total
American Airlines employee there for pretty much the entire time. And then you told them to shut
up. So you saved it but um
anyways we have other public service announcements pat things are going gangbusters we can't thank
you guys enough i mean my goodness the growth the numbers are up thank you for sharing the show
and to reward you as listeners of this another below deck podcast feed we're going to add a
second show that second show is winter house why would we
put winter house on a below deck feed well dill well audience that's because half the cast of
this season's uh bravos presents uh winter house yeah is below deck sea rats including a captain
captain sandy makes an appearance at winter house Dare I say that's jumping the shark, but fuck it.
They did it anyway.
Yeah.
And you guys know, go to patreon.com for lots of other fun stuff.
I will be recapping my trip.
Some of the fun stories include, you know, Winterhouse's.
Maybe Hannah Burner wasn't on that but
summer house is hannah burner's boyfriend des saw him do stand-up at the comedy cellar that was an
experience i also went to interactive theater where i saw a lot of cocks and somebody with a
goat head pour uh blood all over a naked woman who was screaming with a baby in her hand so we'll
talk about all that kind of stuff at patreon.com slash another podcast.
Odile, if you don't mind, let me do one more tease.
On another podcast show, which is at our $5 tier,
I will be sharing a story where I got in a road rage incident this past Friday,
and the other person decided to threaten me with a gun.
So I will run everybody through that story yeah we just have
really really fun stuff coming to patreon so hop over there but um what are we here to do tonight
one of the most fun things talk about below deck unfortunately for me if i could get into my pots
it wasn't that fun for me tonight you good with me going of course just a unremarkable episode of below deck med
an unremarkable episode of below deck med um let's get the charter guests off let's go suck
and fuck let's let's do some binge drinking and let's purge ourselves of this energy because
this is not sustainable okay there's too much backstabbing
there's too much nastiness there's too much toxicity this early on in the season it gives
you this sense of dread in your balls or whatever organs you have that this is not going to be a
good season and nobody wants that people want to be optimistic people want to see hope ahead of them
that's not what we have
right now we're in the doldrums natalia is a vile human being right now a vile human being
if i was to me i would either put eye drops in whatever uh stanley cup she's drinking out of
or i would just try to get her fired i would just say i can't work with her she's gone now dylan another good episode six pots i agree with
of your thoughts on that dylan this environment is too toxic too toxic for my television it
reminded me of horrible jobs i've had where my co-workers are constantly backstabbing each other
um and it's that's not enjoyable it's fun for a little while and then it gets really old and you
want the people to stop talking yeah so in our case we can't have that because we got to recap you know
we're the number one below deck podcast in the world so we have to cover this stuff but yeah
i've had an ass load of the infighting it's time to uh uh try and end this misery and become friends
or whatever you can do to work together because we want the sucking and fucking that's the important part of this
show.
Yeah.
The family,
the sucking and the fucking.
Those three things.
Dylan,
one note on Natalia.
I will say her behavior.
This episode was unbecoming.
She would not let it go and try and communicate better and end this with
to me,
despite to me's efforts
that being said natalia for a couple episodes as uh the chief stew here didn't have an issue
with anybody and so this is like a different natalia and i don't know what what's causing
all of this obviously their first meeting did not go well but uh initially both of them weren't able
to let it go but it seems like to me has
now started to try and make amends with this and natalia refuses uh so with that i will give you
that natalia is uh behavior is pretty bad i wouldn't call it vile yeah but uh anyway uh but
i didn't like the episode either uh 40 knots yeah i'm gonna go ahead and call it vile you know it reminded me of um danielle post uh
carl and lindsey's marriage ceremony i know we talked about that last week but it really was
like her going around and talking to the dish boys at the restaurant about how she did not
know that this was happening um something that has added a wrinkle to this is, yes, Natalia had a much easier time.
She got along with everybody.
But to me is dealing with three things.
Demanding charter guests who have a vegan food scale.
Okay.
She's got um she's got whatever shakespearean i'm not i i don't really know the plays all that well
but whatever deceitful backstabbing um sprite in whatever play kyle is filling fulfilling that role
so she's got to deal with kyle and also she's to deal with Natalia. So there's a lot of things.
There's a lot going on.
Against Toomey.
But hopefully this whole thing gets sorted out.
You gave it two pots, right?
Forty-nots.
Forty-nots.
Okay.
So we pick up with, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I was going to say, who wants to start the show?
It sounds like it's you.
Yeah.
We pick up with quite a bit of beef.
Toomey and Natalia are not doing well.
And Toomey is talking herself up like she is about to kill somebody.
Because that's what you do when you're about to kill somebody for the first time.
If you're not a seasoned pro, you kind of have to gas yourself up a little bit.
And, you know, we were talking about it earlier at dinner, because this is what we talked about at dinner as a family you know it's there is nothing
more terrifying than a human being who has these little idiosyncratic improvements to their murder
like the golden state killer the fact that he learned how to put plates on plates on people's
backs that's like that's like oh i have this idea i'm gonna execute it you know it's like an nf you're talking about innovation
don't yes exactly um but to me it's not that i have some thoughts on this okay so the show starts
off i think at this point both uh uh they both head back to their corners after the dust up and
can i just say this don't because i experienced a very uh traumatic uh engagement
with another human with a stranger this past weekend as as i teased at the top the worst
thing is after you have one of these fights with someone and it's that five minutes after
it's one of the worst feelings i think as a human being dude one would argue being eaten by a grizzly
bear and then contemplating why did i not bring the pepper spray while he's eating your arm that is the worst feeling as a human being but this is second
yeah or like calling somebody fat and seeing them get really hurt by it
because you're like boy did i go too far yeah too far all those thoughts roll through your head
it's not pleasant and but within what's weird about this is Natalia throughout the episode
bouts in this.
What a very unpleasant feeling to be taking,
carrying on for a number of days.
She's like Godzilla.
If you hit Godzilla with a nuclear weapon, he just gets stronger.
You know what I mean?
But yeah, dude, the whole episode i was thinking about
how shitty it is to stew in in this thing that they have just constant luckily she's relegated
her to the sheet dungeon so she doesn't have to interact with her all that much but yeah you know
everybody's had this with a co-worker you're just like, I want to.
I want you to be my first kill. And hopefully I don't get better at it and eventually learn how to subdue people like the Golden State Killer.
But I want you to be my first kill.
She I guess this the thing with Kyle being involved in this whole thing is starting to come to the fore and it's it's what
we talked about last week there's no way that this guy can there's really no way that anybody
can contain this kind of three-faced back talking here's the insanity he is he he is heath ledger's
joker all he wants is for the world to burn.
I don't think there's an end game here as far as him coming on this boat.
He's just starting a fire here, putting a fire over there.
Oh, that fire is starting to go out.
Oh, let me throw some more fucking kerosene on it.
It's quite insane.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then that famous Joker line where he's he says uh all south south
african and gay he says um i have nothing to hide when pressed um so we move on to um you know we'll
get to them talking to sandy and failing to resolve this but really quickly pat what what's your take
on this max guy because we can't do this guy all season. This guy's got to get fired or swim away. It can't happen.
You know, I like a good attitude and kind of a positive attitude. And he kind of brings that
to the boat. But he doesn't feel the same way about us Americans and South Americans. He thinks
we work a little too hard, Dylan. he thinks everyone should sit down with one of those fucking fancy croissants and wearing a beret outside a
cafe and that's just not how you uh get that's not how you uh you know earn your keeper on these
boats you know i mean yeah yeah i was so i'm wearing a croissant hat i got it at the dominique
can't sell workshop um and yeah if you want to see it because it's a great hat i mean pat is it
not a great hat it's a wonderful hat uh we should probably uh i don't know buy a few while you're
there dylan and then we'll uh sell some online or something i don't know what are you doing wearing
a houston's a houston astros hat what the that's not a houston astros hat what is it just hasn't
i don't know it
just has an h on i don't even know okay it's a store it's for the last day yeah man yeah because
you know people they when they first see us on youtube they're like i don't know who's who and
yeah that's pat hickey and i'm croissantampoy. So go to another podcast on YouTube. So
Natalia is going around
and... Shit talking to me.
Shit talking to me.
And the scouser knows that
this needs to get solved because if it
does not get solved, the boat
is going to hit a fucking iceberg and
everybody aboard this vessel is going to die.
Mm-hmm.
And
given that hypothetical,
or what the scouser feels is a sure thing,
I agree it does need to get sorted out because that was a tragedy.
Oh, the Titanic?
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man. Yeah, man.
That was sad.
It was so sad.
Let me pull up some death statistics on the Titanic real quick.
I can tell you, man.
I can tell you.
Because I was obsessed with that when I was a kid.
I think it was 1,250 people.
Wow.
Yeah.
Amazing.
And not one of them was Billy Zane.
So we're leaving the dog for the first time
with these charter guests and i completely forgot that we were in the middle of a of a charter um
i don't know how maybe it's the weed i'm not sure but um we get a little tutorial on how to pour the
proper mimosa from mecca now pat you are a big mimosa boy so how do you feel about this
tutorial i believe it was uh it was a full glass of champagne dylan it lacked orange juice so that
would just be a glass of the champs there that is uh it's just some bubbler mimosa has orange juice in it. Yeah. Yeah. And it has strawberry.
Right.
Right.
Or charcoal.
That's right.
What is your ratio for a mimosa?
Oh, 50-50.
Okay.
Well, that's patently insane.
But the reason yours is 50-50 is because you're doing a long haul.
Okay?
You got a big trip ahead of you on a Sunday.
Dude, I got two bottles I got to kill.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't just kill them with 90-10 by most.
Okay?
You got to pay.
Get drunk too fast.
Okay.
So, Sandy, there's a pattern of Sandy's leadership this entire episode.
And it's really, you got this.
She Homer Simpson's grandpa, every single person that walks up,
hey, I have a question about what you'd like me to do.
And she just grabs him by the shoulder, she turns him around,
and she goes, you got this.
You got this.
Do your thing.
You do it.
You're in charge. You make the decisions. Oh, then this do your thing you do it you're in charge you make the decisions
oh then what do we need you here i don't even think she's driving the boat anymore i think that
sandy would be really good on a uh sleep app or a meditation app i do think that there is a rule
within that space that people from florida cannot voice those things
but um that's really the only thing keeping her out of that so um get a little bit of a meanwhile
meanwhile um this is luca telling us laura is making his life really easy i love this laura
girl she's quickly becoming one of my favorites she's amazing and confident industrious fun yeah
um she's going to be his lead deckhand but because sandy did not give him express
permission or direct right uh he's gonna wait on that um so breakfast is served the anchor
is dropped and we get to a pink underwear gossip sesh with kyle and natalia in the laundry dungeon yes um her and kyle chat
natalia she's complaining about to me and hinting her days are numbered and this is when kyle does
quite the hypocritical posture uh takes quite the hypocritical posture he says are you talking
shit and then he tells us he's realizing his involvement in all of this may have made things worse
this was like this would be like charles manson conceding he probably shouldn't have hung out
with young people as much as he did you know and it really underscores you know the level of
involvement uh really ruining people's lives really it would be charles manson uh having
regret that he allowed so many of his family to be a part of a clandestine testing outfit
um called mk ultra which and listen i got all the vaccines okay everybody knows i got the vaccines
okay and everybody knows that I'm kind of kidding.
Kyle,
I think may be a source of just too much yucky season.
We've heard that he's going to get fired.
I just,
that's,
that's going to be this kind of like,
I don't know,
like a wellspring of darkness, like in a,
in a Zelda game or something like that.
I'm just very, very worried about it.
So we move on.
Sandy tells Toomey that she can talk to her.
Toomey, you can talk to me.
And that is an Abbott and Costello thing waiting to happen.
But, you know, Toomey does confide in Captain Sandy.
And what does Captain Sandy say?
She grabs her by the shoulder.
She turns her right around and she says, you've got this.
Like, how does that help?
I will say she does leave leave her with some some sage advice she says
lead with kindness not authority now go get out of here and do whatever you're going to do um but
uh yeah the kindness line is is important um it becomes a bigger issue sandy will step in um which she does later on and um we'll talk about
it but she does a similar thing when she does step in so natalia continues to pull a danielity
engagement um she's talking to ann this is how like this is how addicted to spreading this tea Natalia is. She's talking to Ann about it, okay?
Ann is an ironing board.
She's not even a human being.
Why are you talking to Ann about this?
Oh, she talks to microwaves, anything that will listen, kind of.
Yeah.
That's when we get a little bit of Sea Rat history.
By the way, can't wait to get to uh to me see rat history which is among if not
the most if not like top it's top three stars it is number one it is the most insane sea rat history
i think i've ever heard but we'll get what eight-year-old ballet is important enough
okay this is the venue's not making 750 grand on this evening okay and there's no backup dancer
but it has to be you yeah no you could have I think it would have been okay if you skipped that recital. Yeah.
Okay, so.
We get some C-Rite history here, though, with here.
What?
What?
Max is, I can't say that word anymore.
Max is.
Interesting.
Yes, Max is interesting and he has add and he was told to take ritalin and through his own volition he decided to one flow over the one flow over the cuckoo's nest with them um he did
not take the pills max take the pills well we don't want to advocate anybody take pills but
you know it's your free choice, your free will.
But if you have a diagnosed problem and there is a pharmaceutical enhancement, you should take the pills.
For everyone around him, perhaps not for him.
But yeah.
Well, we live in a society, Patrick.
I mean, you have to be selfless at some point.
You know what I mean?
I understand.
I understand. society patrick i mean you have to be selfless at some point you know what i mean i understand i understand so natalia um is yeah the the the fire is spewing around the boat and the scouser
and to me despite that are doing pretty well at this point and the scouser realizes that
it's because of natalia's kind of firebrand gossip that his and Toomey's relationship is strained.
But more on that later.
We've got plenty of meanwhiles to hit here, unless you want to address anything in particular.
Are we going to get to that surprise picnic at Santa Margarita?
Yeah, yeahita yeah yeah of
course um well because there's there's five minutes of poke wave runners and i just have
written down can we get to the fucking in the sucking i don't want us to be pervs or anything
or for you to think that we're pervs.
Listen, we're
happily married, committed people
who just...
We live through serots, Dill.
We have to live vicariously through
somebody. Let's get to the fucking
sucking and the fucking... I can Postmates
poke whenever I want and I can
eat it and I can go,
oh yeah, it isn't a good idea to eat poke
because it's trash fish for $17.
You can immediately taste that it's not okay.
Yes, we get to a castle picnic.
Oh, can I give a little history on this?
I loved it.
Okay, so Santa Margarita is a place where people killed each other.
And it's also where Leonardo DiCaprio is able to finger 25-year-old models.
It's nice to see the grounds of once drowned in blood now transformed into kind of a tourist destination.
You know what I mean?
The rich can kind of buy it now, right?
People used to put swords through each other, right?
And now you can go up there and party.
By the way, I did some research.
I heard Leo tried to rent Gettysburg for a day.
Tourism Commission said, we know what you're up to, buddy.
And they would not let him go. I have been listening and watching some press come out around Kellys of the Flower Moon.
And there's this vibe with people, I think, now uh given the cultural movement that we've been going
through where there are women actors who are like adults and they're having to do press with leo
and i could just feel like a
kind of vibe you know leo he's got the act Listen, do all the coke you want. Have sex with older people.
George Clooney, he had to hang it up.
You know, there's a few of them out there, right?
You can't take this into your 50s, pal.
You're going to look like a scumbag.
I know.
You want to finger 25-year-olds at the Santa Margarita Castle, okay?
But we're going to frown upon that, okay?
Yeah, it's not cool anymore.
It's just not.
So while the women are lugging shit up the mountain, Max, is fucking off,
I cannot do this silent film actor anymore.
I just, I don't.
He's kind of fun he's in like uh um he's in a chaplain movie in every scene he's you know um and i love that laura or lara i'm not sure which one it is um
just hates him she wants to kick him in the dick she wants to kick him in the deck.
She wants to kick him in the deck.
It just adding further to the lore of her.
She's just, she's amazing.
Um, I love that Kyle gets there after they've been lugging shit up and setting shit up.
And he's like, we have to walk up that.
I'm sorry.
We have to, I got to get a South African accent down because we've got to do impressions of him.
I'm going to work. Work on that. Now I want to do impressions of him. I'm going to work on that.
Now, I want to say this.
I think, I'm not sure if we're there.
We skipped over it.
Jessica is starting to have an ass load of Nats complaining.
And we get a montage of it.
So, bravo.
Did Nat really dirty here?
Not dirty or just kind of let it play how it's being perceived on the boat.
Meanwhile, Chef Jack has a novel idea.
Hey,
one of the two,
you sit down and chat.
Yeah.
Later,
Sandy will recommend that.
But yeah,
chef Jack thought that up.
Well,
that'd be a great thing.
Do you know why?
Because it's making his life difficult.
No,
it has nothing to do with that.
Patrick,
if they do not resolve this they are going to run into a fucking iceberg and everyone will die split in fucking
half and 1250 people are going to die in the 19 teens or whatever it was 19 all right so um yes
this is when you know we, the guests go shopping.
Kyle's fat rolls are blowing in the wind.
And Jessica spills a little bit of tea here.
That Toomey has told her that Natalia's job is not getting done.
She's not okay with the quality of her work right now.
And all this is happening when Natalia is out having a little tryst with Luca and Kyle like a Bond girl.
So I understand why Toomey's a little pissed off.
is arrives back at the boat natalia in this where do you get off kind of way calls to me up to the bar to just fight with her i mean
oh i didn't realize how that came to be all right so dill can i'm gonna get can i get the breakdown
of this uh interaction between to me i guess jessica had some involvement in this all
right so uh just catch everybody up all right so i first off every all parties have have a part to
play in this in my opinion both to me and natalia have been talking shit about each other uh and
this leads to all sorts of issues nat has spent the entire day complaining about to me to me to
her lesser degree but she tells jessica that nat didn't finish the rooms. Jessica then, in a bad game of telephone, tells Nat that Toomey is quote-unquote annoyed with her. Then Toomey enters the room, or that's when Nat called her up there. And then Nat, Natalia greets her with, what now now and then we're off to the races from there
so there's some plausible deniability that Natalia claims with cleaning rooms versus
freshening them up but the argument isn't about that these two girls hate each other
how did I do this is like um this is like uh uh tigers and um I don't know, other tigers.
Yep.
They do not like each other.
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I can't say I've heard of this where two people are in a room
and they just despise each other for no, there's no real reason,
there's no history, and right out of the gate, they just despise each other for no there's no real reason there's no history and right out
of the gate they just cannot get along yeah and they're both kind of assholes to one of them
one another yeah um you know i guess what happens is there's a perceived grievance
and because of the communal hatred just on an energetic level the the reaction to it is way
over the top so the there's this kind of blending of the origin
like who really started this whole thing it there really is no chicken or an egg it's just the two
of them just hated each other from the jump like two estranged tigers um so sandy over here is the
screaming and she brings the gals up to have a little performance review slash HR intervention here.
And Natalia goes for the throat.
She says that Kyle messaged her.
Right.
Or told her about a text message that Toomey had been sending him about Natalia.
To start with that is fucking vicious.
That's like bringing a knife fight to a sanctioned boxing event
and somehow putting the knife in the boxing glove
and then starting with that kind of stab.
I mean, it's just way out of line.
Well, can I say, though, Dil, that really was kind of the beginning of this, right?
We're really
getting off on a foot with yours with who will be your superior already kind of potentially
thinking that they could fire you or already have an opinion of you um i've said this and i'm not
defending natalia i just think that she can't she can't let it go that it started that way.
And then I think she's behaved horribly and unable to just let it go and try and work it out with Toomey.
But maybe she's one of those people that can't let that initial thing just like it's stuck in her craw and she cannot let it go.
I don't want to have a house floor debate with you on this because the truth of the matter is i don't care but for the fans sake i will say i don't think it did start like that i think it started with
them because natalia and to me hated each other before kyle even got to the boat and told one
another about the text like he didn't text that to me was coming for her like he
did with to me it was just the everything is just messy but all is fair in love and sea rats um
to me laughs at some insinuation that natalia makes and sandy having gone through the leadership management circuit having gone through recovery having read
and listened to no less than 57 self-help books knows that this is just not something that can
be done from a leadership position you can't laugh like this sorry i just heard myself talking
i got distracted but it's fine it's fine i can't hear like this. Sorry, I just heard myself talking. I got distracted, but it's fine.
It's fine.
I can't hear myself talk anymore.
Unfortunately, this lapse, this error kind of overshadows any conversation that we would have had.
And nothing gets solved.
Sandy just says, let me put my hands on your shoulders.
And she turns to me around and she says, you got this.
And some assistance in navigating this diplomacy would have been really, really helpful here,
Sand.
But that's not what-
I wonder if Sandy, as you mentioned, she's on this, what do you call it?
Life advice tour or whatever the hell she's on.
I wonder if this week she read a book that said hands off is the way to go.
And then she just turns on a dime, you know, new management style,
just like that.
Well, I don't do anything.
It was a book about integrating Buddhism into the workplace.
And it's just kind of an even keelness you have to have with your staff
and uh you have to trust that the cup is going to be filled or i don't i don't know what buddhists
talk about um let's get to kyle um okay matt once again goes to her corner and to continue to talk
smack in cut i just i look i understand why this was
probably maddening to you but while she's doing that kyle finds to me to continue being a double
agent yeah and he refers to nat natalia as a trapped rat that will chew her way out of there
this is supposed to be natalia's friend i want to remind little finger wannabe here
uh you clean toilets and fucking serve food it's not game of thrones you idiot
it's so insane to like listen you can talk poorly about people even people that you love you can
tell people you know i don't think they're doing this right.
But to pull this Machiavellian trapeze act and call someone a fucking rat.
I mean, that you don't call people rats.
That's just you don't fucking do that.
It's not right.
So, Kyle, you vicious bitch. To me goes to ask natalia to talk and
you know this is again where i don't know why natalia is not being brought to heel
she's the third stew i don't know why she has so much power. Who cares that she has 70,000 Instagram followers or whatever it is.
She did not accept our invite to be a collaborator on our post.
So it doesn't even matter.
Those followers don't matter.
Right.
So why the fuck does Natalia get to say, i'm not talking to you right now and now i know there has
to be times when you know you can't just force your employees to do things but um this is uh
this is maritime law this there should be a hierarchy here and to me should be able to tell
natalia sit the fuck down we're having a conversation
right now and it turns out later in the episode spoiler alert a night of rest did not really help
things so um we prep for dinner uh we're gonna do uh jambalaya we're gonna do jerk everything
um and we're gonna need to be careful because we've got a vegan here who wants,
um, you know, West Indies food and she wants it without any meat, which is, listen, that's
a tough putt.
That's a tough putt.
Um, but you know, I guess there are other dishes, you know, the, the uh i don't know a lot about uh the cuisine down there and
just because of the um tricky history that this country has with that part of the world i'm gonna
go ahead and move on i'm gonna move on all right well let's go over to max bringing up his work
schedule and his break schedule and uh this really gets under
lara's skin yeah um you know because she just wants to work and this guy's already gotten
he's he's getting calls in with the labor board union you know he needs four 10 minute breaks a
day a cigarette break a bank day and uh for uh for holidays yeah and he's not allowed to touch certain types of ropes.
He can touch a lot of the ropes.
Don't act unreasonable.
He can touch a lot of the ropes,
but there are just certain ones that he can't.
But no, this is a pretty big flare-up,
and I feel like many people on this show
are not long for this show.
I don't see a world where Max makes it through this season.
I just don't.
Are you with me on that?
I think he's going to get shitcanned.
I am, but there's so many more unlikable people that could be shitcanned before him.
So we shall see.
But yes, he is definitely the weakest link in the uh the exterior
department yeah um and i'm not going to do that american thing where we dunk on the french but
they are lazy pieces of shit um okay he doesn't mean that i don't mean that i want to go to paris
very very badly and a lot of friends um though
i've been to nice and they do not open things very often because they're lazy pieces of fucking
i'm absolutely kidding all right so um we now get to what is the craziest sea rat history in the
history of this show um we have uh or top three, I think we said.
Usually, C-Rat histories are throwaways.
We'll get to one later on with Anne,
who says that she got bullied in high school.
Anne, why?
Never mind.
Breakdown Toomey's Sea Rat history.
Oh, you're going to.
Oh, boy.
Thanks for giving me this duty.
I can take it if you want.
I could do this very colorfully if you'd like me to.
Oh, please do take it.
Okay.
So Toomey was, I believe, eight.
She was getting ready for a ballet performance. And again, she was eight. She was getting ready for a ballet performance.
And again, she was eight.
Her father was gunned down.
And her mother told her she's eight.
Right before she was about to go on stage as an eight-year-old ballerina,
your father was just gunned down.
Now, Toomey, being the Katy Perry professional that she is.
Oh, yes.
Well put.
Was able to put that bit of bummer news in her back pocket and go out there and deliver a performance.
Now, every once in a while, she did break and she had to go backstage and cry.
But she wiped those tears away.
She went out and she delivered that performance to 12 or 13 people and afterwards dealt with the fact that her father had been gunned down.
And maybe even worse, that her mother had told her that right before she
went on stage jesus fucking christ what was that story oh my god uh yeah that yeah really really
sad of course really really sad um but but that is made to me the tough manager that she is but not though
knock on wood and kiss the people you love because tomorrow is never guaranteed you could
have a horrific mother that toys with your fucking mental health as an eight-year-old i mean things can be out there yeah i think she
should have said out let's go home uh and i said well i want to do my ballet performance so well
let's let's go get some ice cream let's talk but that's just me um yeah but that's just me
that's just you and you are listen you're not going to judge anybody's parenting leave that to me i don't have children okay so um ann talks to to me apologizes for stirring shit up then we
get to the sea rat history where she was bullied that is just most and shit ever from ann i mean
who was not bullied in school no totally and i also this is her second
sea rat history touching upon that didn't she mention that in her first sea rat history segment
where she's a cheerleader it's like okay although i will say she also uses that as uh to i think she
was saying that natalia was a mean girl um as shared that story. This was sneakiness
from Anne. I think that she had no
idea of the
maximizing effect of this maneuver
because she's Anne, which
is beautiful because we don't need a bunch of
Kyles. We need
Anne's. Although
she is dipping her toes in the talking
shit backstabbing waters
here, Dylan. I think right after this conversation, she goes to speak to Kyle about Nat being a shitster, thus her being a shitster.
Right.
Everyone's losing their goddamn minds on this yacht.
This is like one of those aluminum drums with all the ice and the trulies in it, but it's filled with shit.
And everyone's stirring it.
That's what the season is
it's crazy uh kyle hilariously so he's like a way
i don't want to compare two gay men like this but i don't think it's it's un-pc enough to where
people are going to get really pissed off but so i'll go ahead and
do it he's just like a way worse version of frazier you know they have the the the gay excellence and
service they're funny but frazier is trying to work kyle is trying to kill people emotionally
um i think frazier is a nice guy who actually doesn't like to engage
in this really immature
behavior.
I think Frazier
is on a way different level
than Kyle.
I think Frazier has a game plan
and goals.
Maybe every once in a while
he doesn't join in the
team building exercise of volleyball
yeah but uh but he doesn't engage in what kyle's doing here and uh i'd love to get kyle on the uh
on the blower and i'd like to ask what the hell were you thinking yeah well um i i say they're
similar because they um they have these the same witticisms like kyle is just not the same i'm doing a derivative and
reductive thing where i'm comparing two gay men and for that i apologize but kyle has this thing
where he's like if you don't want to die if you don't want to die don't fucking cross her and you
know that's one of those you know that's that's where um exaggeration and hyperbole can be used like a rapier in the world of comedy.
And Kyle's doing it.
I'm telling you, he thinks he signed up to be on Game of Thrones, and he forgot that he just cleans bowls of shit all day.
Blow your roll, buddy.
All right, let's get to the nighttime.
Chloe roll buddy Alright let's get to the night time
Well I was going to say Sandy chats with Nat
Encourages her to have
A quote unquote healthy conversation
I want to say I feel bad
For Sandy this season because
You know
She's supposed to be driving the boat
And now she's constantly being
Forced as a role as a guidance
Counselor
It's kind of odd
I forget being forced as a role as a guidance counselor it's kind of odd um i forget what the exterior
they were all eating lunch and i think max was there and i think they said that they kicked the
dick today yeah yeah uh i think that that's what they said by the way i'll take a kick to the dick
uh anytime it's the testicles that are the high value target yeah you uh kick those
fuckers they're like the centrifuge and the death star um you'll you fucking hit them at a right
angle the dude will fucking blow up very painful and we've talked about uh kind of uh failures in
evolution and or if you're a sane person um um intelligent design but
why
why the testicles
are as vulnerable as they are
it just makes no god damn
sense to me
so we get to dinner
it is going to be jerk chicken jambalaya
and there is going to be
a separate jambalaya for a
jua I believe is her name
leave right fuck alone if i didn't say that right oh my god um she has a vegan scale
um that they that is not hers to be fair they they throw up the chiron um but on this evening it's a it's a two out of ten it is not good she is not happy
at all and requests seasoned fried tofu and french fries now i thought that mecca did a really really
good job in letting to me know that um aju was not happy. She was like, listen, you know that I care about my guests.
I want them to be happy.
She doesn't like her food.
That's fine.
But then we go 50 yards out of the end zone.
We're not even on the field anymore.
When she calls up the chef to interrogate him and break down this cat's cradle of communication
between the chief stew and the chef about why the the tofu was pan seared instead of deep fried and
breaded um what in the world is this and also like what it's just like this thing where they're like
you know us as powerful black women when we put our foot down boss shit no that's that this is
not boss shit there are plenty black women that put their feet down and they do do boss shit
this is just it's jigsaw killer shit it's not good at all what the well to me feels because
i guess uh chef jacket said that there the communication breakdown was uh was toomy's
fault and then toomy feels that uh once again she's uh she's getting up i guess uh thrown under the bus yeah by every yeah poor to me
stuck between a rock and madness yeah madness madness i was gonna say rocking an evil gay but
um it's madness it's good because it's much more than than just kyle um so natalia and Toomey failed to talk once again. And
it's really Natalia
failing to talk. Toomey's open to it.
But we get to the next day
and Max
is doing push-ups, obviously, because
he's got to get the energy out. And
the guests have
90 minutes left in
paradise. Now, the
girls are really, the girls above deck are not doing well with max
at this point this is going to come to a head at some point um and at the end of this episode
the entire crew implodes when they're docking the boat hayley tells uh matt to shut the fuck up
essentially and but the real,
you know,
the real guts of the end of the episode is this interaction between Natalia
and to me,
um,
Pat,
you want to break this down for the gang?
Yeah,
to me.
Well,
I thought to me,
his approach here was really good.
Um,
she kind of just said,
look,
I can relate to you.
We can relate to each other.
Perhaps we're kind of similar people.
That's a good way to kind of get people to let you know kind of let down their guard a little bit but
natalia ain't having any of it and immediately gets defensive and begins telling to me how
she should have behaved upon entering the boat which is never a good idea because you can't
you can't redo things um and then i believe natalia agrees that uh she'll never be
friends with to me but yeah she'll do whatever she asks her to do something along those lines
which is that's not going to work out yeah thank you natalia for making this uh such a great work
environment really you're doing such a good job.
Hopefully this gets better in the coming weeks. We've got a TBC card, as we usually get when there is extended, tired drama.
Because what would happen if we were afforded a glimpse into next week?
The narrative of the show would be ruined.
It would be absolutely ruined.
And this really gets my cheese because I love a next week on so much.
I love a next week on so much.
And the fact that they TBCS as often as they do,
next week on so much and the fact that they tbcs as often as they do i really think it's just bravo not feeling like editing uh next week on i think it's ridiculous um but anyways that's it for us
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Yeah, just remember to, we'll be doing Winterhouse next week. So share that. If you're not a fan of
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Yeah. Give it a shot. All right. We'll see you lovely people next week. I'm Dylan saying goodbye.
Pat, say goodbye. Later dudes. Thank you.